The Modern Guitar Discussion w/ Tosin Abasi, Tim Henson & Misha Mansoor

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  • Опубліковано 3 тра 2024
  • In this episode I have a discussion with my good friends Misha Mansoor (Periphery), Tosin Abasi (Animals As Leaders), and Tim Henson (Polyphia) about many different topics related to Guitar, Recording, Music Theory, Influences, and much more!
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    Time Stamps:
    0:00 Intro
    0:17 Misha And The Left Lane
    0:47 Selling Out And The Romanticization of The Starving Artist
    4:59 Generational Gaps, Metallica, and Leaks
    11:11 Evolution of Home Recording, Music Creation, And Accessibility
    18:15 Writing Songs, Music School, And The Fear of Music Theory
    23:59 Originality, Developing Style, And Influence
    31:39 People Learn Faster Today And Setting The Bar
    36:13 How Musical "Perfection" Has Affected Musicians Feel
    39:28 Jam

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  • @dinomeneghin2987
    @dinomeneghin2987 2 роки тому +4881

    The fact that this video wasn't titled "The League of Extraordinary Djentlemen" is a loss for all humanity.

    • @TheLebTM
      @TheLebTM 2 роки тому +68

      A few djent bands including periphery already did a tour under that name around 2011 or 2012 I think

    • @sillykanji
      @sillykanji 2 роки тому +16

      Legit laughed out loud.

    • @FatesxofxthexDead
      @FatesxofxthexDead 2 роки тому +17

      @@maximummatt73 you should get your PMS checked out

    • @FatesxofxthexDead
      @FatesxofxthexDead 2 роки тому +4

      @@maximummatt73 cool old meme, bro

    • @FatesxofxthexDead
      @FatesxofxthexDead 2 роки тому +4

      @@maximummatt73 not remotely lmao

  • @AbasiConcepts
    @AbasiConcepts 2 роки тому +3536

    This was such a good hang☺️🤘🏿

    • @Jayraymay13
      @Jayraymay13 2 роки тому +45

      Hello sir, Thank you for your music!!! You are one of the reasons I started playing guitar again!!!

    • @alexandrejoyal1284
      @alexandrejoyal1284 2 роки тому +35

      We need more deep talks like this with cool cats (such as yourself) about music, philosophy and creativity in general!

    • @VegasLoungeAct
      @VegasLoungeAct 2 роки тому +12

      Awesome to see all of you in one room talking guitar! 🤘

    • @ph0kused
      @ph0kused 2 роки тому +15

      Hey tosin you inspired me to make the jump into extended range guitars. Hope youre doing well in these crazy times, pumped for your new content!

    • @JSaltyfabricator
      @JSaltyfabricator 2 роки тому +4

      Mad love to you Tosin!! INAMORATA🤙

  • @seventhflatfive
    @seventhflatfive 2 роки тому +308

    "Boomer bends" is at 24:48. Just in case you were searching for it as well, fellow youtube traveller.

    • @tenparsecs914
      @tenparsecs914 2 роки тому +4

      Much appreciated

    • @floressequoia1
      @floressequoia1 2 роки тому +5

      I read the guitar world article and it sounds like a number of people really came out of the woodwork to share their criticisms.
      Either way, really doesn't matter to me.

    • @Ramkatral
      @Ramkatral 2 роки тому

      You the hero

    • @aleksakocijasevic6613
      @aleksakocijasevic6613 Рік тому +1

      Greetings, friend. You know what I seek. Farewell!

    • @indrawoody4382
      @indrawoody4382 Рік тому +1

      Thank you man, God bless you..

  • @eswing2153
    @eswing2153 2 роки тому +752

    Tim is practicing guitar out of nervous energy. Wonderful.

    • @cecilkeebler4254
      @cecilkeebler4254 Рік тому +18

      Possibly. Kind of distracting actually.

    • @polikato4813
      @polikato4813 Рік тому +132

      I've watched multiple videos of tim being interviewed/hanging out irl, i noticed that if he's holding a guitar he's always fiddling despite being in. He's one of those 24/7 guitar fiddlers

    • @BeforeThisNovember
      @BeforeThisNovember Рік тому +52

      @@polikato4813 that’s no coincidence that he’s one of the best young players in the world

    • @T4llJak3
      @T4llJak3 Рік тому +10

      hes just stoned

    • @doobrikter2969
      @doobrikter2969 Рік тому +30

      @@T4llJak3 so was jesus

  • @Aaronek5
    @Aaronek5 2 роки тому +3181

    Let's all appreciate that we have Beato, Abasi, Hensen, and Mansoor along with their opinions in the palm of our hands for free.........

    • @RickBeato
      @RickBeato  2 роки тому +600

      Thank you 🙏🏻

    • @briankormos9949
      @briankormos9949 2 роки тому +97

      No, thank you!

    • @wilhelm4481
      @wilhelm4481 2 роки тому +6

      Damn your sentence reminds me of a song I listend times ago.
      King Stuff - Circuts in the Sand
      Give it a try, it’s a pretty cool song

    • @TheLegenDacster
      @TheLegenDacster 2 роки тому +1

      @@wilhelm4481 King Tuff - Circuits in the sand.

    • @JedNadin
      @JedNadin 2 роки тому +10

      Buy that Beato Book, gang.

  • @SomeBlackGuy
    @SomeBlackGuy 2 роки тому +3208

    So much talent in one room shouldn’t be possible to contain

    • @MaddesG1
      @MaddesG1 2 роки тому +32

      Tim Henson is a Noodler.

    • @danielc9606
      @danielc9606 2 роки тому +94

      @@MaddesG1 I would do anything to eat his noodles

    • @MaddesG1
      @MaddesG1 2 роки тому +5

      @@danielc9606 hmm would you...

    • @siryeetsleyiii872
      @siryeetsleyiii872 2 роки тому +6

      You should have seen Band Aid in 86.... oh boy

    • @GamePlayMetal
      @GamePlayMetal 2 роки тому +1

      Oh hey

  • @MonarchsOfBrotherhood
    @MonarchsOfBrotherhood 2 роки тому +580

    I love how Tim breaks the fourth wall by looking into the camera. Makes me feel included in the conversation.

    • @ossiehalvorson7702
      @ossiehalvorson7702 2 роки тому +40

      Makes me uncomfortable lmao.
      I personally enjoy being the invisible observer in a group conversation though.

    • @NIVO95
      @NIVO95 Рік тому +1

      So true

    • @AmarothEng
      @AmarothEng Рік тому +9

      He seems to be doing that consistently in videos in general. Probably on purpose.

    • @LilithianShades
      @LilithianShades Рік тому +3

      You can clearly tell he likes the camera.

  • @bored4428
    @bored4428 2 роки тому +179

    Dude, I fucking love Misha. He is so down to earth. "I hate jamming. I can't improvise and I can't improvise hanging with you guys" Lmao, this guy is the best.

  • @ChandraKanth7
    @ChandraKanth7 2 роки тому +1394

    Rick is like a cool uncle that everyone wants to hang out with!

    • @himmy4251
      @himmy4251 2 роки тому +14

      haha exactly he's awesome

    • @tauronval1404
      @tauronval1404 2 роки тому +2

      Maestro….👌🏻

    • @flakesinyershoe8137
      @flakesinyershoe8137 2 роки тому +6

      For sure. I had an uncle who was in the music industry in Seattle for like a half century, a person never knew if someone like the heart sisters or Steve Miller was in the room with him at any given moment, I kind of wish he would have recorded some of his stories.

    • @sauravsarmah8005
      @sauravsarmah8005 2 роки тому +4

      Sensei

    • @TheGuitarman1968
      @TheGuitarman1968 2 роки тому +5

      You must be young. More like an older brother or cousin for me, but I get what you are saying.🎸👍

  • @zakm0n
    @zakm0n 2 роки тому +488

    "The St. Anger snare, I love it!"
    Misha's reaction was GOLD.

    • @yazdan7774
      @yazdan7774 2 роки тому +15

      wHaT?

    • @MerrickGuitar
      @MerrickGuitar 2 роки тому +19

      Truthfully I love the St.Anger snare lol

    • @Rxbandit421
      @Rxbandit421 2 роки тому +8

      Merrick no...no you don’t...no one does... jk u do u

    • @Nilsb-ue5qh
      @Nilsb-ue5qh 2 роки тому +1

      I didnt notice because i was too busy flipping out myself

    • @Materdaddy
      @Materdaddy 2 роки тому +2

      That's an album I love for the meaning and overall song writing. The sound isn't good.
      Shoot me again, I ain't dead yet.

  • @BurstingVeins1
    @BurstingVeins1 2 роки тому +623

    I love Misha's take, "I don't think I'm a good musician". It's not up to the player to decide if they're a good musician or songwriter, that's up to the listener. The musician is just doing what they enjoy doing.

    • @slavesforging5361
      @slavesforging5361 2 роки тому +17

      hopefully. nothing worse than a musician doing what they think others think is cool.

    • @Noone-ew2wk
      @Noone-ew2wk 2 роки тому +2

      @@slavesforging5361 sounds kinda specific

    • @keithpetersen9196
      @keithpetersen9196 Рік тому +15

      That's a good take. I can't stand it when I tell people I play music and the first thing they ask is "are you good"?

    • @iceWaterProductions1
      @iceWaterProductions1 Рік тому

      Modern Guitar?? I respect and love all this channel is about, but I just don’t know.

    • @austinheyman
      @austinheyman Рік тому +2

      But he literally has minimal theory knowledge. He’s extremely talented and a natural.

  • @punked75
    @punked75 2 роки тому +237

    Around 21 minutes, Tosin correcting his joke under his breath saying "major third" is the most musically nerdy thing, and I love it 🤣

  • @rubenalb
    @rubenalb 2 роки тому +623

    He shall now be called "Rick Fury", cause that guy has brought together the Avengers of prog!

    • @jackbenson8228
      @jackbenson8228 2 роки тому +1

      you obvs dont know what prog is lol

    • @rubenalb
      @rubenalb 2 роки тому +72

      @@jackbenson8228 Well excuuuuuse me princess, what should I call it then?

    • @yodathehutt1557
      @yodathehutt1557 2 роки тому +1

      😂👍

    • @yodathehutt1557
      @yodathehutt1557 2 роки тому +18

      @@jackbenson8228 shut up jack

    • @RogerBarraud
      @RogerBarraud 2 роки тому

      Captain Amearica... :-)

  • @TheDSasterX
    @TheDSasterX 2 роки тому +537

    It is *SO* liberating to hear these virtuosos humble themselves. Knowing that only Tosin has ~some sort of idea~ of what he's doing after the fact, that Misha is terrified to jam because he can't improvise, and that even Tim's popularity was preceded by his originality stemming from not fitting in is really comforting. It's also crazy that Rick started producing at 37 and got his chops up and got through the industry so fast at that age that he can just call up these 3 and do a chat!

    • @codymarkley8372
      @codymarkley8372 2 роки тому +13

      Interestingly tosin for the longest time felt like he couldn't competently improvise over the blues.

    • @krisd-c1372
      @krisd-c1372 2 роки тому +13

      So fucking motivating if you ask me.

    • @user-oy7gz5bf2h
      @user-oy7gz5bf2h 2 роки тому +6

      @@codymarkley8372 He's been going so far for so long in his own direction. Playing the blues well is really something else.

    • @thehoodedvagabum7375
      @thehoodedvagabum7375 2 роки тому

      If you think Tim is a virtuoso you should listen to more guitarists. Specially jazz ones. He´s very creative, a lot. But when it comes to improvise even the most simple thing, he just can´t.

    • @user-oy7gz5bf2h
      @user-oy7gz5bf2h 2 роки тому +11

      @@thehoodedvagabum7375 Improvisation isn't a prerequisite for the term. Lot's of great musicians don't improvise. People usually refer to technical ability. Which is what I found in the definition after a quick search.

  • @slavesforging5361
    @slavesforging5361 2 роки тому +40

    I agree with Tim. i make music because i want to listen to something that doesn't exist. Always been like that. There's music going in my brain always and sometimes i want to hear what it would sound like in real life.

  • @danielwareking
    @danielwareking 2 роки тому +136

    Tosin is seriously just the nicest, most humble, down to earth guy and he's a fucking guitar god. I just love that about him.

    • @robertonome2448
      @robertonome2448 Рік тому +9

      true that. him being an absolute beast on guitar just feels like the smallest detail to his personality

  • @sauerkrautoneverything7807
    @sauerkrautoneverything7807 2 роки тому +646

    If Tosin was holding his guitar, Misha wouldn't be in the camera's frame.

    • @ClassicShotMK3
      @ClassicShotMK3 2 роки тому +1

      Too true

    • @Gary_W
      @Gary_W 2 роки тому +3

      either Misha or Rick 😂

    • @ahsnsnszazushhsus2487
      @ahsnsnszazushhsus2487 2 роки тому +5

      Not doubt that dude is insane..8stings 9 strings..and not like a 12 with drones but a 6. 🙊

    • @antonlasy7501
      @antonlasy7501 2 роки тому

      hahah cracked me up hard

    • @remmile
      @remmile 2 роки тому +2

      haha just pause at 6:26 he looks like he is holding his air guitar upwards so i think it would have been cool lol

  • @RichardBatemanMusic
    @RichardBatemanMusic 2 роки тому +356

    Man those three guys must be so hyped to meet Rick beato

    • @RickBeato
      @RickBeato  2 роки тому +126

      Haha!! I’m going to tell them that :)

    • @denissmith9772
      @denissmith9772 2 роки тому +2

      Give Band-Maid some love!

    • @cygnus-x
      @cygnus-x 2 роки тому

      @@denissmith9772 lol

    • @steven5054
      @steven5054 2 роки тому

      You fanboys make him out like he is Bob Rock and Steve Lukather put together... geez.

    • @mitchweiner
      @mitchweiner 2 роки тому +4

      @@steven5054 He’s not?

  • @Jamie_Wilson
    @Jamie_Wilson 2 роки тому +56

    It's great the level of respect these guys have for each other. Next to those 3, you wouldn't put Rick in the same class guitar-wise, yet on a Jazz level, a theory level he's head and shoulders above them and they know it. When Rick talks, every one of them listens intently with 100% attention on his words. Love the respect they show one another!

    • @asant90
      @asant90 2 роки тому +1

      Of course

  • @pierrebernard7665
    @pierrebernard7665 Рік тому +77

    25:20 "Originality is a byproduct". Wow...this hit me hard. Also, I just realized how much time I wasted obsessing about music theory instead of just playing. This is one the great advantages of modern media, it has plenty of bad sides but it also allows podcasts like these to spread the wisdom.
    Thank you :)

  • @AverageArdvark
    @AverageArdvark 2 роки тому +644

    I think Tim was just writing the next polyphia album on that guitar he's holding while everyone else talked.

    • @renatofonte
      @renatofonte 2 роки тому +26

      Hahaha i thought the same. The Kids is thinking on the next track

    • @thomascorneliomusic
      @thomascorneliomusic 2 роки тому +50

      I find this so rude tbh haha. People are having a convo just cool it for one second dude!

    • @jarodmhenderson
      @jarodmhenderson 2 роки тому +134

      @@thomascorneliomusic I've seen another video where he explains that he does that to help with his anxiety and help him think and focus. It's almost like a safety blanket. he did the same thing in his video with the DragonForce guy (I'm bad with names, don't flame me)

    • @matthewbehr5725
      @matthewbehr5725 2 роки тому +6

      Nah he was playing riffs from 'So Strange'

    • @athmaid
      @athmaid 2 роки тому +65

      @@thomascorneliomusic yeah it's seems a bit rude but if you read his body language he is pretty fidgety and as others have said anxious. And the others obviously don't mind so who cares

  • @champiforest
    @champiforest 2 роки тому +319

    3:00 "I'm still starving, please buy my products" Tosin killed me xD

    • @devmanify
      @devmanify 2 роки тому +3

      Whipping a Lambo I'd be starving too bruh. Can you imagine how much the insurance is fuck.

    • @raymgriff
      @raymgriff 2 роки тому +8

      @ghost mall he's definitely the most articulated. I think he makes the most interesting observations. Tim surprised me with how deep some of his comments were. Misha has a lot of great points but there was a rate of input from him that the others couldn't keep up with. Overall an incredibly interesting interview and shows a range from these artists that I wasn't aware of.

    • @m1kr0kosmos
      @m1kr0kosmos 2 роки тому

      Hahaha

    • @s.l.averythethird5378
      @s.l.averythethird5378 2 роки тому +4

      Right. As soon as Misha said it tosin was like yo Misha chill. Buy my guitars.

  • @dougcronkhite2113
    @dougcronkhite2113 Рік тому +31

    I would pay money to hear these guys talk to each other once a month. Just love this entire discussion.

  • @erikrummel6277
    @erikrummel6277 2 роки тому +64

    I gotta admit…… My expectations of this conversation were way low compared to what I got from it. I thought this was gonna be a whole bunch of heady mumbo jumbo, but this was a cool hang with a bunch of really cool dudes that just so happen to be top tier musicians.
    You guys should consider doing this more often. Pick a few topics to riff on and just capture the magic.
    Love all of you guys already, but this video leveled up the respect and admiration to another level.
    Thank you for doing this Rick

  • @GregNoblin
    @GregNoblin 2 роки тому +260

    What Tosin was getting at is you can teach and learn technique, skill, fundamentals, and approaches. But you cannot really teach creativity and vision. You can kind of lead someone in the direction of vision and creativity, but the rest is for them to discover. Not being locked into a predefined rulebook of process, yet having the skill to master a process allows for the development of a unique process that can lead to a unique vision.

    • @chrisbarnes22
      @chrisbarnes22 2 роки тому +20

      Yep. You can read the dictionary front to back and understand the meaning and context of every word, but it doesn't mean you could write a compelling or interesting story.

    • @Veaseify
      @Veaseify 2 роки тому +4

      Absolutely, I played in bands with guys who could play Vai/Satriani solos note for note but got lost after 2 minutes jamming over a 12 bar...

  • @tecnica-de-voz
    @tecnica-de-voz 2 роки тому +561

    31:39 I think this phenomena is called the 4 minute mile. In 1954 an athlete by the name Roger Bannister intended to run a mile in less than 4 minutes. He was told by his doctor not to try to do it otherwise his heart would literally explode. Ever since he broke that record it has been broken by over 1,400 athletes. When humans see other humans pushing the limits beyond and beyond it empowers them to see possibility and therefore like you guys are saying rise the bar higher and higher.

    • @davidjairala69
      @davidjairala69 2 роки тому +12

      Maybe his doctor was just an idiot?

    • @mmklassen
      @mmklassen 2 роки тому +14

      Exactly. And now a sub 2 hour marathon. Amazing. Raising the bar produces results previously thought impossible.

    • @jackjurphy5020
      @jackjurphy5020 2 роки тому +15

      In 1954 they knew nothing about diet and exercise compared to today.

    • @seanmatthewking
      @seanmatthewking 2 роки тому +2

      That would be a pretty clunky name for a phenomenon, even if breaking the 4 minute mile was a prominent example of the phenomenon.

    • @cheekbone4554
      @cheekbone4554 2 роки тому +2

      Check our "Morphic Resonance Theory'

  • @WforWrath
    @WforWrath Рік тому +94

    "i learned protools on my own, at 37 years old" - rick beato giving us 30 year olds hope

  • @TacoCrisma
    @TacoCrisma 2 роки тому +111

    Being in the age range of Tosin and Misha, I totally understand the "getting old" bit. Especially discussing influential music with younger guys. ESPECIALLY the downloading bit hahaha. Oh the Kazaa days. I also enjoyed how Rick and Tosin kept pulling Tim into the conversation - hes clearly very introverted but had a lot to offer when directly engaged. Good stuff.

    • @thebirdsareback
      @thebirdsareback Рік тому +6

      My Limewire and Frostwire feel left out lmfao and Bear Share wow....wow

  • @unknown_character_music
    @unknown_character_music 2 роки тому +387

    I honestly wish this could’ve been 3 hours long, such a interesting discussion.

    • @breakingtherelapse
      @breakingtherelapse 2 роки тому +6

      Same, I can listen to these guys talk all day.

    • @johnbrady1211
      @johnbrady1211 2 роки тому +7

      I think Hendrix could have summed it up in about thirty seconds.
      “I don’t know man, I just plug my guitar in and it comes out of my fingers, you dig? I don’t really think about it that deep, man”.

    • @drdre4397
      @drdre4397 2 роки тому +10

      @@johnbrady1211 Way to completely misuse an irrelevant Hendrix quote.

    • @broank5848
      @broank5848 2 роки тому +2

      I have a hard time watching a video over 5 min on UA-cam but I watched all of this as soon as I saw it.

    • @vonbeaver99
      @vonbeaver99 2 роки тому

      Misha is trying so hard to be hey I’m goof too guys

  • @quincylarsonmusic
    @quincylarsonmusic 2 роки тому +226

    "I just want to hear all the things I like in one thing." Tim so casually and so totally nails why I enjoy making music.

    • @dan_ward
      @dan_ward 2 роки тому +14

      It's quite affirming, as somebody who likes a lot of different music and thinking "man, this would be ridiculous to all combine together" but realising that judgement is perceived as coming from others, not myself. I am concerned others won't like what I make, because music makes me feel so many things, and I'd like to share that with others. But I'm also not in control of how other's feel. So I may as well do what I really want to do and enjoy the journey and result, even if I'm the only one.

    • @ixLunacy
      @ixLunacy 2 роки тому

      @@dan_ward well said

    • @JamesAngelo
      @JamesAngelo 2 роки тому +5

      Thank you for creating Freecodecamp! 🙏🏾

    • @alexweb9974
      @alexweb9974 2 роки тому +3

      Thank you for helping me change career and turn my life around. I will be forever grateful for what you do for the programming community. Cool to see you here too.

    • @oddfellowfloyd
      @oddfellowfloyd 2 роки тому +3

      @@dan_ward
      I had the great fortune of meeting Steve Vai, before his concert in NY, for the Passion & Warfare anniversary tour 5 years ago. He gave me a hug, and told me, "Play what you love."--those four, sincere words encouraged me more than I'll ever know. I happily tell my guitar students that all the time, and after reading your thoughtful post, I felt like I wanted to share them with you. Music should be encouraging, and cyclical--learn from those who know more than you, share what you learn with others, and just enjoy it. :)

  • @loudrumsforyou
    @loudrumsforyou 2 роки тому +116

    Tosin seems like the most chill person to hangout with, hes just happy to be there

  • @dragonfx310
    @dragonfx310 2 роки тому +28

    Shout-out to Misha for the Carpenter Brut shirt and Tim for never ceasing to play his guitar during the whole talk.

    • @AG-ic7hl
      @AG-ic7hl 2 роки тому

      Yeah i saw carpenter brut and clicked haha

  • @tanner3673
    @tanner3673 2 роки тому +275

    If Misha hasn't started a podcast yet he should, I could listen to him talk about anything for hours

    • @alandoughty1
      @alandoughty1 2 роки тому +7

      Have you heard him when he was on Herman Li's Twitch channel? The guy speaks a LOT of sense about a LOT of things.

    • @flynnedwards
      @flynnedwards 2 роки тому +12

      Check out his twitch stream! I'd actually like to see one with both Tosin and Misha, I feel like they oppose each other's statements in a way that offers two sides to an argument but still interact well nonetheless

    • @Waterinmenbenen
      @Waterinmenbenen 2 роки тому

      That dude has wisdom in spades.

    • @therealfolkblues2526
      @therealfolkblues2526 2 роки тому

      If you don't mind the subject matter, he's done at least two episodes of a podcast called the smoking tire. It's mostly about cars, with a little bit of guitars and wrist watches.

    • @danherrick2310
      @danherrick2310 2 роки тому +2

      well thats good cause he talked about 60% of this lol

  • @andrewwhite1335
    @andrewwhite1335 2 роки тому +53

    Misha: You have a really strong ear.
    Rick: Huh?
    Such a really cool and relaxed conversation with a good Dad Joke thrown in to keep it down to earth.

  • @BartholomewHunt87
    @BartholomewHunt87 2 роки тому

    I really enjoyed listening to this discussion. Thank you for getting the guys together and hosting this!

  • @Piston1776
    @Piston1776 2 роки тому

    Thank you for making this interview happen it was very inspiring to me! It was really nice to just listen and hear all the perspectives!

  • @SuperXD44
    @SuperXD44 2 роки тому +64

    28:26 Its fun that Tim says that where Tosin has been talking about Porsche. Because the founder of Porsche was motivated to build cars because he couldnt found the one he liked. "If i cant find the car I want, I'll build it myself - Ferdinand Porsche
    Pretty ironic lmao

  • @jcwdesigns82
    @jcwdesigns82 2 роки тому +251

    Rick…hearing you say you started mixing at 37 just made me almost cry. I’ve been playing with daws for years, but really started learning when I was in my early 30s. Makes me feel like I’m not behind. ❤️❤️

    • @JazerMedia
      @JazerMedia 2 роки тому +12

      I'm 28 and thought I was way behind too. Don't ever believe you're late to the party!

    • @codybell371
      @codybell371 2 роки тому +4

      @ghost mall here’s what I meant right here: it’s never too late to start.
      @Josh Williams, you’re not alone in feeling the way you do, man! Keep doing what you do👍🏻👍🏻

    • @heyborttheeditor1608
      @heyborttheeditor1608 2 роки тому +4

      @@JazerMedia 26 and same, its never to late to have a good time LOL

    • @vlogoftea
      @vlogoftea 2 роки тому +6

      It's never too late to pick up something new or to acquire new skills. The way I see it, life is just one big journey of learning new things every day, whether that's on a personal or emotional level, obtaining more knowledge, or honing new skills. As they say, follow your bliss.

    • @Sochi_Mochi
      @Sochi_Mochi 2 роки тому +10

      45 and just picked up the drums…haven’t looked back 👀 ✌🏻🥁

  • @ShrikantSreenivasan
    @ShrikantSreenivasan 2 роки тому +3

    Absolutely loved this! Thank you so much for doing this whole discussion. It felt like I was sitting right there and listening to all of you. Very very interesting conversations.

  • @Soluscide
    @Soluscide Рік тому +15

    Would love to see more of this style of content with you guys. It's cool to just listen to you guys sitting down and having a conversation with minimal editing.

  • @tavarish
    @tavarish 2 роки тому +238

    I am freaking out right now

    • @budaroddy
      @budaroddy 2 роки тому +20

      What you doing here? 😂 Misha Mansoor looks like you

    • @ryanjetton
      @ryanjetton 2 роки тому +9

      Tavarish letting his music taste out in the open on the tube!

    • @ethanschafer4684
      @ethanschafer4684 2 роки тому +3

      I was gonna say tavarish and misha look and sound similar too

    • @ColdFusion
      @ColdFusion 2 роки тому +4

      Same, what a great conversation!

    • @danteedee8204
      @danteedee8204 2 роки тому

      Some of my favorite UA-cam un one place.

  • @Geoffgeff
    @Geoffgeff 2 роки тому +50

    First we get an extended Pat Metheny interview THEN this line-up! Rick you are the absolute best!

  • @ianrivera2523
    @ianrivera2523 2 роки тому +17

    I've always been, and heck, probably always will be a bedroom artist - but - this video (for me) emphasized one thing; knowledge doesn't always trump creativity. I think I've gone down a rabbit hole, these past few years, being obsessed with all 3 of these artists and my presumption that they're all Rick Beato equals in terms of music theory. This has forced me to try and obsess with the textbook rather than my feelings. It's refreshing to hear that its okay to not understand what you're doing and just accept that it sounds good no matter how simple or complex it may be. I think the majority of us normal people have been missing that reaffirmation.. Loved this Rick. Thank you Tosin, Tim and Misha

    • @BMR86
      @BMR86 Рік тому

      I absolutely love your comment!

  • @JackOperaMan
    @JackOperaMan 2 роки тому

    Great content here. Love hearing the next wave of musicians talk about where music is going.
    Also, Rick is such a great interviewer. So supportive and reassuring, able to keep the conversation moving, and always with something interesting to add.

  • @XiXora
    @XiXora 2 роки тому +168

    Misha's smirk when Tim says, "…that 'boomer-ish' sound." 😂

    • @vav413
      @vav413 2 роки тому +30

      Tosin and Misha looked at each other and smiled lmaoooooo

    • @JohnnyBargeldBoom
      @JohnnyBargeldBoom 2 роки тому +9

      @@vav413 24:55

    • @biga2
      @biga2 2 роки тому +7

      Ikr lol and the immediate cut forward haha.

    • @RobertoReyesChHC
      @RobertoReyesChHC 2 роки тому +4

      That's cuz Beato is there.. and he is of the age that the word is used towards LOL I'm sure Tim didn't mean to offend but the energy changes after that and the cut/edit

    • @Atlas65
      @Atlas65 2 роки тому +1

      @@RobertoReyesChHC Rick Beato is a Gen X-er .. isn't he .. at least he is really close to it.

  • @curtisunit
    @curtisunit 2 роки тому +38

    “ I feel like if there’s no gray area there is no discovery.” Tosin Abasi. Wonderful thought.

    • @danielhoskins4690
      @danielhoskins4690 2 роки тому +2

      It was so reassuring to hear that opinion from someone so technically accomplished.

  • @heavenstibetsee5716
    @heavenstibetsee5716 2 роки тому +2

    Been watching your channel for a long time. Its amazing to see all these guys in one room. Tosin is a awesome guy in real life, chatted with him after a show in Little Rock.

  • @xKirano
    @xKirano Рік тому +1

    Rick, this was such a great conversation. Thank you for bringing these guys together to reflect on where we currently are.

  • @wllmmttwht7240
    @wllmmttwht7240 2 роки тому +68

    Rick knew exactly when to speak and listen during this discussion. He’s immensely knowledgeable, but humble. Again, thank you, Mr. Breato. 👍🏻

  • @Wi66pro
    @Wi66pro 2 роки тому +39

    I've never heard of these guys, just checked out Tim Henson, OMG! Goose just pissed off all my neighbours as I had it playing so loud 10pm UK time. I'm 65, thank you for opening me up to some amazing new music.

    • @rew6184
      @rew6184 2 роки тому +2

      enjoy :) tim and polyphia are changing guitar music as we speak

    • @ripit.3457
      @ripit.3457 2 роки тому

      @@jaconova it’s not pretentious, the way that guitars have been perceived in modern music is becoming different as more and more people have discovered that combining trap beats with guitar leads and melodies can creating an intoxicatingly great sound. Polyphia was one of the first bands to realize this and stick with it, thus they are most credited with furthering and evolving guitar music,

    • @corail53
      @corail53 2 роки тому +4

      @@ripit.3457 That isn't really evolving guitar playing - it's just playing another style from a music genre that already exists. If you ever look into the theory it all ends up close to the same anyway. Free Jazz guys have been doing this sort of stuff since the 70s nothing is all that new. If most people expanded their musical views outside one or two genres then they would see this but the masses mostly stick to generic nonsense so when something sounds new (still has to be melodic) people will latch on to it thinking its the best thing since sliced bread.

    • @cosmogrammar
      @cosmogrammar 2 роки тому +3

      @@corail53 there is no other band that sounds like polyphia... Nor that combines their level of technicality with pop style hooks. It's not saying that Tim is the greatest guitarist ever or that there isn't any precedent for some aspects of what they're doing, of course nothing is wholly original. But Polyphia *is* changing guitar music for gen z, them and Ichika Nito.

  • @ConnorHammond
    @ConnorHammond 2 роки тому +9

    Fantastic. Three of my all-time favourite guitarists in the same room, discussing incomprehensibly important assets to legends of our generation and those to come. I wish I was there to attribute and ask further questions. Aptitudinal!

  • @stashladki2594
    @stashladki2594 8 місяців тому +2

    Still can't wrap my head around how insanely cool everything that you do is, gathering those masterminds in one spot just having a great time, what a joy to watch and listen to all of you talk

  • @filippredin2063
    @filippredin2063 2 роки тому +44

    I wish this was a Podcast! Literally the only one I’d listen to.

  • @dulla8469
    @dulla8469 2 роки тому +27

    the most important part i took from this, is that most of us dont know what we're doing but its ok cause some of the best dont aswell... made me feel at peace with my lack of knowledge, and also thinking about the random stuff that i come up with from time to time that amaze me yet i dont know how i came up with it

  • @h8reset194
    @h8reset194 3 місяці тому

    More of this please, this was truly amazing to watch, thx for the upload

  • @davidhellegouarch1622
    @davidhellegouarch1622 2 роки тому

    Rick, thank you so much to share what you sharing in your channel. You give us access to thoughts and way of considering music that I could never had so deeply. Thank you

  • @papapetad
    @papapetad 2 роки тому +34

    This was a great gathering. Tosin is an awesome nerd. His thing about humans tapping into what others have experienced ties into a concept coined as morphogenetic field, with ideas like our brains are not so much generators of consciousness as they are receptors of consciousness, taking straight from the source (where creativity originates and things like instinct come from, where experience is recorded). Rupert Sheldrake and Bruce Lipton are excellent spokesmen for this concept.

    • @turingmachine7905
      @turingmachine7905 2 роки тому +2

      That’s why I do crossword puzzles in the evening.

    • @papapetad
      @papapetad 2 роки тому

      @@turingmachine7905 😂

  • @jonahbaerman1130
    @jonahbaerman1130 2 роки тому +278

    Misha: "it would take years to learn how to thump"
    Tim, literally right next to him: *quietly thumping*

    • @nada1.380
      @nada1.380 2 роки тому +9

      Lmao so true I watched tim master it in like 4 months (it only took me 6😂)

    • @Waterinmenbenen
      @Waterinmenbenen 2 роки тому +16

      @@nada1.380 Tim isn’t even close to mastering it though.

    • @quocbinh6674
      @quocbinh6674 2 роки тому +16

      Tim: "DONT FLEX, DO NOT FLEX"

    • @DeathBringer769
      @DeathBringer769 2 роки тому +8

      @@Waterinmenbenen If you mean at Tosin levels, it's not fair to compare because he has an alien thumb, lol. You ever seen how much that thing can curve? You can't practice that :D

    • @Waterinmenbenen
      @Waterinmenbenen 2 роки тому

      @@DeathBringer769 true

  • @jonoh4325
    @jonoh4325 2 роки тому

    Loved this conversation. They explored all the elements of feel, technique, theory and instinct, and laid bare the exploration of sound and creativity as an awesome human endeavour! Nice work!

  • @MeeshGuitar
    @MeeshGuitar Рік тому

    Thank you Rick! Thank you Tosin and Tim! I thought I had stopped progressing as a guitar player until seeing your techniques about six months ago when I crawled out from under the rock I was living. Your playing and work has reignited me. I love what you are all doing. Keep rockin'. -Meesh

  • @stagecoachrobbery
    @stagecoachrobbery 2 роки тому +22

    Glad you are giving a platform to these kinds of guitar players. Too many people are stuck in the past. I love classic rock and old school metal as much as anyone, but I can only heart Eddie Van Halen and Megadeth stories for so long.

  • @us3r11
    @us3r11 2 роки тому +3

    That's one of the best interviews out there. Thank you, Rick!

  • @philomelodia
    @philomelodia Рік тому +1

    This is one of my favorite videos on this channel. Absolute gold.

  • @CurrentlyYouTubing
    @CurrentlyYouTubing Рік тому

    This is such a fantastic interview! I learned so much and everyone in this interview is so talented in their own unique way, love it!

  • @rise4097
    @rise4097 2 роки тому +9

    What a great convo! Can’t believe I’ve been listening to all these guys for over 10 years.

  • @XeromusPrime
    @XeromusPrime 2 роки тому +12

    This is a fascinating conversation, I'd love to hear an even longer more in-depth version! Love it!

  • @Rhamirezz85
    @Rhamirezz85 2 роки тому +45

    You know, I forgot how starved I am of some quality conversations, interesting characters and great musicians. Too much that surounds us on daily basis is mediocre at best and plain stupid. I love this!! How cool is that You brought together people that influenced me in my journey thorough music! Thank You very much for this video!!

  • @cafesociety8525
    @cafesociety8525 2 роки тому +1

    Great chat with some interesting people. I love mishas attitude towards originality and making music, really genuine.

  • @elmerzcosta
    @elmerzcosta 2 роки тому +244

    Tim is almost 30 and says more "like" in a sentence than a teenager, lmao. Great talk, I found it very interesting

    • @ifoundthistoday
      @ifoundthistoday 2 роки тому +16

      kind of like the Mozart movie when ever he opened his mouth you're like oh no please don't speak

    • @EJH-jn6mo
      @EJH-jn6mo 2 роки тому +47

      He’s almost 30!!?? I would’ve guessed 17 or 18

    • @zacharypopadin9718
      @zacharypopadin9718 2 роки тому +27

      im 29 as well and the realization that timmy hendrix is OLDER than me makes me feel wayyy better about myself and my life hahaha, i spent the last 6 years thinking this guy was 18 years old but i guess that's not how the passage of time actually works. man has incredible skin for his age, good lord

    • @biga2
      @biga2 2 роки тому +20

      It's actually really interesting to see how much he seems like a kid in comparison to tosin and misha. 6 years is not that big of a difference. Also interesting to see how in the rock and metal world someone like Tim is considered young still even though he's approaching 30, where as comparing that to the pop or hip hop genre you get a way different sense of how age is perceived in terms of a person's career.

    • @JustJoshing4L
      @JustJoshing4L 2 роки тому +7

      I'm 27, and I'm also bitten by the "like" bug lol. At least it's not as bad as Jim Root saying "ya know" though😅
      Also, it's wild that Tim is older than me. Thought he was a zoomer or at least closer to being one

  • @harm9249
    @harm9249 2 роки тому +26

    Damn, Tosin is so knowledgeable. Absolutely brilliant video, so enjoyable.

  • @carlosvangas1236
    @carlosvangas1236 Рік тому

    This was a great video. loved to listen to the way all of these guys think about music and outside of the music world for comparisons or parallels. It is awesome when you find that you think alike in many ways and very differently in others with people you tend to look up to. Excellent Video Rick. you should definitely do more stuff like this. this is a Gem.

  • @roogrey
    @roogrey Рік тому +3

    There are some gems in here, and unexpected ones too. When they talk about originality and Tim uses the analogy about shopping, light bulbs went off for me! A fascinating conversation.

  • @KerryKugelman
    @KerryKugelman 2 роки тому +5

    Another home run. Rick, you are influencing the music world in so many great ways just by opening up all these spaces for discussion of things that have nowhere else to happen - but are *hugely* important for musicians and fans. Thank you for what you are doing.

  • @stevofficialmusic
    @stevofficialmusic 2 роки тому +9

    I can’t believe you pulled these three guys into a room. This is so awesome, their talent plus yours is incalculable.

  • @dillonreichel191
    @dillonreichel191 Рік тому

    Appreciate it guys 🙏🏼Rick you’re an amazing ambassador of modern music. Bridging the gap for so many. I always enjoy learning from your sage like wisdom. As any good lick would demonstrate: your simple presence, efficiency, timing, and feel added incalculable value to this conversation

  • @mdisunodebode87
    @mdisunodebode87 7 місяців тому

    Had a smile on my face the whole way through watching this. Superb interactions and topics 🔥

  • @stevecoscia
    @stevecoscia 2 роки тому +31

    From an older musician like me (67 years old) this video is fun and informative. Enlightening dialogue among generations. More videos like this please.

  • @Jasonmakesvideo
    @Jasonmakesvideo 2 роки тому +8

    this looks to be one of your greatest videos yet.
    pioneers of "guitar music"
    i love these guys!

  • @schecterdiamond177
    @schecterdiamond177 Рік тому +4

    Misha and Tosin. Y’all my spirit animals. We like the same age and all grew up playing guitar and so much of what they talkin about is exactly my feelings and views. Then you hear Tim who’s younger and his perspective is so different , love this. Very cool guys.

  • @judsonchristudas
    @judsonchristudas 2 роки тому +1

    Such a great session with these guys. Awesome job Rick.

  • @greysonwagner
    @greysonwagner 2 роки тому +4

    I loved this conversation so much. It speaks to so many things I've noticed from technology, how people will write in the future, and specifically Tim talking about how he just wanted to write music that HE wanted to listen to. I feel the same way and can't find the music I want to listen to, so... at some point I'll start writing that music. One day. Maybe...
    ...with my brain.

  • @ThomasLoyd
    @ThomasLoyd 2 роки тому +10

    This was awesome hearing a younger generation's perspective too! I have to agree with them in regards to hip hop stars versus musicians. Everyone of them are awesome and glad to hear their perspectives! Rick crossing over generational lines too! Rick, this is why you're so damn cool! Everyone is comfortable with you and you keep it real!

  • @jasonvoight3105
    @jasonvoight3105 2 роки тому

    This was as edifying as it was interesting and entertaining. Love all you guys thankyou so much, from one artist to the next

  • @ZacharyDial
    @ZacharyDial 2 роки тому +10

    It's so wild to see the different personality types.
    As a guitar player, this is one of the dopest videos ever. 😁

  • @mrhandyhandssr7839
    @mrhandyhandssr7839 2 роки тому +108

    Been listening to Misha the longest but holy crap Rick these 3 (and their bands) are my life’s playlist. Thank you so much for this content!! Wish Aaron Marshall and Plini were here lol

    • @gabor.kovacs
      @gabor.kovacs 2 роки тому +7

      So many talents can’t stay in the same room at the same time for the safety of our musical needs. :) Like the president and the wp during a critical situation, you know. Sorry, this is the law. :P (these 5 guitarists are the best in modern guitar, no question, I'm with ya. Cheers from Vienna)

    • @phryge2468
      @phryge2468 2 роки тому +5

      Plini is a great musician, but has no social contributions. Aaron Marshall is a different story. He can communicate all of it so well

    • @thekramer1097
      @thekramer1097 2 роки тому +5

      @@phryge2468 Aaron is like the kid who studies three weeks ahead of the test. Knows a lot and knows how to comunicate it

  • @MalyanDrum
    @MalyanDrum 2 роки тому +12

    Love you all! This is such touching recognition especially from Misha who's programming inspired me to play this way.
    Love your channel Rick!

  • @hasherdaggimoto9964
    @hasherdaggimoto9964 Рік тому +2

    This was such an amazing video to watch. The way I see it, as an artist who has never had nor wanted any fame, money, recognition, or anything of the sort from the things that I create, it validated a lot of the concepts that I've always felt throughout my life. I'm 36, started playing guitar when i was 12, dropped it during my early 20's due to personal issues, and at 27 decided to start learning production techniques only because I could never be in a band or follow the traditional roadmap of being a musician. Spent years learning how to use Ableton Live just to get the ideas out of my head. I don't listen to radio, don't watch the news, and am minimally social, and still create when I have the time. I feel artists base their work on monetary or social success, and it's a real shame to feel that way. True success comes from within and I encourage everyone who has a creative spark in their soul to not stop doing what they do, because the world would be such an awful place if we all felt that we sucked, or noone ever validated or praised our work.

  • @psihijatrijakrmljam
    @psihijatrijakrmljam 3 місяці тому

    this video is such a healing experience

  • @zzzaaannnn
    @zzzaaannnn 2 роки тому +60

    it always impress me how tosin is so well spoken and eloquent, like, he's got such a unique vocabulary

    • @mathewreed818
      @mathewreed818 2 роки тому +32

      And then there’s Tim, whose vocabulary consists of “like” and “fuckin”

    • @Waterinmenbenen
      @Waterinmenbenen 2 роки тому +10

      😂 I mean, like, he talks like a 17 year old valley girl, like, you know?

    • @chrisking6695
      @chrisking6695 2 роки тому +4

      He talks like a normal person IMO. Maybe you're hanging around with the wrong people lol

    • @michaelshepherd7572
      @michaelshepherd7572 2 роки тому +6

      @@chrisking6695 exactly. He’s well spoken in a world where the “younger” generation can’t put together a complete sentence.

    • @Waterinmenbenen
      @Waterinmenbenen 2 роки тому +1

      @@chrisking6695 You don’t hear Misha or Rick talk like an adolescent now do you? But to be fair, Tosin isn’t that bad. Apart from his ‘likes’ and intonation he’s pretty well spoken indeed. Henson is way worse.

  • @vashusan1984
    @vashusan1984 2 роки тому +17

    I really appreciate all the praise that Misha puts on Matt. I truly love watching and listening to Matt crush drum parts. Truly exceptional drummer and really makes that trio.

  • @JesusChavesMusic
    @JesusChavesMusic 2 роки тому

    One of the best videos from this channel up to this day!

  • @boynamedlen
    @boynamedlen 2 роки тому +3

    Super interesting, both in terms of their personal histories/influences/perspectives and from a philosophical standpoint!

  • @thepoetmustdie
    @thepoetmustdie 2 роки тому +5

    Super cool seeing everyone of you together. That was the most talented room on the continent that day.

  • @KarzGuitar
    @KarzGuitar 2 роки тому +59

    Dang, it's interesting to hear Tim's experiences. I resonate more with Misha and Tosin's experiences - the Metallica stuff, downloading songs that were purposefully mislabelled off Limewire etc and I'm two years younger than Henson.

    • @greysonwagner
      @greysonwagner 2 роки тому +11

      Took me ages to realize that the version of "As I Am" by Dream Theater I downloaded on Limewire was *not* the actual "As I Am" by Dream Theater.
      I still don't know who that band was that mislabeled their song... but the song was killer.

    • @KarzGuitar
      @KarzGuitar 2 роки тому +3

      @@greysonwagner Yeah that happened a lot! There's a few songs I try and find every now and again by googling the few lyrics I remember, but alas, can't find the real ones. (And I know its not ACTUALLY Master of Puppets, thank you Limewire.)

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 2 роки тому +7

      I think Tim takes the road less traveled in most aspects of life.

    • @TroublesomeOwl
      @TroublesomeOwl 2 роки тому +2

      I'll just never forget the endless parody songs on Napster and Limewire mislabelled as Weird Al. He was horrified by how many "comedy" songs full of racist and homophobic and sexist content were attributed to him in those days lol

    • @luryas626
      @luryas626 2 роки тому +1

      I'm like 10 years younger, yet mine is much more like his. Except it is HIS music I learn. Because this is what I wanna sound like

  • @joeyabshire184
    @joeyabshire184 2 роки тому

    Great video brother. So much raw talent in the room. Should do another, I would listen to you guys chat guitar and music for hours..

  • @phuxmusic7538
    @phuxmusic7538 2 роки тому +48

    In fact, there IS a "law" (the "Rechtsfahrgebot"), that tells you to use the right lane, if it's free, so people can pass you on the left lane :)

    • @Traumglanz
      @Traumglanz 2 роки тому +6

      Found the german :D

    • @Isdale
      @Isdale 2 роки тому +5

      Yeah, the germans don't have "unwritten rules" haha

  • @huha9080
    @huha9080 2 роки тому +115

    Misha rocking the carpenter brut shirt like a champ

  • @codybell371
    @codybell371 2 роки тому +419

    Tim admitting to have never heard Metallica’s black album validates my frustration from the many years friends and family have ridiculed me for never have listened to what they consider to be “great music”.
    On the same note, Rick stating that he learned how to produce on pro tools at 37 proves that it’s never too late learn new skills and achieve success. That’s some serious motivation right there!

    • @brigwood7658
      @brigwood7658 2 роки тому +37

      but it is weird not hearing the black album when you're a leading guitarist in the field. Not dissing it, is just shows how things have changed.

    • @Novenae_CCG
      @Novenae_CCG 2 роки тому +18

      @@brigwood7658 Yeah, it's interesting, and there's so much stuff out there now. While I've heard some of Metallica's stuff, I definitely haven't hear most of it, as they're not like my favorite band. I'm not inspired by Metallica, but I'm certainly inspired by bands who were inspired by Metallica.

    • @codybell371
      @codybell371 2 роки тому +5

      @@brigwood7658 I definitely see your point! Do you think that has to do with the difference in music that helped him developed his/Polyphia’s unique style? Tim could EASILY break out enter sandman if he wanted to, but maybe thrash wasn’t the focus of what he listened to when he learned how to play

    • @seanmatthewking
      @seanmatthewking 2 роки тому +17

      @ghost mall You most be close to 37 or older.
      I just want to say, even though you’re almost dead, it’s never too late to learn a new skill.

    • @milkcarton6654
      @milkcarton6654 2 роки тому +13

      @ghost mall Frankly i'm 43 and can barely feed and bathe myself.................. though it's more a motivation problem.

  • @duanmcinnes
    @duanmcinnes 2 роки тому

    What a bunch of intellectual legends. Awesome sit down and convo. Cheers

  • @ej1_drew
    @ej1_drew Рік тому +1

    Rick, tosin, and misha are so cultured and experienced! it's fun to watch your minds operate :) thank you for this