Baldwin Locomotive company was no stranger to exporting their locomotives to the UK and Europe. The Lynton and Barnstaple had their locomotive Lyn, Narrow gauge 10-12 locomotives and the USA tanks. During WW1 Baldwin locomotives worked narrow gauge railways behind the front lines, moving anything and everything. I've got one of these tanks and it's such a fun addition to my collection.
As a kid in Southampton I remember these, particularly running between the old and new docks past the Royal Pier. I ordered one in BR green as soon as Model Rail announced them and when it eventually arrived ran it happily for a couple of years before I switched gauge to N. It now lives in happy retirement with a lot of other locos and stock that remind me of my childhood in display cases in front of my desk. As someone else mentions, it would be great to have this in N.
It's a great looking model, and a good review. The original Frank S Ross on the LMR was NOT fitted with brake pipes etc, there's a picture on the web if you search. So the model should not have these if it's going to be authentic. These were designed as shunting engines to move unfitted stock around the yard so no purpose in fitting vacuum or air brakes or steam heat. That engine was scrapped in 1958, having been hardly used since new. The current engine painted as Frank S Ross in LMR livery on the Kent and East Sussex Railway was actually SR 30070 which was never at the LMR. It went from shunting at Southampton to Departmental Stock at Ashford, then for scrap but got diverted to the KESR where it laid unused for half a century until restored about 2016. It's a fine looking engine, and can storm up the steep Tenterden Bank with 5 Mk.1's and still have steam to spare, making a fine noise! Worth going to see. It has a different coal bunker (up to roof top level) and detail differences to the cab, as well as brake pipes front and rear. There are probably many other small differences because it was built by Vulcan, whereas the original Frank S Ross was built by Davenport. Here's a fun fact; the only reason we have no less than 4 of these preserved, from the original class of 15 bought by the SR, is because of a design fault. The bearing area in the axle-boxes is a bit too small, they are ok for running around a yard but if you take one on a long trip at speed, the 'boxes overheat. When BR decided to scrap the last 4 from Ashford departmental stock, they started on the trip to Woodham's at Barry but only got as far as Tonbridge before they ran hot boxes so they were dumped in the yard there. They remained forgotten there for about 6 months, and whilst there came to the attention of preservationists, and all four got bought. How lucky is that? Without that design fault, we would not have any left. I think they are fine engines, I got to work maintaining the Bluebell's one many years ago and also got to drive one of the Yugoslavian copies, they have plenty of pulling power but due to the short wheelbase (a foot shorter than an Austerity tank) they have an odd "waddling" motion at speed on straight track. Hope this helps. Marion
One of these has been cast as “Thomas”, which is quite powerful and can handle a train of 4 to 6 American cars. The US Army Transportation Corps ran a few Ft. Eustis, Virginia during open house events and they were fun to watch in action, moving rakes of American, European and “wagons” from Turkey, Italy and Iran.
If it is the one I am thinking of, "Thomas" is not one of the S-100 tank engines, but former BEDT #15, though it looks similiar: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooklyn_Eastern_District_Terminal_15
For the history buffs. LMR means the Longmore Military Railway. The establishment also ran a massive 2 ft gauge railway, a lot of stock has now been preserved. For film buffs, the railway was used for the railway sections of the film " The Great ST Trinions train robbery"
I was unaware of the existence of American locomotives in UK in such numbers. Once you informed us, I realized the logic behind them being there so thanks for the history lesson. Once again great assessment and video, Jersey Bill
The USATC S100 had a profound impact on my childhood in a surprising way: When I was a child, I had a toy railway called the Big Big Train, made by Rovex Tri-ang in the UK. Sold internationally, several of the vehicles were reasonable albeit simplified models of British trains, in O gauge, battery operated, running on red (!) plastic tracks. Relevant here is the RV.262 which was a simplified (mainly, the valve gear was inside rather than outside) S100. I always thought it a bit of a strange choice, given that a lot of the other models were British, but I'm guessing the reason was that S100s ended up all over Europe, while at the same time the locomotive retained its distinctive American appearance, so it was a prototype which would conceptually appeal to a wide international audience. The Big Big Train eventually failed for other reasons, but I think it had a large impact on young train enthusiasts born in the 1960s.
Just to correct you, the Bachmann model is indeed correct for the real engine. LMR Number 300 was scrapped in the 1960s. The image you showed was actually Kent and East Sussex Railway USA Tank Number 30070 which was a southern example that got steam heat and Vacumn brakes which in 2017 was repainted in the same paint scheme as Number 300.
Great video. Received mine today. Got it in the British Railways livery. Came with all accessories, and runs like a dream. Super happy with this; especially as it's my first Bachmann locomotive. Only had Hornby until now.
I've always loved the USATC S100 and S160s. They remind me of the great camaraderie between the US and the UK. When the UKs rail network was in tatters, the US sent their best locomotive manufacturers to work: to keep the railways of Britain running. A moving example of the great relationship between the US and the UK. I hope you'll be buying the S160 that Rapido is creating, Sam.
Hi Sam! Thanks to you and your videos, I was inspired to buy my first British model loco. Although I'm a yank and have many American models, I've always been interested in British railroading and I've been wanting to get a British model loco for a long time. I managed to find a OO scale Mainline class J72 tank engine model from I believe the 70s for a decent price online. It is by far the most beautiful model loco I've laid eyes on. By watching your videos, I have more resolve to expand my collection. So thanks and keep up the good work!
Very fair review Sam. It has dawned on us that B always have their RTR QA in place. Never, or hardly any quality issues out of the box, but that's just our observation having followed your channel for quite a while now. Lovely loco, and especially the livery does serve her well. Cheerio.
Yeah he definitely has reviewed it before, he may have privated or unlisted the video. But that video was what inspired me to go and buy one myself, mine is in US Transportation Corps black. Still my favourite loco after all these years. Went and bought a rake of 7 warwells to go with it too.
Yeah I have reviewed this one before - about once a month I make updated reviews of more interesting locos! I think I can do a better job of reviewing them now, and this one in particular deserved to be shown off in 4k! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Howard Goodwin Hill, 87, a retired colonel in the Army Reserves who had been a consulting engineer in the Washington area since 1950, died of leukemia Jan. 22 at Walter Reed Army Hospital. He lived in Bladensburg. Col. Hill was born in Manchester, N.H. He became an apprentice machinist with the Southern Pacific Railroad in 1914. He served in the Army motor transport corps during World War I and was commissioned in the Reserves in the 1920s. On active duty during World War II, he designed locomotives for Army use overseas. He also managed railways in Sicily following the Allied invasion and later served in England. After the war, he worked on railways in Japan. He left active duty in 1950 and retired from the military in 1955.
Good review, Sam. I can see myself picking up one of these in the future, whether it’s brand new or second hand. I agree, you gotta love an American loco with buffers, and we’ll eventually get more. At least if Rapido has anything to say about it. 😉
The last one I saw was demoted to departmental service and numbered (from memory) DS239. They were popular in the last days of Southern steam for light branches such as the Fawley branch. The Longmoor Military Railway had wonderful open days.
I was looking at these the other day, thinking they had loads in stock and I’ll get one another time. After this video I looked again and 8 of the 10 Maunsells they had in stock had been sold!
Hey, Sam! It's surprising that American locomotive can also be seen in the UK. In reality, when the US ships some of those engines to the UK, they give the engines the engine standards for the UK. I know a lot of countries have different engine standards for all engines, whether it's steam, diesel or electric.
Nice review Sam. I haven't been able to watch many videos of yours lately as I have been busy with collage but the ones I do watch are always really enjoyable 👍 keep up the fun videos
At the Old Dominion Chapter, National Rail Historical Society we have WD5019. Currently known as just "The Rebel". It was meant to be exported during the war, but it remained in the states. Specifically the city of Richmond, in the State of Virginia. Currently she is in our yard in Midlothian (same state). Fun fact Rivarossi made it in HO. I have one of course. I do plan on getting the OO one eventually.
Hi Sam, a great video as usual, I have always been interested in 0-6-0T with the outside valve gear including the USA tanks. I built an ‘O’ gauge one from a brass kit, black with British Railways in yellow on the side tanks. I also believe that the WR 1500XX was the British version of the USA S100 class. I usually acquire a OO version of my O gauge but I was not impressed with this version when it was first released. I did buy the OO Rapido 1500XX that you reviewed some time ago, my one was a great model with DCC on board.
Hurrah on more of those tank engines being manufactured and sold (other decal versions included), especially the fact that those are often quite hard to find and buy depending on their availability! 😃 As I've said years ago, not only the main basis of Rosie from Thomas And Friends, but also alongside the Class E2 (extended side tanks version), one of my top favorite steam locos. Oh and not to mention, almost reminded me of Puffa and the goods engine/Little Owl from Tugs due to its design, mostly by the side tanks, domes and front buffer beam.
A few points….. The model represents the loco as on the LMR in the 1950s - not the preserved version (which is in fact not the original LMR loco! The original got scrapped and the preserved one is actually a Southern Railway example repainted and renumbered / named after the scraped loco). The ‘standard’ version of the USA tank lacked any form of brakes or steam heat - as a shunting engine designed for yard work neither of these things were required and as such should not be present on a model of the ‘real’ 300 The ‘boards’ which are shown to be fitted to the smoke box area in the instruction manual are another Southern Railway modification (done following complaints that there was nowhere for shed staff to stand to shovel ash out of the smoke box due to the short wheelbase but large boiler) and were not fitted to other examples of the class.
Hi Sam. It is very probable that the front end pipes were retrofitted - quite possibly during its life in preservation - in order to enable it to haul coaching stock. Such paraphernalia would not have been needed to marshall unfitted stock at the docks etc. The lack of a running plate was copied by the GWR-designed class 15xx, with the sticking out smokebox reminiscent of the GWR class 94. VG review, Sam.
Good review as always Sam. I recently got the Keighley & Worth Valley version & i'm very happy with it. As you say they are a bit different & like you always like to try unusual models on my layout.
I have a couple of these. Original USATC Black and the one from the Bluebell Railway in Southern Region green. Love them but would like to see Bachmann get permission from Model Rail to make a general release version and make updates such as a diecast boiler, sprung buffers, a coreless motor with a flywheel, 18pin socket and a prefitted speaker. Or to see Rapido UK announce their own version.
Nice tank engine you got there. I've found a cheap and good quality way to buying N Gauge items. I've bought an N Gauge analogue track controller, complete with mains plug and clip, and 4 pieces of 2nd radius double curve track from ebay, plus 4 N Gauge straight track pieces and another 4 2nd radius double curves. Add the 4 straight pieces of N Gauge track I already have, and I'll have a proper oval of operational track. Of course, I'll have to save up more money to buy an N Gauge steamy that runs well. Flying Scotsman is no good because she's static. I've wholly committed myself to this.
If you’re new to n gauge, there’s many different places to get good items for cheap. eBay is a big one, but there’s other places online and in real life. Mainly rails of Sheffield pre-owned and going to events are where the deals are at. You should have an easier time finding these items if you’re in Britain. I’m stuck in America!
Hello Sam, I have one of these and I like it for what it does. I think what's happened when you compared the photo to the model is that particular USA Tank in the photo was painted to represent the real no 300 Frank S Ross which was scrapped. Hope this clears things up a bit for you.
We’ve still got a few S100’s in the U.S. and a single operating one. very interesting that they still look very American even with British modifications.
Actually, I believe a few of these ran in the States. One of them, Granite Rock Co. No.10, is preserved and running at the California State Railroad Museum, in Sacramento, CA.
Funny story Sam, I've been trying to find one of these for such a long time for a good price, but sadly nothing as come up. Hopefully one day I'll be able to get one for my layout. Cheers Jasper & Willow
Ahh that's a pity - they were sold exclusively to model rail unfortunately. Bachmann may do a general release for them soon though - it's getting towards about that time! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I was shocked at the rrp on that one they'd announced a while ago they were doing one sure on some of the forums they had been talking about 169.99 like around accurascale prices.
Definitely not worth comparing the model to SR variant 30070 when it was painted up as this loco a few years back by the KESR. Although they did a fantastic job, I don’t think they intended to authentically replicate the details of the LMR version. Definitely worth checking a period picture of the LMR loco itself to see whether it had vacuum brakes, etc
There's a Queen to oh oh something. There is a ticket and that is not a 3 Wheeler. Or at 060 locomotive in the background on the turntable, you'll hardly notice.
Yay! Another American train! For the most part, these are doing pretty well this year review-wise (and if only the Blue Goose could be counted in the runnings, we could have gotten the #1 spot!)
Yeah, I see what your saying about how you can tell it was an American made tank loco. It's not going to win any beauty pageant however, I see beauty in horsepower like an Allegheny class Locomotive 2-6-6-6 those were the real monsters! Good Review Sam.
LMR WD300 was scrapped many years ago, so you could also say this is a model of a preservation scene loco (the current WD300 is actually BR 30070). Incidentally, Major General Frank S. Ross was an American General who helped organise the transportation of men and materiels in WW2 Europe and N. Africa including D-Day. Sam your S100 box instructions clearly say “USA 0-6-0Tank’ and show the missing accessories, so why don’t you do your subscribers a favour and ask Bachmann/Model Rail where they are?
New people have got to know that, if needed, American builders were able to do locos with European buffers. The contrary happened when the Flying Scotsman went for its tour in the USA so they had to fit American couplers and add a cowcatcher
A funfact here for you, these locomotives worked in Southampton Docks along with the E2 Class So what im saying is basically.. thomas and rosie worked together in real life
Oh geez, I can't help but notice the lamp iron on the right front of the front buffer beam is like....bent horribly inwards. Also there's noticeable rust on the rear cab handrail on the port side, and the rear cab windows are horribly painted on the inside of the cab, where the blue paint bleeds heavily over the off-white interior. I'm surprised you didn't notice that! Other than that looks like a pretty decent model.
Great job on continuing to keep up the improved focus on detail. I agree that etched nameplates should nowadays just be a standard at this point. Also, while most locos in Britain never had white wall tyres, Flying Scotsman, all of the Coronation and West Riding Limited A4s, and some others had polished tyres that sure do look white in a lot of photos (Railway Wonders of the World have a great photo of A4 Dominion of Canada with polished steel trim)! Speaking of motors, my Varney 2-8-2 has a 7 pole, and my Hobbytown E-unit has a 9 pole, yet Bachmann decided only bothered with 3? Thanks as always Sam.
Actually some British locomotives have had white wall tyres, now admittedly they are not steam but some diesels have had them, my new tooled bachmann 37 and 47 have white wall tyres wheels, at one time the Class 89 had white wall tyres, even today an example of a locomotive is one class 91 the one named Neville Hill has white wall tyres.
@@davidstrains4910 interesting. The one time I saw a 37, it was so dirty, that I wouldnt have been able to see if there was neon pink on the wheels! I only knew about the polished tyres do to pre-war LNER being my main interest, especially because they kept passenger locos polished and shiny!
@@1471SirFrederickBanbury With diesels they do tend to get quite dirty pretty quickly so sometimes you won’t see the white rims plus it wasn’t every 37 that had them, the bachmann 37 that I have is 37430 Cwmbran and on a couple of pictures of that you can see the white rims on it, with diesels white rims on the wheels was mainly an embellishment applied by the depot that the locomotive was allocated to and it was to show that they took pride in their locomotive fleet, for example the 47 by bachmann that I have is 47375 Tinsley Traction Depot Quality Approved which in real life was allocated to Tinsley and they were quite well known for taking pride in its locomotive fleet, some depots while they did take pride in their locomotives they didn’t put embellishments on their locomotives, if your looking for a diesel that has white rims and isn’t dirty take a look at some photos of 55002 when it was running in the 80s in it’s two tone green Another thing if your looking for some diesels with white wheel rims is look at depot open day photos, many diesels would have been tarted up for events like that.
I bought one of these last year for Christmas the kwvr 72 one it is brilliant and the exesorys are on this one as well its like a black bench on the moke box
In defense of Bachmann in this case remember that these were produced for a specific customer (Model Rail Magazine), so the design and features may have been done to the specifications of Model Rail Magazine, as opposed to what Bachmann may have produced had they been selling them to other retailers.
As an American, I don't really consider the S100 to be a exceptionally American design, especially when compared to the other USATC classes sent to Britain during World War Two. Like it looks more at home on European tracks than even the S160, the class with the farthest reach of any American steam locomotive design in general. Still a good video, I might have to try to pick one up in future, I do so love the S100 for its style.
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I enjoyed this video immensely. Have you ever reviewed another Model Rail/Dapol loco available at a very reasonable price from Model Rail or Kernow. It's the Y1/Y3 Sentinal 0-4-0. I have one and it has lived up to expectations. It has been around for a few years now but I think it would be worth a look and would not break the bank.
I have always been in a yes/no/I don't know position about buying her. I love this kind of engine, but you were not really enthusiastic when you made a review of this model some time ago (or maybe I'm confusing with the Rivarossi one ?). On the overall aspect, there is some let down, I agree. I am more interested by the BR black with sunshine-SR like BR name on her, so, some of your comments does not apply for my chosen version. Well...For me, the dynamic qualities will make the difference. Correct mechanism, easy to open, let down by a three pole motor and no flywheel, seems to be acceptably geared (a little too fast for my taste, but not critical), but the very slow speed is poor. Good torque by the way. And runs fine. Well, for me, it's a buy. Sole criticism for me, the price. Limited at GBP 100, that would be allright.
I really wish manufacturers wouldn't be so local as far as what they sell, as it stands Bachmann sells all over the world, but what do they offer in the US? Nothing but US based trains, which gets old real quick. I mean I get the whole idea that they think people tend to want to see what's "local" but there is so much variety in UK locos I feel like I'm missing out (and unwilling to throw OO on my layout)
I've heard it said that a 3 pole motor has more torque than a 5 pole, if true this would make it a logical choice for a shunting locomotive. - Perhaps time to do a video to prove/dis-prove this theory?
Not sure if I will ever look for one of these, they are interesting tank engines though especially with them having full valve gear and pistons on the outside, decent video overall Sam.
Hang on a moment - you didn't do the usual run-in for this loco. Did we miss something? And yes, sprung buffers would be prototypical, but you'd never actually use them on a model. The cars never get that close.
Nice, but older model. Seeing it in LMR livery reminds me I still have a couple of decisions to make. WD Austerity 2-10-0, KR models or Ellis Clark? LMR or black livery?
Hi Sam. I love the LMR livery - I have four LMR locos. Unfortunately, Model Rail do not have the Frank S Ross in their range at the moment. Which was the odd-one-out loco and why?
Coreless motors are so cheap and easily available in a lot of sizes now. I will never understand why todays really expensive locos aren't fitted from factory with them. Even if it would raise the costs by a few pounds, it would be worth the higher price tag.
Baldwin Locomotive company was no stranger to exporting their locomotives to the UK and Europe. The Lynton and Barnstaple had their locomotive Lyn, Narrow gauge 10-12 locomotives and the USA tanks. During WW1 Baldwin locomotives worked narrow gauge railways behind the front lines, moving anything and everything. I've got one of these tanks and it's such a fun addition to my collection.
They also supplied Moguls to the GNR, GC and MR during a labour dispute, but they were unpopular with crews and were all gone within 15 years.
As a kid in Southampton I remember these, particularly running between the old and new docks past the Royal Pier. I ordered one in BR green as soon as Model Rail announced them and when it eventually arrived ran it happily for a couple of years before I switched gauge to N. It now lives in happy retirement with a lot of other locos and stock that remind me of my childhood in display cases in front of my desk. As someone else mentions, it would be great to have this in N.
It's a great looking model, and a good review.
The original Frank S Ross on the LMR was NOT fitted with brake pipes etc, there's a picture on the web if you search. So the model should not have these if it's going to be authentic. These were designed as shunting engines to move unfitted stock around the yard so no purpose in fitting vacuum or air brakes or steam heat. That engine was scrapped in 1958, having been hardly used since new.
The current engine painted as Frank S Ross in LMR livery on the Kent and East Sussex Railway was actually SR 30070 which was never at the LMR. It went from shunting at Southampton to Departmental Stock at Ashford, then for scrap but got diverted to the KESR where it laid unused for half a century until restored about 2016. It's a fine looking engine, and can storm up the steep Tenterden Bank with 5 Mk.1's and still have steam to spare, making a fine noise! Worth going to see. It has a different coal bunker (up to roof top level) and detail differences to the cab, as well as brake pipes front and rear. There are probably many other small differences because it was built by Vulcan, whereas the original Frank S Ross was built by Davenport.
Here's a fun fact; the only reason we have no less than 4 of these preserved, from the original class of 15 bought by the SR, is because of a design fault. The bearing area in the axle-boxes is a bit too small, they are ok for running around a yard but if you take one on a long trip at speed, the 'boxes overheat. When BR decided to scrap the last 4 from Ashford departmental stock, they started on the trip to Woodham's at Barry but only got as far as Tonbridge before they ran hot boxes so they were dumped in the yard there. They remained forgotten there for about 6 months, and whilst there came to the attention of preservationists, and all four got bought. How lucky is that? Without that design fault, we would not have any left.
I think they are fine engines, I got to work maintaining the Bluebell's one many years ago and also got to drive one of the Yugoslavian copies, they have plenty of pulling power but due to the short wheelbase (a foot shorter than an Austerity tank) they have an odd "waddling" motion at speed on straight track.
Hope this helps.
Marion
One of these has been cast as “Thomas”, which is quite powerful and can handle a train of 4 to 6 American cars. The US Army Transportation Corps ran a few Ft. Eustis, Virginia during open house events and they were fun to watch in action, moving rakes of American, European and “wagons” from Turkey, Italy and Iran.
Where's that Thomas located?
If it is the one I am thinking of, "Thomas" is not one of the S-100 tank engines, but former BEDT #15, though it looks similiar:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooklyn_Eastern_District_Terminal_15
For the history buffs.
LMR means the Longmore Military Railway.
The establishment also ran a massive 2 ft gauge railway, a lot of stock has now been preserved.
For film buffs, the railway was used for the railway sections of the film " The Great ST Trinions train robbery"
And Chitty Chitty Bang Bang - when they are driving next to the Hunslet.
@@hypergolic8468with the ridiculously large extended chimney. Lawrie rose got to drive it on LMM
or possibly Longmoor
I was unaware of the existence of American locomotives in UK in such numbers. Once you informed us, I realized the logic behind them being there so thanks for the history lesson. Once again great assessment and video, Jersey Bill
The USATC S100 had a profound impact on my childhood in a surprising way: When I was a child, I had a toy railway called the Big Big Train, made by Rovex Tri-ang in the UK. Sold internationally, several of the vehicles were reasonable albeit simplified models of British trains, in O gauge, battery operated, running on red (!) plastic tracks. Relevant here is the RV.262 which was a simplified (mainly, the valve gear was inside rather than outside) S100. I always thought it a bit of a strange choice, given that a lot of the other models were British, but I'm guessing the reason was that S100s ended up all over Europe, while at the same time the locomotive retained its distinctive American appearance, so it was a prototype which would conceptually appeal to a wide international audience. The Big Big Train eventually failed for other reasons, but I think it had a large impact on young train enthusiasts born in the 1960s.
Just to correct you, the Bachmann model is indeed correct for the real engine. LMR Number 300 was scrapped in the 1960s. The image you showed was actually Kent and East Sussex Railway USA Tank Number 30070 which was a southern example that got steam heat and Vacumn brakes which in 2017 was repainted in the same paint scheme as Number 300.
Great video.
Received mine today. Got it in the British Railways livery. Came with all accessories, and runs like a dream. Super happy with this; especially as it's my first Bachmann locomotive. Only had Hornby until now.
I've always loved the USATC S100 and S160s. They remind me of the great camaraderie between the US and the UK.
When the UKs rail network was in tatters, the US sent their best locomotive manufacturers to work: to keep the railways of Britain running.
A moving example of the great relationship between the US and the UK.
I hope you'll be buying the S160 that Rapido is creating, Sam.
Hi Sam! Thanks to you and your videos, I was inspired to buy my first British model loco. Although I'm a yank and have many American models, I've always been interested in British railroading and I've been wanting to get a British model loco for a long time. I managed to find a OO scale Mainline class J72 tank engine model from I believe the 70s for a decent price online. It is by far the most beautiful model loco I've laid eyes on. By watching your videos, I have more resolve to expand my collection. So thanks and keep up the good work!
I bought one I think for £9.50 back in 1979 it is not a bad little model even today.
Very fair review Sam. It has dawned on us that B always have their RTR QA in place. Never, or hardly any quality issues out of the box, but that's just our observation having followed your channel for quite a while now. Lovely loco, and especially the livery does serve her well. Cheerio.
Thanks! Yeah that’s true - I think Bachmann are probably best for build quality!
Didn’t you already review this model? I feel like with these revisits it would be nice to put it in the title.
I think he reviewed the Bachmann HO version previously and maybe the Rivarossi HO too.
Yeah he definitely has reviewed it before, he may have privated or unlisted the video. But that video was what inspired me to go and buy one myself, mine is in US Transportation Corps black. Still my favourite loco after all these years. Went and bought a rake of 7 warwells to go with it too.
The other one that was reviewed is actually the second one in the haulage section. You have to search for S100 to find it
Yeah I have reviewed this one before - about once a month I make updated reviews of more interesting locos! I think I can do a better job of reviewing them now, and this one in particular deserved to be shown off in 4k!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
That same engine also served as Rosie’s basis in Thomas and Friends.
I would have awarded an extra star to the detail score for the very complex valve gear.
That's a fairly normal Walschaerts valve gear; nicely done.
Howard Goodwin Hill, 87, a retired colonel in the Army Reserves who had been a consulting engineer in the Washington area since 1950, died of leukemia Jan. 22 at Walter Reed Army Hospital. He lived in Bladensburg.
Col. Hill was born in Manchester, N.H. He became an apprentice machinist with the Southern Pacific Railroad in 1914. He served in the Army motor transport corps during World War I and was commissioned in the Reserves in the 1920s.
On active duty during World War II, he designed locomotives for Army use overseas. He also managed railways in Sicily following the Allied invasion and later served in England. After the war, he worked on railways in Japan. He left active duty in 1950 and retired from the military in 1955.
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Good review, Sam. I can see myself picking up one of these in the future, whether it’s brand new or second hand.
I agree, you gotta love an American loco with buffers, and we’ll eventually get more. At least if Rapido has anything to say about it. 😉
Oh hey it is Rosie's siblings!
Yeah lol
The last one I saw was demoted to departmental service and numbered (from memory) DS239. They were popular in the last days of Southern steam for light branches such as the Fawley branch. The Longmoor Military Railway had wonderful open days.
I was looking at these the other day, thinking they had loads in stock and I’ll get one another time.
After this video I looked again and 8 of the 10 Maunsells they had in stock had been sold!
Hey, Sam! It's surprising that American locomotive can also be seen in the UK. In reality, when the US ships some of those engines to the UK, they give the engines the engine standards for the UK. I know a lot of countries have different engine standards for all engines, whether it's steam, diesel or electric.
Nice review Sam. I haven't been able to watch many videos of yours lately as I have been busy with collage but the ones I do watch are always really enjoyable 👍 keep up the fun videos
At the Old Dominion Chapter, National Rail Historical Society we have WD5019. Currently known as just "The Rebel". It was meant to be exported during the war, but it remained in the states. Specifically the city of Richmond, in the State of Virginia. Currently she is in our yard in Midlothian (same state). Fun fact Rivarossi made it in HO. I have one of course. I do plan on getting the OO one eventually.
Hi Sam, a great video as usual, I have always been interested in 0-6-0T with the outside valve gear including the USA tanks. I built an ‘O’ gauge one from a brass kit, black with British Railways in yellow on the side tanks. I also believe that the WR 1500XX was the British version of the USA S100 class. I usually acquire a OO version of my O gauge but I was not impressed with this version when it was first released. I did buy the OO Rapido 1500XX that you reviewed some time ago, my one was a great model with DCC on board.
Hurrah on more of those tank engines being manufactured and sold (other decal versions included), especially the fact that those are often quite hard to find and buy depending on their availability! 😃
As I've said years ago, not only the main basis of Rosie from Thomas And Friends, but also alongside the Class E2 (extended side tanks version), one of my top favorite steam locos.
Oh and not to mention, almost reminded me of Puffa and the goods engine/Little Owl from Tugs due to its design, mostly by the side tanks, domes and front buffer beam.
A few points…..
The model represents the loco as on the LMR in the 1950s - not the preserved version (which is in fact not the original LMR loco! The original got scrapped and the preserved one is actually a Southern Railway example repainted and renumbered / named after the scraped loco).
The ‘standard’ version of the USA tank lacked any form of brakes or steam heat - as a shunting engine designed for yard work neither of these things were required and as such should not be present on a model of the ‘real’ 300
The ‘boards’ which are shown to be fitted to the smoke box area in the instruction manual are another Southern Railway modification (done following complaints that there was nowhere for shed staff to stand to shovel ash out of the smoke box due to the short wheelbase but large boiler) and were not fitted to other examples of the class.
Have you ever done a 3 to 5 pole comparison. I get the feeling either can perform well or badly. So many other factors that can influence performance
Hi Sam. It is very probable that the front end pipes were retrofitted - quite possibly during its life in preservation - in order to enable it to haul coaching stock. Such paraphernalia would not have been needed to marshall unfitted stock at the docks etc.
The lack of a running plate was copied by the GWR-designed class 15xx, with the sticking out smokebox reminiscent of the GWR class 94.
VG review, Sam.
Good review as always Sam. I recently got the Keighley & Worth Valley version & i'm very happy with it. As you say they are a bit different & like you always like to try unusual models on my layout.
I have a couple of these. Original USATC Black and the one from the Bluebell Railway in Southern Region green. Love them but would like to see Bachmann get permission from Model Rail to make a general release version and make updates such as a diecast boiler, sprung buffers, a coreless motor with a flywheel, 18pin socket and a prefitted speaker. Or to see Rapido UK announce their own version.
Nice tank engine you got there. I've found a cheap and good quality way to buying N Gauge items. I've bought an N Gauge analogue track controller, complete with mains plug and clip, and 4 pieces of 2nd radius double curve track from ebay, plus 4 N Gauge straight track pieces and another 4 2nd radius double curves. Add the 4 straight pieces of N Gauge track I already have, and I'll have a proper oval of operational track. Of course, I'll have to save up more money to buy an N Gauge steamy that runs well. Flying Scotsman is no good because she's static. I've wholly committed myself to this.
If you’re new to n gauge, there’s many different places to get good items for cheap. eBay is a big one, but there’s other places online and in real life. Mainly rails of Sheffield pre-owned and going to events are where the deals are at. You should have an easier time finding these items if you’re in Britain. I’m stuck in America!
@@JimmyProductions Ebay and Cheltenham Model Centre online have helped me out greatly.
Hello Sam, I have one of these and I like it for what it does. I think what's happened when you compared the photo to the model is that particular USA Tank in the photo was painted to represent the real no 300 Frank S Ross which was scrapped. Hope this clears things up a bit for you.
We’ve still got a few S100’s in the U.S. and a single operating one. very interesting that they still look very American even with British modifications.
Oh? Where? (I'm in PA).
@@ReggieArford California state railroad museum runs granite rock #10
With her (relatively) high drivers, for an 0-6-0, this would be a GOOD candidate for a conversion to On30/16.5 narrow gauge
Actually, I believe a few of these ran in the States. One of them, Granite Rock Co. No.10, is preserved and running at the California State Railroad Museum, in Sacramento, CA.
I have had an NCB variant for sometime now. Love the model and I would love to get another
Funny story Sam, I've been trying to find one of these for such a long time for a good price, but sadly nothing as come up. Hopefully one day I'll be able to get one for my layout.
Cheers Jasper & Willow
Ahh that's a pity - they were sold exclusively to model rail unfortunately. Bachmann may do a general release for them soon though - it's getting towards about that time!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
S160 was announced from Rapido a few days ago. Are you preordering one Sam?
I was shocked at the rrp on that one they'd announced a while ago they were doing one sure on some of the forums they had been talking about 169.99 like around accurascale prices.
It was months ago. The announcement the other day was to say you can now order them and detail on what will be available.
@@karlyoung3275and yet I still pre-ordered 2 from Rails of Sheffield
Definitely not worth comparing the model to SR variant 30070 when it was painted up as this loco a few years back by the KESR. Although they did a fantastic job, I don’t think they intended to authentically replicate the details of the LMR version. Definitely worth checking a period picture of the LMR loco itself to see whether it had vacuum brakes, etc
They make great little shunting engines 😍
There's a Queen to oh oh something. There is a ticket and that is not a 3 Wheeler. Or at 060 locomotive in the background on the turntable, you'll hardly notice.
How mystifying 😂
Yay! Another American train! For the most part, these are doing pretty well this year review-wise (and if only the Blue Goose could be counted in the runnings, we could have gotten the #1 spot!)
Yeah, I see what your saying about how you can tell it was an American made tank loco. It's not going to win any beauty pageant however, I see beauty in horsepower like an Allegheny class Locomotive 2-6-6-6 those were the real monsters! Good Review Sam.
LMR WD300 was scrapped many years ago, so you could also say this is a model of a preservation scene loco (the current WD300 is actually BR 30070). Incidentally, Major General Frank S. Ross was an American General who helped organise the transportation of men and materiels in WW2 Europe and N. Africa including D-Day.
Sam your S100 box instructions clearly say “USA 0-6-0Tank’ and show the missing accessories, so why don’t you do your subscribers a favour and ask Bachmann/Model Rail where they are?
I’ve been behind this loco my self and it is awesome
Appropriate considering rapido just had their full announcement of their SD160 range, which is also an American steam class that worked over here
It’s Rosie from the Thomas and friends series!!
New people have got to know that, if needed, American builders were able to do locos with European buffers.
The contrary happened when the Flying Scotsman went for its tour in the USA so they had to fit American couplers and add a cowcatcher
This USA dockside tank engine looks alright I guess but you done an amazing job with the review and ratings of the model Sam 26:45
A funfact here for you, these locomotives worked in Southampton Docks along with the E2 Class
So what im saying is basically.. thomas and rosie worked together in real life
Oh geez, I can't help but notice the lamp iron on the right front of the front buffer beam is like....bent horribly inwards. Also there's noticeable rust on the rear cab handrail on the port side, and the rear cab windows are horribly painted on the inside of the cab, where the blue paint bleeds heavily over the off-white interior. I'm surprised you didn't notice that! Other than that looks like a pretty decent model.
Great job on continuing to keep up the improved focus on detail. I agree that etched nameplates should nowadays just be a standard at this point. Also, while most locos in Britain never had white wall tyres, Flying Scotsman, all of the Coronation and West Riding Limited A4s, and some others had polished tyres that sure do look white in a lot of photos (Railway Wonders of the World have a great photo of A4 Dominion of Canada with polished steel trim)! Speaking of motors, my Varney 2-8-2 has a 7 pole, and my Hobbytown E-unit has a 9 pole, yet Bachmann decided only bothered with 3? Thanks as always Sam.
Actually some British locomotives have had white wall tyres, now admittedly they are not steam but some diesels have had them, my new tooled bachmann 37 and 47 have white wall tyres wheels, at one time the Class 89 had white wall tyres, even today an example of a locomotive is one class 91 the one named Neville Hill has white wall tyres.
This one did. Check out any videos of the Army owned line for paint details.
@@davidstrains4910 interesting. The one time I saw a 37, it was so dirty, that I wouldnt have been able to see if there was neon pink on the wheels! I only knew about the polished tyres do to pre-war LNER being my main interest, especially because they kept passenger locos polished and shiny!
@@1471SirFrederickBanbury With diesels they do tend to get quite dirty pretty quickly so sometimes you won’t see the white rims plus it wasn’t every 37 that had them, the bachmann 37 that I have is 37430 Cwmbran and on a couple of pictures of that you can see the white rims on it, with diesels white rims on the wheels was mainly an embellishment applied by the depot that the locomotive was allocated to and it was to show that they took pride in their locomotive fleet, for example the 47 by bachmann that I have is 47375 Tinsley Traction Depot Quality Approved which in real life was allocated to Tinsley and they were quite well known for taking pride in its locomotive fleet, some depots while they did take pride in their locomotives they didn’t put embellishments on their locomotives, if your looking for a diesel that has white rims and isn’t dirty take a look at some photos of 55002 when it was running in the 80s in it’s two tone green
Another thing if your looking for some diesels with white wheel rims is look at depot open day photos, many diesels would have been tarted up for events like that.
I bought one of these last year for Christmas the kwvr 72 one it is brilliant and the exesorys are on this one as well its like a black bench on the moke box
In defense of Bachmann in this case remember that these were produced for a specific customer (Model Rail Magazine), so the design and features may have been done to the specifications of Model Rail Magazine, as opposed to what Bachmann may have produced had they been selling them to other retailers.
Looking at the views on your videos, looks like your Rivarossi Big boy had the most views...I'm voting for the Rivarossi Allegheny next..😊
Sam could you try and make a thomas character in your 3d printer i think it would be cool
As an American, I don't really consider the S100 to be a exceptionally American design, especially when compared to the other USATC classes sent to Britain during World War Two. Like it looks more at home on European tracks than even the S160, the class with the farthest reach of any American steam locomotive design in general. Still a good video, I might have to try to pick one up in future, I do so love the S100 for its style.
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@@SamsTrains you're welcome Sam's trains
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7:59 YAY the 1p gets a mention, It's been a long time lol.
I enjoyed this video immensely. Have you ever reviewed another Model Rail/Dapol loco available at a very reasonable price from Model Rail or Kernow. It's the Y1/Y3 Sentinal 0-4-0. I have one and it has lived up to expectations. It has been around for a few years now but I think it would be worth a look and would not break the bank.
22:48
Think I found the odd one out. That red tank engine in the background
Hey Sam Thomas Bachman baue is now out please get it and review it
I have always been in a yes/no/I don't know position about buying her. I love this kind of engine, but you were not really enthusiastic when you made a review of this model some time ago (or maybe I'm confusing with the Rivarossi one ?).
On the overall aspect, there is some let down, I agree. I am more interested by the BR black with sunshine-SR like BR name on her, so, some of your comments does not apply for my chosen version.
Well...For me, the dynamic qualities will make the difference. Correct mechanism, easy to open, let down by a three pole motor and no flywheel, seems to be acceptably geared (a little too fast for my taste, but not critical), but the very slow speed is poor. Good torque by the way. And runs fine.
Well, for me, it's a buy. Sole criticism for me, the price. Limited at GBP 100, that would be allright.
I'm gonna trigger so many by saying this, but OMG, it's Rosie! Edit: Well, not exactly, Rosie, but close enough
surprised you didn't have Bachmann Rosie from the Thomas and Friends range join in, I am almost certain she was based on this engine
Would love a model of the lancing works USA tank !
I really wish manufacturers wouldn't be so local as far as what they sell, as it stands Bachmann sells all over the world, but what do they offer in the US? Nothing but US based trains, which gets old real quick. I mean I get the whole idea that they think people tend to want to see what's "local" but there is so much variety in UK locos I feel like I'm missing out (and unwilling to throw OO on my layout)
I've been hauled by this one at the Kent and East Sussex!
There is a HO version of this loco (I think by Rivarossi), one of which I have. Great model. :)
Ha, saw your HO ones near the end of the video. :)
I've heard it said that a 3 pole motor has more torque than a 5 pole, if true this would make it a logical choice for a shunting locomotive. - Perhaps time to do a video to prove/dis-prove this theory?
Don't know what it is, but I couldn't help but hear "Smells like Kenosha" whilst the 0-6-0 ran.
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What's the deal with "sprung buffers"? With those couplers they never touch?
Sprung buffers on OO locomotives serve no purpose other than to be ‘realistic the the prototype’
Looks great and runs well.....pity no flywheel but alright as a puller....
Not sure if I will ever look for one of these, they are interesting tank engines though especially with them having full valve gear and pistons on the outside, decent video overall Sam.
Thanks David - yeah absolutely the valve gear makes them look awesome!
Bachmann looks fairly nice !
Hi Sam. Excellent review as usual. Just one question, how do you convert your 'star' rating into a 'score' and then 'grade'?
Hi Sam I think I found the odd one out. it's the GWR holden tank, because it's a 0-4-0 not a 0-6-0. Hopefully I got the right.
Cheers Jasper & Willow
Very well spotted that’s the one!
Hang on a moment - you didn't do the usual run-in for this loco. Did we miss something? And yes, sprung buffers would be prototypical, but you'd never actually use them on a model. The cars never get that close.
A great video idea would be swapping a quality can motor into this loco.
How much better would Rosie actually look if they kept this design of her basis for her 💖
Hi Sam. I was trying to find your previous review of this engine so that i could compare the reviews. Have you deleted it?
Nice, but older model. Seeing it in LMR livery reminds me I still have a couple of decisions to make. WD Austerity 2-10-0, KR models or Ellis Clark? LMR or black livery?
Hi Sam. I love the LMR livery - I have four LMR locos. Unfortunately, Model Rail do not have the Frank S Ross in their range at the moment. Which was the odd-one-out loco and why?
What kind of brake van with bogies is that one with LMR 300? I have never seen one of those.
Will you also be reviewing the new Rapido UK S160 that just released?
I wonder if this could be a chassis base for a Thomas creation
I have the USA S100 0-6-0T in BR unlined Black version
A Strange little Loco - Thanks for sharing 😊🚂🚂🚂
Coreless motors are so cheap and easily available in a lot of sizes now. I will never understand why todays really expensive locos aren't fitted from factory with them. Even if it would raise the costs by a few pounds, it would be worth the higher price tag.
Great channel Sam.
Thank you so much!
Real one on the K&WVR i am sure
The Holden 101 is out of place since they were 0-4-0s instead of 0-6-0s
Did you plan to re review this after the s160 announcement
Haha no!! Coincidence
Ooh whos doing them? Kinda want one of them.
@@73Ransome Rapido UK have a range of S160s for pre-order...not cheap, mind!
@@ianjeffery6744 will give them a look still
@@73Ransome Rapido, with Rails have 2 exclusives and Clarks have 1
Sam, will you be reviewing the new Rapido S160 when it comes out?
You have to see the engines in Argentina, some are truly british, american or even germans
I didn't hear you explain LMR - Longmoor Military Railway. Apologises if you did.
So amazing review sam 10 out of 10