i just love your videos you are teaching people how to survive outdoors and what is the best stuff to have on you while surviving outdoors keep up the great videos
For bottle cleaning try seasalt (the coarce stuff) and 4-6 drops hand dishwashing liquid and tiny bit of water (roughly same volume of salt), shake vigorously the salt gently scrubs inside and washes out crud easy.
I used that green plastic canteen for 20 years while in the Army. As you said, nothing wrong with it. However, while it is good, during the heat of the day, the water does tend to heat up very easily and can tend to smell like plastic. Taste just like hot water though. lol Good video. Very well covered.
my carry is a 2 litre us military canteen. if you buy metal carriers, make sure it's single walled, non insulated. that material usually melts if you put it on a heat source.
Thanks Lilly.I chose both of the styles you discussed in an earlier video. The round stainless and the original style.The Pathfinder school makes a very nice kit that includes a multituse stove that can use wood or hexamine, or acholhol for flame. The kit has room for a couple days of food, coffee or tea. I have in included a Ferro rod, TP, and attached a good survival knifey to each.If that is all one could grab to "run" to the hills, it would be a start...as long as one was at least dressed.Thank you for your honest reviews and entertaining, informative videos.
My cousin much older than me, brought back a metal canteen and cup from US NAVY when I was 9 years old. Have had that set for 60 years. Still use it and is part of emergency car kit. GREAT VID LILLY, thk you!
You have two U.S. Army canteen cups: the one you identified as such with the butterfly handles, and the one with the L-shaped handle. I have used the plastic U.S. Army canteen, the first one you mentioned, for 34 years, as well as the Nalgene (about 6 of the latter, which I carried in NOLS). Something you do not mention is the advantage of a small mouth: you can close your lips over it, allowing you to swig while still moving. We would never carry just one canteen, however, but two, with one canteen cup. There is a separate NBC cap, however, which allows drinking while wearing a mask. I have have probably half a dozen Nalgenes, and while the wide mouth is very occasionally an advantage, I found it harder to drink on the move. It was a wash at best. I found the conformal shape of the canteen better than the Nalgene, and we had better carrying pounches which were fleece-lined, supporting both evaporative cooling and a LITTLE insulation against freezing. The pouches had a pocket for purification tablets, as well.
A tip on the plastic US-style canteen: Get a Vietnam War era surplus canteen cup. They're relatively inexpensive, and made of stainless steel instead of aluminum. They also have a slightly better handle which can 'lock' in place when in use (and when not in use).
I have both a plastic US-style canteen (actually it's GI issue) and a steel Nalgene bottle (the large one). I use them for different purposes depending on what I'm up to. The plastic canteen was my first, and I've had it the longest. I had a cheap 2-quart plastic (square) canteen, that I believe was made by some less-reputable maker. It was almost as good, but it had imperfections in the seams that did not inspire confidence. Overall, I recommend different kinds of canteens, because in some cases you want lightweight plastic, and in some you want a container you can boil water and cook things in.
@@griff8858 There's lots of reasons people like Aluminium, it's lightweight, relatively durable, and a value option compared to Titanium. Unfortunately Aluminium doesn't like the human body as much as we like it, so while it's not as toxic as lead and other heavy metals it's still not a good idea to be boiling water in it, Titanium and Stainless Steel is much better for food grade cookwear and storage.
I recommend the full British Crusader set, comes with a stove, metal cook tin, cup, metal lid and the whole lot fits perfectly in the back pocket of a bergen with space for lots of hexamine; don't get a copy though, only the genuine ones as the copies are crap.
The US gi issue canteen cup is 316 surgical grade steel also most newer gear is made from materials used by the Army due to the extensive research in use and durability. I have been using my canteen's and cup since 1982! Yes they are indestructible! The only issue in all these years is the plastic tab that holds the cap wore out. I drilled two small holes in the two pieces and used two zip strips. Five years ago. Still holding strong! Love your videos. Not many ladies are at your level or men for that matter! You rock Lilly!
Very good review. 💛 I'm a big Nalgene fan. 1. Metal. 2.Big mouth 3.Matching cup 4. Good screw cap design 5. Reasonable price 6. Good quality production
Totally agree on water bladders. Those are for runners so far as I am concerned. I carry a GSI Outdoors Halulite Tea Kettle instead of a canteen cup and Nalgene Water Bottles with the OTF lids. Nearly as convenient as the tube on a bladder. In my mind, the kettle provides storage for many items when not in use (think, fire kit) heats water rapidly and is also useful for cooking many foods. If only I could find a coffee percolator this useful. Until then, pour through filters kit will do for my coffee addiction.
Very nice presentation I have just a few points 1. Regular cleaning (not the oily residue you described) use denture cleaning tabs 2/canteen & 3/water bladder for bladders you need a camelbak or similar field cleaning kit 2. Canteen cup stoves (stainless steel) used with alcohol stove, heat tabs, or with coals in the fire pit (makes your canteen into a cook system) 3. Should carry at least 4 lt in canteens and or bladder combinations & 2 Canteen cups for Hydration on the move Bladder or 2 canteens on the outside of your pack 2 canteens inside pack for meal prep (bladders are a pain in the A** when it comes to meal prep) with 2 canteens you can refill an empty canteen and add puri tabs and they work while you carry on with your trek 4. single wall metal canteens are best for winter treking as they can be put in the fire to melt frozen water (remember to remove plastic lids first)
The titanium canteen full of water vs the AL canteen filled with water will weigh a very small fraction of 1% difference because almost all the weight is from the water. If you lifted both canteens both full of water (assuming they hold the same amount) you probably couldn't tell the difference. Is that really worth over $100 difference? I like your videos.......
Dr. Don Science , I think what’s important to note here is that the Ti version has a wider mouth and the cup has a lid. Not making it worth so much $ but that’s the nature of Titanium, it’s expensive.
Never proven Chuck. It doesn't mean that you eat aluminium it will get in your blood and will lead to the disease. Besides, a lot of meals are wrapped in aluminium foil. No one complains about that.
Drinking water from an AL canteen will not harm you. The only way AL can leach into a food or liquid substance is if it's highly acidic such as cooking tomatoes in an AL pot. Even tomatoes cause little to no leaching because it's really not that acidic. People who accumulate AL do so by directly ingesting it through antacids and pharmaceuticals which is common in modern society. If you have a prescription there's a good chance it contains AL and you will be ingesting it every day. There are millions of beer/soda beverages consumed every day from AL cans. Most cookware is an AL alloy. AL is one of the most abundant elements and is everywhere. And as a side note, most titanium is really a titanium alloy which can contain combinations of magnesium, nickel, vanadium and AL. The titanium pins and staples that are used surgically contain about 6% AL...... AND I never even said that I favored AL canteens - I prefer stainless steel. In fact I just purchased another 40 oz Klean Kanteen. Nothing beats drinking clean filtered water out of a SS canteen. For long term storage I use 1 small drop Lugol's iodine.....
Dr. Don Science I'll aree on the acidic part. But when the aluminum is broken down in a fire, almost to the point of melting, it gets parts released into the water. That's why people quit bying aluminum pans. Some still buy an aluminum allow with Teflon coating, alluminum has also been linked to dementia and cancer. So, why take the chance. I to have the SS. And am going to do the research on the titanium.
Greetings Ms Lilly from Texas. A humble suggestion. Use your water bladders for dirty water/storage only. Cut the silicone supply tube and install a Sawyer filter (or an inline filter of your choosing). I also install a small carbon filter (for taste) in line next to the Sawyer filter. Installing QD hardware will aid in disconnecting and cleaning your filters. Also speeds up the process when connecting to another bladder (with QD hardware). Using the Sawyer filter for multiple bladders. Load the bladders and keep it near your the site. Saves all those trips to the creek. I agree, cleaning those bladders/lines can be a little pain. Oh that Ti canteen stuff is very nice (and very expensive). Stay healthy girl... Can not understand why anyone would dislike your constructive intelligent comments? This world we have...
Great video Lilly! Just a quick thing, molybdenum is added to steel to make it harder and more wear resistant. Chromium is alloyed with steels to make it corrosion resisting. You may also hear the term Chrome-Molly which is a steel containing both Molybdenum and Chromium which is an alloy that is very tough but also corrosion resistant.
Really helpful. I appreciate your telling us about the ease of cleaning afforded by the out- v in-lip. And the range of products you reviewed. Also great to hear from a woman! Not all of us are gigantic men who can carry heavy weight around! Thank you!
Thank You Lilly! I appreciate how thorough this video is, and add that water hoses are less than ideal in winter weather. This year I found out plastic alcoholic beverage containers add little mass and pack ideally, but certain caps can crack, and drain your water supply) I've been an active outdoors person for a few decades (weekend warrior ski touring, biking, hiking, climbing, helping friends carry meat, etc.), but I just started focusing on survival techniques and prep while starting to volunteer as a Search And Rescue Technician two years ago. I've been doing a lot of learning and trying new gear lately and every time I think I have the best strategy, I learn something new that's easier to carry and I'm starting all over again. I don't yet have a metal water bottle, and the self contained wood fire utility of the one time Ti canteen investment is very attractive. Does the Keith lid seem to be robustly attached if subjected to lots of vibration - as in strapped to a mountain bike? I often need to carry an alcohol stove. Does anybody have experience with GI style cook pots on top of cat food alcohol stoves?
The only one worth bringing on a winter trip is the large mouthed one, because when the water in the canteen freezes (and it will) it'll form a skin of ice on the inside of the canteen blocking off the top, the smaller the opening the harder it will be to chip the "plug" of ice out. Also keep your water bottle upside down as water freezes from the top down, by doing this the ice will be thinner at the opening. By the way Lilly, I enjoy your videos a lot, thank you for taking time to make them for us.
Lilly, very nice video✔✔☺ I am not sure if you are aware, but there's another option using your existing gear. The Nalgene Oasis bottle is designed to hold boiling hot water. So when paired with the USGI canteen cup, water can be boiled in the cup and stored in the canteen. Thus, one gets a super robust, lightweight and cost effective set-up with some time tested and readily available gear!☺☺☺
@@nrgltwrkr2225 Thanks. Just wanted to let you know that the Nalgene canteen is the same dimensions as the USGI, thus the canteen cup and stove will all nest and fit in the USGI canteen pouch or equivalent. Good luck 🤞😃
I actually own the plastic US canteen at the Army Surplus In Spokane it is pretty great i'd also recommend if you have a belt you can buy a cover and put it on the belt.
I actually purchased the Nalgene stainless steel 38 oz bottle after watching some of your past videos and I have to say that it is my favorite. It is a bit bit heavy, but it is a work horse when it comes to boiling water.
So many great options. Buy the USGI set.. Then as you get more experienced, upgrade and move the USGI set to your vehicle as a Winter/emergency survival kit.
Only Nalgene and metal canteens can work as a warm water bottle for sleeping. Nalgene will be easier to open after it cools down. If i can boil water in an ALU Pot, then nalgene is a good answer (it can be washed inside cos of widemouth). Camelbak is needed for journeys through dry areas. Along Nalgene i carry small PET cos it has the mount/screw for sawyer/aquamira.
best cleaning tip half a teaspoon of bicarbonate of soda in half a canteen/bottle of warm water when the fizzing has calmed down you can screw on lid and give your best cocktail bar man impression (vigorous shaking) for a good 30 seconds or so then remove lid allow to stand for 10 minutes or so then rinse thoroughly with cold water and leave to drain, if you've got a bottle brush so much the better 🤘
Very good review!! I have an old GI s/s canteen/cup (carried it in SE Asia almost 50 years ago). Still serves me well. Great video!! I could listen to you talk all day!!
In Arizona- I refer to use a wide mouth stainless steal canteen,cup and lid, plus a second plastic canteen. I can heat water with the steel, once it cools put it in the plastic 1
This was a great video Lilly...keep up the awesome work...love seeing a beautiful woman love the outdoors and survival as you do....My wife and I learn quite a bit from you even though I have a survival background I still learn new things...We appreciate what you do and for promoting the fact that women can enjoy the outdoors as much as anyone else....
Hello. I prefer steel canteens that have very wide mouths. They are easier to clean, and can be packed with supplies. With a stainless cup that nests on it completes a great kit.
I gave up Netflix for your channel lol I've been literally binge watching your videos! Itll be sad when I run out but by then I'll be ready to do some 2-3 day solo bushcraft trips. Thank goodness I can get a lady's expertise on the outdoors when all I've had is a man's. When I am done buying all my gear and finally make a video, I'm so doing it with one of your shirts on simply because you are my primary leaning and teaching source! Bless your soul and keep up the amazing work you do, I'm truly inspired! Ryan
Hi Lily! I used to have plastic smell and taste issues from the canteens I was issued from CIF. Easy way to get it out is 5 ml of chlorine bleach and fill it up with hot water. Let it sit, shake it, and pour it out. Should take care of it
For me its the UK military 58 pattern webbing bottle with plastic cup on top (which can be replaced by the metal crusader kidney shape cup); carried one of these in the army no problems, and as long as they are original MOD bottles they are bomb proof; we used to fill one up and play rugby with it, you can fill it up and throw it at anything and an original bottle will not break or leak.
Opaque canteens and water bladders will have less tendency to get moldy. The sunlight encourages the growth of some molds. I like carrying one stainless steel water bottle, and one very large Smart Water bottle. TRhe Smart Water bottles have a seamless inside that cleans easily, and they cost almost nothing. They're throw-aways. Toss them, when they get cruddy.
How do you find the cleanliness of the interior fold around the inside of the canteen? Does it get festering and hard to clean? Also have you seen anyone crack the canteen around the bend/fold around the middle of the canteen? I’ve heard that the fold around any canteen including stainless steel canteens are its weakest point?
When i am at work i use a plastic Nalgene bottle with stainless steel nesting cup. When i am walking in the mountains or woods i use either the M-1910 stainless steel replica canteen set. Or another surplus canteen the Yugoslavian kit or the VDV paratroop canteen set. I am not scared of aluminium we have been using it in the army for 100+ years before the plastic bottle with nesting cup (aluminium) came. I only use stainless steel a lot when it needs to be able to take punishment.
Cool things to think about, I know many hikers like disposable water bottles, but for more long term camping I can see how something more heavy duty would work better.
Thanks for the review. I have two Nalgene plastic and two SRO 32 oz and one 64 oz Stainless I also have their Canteen and cup set. I also have two US Army canteens and cups one plastic and one metal. Most of the time I carry the two 32 oz SRO bottles and cups.
Another way is to carry two large Smart Water bottles (which weigh nothing) and a metal container to boil water. Lots of through-hikers use this method. You can buy water filters which screw directly on to the Smart Water bottles. UA-cam has many videos explaining how to use this system.
Great video Lilly. I have to say, i agree. I have had many many water containers over the years. I used to love my Nalgene bottles, and still do for some tasks. Military canteens, plastic and steel, but recently i broke the bank and bought a Keith Titanium Canteen Mess Kit, and im in love with it. I do keep a 40 oz double wall insulated Hydro Flask with me as well. I know it weighs a little more, but i love to boil some water in the titanium cup, fill the canteen, attache some paracord to the ring on the lid, and drop the canteen back into the stream or river to cool, then transfer the now cool water into my Hydro Flask. My Hydro Flask keeps it cool for drinking, which to me is super important. Nothing like a cold drink of water to quench your thirst when out in the bush. But yeah i find the Keith Titanium Canteen, though expensive, if you can afford it, an indispensable part of my kit. The lid works great also. Good choice. I do recommend a nice 32 oz - 40 oz Hydro Flask water bottle to accompany it though.
I like aluminium bottles best as they can be heated to sterilize water or used as a sleeping bag warmer. Aluminum used in cookware is not poisonous in any way. Sometimes I just use a couple of 1/2L PET bottles.
Hello Lilly. According to ASTM A193, the chemical properties of grade B8 or AISI 304 stainless steel are as follows: Carbon 0.08% max, Manganese 2.00% max, Phosphorus 0.045% max, Sulfur 0.030% max, Silicon 1.00% max, Chromium 18.0 to 20.0%, Nickel 8.0 to 11.0%. No value is given for Molybdenum. Grade B8M or AISI 316 stainless steel is similar to 304 with the following exceptions: Chromium 16.0 to 18.0%, Nickel 10.0 to 14.0%, and Molybdenum 2.00 to 3.00%. I hope you find this information useful.
I carry a klean kanteen 2L. When I find a pot that nests to it snugly, I will have my perfect carry. I would never use anything other than single wall stainless steel. Like Doc Don Science says, the weight savings of other materials is negligible next to the weight of the water. The best way I know of the clean out a funky water bottle or bladder is hot (not boiling) water and a denture cleaning tablet. Clean the drink tube by squeezing water through it. Just rinse well afterward. Bladders do have an advantage of being able to roll up and stuff them into an EDC. Mine has a hydrapak seeker 2L and a katadyn befree filter. When paired with the KK I can collect, filter, and boil 2L at a time.
I love water bladers for the quick access to water when I'm biking or hiking but it's so true that everything tastes of plastic and they are a pain to clean. I store mine in the freezer to prevent weird moisture growth in the tube.
Personally, you can't go wrong with the 1qt G.I. canteen. As someone stated, the nesting cup/pot was switched to a stainless steel one with a much better handle during the Vietnam War era. However, as with almost anything U.S. military..it's a system. It's more likeable with an LC-2 canteen pouch. Having it in the pouch hinders freezing, especially if you keep it close to your body. Also you can soak the pouch in water to keep it cooler in hot weather.
Fantastic overview of the different canteens and cups available. We have several different ones also, as we have found all of ours in either thrift shops or online. We have a cup for each person in our family, but we don't have canteens for each person, so we have to carry a separate water bottle. We haven't had any issues with that as of yet. I really like the Keith titanium canteen and cup set, but man the price! I do see the value in it, especially since it has the lids and also has loops on both the lid for the canteen and the lid to the cup. :) Thanks again for such a great overview! Love it, Lilly!
Thanks for the video, always entertaining. Boiling water is effective but slow, if I can carry fire making tools I can carry a filter or for emergency use, some tablets (which will kill bacteria in the bottle anyway).My Sawyer filter won't fit any of those canteens so I need a standard plastic bottle or Sawyer type water bag. I'm happy to light a fire to make tea if I'm camping but in a real survival situation I need to be moving or calling for rescue if I can't walk out. I don't want to have to light a fire every time I refill my water bottle!Just my opinion, thanks again.
Waterbladders are easy to maintain. Buy the cleaning brush keep it in your water blader pouch, camelbak put room for them so do US GI ones. If fou dont back wach into them they will stay cleaner too
I went to medical school. The plastic water bladders are perfectly fine and can be disinfected with chlorine if necessary but quick fill with a pump water filter is probably best.
Hello Lilly. If your having problems with hydration bladders you have tried, why not check out a pressurised hydration bladder that turns inside out for very easy cleaning and as the bladder is divided into 2 parts, the pressurised part puts pressure on the water part of the bladder to squirt the water out under pressure, so no sucking involved. It also works with inline water filters and is found on the aquamira website as they own GEIGERRIG. I was surprised you did not compare the very popular Kleen Kanteen bottles or the pathfinder canteen set as lots of people either own them or are planning to own them but it’s a good comparison between a lot of different types and priced canteen sets.
I have the Nalgene Oasis canteen and Nalgene Stainless Steel bottle, and I absolutely love them. Great products. I said I'd NEVER buy a titanium canteen... and then I bought a Keith Titanium Canteen kit (with cup). I'm totally sold on the Keith Titanium kit setup, it's now my #1 go-to system for carrying and boiling water.
One of Lilly's stated reasons for using a metal canteen is "you can heat water in it". Later, she says she does not cook with the titanium canteen because it will get the inside of the cup dirty when stored. Well, if you are not going to cook with the canteen then why carry the heavier, noisier metal canteen? One possibility she mentioned in passing at the end of the video. If you pour hot water from the cup to the canteen, a plastic/Nalgene bottle might not handle hot water as well. conclusion. Cooking with the canteen is not a consideration. I do like the wide mouth of the titanium canteen. Though I never tried to drink from one while walking, which you can do with a standard canteen.
I don't like water bladders either. In winter you have to deal with the hose freezing. Hard to refill in the field. I like wide mouth bottles because they are easier to fill with snow.
I would probably choose the titanium canteen set also. But I personally like to boil water in a small pot, and poor it into my Nalgene bottle. The bottle fits inside the pot, and fits well in my pack. I also have bladders, but I agree with what you said about them. I like them for things like biking, because it's convenient. You just have to flush it after every use, and they sell cleaning kits that make them easier to clean.
I like wide mouth stainless canteen and cup. US GI type. And plastic GI canteens. And stainless canteen cook stove. I like US canteen covers lc1 and 2 to carry these. On some I sew a strap to carry it over the shoulder. As opposed to on a belt.
I have several of the od green plastic military canteens and one way I found to get away from the plastic taste and smell is to keep them full of water when you are not using them and then when you are going to take it out on a trip dump that water out and fill it with fresh water and the smell and taste is gone great video thank you
Good reviews Lilly. I have camel backs for mountain biking, the way we clean them is by using Milton ( baby steriliser tablets ) and leave to soak in the bottle
I think the clear plastic and titanium cups would be a good combo if youre not willing to dirty the titanium canteen itself and would be more light weight
The US Army canteen can be bleached in over 20 years of service I had everything inside one coffee from a mess to beer from a keg . It cleans well and is a rugged container. Have fun stay safe.
A❤ 4:40 Yes I use a combination of canteens. Us army style stainless steel. And made in Sweden by Gotland comes with cup and cover . British army type is similar but plastic. Or fill and go hard plastic but does have a built in water filter and spout. Is quite robust. Made by Britta. Had these some time and are good in service. Bcb as issued in uk military b cb crusader 2 bottle plastic but bomb proof comes sith cooker and aluminium cup and another one kn plastic. Very good have been used for years..
Great video! I don’t think aluminum is toxic. Aluminum cookware and aluminum foil is used in food service all over the world. May not be the best choice in your comparison here, but don’t worry about it poisoning you.
If a product called OxyClean is available where you live, it can clean water bottles much more effectively than any amount of scrubbing - without any work. OxyClean is an organic peroxide powder. When you return home from a trip in the woods, fill your water bottle with water about 30 degrees C and add 10 grams of OxyClean. Leave the bottle in the kitchen sink overnight and rinse it thoroughly the next day. Oxygen bubbles do the scrubbing for you and reach places that brushes cannot.
Never throw away your MRE heaters. Warm to hot water in winter is a blessing. Metal canteens are best, you can boil/thaw in the campfire or any heat source. US surplus is bestest, cheapest and thoroughly field tested. If you disinfect water with a few drops Clorox or iodine cleaning is not much of a problem. Uncle Sam will provide! But I do love the titanium canteen. Got to have it!
One thing you might try on that stainless steel canteen where you said it is hard to clean, take a neck chain, like dog tag chain, drop it in and add your detergent and hot water, plug the end with your finger, and shake it around. I say finger instead of the cap because hot water will build up pressure and when you uncap it, the foam will spray everywhere. As for the folded lip on the neck, take a pipe cleaner, fold in half, and then bend the doubled center piece back on itself about half and inch, this can be inserted in the neck and pull the folded piece up under the rim and run it around to clean. I have used both tricks for years on hard to clean containers, I have even used BBs in a bottle to clean out debris. Another good video, keep it up.
I have a military stainless steel canteen and cup, heavy but good to go always, and I have a Nalgene bottle with a titanium nesting cup. Definitely lighter. I also always carry a collapsible bottle. Here there is always water somewhere or snow to melt so I usually only carry the collapsible and 1 “set”
Thank you Lilly. My bag has the stainless steel klean kanteen and a nalgene 32 wide mouth. Also a clear nalgene allows you to do some SODIS purification. Got a stainless steel cup for boiling
Lilly, I personally, like the military canteen set, with the cup, attached. I own 4 of them, and take them with me, into the forest, for camping. I also, boil water, with the cup, then pour, into the canteens.
Great video. I started out with the GI canteen. Over the years I moved up to the titanium canteen with titanium canteen cups and one plastic see through canteen bottle. Also have the military canteen cup shaped stove and lid. Again good job on the information from a ladies point of view. Cheers
304 is excellent stainless. It won't corrode. I used press hear exchanger plates out of it. And the conductive fluid they used to cool water inside the plates is extremely corrosive. To be sure NO steel is that PROOF. However, that is not a factor right because we dont store our canteens with water in them right? We also don't leave them laying around right? Stainless is cheap and durable and light enough for a small object.
I've been carrying the original US Army steel canteen and cup in the canvas case that clips to my web belt for about 30 years. I like the looks of the titanium one though. I also have a tall round one similar to yours.. And a 1 quart Stanley steel water bottle.I don't cook in them , I have a mess kit for that. I have a couple of SOLO rocket stoves , one for a coffee pot and one for food. You would think all this cooking gear takes up a lot of room in your back pack but you can put other stuff inside them.
Another great video Lilly. Ive got the stainless steel canteen but have plastic 2 liter canteen to go with it. I’m in the eastern US and three liters is usually more than enough to go between water sources even on hot days. Then there’s the weight of the water. An extra 3 kilos of water isn’t fun to carry but I like what it does for me.
The first canteen, including the aluminum cup, is the one the danish armed forces use. The cup is made for small spiritburners, not for a full log fire.
Nice job Lilly you could update this with David C's new cook set, which i have. It has some faults though Internal lip to bottle - place for bugs to hide fine Thread on cap- requires fine motor skills unretained Cap- can be lost or cross threaded good kit despite that
I have one of the military issue plastic canteen's and got it from the unit I was stationed in while in the Air Force. It has the nozzle on the cap so a water hose from a chemical warfare mask can be attached to it without having to remove the mask. All of those canteens you have are nice for putting drinking water in, but would not use them to heat water in, or put hot water in. I have a cup and food container which can be used to heat water in and keep them in one of my backpacks. I agree with you about the water bladder and I would not want to drink water from it either. The metal containers for heating up water in can be purchased from Amazon and they are not too high. Wal-Mart also sell them and theirs are made in China, and light weight.
Army plastic, and stainless steel cup.. only cause it was my issue cup during Vietnam.. like the nalgeen plastic wide mouth, which you didn't show, but it is easy to clean.. great video.. thanks..
The first water bottle is my personal favorite only reason is I went to wish it's a site that you can get good gear from and I got that water bottle on the first one and I also started scrolling down and I found this as well potpan outdoor set lightweight I put that water bottle in and it works tremendously it all combined into one and it's cheaper than the $150 one I've noticed I've been a long time screwdriver I enjoy watching your videos thank you for all the information that you have provided to me
From my experience the lower heat conductivity in a canteen the better, because you wan't to use the cup for boiling anyways. That way you can keep your water from freezing in arctic conditions. This also leads to a huge drawback of water bladders/hydration systems which are prone to freezing (especially along the drinking tube), so a canteen is a must in a cold climate. On the other hand, a water bladder is great in a hot environment because the ease of access makes you drink water more frequently and keeps you from getting dehydrated from laziness :D Cleaning those things might be difficult, but I had water sitting in those things for months at a time and it was fine. Tasted bit like plastic (possibly will give me cancer in the future) but I didn't get sick, so bacterial growth doesn't seem to be a big issue here.
If left out over night in sub zero tempratures,which of these bottles cracks or leaks due to ice expansion ? Also if you fill them with hot water and use in your sleeping bag as a heat source,know that, the self inflating camping mats fail. (due to the glue that holds the fabric to the sponge melting,this results in a blistered mattress.)
Lilly you are totally awesome, would you consider doing survival courses? You could teach shelter building, fire starting and forestry. Perhaps even an over nighter at some point. What you are teaching is super important, in this day and age people are too reliant on convenience foods and need at least some basic skills. I believe every child in school should be taught first aid and basic survival skills.
I used to use and love a lot of canteens but have switched over to Smart water bottles for weight and volume considerations. If I need to boil ( I usually use a filter) then I can with my titanium or steel cup/pot. Having said all that though, I love the Keith products and will likely pick up one of those canteen sets in the future. Thanks for the reviews!
I'm using the one i held on to after retiring from teaching USAF pilot survival school. I also have my camel back hydration system and no plastic taste. requires a long wire small bottle brush to clean it up. sold on base at uniform store
As a BOY SCOUT and US ARMY Veteran I have always used USGI surplus metal canteens. And cleaned them out with water + Baking Soda. Also I never put any liquid in them but clean water. I also started collecting reproduction historical canteens made of tinned sheet metal, stainless steel, wood, gourds lined with beeswax, and glass bottles covered in leather or woven wicker. I do have one West German metal mess kit with a canteen type cup that fits the mess kit lid perfectly. I actually use it to store muzzle loading percussion caps and modern reloading primers for brass cartridge cases, because it is metal and air tight. As a Mess kit the bucket bottom could be used to store rations or boil water/cook soup. The friction fit canteen cup lid could be also used to boil water. The only other surplus canteen I own is an early 20th Century, Swedish metal one. It has a wider metal screw on cap. I also have 2 WW1 round Canteen-like Army hospital Aluminum Hot Water bottles used to help keep patients warm under their blankets in field hospitals.
+Survival Lilly Outstanding review of canteen options. For sanitizing a water bladder, I fill it with water, then add about 1/2 teaspoon (2.5ml) of sodium hypochlorite bleach and seal the system up for a couple of hours, turning it upside down and loosening the cap so a little so that some water spills out onto the threads of the cap, then tighten them again. I also run so water through the outlet tube by hanging the bladder, then pinching the bite valve and letting water flow for a couple of minutes. After a couple of hours, I empty it, drain the outlet tube, and hang it up again with the cap off. It air dries in a few hours and is ready for next time. Cheers.
Will the USGI Canteen or Nalgene Oasis fit nicely in the Keith Canteen Cup? Fantastic video Lilly, really amazing content. I don't know if you'd reply, but I'd be most gracious. Thank you in advance.
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i just love your videos you are teaching people how to survive outdoors and what is the best stuff to have on you while surviving outdoors keep up the great videos
Survival Lilly I love the titanium canteen!
Thanks Lily for the video. I would also choose the Keith.
For bottle cleaning try seasalt (the coarce stuff) and 4-6 drops hand dishwashing liquid and tiny bit of water (roughly same volume of salt), shake vigorously the salt gently scrubs inside and washes out crud easy.
Survival Lilly love you lilly
Nalgene for me every time . Great video
Hey big fan, I agree the Rothco stuff is pretty cheap
I actually buy my nalgene bottle thanks to you.
Cheers from Mexico.
Nice and light waight but id rather be able to boil watter so stanless or titanium is king
@@justacentrist4147 nalgene makes a steel bottle
@Manletopia That is good to know. But not really what the coment was about
I used that green plastic canteen for 20 years while in the Army. As you said, nothing wrong with it. However, while it is good, during the heat of the day, the water does tend to heat up very easily and can tend to smell like plastic. Taste just like hot water though. lol Good video. Very well covered.
David Beasley the water will heat up in anyone that you have in the environments that we operated in
I have that one, I like it alot lol
I think it was the NBC valve that made the water taste funny
Yugo 90s plastic bottles usualy got washed with a bit of salt in the clean water before filling it... could work...
@@ianbyers1250 why you think that?
my carry is a 2 litre us military canteen. if you buy metal carriers, make sure it's single walled, non insulated. that material usually melts if you put it on a heat source.
Thanks Lilly.I chose both of the styles you discussed in an earlier video. The round stainless and the original style.The Pathfinder school makes a very nice kit that includes a multituse stove that can use wood or hexamine, or acholhol for flame. The kit has room for a couple days of food, coffee or tea. I have in included a Ferro rod, TP, and attached a good survival knifey to each.If that is all one could grab to "run" to the hills, it would be a start...as long as one was at least dressed.Thank you for your honest reviews and entertaining, informative videos.
My cousin much older than me, brought back a metal canteen and cup from US NAVY when I was 9 years old. Have had that set for 60 years. Still use it and is part of emergency car kit. GREAT VID LILLY, thk you!
You have two U.S. Army canteen cups: the one you identified as such with the butterfly handles, and the one with the L-shaped handle. I have used the plastic U.S. Army canteen, the first one you mentioned, for 34 years, as well as the Nalgene (about 6 of the latter, which I carried in NOLS). Something you do not mention is the advantage of a small mouth: you can close your lips over it, allowing you to swig while still moving. We would never carry just one canteen, however, but two, with one canteen cup. There is a separate NBC cap, however, which allows drinking while wearing a mask. I have have probably half a dozen Nalgenes, and while the wide mouth is very occasionally an advantage, I found it harder to drink on the move. It was a wash at best. I found the conformal shape of the canteen better than the Nalgene, and we had better carrying pounches which were fleece-lined, supporting both evaporative cooling and a LITTLE insulation against freezing. The pouches had a pocket for purification tablets, as well.
A tip on the plastic US-style canteen: Get a Vietnam War era surplus canteen cup. They're relatively inexpensive, and made of stainless steel instead of aluminum. They also have a slightly better handle which can 'lock' in place when in use (and when not in use).
I have both a plastic US-style canteen (actually it's GI issue) and a steel Nalgene bottle (the large one). I use them for different purposes depending on what I'm up to. The plastic canteen was my first, and I've had it the longest. I had a cheap 2-quart plastic (square) canteen, that I believe was made by some less-reputable maker. It was almost as good, but it had imperfections in the seams that did not inspire confidence. Overall, I recommend different kinds of canteens, because in some cases you want lightweight plastic, and in some you want a container you can boil water and cook things in.
Why do people hate aluminum? It's cheap and it's lasted my whole life.
@@griff8858 because aluminium is toxic
@@griff8858 There's lots of reasons people like Aluminium, it's lightweight, relatively durable, and a value option compared to Titanium.
Unfortunately Aluminium doesn't like the human body as much as we like it, so while it's not as toxic as lead and other heavy metals it's still not a good idea to be boiling water in it, Titanium and Stainless Steel is much better for food grade cookwear and storage.
@@griff8858it melts easily!
Efferdent is good for cleaning canteens periodically.
I wouldn't have thought of that. Do you think it might react with the metal in any negative way?
I do not think it would as long as you rinse it good after cleaning.
I recommend the full British Crusader set, comes with a stove, metal cook tin, cup, metal lid and the whole lot fits perfectly in the back pocket of a bergen with space for lots of hexamine; don't get a copy though, only the genuine ones as the copies are crap.
--Aaaannnd the Crusader canteen is plastic.
@@duncanidaho2097 there is a crusader plastic cup and a metal cup that go around the bottle but ok lol
The US gi issue canteen cup is 316 surgical grade steel also most newer gear is made from materials used by the Army due to the extensive research in use and durability. I have been using my canteen's and cup since 1982! Yes they are indestructible! The only issue in all these years is the plastic tab that holds the cap wore out. I drilled two small holes in the two pieces and used two zip strips. Five years ago. Still holding strong! Love your videos. Not many ladies are at your level or men for that matter! You rock Lilly!
Very good review. 💛
I'm a big Nalgene fan.
1. Metal. 2.Big mouth 3.Matching cup 4. Good screw cap design 5. Reasonable price 6. Good quality production
Totally agree on water bladders. Those are for runners so far as I am concerned. I carry a GSI Outdoors Halulite Tea Kettle instead of a canteen cup and Nalgene Water Bottles with the OTF lids. Nearly as convenient as the tube on a bladder. In my mind, the kettle provides storage for many items when not in use (think, fire kit) heats water rapidly and is also useful for cooking many foods. If only I could find a coffee percolator this useful. Until then, pour through filters kit will do for my coffee addiction.
Very nice presentation I have just a few points
1. Regular cleaning (not the oily residue you described) use denture cleaning tabs 2/canteen & 3/water bladder
for bladders you need a camelbak or similar field cleaning kit
2. Canteen cup stoves (stainless steel) used with alcohol stove, heat tabs, or with coals in the fire pit (makes your canteen into a cook system)
3. Should carry at least 4 lt in canteens and or bladder combinations & 2 Canteen cups
for Hydration on the move Bladder or 2 canteens on the outside of your pack 2 canteens inside pack for meal prep (bladders are a pain in the A** when it comes to meal prep)
with 2 canteens you can refill an empty canteen and add puri tabs and they work while you carry on with your trek
4. single wall metal canteens are best for winter treking as they can be put in the fire to melt frozen water (remember to remove plastic lids first)
The titanium canteen full of water vs the AL canteen filled with water will weigh a very small fraction of 1% difference because almost all the weight is from the water. If you lifted both canteens both full of water (assuming they hold the same amount) you probably couldn't tell the difference. Is that really worth over $100 difference? I like your videos.......
Dr. Don Science , I think what’s important to note here is that the Ti version has a wider mouth and the cup has a lid. Not making it worth so much $ but that’s the nature of Titanium, it’s expensive.
Dr. Don Science maybe it would be a good idea to study up on the effects of aluminum and the relationship to dimentia and other health problems.
Never proven Chuck. It doesn't mean that you eat aluminium it will get in your blood and will lead to the disease. Besides, a lot of meals are wrapped in aluminium foil. No one complains about that.
Drinking water from an AL canteen will not harm you. The only way AL can leach into a food or liquid substance is if it's highly acidic such as cooking tomatoes in an AL pot. Even tomatoes cause little to no leaching because it's really not that acidic. People who accumulate AL do so by directly ingesting it through antacids and pharmaceuticals which is common in modern society. If you have a prescription there's a good chance it contains AL and you will be ingesting it every day. There are millions of beer/soda beverages consumed every day from AL cans. Most cookware is an AL alloy. AL is one of the most abundant elements and is everywhere. And as a side note, most titanium is really a titanium alloy which can contain combinations of magnesium, nickel, vanadium and AL. The titanium pins and staples that are used surgically contain about 6% AL...... AND I never even said that I favored AL canteens - I prefer stainless steel. In fact I just purchased another 40 oz Klean Kanteen. Nothing beats drinking clean filtered water out of a SS canteen. For long term storage I use 1 small drop Lugol's iodine.....
Dr. Don Science I'll aree on the acidic part. But when the aluminum is broken down in a fire, almost to the point of melting, it gets parts released into the water. That's why people quit bying aluminum pans. Some still buy an aluminum allow with Teflon coating, alluminum has also been linked to dementia and cancer. So, why take the chance. I to have the SS. And am going to do the research on the titanium.
Greetings Ms Lilly from Texas. A humble suggestion. Use your water bladders for dirty water/storage only. Cut the silicone supply tube and install a Sawyer filter (or an inline filter of your choosing). I also install a small carbon filter (for taste) in line next to the Sawyer filter. Installing QD hardware will aid in disconnecting and cleaning your filters. Also speeds up the process when connecting to another bladder (with QD hardware). Using the Sawyer filter for multiple bladders. Load the bladders and keep it near your the site. Saves all those trips to the creek. I agree, cleaning those bladders/lines can be a little pain.
Oh that Ti canteen stuff is very nice (and very expensive).
Stay healthy girl...
Can not understand why anyone would dislike your constructive intelligent comments?
This world we have...
I like the Swiss military cook set, It comes with an aluminum bottle cup and wood burning stove.
Excellent description of what is available. That AND pros and cons, and the valuable opinion of one of the best... Survival Lilly! Thanks Lilly.
Great video Lilly! Just a quick thing, molybdenum is added to steel to make it harder and more wear resistant. Chromium is alloyed with steels to make it corrosion resisting. You may also hear the term Chrome-Molly which is a steel containing both Molybdenum and Chromium which is an alloy that is very tough but also corrosion resistant.
Really helpful. I appreciate your telling us about the ease of cleaning afforded by the out- v in-lip. And the range of products you reviewed. Also great to hear from a woman! Not all of us are gigantic men who can carry heavy weight around! Thank you!
Thank You Lilly! I appreciate how thorough this video is, and add that water hoses are less than ideal in winter weather. This year I found out plastic alcoholic beverage containers add little mass and pack ideally, but certain caps can crack, and drain your water supply) I've been an active outdoors person for a few decades (weekend warrior ski touring, biking, hiking, climbing, helping friends carry meat, etc.), but I just started focusing on survival techniques and prep while starting to volunteer as a Search And Rescue Technician two years ago. I've been doing a lot of learning and trying new gear lately and every time I think I have the best strategy, I learn something new that's easier to carry and I'm starting all over again. I don't yet have a metal water bottle, and the self contained wood fire utility of the one time Ti canteen investment is very attractive. Does the Keith lid seem to be robustly attached if subjected to lots of vibration - as in strapped to a mountain bike? I often need to carry an alcohol stove. Does anybody have experience with GI style cook pots on top of cat food alcohol stoves?
The only one worth bringing on a winter trip is the large mouthed one, because when the water in the canteen freezes (and it will) it'll form a skin of ice on the inside of the canteen blocking off the top, the smaller the opening the harder it will be to chip the "plug" of ice out. Also keep your water bottle upside down as water freezes from the top down, by doing this the ice will be thinner at the opening. By the way Lilly, I enjoy your videos a lot, thank you for taking time to make them for us.
Lilly, very nice video✔✔☺ I am not sure if you are aware, but there's another option using your existing gear. The Nalgene Oasis bottle is designed to hold boiling hot water. So when paired with the USGI canteen cup, water can be boiled in the cup and stored in the canteen. Thus, one gets a super robust, lightweight and cost effective set-up with some time tested and readily available gear!☺☺☺
@@nrgltwrkr2225 Thanks. Just wanted to let you know that the Nalgene canteen is the same dimensions as the USGI, thus the canteen cup and stove will all nest and fit in the USGI canteen pouch or equivalent. Good luck 🤞😃
@@BingWatcher Great to know! Thanks again. :-)
Right on time. Backpacking next Sunday to the german Eifel national parc for four days. Still need a waterbottle or canteen.
I actually own the plastic US canteen at the Army Surplus In Spokane it is pretty great i'd also recommend if you have a belt you can buy a cover and put it on the belt.
I actually purchased the Nalgene stainless steel 38 oz bottle after watching some of your past videos and I have to say that it is my favorite. It is a bit bit heavy, but it is a work horse when it comes to boiling water.
So many great options. Buy the USGI set..
Then as you get more experienced, upgrade and move the USGI set to your vehicle as a Winter/emergency survival kit.
Only Nalgene and metal canteens can work as a warm water bottle for sleeping. Nalgene will be easier to open after it cools down. If i can boil water in an ALU Pot, then nalgene is a good answer (it can be washed inside cos of widemouth). Camelbak is needed for journeys through dry areas. Along Nalgene i carry small PET cos it has the mount/screw for sawyer/aquamira.
Be advised if the GI canteen is full in winter conditions & the water freezes solid. The canteen can burst.
I love the titanium one but the price is insane 😱
best cleaning tip half a teaspoon of bicarbonate of soda in half a canteen/bottle of warm water when the fizzing has calmed down you can screw on lid and give your best cocktail bar man impression (vigorous shaking) for a good 30 seconds or so then remove lid allow to stand for 10 minutes or so then rinse thoroughly with cold water and leave to drain, if you've got a bottle brush so much the better 🤘
Very good review!! I have an old GI s/s canteen/cup (carried it in SE Asia almost 50 years ago). Still serves me well. Great video!! I could listen to you talk all day!!
In Arizona- I refer to use a wide mouth stainless steal canteen,cup and lid, plus a second plastic canteen. I can heat water with the steel, once it cools put it in the plastic 1
To clean metal water bottles with narrow necks, fill with near-boiling water and add 1 or 2 denture cleaning tablets. Then rinse out well.
This was a great video Lilly...keep up the awesome work...love seeing a beautiful woman love the outdoors and survival as you do....My wife and I learn quite a bit from you even though I have a survival background I still learn new things...We appreciate what you do and for promoting the fact that women can enjoy the outdoors as much as anyone else....
Hello. I prefer steel canteens that have very wide mouths. They are easier to clean, and can be packed with supplies. With a stainless cup that nests on it completes a great kit.
I gave up Netflix for your channel lol I've been literally binge watching your videos! Itll be sad when I run out but by then I'll be ready to do some 2-3 day solo bushcraft trips. Thank goodness I can get a lady's expertise on the outdoors when all I've had is a man's. When I am done buying all my gear and finally make a video, I'm so doing it with one of your shirts on simply because you are my primary leaning and teaching source! Bless your soul and keep up the amazing work you do, I'm truly inspired!
Ryan
Why would you need a woman’s expertise as well?
Hi Lily! I used to have plastic smell and taste issues from the canteens I was issued from CIF. Easy way to get it out is 5 ml of chlorine bleach and fill it up with hot water. Let it sit, shake it, and pour it out. Should take care of it
Canteens are fine, but I recommend you carry two to even out the weight distribution when hiking for long periods.
For me its the UK military 58 pattern webbing bottle with plastic cup on top (which can be replaced by the metal crusader kidney shape cup); carried one of these in the army no problems, and as long as they are original MOD bottles they are bomb proof; we used to fill one up and play rugby with it, you can fill it up and throw it at anything and an original bottle will not break or leak.
Opaque canteens and water bladders will have less tendency to get moldy. The sunlight encourages the growth of some molds. I like carrying one stainless steel water bottle, and one very large Smart Water bottle. TRhe Smart Water bottles have a seamless inside that cleans easily, and they cost almost nothing. They're throw-aways. Toss them, when they get cruddy.
I've had the titanium one for a few years now, it''s definitely a worthwhile purchase.
Tough, lightweight, and a good design.
How do you find the cleanliness of the interior fold around the inside of the canteen? Does it get festering and hard to clean? Also have you seen anyone crack the canteen around the bend/fold around the middle of the canteen? I’ve heard that the fold around any canteen including stainless steel canteens are its weakest point?
When i am at work i use a plastic Nalgene bottle with stainless steel nesting cup. When i am walking in the mountains or woods i use either the M-1910 stainless steel replica canteen set. Or another surplus canteen the Yugoslavian kit or the VDV paratroop canteen set. I am not scared of aluminium we have been using it in the army for 100+ years before the plastic bottle with nesting cup (aluminium) came. I only use stainless steel a lot when it needs to be able to take punishment.
Cool things to think about, I know many hikers like disposable water bottles, but for more long term camping I can see how something more heavy duty would work better.
Thanks for the review. I have two Nalgene plastic and two SRO 32 oz and one 64 oz Stainless I also have their Canteen and cup set. I also have two US Army canteens and cups one plastic and one metal. Most of the time I carry the two 32 oz SRO bottles and cups.
Another way is to carry two large Smart Water bottles (which weigh nothing) and a metal container to boil water. Lots of through-hikers use this method. You can buy water filters which screw directly on to the Smart Water bottles. UA-cam has many videos explaining how to use this system.
Great video Lilly. I have to say, i agree. I have had many many water containers over the years. I used to love my Nalgene bottles, and still do for some tasks. Military canteens, plastic and steel, but recently i broke the bank and bought a Keith Titanium Canteen Mess Kit, and im in love with it. I do keep a 40 oz double wall insulated Hydro Flask with me as well. I know it weighs a little more, but i love to boil some water in the titanium cup, fill the canteen, attache some paracord to the ring on the lid, and drop the canteen back into the stream or river to cool, then transfer the now cool water into my Hydro Flask. My Hydro Flask keeps it cool for drinking, which to me is super important. Nothing like a cold drink of water to quench your thirst when out in the bush. But yeah i find the Keith Titanium Canteen, though expensive, if you can afford it, an indispensable part of my kit. The lid works great also. Good choice. I do recommend a nice 32 oz - 40 oz Hydro Flask water bottle to accompany it though.
I like aluminium bottles best as they can be heated to sterilize water or used as a sleeping bag warmer. Aluminum used in cookware is not poisonous in any way. Sometimes I just use a couple of 1/2L PET bottles.
Hello Lilly. According to ASTM A193, the chemical properties of grade B8 or AISI 304 stainless steel are as follows: Carbon 0.08% max, Manganese 2.00% max, Phosphorus 0.045% max, Sulfur 0.030% max, Silicon 1.00% max, Chromium 18.0 to 20.0%, Nickel 8.0 to 11.0%. No value is given for Molybdenum. Grade B8M or AISI 316 stainless steel is similar to 304 with the following exceptions: Chromium 16.0 to 18.0%, Nickel 10.0 to 14.0%, and Molybdenum 2.00 to 3.00%. I hope you find this information useful.
I carry a klean kanteen 2L. When I find a pot that nests to it snugly, I will have my perfect carry.
I would never use anything other than single wall stainless steel. Like Doc Don Science says, the weight savings of other materials is negligible next to the weight of the water.
The best way I know of the clean out a funky water bottle or bladder is hot (not boiling) water and a denture cleaning tablet. Clean the drink tube by squeezing water through it. Just rinse well afterward. Bladders do have an advantage of being able to roll up and stuff them into an EDC. Mine has a hydrapak seeker 2L and a katadyn befree filter. When paired with the KK I can collect, filter, and boil 2L at a time.
I love water bladers for the quick access to water when I'm biking or hiking but it's so true that everything tastes of plastic and they are a pain to clean. I store mine in the freezer to prevent weird moisture growth in the tube.
Personally, you can't go wrong with the 1qt G.I. canteen. As someone stated, the nesting cup/pot was switched to a stainless steel one with a much better handle during the Vietnam War era. However, as with almost anything U.S. military..it's a system. It's more likeable with an LC-2 canteen pouch. Having it in the pouch hinders freezing, especially if you keep it close to your body. Also you can soak the pouch in water to keep it cooler in hot weather.
Fantastic overview of the different canteens and cups available. We have several different ones also, as we have found all of ours in either thrift shops or online. We have a cup for each person in our family, but we don't have canteens for each person, so we have to carry a separate water bottle. We haven't had any issues with that as of yet. I really like the Keith titanium canteen and cup set, but man the price! I do see the value in it, especially since it has the lids and also has loops on both the lid for the canteen and the lid to the cup. :) Thanks again for such a great overview! Love it, Lilly!
Thanks for the video, always entertaining. Boiling water is effective but slow, if I can carry fire making tools I can carry a filter or for emergency use, some tablets (which will kill bacteria in the bottle anyway).My Sawyer filter won't fit any of those canteens so I need a standard plastic bottle or Sawyer type water bag. I'm happy to light a fire to make tea if I'm camping but in a real survival situation I need to be moving or calling for rescue if I can't walk out. I don't want to have to light a fire every time I refill my water bottle!Just my opinion, thanks again.
Waterbladders are easy to maintain. Buy the cleaning brush keep it in your water blader pouch, camelbak put room for them so do US GI ones. If fou dont back wach into them they will stay cleaner too
I went to medical school. The plastic water bladders are perfectly fine and can be disinfected with chlorine if necessary but quick fill with a pump water filter is probably best.
Hello Lilly. If your having problems with hydration bladders you have tried, why not check out a pressurised hydration bladder that turns inside out for very easy cleaning and as the bladder is divided into 2 parts, the pressurised part puts pressure on the water part of the bladder to squirt the water out under pressure, so no sucking involved. It also works with inline water filters and is found on the aquamira website as they own GEIGERRIG.
I was surprised you did not compare the very popular Kleen Kanteen bottles or the pathfinder canteen set as lots of people either own them or are planning to own them but it’s a good comparison between a lot of different types and priced canteen sets.
I have the Nalgene Oasis canteen and Nalgene Stainless Steel bottle, and I absolutely love them. Great products. I said I'd NEVER buy a titanium canteen... and then I bought a Keith Titanium Canteen kit (with cup). I'm totally sold on the Keith Titanium kit setup, it's now my #1 go-to system for carrying and boiling water.
One of Lilly's stated reasons for using a metal canteen is "you can heat water in it". Later, she says she does not cook with the titanium canteen because it will get the inside of the cup dirty when stored. Well, if you are not going to cook with the canteen then why carry the heavier, noisier metal canteen? One possibility she mentioned in passing at the end of the video. If you pour hot water from the cup to the canteen, a plastic/Nalgene bottle might not handle hot water as well. conclusion. Cooking with the canteen is not a consideration.
I do like the wide mouth of the titanium canteen. Though I never tried to drink from one while walking, which you can do with a standard canteen.
I like the old stand by olive drab green GI canteen as a veteran I’m used to the reliability of the one. Like the titanium but too expensive.
I don't like water bladders either.
In winter you have to deal with the hose freezing. Hard to refill in the field.
I like wide mouth bottles because they are easier to fill with snow.
Clean the inside of the plastic water bladder with vodka. It will kill the germs. :)
Hell yeah
Remember to rinse unless you're russian
@@krek420 i used 10% spirit vinegar, it taks also damp smell, as well as killing all bacteria and viruses.
I would probably choose the titanium canteen set also. But I personally like to boil water in a small pot, and poor it into my Nalgene bottle. The bottle fits inside the pot, and fits well in my pack. I also have bladders, but I agree with what you said about them. I like them for things like biking, because it's convenient. You just have to flush it after every use, and they sell cleaning kits that make them easier to clean.
I like wide mouth stainless canteen and cup. US GI type. And plastic GI canteens. And stainless canteen cook stove. I like US canteen covers lc1 and 2 to carry these. On some I sew a strap to carry it over the shoulder. As opposed to on a belt.
I have several of the od green plastic military canteens and one way I found to get away from the plastic taste and smell is to keep them full of water when you are not using them and then when you are going to take it out on a trip dump that water out and fill it with fresh water and the smell and taste is gone great video thank you
Good reviews Lilly. I have camel backs for mountain biking, the way we clean them is by using Milton ( baby steriliser tablets ) and leave to soak in the bottle
I think the clear plastic and titanium cups would be a good combo if youre not willing to dirty the titanium canteen itself and would be more light weight
The US Army canteen can be bleached in over 20 years of service I had everything inside one coffee from a mess to beer from a keg . It cleans well and is a rugged container. Have fun stay safe.
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Yes I use a combination of canteens. Us army style stainless steel. And made in Sweden by Gotland comes with cup and cover . British army type is similar but plastic. Or fill and go hard plastic but does have a built in water filter and spout. Is quite robust. Made by Britta. Had these some time and are good in service.
Bcb as issued in uk military b cb crusader 2 bottle plastic but bomb proof comes sith cooker and aluminium cup and another one kn plastic. Very good have been used for years..
Great video! I don’t think aluminum is toxic. Aluminum cookware and aluminum foil is used in food service all over the world. May not be the best choice in your comparison here, but don’t worry about it poisoning you.
If a product called OxyClean is available where you live, it can clean water bottles much more effectively than any amount of scrubbing - without any work. OxyClean is an organic peroxide powder. When you return home from a trip in the woods, fill your water bottle with water about 30 degrees C and add 10 grams of OxyClean. Leave the bottle in the kitchen sink overnight and rinse it thoroughly the next day. Oxygen bubbles do the scrubbing for you and reach places that brushes cannot.
Never throw away your MRE heaters.
Warm to hot water in winter is a blessing.
Metal canteens are best, you can boil/thaw in the campfire or any heat source.
US surplus is bestest, cheapest and thoroughly field tested.
If you disinfect water with a few drops Clorox or iodine cleaning is not much of a problem.
Uncle Sam will provide!
But I do love the titanium canteen.
Got to have it!
SL. For cleaning the bladder tube, they make a very good and lightweight flexable brush. Works very well. And again very compact and light.!!!
One thing you might try on that stainless steel canteen where you said it is hard to clean, take a neck chain, like dog tag chain, drop it in and add your detergent and hot water, plug the end with your finger, and shake it around. I say finger instead of the cap because hot water will build up pressure and when you uncap it, the foam will spray everywhere. As for the folded lip on the neck, take a pipe cleaner, fold in half, and then bend the doubled center piece back on itself about half and inch, this can be inserted in the neck and pull the folded piece up under the rim and run it around to clean. I have used both tricks for years on hard to clean containers, I have even used BBs in a bottle to clean out debris. Another good video, keep it up.
I have a military stainless steel canteen and cup, heavy but good to go always, and I have a Nalgene bottle with a titanium nesting cup. Definitely lighter. I also always carry a collapsible bottle. Here there is always water somewhere or snow to melt so I usually only carry the collapsible and 1 “set”
Thank you Lilly. My bag has the stainless steel klean kanteen and a nalgene 32 wide mouth. Also a clear nalgene allows you to do some SODIS purification. Got a stainless steel cup for boiling
Lilly, I personally, like the military canteen set, with the cup, attached. I own 4 of them, and take them with me, into the forest, for camping. I also, boil water, with the cup, then pour, into the canteens.
Great video. I started out with the GI canteen. Over the years I moved up to the titanium canteen with titanium canteen cups and one plastic see through canteen bottle. Also have the military canteen cup shaped stove and lid. Again good job on the information from a ladies point of view. Cheers
304 is excellent stainless. It won't corrode. I used press hear exchanger plates out of it. And the conductive fluid they used to cool water inside the plates is extremely corrosive. To be sure NO steel is that PROOF. However, that is not a factor right because we dont store our canteens with water in them right? We also don't leave them laying around right? Stainless is cheap and durable and light enough for a small object.
I've been carrying the original US Army steel canteen and cup in the canvas case that clips to my web belt for about 30 years. I like the looks of the titanium one though. I also have a tall round one similar to yours.. And a 1 quart Stanley steel water bottle.I don't cook in them , I have a mess kit for that. I have a couple of SOLO rocket stoves , one for a coffee pot and one for food. You would think all this cooking gear takes up a lot of room in your back pack but you can put other stuff inside them.
that canteen cup is GI from Vietnam Era, cleaning it could have used white distilled vinegar, and baking soda
Another great video Lilly. Ive got the stainless steel canteen but have plastic 2 liter canteen to go with it. I’m in the eastern US and three liters is usually more than enough to go between water sources even on hot days. Then there’s the weight of the water. An extra 3 kilos of water isn’t fun to carry but I like what it does for me.
The first canteen, including the aluminum cup, is the one the danish armed forces use. The cup is made for small spiritburners, not for a full log fire.
Nice job Lilly
you could update this with David C's new cook set, which i have.
It has some faults though
Internal lip to bottle - place for bugs to hide
fine Thread on cap- requires fine motor skills
unretained Cap- can be lost or cross threaded
good kit despite that
Great show
I’m glad you still broadcast. It would be an honor to camp with you and a learning experience.
I have one of the military issue plastic canteen's and got it from the unit I was stationed in while in the Air Force. It has the nozzle on the cap so a water hose from a chemical warfare mask can be attached to it without having to remove the mask. All of those canteens you have are nice for putting drinking water in, but would not use them to heat water in, or put hot water in. I have a cup and food container which can be used to heat water in and keep them in one of my backpacks. I agree with you about the water bladder and I would not want to drink water from it either. The metal containers for heating up water in can be purchased from Amazon and they are not too high. Wal-Mart also sell them and theirs are made in China, and light weight.
If you have a plastic canteen , after you boil the water in the cup just let it cool before putting it in the canteen. Take a little longer though.
Army plastic, and stainless steel cup.. only cause it was my issue cup during Vietnam.. like the nalgeen plastic wide mouth, which you didn't show, but it is easy to clean.. great video.. thanks..
The first water bottle is my personal favorite only reason is I went to wish it's a site that you can get good gear from and I got that water bottle on the first one and I also started scrolling down and I found this as well potpan outdoor set lightweight I put that water bottle in and it works tremendously it all combined into one and it's cheaper than the $150 one I've noticed I've been a long time screwdriver I enjoy watching your videos thank you for all the information that you have provided to me
From my experience the lower heat conductivity in a canteen the better, because you wan't to use the cup for boiling anyways. That way you can keep your water from freezing in arctic conditions. This also leads to a huge drawback of water bladders/hydration systems which are prone to freezing (especially along the drinking tube), so a canteen is a must in a cold climate. On the other hand, a water bladder is great in a hot environment because the ease of access makes you drink water more frequently and keeps you from getting dehydrated from laziness :D Cleaning those things might be difficult, but I had water sitting in those things for months at a time and it was fine. Tasted bit like plastic (possibly will give me cancer in the future) but I didn't get sick, so bacterial growth doesn't seem to be a big issue here.
Thank you Lilly. I definitely value your opinion and experience!!
If left out over night in sub zero tempratures,which of these bottles cracks or leaks due to ice expansion ? Also if you fill them with hot water and use in your sleeping bag as a heat source,know that, the self inflating camping mats fail. (due to the glue that holds the fabric to the sponge melting,this results in a blistered mattress.)
Lilly you are totally awesome, would you consider doing survival courses?
You could teach shelter building, fire starting and forestry.
Perhaps even an over nighter at some point.
What you are teaching is super important, in this day and age people are too reliant on convenience foods and need at least some basic skills.
I believe every child in school should be taught first aid and basic survival skills.
Stainless canteen cup is the way to go. I used mine for shavine, showering and having my coffee. It never let me down.
I used to use and love a lot of canteens but have switched over to Smart water bottles for weight and volume considerations. If I need to boil ( I usually use a filter) then I can with my titanium or steel cup/pot. Having said all that though, I love the Keith products and will likely pick up one of those canteen sets in the future. Thanks for the reviews!
The one I prefer the most is the WWII US Army stainless steel canteen, similar to the one you showed, but made in the early 1940's.
I'm using the one i held on to after retiring from teaching USAF pilot survival school. I also have my camel back hydration system and no plastic taste. requires a long wire small bottle brush to clean it up. sold on base at uniform store
As a BOY SCOUT and US ARMY Veteran I have always used USGI surplus metal canteens. And cleaned them out with water + Baking Soda. Also I never put any liquid in them but clean water. I also started collecting reproduction historical canteens made of tinned sheet metal, stainless steel, wood, gourds lined with beeswax, and glass bottles covered in leather or woven wicker. I do have one West German metal mess kit with a canteen type cup that fits the mess kit lid perfectly. I actually use it to store muzzle loading percussion caps and modern reloading primers for brass cartridge cases, because it is metal and air tight. As a Mess kit the bucket bottom could be used to store rations or boil water/cook soup. The friction fit canteen cup lid could be also used to boil water. The only other surplus canteen I own is an early 20th Century, Swedish metal one. It has a wider metal screw on cap. I also have 2 WW1 round Canteen-like Army hospital Aluminum Hot Water bottles used to help keep patients warm under their blankets in field hospitals.
Great video. Some other bushcrafters are using Heavy cover canteens and containers. All made of Titainium. Very expensive though. $150 U.S plus.
+Survival Lilly Outstanding review of canteen options. For sanitizing a water bladder, I fill it with water, then add about 1/2 teaspoon (2.5ml) of sodium hypochlorite bleach and seal the system up for a couple of hours, turning it upside down and loosening the cap so a little so that some water spills out onto the threads of the cap, then tighten them again. I also run so water through the outlet tube by hanging the bladder, then pinching the bite valve and letting water flow for a couple of minutes. After a couple of hours, I empty it, drain the outlet tube, and hang it up again with the cap off. It air dries in a few hours and is ready for next time. Cheers.
Will the USGI Canteen or Nalgene Oasis fit nicely in the Keith Canteen Cup?
Fantastic video Lilly, really amazing content.
I don't know if you'd reply, but I'd be most gracious. Thank you in advance.