What are the demands of the Aurat March? Live with the Aurat March Organizers - TPE LIVE XII
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Great job shehzad. I'm so glad you gave them a platform to put their points. The points they put across were amazing. These girls are doing a tremendous job! More power to them!
Thank you!!
10:00 who consist of aurat march?
23:00 gains of aurat march
32:00 nature of aurat march, real aim of aurat march...
36:00 simpu shezad good point on " Why aurat march don't talk about this and that "
42:00 simpu shezad on chat gpt bot remedy for "What aboutery"
58:00 financial abuse on women in heigh income household
Thank you so much for this special podcast.
To be honest, due to propaganda against Aurat March on social media and mainstream media every year, I couldn't understand exactly what the Aurat March stands for.
I understood it today. You should invite them all time and again for such discussions because jitna zada ye baatein discuss hongi utna hi people will know the realistic side of women's struggles in our country.
All of them raised quite reasonable demands for all marginalized communities.
I just can't imagine how all these communities spend their lives on a day to day basis in this country.
My prayers for all of these communities and admiration for these organisers who have become their voice. ❤️
Thank you. This is exactly why we did this ❤❤❤
See now why can’t more Pakistani men be like Umer?
@@liliths_ because he's a moron who don't see the propaganda of these people
Thank you for this discussion.
Their talk is logical and direct about the problems facing women and marginalised communities.
Thank you for bringing their opinion to the forefront, more power to these women. My only regret is that I didn't help, when I was younger, not that I am old now. ♀️♥️
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As an Indian, being brought up among ladies at home ( mother, sisters) I've seen the problem women face in the world.
I owe most of my success to my mother and sisters.
If I had one power, I would have made menopause pain disappear from womens body.
May they prosper and take men like us under their wings.
" Wherever women are worshipped, respected divinity roams around those places".
😂😂 chootiya mat bana man hi man tu bhi ghar ki aurton ko parde main rakhna chata hai aur baaki sab ko nanga
And india main baap beti ka rape karta hai kya worship be
Finallyyy. I loved this so much! ❤️
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I find it baffling that people in Pakistan think Aurat March is superfluous. In a country that has some of the lowest human development indicators for women, you would think that people would rally behind the Aurat March.
So proud of you Shehzad! for doing this. This is exactly what we wanted for Women's day. Issue based discussion and not an ideology based one. 😃
Hindustan mai aurato ko zyada rights hai na verma ji?
@Yug Savla marginally better hai but the underlying chore issues discussed are same only.
@@yugsavla3872 Hindustan(diverse) is different than Pakistan, you can't merge India as one group on any issue.
South India, Sikkim, Northeast India, Goa, Ladhak cities like Ahemdabad(I've seen mother wid children eating street foods, moving around the cities, celebrating alone, even after midnight) etc are more women friendly in comparison to North Indian states.
Plus, you can say Pakistan==Punjab(54% of ppn)->every issues r quite similar for majority ppn+throughout the country.
On constitution n paper, India do have equal rights for women on same lvl as western countries(except on marital r@pe), have more safeguards than Pak, like anti domestic violence laws, equal inheritance law(only for Hindus, Indian muslims follow sharia under AIMPL), but on ground you can say North India is just Lil bit better than Pak, like you can see women driving 2 wheelers, car, going to pubs, clubs, see em wear Western clothes like jeans, skirts etc.. which I haven't seen in Pak(In vlogs, other videos) even in big cities like Lahore, Karachi...
Happy to see your efforts 😊
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"Fight for the rights" should never stop
Slaam!
Very informative, thanks.
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Hey Shehzad, I am your new subscriber from today. Before this video, I already watched two more podcasts. Shall definitely watch many more. I reckon that through your contents on various topics, I will be able to learn more about real Pakistan, for which I am very excited about 😇😇😇
Anyway, coming back to this Podcast, I am so glad to see these ladies speaking about rights of women and ppl from unorganised sectors. I just pray that these organisations get more support from like minded ppl of Pakistan. May they achieve their goals !
More Power to Women of India, Pakistan and the entire world.
Love From India 🧡🧡🧡
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I’m 25 minutes into this video and the only valid point I’ve heard is about domestic workers. Rest has been such a shallow conversation that it’s disappointing. If Aurat March is truly for right of women and real issues faced by them then the organisers have to do a much better job of communicating it to the masses. If the organiser is still going on about apna khana khud garam karo aur mein tou aise bethongi then they are doomed. Dowry, sexual harrassment, acid attacks, marital rape, lack of economic opportunities and forced marriages are some of real issues faced by a large number of women yet, Aurat March has failed to communicate that to the masses.
100 percent endorse it 💯
Rightly said
Thank you for saying this. I observed and made the same comment. The cause is valid but the communication was so poor.
An excellent discussion, thank you to the panellists for sharing their views, and to Shehzad for organising it, even though it wasn’t for free 😉
I live in the UK but have a special place in my heart for Aurat March and its organisers and supporters who have invested so much into this movement consistently for the last few years whilst facing so much criticism and hostility from different segments within the society. You are true champions! To be honest I would’ve liked to know more about the two march organisers, like who they are an what they do, unless of course they don’t want to disclose these details.
On the social security bit, I tend to agree more with Preh’s argument that instead of a benefit system across all social classes of women, there should be more encouragement on economic mobilisation of women as this will not only benefit them financially but also give them confidence, and of course the personal fulfilment that they are contributing to the society. A benefit system is not only too far-fetched in the current economic situation of the country but also keeps women dependent on the state if not on their husbands/fathers etc. So in my view perhaps a little bit of a shift is needed in the priorities. What I do admire of course is how open they are to have new ideas on board.
Lastly, do we feel that the Aurat March movement needs a leader or a public face, or is it deliberate that it should remain more of a public movement with no leader along with their team?
Thank you!!
It was very intresting I like preh's point of view
Genetically we south Asian are tolerant people
We have acceptance for diversity
It is our intrinsic quality which will ultimately prevail and we will move towards better future
Keep inviting these amazing ladies in next vdoz...plz
More power to these women
More power to these women.
financial abuse has really hit me hard.. I suffered through it until I made myself learn and start earning.
Good to see some women talking about women issues n representing the voice of women crushed by the feudal society n religious culture.
The female issues r so many so deep rooted n all around that i feel sometime slogans express it more profoundly then anything. Like:
WOMEN R HUMAN?
ALL Human Beings R Entitled to Fundamental Rights.
WOMEN TOO HAVE RIGHT TO:
CHOOSE
DECIDE
EXPRESS
GO OUT
EARN
ENJOY
DENY
LOVE
PROTECTION....
Shehzad bro.. which internet connection and zoom package do you use? It never seems to get stuck.
50mbps connection aur zoom.pro hay
Well great podcast shahzad we want more like these on Aurat march and feminism not only in once a year where there is more echo than words, it will be great if they talk more about the social issues and practical solution for that and pointing to all those baseless arguments (Khaana khud garam krlo, mera Jism meri marzi) like these things I don't think so will add value to it but rather more divides between those who really want to know more but can't go further because of these comments.
2. I love there socio economics points, especially the one organizer made like for all weather govt or establishment they should be questionable because these are the same things which the movements like PTM, jibran nasir, Muzammil shah and people like you raised and it will help women also as they are specifically demanding these rights for women because no movement get successful without the involvement of women into that so kudos to them.
3. It will be much better if they give more islamic touch to thoughts like these because there is nothing they asked about which is against Islam but the way they portray or just giving a general remarks may shift women or a non/less critical person towards more radical approach to the social life of married men or women.
Very good conversation beautiful womans and also woman rights
👍thanks from India 👍 For progress in any part of the region will make the whole region progressive
Let's compete in progress and happiness like European nations
If a mother in law or sister in law torturing a women mentally or treating her like their enemy
Is still it problem of patriarchy
Its the problem of awareness and education not being concerned of male gender
An illiterate women or men will behave the same , but these so called activists make slogans priority like lou baith gai sidha sa
Is it really even there in their top 10 problems
Women can also be patriarchal. It's not about the gender here. It is concerned with education, exposure and opportunities. Likewise men too can be liberal, supportive and feminist.
Great demand regarding categorising domestic workers as workers to have minimum wage legislation applicable to them. 13:56
Good job. More power to woman!
Hope women rights are a priority for the upcoming elections
You all are #ReMarkable from Peaceful "WE" I also for your plan of Peaceful Land 🔔
Completely agree with Preh memon, she's clear about what she wants out of the movement and also agree that demand for equal work opportunities, empowerment, financial mobility, are more effective and valid demands. I doubt I have ever seen social security really help anyone in getting on their feet.
I have a very strong belief in economic mobility being the solution to the empowerment problem and am generally averse to protectionism and subsidies. If asked personally, I would very seriously prioritise the former over the latter, and only allow the latter as a short-term measure for immediate relief. But yes I'm not a big fan of social security - perhaps only till the extent of access to quality healthcare and education since those are essential human-development items that are prerequisites for a productive workforce.
However, I understand where the organisers are coming from. And I think the most important part of this conversation is that we can disagree with respect.
@@prehmemon Agreed in that respect. Availability of a wide range of opportunities for learning and earning should be ideal.
However, it's a tall order without any real political power. I mean it's Pakistan frankly. Atleast, people are having this conversation right now. The challenge isn't just earmarking a budget for health care and education, but an effective allocation of resources under the right heads, and rationalization. No offense, but that kind of a coherent approach with clearly stated goals seems to be missing at the moment. It's understandable though, since the movement is still in a sort of revival phase. Even in management sciences more than 10 KPIs can be too cumbersome to manage at a time.
Protectitionist measures are usually insufficient to be any kind of alternative for income. Unless you're an advanced economy.
It's refreshing to see the scope of a diverse range of opinions and inclusivity though. Which I might add makes it even better than the western counterparts of the feminist movement. Keep it up.
I really love pakistani beauty ❤️
Such a relevant subject folks!
If you don't address from where it comes, this discussion becomes irrelevant.... isn't it??
Unless you address the fact that the male in Pakistan has a different set of rules for women since it is written in the quran how do you expect the majority of the male to acknowledge this so much relevant concern.
Without women involvement no country could become complete in any type of growth or progress.
Women are the SHAKTI symbol and the actual kinetic energy that creates( which is why they are the real instrument of creation for humanity as well)
Unless you first address- education, burqa, talaq, freedom of expression and other rules that are given in your religious book - there is not much hope
Yet it is very very important to have such marches probably almost every month to keep it more and more relevant and address the seriousness of this subject.
My solidarity to the women of Pakistan and would have loved to join this march to add my number to give the eye ball of t this making it one huge number march.
This should have the entire Pakistani women on the street to show the seriousness of the entire population of women to be on the street.
Unless you have a huge number of the lower strata of women in this march you are going nowhere...- sorry to say that ladies.
In fact you should have brought one of your maid servant and other lower strata women to this podcast to get the actual reflection of concern for this subject
All the best to the women in Pakistan... our heart goes out to all of you. 💕
Just adding a reference here. At 55:50, the comment about female economic employment boosting Pakistan’s GDP by 9%-23% is contingent on Pakistan closing the female employment gap relative to Low Middle Income Countries. The potential economic growth can be far greater if we look at a sample set of more developed economies.
This is from a World Bank report called Pakistan’s Country Economic Memorandum.
Thanks Preh!
Are there any side effects of feminism in subcontinent, why only rich feminist come on panel , why no poor feminist.
Aurat march nihayat he ghalat tareqay say start kya gya. Step by step chaltay to shaed kafi acceptance miljati pr inho nay direct feminism level 3 pay chalay gaya they were supposed to pritoritize politics too. Because femisists are not represinting it how it was supposed to be
Preh Memon articulated her arguments a bit better around the 56th minute! 😅
Excellent discussion
Just a little suggestion to these amazing ladies, could you please change the name of aurat March to women's March or mahila march or any other synonym , the meaning of the word aurat is degrading 😶
My expectation from this podcast was that the host would ask some tangible questions regarding the movement, their purpose and why there is so much of a ridicule out there regarding this movement, clearing out the myths. Unfortunately, it sounded like a mere random conversation involving the guests speaking on random topics without an anchor, devoid of a balanced discourse that help provide some spine to the issue at hand. The host should have at least challenged some of the points coming in from the guests but it rather seemed like a banner to promote.
Because we already did that last week:
ua-cam.com/users/live6oSIcsbr_pU?feature=share
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It's called " aurat " march now i want all of you to look up what it means 🤣
Very great podcast, but some points were invalid and I can argue on it.
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Viewers go for TBH too for enhancement.
Women and other marginalized groups are two completely different sections of the society. They need to be differentiated for betterment of each cause.
Both have the same enemy
@@Haris-gh1kn well I think the enemy approach is also kinda wrong. In case of women , we have different types of issues, for transgender different , for minorities, completely different.
Can you please ask these ladies what they pay their homeworkers?
Look at all the little boys getting their chaddies in a twist.
Saray chat mai thay 😅
@@ThePakistanExperience I don’t understand why they follow. Religion or conservatives do not interest me, so I don’t follow them. Would be quite dense if me to follow them and then complain about what they are talking about….
Cry louder and come back when you have got valid arguments. You guys talk so much yet say so little.
@@an_orange8911 you are the one who is crying. I just find it amusing how scared little boys like you are.
1) کمپنی بہادر کے بنائے مسلکی ملاووں اور انکے متاثرین سے تو اللہ ہمیں بھی پناہ دے۔
2) غامدی صاحب جیسے محقق کی رائے سے ہمیں یقین دلاو کہ یہ تمھارا سارا پروپیگنڈا شرعی حدود کے اندر ہے اور اسکی ضرورت ہے۔
3) نہیں تو اپنے مخالفین کی طرح تم لوگ بھی انتہا پسند بلکہ ایک قدم آگے بڑھے نفس پرست فسادی ہو۔
4) سارے سبز باغ اپنی جگہ پر بات سیدھی سی ہے،
"کی محمد(صل اللہ علیہ وسلم) سے وفا تو نے تو ہم تیرے ہیں
یہ جہاں چیز ہے کیا لوح و قلم تیرے ہیں" ۔۔۔۔ 🤔
Aurat march ek upper middle class ya elite class mai hota ha, wohi loog participate krtay ha or interested b wohi ha.
Pakistan mai sab sey pehlay grass root level pr kaam ho ga. Jis mai sab sey pehlay taleem or shaor dena ho ga. Agr aisa koi nahi krta or wohi politicians ki tarah ka rawaiya rakhta ha to change namumkin ha. Is ka koi faida nhai
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Aurat March ❤❤💓💓🙏🙏🙏
I stand with the women of this country, this world.
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It not about women it's really about western ideology of woke and LGBTQ. Do you want your wife Marry another woman or your son marry another man or your son become women by chopping off his dick.or live in old house at the end of your life.these are their agenda.
Not this again💀💀
Not you again 😜
While it is absolutely okay for Aurat March to protest on economic issues but the point one of the organisers made regarding men not feeling the burnt of economic turmoil isn’t very accurate. Men in Pakistan who are unable to earn a living for their families are equally, if not more, stressed then women. We are all in this together but giving it a aurat angle doesn’t make much sense.
In order to Legitimize their point they need anchors like this in their conversation. By anchor I mean topics out of context and irrelevant to their main point of discussion.
I don't think anyone made the point that men don't feel the brunt of economic turmoil
Is lying the only way pakistan men can victimise themselves?
@@ThePakistanExperience they made a point that women are more affected by it which I find to be untrue.
Also, I think you should have conducted the session to make it more informative.
I am tired of these red pill me always trying to tell women how and what they should feel or how and what they should do what they do. Go make your own podcast and cry me a river there.
Pakisthani women must be empowered to the level of International standard.
It is sad to know that only 10% of Pakisthani women engaged in some jobs or the other and rest 90% only bear babies and made subservient of men.
Why is that sad? You’d rather a woman serve a corporation that doesn’t care about anyone rather than serving her family. You have eyes but you do not see
shehzad bhai jin logo ko apne discussion pe bulaya hai , it's quite obvious kay wo bhi privileged background se hain
you can correct me if i am wrong , but a country where newly self made doctors and engineers who don't have a strong background and sifarish are working low income jobs like in the range of 40-50k , how can they pay 25k to their domestic worker ? even iska half kr lo , wo b nai kia ja skta , jaise inki discussion pe kuch bol do to ye khti hain females kay issues ka males ko kia pata , waise hi elites ko a kay middle aur lower class logon kay masail discuss krny ka b koi haq nai hai
that sums up the whole aurat march , it's been hijacked by bunch of elites just like the politicial parties and every other sector in this country.
Great idea to bring the organizers on the podcast. However, the communication strategy is so weak. The language they are using is only understandable to people who are already on board. They should have a few key talking points that we the listeners could use to disseminate the message further.
The style was defensive. They could have used an approach to educate people. The poverty angle is not unique to women, it’s a larger socio-economic issue.
They should have presented some key statistics to make their points. They could also have shared some key accomplishments since the March began.
I am a feminist and a supporter but the panel gave evidence that sounded anecdotal!
Shahzad tried but you girls did not make good use of the platform and the opportunity. Be better prepared next time please so you can slap any counter arguments with solid evidence.
You have great plans but explain how you are going to bring about these changes? Are you working on policy development? Are you raising awareness? Get a professional communication professional to help you out if you don’t have that expertise yourself.
A disappointed supporter! 😞
With respect, I'm not sure I agree with the comment about the style being defensive nor do I agree with the approach being non-educational. The podcast was titled "What are the demands of the Aurat March?" Many of the demands were clearly laid out - giving domestic staff 'worker' status, liveable wages for everyone, universal social security, and ending the thaikedaari system. And beyond that, they talked about evidence such as changes to essential legislation (such as the abolition of the 2 finger test, the Domestic Violence bill, and the Workplace Harassment Bill), economic mobility of the middle class and the potential boosting of GDP, ending gender-based violence and various other subjects. To be clear, statistics are used to support arguments - statistics are not the actual argument. So as far as the topic of the podcast goes, my personal view is that the key demands were clearly articulated. You can choose to agree or disagree with the demands but they were discussed in detail.
As for poverty being a larger socio-economic issue, sure. It is. But poverty is not equal - credible institutions such as McKinsey, Brookings and WEF (to name a few) have put out literature that confirms and explains how macroeconomic shocks have a seriously gendered impact and disproportionately disadvantage women and other marginalised groups systemically. Sharing some topics below which might make for good reading.
"COVID-19 and gender equality: Countering the regressive effects" - McKinsey
"Why has COVID-19 been especially harmful for working women?" - Brookings
"This is why women are bearing the brunt of the cost of living crisis, according to research" - World Economic Forum
"The Economic Crisis: The Impact on Women" - OECD USAID
"Inflation affects women more than men. Civil society can help" - World Economic Forum
@@prehmemon Thank you for taking the time to read and respond. When doing activism on something like women rights in a country like Pakistan, you need to be more succinct. Every opportunity you get to speak about it should help you get more allies. More people who listen to you should go away with a few points.
I am not saying you don’t have a worthy cause, I am saying you all did not do a good job of articulating it in a succinct manner. For example, when asked what are the accomplishments, the panel scrambled to come up with an answer. You came to the rescue after the tech glitch and provided some context.
My criticism was not on the March but how you missed the opportunity to articulate its purpose clearly, what you are doing about it, what is the end goal, what do you want the audience to do?
The way you listed the points in the reply should have been your talking points for the podcast. This is how you should have listed that we are fighting for 1,2,3. Our biggest problems are 1,2, and 3. This is how you can help us by doing the following. That’s it.
Towards the end, one of the panelists talked about the community work you all do. That should have been highlighted way early in the conversation.
Also when you came to the podcast, you should have given robust arguments for the common criticisms hurled at the women March.
Statistics are not an end in itself but they are powerful and extremely important in advocacy work. Your accomplishments should (no matter how small) should be on your fingertips). The girl who said she is 40 did mention some of the legislation passed in the past.
So the panel did answer some questions in a haphazard way but it could have been more structured and made better.
Criticism is not fun but please review mine and know it’s coming from a good place and from an ally. I hope you will be better prepared next time as people like me rely on you for knowledge and arguments.
@@prehmemon if you have an email, I am happy to share resources or volunteer.
@@kalsum77 I appreciate where you're coming from but to me it seems like at least part of your queries are linked to the format i.e. a conversational podcast. Typically, TPE podcasts are completely unscripted and it's kept that way to keep the conversation flowing freely. The only talking points that are relevant here are the demands of the Aurat March which came up one after the other in the discussion as it progressed. But Shehzad's podcasts have never been scripted one-on-one interviews so it's a little difficult to factor that criticism in. Not all questions are addressed by all talking formats.
The other part is the subject. Not all conversations about Aurat March are intended to address all criticisms about the Aurat March either. The subject of this particular podcast was "What are the demands of the Aurat March?" So long as that part was covered, any other conversation on ancillaries is just value addition in my view.
Having said that, I do think there is merit in your feedback being addressed in some other formats such as FAQ-type documents, published literature about successes, etc. Thank you for engaging!
I think Aurat March people should work on the availability of resources from Govt. side like they want to cut their spending where exactly and how much.
Where are the opportunities to work, across all the industry and where the population is? I am sorry to say
The problem they are talking about is common across men and women things can only improve if govt are efficient and objective in their short and long term objectives. Last thing this non binary term is absurd and absurdity has no limits.
Aurat March mein forced conversion ka mudda kyun nahi uthaya jata 🤔🤔
Uthaya jaata hai. Do come to the March and see what all they talk about.
What is khawaja sira?
Local term for trans individuals but way more all encompassing.
Intersex people who are "biologically" different than both male and female.
Acha orya maqbool jaisa b hain aik buht liberal aur civilized person usko satire karta aur baaki civilized logo has k us baat ko endorse kr raha
Waao hmain in jaisa logo ko seriously follow karna cahahiya ?
Orya ka satire karna haraam hay?
Wese idhar comment karne ka faida hai?
Will be taken positive?
More power to the ladies!
Totally waste of time. Which of us has not seen placards in aurat march Lahore? How vulgar slogans can support a noble cause? Why majority of women want to keep themselves at distance from this organisation?
And when I feel threatened for the moral and ethical education of my kids in this LGBT+ based crisis (I have 100% respect for people who are born with defect) then why I should not oppose the vulgarity at display in my society by any organisation? We all know the fate of Qum-Lut.
Yr ma bachpan sa paani ki bottle bhr ka la raha mera saath ghr waalou aur society
Meri maa (women)
Meri bhn (women)
Meri bowi ( women)
Na buht zulm kiya ab mujh parliament ma reserve seat milni cahahiya 🧑⚖️
Solution of women problems in Islamic countries - Hey Aurat ! just march away from Islam.
Chawlain maar rhi hain yh khoob. So admin you also join Aurat March.
9:48 🤣 Aurat march is made up of trans people non binary people Aurato khud ke pas prejudice hota hai in logo ke khilaf bolti hai mentally ill society ke liye bad influence
As long as you have Islam- you will have hunger and poverty.
Where are you living? In utopia?
the main question is, are their fancy words in this podcast resonate with what they do on streets in the guise of aurat march? no, its not... aurat march is a festival of privileged women where they come and spew venom on opposite gender, if you ask them about the problems of a common women, i am 100% sure that not even 10% would have answers... this is the main issue, if you are really serious about women rights, then fix aurat march and its toxicity... i am not against feminism, but i am in a war again toxic femininity....
PS, tum logon ko jeans pehenna hai ya kuch bhi nahi pehenna hai is ka mardon se kia talluq hai? ye to religion aur society decide karti hai... spain mai shalwar qameez pehen k ghoom k dikhao... jail hojaegi, log terroris samjhengy.. wahan ka culture alaga hai, isi tarha yahan nang pana karo gy to log aadi nahi hain.. wo awaz uthaengy... ya to declare karo tum logon ka na Islam se koi lena dena hai na yahan ki society se taky sab ko pata lagy fancy words k peechy ki kahani kia hai.... maqsad sirf women rights nahi hai...
She clearly mentioned LGBTQ community on their agenda.😢😢😢
@@azizulhaouqe4150 LGBTQ, non binary etc. ap jab bhi is se baat karo ye thory sach k sath zada jhoot mila k baat karty hain, domestic violence, equal pay, harassment, honor killing ye sab par feminism k mai bhi sath hun, lekin in ka maqsad ye nahi hai, may be 10% baqi agenda hi alag hai
@@umararshad2601bro write in English.i can understand Urdu speech not writing.
@@azizulhaouqe4150 they mix lies with facts... we are with them if they just want the rights for women, but its not their main agenda, being in a Muslim society, we have some obligations, and what they demand does not align with it, then they blame men for it... men are cruel to women in so many ways, that i accept, but the slogans and placards they use in Women March is disgusting and beneath humanity, worst form of vulgarity, hatred towards men and obscenity...
When you tell the truth everyone around you will envy you.
Theses clown laying about Bangladesh economic development.