Would be cool if your dad got tested too and talked about his thoughts on aging and staying fit...Love how much the Buff Dudes are a full family enterprise!
One thing to keep in mind, is that men who are very masculine and have low-normal T, without low T sympotoms, often simply have higher levels of androgen receptors. Meaning they make less because they need less. Also, time of day tested is a big deal. Levels can fluctuate wildy through the day. Now, it never hurts to get better sleep, or do basic lifestyle trouble shooting, but you man not actually need testosterone any higher.
that is NOT how the androgen receptors work (if anything science proves that the higher testosterone the MORE androgen receptors the body creates in order to use the excess testosterone (androgen receptors are being made all the time its not a permanent thing), and things like shbg binding it up also matters but thats more detailed). problem is most likley they trained the day before/alcohol and like you said had the test done late in the day or late compared to their sleeping patterns, even fasted and good breakfast matters for the production aswell as other factors alongside stress, cortisol, injuries, been sick or about to get sick etc.. /endocrinologist.
Exactly what you said. If you have high receptors your T can be low but it’s fine. Did they test for free T? In either way, if you feel fine and you aren’t having any symptoms of low T then you’re probably fine and don’t need trt.
@@CharlesDavisGameFilm androgen receptors arent a permanent thing, your body makes them in order to use the free testosterone, low t means less androgen receptors. basic science.
Reminds me when I was a teenager and had to do a blood test and the intern nurse missed my vein 10 times and dumped my blood out and redid it because it didn't fill the tube when I was sick.
I don't mind ht eneedle stick, but when they have to hunt around under the skin to nail the vein gets a bit wierd and/or body dysmorphic bcause you can see and feel the hunk of metal moving about in your body.
So glad you guys are talking about this stuff. It’s nice to see health/fitness influencers being real about health and thinking about the people they are influencing! Thanks for all you do!
Just want to say that I'm so consistently impressed with your commitment to providing open and transparent knowledge on your channel. I've been following you guys for a looooong time, and I always come back to your content because of how measured it is. I appreciate how much you focus on the things ppl can do to achieve their fitness goals (whether it's to lean and get buff or just get healthier), and I like that you guys impart this knowledge in a positive, hype-free way. It's refreshing to have access to thoughtful and balanced resources as I continue along my own personal fitness journey. Appreciate y'all.
I started TRT about 4 years ago because my T level was at 140ish. I was tired all the time, when I would workout, recovery took forever so I ended up mentally defeated and stopped working out, just overall felt terrible. Can definitely attest that if you need it, it is worth it for sure, just the restful sleep alone was huge for me, it really helped with the "dad naps" that I would find myself needing every day. Glad you got it tested, hope you find the answers you seek (feeling even better) and as always, stay buff!
I fully agree, I was falling asleep at red lights etc, got my levels checked and I was 93! I started eating better, got myself a CPAP and started on TRT and feel so much better now!
@Greymatter-to3th I do an injection every week on my outer thigh. There is a spot on your outer thighs that you barely feel anything so it is a good spot. Another option if you have someone else, or are flexible is right at the top of one of your butt cheeks. If you go to a TRT clinic that performs the injections for you, this is typically where you will receive them. If you don't like needles or the idea of injections, there is also a gel and I believe a patch but these have a lower efficacy to them. I have tried the gel before, wasn't a huge fan. Also if you don't wash properly after you can get some of that testosterone on to other people you might touch like if you are picking up your kids or something. Hope that helps, if you have any other questions feel free to let me know, have been on them for roughly 3 years now.
@Greymatter-to3th The Low T centers are usually about $130-$150 a month (around here Central TX) without insurance. With insurance I pay roughly $40 a month going through the pharmacy. I hit 40 myself back in October so I feel ya. My weight really ballooned as my stress rose and my T dropped. I highly recommend getting it at least checked, it is worth it to know, then of course you can look at all of your options after that. Best of luck to you!
@Greymatter-to3th injection normally but in my case my doctor put me on Clomid for a couple reasons: 1.) My pituitary gland (I think LH levels low) wasn't sending signals to my nuts to produce test 2.) I still wanted to have children. My test levels went from the high 200s to high 800s but also get your estrogen levels checked. I didn't know but mine were twice the normal amount for a male. I also went through my eurologist for this because most "normal" practice doctors (not sure the proper name of their profession) would always scoff at me thinking I had low test.
Heya, why not just drop the time if your workouts to 20 mins, and on your days off...jump onto the bike and go for a cycle???? I'm 43, have cut my workout time down to a mere 20 mins 4-5 days a week, jump on the bike 2-3 days for 30-40 mins....feel like a 20 year old again. Low energy is a sign of doing too much, there's a great book by Debra green ..Endless Energy...good read if you get the time. As we get older we can't push the same volume or weight as we did in our 20/30's, enjoy the lifting no matter what weight it is. Other stresses in life may be attributing to draining you tho, take inventory of all stresses around you, and dial into yourself....do these stresses really bother me, or do I bother the stresses :)
Holy shit, the only requirement are dumbbells? Cause I have some dumbbells in the garage somewhere in a box. Might as well stand there and hide my shame while getting the worlds most embarrassing pump.
I was diagnosed with low testosterone levels last year 2023. My numbers were in the 100s. I couldn't even get to 200 no matter what I did. I was going to the gym 3x a week and lifting as hard as I could. I used to be a competitive powerlifter in my 20s and 30s and I was lifting tons and tons of weights without any anabolic steroids. In 2023 I got to a point where I couldn't even bench press 225, squat 225, deadlift 225. I was tired everyday. I was sluggish at work. I couldn't have erections. I had brain fog. I was depressed. I was sleeping a lot. It was terrible. Now I've been on HRT/TRT for about 5 months. I feel much better. I am training and lifting harder at the gym. Work has improved and I am enjoying work. My relationships have improved. Life is just much better.
I'm a life long natural. I've been lifting for about 50 years. I'm now 70. I had my test. checked 5 years ago and it was at 325. I have mental fog in the morning now and my libido is almost non existent. I have researching TRT and learning everything I can. I take pride in my physique and being natural. I really don't want to be on it but at my age I don't want to loose the muscle that I have worked so hard to get. I don't want to be elderly.
Who gives a shit if you are natural or not man……do you feel good or not? If you do you are all good, if not do something about it. Proud natty guy cracks me up…..no one gives a fuck what you are or are not on except you man.
@@E27043 Definitely important to get the dose right. Too much can lead to mental/emotional problems as well. But just right with good sleep can be great.
I've been watching you guys from the beginning. IMO you're the best. The natural test boost attempt would be VERY interesting to see knowing that you guys do things right and take it seriously. I'm sure there are many people on here who would be interested. Stay buff!
I started watching you guys in my early 20’s and as I have now leveled up into the big three-oh, I find it incredibly relevant to discuss testosterone and aging in general - it’s all part of the fitness journey~ Really looking forward to the next chapter of content!
You won't believe me but I had my t levels checked at 44 and I was shocked at how high they are. 1031 ng/DL. 100% natural. I work out and am in very good shape. But I'm not as buff as the Buff dudes!! ALSO my SHBG is very high. Meaning my testosterone is being binded up. And my body isn't fully accessing all that juice. So there are other factors involved in your readings that make a big difference!!
Yeah, I did a mid afternoon test recently and it came back as 650 at 43yrs old (first time ever getting it taken also) and completely natural and not close to Hudson's level of fitness despite working out for years too. Finally laying off the sweets and hoping that works. I can only imagine the swole on Hudson if he did TRT.
Hudson having low testosterone blows my mind because the guy has one of the best natural physiques out there!!!! Nothing but love and respect to both you guys! Stay buff!!!
He doesn't have low testosterone. He's in the bottom of the healthy range. Also testosterone varies during the month, with sleep and stress. He's a familly man, sleep poorly as he said. They have done a study and show that 5 nights of 6 hours of sleep decrease testosterone by 10 to 15%. He doesn't have low T, he got an average testosterone for a man of his age.
Same experience here. I'm 46 and tested around 320-340 a few years back. Introduced the following into my diet, and two years later tested around 570: - Smoothies 3 days a week containing: Cinnamon, heaping spoon of maca powder, unsweetened coconut, Brazil nuts, macadamia nuts, raisins. - Began taking these supplements daily: Pumpkin seed oil (1000mg), Vitamin D (5000 IU's), Pomegranate extract (250mg), Boron (3mg), Taurine (1000mg), Tribulus Terrestris (1500mg) I also lift weights with high intensity 5 days a week, 45-90 mins per sesh, do Level-2 cardio 30 mins 2x week, and walk 10k steps per day. I already lifted and did some cardio prior to upping my testosterone naturally but felt I should include this just to be thorough. I'm living proof this can be done. Good luck, brother!
I appreciate the sharing. So many influences will keep this type of data under lock and key. Discussions like this help those of us who want to be and stay totally natty.
Hudson Low Testosterone sucks. When I was 50 I was at T level of 150. I was 107 lbs overweight with a fatty liver and 1/10th of a point of having Type II diabetes. I had trouble just getting out of bed my energy levels were so low. I went and seen a naturopathic doctor in Portland who put me on TRT replacement therapy. I lost 100 lbs in 7 months and reversed all the bad stuff. 8 years later I’m still running 4 times a week and lifting 5 days a week. TRT saved my life
I’ve been watching all of your videos over the last month while I’m in the gym. Hudson looks like he is blown up with muscle. It looks like he’s in the best shape I’ve ever seen him in. I think you guys should do a video on just what Hudson has done to pack on the extra size. Even with less sleep and inconsistent workouts- you look swole dude!
Hudson and Brandon are 2 of the few people in this space that ACTAULLY influence me because I can relate to them. Im just a regular guy that works, thats a dad, thats a husband and that lifts just because I have always had a genuine love for it. Never done steroids or any of that Jazz. 1 year ago I had my Testosterone checked and I was only at 202. My Dr prescribed me TRT and it has improved my life. I was the guy no one would expect to be low on Testosterone because I am big, strong, muscular and in a good mood 99% of the time. My sex life with my wife was amazing and I had NO issues with my "performance" in the bedroom. I was shocked to discover I was that Low on T. Now Im back in the 700-900 range and Im feeling even better than ever!. You don't know that you are not feeling 100% until you are finally feeling 100% and you realize that the old you was only really at 50%.
How can you relate to them? They are no regular dudes. They are fitness influencer who are living of their physiques. It's not like they are just dudes that work out.
@jeremyspencer5301 But you'll need to keep paying through the roof for TRT for the rest of your life as your body will stop producing any naturally. So hopefully you wont lose your job or run into financial difficulties as your testosterone will fall to zero.
Looking forward to the update, i also recently did bloodwork and got a low 300 score, 35yo no symptoms of low test, so basically im just saying screw it, everything still works, even at the peak of a bulk i still am happy with my body, Hopefully everything works out for ya no matter what ya decide, ill definitely be looking forward to you being a guinea pig for me too 😂
Hudson I’m curious if you’ll be specific in your videos about your drinking amounts prior to your test. That’s something I think a lot of guys wonder about. I quit drinking completely a couple years ago and though I didn’t test my test before or after, I can tell you I slept so much better ever since which surely helps the T situation. I was drinking like 2-3 beers most nights of the week after 5pm, so not crazy, but still a habit that was slowing me down. Good luck on your journey Hudson!
Everyone is different. As long as you are healthy, that is all that matters. I go to the gym a few times a week, eat well for the most part and get a good amount of sleep and my T is quite high for my age. Throughout my life, I never did anything unhealthy, never took T or Steroids or anything else. I don't drink, smoke or do drugs. When I was 49, my T was 1080 and at 51 my T was 890. Currently, I am 52, 155 lbs and 5.7. I have always been lean but within the last 5 years my waist has gone up to 30 inches and my chest/back was 40 inches and now is 37 inches. My muscle and strength are not the same but I am still lean overall for my age.
Goals man, I'm 21(turning 22 this year) and have been at it for almost 4 years. Never smoked, never had first drink, never did drugs and trying to get like you guys!!!
nobody is really truly healthy. We haven't been eating a species appropriate diet for nearly 12,000 years ever since the advent of agriculture. We should be 6 inches taller than we are now on average with 20% larger brains, have more development in our jaws, stronger bones, etc. I would encourage people to read George J. Armelagos "Paleopathology at the Origins of Agriculture" as well as Pottenger's Cats study. We're so far away from optimal health as a species it's crazy.
Excited for this series. My husband is searching for more T and is buying ridiculous supplements that don’t do anything. Wish he would lift weights. It is supposed to be one of the best things, that and nutrition and sleep. Thanks for sharing your results. I have turned on the notifications- can’t wait for it to start!
It's like I said in the video, I feel good, but I want to see if I can feel even better. There's still some things I think I can improve (drinking, diet) and I want to make a goal of improving them over the next couple of months and then make a follow up video. 💪
This one hits home Hudson. I got my T levels checked in January and I as well found that my levels are in the 300's. I am very interested in the videos coming ahead to understand what works and how we can all naturally increase our levels without taking the TRT route. Good luck brother! We are rooting for you!
4:46 I run gear, not a crazy cycle. I only use test cyp and it's about 450 MG a week but that would put my test levels well above normal. Above the buff dudes, have been for a few years and I don't look as good as them. The effects are vastly over blown. Genetics still probably play the biggest role in bodybuilding
There's many studies showing that becoming a father triggers a significant drop in test' levels. It's believed it's because it helps us be more empathetic, caring, understanding etc and so become better parents.
Great timing on the subject guys! I just tested 234 last week... it was fasted but i didnt realize i needed to test early in the day, so i tested after 4 in the afternoon. Im on the same journey to increase my T naturally. Will get tested again in a couple months. Ive been watching yall for probably over 10 years at this point, and i still enjoy ythe content. Thanks!
Recently had my testosterone tested as well. I'm 46 and somewhat 'Jacked'. Never taken TRT or Steroids. My test is 277. I'm still able to gain muscle, and stay jacked. No need to get TRT...
This vid is extra cool because you guys are not just jacked natties but also brothers, so shows us that even with extremely similar genetics, fitness etc testosterone can still vary a lot and still be at a healthy level
You guys inspired me to check my testosterone levels and also going to do your dumbbell and band workout. I will also check back in a few months you guys inspired me and hopefully build a better community of healthy men and women doing it naturally. #staybuff
Hudson I would highly recommend a recheck but having it within 3 hours of waking. Men go through almost sort of a “period” daily where they peak testosterone early in the morning and as they go through the day it decreases. This is why they prefer them as early as possible. If you were to check the level later (say 4) it would be even lower
About 7 years ago I had my test levels measured. I was 273 at 26 years old. I always worked out but I was heavy with sleep apnea. A year ago I had it tested again. It was 563. The biggest difference for me was I lost 70lbs, and no longer have sleep apnea. You can increase your test levels naturally. You just have to find what is hampering you.
That is hilarious. There’s no such thing as a lie detector test. They are only stress detector test. Either way, I appreciate the transparency and I hope to learn more about the subject in general.
Another great video! You both are doing a tremendous service in sharing this information and full transparency. Can't wait to see the follow up results!
Dudes, just showing total T isn’t enough. Free T is bio available, needs to be measured. If your SHBG is too high, it doesn’t matter what total number is…
One thing to note about the range you were given, that is going to be dependent on the lab that is actually doing the test. I've been getting mine measured every year for about a decade now. With the exception of the 2023 one, they were all done by the Mayo Clinic's lab which uses/used a 250-950ng/dL range. Last year's was done by CB - Labcorp Dublin in Dublin, OH. They use a 264-916ng/dL scale. My very first test had me well outside the normal range on the low side. Your average 85yo man had a higher level than mine came in at. I did the injections, administered by my PCP, which got me to just inside the normal range at 303. Last measurement was 927. The interesting thing was three years ago, it was 860ng/dL and two years ago it actually dropped to 697ng/dL. That timeline between those two tests matched when I cycled off a supplement and cycled back onto it between the 697 and 926 tests.
The irony of the fitness industry is that many of the influencers are on gear, body dismorphia has become a thing, gym users openly use drugs and think that it's ok because of social media outlets promoting this and nearly everyone is looking for the same jacked appearance. Single digit bodyfat takes a huge daily commitment and cycles must be maintained or increased depending on if you want to keep that physique. Who is actually in this for the long-term? because that is actually where it's at. All imho...
I’m really excited to watch the new series Hudson! That’ll be super interesting to see how far you can take it naturally. But yeah- y’all’s hair is 🤌🏻 the locks must be on roids cause those hairlines are strong 🔥 hahaha
Avoid products with hormonal blockers, avoid things from plastic, avoid plastic tupperware, even worst heating plastic, avoid plastic bottles, while cooking use iron or wood tools. Trust me. It will help with the testostérone levels
i'm no medical doctor or psychiatrist/psychologist, but Hudson's low testo might be common among dads/happily married men. their psychological state is different than single men and that affects their hormones.
I started TRT about 5 years ago...I was 247. The funny thing is, the averages have changed over the years. The average in the 1950s was a 1,000 - now it's 250-1100.
lads fair play to you , to many so called fitness influencers claiming to be natural . Delighted with them results keep the channel going , thanks very much for putting yourselfs out there
The total testosterone number isn't all that matters - one may have a high testosterone level, but also have a low sensitivity to testosterone, or have a low testosterone level, but also have a high sensitivity to testosterone...
@@mikerude5073 Yep! In looking to improve our health, our testosterone levels may actually decrease, but it may also be the case that our sensitivity to testosterone increases - and there are no doubt other variables which come into play...
Looking forward to the series. I love how transparent and authentic you all have always seemed to be. Keep it up. More muscle, more testosterone. Medical testosterone treatment with a prescription is not a big deal - they keep it to a minimum. When middle age strikes and testosterone drops, you might definitely notice it emotionally - I did.
I competed in natural bodybuilding shows back in the 90s. They only did a lie detector test. I'm 6' and competed at a shredded 190 pounds. There were guys that were 6 foot 1 and 225 pounds shredded that got past the lie detector test. You could tell these guys were juiced. I couldn't compete against those guys. So I stopped competing altogether.
@ukestudio3002 Yes, I still lift. I'm 54 and train with weights 4 days a week, HIIT training one day, steady state VO2 cardio one day, and rest one day.
Yeah exactly, Brandon has generally good arm genetics, but the shape Hudson is in is absolutely crazy, given he has to put in that much more effort. Also ofc, test levels change after becoming a father, and in your mid 30s.
Great idea for a series. One idea you should explore or have a guest to discuss: what is the impact of fatherhood on testosterone? Apparently fatherhood decreases testosterone a lot, and Hudson vs Brandon results would support that. It also dips if your partner is pregnant (look out Hudson! ) Also, definitely get a whoop to help with sleep and recovery tracking. Seeing the impact that alcohol, caffeine and processed foods has definitely changed my habits. I still consume alcohol and coffee but try to be more thoughtful about when and how much
One thing to Remember, Hudson has a Children. When men have kids, their testosterone does decrease and naturally they pack on body fat to prepare for the sleepless nights. It's Normal. As we get older our levels will decrease, so it's nothing to be afraid of
The drug testing at natural bodybuilding shows is a joke. If you're competing as an amateur you likely won't be tested at all. The pros do get random tests throughout the year and at the end of the show.
I feel you guys. My test was at 227. My doctor immediately put me on 1 ml of test every 10 days. It went up to 661 on my next test. My situation is a bit different though. I’m 5’10, 263 (I was at 283 when I started on it). My sex drive was low which is abnormal for me, I was tired all the time and my gym sessions were shit. I was flabby. There are definitely foods that can boost your test naturally. If you don’t like needles, there are test creams too. I’m getting checked again soon, and I want to try to get off the trt. I’m in the gym 4-5 days a week, and cleaning up my diet. Fingers crossed you can do it naturally Hudson. I still hate needles and I’ve been jabbing myself for the last 4 months.
1.) The reason Hudson's level was only 328 is (almost guaranteed) because he fasted for a longer period of time and the test was done later in the day. Repeat the test under the same time and conditions as Brandon and I'd be very surprised if Hudson's level wasn't right around 700 2.) Polygraph tests (lie detector tests) have been used for decades but are ultimately a pseudoscience. They have no scientific backing whatsoever. One person can lie through their teeth and pass just fine while another could tell the truth and fail the test. Polygraphs do not give consistent answers. They're only still in use because a majority of people don't know that they're a bunk pseudoscience.
@@arthurfonzarelli9828 you're getting your stats straight from a steroid dealer, 95% of men are not below 400 ng/dl. The mean for 20-44 year olds is 466 so that means 50% of men in that age range are well above 466
I’d definitely watch your videos about natural testosterone rejuvenation. I’m 41 and have similar numbers and a decent but not perfect workout routine etc. been contemplating taking test boosters.
I hope this video inspires a lot of men. Jumping on TRT is a bandaid that doesn't address the root causes (stress, poor sleep, alcohol, shift work, no sunshine, etc.)
it's always weird that people like plates think that a 6'1 person weighing about 220 has to be on gear. Looking at you guys its a very attainable physique. If you live the lifestyle
I think the thing is the lighting and photos and the way they're taken. Like, you see a carefully shot photo or video that enhances their physique with good lighting and angles and it's like "no way those dudes are natty." Then you see a more candid video and think "okay, yeah, great genetics and a ton of work, but that's achievable."
Scooby back in the day... like years and years ago... already pointed this out. For most people who have been lifting a long time you can achieve a decent level because of cumulative gains year after year. It's the really young guys who are already ripped and lean year-round who are sus.
“Very attainable” might be a stretch. Like I’ve always believed these guys are natural but they definitely have pretty high above average genetics, most people could never expect to achieve physiques similar to theirs, some even with PEDs.
I've been following you guys for years because you always act respectively and always fun and your videos always enjoyable, love how the transition into fatherhood and even showcasing injuries show a much more real side to many other fitness youtubers. You guys strive to live a healthy lifestyle and working out just to be "Buff Dudes"which is also my goal. Im also 39years old now and can definitely see as the age is getting along its becoming harder to train with your Testosterone lowering. Mine is also around Hudson's current level and can definitely feel its taking longer to heal, need more rest days, strength definitely effected as where I could easily bench press 160-200Kg's before I am now having to take that ligher due to feeling shoulder fatigue. Age and lowering of Testosterone definitely effected. I was also greeted with TRT sales speech and definitely considering it... But wife and myself want a kid so can't take that chance as of yet. May God Bless you gents. Thanks for videos
We also have to remember the difference in lifestyle they have. One has kids which generally ends up with lower quality of sleep as well as less sleep in general. Sleep has a HUGE effect on Test levels. While the other does not have children which most likely means he gets better quality sleep as well as longer sleep.
328 is still normal, especially for someone in their mid to late 30s. Test levels also naturally change when you become a father and you're deep into family life, something Brandon isn't into yet. He should recheck his if/when he has a couple kids.
300’s absolutely is not normal for a healthy man in his 30’s. That range chart is for men 18 to like 80. He’s basically in the range of a 60 year old man. I’d like to see his free numbers though as that tells more.
I'm 39, and have a testosterone level of 703. The total testosterone number isn't all that matters - one may have a high testosterone level, but also have a low sensitivity to testosterone, or have a low testosterone level, but also have a high sensitivity to testosterone.
@@TrueNewb It's completely fine. When I was about 28yo, single, and regularly weight training, I was around the low 400s. I was probably in the best shape that I had ever been in at the time. The only reason I got it checked was because I was curious from having watched a bunch of fitness UA-camrs talk about it, otherwise I had no abnormal drops in energy or performance deficiencies. Obsessing over these numbers is a silly thing to do. He's very clearly not hypogonadal, so pointless to ruminate on getting to some arbitrary physiological "ideal."
They’re both on gear. Look at their necks, unless they’re doing neck curls daily that’s from gear, period. They didn’t include LH and FSH in their blood tests which is literally the ONLY accurate way to confirm natty status. They’re trying to bait “natty or not” UA-camrs to respond for engagement, this test was as Mickey Mouse as it gets.
46 male. Worked out pretty hard for twenty years with moderate results due mostly to varying degrees of focus through those years. Was having some serious fatigue and mental issues so I got tested for all the hormones. Test came back 240’ish. Decided to try testosterone cream. Game changer. Immediately improved the quality of my life. I don’t care about the performance in the gym aspects as much as I do my family side. My 8 year old daughter tells people how daddy’s new medicine lets him play with her again. That’s the good stuff.
Hudson you're already in the age and have children, you 100% can apply for trt, and duke too of course.. that could be one hell of experiment with brandon being in the natural higher range.
My testosterone comes in at around 320. It has for the last couple of years and I am bigger and stronger than 99% of the population. Suffered a bad groin injury in 2020, it did not get addressed for nearly a year because of the pandemic. In that time, my T levels dropped to 176 where I experienced a lot of side effects associated with low. T. Never had to resort to hormone therapy. Sleep, basic nutrition, and consistent/frequent exercise did the trick to raise it by about 150 points. You’ll probably do better, seeing as my issue was caused by damage to the area and there’s only so much better it can get.
My personal TRT journey. I was 25 and was struggling to go to the gym and when I did I would feel like crap, could never recover. Gained weight and felt generally like trash. Got up to 260lbs, mostly fat. I got my testosterone levels checked I was at 210ng/dl, which was under the range. But, I was DETERMINED to get those numbers up naturally. I did everything the pamphlet and videos said. Ate more red meat, ate more cruciferous vegetables, got on a strict sleep schedule, did moderate intensity cardio, lifted weights, did nightly stretching, took Creatine and others supplements, I was beyond obsessed. I already didn't drink, smoke, or do drugs. But overall I really took a hard right turn to a better version of myself. Dropped 10lbs even. I was super stoked. I went back to get my levels checked 3 months later. My test came back EVEN LOWER at 177ng/dl. At that point, I knew something was up and I started TRT. No shame in this, it's just a weekly injection and an estrogen blocker to help keep myself in balance. Best. Decision. I. Ever. Made. My life is 10,000% better. My sex life is better with my wife, my attitude towards life is better, I'm 40lbs lighter, stronger than I've ever been, minimum 3 days per week in the gym lifting high intensity, my business is better, my relationships with people are better. Don't feel ashamed if you need to get your levels up, follow the advice of your doctor and do your research. I love the buff dudes, however these guys have been natural their whole life and generally speak against it like it's a bad thing or something that should be avoided. But, I was 25, now 32, and it just was what I had to do to get through life and be a better version of myself. I would say we have a low testosterone problem in this country, we are showing the lowest testosterone levels ever in my generation and younger. Hope this inspires others to get themselves checked.
Your both stupid, get some knowledge and experience. There are so many side effects for people that take steroids and the brothers don't exhibit any of them. These guys are simply the best in the fitness world show some respect.
As ever, great video. Love the honest, humble delivery. Yes, it would be lovely to be told you have a 1000 plus testosterone count, but I don't think you guys need to worry about the paperwork: you are, after all, the Buff Dudes. I am a baby boomer, and have never worried about my testosterone levels. Of course, everyone tells you that it gets lower with age, and I won't argue with that. However, if you can still 'raise a shout', I'd say that's a pretty good indication that your testosterone levels are in the zone.
You guys are putting out some really good, relatable videos recently especially - thank you! I’m 5’9 at 185lb, been lifting for nearly 20 years fully natural - crazy to see what is possible if taking steroids, so the temptation is definitely there, especially for kids just starting out
For 20 years?! What are your 1 RPMs for the major lifts if you don't mind sharing? I'm basically the identical height and weight but only in at 7 years.
Looking forward to seeing how and if you can BUFF your own testosterone naturally through a healthier lifestyle and focusing on sleep, training, diet etc 💪
Would be cool if your dad got tested too and talked about his thoughts on aging and staying fit...Love how much the Buff Dudes are a full family enterprise!
Buff Dudes are back Yeahhh💪
Hudson and Brandon back at it! Hope the buff family has a killer weekend!
One thing to keep in mind, is that men who are very masculine and have low-normal T, without low T sympotoms, often simply have higher levels of androgen receptors. Meaning they make less because they need less. Also, time of day tested is a big deal. Levels can fluctuate wildy through the day. Now, it never hurts to get better sleep, or do basic lifestyle trouble shooting, but you man not actually need testosterone any higher.
Plus they could have just stopped taking their cycles for a while to do this ._. 👀
that is NOT how the androgen receptors work (if anything science proves that the higher testosterone the MORE androgen receptors the body creates in order to use the excess testosterone (androgen receptors are being made all the time its not a permanent thing), and things like shbg binding it up also matters but thats more detailed). problem is most likley they trained the day before/alcohol and like you said had the test done late in the day or late compared to their sleeping patterns, even fasted and good breakfast matters for the production aswell as other factors alongside stress, cortisol, injuries, been sick or about to get sick etc.. /endocrinologist.
Exactly what you said. If you have high receptors your T can be low but it’s fine. Did they test for free T? In either way, if you feel fine and you aren’t having any symptoms of low T then you’re probably fine and don’t need trt.
@@CharlesDavisGameFilm androgen receptors arent a permanent thing, your body makes them in order to use the free testosterone, low t means less androgen receptors. basic science.
That is how sarms are supposed to work, increase the androgen receptors in muscle and bones but not in other tissues.🤔
Dude not looking at the needle while the blood's being taken, I completely understand.
Negative, you need to look, right at it, embrace it.
If you don't look at the needle it means your test level is low. High level - You don't care about some needle or red liquid dude;)
Reminds me when I was a teenager and had to do a blood test and the intern nurse missed my vein 10 times and dumped my blood out and redid it because it didn't fill the tube when I was sick.
I don't mind ht eneedle stick, but when they have to hunt around under the skin to nail the vein gets a bit wierd and/or body dysmorphic bcause you can see and feel the hunk of metal moving about in your body.
You should watch them take it out of the packet in case they use a dirty one by accident. That’s what I do.
So glad you guys are talking about this stuff. It’s nice to see health/fitness influencers being real about health and thinking about the people they are influencing! Thanks for all you do!
Quitting drinking has been a great idea for me.
when did u quit? i did like half year ago and just now i start to truly feel the implications and benefits of quitting
@ThePagiria October, so probably around the same time. I noticed better sleep pretty quick.
I don’t drink often but I realized today it makes me super depressed the day after.
@@bradhopkins2248 by drinking ppl only shrink there awarness
@@bradhopkins2248 💯
Just want to say that I'm so consistently impressed with your commitment to providing open and transparent knowledge on your channel. I've been following you guys for a looooong time, and I always come back to your content because of how measured it is. I appreciate how much you focus on the things ppl can do to achieve their fitness goals (whether it's to lean and get buff or just get healthier), and I like that you guys impart this knowledge in a positive, hype-free way. It's refreshing to have access to thoughtful and balanced resources as I continue along my own personal fitness journey. Appreciate y'all.
I started TRT about 4 years ago because my T level was at 140ish. I was tired all the time, when I would workout, recovery took forever so I ended up mentally defeated and stopped working out, just overall felt terrible. Can definitely attest that if you need it, it is worth it for sure, just the restful sleep alone was huge for me, it really helped with the "dad naps" that I would find myself needing every day. Glad you got it tested, hope you find the answers you seek (feeling even better) and as always, stay buff!
I fully agree, I was falling asleep at red lights etc, got my levels checked and I was 93! I started eating better, got myself a CPAP and started on TRT and feel so much better now!
@Greymatter-to3th I do an injection every week on my outer thigh. There is a spot on your outer thighs that you barely feel anything so it is a good spot. Another option if you have someone else, or are flexible is right at the top of one of your butt cheeks. If you go to a TRT clinic that performs the injections for you, this is typically where you will receive them.
If you don't like needles or the idea of injections, there is also a gel and I believe a patch but these have a lower efficacy to them. I have tried the gel before, wasn't a huge fan. Also if you don't wash properly after you can get some of that testosterone on to other people you might touch like if you are picking up your kids or something.
Hope that helps, if you have any other questions feel free to let me know, have been on them for roughly 3 years now.
@Greymatter-to3th The Low T centers are usually about $130-$150 a month (around here Central TX) without insurance. With insurance I pay roughly $40 a month going through the pharmacy. I hit 40 myself back in October so I feel ya. My weight really ballooned as my stress rose and my T dropped. I highly recommend getting it at least checked, it is worth it to know, then of course you can look at all of your options after that. Best of luck to you!
@Greymatter-to3th injection normally but in my case my doctor put me on Clomid for a couple reasons:
1.) My pituitary gland (I think LH levels low) wasn't sending signals to my nuts to produce test
2.) I still wanted to have children.
My test levels went from the high 200s to high 800s but also get your estrogen levels checked. I didn't know but mine were twice the normal amount for a male. I also went through my eurologist for this because most "normal" practice doctors (not sure the proper name of their profession) would always scoff at me thinking I had low test.
Heya, why not just drop the time if your workouts to 20 mins, and on your days off...jump onto the bike and go for a cycle???? I'm 43, have cut my workout time down to a mere 20 mins 4-5 days a week, jump on the bike 2-3 days for 30-40 mins....feel like a 20 year old again.
Low energy is a sign of doing too much, there's a great book by Debra green ..Endless Energy...good read if you get the time. As we get older we can't push the same volume or weight as we did in our 20/30's, enjoy the lifting no matter what weight it is. Other stresses in life may be attributing to draining you tho, take inventory of all stresses around you, and dial into yourself....do these stresses really bother me, or do I bother the stresses :)
Just finished phase 1 of the Buff Dudes dumbbells plan.
Yeeeea!
Holy shit, the only requirement are dumbbells? Cause I have some dumbbells in the garage somewhere in a box. Might as well stand there and hide my shame while getting the worlds most embarrassing pump.
Yes and its a fun challenge IMO
I was diagnosed with low testosterone levels last year 2023. My numbers were in the 100s. I couldn't even get to 200 no matter what I did. I was going to the gym 3x a week and lifting as hard as I could. I used to be a competitive powerlifter in my 20s and 30s and I was lifting tons and tons of weights without any anabolic steroids. In 2023 I got to a point where I couldn't even bench press 225, squat 225, deadlift 225. I was tired everyday. I was sluggish at work. I couldn't have erections. I had brain fog. I was depressed. I was sleeping a lot. It was terrible. Now I've been on HRT/TRT for about 5 months. I feel much better. I am training and lifting harder at the gym. Work has improved and I am enjoying work. My relationships have improved. Life is just much better.
buff dudes are so down to earth. love you guys thanks for 12 years of content! You got me into loving working out
Thanks Reed, that makes us really proud to hear that! 💪
I'm a life long natural. I've been lifting for about 50 years. I'm now 70. I had my test. checked 5 years ago and it was at 325. I have mental fog in the morning now and my libido is almost non existent. I have researching TRT and learning everything I can. I take pride in my physique and being natural. I really don't want to be on it but at my age I don't want to loose the muscle that I have worked so hard to get. I don't want to be elderly.
Embrace your destiny and how you were made.
Who gives a shit if you are natural or not man……do you feel good or not? If you do you are all good, if not do something about it. Proud natty guy cracks me up…..no one gives a fuck what you are or are not on except you man.
OTC test boosters can help with a lot of that. Not sure if that counts.
Get on TRT man, the muscle part is probably the least effect you should care about, first of all you should care about your mental wellbeing
@@E27043 Definitely important to get the dose right. Too much can lead to mental/emotional problems as well. But just right with good sleep can be great.
I've been watching you guys from the beginning. IMO you're the best.
The natural test boost attempt would be VERY interesting to see knowing that you guys do things right and take it seriously. I'm sure there are many people on here who would be interested.
Stay buff!
I started watching you guys in my early 20’s and as I have now leveled up into the big three-oh, I find it incredibly relevant to discuss testosterone and aging in general - it’s all part of the fitness journey~ Really looking forward to the next chapter of content!
You guys remain inspirations. Keep it up
Excellent idea! Looking forward to videos on this!
You won't believe me but I had my t levels checked at 44 and I was shocked at how high they are. 1031 ng/DL. 100% natural. I work out and am in very good shape. But I'm not as buff as the Buff dudes!!
ALSO my SHBG is very high. Meaning my testosterone is being binded up. And my body isn't fully accessing all that juice. So there are other factors involved in your readings that make a big difference!!
Exactly, your free testosterone aka the unbound readily available one is the one making most of the difference rather than total testosterone level
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Yeah, I did a mid afternoon test recently and it came back as 650 at 43yrs old (first time ever getting it taken also) and completely natural and not close to Hudson's level of fitness despite working out for years too. Finally laying off the sweets and hoping that works. I can only imagine the swole on Hudson if he did TRT.
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Hey also 44 here. I need to get SHBG checked next time, I only had a raw score of 801
Hudson having low testosterone blows my mind because the guy has one of the best natural physiques out there!!!! Nothing but love and respect to both you guys! Stay buff!!!
He doesn't have low testosterone. He's in the bottom of the healthy range. Also testosterone varies during the month, with sleep and stress. He's a familly man, sleep poorly as he said. They have done a study and show that 5 nights of 6 hours of sleep decrease testosterone by 10 to 15%. He doesn't have low T, he got an average testosterone for a man of his age.
Just shows that not only are his genes really good for being buffed, but also eating and training regime are really good.
@@tapioperala3010Real
@@bertrandronge9019 it's definitely not average for his age
Same experience here. I'm 46 and tested around 320-340 a few years back. Introduced the following into my diet, and two years later tested around 570:
- Smoothies 3 days a week containing: Cinnamon, heaping spoon of maca powder, unsweetened coconut, Brazil nuts, macadamia nuts, raisins.
- Began taking these supplements daily: Pumpkin seed oil (1000mg), Vitamin D (5000 IU's), Pomegranate extract (250mg), Boron (3mg), Taurine (1000mg), Tribulus Terrestris (1500mg)
I also lift weights with high intensity 5 days a week, 45-90 mins per sesh, do Level-2 cardio 30 mins 2x week, and walk 10k steps per day. I already lifted and did some cardio prior to upping my testosterone naturally but felt I should include this just to be thorough. I'm living proof this can be done. Good luck, brother!
That's awesome
I love Maca and also use it, good stuff.
Damn bro u are out there!!! Keep it up
Buff dudes you are the best. Always honest, down to earth and giving best advices.
That’s why you Guys are my favourite fitness influencers
I appreciate the sharing. So many influences will keep this type of data under lock and key. Discussions like this help those of us who want to be and stay totally natty.
Yes! Yes! Yes! Do that series, please!
jesus how is hudsons hair so fucken good
One of the benefits of having not as high Testosterone.
Brandon's hair when he grows it out is also fantastic
My hair already starts getting white 😢
Low t
genetics. Both of these dudes have great hair for being 35+
Hudson Low Testosterone sucks. When I was 50 I was at T level of 150. I was 107 lbs overweight with a fatty liver and 1/10th of a point of having Type II diabetes. I had trouble just getting out of bed my energy levels were so low. I went and seen a naturopathic doctor in Portland who put me on TRT replacement therapy. I lost 100 lbs in 7 months and reversed all the bad stuff. 8 years later I’m still running 4 times a week and lifting 5 days a week. TRT saved my life
I’ve been watching all of your videos over the last month while I’m in the gym. Hudson looks like he is blown up with muscle. It looks like he’s in the best shape I’ve ever seen him in. I think you guys should do a video on just what Hudson has done to pack on the extra size. Even with less sleep and inconsistent workouts- you look swole dude!
I really like that series idea! The goal to improve natural testosterone, could be really interesting
Can’t wait to watch Hudson’s videos!
Hudson and Brandon are 2 of the few people in this space that ACTAULLY influence me because I can relate to them. Im just a regular guy that works, thats a dad, thats a husband and that lifts just because I have always had a genuine love for it. Never done steroids or any of that Jazz. 1 year ago I had my Testosterone checked and I was only at 202. My Dr prescribed me TRT and it has improved my life. I was the guy no one would expect to be low on Testosterone because I am big, strong, muscular and in a good mood 99% of the time. My sex life with my wife was amazing and I had NO issues with my "performance" in the bedroom. I was shocked to discover I was that Low on T. Now Im back in the 700-900 range and Im feeling even better than ever!. You don't know that you are not feeling 100% until you are finally feeling 100% and you realize that the old you was only really at 50%.
Are there any negative symptoms when you get trt prescribed by a doctor?
I have the exact same story except that I didn't go for the jab and my testosterone was slightly higher at 268.. still think of taking it to this day
How can you relate to them? They are no regular dudes. They are fitness influencer who are living of their physiques. It's not like they are just dudes that work out.
@jeremyspencer5301 But you'll need to keep paying through the roof for TRT for the rest of your life as your body will stop producing any naturally. So hopefully you wont lose your job or run into financial difficulties as your testosterone will fall to zero.
Looking forward to the update, i also recently did bloodwork and got a low 300 score, 35yo no symptoms of low test, so basically im just saying screw it, everything still works, even at the peak of a bulk i still am happy with my body, Hopefully everything works out for ya no matter what ya decide, ill definitely be looking forward to you being a guinea pig for me too 😂
Hudson I’m curious if you’ll be specific in your videos about your drinking amounts prior to your test. That’s something I think a lot of guys wonder about. I quit drinking completely a couple years ago and though I didn’t test my test before or after, I can tell you I slept so much better ever since which surely helps the T situation.
I was drinking like 2-3 beers most nights of the week after 5pm, so not crazy, but still a habit that was slowing me down.
Good luck on your journey Hudson!
This is a great series idea. I haven’t been watching the channel closely but this would bring me back. Real stuff. Appreciate you guys
Everyone is different. As long as you are healthy, that is all that matters. I go to the gym a few times a week, eat well for the most part and get a good amount of sleep and my T is quite high for my age. Throughout my life, I never did anything unhealthy, never took T or Steroids or anything else. I don't drink, smoke or do drugs. When I was 49, my T was 1080 and at 51 my T was 890. Currently, I am 52, 155 lbs and 5.7. I have always been lean but within the last 5 years my waist has gone up to 30 inches and my chest/back was 40 inches and now is 37 inches. My muscle and strength are not the same but I am still lean overall for my age.
Goals man, I'm 21(turning 22 this year) and have been at it for almost 4 years. Never smoked, never had first drink, never did drugs and trying to get like you guys!!!
nobody is really truly healthy. We haven't been eating a species appropriate diet for nearly 12,000 years ever since the advent of agriculture. We should be 6 inches taller than we are now on average with 20% larger brains, have more development in our jaws, stronger bones, etc.
I would encourage people to read George J. Armelagos "Paleopathology at the Origins of Agriculture" as well as Pottenger's Cats study.
We're so far away from optimal health as a species it's crazy.
Excited for this series. My husband is searching for more T and is buying ridiculous supplements that don’t do anything. Wish he would lift weights. It is supposed to be one of the best things, that and nutrition and sleep. Thanks for sharing your results. I have turned on the notifications- can’t wait for it to start!
If you're not experiencing any symptoms, surely there's no problem?
It's like I said in the video, I feel good, but I want to see if I can feel even better. There's still some things I think I can improve (drinking, diet) and I want to make a goal of improving them over the next couple of months and then make a follow up video. 💪
Right? He already looks like Thor, what more should you want?
Wait, you people feel good? I'm always tired
Elimination diet my friend. Ignore fads, find what is best for you.
This one hits home Hudson. I got my T levels checked in January and I as well found that my levels are in the 300's. I am very interested in the videos coming ahead to understand what works and how we can all naturally increase our levels without taking the TRT route. Good luck brother! We are rooting for you!
You prove yet again, why you're one of the best fitness creators there are! I'm motivated again lol
By lying to you?
@@martinsoukup562lying about what
@@martinsoukup562 Lying about what?
@@robbertag808 PEDs
4:46 I run gear, not a crazy cycle. I only use test cyp and it's about 450 MG a week but that would put my test levels well above normal. Above the buff dudes, have been for a few years and I don't look as good as them. The effects are vastly over blown. Genetics still probably play the biggest role in bodybuilding
There's many studies showing that becoming a father triggers a significant drop in test' levels. It's believed it's because it helps us be more empathetic, caring, understanding etc and so become better parents.
This was also the first thing that came to my mind
It’s called getting older. 🤣
There's many studies showing anything and everything that the dogma of the self-proclaimed scientific community permits.
They also say being married drops testosterone levels. Lack of having to "compete" for sexual partners drops testosterone.
Maybe all the sleepless nights and stress also has something to do with it.
Great timing on the subject guys! I just tested 234 last week... it was fasted but i didnt realize i needed to test early in the day, so i tested after 4 in the afternoon. Im on the same journey to increase my T naturally. Will get tested again in a couple months.
Ive been watching yall for probably over 10 years at this point, and i still enjoy ythe content. Thanks!
5:59 everything in the green except your battery
batteries juicing
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a new vid from you guys always feels like an old friend. I'm so damn busy with the kids these days, wish you guys had a podcast lol. Cheers guys
Recently had my testosterone tested as well. I'm 46 and somewhat 'Jacked'. Never taken TRT or Steroids. My test is 277. I'm still able to gain muscle, and stay jacked. No need to get TRT...
I have very low test, but unable to build muscles
Yep 46 here, my test this year was 386 and my free was 67.2, I’m in good shape, feel good, and don’t want TRT either.
@@fahim454 Could be that you aren't eating enough calories & protein and going to the gym enough.
I love video updates of what you are doing and why, I loved your other videos like that
This vid is extra cool because you guys are not just jacked natties but also brothers, so shows us that even with extremely similar genetics, fitness etc testosterone can still vary a lot and still be at a healthy level
Spinach base meals with avocado. Incorporating those food choices into your fitness plan works like a charm for natural test boost 👍💪👍
Love to see the follow up after natural remedies. And what are the expectations of increasing the count
You guys inspired me to check my testosterone levels and also going to do your dumbbell and band workout. I will also check back in a few months you guys inspired me and hopefully build a better community of healthy men and women doing it naturally. #staybuff
Hudson I would highly recommend a recheck but having it within 3 hours of waking. Men go through almost sort of a “period” daily where they peak testosterone early in the morning and as they go through the day it decreases. This is why they prefer them as early as possible. If you were to check the level later (say 4) it would be even lower
I can't wait to see the next 3 months' training videos and the results video. Get in the work. And prioritize getting good sleep.
About 7 years ago I had my test levels measured. I was 273 at 26 years old. I always worked out but I was heavy with sleep apnea. A year ago I had it tested again. It was 563. The biggest difference for me was I lost 70lbs, and no longer have sleep apnea. You can increase your test levels naturally. You just have to find what is hampering you.
Sleep Apnea will definitely lower test levels... Good job brother...
Yeah bigger body mass actually dilutes your testosterone results. That is why free testosterone is the better test.
Thank you for the open conversations to chck your health coming from my family background this is such a suport to just be aware thank you.
That is hilarious. There’s no such thing as a lie detector test. They are only stress detector test. Either way, I appreciate the transparency and I hope to learn more about the subject in general.
What transparency?
Another great video! You both are doing a tremendous service in sharing this information and full transparency. Can't wait to see the follow up results!
These guys should do voice acting
These guys are so underrated. With the fitness sphere changing so much over the 12 years since they started, these two have remained so consistent.
Dudes, just showing total T isn’t enough. Free T is bio available, needs to be measured. If your SHBG is too high, it doesn’t matter what total number is…
One thing to note about the range you were given, that is going to be dependent on the lab that is actually doing the test. I've been getting mine measured every year for about a decade now. With the exception of the 2023 one, they were all done by the Mayo Clinic's lab which uses/used a 250-950ng/dL range. Last year's was done by CB - Labcorp Dublin in Dublin, OH. They use a 264-916ng/dL scale. My very first test had me well outside the normal range on the low side. Your average 85yo man had a higher level than mine came in at. I did the injections, administered by my PCP, which got me to just inside the normal range at 303. Last measurement was 927. The interesting thing was three years ago, it was 860ng/dL and two years ago it actually dropped to 697ng/dL. That timeline between those two tests matched when I cycled off a supplement and cycled back onto it between the 697 and 926 tests.
The irony of the fitness industry is that many of the influencers are on gear, body dismorphia has become a thing, gym users openly use drugs and think that it's ok because of social media outlets promoting this and nearly everyone is looking for the same jacked appearance. Single digit bodyfat takes a huge daily commitment and cycles must be maintained or increased depending on if you want to keep that physique.
Who is actually in this for the long-term? because that is actually where it's at. All imho...
I’m really excited to watch the new series Hudson! That’ll be super interesting to see how far you can take it naturally. But yeah- y’all’s hair is 🤌🏻 the locks must be on roids cause those hairlines are strong 🔥 hahaha
Avoid products with hormonal blockers, avoid things from plastic, avoid plastic tupperware, even worst heating plastic, avoid plastic bottles, while cooking use iron or wood tools. Trust me. It will help with the testostérone levels
This is a fantastic idea for a video series
i'm no medical doctor or psychiatrist/psychologist, but Hudson's low testo might be common among dads/happily married men. their psychological state is different than single men and that affects their hormones.
Great idea. Excited for the series!
I started TRT about 5 years ago...I was 247. The funny thing is, the averages have changed over the years. The average in the 1950s was a 1,000 - now it's 250-1100.
I'm at 1000 I don't think it's normal and having high test naturally also has Cons
Roid user
@@RKO1988 🤣
lads fair play to you , to many so called fitness influencers claiming to be natural . Delighted with them results keep the channel going , thanks very much for putting yourselfs out there
The total testosterone number isn't all that matters - one may have a high testosterone level, but also have a low sensitivity to testosterone, or have a low testosterone level, but also have a high sensitivity to testosterone...
Exactly what I said in a couple other comments. He may have a high androgen receptor count. He might just not need high total levels.
@@mikerude5073 Yep! In looking to improve our health, our testosterone levels may actually decrease, but it may also be the case that our sensitivity to testosterone increases - and there are no doubt other variables which come into play...
You two are just amazing. Thank you for all your hard work!
Some of my bros did steroids it does make people more angry and acne .
Looking forward to the series. I love how transparent and authentic you all have always seemed to be. Keep it up. More muscle, more testosterone. Medical testosterone treatment with a prescription is not a big deal - they keep it to a minimum. When middle age strikes and testosterone drops, you might definitely notice it emotionally - I did.
I competed in natural bodybuilding shows back in the 90s. They only did a lie detector test. I'm 6' and competed at a shredded 190 pounds. There were guys that were 6 foot 1 and 225 pounds shredded that got past the lie detector test. You could tell these guys were juiced. I couldn't compete against those guys. So I stopped competing altogether.
Must have been psychos or habitual liars.
@What-he5pr It was the only way these guys could win a show.. If they competed in the NPC against the juicers they would get smoked.
Very common. Even tested, they get off cycle to pass test. Sorry..hope you still lift. 👍🏽
@ukestudio3002 Yes, I still lift. I'm 54 and train with weights 4 days a week, HIIT training one day, steady state VO2 cardio one day, and rest one day.
Good episode. Stay clean!
Hudson only need that amount of testosterone to be this good and look that good? Damnnnnn
Yeah exactly, Brandon has generally good arm genetics, but the shape Hudson is in is absolutely crazy, given he has to put in that much more effort. Also ofc, test levels change after becoming a father, and in your mid 30s.
Keep in mind it was mid day, not morning, and he might have higher than average androgen receptors, thus not needing high total amounts.
@@Akshay_PJOthat's not how testosterone works. We don't know if he has to put in more work.
@@martinsoukup562 Fair enough, other factors also come into play, like androgen sensitivity.
Great idea for a series. One idea you should explore or have a guest to discuss: what is the impact of fatherhood on testosterone? Apparently fatherhood decreases testosterone a lot, and Hudson vs Brandon results would support that.
It also dips if your partner is pregnant (look out Hudson! )
Also, definitely get a whoop to help with sleep and recovery tracking. Seeing the impact that alcohol, caffeine and processed foods has definitely changed my habits. I still consume alcohol and coffee but try to be more thoughtful about when and how much
Fatherhood also decreases sleep, sometimes by a LOT, which is impactful on its own.
Everything green except the battery on the phone. Has the phone been juicing?
It is in fact running out of juice!
Brandon absorbed its power for extra testosterone.
One thing to Remember, Hudson has a Children. When men have kids, their testosterone does decrease and naturally they pack on body fat to prepare for the sleepless nights. It's Normal. As we get older our levels will decrease, so it's nothing to be afraid of
The drug testing at natural bodybuilding shows is a joke. If you're competing as an amateur you likely won't be tested at all. The pros do get random tests throughout the year and at the end of the show.
I feel you guys. My test was at 227. My doctor immediately put me on 1 ml of test every 10 days. It went up to 661 on my next test. My situation is a bit different though. I’m 5’10, 263 (I was at 283 when I started on it). My sex drive was low which is abnormal for me, I was tired all the time and my gym sessions were shit. I was flabby. There are definitely foods that can boost your test naturally. If you don’t like needles, there are test creams too. I’m getting checked again soon, and I want to try to get off the trt. I’m in the gym 4-5 days a week, and cleaning up my diet. Fingers crossed you can do it naturally Hudson. I still hate needles and I’ve been jabbing myself for the last 4 months.
1.) The reason Hudson's level was only 328 is (almost guaranteed) because he fasted for a longer period of time and the test was done later in the day. Repeat the test under the same time and conditions as Brandon and I'd be very surprised if Hudson's level wasn't right around 700
2.) Polygraph tests (lie detector tests) have been used for decades but are ultimately a pseudoscience. They have no scientific backing whatsoever. One person can lie through their teeth and pass just fine while another could tell the truth and fail the test. Polygraphs do not give consistent answers. They're only still in use because a majority of people don't know that they're a bunk pseudoscience.
I'll take that bet. His T levels are likely below 400 which is 95% of men today his age.
@@arthurfonzarelli9828 you're getting your stats straight from a steroid dealer, 95% of men are not below 400 ng/dl. The mean for 20-44 year olds is 466 so that means 50% of men in that age range are well above 466
I’d definitely watch your videos about natural testosterone rejuvenation. I’m 41 and have similar numbers and a decent but not perfect workout routine etc. been contemplating taking test boosters.
I hope this video inspires a lot of men. Jumping on TRT is a bandaid that doesn't address the root causes (stress, poor sleep, alcohol, shift work, no sunshine, etc.)
We all are getting older. Thanks for the topic. Looking forward for the updates. And more age/health related vidoes would be awesome.
it's always weird that people like plates think that a 6'1 person weighing about 220 has to be on gear. Looking at you guys its a very attainable physique. If you live the lifestyle
I think the thing is the lighting and photos and the way they're taken.
Like, you see a carefully shot photo or video that enhances their physique with good lighting and angles and it's like "no way those dudes are natty."
Then you see a more candid video and think "okay, yeah, great genetics and a ton of work, but that's achievable."
Didn't MPMD give Brandon a pass? I think I remember a video from Plates on him
@@markusrows1096he did. He said he didn’t see anything that would indicate steroid. Not that that is a perfect test obviously.
Scooby back in the day... like years and years ago... already pointed this out. For most people who have been lifting a long time you can achieve a decent level because of cumulative gains year after year. It's the really young guys who are already ripped and lean year-round who are sus.
“Very attainable” might be a stretch. Like I’ve always believed these guys are natural but they definitely have pretty high above average genetics, most people could never expect to achieve physiques similar to theirs, some even with PEDs.
I've been following you guys for years because you always act respectively and always fun and your videos always enjoyable, love how the transition into fatherhood and even showcasing injuries show a much more real side to many other fitness youtubers. You guys strive to live a healthy lifestyle and working out just to be "Buff Dudes"which is also my goal. Im also 39years old now and can definitely see as the age is getting along its becoming harder to train with your Testosterone lowering. Mine is also around Hudson's current level and can definitely feel its taking longer to heal, need more rest days, strength definitely effected as where I could easily bench press 160-200Kg's before I am now having to take that ligher due to feeling shoulder fatigue. Age and lowering of Testosterone definitely effected. I was also greeted with TRT sales speech and definitely considering it... But wife and myself want a kid so can't take that chance as of yet. May God Bless you gents. Thanks for videos
Last I check I was 250 to 300
Below 300 is considered too low depending on the scale. Speak to a doctor.
We also have to remember the difference in lifestyle they have. One has kids which generally ends up with lower quality of sleep as well as less sleep in general. Sleep has a HUGE effect on Test levels. While the other does not have children which most likely means he gets better quality sleep as well as longer sleep.
328 is still normal, especially for someone in their mid to late 30s. Test levels also naturally change when you become a father and you're deep into family life, something Brandon isn't into yet.
He should recheck his if/when he has a couple kids.
Children and family life can bring that T right down for anthropological reasons.
300’s absolutely is not normal for a healthy man in his 30’s. That range chart is for men 18 to like 80. He’s basically in the range of a 60 year old man. I’d like to see his free numbers though as that tells more.
I'm 39, and have a testosterone level of 703.
The total testosterone number isn't all that matters - one may have a high testosterone level, but also have a low sensitivity to testosterone, or have a low testosterone level, but also have a high sensitivity to testosterone.
@@TrueNewb It's completely fine. When I was about 28yo, single, and regularly weight training, I was around the low 400s. I was probably in the best shape that I had ever been in at the time. The only reason I got it checked was because I was curious from having watched a bunch of fitness UA-camrs talk about it, otherwise I had no abnormal drops in energy or performance deficiencies.
Obsessing over these numbers is a silly thing to do. He's very clearly not hypogonadal, so pointless to ruminate on getting to some arbitrary physiological "ideal."
These guys are wholesome.
Hudson I don't think ever used gear.
Brandon for sure had some juice back in the day.
Finally someone who is not completely gullible lol.
They’re both on gear. Look at their necks, unless they’re doing neck curls daily that’s from gear, period. They didn’t include LH and FSH in their blood tests which is literally the ONLY accurate way to confirm natty status. They’re trying to bait “natty or not” UA-camrs to respond for engagement, this test was as Mickey Mouse as it gets.
46 male. Worked out pretty hard for twenty years with moderate results due mostly to varying degrees of focus through those years. Was having some serious fatigue and mental issues so I got tested for all the hormones. Test came back 240’ish. Decided to try testosterone cream. Game changer. Immediately improved the quality of my life. I don’t care about the performance in the gym aspects as much as I do my family side. My 8 year old daughter tells people how daddy’s new medicine lets him play with her again. That’s the good stuff.
Hudson you're already in the age and have children, you 100% can apply for trt, and duke too of course.. that could be one hell of experiment with brandon being in the natural higher range.
My testosterone comes in at around 320. It has for the last couple of years and I am bigger and stronger than 99% of the population. Suffered a bad groin injury in 2020, it did not get addressed for nearly a year because of the pandemic. In that time, my T levels dropped to 176 where I experienced a lot of side effects associated with low. T. Never had to resort to hormone therapy. Sleep, basic nutrition, and consistent/frequent exercise did the trick to raise it by about 150 points. You’ll probably do better, seeing as my issue was caused by damage to the area and there’s only so much better it can get.
NattY? LOL🤣🤣🤣
My personal TRT journey. I was 25 and was struggling to go to the gym and when I did I would feel like crap, could never recover. Gained weight and felt generally like trash. Got up to 260lbs, mostly fat. I got my testosterone levels checked I was at 210ng/dl, which was under the range. But, I was DETERMINED to get those numbers up naturally.
I did everything the pamphlet and videos said. Ate more red meat, ate more cruciferous vegetables, got on a strict sleep schedule, did moderate intensity cardio, lifted weights, did nightly stretching, took Creatine and others supplements, I was beyond obsessed. I already didn't drink, smoke, or do drugs. But overall I really took a hard right turn to a better version of myself. Dropped 10lbs even. I was super stoked.
I went back to get my levels checked 3 months later. My test came back EVEN LOWER at 177ng/dl. At that point, I knew something was up and I started TRT. No shame in this, it's just a weekly injection and an estrogen blocker to help keep myself in balance.
Best. Decision. I. Ever. Made. My life is 10,000% better. My sex life is better with my wife, my attitude towards life is better, I'm 40lbs lighter, stronger than I've ever been, minimum 3 days per week in the gym lifting high intensity, my business is better, my relationships with people are better.
Don't feel ashamed if you need to get your levels up, follow the advice of your doctor and do your research. I love the buff dudes, however these guys have been natural their whole life and generally speak against it like it's a bad thing or something that should be avoided. But, I was 25, now 32, and it just was what I had to do to get through life and be a better version of myself. I would say we have a low testosterone problem in this country, we are showing the lowest testosterone levels ever in my generation and younger.
Hope this inspires others to get themselves checked.
Lot of “experts” says you shouldn’t take any estrogen blocker , my doc said I don’t need either , I don’t seem to dial in and it’s been 4 years
Love you guys but it’s clear you’re not lifetime naturals. Weird youre going this route now never really heard you bring it up like this before
Look at Brandon's face when Hudson claims natural for the both of them
Your both stupid, get some knowledge and experience. There are so many side effects for people that take steroids and the brothers don't exhibit any of them. These guys are simply the best in the fitness world show some respect.
It's crazy how far some people can go.
Excellent idea for a series of videos. Can't wait to see what happens.
As ever, great video. Love the honest, humble delivery. Yes, it would be lovely to be told you have a 1000 plus testosterone count, but I don't think you guys need to worry about the paperwork: you are, after all, the Buff Dudes.
I am a baby boomer, and have never worried about my testosterone levels. Of course, everyone tells you that it gets lower with age, and I won't argue with that. However, if you can still 'raise a shout', I'd say that's a pretty good indication that your testosterone levels are in the zone.
You guys are putting out some really good, relatable videos recently especially - thank you! I’m 5’9 at 185lb, been lifting for nearly 20 years fully natural - crazy to see what is possible if taking steroids, so the temptation is definitely there, especially for kids just starting out
For 20 years?! What are your 1 RPMs for the major lifts if you don't mind sharing? I'm basically the identical height and weight but only in at 7 years.
Looking forward to seeing how and if you can BUFF your own testosterone naturally through a healthier lifestyle and focusing on sleep, training, diet etc 💪
I didn't start TRT until I was 46 and it really did improve the regular stuff but the improvement to sleep quality really surprised me.
I'm not on it but I am 46 and can tell a major difference from early 40s.