It breaks my heart to know that a family seeking refuge in our country, a child seeking a fresh start in our society was subjected to such painful experiences. And her story is just one of the stories we know. I wish our society would have been better with her family and countless others who came and sought refuge here.
@@farayhaahmed7235 well compare that to if a white woman had taken refuge in Pakistan with her two teenage daughters, she would have recieved a lot of help. And Mathiras mothers family just abandoned them. Lanat ho aisee family per, jo apnay bachon kay saath aisa keray. Yeh jo maulvi kehtay hain hay khuda ka azaab araha hay Pakistan per, in hee harkatoon kee waja say araha hay, or is main maulvi tabqa (90%) shamil hay.
I don't understand the Malala hate. She got shot in the face at 16, IN THE FACE. She is living a very middle class life in England. Yeah she gets recognized (BECAUSE SHE GOT SHOT IN THE FACE BECAUSE SHE SAID GIRLS SHOULD ALSO GO TO SCHOOL). Its always these conspiracy theories that make no sense at all. She is being "funded" ?? By who ?? and for what ?? I mean what do people expect. A person should put their life in danger (by coming to Pakistan) to do what exactly ? To make you feel better ? For your feelings ? Your feelings are that important ? You feel hurt that people actually felt bad for her and helped her live a normal life, like billions of other people on this planet.
So many girls shot in that era everyone is here why she is the only one getting this treatment bro its not about malal it’s about what happened with and didn’t happened to others
I think what we forget when we see internet personalities is that everyone has had their own struggle. If we cancel anyone who doesn't align with our moral compass, then we miss out on such conversations where we find out that the person we may have it out for is someone speaking from their life experiences. We can't always see eye to eye, but there is always a conversational curve. Good on Mathira, and so glad Shehzad had her on the podcast. I've had a soft spot for her ever since I spoke to her, and I think it's obvious that she's quite remarkable in her own right
shehzad!! apki bardasht har insan main honi chahea, the way you counter your arguments is just amazing, rather than raising you voice despite knowing other person is talking problematic shit. Thank you for schooling her.
This channel is so under rated, and her story is so heart breaking. Thank you for bringing her on, although I had heard of her because of her one video clip 'aur aur aur' but that's all I knew. No judgements even then, but this is heart wrenching.
Shehzad, you did a great job on explaining her how patriarchal our society is. I felt she didn't understand it fully or wasn't ready to accept it. Maybe because she herself is a strong women and she dealt with patriarchy in her own way but most women are not like her and don't have enough opportunities. It was really sad that she kept on blaming moms on how they should raise kids, coming from a place where her own dad cheated on her mom and had affairs. I think most of her opinions are a perfect example of "abuse victims thinks its their fault" No hate or anything to her, she is a wonderful woman with a incredible journey.
I think she’s just staying consistent. She believes a mother is closer to her kids than a father so logically she should be responsible more than father for a child’s psychological development. You can disagree and say that both parents should be equally responsible and then you can make a different argument.
One could argue that Ghais was equally committed his ideological stance against 'the patriarchy', and wasn't ready to accept her viewpoint, which in her case was more an expression of her lived experiences. The whole 'Smash the Patriarchy' argument is coming to a turning point in the west with data from studies and psychologists coming round to saying "Hang, but the data/studies suggest this ....". Obviously, the social sciences are in the grip of ideologues who threaten scientists who do not conform, but with the turning point due, we can rely on Pakistani liberals to catch up in about 5 years time.
You cannot compare Malala with Mathira. The former almost lost her life for girls ‘ education. What has she done for girls’ education? There is no comparison. None at all. And she should not say outrageous things about Malala. She is just courting controversy. Good for her that she worked to take care of herself and her mom. But beyond that, there is no comparison and no one should.
At first I was very skeptical of this podcast but 17 minutes into a video and I think I was judging her from outside because She is so full of internailzed partiarchy which is so sad because she herself had to suffer so much through this patriarchal society. But everyone has their flaws anyhow she has a genuinely good personality Thankyou so much Shehzad for this
@@ThePakistanExperience I came here as a hater of MATHIRA, the person after watching the whole thing I don't hate HER but still hate her opinions but now I can somehow see where are these opinions coming from I wish someday she gets out of her trauma and opens her eyes to the truth I think she's a bit self centered and self righteous also
You won 10000 percent (if it's a thing) of my respect when you asked her why the whole blame is put on mothers than toxic fathers!👏👏🙌🏻 also the victim blaming part that you as a host stood up against🙌🏻 I always feel that just because I was able to do a few things doesn't mean that everyone else can too!
I'm not at all a misogynist but trust me i get the background of what Mathira was trying to say when she said Mothers have the power to bring the change. I totally agree. A man who hits his wife had a mother too. His mother had a mother too. So its a chain of women negligience on their selves as a society specially in Pakistan. In Pakistan as mostly men are the bread runners of the family, the fathers spend 60% of the day out of home earning but the mother has 90% of the time with them. Mother has a physical signalling with her kids the day the zygote formed in her womb. She know her kids more than a father, more than anyone else. She has to be alert and alarming of what her kids are and could be if not trained or tought well. Yes fathers do have a role in moral and mental upbringing but he looks more into practical world. He train kids about ho to be out of home and what is world like. A working/earning mother is an example for the son and a daughter that YES women can go out work and its normal and okay to do it and in that same house hold they also learn from the father that letting his wife work or study or anything is okay too. What (both) the kids learnt is how to make a progressive woman for the society. That damn first step Mathira took as a common woman was very hard on her. She is encauraging others my being an example herself Why stopping her to say what she experienced herself?? And in this modern day where coming out and calling her abusive men (who ever) out on media or public is easy than what it used to be 10 or 20 years back.
1:09:28 Shahzad, you are right in the sense that a woman can't just leave, there is societal constraints. But its not different from a kid being bullied, they know they should take a stand, fight back etc, they just don't have it in them. A few people from these victims are able to take a stand and leave, Mathira maybe one of them and it may have taken a lot for her to reach that stage. The state of mind is known as 'akrasia'. I am an intuitive therapist with a background in natural medicine. I get parents whose kid gets bullied in school. A week into treatment, they will calling to inform me the bully has been given a bloody nose. Someone stuck in an abusive relationship or a toxic job will walk out without overthinking of consequences and will make sure no one ever abuses them again or crosses their boundaries. This is a PRO BONO service and discreet, so if anyone you know is stuck in such a situation, at least they will be able to find that grit that would make them stop being passive and helpless.
LOL she wants Malala to be assassinated like Benazir?! This woman is a hater through and through. Hope she gets a real education. Maybe attend a school set up by Malala’s Foundation 😅
A man saying the same would surely have been the subject of a vicious social media campaign and rightly so but just because she’s a woman and a supposedly ‘bold’ one at that, she gets away Scot free? Admiring MTJ and trashing Malala? Oh Please!!!!What kind of equality and fairness is that? What are we teaching our young men and women?
I understand where she's coming from in regards to the role of a woman as a mom and a wife and a daughter! I learnt to stand up againt many men in my life because I learnt that from my mother, if she wouldve stayed quiet, so would I! I understand where she's coming from!
Sorry to say but she is horrible. At the start of the podcast she said aurat, aurat ki dushman hoti hai. She literally proved it. Her arguments are completely illogical and she is not spiritual. A spiritual person will never judge other people.
I believe, after watching her talk with shehzad, that she has mummy issues. Her blaming women for the crimes and wrongdoings they gave is deflection due to the fact that she most likely has issues with her own mother.
she needs to un-learn alot and then re-learn, she is giving the vibe of Morality Police in Pakistan, she said something problematic and when shehzad starts to school her she start to change the topic. she is mathira!!!
I am in awe of Mathura! She is just so clear hearted it shows through ! God bless her. Jab mawlvi qayamat mein aik doosre se bhir rahte honge, ye jannat mein araam se maza le rahi hongi
If Someone Hate Mathira I Don't Know Man How is Mentality Level Of Those People's My Opinion She Is Pure Human Being Now And I Like Her As A Muslim Person 🙂✌🏻
Mathira is talking about from a woman's perspective, and inherently, takes the precautionary route. that's why she saying the woman was wrong at the Minar-e-Pakistan's case. Shehzad is talking about an ideal state, which sounds amazing, but isn't practical.
Nadir Ali has very good sense of humor for pranks to cater that spectrum of viewers, but podcasts & intellectual discussion is a whole lot different ballgame and Nadir Ali should not, at least yet, call himself a podcaster because most of his discussion is also at the same intellect level to cater his pranks viewers.
“As I’ve tried to stress, at the heart of science is an essential balance between two ... attitudes-an openness to new ideas, no matter how bizarre or counterintuitive, and the most ruthlessly skeptical scrutiny of all ideas, old and new.” - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
Parent(s) or primary caregivers play an important role in a kids life. It doesn't have to do with genders or the amount (like many people have both sets of grandparents who also influence their life a lot) and the emotional or physical absence of a parent also plays an important role.
What an incredibly tone-deaf, cognitively dissonant, and deeply problematic reply to the Malala question... So disingenuous yaar... She's literally becoming the posterchild for everything that's wrong with pakistani "celebrities". Talking about Malala's dad "cashing in" to his daughter's tragedy... Sweety, you spent your entire life cashing in on whatever's hot, INCLUDING the islamic touch and Malala hatred... But appreciate you Shehzad for doing this, though. At least abh full extent pata chali trash-paney ki.
As an PhD engineer I feel The problem or a feature of tik tok is, it has a algorithm where every video has a huge chance to get viral without even having much relevance. It emphasizes young kid to just make videos without even having a good quality attractive content. Which leads to cheap and easy to make content. For example your walk video can’t be get viral easily on UA-cam but not the same case on TikTok. Therefore people make videos in front of trains, and jumping from heights etc.
Mathera is logical and pragmatic, I feel like host is ultra liberal and one sided. He isnt willing to see things from different perspectives to grasp a whole picture.
Shahzad bhai there was a full audio clip of that minar e pakiatan girl kis me wo bando se pese nikalwany ki batai kar rahi thi so us ko ap kese defend kary gy
@@ThePakistanExperience yes she has not but apko nai lagta k us ny use kia incident ko which is also wrong aur humy kya pata k kuch log planted b ho?? Ye to aik audio agai jis se kuch expose hui wo.
Haven’t checked it out yet, she’s been been on different podcasts recently, showing her unexplored side of personality which we weren’t able to gauge through her long standing career,, my bet is on this podcast to be the best of her already,,,let’s see :)
May be we are disagreeing, may be two year later we will arguing about opposite things , waoo this line is 😍🤗 it's ok to be disagree but we all still nice frndz🎉😃
Not every woman has the courage or support to walk out of an abusive relationship! Victim blaming. She's right, women are their own worst enemy. Just like she almost victim blamed.
What mathira's point is Yes father should participate in trabiyah of child but filhal Pakistan m ab tk ye riwaj ni hai aur abhi jo ye hum aurtain roads py un safe hain ye humary sy pichli nasal ki aurtain hi fuck up kr k gai hain Me as a mother i am teaching my sons to be a gentle human being If i got harassed on road i tell them see thats how i felt and thats pathetic to feel about Ap bary ho k kisi ko unsecure feel ni kryn gy They are 5 years old..
پاکستان میں جتنے لوگ بھی یوٹیوب پر podcast کرتے ہیں، اُن سب ہوسٹس میں سے spontaneity اور طنز و مزاح کےساتھ حاضر جوابی میں شہزاد کا جواب نہیں۔ شہزاد بھائی دوست ہونے کے ناطے متھیرا کے اوپر نظر رکھو یہ بہت جلد واعظ شروع کرنے والی ہے 😅
Engineer Mirza never said that in every Madrassa homo sexuality is happening. Instead he said, if one out twenty or thirty madrassa a case like this happen but it shouldn't insult the whole madrassa thing. He added yes it should be addressed openly so that can also be reduced to zero and decrease in the outside population too. Please don't take things out of context and research well before speaking on someone's behalf. This is second thing I have noted you saying on someone's behld which is completely out of context just because you didn't spent thorough time to listen to his complete video. Take a note here.
Great conversation. Loved the way that you presented the arguments patiently & rationally (never to normalise victim blaming & Minar-e-Pakistan conversation). I always believe that there are those light bulb moments that shapes a person’s thought process and once Mathira has those and she’ll back at this podcast will realise how everything makes sense.
Pehli larki dekhi Pakistan mein jo educated, brave, modern hai jo apni life k bare mein khul k bol ryi. Pakistani porn video dekhne mein duniya mein pehle number par hai lekin tv par sab molvi ban jate. J ladki sach to bol ryi hai or modern b hai
mere dost :) she said 100% right that aurat hi aurat ki dushman hai, shayad apne family system nae dekha, kese ek saas ek bahu ki position nae bardasht krti kese ek larki ko bully karne 10 hazaar larkia osko disown karti hai oske ek action se, or if you are muslim you have to understand this jese khuda ne bhi kaha hai k child ka first institution maa ki gaud hai or ye bth tb nazil hoi thi jab sirf mard hi hote thay aaj tu phir kuch awarness hai. tu aurat ki power ko ulta aap bohot halke mein lere ho yehi aurat hai jo laakho mardo ko dosri shaadi se roki wi hai yehi aurat hai jo ek mard ko pagal tk kardeti hai k oski shopping or oske desires nae hore hay, tu jab aurat apne par ati hai woh sub krsakti hai mard ko physically strong bohot banaya hai but aurat knows how to handle man. jese acha musalamaan banne k liye khud mein change krna hota hai. ya gurbat se nikalne k liye bhi har insaan ko apne andar change lana hota hai. khud hard work karna parhdta hai waha aap ye nae bologe, k fla fla akar nikalega wesi agar change aurto ko lana hau tu mard ka first institution jo hai woh onhi ko theek krna hoga.
“Science is constantly proved all the time. If we take ... any fiction, ... and destroyed it, ... that wouldn't come back just as it was. Whereas if we took every science book and every fact and destroyed them all, ... they'd all be back because all the same tests would [produce] the same result.” Ricky Gervais
Nothing more than what is in your Heart Dil Changa kathutee may Ganga Aurangez nay 5 Namaz nahi Chodee AUR koi Bhai bhe Nahi Choda (killed all Brothers and their male children hell aur heaven for him ???
@Shahzad: Yes, women should not be pointed at or held responsible for every mistake, but i think you are man-blaming everything on males a little too much. There are instances where a man is responsible and there are instances where a woman is responsible. She's right about sas-bahu banters ..never heard of a susar-bahu animosity as such. Also, to respond to your other opinion, HUM TV president is a female, look at the woman-beating content it shows, many female writers write such miserable female characters, dramas like kaisi teri khudgarzi & feroze khan type dramas, go see the comments there majority of women are commenting and drooling over the heroes' personalities, some even wishing a life partner like that.. So, the bottom line is, both are responsible ..you cannot just blame one to save another in my opinion. And bro. in kids & family planning.. this is not always the case, in a lot of cases it is the females who want more children than the man does .. i know for a fact because i've been through that :) you'll understand when you'll get married how those circumstances work ;)
She is so full of internailzed partiarchy which is so sad because she herself had to suffer so much through this patriarchal society. I wish you had confronted her about her views on Malala.
1:40:22 don’t know which truma go through in your past but you have to admit that Pakistani society (men and women) both are polluted here why you assume woman’s are clean in her character and all men are beast in Pakistan Mathira is absolutely right in her opinion, what’s your agenda? Why you are pressurised her to accept your opinion? Don’t know what’s wrong with you?
I had begun to like her a lot until she started with the victim blaming and the Malala jealousy. She, out of all people who’ve been through so much in her own life, is calling a victim a phony. 2 kaudi ke laundo ko “bhookhe sher” bolna is glorifying them and giving them exactly what they want. I think she has some narcissistic tendencies, that make her think that her battles are special, and hers alone are. Khair, I really appreciate the way the host remained calm and tried to put across his points and challenge her hypocrisy. Probably that’s the best way to change a rational person’s opinion and she does seem rational to me. If only she had met more people like that in life instead of the yes men, trying to impress her.
Glad she acknowledges that women are enemies of other women. I can see where her nasty comments about Malala are coming from. Lost respect for her when I saw that tweet.
App 99% sahi baat kr rhin hn.............. Bro grow up, give her your suggestion dont say k agla banda sahi a ya ghalat.... i am seeing how imature you are handling this
Don't agree with her that whoever smiles and makes eye contact is the one. Ted Bundy used to smile a lot. Introverts don't like looking into the eyes too much especially at the start of courting sometimes. Shehzad misguide na hona.
I think it was a right picture of how an average Pakistani thinks.also aurat e aurat ki dushman we can literally see it in her views about mothers. This was the most minimal knowledge podcast I’ve heard on this channel. 😢
I respect for both of you but some concepts of Islam are discussed very casually, some people may be Muslim and not practicing properly it has nothing to do with Islam. How Islam is taught at home and school matters, which I think is a common thing in our society. Further social media is open so what ever is said over there has nothing to do with Islam.
Shehzad 1:09:05 you are manipulated by librals or other kind of ideology patriarchy and matriarchy isn’t two different path mathira statements is right she is more struggled person than you she is more knowledgeable person then you
It breaks my heart to know that a family seeking refuge in our country, a child seeking a fresh start in our society was subjected to such painful experiences. And her story is just one of the stories we know. I wish our society would have been better with her family and countless others who came and sought refuge here.
She's from a refugee fam ?
And yet she behaves like someone suffering from Stockholm, excusing all wrong doings of the society by blaming its women.
Given that she had to flee Zimbabwe (she mentions in this podcast) with her family makes her a refugee of that time in pakistan
@@farayhaahmed7235 well compare that to if a white woman had taken refuge in Pakistan with her two teenage daughters, she would have recieved a lot of help. And Mathiras mothers family just abandoned them. Lanat ho aisee family per, jo apnay bachon kay saath aisa keray. Yeh jo maulvi kehtay hain hay khuda ka azaab araha hay Pakistan per, in hee harkatoon kee waja say araha hay, or is main maulvi tabqa (90%) shamil hay.
This is the most genuine conversation I watched on your YT Channel.
LOVED IT!
Proud to you my man to ask the question about Malala.
This was amazing Shehzad, the debating, the back and forth, love it.
I don't understand the Malala hate. She got shot in the face at 16, IN THE FACE. She is living a very middle class life in England. Yeah she gets recognized (BECAUSE SHE GOT SHOT IN THE FACE BECAUSE SHE SAID GIRLS SHOULD ALSO GO TO SCHOOL). Its always these conspiracy theories that make no sense at all. She is being "funded" ?? By who ?? and for what ?? I mean what do people expect. A person should put their life in danger (by coming to Pakistan) to do what exactly ? To make you feel better ? For your feelings ? Your feelings are that important ? You feel hurt that people actually felt bad for her and helped her live a normal life, like billions of other people on this planet.
Shhhhhhhhhhh
But she's supported LGBT is it good
Huh🥱
She right I don’t think she was a genius it was all her father so ambitious
So many girls shot in that era everyone is here why she is the only one getting this treatment bro its not about malal it’s about what happened with and didn’t happened to others
I JUST LOVE THIS GUY, we need more men like this in pakistan
I think what we forget when we see internet personalities is that everyone has had their own struggle. If we cancel anyone who doesn't align with our moral compass, then we miss out on such conversations where we find out that the person we may have it out for is someone speaking from their life experiences. We can't always see eye to eye, but there is always a conversational curve. Good on Mathira, and so glad Shehzad had her on the podcast. I've had a soft spot for her ever since I spoke to her, and I think it's obvious that she's quite remarkable in her own right
shehzad!! apki bardasht har insan main honi chahea, the way you counter your arguments is just amazing, rather than raising you voice despite knowing other person is talking problematic shit. Thank you for schooling her.
Shehzad is talking crap
This channel is so under rated, and her story is so heart breaking. Thank you for bringing her on, although I had heard of her because of her one video clip 'aur aur aur' but that's all I knew. No judgements even then, but this is heart wrenching.
Shehzad, you did a great job on explaining her how patriarchal our society is. I felt she didn't understand it fully or wasn't ready to accept it. Maybe because she herself is a strong women and she dealt with patriarchy in her own way but most women are not like her and don't have enough opportunities. It was really sad that she kept on blaming moms on how they should raise kids, coming from a place where her own dad cheated on her mom and had affairs. I think most of her opinions are a perfect example of "abuse victims thinks its their fault"
No hate or anything to her, she is a wonderful woman with a incredible journey.
I think she’s just staying consistent. She believes a mother is closer to her kids than a father so logically she should be responsible more than father for a child’s psychological development. You can disagree and say that both parents should be equally responsible and then you can make a different argument.
One could argue that Ghais was equally committed his ideological stance against 'the patriarchy', and wasn't ready to accept her viewpoint, which in her case was more an expression of her lived experiences. The whole 'Smash the Patriarchy' argument is coming to a turning point in the west with data from studies and psychologists coming round to saying "Hang, but the data/studies suggest this ....". Obviously, the social sciences are in the grip of ideologues who threaten scientists who do not conform, but with the turning point due, we can rely on Pakistani liberals to catch up in about 5 years time.
Esii Ka tha intzaar, Mazaa Aya , different opinions but good friends.. Loved to watch ❤️❤️
You cannot compare Malala with Mathira. The former almost lost her life for girls ‘ education. What has she done for girls’ education? There is no comparison. None at all. And she should not say outrageous things about Malala. She is just courting controversy.
Good for her that she worked to take care of herself and her mom. But beyond that, there is no comparison and no one should.
At first I was very skeptical of this podcast
but 17 minutes into a video
and I think I was judging her from outside because She is so full of internailzed partiarchy which is so sad because she herself had to suffer so much through this patriarchal society. But everyone has their flaws
anyhow she has a genuinely good personality
Thankyou so much Shehzad for this
@@ThePakistanExperience I came here as a hater of MATHIRA, the person
after watching the whole thing I don't hate HER but still hate her opinions
but now I can somehow see where are these opinions coming from I wish someday she gets out of her trauma and opens her eyes to the truth
I think she's a bit self centered and self righteous also
You won 10000 percent (if it's a thing) of my respect when you asked her why the whole blame is put on mothers than toxic fathers!👏👏🙌🏻 also the victim blaming part that you as a host stood up against🙌🏻
I always feel that just because I was able to do a few things doesn't mean that everyone else can too!
His patience was something...
I'm not at all a misogynist but trust me i get the background of what Mathira was trying to say when she said Mothers have the power to bring the change. I totally agree. A man who hits his wife had a mother too. His mother had a mother too. So its a chain of women negligience on their selves as a society specially in Pakistan. In Pakistan as mostly men are the bread runners of the family, the fathers spend 60% of the day out of home earning but the mother has 90% of the time with them. Mother has a physical signalling with her kids the day the zygote formed in her womb. She know her kids more than a father, more than anyone else. She has to be alert and alarming of what her kids are and could be if not trained or tought well. Yes fathers do have a role in moral and mental upbringing but he looks more into practical world. He train kids about ho to be out of home and what is world like. A working/earning mother is an example for the son and a daughter that YES women can go out work and its normal and okay to do it and in that same house hold they also learn from the father that letting his wife work or study or anything is okay too. What (both) the kids learnt is how to make a progressive woman for the society. That damn first step Mathira took as a common woman was very hard on her. She is encauraging others my being an example herself Why stopping her to say what she experienced herself??
And in this modern day where coming out and calling her abusive men (who ever) out on media or public is easy than what it used to be 10 or 20 years back.
She needs to have a UA-cam channel of her own.
She does have a youtube Chanel.
@@ZeeshaanBukhari22 link?
One of the best talk I listen tpe. It's changed my mind. The way I think see the picture.
Thanks too both .
1:09:28 Shahzad, you are right in the sense that a woman can't just leave, there is societal constraints. But its not different from a kid being bullied, they know they should take a stand, fight back etc, they just don't have it in them. A few people from these victims are able to take a stand and leave, Mathira maybe one of them and it may have taken a lot for her to reach that stage.
The state of mind is known as 'akrasia'. I am an intuitive therapist with a background in natural medicine. I get parents whose kid gets bullied in school. A week into treatment, they will calling to inform me the bully has been given a bloody nose. Someone stuck in an abusive relationship or a toxic job will walk out without overthinking of consequences and will make sure no one ever abuses them again or crosses their boundaries.
This is a PRO BONO service and discreet, so if anyone you know is stuck in such a situation, at least they will be able to find that grit that would make them stop being passive and helpless.
I love her,she is so sensitive.
LOL she wants Malala to be assassinated like Benazir?! This woman is a hater through and through. Hope she gets a real education. Maybe attend a school set up by Malala’s Foundation 😅
More than Mathira, I'm so impressed about Shehzad's point of view and thoughts on violence against women and patriarchy !
For someone so liberated in her lifestyle....she was fairly subdued in her views!!!!
But extremely wise!!
A man saying the same would surely have been the subject of a vicious social media campaign and rightly so but just because she’s a woman and a supposedly ‘bold’ one at that, she gets away Scot free? Admiring MTJ and trashing Malala? Oh Please!!!!What kind of equality and fairness is that? What are we teaching our young men and women?
I understand where she's coming from in regards to the role of a woman as a mom and a wife and a daughter! I learnt to stand up againt many men in my life because I learnt that from my mother, if she wouldve stayed quiet, so would I! I understand where she's coming from!
"Mathira" was an object for us, no doubt, but today i saw her as human what a powerful woman.
I m no one but i m really really proud on you dear shehzad....Khuda aapko meri Umar bhi de de....love you
For a woman who has gone through so much she sure seems to blame women for a lot of things. Wish strong women stood up with their gender. Sigh.
Honesty this is soo cool 😎 ❤ from 🇮🇳 haq hai Mathira jiyo ❤
Sorry to say but she is horrible. At the start of the podcast she said aurat, aurat ki dushman hoti hai. She literally proved it.
Her arguments are completely illogical and she is not spiritual. A spiritual person will never judge other people.
I believe, after watching her talk with shehzad, that she has mummy issues. Her blaming women for the crimes and wrongdoings they gave is deflection due to the fact that she most likely has issues with her own mother.
Mathira is one of the most fair, candid & honest ladies of our showbiz industry.
she needs to un-learn alot and then re-learn, she is giving the vibe of Morality Police in Pakistan, she said something problematic and when shehzad starts to school her she start to change the topic. she is mathira!!!
I am in awe of Mathura! She is just so clear hearted it shows through ! God bless her. Jab mawlvi qayamat mein aik doosre se bhir rahte honge, ye jannat mein araam se maza le rahi hongi
😊 Mathira
You rock
You shoot a straight arrow
❤
-a fan of Mathira from India 🇮🇳😊
If Someone Hate Mathira I Don't Know Man How is Mentality Level Of Those People's My Opinion She Is Pure Human Being Now And I Like Her As A Muslim Person 🙂✌🏻
Love you Mathira, bcoz you are the same inside out👍
Mathira is talking about from a woman's perspective, and inherently, takes the precautionary route. that's why she saying the woman was wrong at the Minar-e-Pakistan's case. Shehzad is talking about an ideal state, which sounds amazing, but isn't practical.
Nadir Ali has very good sense of humor for pranks to cater that spectrum of viewers, but podcasts & intellectual discussion is a whole lot different ballgame and Nadir Ali should not, at least yet, call himself a podcaster because most of his discussion is also at the same intellect level to cater his pranks viewers.
he has **a** sense of humor, it's not good, and that's clearly visable in his pocast with Mathira.
I think this is gonna be your most viewed Podcast 🤞
The only thing I don't like about your podcast is you don't let the guest talk if they have different views on any subject!
“As I’ve tried to stress, at the heart of science is an essential balance between two ... attitudes-an openness to new ideas, no matter how bizarre or counterintuitive, and the most ruthlessly skeptical scrutiny of all ideas, old and new.”
- Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
Watched this whole podcast for mathira❤❤❤
I love how shahzad just breaks into characters bech main.
Parent(s) or primary caregivers play an important role in a kids life. It doesn't have to do with genders or the amount (like many people have both sets of grandparents who also influence their life a lot) and the emotional or physical absence of a parent also plays an important role.
She is good human
What an incredibly tone-deaf, cognitively dissonant, and deeply problematic reply to the Malala question... So disingenuous yaar... She's literally becoming the posterchild for everything that's wrong with pakistani "celebrities". Talking about Malala's dad "cashing in" to his daughter's tragedy... Sweety, you spent your entire life cashing in on whatever's hot, INCLUDING the islamic touch and Malala hatred... But appreciate you Shehzad for doing this, though. At least abh full extent pata chali trash-paney ki.
Banda talking to you is also really great 👍 don't know his name or about him but his talking shows his mental level, nice person,no doubt,
Shehzad Ghias
Thank you
Big Fan Shehzad, Big Fan of yours!
Host's opinions about malala and minar e pak incident are commendable,guest needs to think and research well before passing such statements
IQ Level Alert: 0.00%
Love the look mathira
As an PhD engineer I feel The problem or a feature of tik tok is, it has a algorithm where every video has a huge chance to get viral without even having much relevance. It emphasizes young kid to just make videos without even having a good quality attractive content. Which leads to cheap and easy to make content. For example your walk video can’t be get viral easily on UA-cam but not the same case on TikTok. Therefore people make videos in front of trains, and jumping from heights etc.
What she said about minar e pakistan
Is wrong in so many levels
She is becaming the same aunty 🤣
Mathera is logical and pragmatic, I feel like host is ultra liberal and one sided. He isnt willing to see things from different perspectives to grasp a whole picture.
Totally agree with mathira's views on malala. The host is talking bullshit at many instances.
Shahzad bhai there was a full audio clip of that minar e pakiatan girl kis me wo bando se pese nikalwany ki batai kar rahi thi so us ko ap kese defend kary gy
@@ThePakistanExperience yes she has not but apko nai lagta k us ny use kia incident ko which is also wrong aur humy kya pata k kuch log planted b ho?? Ye to aik audio agai jis se kuch expose hui wo.
Bahr hal loved every podcast of urs, i may disagree with some of ur thoughts but i am learning from you everytime i watch the podcast.
Haven’t checked it out yet, she’s been been on different podcasts recently, showing her unexplored side of personality which we weren’t able to gauge through her long standing career,, my bet is on this podcast to be the best of her already,,,let’s see :)
Lol rmbr when she called out "malala" for marriage comments
‼️ I am surprised that she is bold and independent women still Mathira is clueless.
Mathira is going to be that mother in law she is talking about.
May be we are disagreeing, may be two year later we will arguing about opposite things , waoo this line is 😍🤗 it's ok to be disagree but we all still nice frndz🎉😃
Not every woman has the courage or support to walk out of an abusive relationship! Victim blaming. She's right, women are their own worst enemy. Just like she almost victim blamed.
I am fan of her for the ideology of her
You both are beautiful and smart
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What mathira's point is
Yes father should participate in trabiyah of child but filhal Pakistan m ab tk ye riwaj ni hai aur abhi jo ye hum aurtain roads py un safe hain ye humary sy pichli nasal ki aurtain hi fuck up kr k gai hain
Me as a mother i am teaching my sons to be a gentle human being
If i got harassed on road i tell them see thats how i felt and thats pathetic to feel about
Ap bary ho k kisi ko unsecure feel ni kryn gy
They are 5 years old..
She is quite sweet to be honest but in less open country
پاکستان میں جتنے لوگ بھی یوٹیوب پر podcast کرتے ہیں، اُن سب ہوسٹس میں سے spontaneity اور طنز و مزاح کےساتھ حاضر جوابی میں شہزاد کا جواب نہیں۔
شہزاد بھائی دوست ہونے کے ناطے متھیرا کے اوپر نظر رکھو یہ بہت جلد واعظ شروع کرنے والی ہے 😅
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Engineer Mirza never said that in every Madrassa homo sexuality is happening.
Instead he said, if one out twenty or thirty madrassa a case like this happen but it shouldn't insult the whole madrassa thing.
He added yes it should be addressed openly so that can also be reduced to zero and decrease in the outside population too.
Please don't take things out of context and research well before speaking on someone's behalf.
This is second thing I have noted you saying on someone's behld which is completely out of context just because you didn't spent thorough time to listen to his complete video. Take a note here.
@@ThePakistanExperience My comment is based on all of his videos on that specific topic. I did research thorough before commenting atleast.
In our society many people don't pay taxes but go for Ummra every year. isn't it ironic
موتی سمجھ کے شان کریمی نے چنُ لیۓ۔ قطرے جو تھے میرے عرق انفعا ل کے۔
Mathira you are a the best!
har statements were very problematic but she is the beautiful human being
@@ThePakistanExperience Great, we will always support you , keep doing this 💖💖💖
Great conversation.
Loved the way that you presented the arguments patiently & rationally (never to normalise victim blaming & Minar-e-Pakistan conversation). I always believe that there are those light bulb moments that shapes a person’s thought process and once Mathira has those and she’ll back at this podcast will realise how everything makes sense.
Mathira❤❤❤❤
"Asal harami tohh gore the" mind-blowing 😆😂
Pehli larki dekhi Pakistan mein jo educated, brave, modern hai jo apni life k bare mein khul k bol ryi. Pakistani porn video dekhne mein duniya mein pehle number par hai lekin tv par sab molvi ban jate. J ladki sach to bol ryi hai or modern b hai
2:14:50 🤦♂️🤦♂️ inka mtlb h ki Malala ko Goli markar usko activist bna diya Pakistan ne , great contribution of Islamic republic Pak
It is so interesting to hear the conversations you have with your guests. I listen to them over and over...😊
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she is biased against malala
mere dost :) she said 100% right that aurat hi aurat ki dushman hai, shayad apne family system nae dekha, kese ek saas ek bahu ki position nae bardasht krti kese ek larki ko bully karne 10 hazaar larkia osko disown karti hai oske ek action se, or if you are muslim you have to understand this jese khuda ne bhi kaha hai k child ka first institution maa ki gaud hai or ye bth tb nazil hoi thi jab sirf mard hi hote thay aaj tu phir kuch awarness hai. tu aurat ki power ko ulta aap bohot halke mein lere ho yehi aurat hai jo laakho mardo ko dosri shaadi se roki wi hai yehi aurat hai jo ek mard ko pagal tk kardeti hai k oski shopping or oske desires nae hore hay, tu jab aurat apne par ati hai woh sub krsakti hai mard ko physically strong bohot banaya hai but aurat knows how to handle man. jese acha musalamaan banne k liye khud mein change krna hota hai. ya gurbat se nikalne k liye bhi har insaan ko apne andar change lana hota hai. khud hard work karna parhdta hai waha aap ye nae bologe, k fla fla akar nikalega wesi agar change aurto ko lana hau tu mard ka first institution jo hai woh onhi ko theek krna hoga.
“Science is constantly proved all the time. If we take ... any fiction, ... and destroyed it, ... that wouldn't come back just as it was. Whereas if we took every science book and every fact and destroyed them all, ... they'd all be back because all the same tests would [produce] the same result.”
Ricky Gervais
Nothing more than what is in your Heart Dil Changa kathutee may Ganga Aurangez nay 5 Namaz nahi Chodee AUR koi Bhai bhe Nahi Choda (killed all Brothers and their male children hell aur heaven for him ???
Mathira is a queen.
@Shahzad:
Yes, women should not be pointed at or held responsible for every mistake, but i think you are man-blaming everything on males a little too much. There are instances where a man is responsible and there are instances where a woman is responsible.
She's right about sas-bahu banters ..never heard of a susar-bahu animosity as such.
Also, to respond to your other opinion,
HUM TV president is a female, look at the woman-beating content it shows, many female writers write such miserable female characters, dramas like kaisi teri khudgarzi & feroze khan type dramas, go see the comments there majority of women are commenting and drooling over the heroes' personalities, some even wishing a life partner like that..
So, the bottom line is, both are responsible ..you cannot just blame one to save another in my opinion.
And bro. in kids & family planning.. this is not always the case, in a lot of cases it is the females who want more children than the man does .. i know for a fact because i've been through that :) you'll understand when you'll get married how those circumstances work ;)
Dirty mind people labeled u but they are not labeled u they show him their personality background
She is so full of internailzed partiarchy which is so sad because she herself had to suffer so much through this patriarchal society.
I wish you had confronted her about her views on Malala.
1:40:22 don’t know which truma go through in your past but you have to admit that Pakistani society (men and women) both are polluted here why you assume woman’s are clean in her character and all men are beast in Pakistan Mathira is absolutely right in her opinion, what’s your agenda? Why you are pressurised her to accept your opinion? Don’t know what’s wrong with you?
jab kisi ko judge kerna kahi se bhi theek nhi tu dont create paradox.
I had begun to like her a lot until she started with the victim blaming and the Malala jealousy. She, out of all people who’ve been through so much in her own life, is calling a victim a phony. 2 kaudi ke laundo ko “bhookhe sher” bolna is glorifying them and giving them exactly what they want. I think she has some narcissistic tendencies, that make her think that her battles are special, and hers alone are.
Khair, I really appreciate the way the host remained calm and tried to put across his points and challenge her hypocrisy. Probably that’s the best way to change a rational person’s opinion and she does seem rational to me. If only she had met more people like that in life instead of the yes men, trying to impress her.
she is cute
Glad she acknowledges that women are enemies of other women. I can see where her nasty comments about Malala are coming from. Lost respect for her when I saw that tweet.
App 99% sahi baat kr rhin hn.............. Bro grow up, give her your suggestion dont say k agla banda sahi a ya ghalat.... i am seeing how imature you are handling this
Aur Aur Aur . . .
Don't agree with her that whoever smiles and makes eye contact is the one. Ted Bundy used to smile a lot. Introverts don't like looking into the eyes too much especially at the start of courting sometimes. Shehzad misguide na hona.
WAoooooOO YAR KYA BANDI HAI ,, Mathira ka ye b ek face h acha, best episode
I think it was a right picture of how an average Pakistani thinks.also aurat e aurat ki dushman we can literally see it in her views about mothers. This was the most minimal knowledge podcast I’ve heard on this channel. 😢
I respect for both of you but some concepts of Islam are discussed very casually, some people may be Muslim and not practicing properly it has nothing to do with Islam. How Islam is taught at home and school matters, which I think is a common thing in our society. Further social media is open so what ever is said over there has nothing to do with Islam.
don't care
@@aunthegeek5788 then do not, if you do not want to use your brain.
sahi li h mathira ne teri, 🤣
ye acha tha .. opposing views tu aye koi ... social issues are far more complicated than what the left and right want us to believe ..
Somehow I was really expecting an interesting interview but really disappointment with Mithra.
Shehzad 1:09:05 you are manipulated by librals or other kind of ideology patriarchy and matriarchy isn’t two different path mathira statements is right she is more struggled person than you she is more knowledgeable person then you