I love you brother, but you are placing the human above the Lord. This shouldn't matter to us, we all know God created the world and everything in it. How or through what process is not necessary knowledge for us, nor does it state it in the Bible. Do not fall for Protestant fallacies, brother. I love you, but this is not a debate we should be having. God bless.
Even if we didn't know the revelation of God, we could still know Darwin's theory is impossible given that the evolutionary algorithm that perfectly models Darwin's theory is O(n!) which is literally as bad as Bogo sort which was an algorithm made as a joke only known for being a terrible sorting algorithm.
@IN-pr3lw I'm considering the Darwin theory as O(n!) because it's basically a random roll and hoping you land on one of the the few correct permutations that natural selection approves of and sticks. And with the more complicated the lifeform becomes, you are extremely less likely to land on a helpful permutation that benefits survival and reproduction with most complicated lifeforms only able to able to reroll once olever couple of years rather than millions of times a second like software.
If you are really serious about understanding origins of life, look at Nick Lane and Michael Levin. They don't quite get the embedded relationship between genetic information and bioelectricity. I'm trying to nudge the cutting edge of life science into a coherent synthesis. Biology is a 3D water-based computation system. Trying to shoehorn 3D genetics into a binary algorithm really doesn't mean anything. And as for "perfectly" modeling Darwin's theory, he himself didn't have the technology to see what he called "gemmules," but he did predict an EPIGENETIC mechanism for germline communication. That blows up the idea of ANY walk being random, because it is updated from generation to generation. Listen to Dennis Noble for subtle and actually intelligent evolutionary theory. His debate with Dawkins covers this explicitly.
@@siegeheavenly3601 Really, biology is a 2 dimensional thing like a Von Neumann computer? Maybe check my comments if you would like to know how a real gene drive would work. I do claim speciation because I understand my own machine code. What you call "god-like" appears as a talking yeast infection to me now. Homo Sapiens Sapiens is probably not smart enough to be called smart twice in the Latin name.
This is a futile argument to bare if you are Christian and truly Orthodox. We are called to know Who created the World and life - Our Lord did. How and through what process He did is beyond our knowledge, nor is it written in the Bible; as evem the Orthodox Church Fathers state Genesis has far deeper meaning than the surface level reading of the text - if you keep to the surface level, without studying the Bible or its context, you fall into the error of the Evangelical Protestants in the West, and loose layers of theology that you now neglect, leading to Protestantism. The truth is, we are not told in the Bible how or through what process God creates the world - that is not necessary knowledge, and us finding the basics is merely curiosity to explore the Creation. Many Christians who believe in evolution are known as "theistic evolutionists". With the exception of fundamentalists, Catholics generally view the theory of Evolution as compatible. Protestants do whatever nonsense they feel like doing, many becoming full Bible literalists, stripping the Bible off from all theology or historical context, neglecting the Church Fathers. Meanwhile, the Orthodox Church has no official stance on evolution. However those who are Orthodox often do, and in contrast to the other Churches, the EO Church generally takes a more rational stance: we put God first, and ask is evolution compatible? Most agree yes, these Orthodox theistic evolutionists are known as "compatibilists". Those who don't are known as "non-compatibilists". As Orthodox, we should not bother with neither. Our Church takes no official stance, thus we know the one truth: God created the world, and we know not how besides curiosity, we should focus on God - all that matters to us is that people know that God created the universe, both theistic evolutionists and Protestant YECs believe this. All else is a futile debate, against Orthodoxy, and you fail to focus on the Lord, preferring to argue with fellow Christians on matters that are up to God and shouldn't even concern us. God bless you all, and hopefully you focus on what matters.
Много тога су нас погрешно учили у школи . Између осталог и да је земља округла. А ко је добро читао свето писмо и како је БОГ све створио биће му јасно да је земља равна
@@iceycactus6815нису се бавили тиме. А од тога неће зависити Спасење. Али је добро знати да је у утроби земље на 50км пакао. И ту ће и остати кад ХРИСТОС дође други пут и створи нову земљу и Небо са душама спасених на Небесима. Праштајте. Све учим и сазнајем од паметнијих од мене којима због великих подвига и храброг исповедања Православне вере БОГ све тајне открива
@@iceycactus6815нису се бавили тиме. Од тога не зависи Спасење. Али је добро знати да је пакао у утроби земље на око 50 км и ту ће и остати кад ХРИСТОС дође други пут и створи нову земљу са душама спасених на Небесима. Праштајте . Увек учим од паметнијих од мене којима због њихових великих подвига за Христа и храбро исповедања Вере Православне БОГ СВЕТА ТРОЈИЦА открива тајне
Душице драге које коментаришете не би полемисала са вама једино би вас питала ако је земља округла где је онда пакао. Мени су свети људи подвижници за ХРИСТА и веру ПРАВОСЛАВНУ рекли да је пакао у утроби земље 50 километара у дубину и ту ће и остати кад ХРИСТОС дође други пут и створи ново Небо и земљу са душама спасених праведника. Праштајте и благословени да сте сада и заувек
Actually animals do copy other animals and learn even from their tools as well. We've seen birds use straws and sticks to lift objects and get food and drink, crows and finches being decent examples. Groups of birds even master their own 'local' skill-sets. Monkeys, and canines, DO use contemplation and reasoning AND values. Monkeys show an appreciation for fairness, and understand and punish/discourage deceitfulness. Orangutans and gorillas have even been shown to collect rocks to throw at daily threats (like people at zoos, or antelopes). It's like the person who MADE the video asked questions which actually have answers that are entirely unsupportive to their conclusion BUT thought that nobody'd check. please have your weak gods send better arguments.
Where does that appreciate for faithfulness and hatred of lawlessness come from? In that worldview, what faithfulness and lawlessness are simply your opinion because the entire game is the survival of the fittest.
@@Christisrisen37 No - the game isn't survival of the fittest. Nice to show us that you didn't get it. It's survival of the ones most fit for the niche at the time. The appreciation for such comes from it being advantageous to the societal animals. It's EXPRESSLY a prediction and a by necessity for evolution. Thanks.
@@Christisrisen37 Your gods are still dead it seems. Oh, argument from contingency literally makes everything 'existing' including a dead god, an evil god, a rabbit-costume-wearing god, a god that created the creator god too, a talking blade the killed the god before the creator god could exist even. ArgCont is really weak and not taken seriously.
they have placed the animal above the human
I love you brother, but you are placing the human above the Lord. This shouldn't matter to us, we all know God created the world and everything in it. How or through what process is not necessary knowledge for us, nor does it state it in the Bible. Do not fall for Protestant fallacies, brother. I love you, but this is not a debate we should be having. God bless.
Indeed ☦️
What AI voice program have you used?
Even if we didn't know the revelation of God, we could still know Darwin's theory is impossible given that the evolutionary algorithm that perfectly models Darwin's theory is O(n!) which is literally as bad as Bogo sort which was an algorithm made as a joke only known for being a terrible sorting algorithm.
although I agree with the video evolutionary algorithms usually are O(n^2) aren't they
@IN-pr3lw I'm considering the Darwin theory as O(n!) because it's basically a random roll and hoping you land on one of the the few correct permutations that natural selection approves of and sticks. And with the more complicated the lifeform becomes, you are extremely less likely to land on a helpful permutation that benefits survival and reproduction with most complicated lifeforms only able to able to reroll once olever couple of years rather than millions of times a second like software.
If you are really serious about understanding origins of life, look at Nick Lane and Michael Levin. They don't quite get the embedded relationship between genetic information and bioelectricity. I'm trying to nudge the cutting edge of life science into a coherent synthesis. Biology is a 3D water-based computation system. Trying to shoehorn 3D genetics into a binary algorithm really doesn't mean anything.
And as for "perfectly" modeling Darwin's theory, he himself didn't have the technology to see what he called "gemmules," but he did predict an EPIGENETIC mechanism for germline communication. That blows up the idea of ANY walk being random, because it is updated from generation to generation. Listen to Dennis Noble for subtle and actually intelligent evolutionary theory. His debate with Dawkins covers this explicitly.
@@dsm5d723 LOL, you can apply information and algorithm rules to systems of any information processing.
@@siegeheavenly3601 Really, biology is a 2 dimensional thing like a Von Neumann computer? Maybe check my comments if you would like to know how a real gene drive would work. I do claim speciation because I understand my own machine code. What you call "god-like" appears as a talking yeast infection to me now. Homo Sapiens Sapiens is probably not smart enough to be called smart twice in the Latin name.
Remind me of the Ship of Theseus Paradox in the future
Glory to God! From where is this Saint's writing?
It’s St. Nektarios of Aegina
@@holyresurrectionofchrist where can we find this particular writing?
@@holyresurrectionofchrist i know from who, it is written in the beginning of your video, but where can i read it?
@@yevod42 it’s from the monastery of St. Nektarios in Roscoe New York Greek Orthodox Church
@@holyresurrectionofchrist thank you very much, what is the book called?
I think it’s funny that all the comments are written slightly Midevil or fancy. The writing really puts you in that mood.
I just wish it was a real voice doing the narration and not one generated by AI. It’s very obvious that it’s an AI-generated voice.
☦
Someone tell this to the OCA.
Αμήν ❤
Amen. May our world be freed from deceptions of the Evil One and by the grace of God bear witness to the truth of Christ.
Пошто не објависте мој коментар ја се одјављујем са канала и желим вам свако добро од Господа Христа
То није до мене. Понекад Јутуб не објављује и моје коментаре
I noticed sometimes (or always?) UA-cam does not post comments that include external links.
This is a futile argument to bare if you are Christian and truly Orthodox. We are called to know Who created the World and life - Our Lord did. How and through what process He did is beyond our knowledge, nor is it written in the Bible; as evem the Orthodox Church Fathers state Genesis has far deeper meaning than the surface level reading of the text - if you keep to the surface level, without studying the Bible or its context, you fall into the error of the Evangelical Protestants in the West, and loose layers of theology that you now neglect, leading to Protestantism. The truth is, we are not told in the Bible how or through what process God creates the world - that is not necessary knowledge, and us finding the basics is merely curiosity to explore the Creation. Many Christians who believe in evolution are known as "theistic evolutionists". With the exception of fundamentalists, Catholics generally view the theory of Evolution as compatible. Protestants do whatever nonsense they feel like doing, many becoming full Bible literalists, stripping the Bible off from all theology or historical context, neglecting the Church Fathers. Meanwhile, the Orthodox Church has no official stance on evolution. However those who are Orthodox often do, and in contrast to the other Churches, the EO Church generally takes a more rational stance: we put God first, and ask is evolution compatible? Most agree yes, these Orthodox theistic evolutionists are known as "compatibilists". Those who don't are known as "non-compatibilists".
As Orthodox, we should not bother with neither. Our Church takes no official stance, thus we know the one truth: God created the world, and we know not how besides curiosity, we should focus on God - all that matters to us is that people know that God created the universe, both theistic evolutionists and Protestant YECs believe this. All else is a futile debate, against Orthodoxy, and you fail to focus on the Lord, preferring to argue with fellow Christians on matters that are up to God and shouldn't even concern us. God bless you all, and hopefully you focus on what matters.
I really enjoy your posts, but you pronounce God like Gad, almost. Sorry, just sayin'. Maybe it's your accent.
I understand
pretty sure its AI
@@markom.3784 I wouldn't have tho't of that. Could be, you never know.
Много тога су нас погрешно учили у школи . Између осталог и да је земља округла. А ко је добро читао свето писмо и како је БОГ све створио биће му јасно да је земља равна
@@brankastojadinovic2970 the apostles and Church father’s believed the earth was round. It was well established by then
@@iceycactus6815нису се бавили тиме. А од тога неће зависити Спасење. Али је добро знати да је у утроби земље на 50км пакао. И ту ће и остати кад ХРИСТОС дође други пут и створи нову земљу и Небо са душама спасених на Небесима. Праштајте. Све учим и сазнајем од паметнијих од мене којима због великих подвига и храброг исповедања Православне вере БОГ све тајне открива
@@iceycactus6815нису се бавили тиме. Од тога не зависи Спасење. Али је добро знати да је пакао у утроби земље на око 50 км и ту ће и остати кад ХРИСТОС дође други пут и створи нову земљу са душама спасених на Небесима. Праштајте . Увек учим од паметнијих од мене којима због њихових великих подвига за Христа и храбро исповедања Вере Православне БОГ СВЕТА ТРОЈИЦА открива тајне
St Basil the great mentions countless of times the roundness of the earth.
Душице драге које коментаришете не би полемисала са вама једино би вас питала ако је земља округла где је онда пакао. Мени су свети људи подвижници за ХРИСТА и веру ПРАВОСЛАВНУ рекли да је пакао у утроби земље 50 километара у дубину и ту ће и остати кад ХРИСТОС дође други пут и створи ново Небо и земљу са душама спасених праведника. Праштајте и благословени да сте сада и заувек
No?
Actually animals do copy other animals and learn even from their tools as well.
We've seen birds use straws and sticks to lift objects and get food and drink, crows and finches being decent examples. Groups of birds even master their own 'local' skill-sets.
Monkeys, and canines, DO use contemplation and reasoning AND values. Monkeys show an appreciation for fairness, and understand and punish/discourage deceitfulness. Orangutans and gorillas have even been shown to collect rocks to throw at daily threats (like people at zoos, or antelopes).
It's like the person who MADE the video asked questions which actually have answers that are entirely unsupportive to their conclusion BUT thought that nobody'd check.
please have your weak gods send better arguments.
He’s not a weak god buddy. He is risen☦️
Where does that appreciate for faithfulness and hatred of lawlessness come from? In that worldview, what faithfulness and lawlessness are simply your opinion because the entire game is the survival of the fittest.
Argument from contingency is literally the proof that God exists.
@@Christisrisen37 No - the game isn't survival of the fittest. Nice to show us that you didn't get it. It's survival of the ones most fit for the niche at the time.
The appreciation for such comes from it being advantageous to the societal animals. It's EXPRESSLY a prediction and a by necessity for evolution. Thanks.
@@Christisrisen37 Your gods are still dead it seems. Oh, argument from contingency literally makes everything 'existing' including a dead god, an evil god, a rabbit-costume-wearing god, a god that created the creator god too, a talking blade the killed the god before the creator god could exist even.
ArgCont is really weak and not taken seriously.