Traditional Archers hate me for this!
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- Traditional Archers hate me for this!
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Q&A: yes I could get a real compound bow, but actually I don't want to because of the following reasons:
1. Compound bows have a complicated system which is hard to repair in the field,
2. They are quite heavy causing me to shake.
3. They are bulky and cannot really be taken down quickly.
4. Compounds bows are expensive
My recurve bow
1. Is easy to repair in the field
2. Is pretty lightweight
3. Can be taken down
4. My setup only costs 200 euros
In my opinion my "HYBRID" setup is the perfect survival bow. Also if anything breaks with the sight, peep or release I can always switch back to bare bow shooting.
Thanks for watching.
With Lilly, there isn’t any "hunger" games, 🏹🍖🍗
Lilly,are you from Germany? Where can i buy a bow like yours?
Very unfortunately, I traded my collapsible recurve for a compound. Biggest mistake I could have made. God willing I can make a trade back.
Hey Lilly, what is your opinion on using combat archery for survival situations?
@@triclopsgamer5934 lars anderson has the answer to close distance combat archery, check him out
I'm 77 & started archery about 5 months ago. I'm still working on getting thing dialed in & would be very pleased if I shot as well as you do. It's all about details and lots of practice. Keep it up.
I'm a traditional archer and would never hate anyone for doing something different to what I do. I actually find it quite interesting to watch all this technological marvels and then go back and shoot with my stick. Awesome range btw! Perhaps I'm just a traditional non-hater. Subbed. :)
What about Shad (from Shadiversity channel) proving that one can shoot straight from "the wrong side" of the bow?!
Don't you hate him a little bit?!
I've been an archer for over 50 years now, and I say do it however you want to, it's quite simply a joy to see the arrow fly. You go girl.
I feel like that setup will allow you to train your muscles in precision and accuracy. When and if you remove the sight, your body will remember it's conditioning. As a traditional horse bow archer, I still appreciate what you have there.
This was great and made me realize that there is something worse than have a bear charge at you from 39 meters when you have only one arrow left, which is having a bear charge at you from 39 meters when your arrow is in his bum.
Or a raptor.
🐺 Yep I reckon that would screw your day up for sure lol 🇺🇲🦅
Hey Lilly, I' am really impressed with all the modifications, that you have made to your Samick SHT recurve bow, you have even improved on them, making your bow perform really great. You are so creative, and smart, and we all appreciate you for that.
Many people don't have a clue how difficult that type of shooting is, great job you two.
She is shooting with her spouse. So there are two people shooting.
That is without a doubt the coolest target range I've ever seen.
I agree with you qtuivk
Great video... When I was 6 or 7 my dad bought me a membership in the Ishi bow club. It was less than a mile from our house. I shot every day and always missed one or more targets. I never had a set of matching arrows cause I would lose some and find others. I'm really good at finding things from hunting stray arrows all those years. Thanks you brought back some great memories
Y’all Lilly has one of the best channels on youtube. Give our lady a big thumbs up before you leave 👍
Not gonna lie it took me a minute to realize she reminded me of laracroft from the new tomb raider movie and Elle from the last of us 2. Hope yall know what I'm talking about......I rewatched the video and realized she even has a dinosaur and a liking of doggies....she is elle from last of us 2..in a good way.
I do🤣😎👍💯
Recurve with compound trimmings. Traditional and instinctive archers having meltdowns everywhere. What ever works at the end of the day aye!
I shoot trad and her setup really triggers me😂 but you are right, whatever works and whatever you like is allright...
Yeah I hear ya! But ego always creeps in with useless criticism, as in if this bow lined up next to you on an instinctive course you might he like "hey, you cant shoot that thing here" but then should we really even care?...
BUGmouth ready actually we shouldn‘t care. But somehow we do. So our thoughts are as justified as her compound scope in my opinion. On a 3D competition she wouldn‘t be allowed to use that bow, according to IFAA rules
@@mlugin8050 thanks for commenting. Its ok if people dont like my setup as long as they still respect my decision to use this unusual setup. To each their own. Maybe this will be a new bow class for tournaments :)
Survival Lilly thanks for your answer! Yes its just important to have fun. Maybe the new class will be called Survivalbow👍🏻
In my distant youth, my brothers and i, made our own bows and arrows. We hunted to help feed our family and other older people. That being said, no matter how good you get factors such as wind even your heartbeat can throw your impact point off. Anywho those days are gone forever, enjoy watching your channel and your videos. Thank you very much, for bringing back my memories of a forgotten youth
Hey Lilly, soll ich Dir mal einen Fenris Pump Action Bogen schicken? Ich glaube, das Ding könnte Dir Spaß machen. Grüße aus dem Odenwald, Jörg
Hallo Jörg, schön von dir zu hören, kannst mir gerne schicken, aber nur wenn ich dir dafür eins meiner Messer schicken darf :) melde dich per email: survivallilly@mailbox.org LG aus Ö. Lilly
@Greg Artley Willst Du sie jetzt beleidigen, sie hat doch keinen Sprachfehler, wie die niedrigen Lebensformen nördlich der Bayerisch-Österreichischen Hegemoniegrenze. In der Wiener Neustadt hat man nicht nur hervorragende Berufsbildungseinrichtungen - Alma Mater Theresiana kurz TherMilAk - man gibt auch nicht irgendwelche seltsamen Laute von sich, sondern spricht eine Weltsprache, die neben mehreren Staaten Europas auch in Nord- und Südamerika, sowie Asien (Sibirien) zu Hause ist - "Bairisch". Wiener Neustadt ist mittelbairischer Sprachraum.
Hey this isnt fair you guys!!!!!!
@@paulscheidt6167 German is a beautiful language. I envy people who are multilingual .
Hi Lilly! First off I just wanted to say that I really enjoy your content and I always look forward to seeing your new videos! Secondly, I just wanted to recommend a new sight for your bow. If you haven’t heard about the EZ V Bow Sight you should definitely check it out. It removes the need for a range finder and helps with target panic. I made the switch and I haven’t looked back!
Thank you for all the hard work you put in to make your channel great!
Survival lilly...more like sniper lilly. Great shots!!!
Lol
Ain't that hard for 12 years training and with a sight!
@@ericdevarney4089 go cry somewhere else. Try to do better if you upload a video of you hitting the same shots but better we can talk again. Also shooting at targets is called training and you would want to be closer to your prey if you are hunting for real...
simp
I have been using a similar sight setup on my recurves too. It takes out a lot of the guess work in aiming compared to instinct shooting without sights. The sight peep and the rubber band do require regular maintenance. The peep will shift along the string after several hundred shots, and the rubber will break often. My instinct bow friends would laugh at the setup, but I like it very much.
Now you need an apple-shaped target on top of a mannequin, like William Tell...
My favorite is, shoot the apple off the head of Adolf Hitler.
willhelm tell didnt shot traditional bow, but a crossbow.
you mean robin hood
@@uffdabike9503
He’d be a gonner for sure!
Wilhelm Tell bitte
i agree with the guy who said that we don't care if tuned your bow, as an archer i find that pretty cool . nothing have to stay thesame for ever. good job.
Tighten your wrist strap a little, then hold the bow more loosely. At full draw, open your hand so the bow rests in the web between your thumb and index finger, in line with your wrist. With your hand relaxed, point your four fingers at the target. Lastly, pull the trigger on your release the way you do on your rifle, squeeze it slowly. It should surprise you when it releases. Once you have your bow set up the way you like, practice your longest shots first to force you to focus better. That will tighten up your shorter shots. When you shoot at a target put multiple spots to shoot at, and never shoot more than one arrow per spot. That way you will not Robin Hood your expensive arrows. I am an archery coach.
Yup, I had a good teacher. I couldn't explain it but I could see she was holding the bow too tightly.
The death grip on the bow was what I noticed first lol
Same same... I make a circle with pointer finger and thumb loosely and lift other fingers. I shoot broadheads so can be a bit dangerous to lift all fingers. 😁
Solid advice ! This technique will drastically improve your accuracy and grouping. I found that rotating your elbow up will increases stability and eliminate string slap.
Great advice. However, when I tried this I found my bow on the ground after each shot, so I had to use a wrist strap like the Olympic shooters (which is why they use them). But I didn't want another piece of kit in the field. So now I just circle the grip with thumb and forefinger, the only contact with the bow grip is the webbing between these fingers, and point the other fingers at the target. Avoid touching the heel of the hand to the grip as well, as this can induce vertical torque. Think "archery shooting machine"
Great work. Great setup and I love how the bow is setup. I’m been thinking about adding a release to my bow also for an issue I have with my fingers, due to trigger finger.
Love your range. Such a fun range
I really can't see how anyone could hate you Lilly, you've done more then most people in the last few years have done in their entire lives. I say do what works for you, nobody wants to leave injured animals in the woods, especially if they claim to be nature lovers. I think you have balls of steel and are a lady to "Ride the River with".
Lilly that was the nicest woodland walk I've been on in a long time. Your hard work is paying off, You seem to be an excellent Archer.
I use to swing my bow left like you do once in a while. With some strength training, And a lot of practice with lighter pound pull bows I was able to control my heavy bow better.
Thank you for the wonderful video.
Well, if I ever get attacked by a baby stegosaurus, I hope that you're around to save me. 🤣🤣🤣
Love that you and your spouse are both killing it out there! I'm all for people shooting how they want to shoot, just curious why prefer the heavily modified traditional over going full compound?
Didn’t Know Austria had velociraptor problems 😂
They don't, Lilly took care of it.
Well, no jurassic world this time XD
Great Shooting Lilly. Congratulations on finding a Bow that fits you and that you like and shoot so well.
Liked the targets. More dinosaurs. Add more diversity like great white shark, giant spider, orcs, Frieza, etc.
Ron V. And zombies. Don’t forget the zombies.
And Storm troopers...
And trump and biden
And some human too
I love this . Your set up, your way it don’t matter what anyone else says. I’ve been thinking about the same type set up and seeing this sealed the deal, awesome. I been shooting a compound bow and going to do this same thing with a recurve bow. It’s Great letting arrows fly . Thank you for sharing this video.
Wow imagine being married to a badass woman like her, good job mystery camera wielding spouse
She would carry her family through a zombie apocalypse. Forget the crossbow from the walking dead. Too much reload time.
He is a hostage she will shoot with the arrow if he gets out of line or messes up a shot :)
I was thinking the same, but I'm too old to admit it in public. :-)
Not to mention she does such a nice job of shaving her arm pits. :0 What a lucky man.
@Joe Dirté Wax eh?
Great Shooting!!! You make it look so easy!! Love that smile of yours and the way you hold the bow!
as a traditional archer, I should duct tape one on my bows and try it out lol
I am a traditional archer and I think your set up is great. I'm not fond of takedown bows but that is for the archer to decide. Nice video.
Damn, girl those arms!
IKR 😂 first thing I noticed
Yeah, nice to see a lass with some actual muscle there rather than arms that look like a wet piece of string.
I have the same bow without all the clever bits and shoot HT, had it for about 13 years and was looking to change it, your video has convinced me to keep it and has confirmed my own knowledge that my bad shooting is me, and not the bow. glad i came across this, great shooting as well.
8:44
"Hey look into my eyes"
"I'm fine with that"
Amazing video btw 😁
Came here via Jörg's channel. I am not dissapointed. I really like the mix of survivalist, archery and all sorts of other topics. Plus you are just one of those people you find once in a blue moon that are instantly likable. :)
Keep up the good work, greetings from the Netherlands.
I have shot my recurve with a hunting/field sight and no peep with great accuracy.
No need for the peep or the release if you practice with the pin sight only.
What an incredible range! A million times better than when I was 10 and would put various size boxes around my small back yard and I'd crawl around and hide behind stuff and shoot. Trying to get into the hobby now, got myself a couple of recurve bows for Christmas but I am healing from rotator cuff surgery so I can't do anything but watch videos and learn. Thanks!
I've shot traditional, hybrid, compounds, and crossbows. Personally I tried to be as accurate as possible with all. I hunt and I want to sure that I make a good clean kill shot and that's what I think is more important. In a survival situation being able to be more accurate and make a good kill shot either to put meat on the table or in self-defense is what matter most. In survival being able to think outside of the box and improvise and improve in definitely a good thing. So no complaints here. I say if it help you then more power to you. Good job.
This is actually really cool Lilly! Thanks for the insight!
"So what's for dinner Honey.....?" - "You name it - I'll go and get it....!"
Great course. Great shooting. Who cares what your setup is as long as it works for you. I need to get my bow back out and start to practise again. Thanks Lilly.
I would not say they hate...they just know you have a handy cap
Nice shooting Lilly. I love field archery courses especially with all the difficult shots which mimic the hunt. We had a stream station with a fish target and a platform shot similar to a tree stand. We even had an obscure shot target that required kneeling. I shoot the same release and peep sight but use an elevation adjustable cross hair with neon dot. The elevations are marked in meters so it is easy to adjust in the field. I shoot a compound with high draw weight, but I also shoot recurve and bare bow. The compound is more forgiving when sitting in cold wind for 8 hours and have to quickly draw with stiff arms.
Nice shooting - should put dinner on the table if SHTF.
Shoot the way that makes you happy. I have shot instinctive since I was a kid and i can't get used to sights. I now shoot a compound without sights instinctive and have people give me crap about it. It works me and I am glad to see you found what works for you!
To win at bushcraft...you have to become bushcraft.
Rambo quote
Another one of your terrific videos. You are a remarkable archer and person. Thank you for sharing and inspiring.
ok, I'm out of the loop -- when did she get married ?
A year or so ago. They honeymooned in Hawaii.
Is that when the sand crab video was made??
@@mreyes1964 I think so. (Cool screen name!)
Your video’s came up my feed because I think I watch video’s like demolition ranch. But I enjoyed your video’s so much that I enlisted for a beginner course archery. And if it suits me I will definitely buy the Samick Sage seeing what incredible shots you make with it.
Hi Lilly, does your spouse shoot your bow, or do they have their own?
Great shooting!
They??? Shure she ONLY has 1 husband, must be a typo mess up
2:40
you are describing trigger panic. It's why I moved to a thumb release with compound.
I never have this issue with either fingers, thumb or back tension release - only index trigger releases.
glad to see the setup working out for you
What is the current bag limit on Stegosaurus 😆
I believe they are currently out of season... something about their population size being too low.
About the price of several buffalo...
If they don't like the accessories you use when you shoot just smile and wink at them. It is none of their business. I usually have an 8 inch square piece of gorilla grip drawer and shelf liner in my quiver. It helps get a better grip on the arrow to pull it out of the target. It also helps protect from slivers from beat up wood arrows. I also use it in the shop under wood I am cutting or routering to keep the wood from sliding.
So, you'll need a rangefinder to shoot accurately. Agreed?
Range finder with sights makes hitting the targets much easier.
Excellent video
A coworker and I were recently talking about the recurve vs compound, and release types.
Nice shots by both of you.
Can you put other camera near the target so we can see when it hit
Thank you
Or the target nearer the bow!
Hi there, Lilly, I believe it's better to call that sight "hunting" cause there's no categories like that. It's just like single pin olimpic sights and multiple pins hunting sights in different variations 😉
Greetings from Ukraine
Eugen
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Lilly thank you so much for making this video. I live in Florida and there aren’t any traditional archery shops anywhere near me. Therefore I don’t have any help to fix my form, anchor, release, etc. I’ve shot traditional for a few years and just can’t get consistent on my own. So I just bought a sight for my bow. Hopefully it will help me get more consistent bc I don’t feel comfortable hunting with it currently without a sight. The trad archery’s may hate us but we will make more accurate ethical shots on wild game!
I don't believe any rational person gives a crap about someone else's setup. If you need pins, peep, and a trigger to hit something, that's your business.
What a blast that you two could film and do all this together!
Well, U had a miss, A few slightly off, BUT BY-GOD you Nailed that “ONE MEAN MOTHER” there @ the very end🥵 ‼️
That RAPTOR is the one YOU really DID NOT WANT TO MISS before he snatched you up & gulped you down !
Your doggie too i suspect 😱 !!! 😂😂😂 WELL DONE👍... Me 😳❓ I would have been DINNER for the Velociraptor 😰
The nice thing about archery is that it is a choose your own adventure kind of pursuit. You can shoot this bow with or without all of the added components and if you are enjoying your experience that is all that matters. For me personally the reason why I shoot "traditional" off the shelf no sights, no peep, no release aids is that its a challenge. The first time I shot a compound bow I was hitting the 10 and 12s immediately it was like playing a game with all the cheat codes on for me personally I did not get anything from that experience. But shooting a longbow with no accessories puts very little between you and the tip of the arrow and its all on you if you fail or not.
But just a bit of info if you plan on competing with a single string bow or plan on hunting in a traditional only hunting unit you cant have any of this on your bow other than the rest.
6:40 what kind of target was this supposed to be? a hornets nest??
Hello Lilly - great shooting. You may want to try a thumb or a single-jaw type of release. The one that you are using is prone to hanging up because the jaws don't always open properly.
8:43 (To her husband) "Err, honey... eyes up here, please."
You can hear right at 2:37 that it is not a husband, issa wife. Further evidence would be that both arrows go in the targets the same amount and generally a husband would pull a higher draw weight than his wife.
@@sean3603 csi Sean. Impressive.
@@joelucero6703 thanks brother 😂👌
Very unique setup you're shooting. Looks like it works well.
The only way to revolutionize a sport is to divorce conventional thinking. Let the Traditional Archers live in their ignorance which in fact is the best punishment..!
I might disagree with you here...I shoot both traditional and compound. With a traditional bow, there is no let-off of holding pressure like a compound. With a recurve or longbow, the longer you aim, the longer you have to hold the weight back, which causes your muscles to tremble and makes your aim off. If you’re using a small-weight bow, no biggie. A big enough bow to hunt and do more than target practice, man you’re shaking while you aim. That’s like telling a sniper to be precise and then put him in the back of a truck on a gravel road...it just isn’t going to happen. I get her point, but literally decades of science and research says otherwise.
I just put my sammick together today ( bought it 5 years ago ) about time !! But I've been so busy watching your form I haven't worked on mine ..great vid .thanks 👍
I've always wanted to shoot like Legolas... I've only been shooting a bit over a year, and very early in the piece I realised I couldn't hit the side of a barn with my recurve. So I reluctantly bought a (lots of moving bits ready to break) compound bow and tried it without the stupid extra piece of equipment destined to fail call a "release" and still couldn't hit the side of a barn. Yet with the release I could hit a 200mm target (deer kill-zone) consistently at 50m. So I put a D-loop on my recurve and used the release - OMG what a difference... (still not as accurate as the compound, but at least some consistency) I'd always planned to put a peep/sight on it, this video has motivated me - Thanks Lilly! :)
Du bist und bleibst die Beste. Ich hoffe dir geht es gut. 😊 Bleib Gesund
Wow you are very good. I just started Archery. I’m taking classes and I’ve gotten better. I’ve been using a recurve bow to start off with. I want to get a lot better. What should I start off with compound or recurve bow? What kind of recurve bows you recommend. I want to add accessories to my bows.
There's nothing wrong with putting sights on a recurve, I'm about to do it myself. They come with mounts... Good shooting Lilly!!
Im new to archery and i love your videos, your videos are basicly what got me into archery
Nice shooting today Lilly! You always look like your having fun, and you're also teaching us some skill. Everyone wins!
Die Compoundjungs legen etwa 80% der Kraft am Trigger an, und die restlichen 20% damit der Schuss bricht ziehen die dann mit der Kompletten Hand nach hinten. Somit nimmt man die seitwärts Bewegung beim Abzug raus.
The release is the biggest single thing you can use to improve your shooting as a clean release with finger tabs is an art form that takes decades to perfect. Next the sight with rear peep.. Have you ever tried the under the chin draw. You literally kiss the bow string. Things are more in line but its more often used with a compound bow in target archery. Your doing fine for what you have. Keep eliminating variables. You need to be shooting other than wood arrows. Not sure maybe you are. Aluminum or carbon fiber or any material that can not retain moisture or have density variation. Or warp.
Interesting. Thanks for the detailed product infos.
How many lbs is your bow?
I started out with all that targeting gear on a compound, been shooting bare recurves and long bows for the last thirteen years, you're still the best
love the quiver, has a nice post apocalyptic touch
Try holding the bow with your hand open or with just one finger wrapped around the bows riser. That way you won't torque the bow when you release your arrow. torqueing is when you hold the bow tight and your wrist is holding pressure to the side and when you release it you wrist will snap back straight.
3:41 Double lung shots typically kill quicker than heart shots. Also, sometimes you can hit the spine if you shoot high. A spine shot kills almost instantly.
Edit: The spine shot does not kill them instantly. It paralyzes them. So that means you have to dispatch them with a second shot.
That's backwards. Heart shots typically kill faster than lung shots. Always helps to have a complete pass through on the double lung too. Depending on the species you can hit the heart and lungs. You'll watch that animal die.
Hello Lilly. I enjoy your channel from here in Texas. Broadheads fly significantly differently that target tipped arrows. Do you have a range with broadhead-capable targets and do you practice with them? Small game can be taken with target arrows perhaps and in a survival scenario which may be sufficient if abundant enough.
awesome content Lilly! love your work and channel, keep staying wild! the outdoors are amazing, been a fan of your content for a while
Ps. I am also getting/learning about archery!
I think this makes sense from a survival perspective. Compound bows are more complicated and thus, more can go wrong. This is sort of a "best of breed(s)" in a practical sense. The *only* thing I would knock it for would be the release mechanism. Again...another possible failure point but less critical than say a cam getting bent or what not.
Wondering why you are using a rubber band for the peep sight. If you would use a non elastic material like a center serving string, you would have an effective draw length control. That would be beneficial especially at larger distances.
Softening the grip with your left hand will help with pulling shots...I struggle with the same thing. Left hand should just be a cradle, not actually holding anything
I would add a kisser button also. I don't care what traditional archers think. Whatever works for you. That's what's matters. A drop away rest could possibly also improve the accuracy. I shoot compound bow. Tight groups at 25m are pretty easy with compound bow. I'm a worse shooter with my air pistol.
Such an awesome set up with all the 3D targets
It's amazing seeing a sight system on a traditional bow. It looks great. I have seen eccentric on a traditional bow and it shoot way better.
Hi Lilly. Love your channel. Great you shoot a recurve. They are so much fun to shoot. I was wondering what pound draw is your bow. You pull and hold so effortlessly. Great job!!
Nice video, I shot field archery for years and if I could give you one piece of advice , get rid of the the grip strap they will cause you torque the bow, they look cool and they give you some confidence that you won't drop the bow after the shot but belive me you won't drip the bow .
Hi Lilly,
did you make a video of you attaching everything to your bow , I want to do the same, mainly because I have arthritis in my hands, mainly my right hand and I cant pull back the string conventionally , how did you determine where to put the sight , did you just screw it on with wood screws ?.
lilly thank you, ive taken up archery because of your videos, i find it is helping me with my depression , mumff arrow
Love you and the shoulder quiver,the whole thing
3:34 "in general wild boar have the heart pretty much low" [points behind shoulder bone/upper leg].
I saw this American bow hunting veteran in a video and the summary of all cases he touched in the video: make sure to perforate both lungs. A heart shot will kill very fast, but is more easily missed, I guess. A shot that perforates both lungs will cause fainting and then death, like a heart shot, just a bit slower.
Especially under angles relative to a level and perfectly perpendicular side shot, the "both lung" approach might work better.
(for full transparency, I'm just parroting as an armchair expertologist ;) .)
That's really good accuracy. Better than I can do at 10 meters, but no peep or bow sight.