I wouldn’t be happy to repair anything that I purchased new, shows lack of after care taken for the product, this was a case of make it look good in the box not protect it in the box situation, a big no no and red a red flag, no corner should be cut when producing models at these prices, bent hand rails…… really thats a rookie mistake, probably happened in transit in the naff packaging, honestly these manufacturers need to be held responsible for their own decisions to either not quality check models before leaving to be shipped or to keep cutting manufacturers costs and ship in shoddy quality packaging, no excuses
You asked, Did you get carried with your review? No. I don’t think so at all. This is an absolutely spectacular model in just about every way as you so eloquently put in this fantastic video. Arguably the best model you can get!! So glad Dapol did such a variety of liveries as I am getting multiple, especially after your rave review! I really think other of the big manufacturers (Hornby, Bachmann) need to up their game…. This just proves there are no excuses on a multitude of levels. Great video as always! Thank you Sam. :)
I'd agree this is a very good looking model. But, towards the front of the engine on left side just below the hand rail isn't there a small chip in the paint?
Always happy to see dapol improving, from the days of engines that derail and can barely pull themselves along, to this, it’s lovely to see! Keep it up guys!
Amazing review as ever Sam! I took a big gamble pre-ordering one of these last year, making it the first ever model I had pre-ordered, but the gamble paid off! In the two days I've had it, it has already become one of my favourite in my fleet. Just an all-round exceptional piece of work from Dapol!
Great video Sam! I'm just starting to build my first model railway having rediscovered my childhood passion for locomotives. I had no idea which locomotive to purchase without breaking the bank. And then you came along with this fantastic in-depth review of this quality crafted little saddle tank from Dapol. I'm hoping to find one this weekend thanks to your recommendations. Your video was extremely helpful and keep it up!
I always wondered which version of the Hawthorn you would get Sam. That blue lined yellow is absolutely gorgeous Looks like you’ll be replacing your annual Peckett video with an annual Hawthorn Leslie video now 😂
After watching the Review i was actually stunned how much Dapol put love in this model. This is absolutly one of the top models alongside Rapido's Class J70 and others. Dapol set the level high in this, with this price in this hobby, i was blown away!
Excellent review! Given the fact that you are very strict, it is only logical you praise this model as much as it deserves to be praised. No arguing that at all. This loco indeed is a benchmark and for what I’ve seen in the video probably the best available in its scale, pricerange and type of loco. So well done! Greetings from Hekelingen, Holland. Bye, Willem.
This loco absolutely deserves the rave review you've given it Sam. I was blown away when I got mine as well. Everything about it, from the decoration to the performance is fantastic (Asbestos in the lined green is beautiful). Did you notice that the firebox looks like a dual tone flicker, its not just a steady light? Compared to my Rapido Hunslet its brighter at slow speed too. The named ones come with etched nameplates too. I'm pleased to say my one arrived without any damage or blemishes, although i would say the packaging makes it awkward if you need to put it away often. Really hope Dapol do more of this. Thanks for another great review Sam.
As an American, this model honestly almost makes me want to add some British locos and wagons to my layout. It's almost perfect. The detail and features are perfect for serious modelers, but the price is perfect for even beginners. It really is an almost perfect all-around model.
Small is beautiful... and in this case near perfection! Wonderful to see a little engine that ticks all the boxes model railroaders like and want. I want one. Thank you Dapol and thank you Sam for this very enthusiastic review... and I admit to share your feelings. Regards, Filip
Your selection of music is very timely for the loco you present, and I like that. The song, "By the Light of the Silvery Moon" was written by Edwards & Madden in 1909 and the Leslie Hawthorn was built around that same era. I don't know if you are just getting lucky or you plan these things out but it's brilliant. As for the locomotive, I was already blown away with the detail and then you hit use with the lit fire box, BOOM! You are on the mark with your assessment of this locomotive, and I may have had it score a half a star higher. Absolutely a great video, Jersey Bill
What a wonderful loco this is Sam. It just goes to show what can be achieved at such a reasonable price. This model should fly off the shelves, no problem. Best, Pete.
Curious about the "Wallaby" livery one - if its prototype actually is Australian it's not going to play completely nice with most Australian models, which are modelled in HO!
Many thanks Sam, a great review as always , very insightful, did you get carried away...maybe but only marginally, In my experience you have to say its better then the Peckett, but with my examples the Peckett has better livery and paint job, Dapol, has Firebox flicker, removable roof , easier dcc fitting. Details are very similar on both....get at least one from each manufacturer 😀 I'm going to be a little contentious possibly ? The Dapol is a fab model, and great value, but its running performance for me (under dcc) still can't quite match a W4 Peckett. For 2 reasons. Firstly this may be due to the dcc chip, The hornby chip in the W4 gives exemplary performance, I have a dapol imperium ordered to give the Hawthorn Leslie every chance, so this may change, but using a train o matic next18 currently can't matchup with crawl and general running smoothness. The 2nd performance observation is balance, Hornby Peckett has much better balance , the Dapol is tail heavy, so going through a curved point the rear wheel drops into the gap at the frog point, giving a noticeable lurch and 'clunk'..and lifts the opposite front wheel.The Hornby doesn't and travels over the space in the point on '3 wheels' way better, much less noise and lurch. So when running around a layout the Hornby still cuts the mustard.
+1 on that fantastic piping color. The detail on this unit are a very pleasing and impressive. In Macro, it's very good, but at arm's length it's simply amazing.
Wow. Someone doing small locomotives beautiful and sturdy. Usually manufacturers make tank or small diesel shunters as cheap as possible. Now I want something from Dapol into my collection :) Thank you for a fantastic rewview!
Absolutely - it's amazing to see Dapol give this one the love it deserves... and I hope they get lots of positive PR as a result, they deserve it! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
What an endearing model. It just shows what they really can do. Absolutely no corners were cut. It would be a godsend if Dapol made a new L&Y Pug too. Weren't they the ones that made the L&Y Pug tooling Hornby still uses? It really would be befitting if Dapol outdone their own tooling with a new version at long last and under their own name to boot. Still very impressive for when it was made but with today's tech they can go well beyond the old 80's tooling.
Great loco and a great review, it's so good to see a manufacturer go the extra mile to produce a quality model at a great price. Thanks Sam for all your hard work. God bless
I think it's safe to say you have a new benchmark 0-4-0, lol. Over here in the US, us railfans tend to associate the name "Leslie" more with the manufacturer of train horns here (The RS3L and RS5T were made by them, if you want a couple of examples). I will say though, the history of Hawthorn Leslie reminds me of the northeastern railroads. When Conrail was formed in 1976 by the federal government nationalizing the failing northeastern railroads, apparently they only bought-out the rail-related assets of the railroads in question. As such, the corporate portions of the railroads suddenly found themselves flush with cash, but without any railroads to run. As such, they put it into other things, like real estate. For example, IIRC, the Penn Central's corporate got into real estate investing (and is still around today, despite being bought-out), while the Reading Railroad got into owning movie theaters (and I believe has since been merged into another company).
Great review. I’ve got the exact same colour and am so impressed with the detail and quality. Problem now is trying to resist buying one of each colour to make a complete set
I bought the 'Asbestos' Hawthorn Leslie recently from Rails of Sheffield. A brilliant price of £99.95p + £4.00pp. However, they are selling all their stock with an extra 5% Discount over Christmas. WOW - incredible value. I have also got the same cable Magnet issue as you have. But I think that it is an intended design feature. I believe that one of the magnets is taller than the other one & is intended purely ar location into the hole in the underside of the roof. One Magnet being sufficient to hold the roof on! One feature you missed is - the flickering flame in the Firebox. Yes, it has also got firebox flicker!
Totally agree Sam! Superb. I went all in with DCC sound and very impressed with it. No damage on mine however, refitting the base is a faff, having to align loco, spacers base and screws. Might glue spacers to base to improve that bit. Otherwise perfect. Hope the my pre-ordered 14xx is at this standard. 😊
Thanks Sam for your 'as usual' unbiased, informative video. Magazine editors do really need to get their reviewers to write the truth instead of 'Excellent', 'Outstanding' 'Very Good' when there are obvious faults - but we must not upset the manufacturers must we? As far as this loco is concerned, it does seem like it is an excellent loco, as others have said Hornby and Bachmann need to up their game. 0-4-0. I'd have reservations about buying one as there are issues with short wheelbase locos when negotiating points. Running under DCC, if there's space for stay alive capacitors then slow running over points might be possible. It's good that there's a space for a speaker. Thanks once again Sam, keep up the good work.
haha thank you - absolutely! This performs remarkably well on points - and only stops on express ones at the slow speeds. For sure, with DCC and stayalive, it'd be perfect! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains What I find remarkable is the extraordinary slow running while carrying; gear meshing, motion AND a flywheel that can't "fly" which should also be holding back the motor at that speed. Must be down to an exceptional motor?
Great review Sam. Nailed it! So very well done Dapol. Interesting mix of technology with old school split chassis and DCC with some refinement. I do love the presentation base of transparent acrylic.
Several times lately, shortly after ordering a loco, and even before it arrives, (a week or more to the US) you have put out a new review, basically mashing the product, and making me wonder about my judgement, if any. Those reviews have helped me avoid disasters like the Fell, and stop others in time - the Hornby Black 5. Once again, I find my latest purchase is in transit, and ShaZam! there's another Sam review. Only this time, it looks like when the new baby arrives, I have a winner. You have made my day! I would suggest that the builders put keep-alives in 4 wheel locos, to reduce the points problem.
Great review. Great looking and running loco. Although from the states, I am happy because I believe Dapol manufactures domestically. It’s great to see.
Hi Sam, what a little beaut! Dapol are to be congratulated and I love em. Value, quality, fidelity. Wonderful features. I don't need one but I want. You could play with this all day on a shunting layout. Cheers as always.
Thanks David - you really could play with one all day on a shunting layout... makes a lot of the other 0-4-0s look like stubborn buggers! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Very good. Not bothered about sprung bumpers and to be realistic about firebox glow, door is closer when running! It's certainly up there with the Peckett and Andrew Barclay rather than being better. My 13sq ft layout is about 0-4-0 locos and it's good to have another one. DCC and live points of course!
Lovely little loco; on your recommendation, I now have the open back Henry, and will be getting the ModelU crew to populate and be illuminated by the firebox glow! Looking forward to this becoming the go-to shunter!
I can't wait to get my hands on one of these now. Was a bit hesitant before as I can't afford many new models nowadays, but this has absolutely moved up the list of upcoming purchases. Hopefully they have the livery I like in stock again by the time I get to snag one.
I think weve reached model nirvana having watched a load of your videos Sam this is the nearest to perfection so far. Was a genuine pleasure to watch and am sorely tempted to buy one as a result. The Dapol LSWR B4 is on my wishlist as well.
The Hawthorn Leslie locomotive from Dapol is a fantastic model because of the details and superb performance thanks to its quality mechanism. Plus, it is a reasonably priced model from both Dapol and the retailers Sam.
I treated myself to four of these beauties, including the exclusive version from Footplate. Really glad I did too, the detail is just amazing, especially for the price. And I love the acrylic plate, although not sure how well it'll work on a shelf as the screws aren't flush with the base of the plate. Shame about the roof with your one, all of mine were perfectly fine.
I love your reviews Sam, they’re absolutely how a review should be. However, when you find something you really like and are genuinely moved to happiness through that, it’s even better to watch. :) Brilliaht.
P.S. I have watched this review twice, it was that good, really enjoyable. Dapol have pulled off something really special here and I’d gamble that their margins on this - if any - are going to be extremely slim. Even if they break even, this will hopefully be a shot in the arm for Dapol as it shows just what they’re capable of. This is as good as anything from any other manufacturer at this point in time, to my eyes at least. I hope there’s much more to come from them in a similar vein. Bloody brilliant, ahem, excuse my Polynesian.
Mine arrived this morning - utterly amazing loco for the price. Even goes over my insulfrog points without any problem - I have a Bachmann 2.6.2T which can't manage that. Don't think twice, just buy it. Now Dapol, it's time for a Saint
I remember as a child of the 50's our local Couthaulds factory had 2 of these and we used to go and watch them working on their large industrial sight Claribel and Rosabell as I remember 1
Dapol did a fantastic job on this model Sam, it's miles better than the A1x terrier. I'll be getting the NCB version, and I can't wait for it to come in. Cheers Jasper & Willow
Hi Sam I bought a pair of these. The PLA and Invincible. When they arrived the regulator handle had fallen off one and one of the magnets had come off the roof of the other. Both issues easily fixed. Apart from that fantastic locos. The firebox flicker is controllable in DCC using F1. I'm sure you will be buying more as you get hooked ? Try Invincible it's beautiful in lined maroon.
Just found this ... *Watches video* Ye. Gods. It's Dapol's mic drop model. Not just "hold my beer", but "hold my entire brewery if you can". It truly is a miniature marvel. Now I want to see Dapol pull off the same finess with a Gresley Pacific - and if they undercut the big boys while doing so, this is going to be a maniacal cackling moment for me! Because the thought of Dapol building this level of finesse into a Flying Scotsman and banging it out the door for £170, say, is REALLY going to stick it to the competition. Even more of a "mic drop" moment than the fabled Accurascale Class 66? And in a tank engine a quarter of the size to boot? Head spin time. I know what's going to appear on any layout I build after I've moved house.
Received mine in USA on 7/9/24 via Rails of Sheffield. I was already aware of the fixing to the acetate sheet in a foam void...and I was worried.. I have had several diecast models with models fixed on a base, protected within a void.. At least two were completely destroyed in the mail. The problem is that packages are shaken in transit and in this type of packaging one is totally dependent on every single detail item separately fixed actually staying in place, and not just the two screws and spacers in the bottom. IMHO the model still has to be wrapped to support fixing points and avoid shaking damage. IMHO Rapido clamshell packaging is the best. Nevertheless, Dapol have chosen sturdy packing materials well, notably included metal (not plastic..) spacers under the loco. Unfortunately my roof arrived detached too. All parts were found but the roof has a slight imperfection to one edge, (perhaps during transit?). The magnets and the fantastic Port of London Authority brass plates were glued in place using E6000. It was a challenge to fix the manufacturer's plate the right side up though LOL. Definitely not a complaint, as these plates are fully finished with no "sprue" left on. They could have been an etched sheet for us to cut out! This model is awesome. The detail and finish are faultless. The boiler back head detail is amazing, and firebox flicker, a nice surprise on my model too... The price is fantastic. My example ran very well straight out of the box. FYI The instructions indicate that running in is not required. I would not be surprised to hear they are all already sold out. flic.kr/p/2q3ptFa
Super excellent review of the Dapol Hawthorn Leslie 0-4-0 saddle tank 👍 I myself was super impressed by the details & performance of the model loco, however I never thought that the packaging was updated let alone a first for OO that a plastic plate under the loco was used. I personally prefer staying with the plastic packaging instead as that won’t course worrying damage. However I send my back to Rails as the handrail was loosened and I want one in the same livery with out loose detail.
Thank you Joe - I think the clamshells work better too - but can't fault them for trying something different! That's fair - you don't have to settle for faults! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam, thank you for this review. What a great model ! Having waited so long, now I fear I have to order one. No need to worry about the colour as I have a soft spot for blue ones... Are you going to review the Bachmann Quarry Hunslet in 7mm NG soon ? Best wishes Dirk
Cracking review as always Sam but i wonder as a modeller and over 50 years of scratchbuilding etc' from OO to 5" live steam what would you like to see to get top marks lol
The history of how Hawthorne Leslie ended as a phone maker is uncannily similar to the eventual fate of the arguably largest US builder of industrial locos H.K. Porter Co. which still exists as a suppier of plumbing parts of all things...they built their last lococ in 1950, when the loco division was sole to Davenport in Iowa.
Well, I'd be darned. Finally, your review and honestly, nope, you are as impressed as I am. I didn't know they had a firebox light, something I only have one my Dublo Scotsman. I pre-ordered the Peckett in green, but it seems that this specific order is in great danger. I don't have a detailed tank engine yet with the exception of the Bachmann Jinty (kinda meh) and the 1F (pretty decent). I want a 0-4-0 just for the sake of it and this thing is mightily impressive. It would justify a higher price than Hornby's offering, but the fact that it's a touch cheaper is absolutely mindblowing. Well done Dapol, well done Sam. Just what I needed after a busy day. I may get this one or the green one with wasp stripes DCC sound fitted, to enhance the experience. Though it doesn't seem to have room for a stay alive, this thing may actually not need one it's this good.
Sam Great Revew on Great Model from Dapol i got a smile as i can't wait to see what your review on Hornby 70 Anniversary models will be...i think it will at the other end of the scale
Mr. Sam's trains finds himself the perfect locomotive? well he is at least completely over the builder's plate on this, very glad to see this is still even possible. It dose prove as said in video that when the loco maker wants to they CAN make things work great. (now it is possible that could be undercutting price offcourse but until i see any proof of that i will go under assumption that they are not trying to cripple themselves financialy). very glad things might be moving in good direction for the hobby.
haha it's the closest to perfect I've seen! You can really see the blood, sweat and tears in this loco... I hope Dapol are very proud! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
You could argue that you were a bit harsh when it came to the speaker not coming pre-fitted, as you didn’t have a problem with it, but this is just a gorgeous little tank engine. If I actually ran OO and owned a layout of some sort, I’d easily be scrambling to get one of these for myself.
Yeah very true - I've just knocked other models down for that in the past, so didn't want to be biased towards this one... it can afford to loose a star or two and still be top! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Well, exactly 43 minutes ago when I clicked on this video, I had never heard of this loco, or its Dapol model. I had no interest in a Hornby Peckett either. And now, I think I very much will be going out and buying one. Ive never seen something so beautifully crafted. It was the valve gear under the boiler and the smokebox light that made my jaw drop the most.
Hey Sam! Great review as always! It’s always fun seeing such a quality model up close! I wanted to mention something you might be interested in. Bachmann USA just released an update to their old USRA 0-6-0 steam switcher locomotive, updating it to DCC and including a lot of modern features that were missing on its older iterations. You reviewed their prairie before and rightly dragged it. The older 0-6-0s use the same base but this new one seemingly dosent reuse a lot of old tooling. It kinda surprised me on the store pages with how solid it looked. I was interested in maybe getting one but I’d like to know if they’re worth the money. Any interest in doing a review? It’s especially fascinating considering how old the model is but I was shocked by the size of the features list and the road name specific tool variations. Highly recommend taking a look!
I wouldn't fault the slightly bendy handrail. Industrial locos get banged around and so for all practicality, the handrail wouldn't be perfectly straight in reality. What I would fault is the gap inbetween the sections of the chimney, because that's a glaring, eye catching fault. We should praise the crankpins however, because while they dont look as good as Ultrascale, or Alan Gibson ones, they are far better than Hornby's large bolt heads. Also, the reason why the crosshead looks so good is because all of it is well cast to look imperfect, but those imperfections preserve verisimilitude to the look of a real cast crosshead. Id also say that the Hornby J36 put up an equal performance. Thanks as always Sam.
haha that's a good point - if it was heavily weathered then I'd agree with that... but it's pristine, so logically nothing should be bent up... that's my take anyway! Yes true - the chimney doesn't look as good up close - but I only noticed that when reviewing the footage afterwards. Love the crosshead - the best one I've seen I reckon! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Very nice indeed, take note Hornby the access to dcc fitting is very good, I just wish Dapol would put the same level of design in their class 73, thanks for sharing.
I got the Marston, Thompson and Evershed, as mentioned on one of your previous videos. If this makes you lost for words then the Marston Model will leave you speechless.
That title had me worried for a second. This is a perfect little tank engine. Dapol keeps on improving in OO scale.
Honestly, same. I heard great things about these, I was starting to question Sam's luck 😅
haha sorry about that - nope, it's wonderful!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrainsi feel like you have given other manufacturers models a harder time for turning up broken………#rosetintedglasses
@kanehood3478 you can forgive the model though for how good the rest of it is, also it was not too big of a deal In my eyes
I wouldn’t be happy to repair anything that I purchased new, shows lack of after care taken for the product, this was a case of make it look good in the box not protect it in the box situation, a big no no and red a red flag, no corner should be cut when producing models at these prices, bent hand rails…… really thats a rookie mistake, probably happened in transit in the naff packaging, honestly these manufacturers need to be held responsible for their own decisions to either not quality check models before leaving to be shipped or to keep cutting manufacturers costs and ship in shoddy quality packaging, no excuses
As an ex-Hawthorn Leslie engineer, this makes me feel so proud. What a little beauty! But, now living in Indonesia, owning one is just a pipe dream.
Thank you for sharing sir, I live in central Java, Indonesia, we do have museum steam engines but I never seen this in real one.
Time for a trip back to blighty for you methinks 😂
You asked, Did you get carried with your review? No. I don’t think so at all. This is an absolutely spectacular model in just about every way as you so eloquently put in this fantastic video. Arguably the best model you can get!! So glad Dapol did such a variety of liveries as I am getting multiple, especially after your rave review! I really think other of the big manufacturers (Hornby, Bachmann) need to up their game…. This just proves there are no excuses on a multitude of levels. Great video as always! Thank you Sam. :)
No they don't as new models from Hornby and Bachmann have been good.
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@@BoxtankEngine Says the one wanting the hobby to fail.
I'd agree this is a very good looking model. But, towards the front of the engine on left side just below the hand rail isn't there a small chip in the paint?
@@LNER985 Yeah on. Youll have to show me, when I said that. You are a hypocrit.
Always happy to see dapol improving, from the days of engines that derail and can barely pull themselves along, to this, it’s lovely to see! Keep it up guys!
Amazing review as ever Sam! I took a big gamble pre-ordering one of these last year, making it the first ever model I had pre-ordered, but the gamble paid off! In the two days I've had it, it has already become one of my favourite in my fleet. Just an all-round exceptional piece of work from Dapol!
Thanks a lot for sharing - glad to hear the gamble paid off for you haha!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great video Sam! I'm just starting to build my first model railway having rediscovered my childhood passion for locomotives. I had no idea which locomotive to purchase without breaking the bank. And then you came along with this fantastic in-depth review of this quality crafted little saddle tank from Dapol. I'm hoping to find one this weekend thanks to your recommendations. Your video was extremely helpful and keep it up!
I always wondered which version of the Hawthorn you would get Sam. That blue lined yellow is absolutely gorgeous
Looks like you’ll be replacing your annual Peckett video with an annual Hawthorn Leslie video now 😂
It really is isn't it? Just wondering what to get next!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Good lord man. If I was a UK modeler id go out and buy 10 of these as fast as possible. What an incredible model.
Hornby: *creates a lovely peckett*
Dapol: "thats cute... hey, check out my saddle tank!"
Hornby and literally everybody:
🤯😍
After watching the Review i was actually stunned how much Dapol put love in this model.
This is absolutly one of the top models alongside Rapido's Class J70 and others. Dapol set the level high in this, with this price in this hobby, i was blown away!
Excellent review! Given the fact that you are very strict, it is only logical you praise this model as much as it deserves to be praised. No arguing that at all. This loco indeed is a benchmark and for what I’ve seen in the video probably the best available in its scale, pricerange and type of loco. So well done! Greetings from Hekelingen, Holland. Bye, Willem.
This loco absolutely deserves the rave review you've given it Sam. I was blown away when I got mine as well. Everything about it, from the decoration to the performance is fantastic (Asbestos in the lined green is beautiful). Did you notice that the firebox looks like a dual tone flicker, its not just a steady light? Compared to my Rapido Hunslet its brighter at slow speed too.
The named ones come with etched nameplates too. I'm pleased to say my one arrived without any damage or blemishes, although i would say the packaging makes it awkward if you need to put it away often.
Really hope Dapol do more of this.
Thanks for another great review Sam.
As an American, this model honestly almost makes me want to add some British locos and wagons to my layout. It's almost perfect. The detail and features are perfect for serious modelers, but the price is perfect for even beginners. It really is an almost perfect all-around model.
Small is beautiful... and in this case near perfection! Wonderful to see a little engine that ticks all the boxes model railroaders like and want. I want one. Thank you Dapol and thank you Sam for this very enthusiastic review... and I admit to share your feelings. Regards, Filip
Your selection of music is very timely for the loco you present, and I like that. The song, "By the Light of the Silvery Moon" was written by Edwards & Madden in 1909 and the Leslie Hawthorn was built around that same era. I don't know if you are just getting lucky or you plan these things out but it's brilliant. As for the locomotive, I was already blown away with the detail and then you hit use with the lit fire box, BOOM! You are on the mark with your assessment of this locomotive, and I may have had it score a half a star higher. Absolutely a great video, Jersey Bill
What a wonderful loco this is Sam. It just goes to show what can be achieved at such a reasonable price. This model should fly off the shelves, no problem. Best, Pete.
Yeah you're right - it's quite stunning isn't it? I hope it does sell well for them!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Yep it looks terrific , performance brilliant , packed with features. , a delight! Well done Dapol
Like most here I find it stunning, industrials not my chosen scene but tempted by this
very nice...I reckon if you don't need sound then you could fit a suitable stay alive capacitor where the speaker would go
Curious about the "Wallaby" livery one - if its prototype actually is Australian it's not going to play completely nice with most Australian models, which are modelled in HO!
Many thanks Sam, a great review as always , very insightful, did you get carried away...maybe but only marginally, In my experience you have to say its better then the Peckett, but with my examples the Peckett has better livery and paint job, Dapol, has Firebox flicker, removable roof , easier dcc fitting. Details are very similar on both....get at least one from each manufacturer 😀
I'm going to be a little contentious possibly ? The Dapol is a fab model, and great value, but its running performance for me (under dcc) still can't quite match a W4 Peckett. For 2 reasons. Firstly this may be due to the dcc chip, The hornby chip in the W4 gives exemplary performance, I have a dapol imperium ordered to give the Hawthorn Leslie every chance, so this may change, but using a train o matic next18 currently can't matchup with crawl and general running smoothness.
The 2nd performance observation is balance, Hornby Peckett has much better balance , the Dapol is tail heavy, so going through a curved point the rear wheel drops into the gap at the frog point, giving a noticeable lurch and 'clunk'..and lifts the opposite front wheel.The Hornby doesn't and travels over the space in the point on '3 wheels' way better, much less noise and lurch. So when running around a layout the Hornby still cuts the mustard.
Bravo Dapol. What a beautiful, stunningly executed little engine.
+1 on that fantastic piping color. The detail on this unit are a very pleasing and impressive. In Macro, it's very good, but at arm's length it's simply amazing.
Absolutely - it's cracking isn't it?
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Wow. Someone doing small locomotives beautiful and sturdy. Usually manufacturers make tank or small diesel shunters as cheap as possible. Now I want something from Dapol into my collection :) Thank you for a fantastic rewview!
Absolutely - it's amazing to see Dapol give this one the love it deserves... and I hope they get lots of positive PR as a result, they deserve it!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
What an endearing model. It just shows what they really can do. Absolutely no corners were cut. It would be a godsend if Dapol made a new L&Y Pug too. Weren't they the ones that made the L&Y Pug tooling Hornby still uses? It really would be befitting if Dapol outdone their own tooling with a new version at long last and under their own name to boot. Still very impressive for when it was made but with today's tech they can go well beyond the old 80's tooling.
lol I thought I was seeing things, when it was going round the track, but now confirmed by you, it does have a fireboxglow!
Such an amazing product, Dapol should proud!
You didn't get carried away Sam, you just spilled out truth...
I hope Dapol are proud - and I hope they see this video!!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains
I SERIOUSLY DO ACTUALLY COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YA AS I SERIOUSLY COULDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE CLEARLY PUT IT BETTER MYSELF!
Wow.... I think this is the most excited I've seen you about a model in a very long time Sam. To be fair, it is quite a superb piece of kit.
First video I’ve seen of yours in a bit, and I have to say your videos are just as amazing as I remember!
Great loco and a great review, it's so good to see a manufacturer go the extra mile to produce a quality model at a great price. Thanks Sam for all your hard work. God bless
Thanks a lot Darren - going the extra mile is quite right!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I think it's safe to say you have a new benchmark 0-4-0, lol.
Over here in the US, us railfans tend to associate the name "Leslie" more with the manufacturer of train horns here (The RS3L and RS5T were made by them, if you want a couple of examples).
I will say though, the history of Hawthorn Leslie reminds me of the northeastern railroads. When Conrail was formed in 1976 by the federal government nationalizing the failing northeastern railroads, apparently they only bought-out the rail-related assets of the railroads in question. As such, the corporate portions of the railroads suddenly found themselves flush with cash, but without any railroads to run. As such, they put it into other things, like real estate. For example, IIRC, the Penn Central's corporate got into real estate investing (and is still around today, despite being bought-out), while the Reading Railroad got into owning movie theaters (and I believe has since been merged into another company).
Great review. I’ve got the exact same colour and am so impressed with the detail and quality. Problem now is trying to resist buying one of each colour to make a complete set
I bought the 'Asbestos' Hawthorn Leslie recently from Rails of Sheffield.
A brilliant price of £99.95p + £4.00pp.
However, they are selling all their stock with an extra 5% Discount over Christmas.
WOW - incredible value.
I have also got the same cable Magnet issue as you have.
But I think that it is an intended design feature.
I believe that one of the magnets is taller than the other one & is intended purely ar location into the hole in the underside of the roof.
One Magnet being sufficient to hold the roof on!
One feature you missed is - the flickering flame in the Firebox.
Yes, it has also got firebox flicker!
Totally agree Sam! Superb. I went all in with DCC sound and very impressed with it. No damage on mine however, refitting the base is a faff, having to align loco, spacers base and screws. Might glue spacers to base to improve that bit.
Otherwise perfect. Hope the my pre-ordered 14xx is at this standard. 😊
I too am speechless. If I wasn’t in the U.S. and waiting for my paycheck, I would buy one of these in a heartbeat.
Thanks Sam for your 'as usual' unbiased, informative video. Magazine editors do really need to get their reviewers to write the truth instead of 'Excellent', 'Outstanding' 'Very Good' when there are obvious faults - but we must not upset the manufacturers must we?
As far as this loco is concerned, it does seem like it is an excellent loco, as others have said Hornby and Bachmann need to up their game. 0-4-0. I'd have reservations about buying one as there are issues with short wheelbase locos when negotiating points. Running under DCC, if there's space for stay alive capacitors then slow running over points might be possible. It's good that there's a space for a speaker. Thanks once again Sam, keep up the good work.
haha thank you - absolutely! This performs remarkably well on points - and only stops on express ones at the slow speeds. For sure, with DCC and stayalive, it'd be perfect!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains What I find remarkable is the extraordinary slow running while carrying; gear meshing, motion AND a flywheel that can't "fly" which should also be holding back the motor at that speed. Must be down to an exceptional motor?
Great review Sam. Nailed it! So very well done Dapol. Interesting mix of technology with old school split chassis and DCC with some refinement. I do love the presentation base of transparent acrylic.
Several times lately, shortly after ordering a loco, and even before it arrives, (a week or more to the US) you have put out a new review, basically mashing the product, and making me wonder about my judgement, if any. Those reviews have helped me avoid disasters like the Fell, and stop others in time - the Hornby Black 5. Once again, I find my latest purchase is in transit, and ShaZam! there's another Sam review. Only this time, it looks like when the new baby arrives, I have a winner. You have made my day!
I would suggest that the builders put keep-alives in 4 wheel locos, to reduce the points problem.
Great review. Great looking and running loco. Although from the states, I am happy because I believe Dapol manufactures domestically. It’s great to see.
Hi Sam, what a little beaut! Dapol are to be congratulated and I love em. Value, quality, fidelity. Wonderful features. I don't need one but I want. You could play with this all day on a shunting layout. Cheers as always.
Thanks David - you really could play with one all day on a shunting layout... makes a lot of the other 0-4-0s look like stubborn buggers!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Yes. The fashion for Micro shunting layouts will not be harmed with this model LOL!
Very good. Not bothered about sprung bumpers and to be realistic about firebox glow, door is closer when running! It's certainly up there with the Peckett and Andrew Barclay rather than being better. My 13sq ft layout is about 0-4-0 locos and it's good to have another one. DCC and live points of course!
Lovely little loco; on your recommendation, I now have the open back Henry, and will be getting the ModelU crew to populate and be illuminated by the firebox glow!
Looking forward to this becoming the go-to shunter!
I can't wait to get my hands on one of these now. Was a bit hesitant before as I can't afford many new models nowadays, but this has absolutely moved up the list of upcoming purchases. Hopefully they have the livery I like in stock again by the time I get to snag one.
I think weve reached model nirvana having watched a load of your videos Sam this is the nearest to perfection so far. Was a genuine pleasure to watch and am sorely tempted to buy one as a result. The Dapol LSWR B4 is on my wishlist as well.
The Hawthorn Leslie locomotive from Dapol is a fantastic model because of the details and superb performance thanks to its quality mechanism. Plus, it is a reasonably priced model from both Dapol and the retailers Sam.
That's absolutely right - agreed!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I treated myself to four of these beauties, including the exclusive version from Footplate. Really glad I did too, the detail is just amazing, especially for the price. And I love the acrylic plate, although not sure how well it'll work on a shelf as the screws aren't flush with the base of the plate.
Shame about the roof with your one, all of mine were perfectly fine.
Just got mine (Wallaby) - I agree wholeheartedly, these are absolutely amazing! A must buy
I love your reviews Sam, they’re absolutely how a review should be. However, when you find something you really like and are genuinely moved to happiness through that, it’s even better to watch. :) Brilliaht.
P.S. I have watched this review twice, it was that good, really enjoyable. Dapol have pulled off something really special here and I’d gamble that their margins on this - if any - are going to be extremely slim. Even if they break even, this will hopefully be a shot in the arm for Dapol as it shows just what they’re capable of. This is as good as anything from any other manufacturer at this point in time, to my eyes at least. I hope there’s much more to come from them in a similar vein. Bloody brilliant, ahem, excuse my Polynesian.
Mine arrived this morning - utterly amazing loco for the price. Even goes over my insulfrog points without any problem - I have a Bachmann 2.6.2T which can't manage that.
Don't think twice, just buy it. Now Dapol, it's time for a Saint
The number and builder's plates are a nice tuch! I like the livery! Shame about the magnets coming adrift in transit!
I remember as a child of the 50's our local Couthaulds factory had 2 of these and we used to go and watch them working on their large industrial sight Claribel and Rosabell as I remember 1
I heartedly concur with your ratings. Mine arrived last week, also the PLA version, and it’s every bit as good as you say. Good times!
I have already got one which is fantastic, absolutely love it runs to perfection😊
My loco arrived a few days ago ,but I have have not had time free to run it in yet.
I'm very glad to see this review, I chose the PLA version too.
Dapol did a fantastic job on this model Sam, it's miles better than the A1x terrier. I'll be getting the NCB version, and I can't wait for it to come in.
Cheers Jasper & Willow
Yes I think it's much better than the Terrier too - sounds fantastic, hope you enjoy the NCB one :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I bought one just now, Sam you're a terrible influence 😅
Only joking, thoroughly enjoyed this review, can't wait to run this in 😁
Awwwww gawd blimey, just ordered same Loco with decoder! Watching this channel Sam is fatal!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 excellent review geezer!
Hi Sam I bought a pair of these. The PLA and Invincible. When they arrived the regulator handle had fallen off one and one of the magnets had come off the roof of the other. Both issues easily fixed. Apart from that fantastic locos. The firebox flicker is controllable in DCC using F1. I'm sure you will be buying more as you get hooked ? Try Invincible it's beautiful in lined maroon.
Saw your review and ordered!! Bet they go fast. Usually go for WR but never mind that. NCB were everywhere in the day.
Looks and runs awesome ..I'm saving for this I need a good little steam engine ..thanks for the review Sam ...
Fantastic Simon, hope you really enjoy it if you decide to go for one!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I absolutely love this model Sam. I'll be getting one of these for sure.
Cheers Jasper & Willow
I love it too - I'd highly recommend it! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
What a superb model! So much detail, so much wonderful painting and lining.😃
Just found this ...
*Watches video*
Ye. Gods.
It's Dapol's mic drop model.
Not just "hold my beer", but "hold my entire brewery if you can".
It truly is a miniature marvel.
Now I want to see Dapol pull off the same finess with a Gresley Pacific - and if they undercut the big boys while doing so, this is going to be a maniacal cackling moment for me! Because the thought of Dapol building this level of finesse into a Flying Scotsman and banging it out the door for £170, say, is REALLY going to stick it to the competition.
Even more of a "mic drop" moment than the fabled Accurascale Class 66? And in a tank engine a quarter of the size to boot? Head spin time.
I know what's going to appear on any layout I build after I've moved house.
Great review Sam! I'm in need of an 0-4-0t in my fleet. Once I can allocate money to model trains again I think this will be the one to pick up.
Top quality little model 😎 The usual superb review. Just remember, "objective", not "gushing" for science. Nice one Sam, very entertaining 😃
haha thank you! Always striving to be objective... but sometimes the gushing will gush!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Many thanks. I would not have considered buying this without your review. I know I can trust you. Found a Wallaby version. I'm in Oz!
Just bought one before the review had even finished, was holding off but this tipped me.
Great review Sam . I am tempted to purchase one myself now. I use electro frog Peco points so slow running should be ok. Thank you
I'm tempted to get the Wallaby livery. Though, Australian freight wagons in OO don't really exist.
That’s the same livery I went with, although mine had its roof on.
Received mine in USA on 7/9/24 via Rails of Sheffield. I was already aware of the fixing to the acetate sheet in a foam void...and I was worried..
I have had several diecast models with models fixed on a base, protected within a void.. At least two were completely destroyed in the mail.
The problem is that packages are shaken in transit and in this type of packaging one is totally dependent on every single detail item separately fixed actually staying in place, and not just the two screws and spacers in the bottom. IMHO the model still has to be wrapped to support fixing points and avoid shaking damage. IMHO Rapido clamshell packaging is the best.
Nevertheless, Dapol have chosen sturdy packing materials well, notably included metal (not plastic..) spacers under the loco.
Unfortunately my roof arrived detached too. All parts were found but the roof has a slight imperfection to one edge, (perhaps during transit?).
The magnets and the fantastic Port of London Authority brass plates were glued in place using E6000. It was a challenge to fix the manufacturer's plate the right side up though LOL.
Definitely not a complaint, as these plates are fully finished with no "sprue" left on. They could have been an etched sheet for us to cut out!
This model is awesome. The detail and finish are faultless. The boiler back head detail is amazing, and firebox flicker, a nice surprise on my model too... The price is fantastic.
My example ran very well straight out of the box. FYI The instructions indicate that running in is not required. I would not be surprised to hear they are all already sold out.
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Super excellent review of the Dapol Hawthorn Leslie 0-4-0 saddle tank 👍
I myself was super impressed by the details & performance of the model loco, however I never thought that the packaging was updated let alone a first for OO that a plastic plate under the loco was used. I personally prefer staying with the plastic packaging instead as that won’t course worrying damage.
However I send my back to Rails as the handrail was loosened and I want one in the same livery with out loose detail.
Thank you Joe - I think the clamshells work better too - but can't fault them for trying something different! That's fair - you don't have to settle for faults!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I love my Peckett but this is something else. Beautiful. Thanks Sam
I got the Footplate of Kidderminster exclusive and love the model, will definitely look into getting another
Ooh fantastic - glad to hear you like yours too!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I have Marston, Thompson & Evershed Ltd -no.3 as my second one on order and if they get discounted I would pick up Asbestos
I know they’re not the same class but yet they still remind me of a pair of yellow tank engines.
Sam, thank you for this review.
What a great model !
Having waited so long, now I fear I have to order one.
No need to worry about the colour as I have a soft spot for blue ones...
Are you going to review the Bachmann Quarry Hunslet in 7mm NG soon ?
Best wishes
Dirk
Is it "Day - poll"? Or is it "Dapple"?? I never heard it called Dapple by anyone else. Blank stares then laughter at my model train supplier!! 😅😂😊
Cracking review as always Sam but i wonder as a modeller and over 50 years of scratchbuilding etc' from OO to 5" live steam what would you like to see to get top marks lol
dapol, rapido & accurascale are my top 3 manufactures as i'm alway happy with what i buy from them
I went with the same livery, Sam. An amazing loco, probably the best tank engine I own, and I still think really highly of my Hattons GWR Barclay.
Ahh great minds think alike! Yes the Barclay is wonderful too... but I think this beats it!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I've been away for a while. Looks like I picked a good video to come back on! Still a wonderful channel!
Wow!!! Great video Sam! I think I might pick one up!
I think this is the best Loco you have reviewed in a long time.....
I think so too - wonderful indeed!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Dapol have produced some real quality recently, need to get some dapol locos
Thanks for review Sam ,what a loco ,& value for money compared to Hornby & Heljan . I will be buying at least 2 .Thanks Sam .😊
The history of how Hawthorne Leslie ended as a phone maker is uncannily similar to the eventual fate of the arguably largest US builder of industrial locos H.K. Porter Co. which still exists as a suppier of plumbing parts of all things...they built their last lococ in 1950, when the loco division was sole to Davenport in Iowa.
Well, I'd be darned. Finally, your review and honestly, nope, you are as impressed as I am. I didn't know they had a firebox light, something I only have one my Dublo Scotsman. I pre-ordered the Peckett in green, but it seems that this specific order is in great danger. I don't have a detailed tank engine yet with the exception of the Bachmann Jinty (kinda meh) and the 1F (pretty decent). I want a 0-4-0 just for the sake of it and this thing is mightily impressive. It would justify a higher price than Hornby's offering, but the fact that it's a touch cheaper is absolutely mindblowing. Well done Dapol, well done Sam. Just what I needed after a busy day. I may get this one or the green one with wasp stripes DCC sound fitted, to enhance the experience. Though it doesn't seem to have room for a stay alive, this thing may actually not need one it's this good.
Sam Great Revew on Great Model from Dapol i got a smile as i can't wait to see what your review on Hornby 70 Anniversary models will be...i think it will at the other end of the scale
Mr. Sam's trains finds himself the perfect locomotive?
well he is at least completely over the builder's plate on this, very glad to see this is still even possible.
It dose prove as said in video that when the loco maker wants to they CAN make things work great. (now it is possible that could be undercutting price offcourse but until i see any proof of that i will go under assumption that they are not trying to cripple themselves financialy).
very glad things might be moving in good direction for the hobby.
haha it's the closest to perfect I've seen! You can really see the blood, sweat and tears in this loco... I hope Dapol are very proud!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I was lucky to preorder mine when it was first announced. Back then it was priced at just under a hundred pound
Was thinking about buying the Invincible version of this. You have now convinced me. Order placed!
You could argue that you were a bit harsh when it came to the speaker not coming pre-fitted, as you didn’t have a problem with it, but this is just a gorgeous little tank engine. If I actually ran OO and owned a layout of some sort, I’d easily be scrambling to get one of these for myself.
Yeah very true - I've just knocked other models down for that in the past, so didn't want to be biased towards this one... it can afford to loose a star or two and still be top!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Another review of a loco I now want to buy. A stunning model
Well, exactly 43 minutes ago when I clicked on this video, I had never heard of this loco, or its Dapol model. I had no interest in a Hornby Peckett either.
And now, I think I very much will be going out and buying one. Ive never seen something so beautifully crafted. It was the valve gear under the boiler and the smokebox light that made my jaw drop the most.
Same here and I’m not even a OO modeller. Just purchased it anyway. 😅
Hey Sam! Great review as always! It’s always fun seeing such a quality model up close!
I wanted to mention something you might be interested in. Bachmann USA just released an update to their old USRA 0-6-0 steam switcher locomotive, updating it to DCC and including a lot of modern features that were missing on its older iterations. You reviewed their prairie before and rightly dragged it. The older 0-6-0s use the same base but this new one seemingly dosent reuse a lot of old tooling. It kinda surprised me on the store pages with how solid it looked. I was interested in maybe getting one but I’d like to know if they’re worth the money.
Any interest in doing a review? It’s especially fascinating considering how old the model is but I was shocked by the size of the features list and the road name specific tool variations. Highly recommend taking a look!
I wouldn't fault the slightly bendy handrail. Industrial locos get banged around and so for all practicality, the handrail wouldn't be perfectly straight in reality. What I would fault is the gap inbetween the sections of the chimney, because that's a glaring, eye catching fault. We should praise the crankpins however, because while they dont look as good as Ultrascale, or Alan Gibson ones, they are far better than Hornby's large bolt heads. Also, the reason why the crosshead looks so good is because all of it is well cast to look imperfect, but those imperfections preserve verisimilitude to the look of a real cast crosshead. Id also say that the Hornby J36 put up an equal performance. Thanks as always Sam.
haha that's a good point - if it was heavily weathered then I'd agree with that... but it's pristine, so logically nothing should be bent up... that's my take anyway! Yes true - the chimney doesn't look as good up close - but I only noticed that when reviewing the footage afterwards. Love the crosshead - the best one I've seen I reckon!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Very nice indeed, take note Hornby the access to dcc fitting is very good, I just wish Dapol would put the same level of design in their class 73, thanks for sharing.
I got the Marston, Thompson and Evershed, as mentioned on one of your previous videos.
If this makes you lost for words then the Marston Model will leave you speechless.
Ahh lovely - is that so? Might have to give that a try!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I agree - the paint finish and nameplates are superb.
Amazing video today Sam what a beautiful locomotive I really wanna get one wasn’t expecting the fire box flicker
Thanks a lot James - me neither - a final surprise!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)