The titanium bottle links you gave does not go to the correct bottle it just gives you a direct link to bottles in general on amazon which means I have to go through the entire list of hundreds of bottles just to find it 😅 Wots the name of both the Titanium bottles please in your review
“When I was in the Army….” We use Vinegar to soak in our plastic Army Canteens. We let it sit overnight and dump and rinse the canteen. It eliminates the plastic taste. Same for the water bladders. The vinegar also takes out the nasty mold which grows in the water tube. All the canteens I owned, I still use the Army Issue.
Placing the bottle on the ground & surrounding it with coals will boil with a lower risk of it falling over..👍🏻 I've never had my bottles fall over in the fire..👍🏻 Love your vids, thank you..😊
To relieve plastic smell and taste from bottles, I fill them with water and add some lemon or lime juice to the water. Let it sit over night and the taste will go away. If it ever comes back do it again. Leaving the lids hang loose usually keeps from coming back. I have used it on large saddle canteens for years. Learned it from an former Vietnam soldier who later back packed in the 1970s - 1990s. He was the one that suggested carrying orange chewable Vitamin C tablets to add to treated water to make the taste more palletable.
This is a really good review, thank you! I love titanium! The disadvantages to all the bottles shown: - air in the bottles will allow the water to slosh and make noise thereby reducing stealth - the ridged bottles won't conform to available pack space - pack space remains the same even when the bottle is empty As for water bladders, I'm willing to endure the plastic taste and long-term risk of some sort of chemical poisoning if it means an increased chance of surviving a bad situation in the short term. I only use water in a water bladder, and I clean it out when I can with either boiling water or chemically treated water (e.g. with chlorinated water) For cooking, I prefer a two quart titanium (aluminum for cost) pot into which I stuff my sleeping gear. This results in no noise and virtually no added pack volume.
I've been needing to replace my old water bottle. I'm a big fan of the military style canteen, probably force of habit since I'm a vet. Thanks for this video, it shook my memory and got me back on track to getting my BOB set up like it should be. As always, Stay safe Lilly.
Thank you Ms Lilly, this is great. I'd like to travel in the Philippines andthe Titanium bottle look great, what I like best is that one with the filter. Not for the filter, but for the container size. I don't send messages, but I love your adventures. THANKS SO SO MUCH. 🤗✝♥🙏🌹🕯
Stainless steel milk billy cans in 2 -2.5 litres are good too. Single wall, push fit lid, wide mouth so can carry survival kit until needed, can cook inside them, good stainless handle for hanging over a fire.
The company G.A.K. makes a pot stand/stove that’s compatible with the nesting cups that fit the Nalgene bottle. There are stoves that match the U.S. military canteen cups as well. They can be found for around $15 from military surplus sellers. If you want a stainless steel lid for the real USGI canteen cup the pathfinder lid will work. I have a lot of tips for nesting bottles, cups, and stoves that Ive learned over time. If anyone is interested I could make a video expanding the topic. This video would have saved me so much money. Great content as always Lilly 👍
Yes, nesting containers/cooking kits tips would be of interest. Also, some of the water bottles shown here were incorporating other parts of cooking elements. Perhaps, it would have been nice to see a combo of cooking kits + water bottles review.
i have the budget stainless steel military canteen and cup, with a lid, and i bought a carry pouch for it seperately. it was a great investment. i take the canteen with me everytime i go camping, since i bought a molly pouch for it i can just hook it up to my backpack or on my belt around my waste. ive used the cup to boil water and cook some simple meals and stuff, works great. i have a water bladder that i never use and i have a couple other stainless steel bottles like the tall ones that i never take along anywhere either, they just sit there, the canteen is my most used bottle.
Miss Lilly, I like these type of videos and your archery ones. I carry a military canteen and metal cup,2 of them, one plastic one is steel. O haven't found another steel one at the surplus depot yet.. I also carry a sawyer mini with the backwash cleaner and a Grayl with an extra filter and coffee filters to pre-filter the water. All these are in my BOB. Which I hope I never use..I'm bugging in for as long as possible. Stay safe
I am glad you are going over this subject! I don't plastic taste and things that hard to clean. Have never used water bladders! That titanium water bottle is nice. Stainless steel is good, and I use one daily for my water. I put ice 🧊 in it with my water and it stays cold all day and durable. I should get a cup for mine. I love the canteens, and you have mentioned them before. That cup with the canteen is nice. The plastic option seems good , however I never used before. I might have to try that titanium canteen. Makes sense boiling in the cup and then pour into the canteen. That bottle with the water filter seems to be nice and agree is convenient for emergency use. Thanks for your final recommendations at the end!! Very helpful!!
Thanks for your bottle advice. Thermos flasks can save making a fire, avoiding illegal fire places or saving time in the morning for coffee/tea. I have a big, a small metal steel bottle for water only and also a thermos flask for tea/coffee or soup.
I have mostly plastic soda bottles that I just cleaned and reused. I have filters and a pot and cup for sanitation of water. An alcohol and vinegar rinse of plastic usually gets rid of the plastic taste.
I just picked up a Sawyer water bottle with internal filter which is a Sawyer mini filter inside the bottle for $20 at Walmart. A great option for filtering water especially on the go... Whether you're traveling and you don't trust the city water or camping or for emergency use this water bottle and filter system for $20 really can't be beat. So lightweight even as a backup water filtration option can't beat $20
The Nalgene military-style plastic canteen is made of dishwashers safe plastic. You can put hot, almost but not boiling, water in it. The old school OD green military canteens will soften with hot water, and melt in boiling water. They were designed to use with chemical sterilization.
Without getting into brands, a 32 oz single-hull stainless-steal water bottle is the way to go. Plastic will melt. Aluminum will melt. Titanium will rupture at the seams. 32 oz equates exactly to three drops of iodine so there's no math. And single hull so it can be boiled. Getting into brands, my Pathfinder water bottle does all of that. I've put it in the fire and boiled water in it several times and the bottle held up. It ain't cheap but it's a first rate piece of gear.
Thank you very much for this, Lilly. The one I like best is the titanium canteen. I appreciate you reviewing these bottles for us, giving us the pros and cons of each. Makes my decision much easier. Have a great day!
Regarding the double wall container in a fire, if the entire bottle is metal I believe you can drill a small hole in the outer wall and it will then not explode in a fire.
If you want the cheapest option then a 12 oz or 16 oz stainless steel hip flask, for alcohol, is the best. It is terrible for actually camping but as part of a survival kit it is the cheapest way to get a bottle you can boil in. If you are doing a project for a scout troop then you can get these at $3 a piece. Fill it with sugar and a water proof match on a string.
I tried water bladders and had all the same issues you had with them. Plus, I originally got them to use while snowboarding, so I didn't have to take off gloves, and rummage in a backpack to find a water bottle.This just introduced the problem of the bite valve freezing up. (you can blow your water / isotonic mix (I started using isotonic mix in a futile attempt to lower freezing point) back down the tube into the bladder once you've finished drinking, but there always seems to be just enough left in the valve to freeze, so you have to keep it in your mouth to unfreeze it before you can start drinking again. It's all just too much hassle.). I still do though have a bladder, which I use with a screw cap. I like this because it's flexible, and shrinks as it's used. On metal /Sigg type water bottles, I now always buy 1L bottles,... puritabs are dosed for 1L of water, and if you forget and drop a whole puritab into your .75L bottle, it doesn't taste very good.
I have almost all of these. I have a collection of 11 nalgenes bottles and I think about 3 of other brands. I have been a prepper for 11 years. My choice and final configuration for my BOB: two nalgene oasis canteens and the steel nalgene bottle. I can carry three liters of water if needed. I live in a very hot country, in the hottest region of the country (Brazil). In addition to this I carry, intend to carry (there are legal issues involved here and I need to be careful with words) on the BOB another three nalgene bottles. Two to carry medicine and first aid kit, and the third to carry ammunition. I have the military steel canteen and don't like it, the striping on the lid is bad. I also have the Vargo BOT, but its seal is not very good. Besides both are made in steel, so heavy.
Nice survey and discussion! An in-between option is also worth considering, if you're not on a limited budget -- namely, a wide-mouth titanium bottle. Keith makes a 0.9L and 1.2L version that come with an insulated cloth carry case with lightweight webbing sling. I like them because of the large capacity and the extra flexibility for use with foods or beverages. Though less stable than a canteen, they are much fatter than a typical drink bottle.
Experience speaks volumes.Great side X side canteen comparisons.I agree about the bladder, worry about it being sterile clean and dry in-between uses.Folks said put an AlkaSeltzer tablet in there to clean but drying it out... even hanging in the sun.... Great choices for all life needs,.What no boda?Thanks
I like the fiji water bottle with a sawyer filter. A cotton cloth is a very good pre-screening device. Low tech is sometimes better than modern(expensive)!
I have a number of water conveyances as well. My go to for years for travel has been a no name titanium 750ml bottle. It’s good kit. Also have the Ti Canteen and cup set. Good kit as well.
I love the military style canteens as it comes with a cooking vessel also. I've only had the old ones but they had a lid. New one you showed was way better but way more expensive.
Hey Lily thank you for the video I enjoyed it and to let you know the butterfly handles are no good they do break I have an older can that I bought from Walmart and I use it everyday because I am homeless and when this handle broke I was able to use nut and bolt to replace the pop rivets that broke
Excellent review. What I watched paralleled my personal experience. I am thinking to part with some items to gain more shelf space. Why not, I do not use several items anymore and perhaps someone else will have use for them.
In terms of keeping water bladders clean; cleaning tablets are available from many outdoor stores or online retailers which quickly clean any bacteria. Another easy way to keep your water bladder clean is to store it in a freezer when not in use (and empty). This prevents bacteria from growing, meaning that it stays clean.
The goetland military style stainless canteen has a screw on the plastic lid u can take it off but still have the chain off to put in the fire without worry about the lid melting
my go to system is a nalgene canteen inside a canteen cup with the stove on it. I am considering upgrading to the stainless pathfinder system. I dont know what to think about the titanium stuff coming out of china, I have the same bottle you have here, the round one, from the factory the threads in the lid grind so much that they leave titanium dust in the water as your pour it out, I have polished and ground mine to the point that it stopped doing it but it took several hours of using a dremel with polishing compound. I got the bottle to test quality before getting a full titanium canteen cookset. I think a stainless usgi canteen and cup are the absolute winner for survival. Nalgene and alu cup for hiking / camping.
Lilly, you can boil water using double wall steel bottles but you need to drill a small hole or two so when heated the heated air can escape and not cause the bottle to explode.
👍 I agree w/ you 💯% on water bladders for all the reasons you mentioned. The makeshift plastic bottle idea was very interesting. Currently, I am using a combination of 1000ml plastic Nalgene bottle (due to weight of stainless version, as you mentioned) and a stainless steel canteen cup set from self reliance outfitters here in the U.S.. Thank you for sharing, this was an interesting and useful video.
The stainless steel water bottle is great i use one everyday. The only downside i have is with such a wide mouth opening its hard to drink without spilling when riding on a bumpy road in a car
The canteen and cup combo is the best, Also James from waypointsurvival has some good ideas for mods/additions for this kit using old cans, rivets and tin-snips. Good vid Lilly, I’d rather see these gear discussion vids than the-sky-is-falling daily as is the form with most preparedness channels on YT nowadays.
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From experience, the best one is the one you have with you when you need it… For long time, I used a 1,5l PET bottle with black tape around it. Almost free 😊
That was a very good discussion of the pros and cons of each of those bottles and canteens. I like the weight-saving advantage of the titanium bottles and canteen. Obviously, the water source needs to be close-by, since none of the bottles or canteens holds even a single day's (normal) ration of water. I would prefer boiling "wild" water to sanitize it, as opposed to using iodine or sodium hypochlorite tablets, since boiling does not significantly alter the taste of the water. I've used iodine tablets in the wilderness before - the taste they add is not the best, but when you're really thirsty, it's easy to ignore the iodine taste and they work fast. Adding 4-8 drops of 5% unscented sodium hypochlorite (laundry bleach) per gallon of water to be disinfected does not impart much of a chemical taste to the water, especially if it is allowed to sit uncovered for a while after treatment. Unbleached paper coffee filters can be used as a pre-filter to remove silt and fine debris prior to boiling or treatment with chemicals. You have shown your water catchment system in prior videos. How would you disinfect water from your collection barrels for drinking? Cheers.
I use steel bottle bought before 8 years, I have never dropped it on the ground, it is like new, I wash it with warm water and liquid soap and sponge smells nice and is 100% clean
Bottle / straw brushes would be helpful for cleaning the water bottles and bladder fittings. Oxo makes a largish brush (it looks a little like a toilet brush) that would be great for wide mouth bottles.
I've got a few of the round metal military...bigger than a quart. Got even more plastic military. Which also work very well. It's just what you used for 20 plus years that you look for. Oh and 20 gal mylar bags lined up in the basement. Just in case.
Q Good to know! Having gone literally through shtf.... I will tell you that NONE of Lily's recommendations actually worked!!! So what do I mean??? I have gone through severe rainstorm in 22 degrees F...and extreme heat of 120 degrees F. 😂 literally driving 🚗 from Texas to California in a matter of days. Those water bottles will experience cold water to very very hot 🔥 in the heat. And trying to cook 🍳 anything and keeping a fire 🔥 going in extreme rain 🌧 and cold 🥶 in raw elements and heavy winds was nearly impossible. You need ratings on the bottles to keep hot or cold for a good number of hours and preferably days in a real shtf that I lived through. Experience being prepped still found huge gaps. Do your diligence. Prepare accordingly. Q❤
The stainless steel canteen is a great option but one problem is with the narrow mouth if you want to boil water in the canteen cup and then transport it into the canteen it's a very narrow opening you would need a funnel..(which I do have a tiny stainless steel funnel) .. I would much prefer a wider mouth canteen for getting the water inside and for cleaning purposes.
Thanks for the great review. Just one question; Why didn't you weigh the Titanium canteen with its cap ON (as you did all of the other canteens) @ 12:20 ? Thanks for the heads-up on the downsides of water bladders. I definitely won't be wasting money on those now. Best wishes!
Those 20 dollar amazon aluminum canteens have super brittle plastic caps. They tend to shatter when you need them most. I out the cap on tight and it shattered. I reconstructed the cap with JB Weld and now the cap is virtually indestructible.
The hose is what usually tastes plasticy. Green plastic canteens are horrible for plastic taste. Wash them enough and most of it goes away. The two stainless and titanium bottles would be my choice also. Great video! 👍
I have to admit, as I guy these days not knowing what to expect from people, I was pleasantly surprised by the practical information in this video. I'm not a country boy, but I'm a lot more rusticated and grizzled than typical product hypesters I see these day. Anyway, thanks!
Great to hear the details of your experience with these. I will now avoid the bladder as I was considering it recently to replace my Pathfinder SS bottle for pack-ability. I can vouch for the North Saskatchewan river being murky having canoed on it many times. mucky shoreline.
you can reverse flush a sayer. it is supposed to clean them so they work again. you use clean water of course. i have a marine corps canteen, its a rubber type with a case that's insulated and hooks on a duty belt, it can also hook up to a gas mask. need to find them have or had 2.
Excellent presentation and review. Interestingly enough I'm presently looking for a suitable water bottle & weight is not a problem. The titanium canteen looks great, light but a tad more pricey. Never thought of not boiling water in the canteen because it would dirty the cup. Great advice for any of the bottles as well. I'm leaning towards the heavier bottle but you did mention problems with stability while in the fire. I'll keep that in mind. Thank you for your time and effort.
Thru hikers use a Smart water bottle with a Sawyer filter screwed on top. Of course you can not boil water with this system and in cold weather the Sawyer filter can freeze, destroying the filter. My system is a Kleen Kanteen (1182 ml) which nests nicely in a GSI cup. The cup and bottle fit nicely in the large bottle carrier sold by Maxpedition. This can be mounted outside the backpack with MOLLE straps. Because I camp in the deserts of New Mexico I have two of these (one on each side of the backpack). I found a use for my water bladders. I use them with a Sawyer filter for a gravity system. Good video.
The guyot with the cup offers you more options in my opinion. You can cook in the guyot. It is heavier, but it is also more durable in the long run. JMO
To clean a bottle some warm water a strip of household paper tissue and a few drops of detergent, close , shake it all around . Method good for thermos & food containers too. Or have small sponges each with a drop of detergent on with you. Buy big sponge cut into smaller. Put in zipbag...
Thank you for the information. Very helpful. Including things like adding hot water to bottle and putting the bottle inside sleeping bag (had never heard of that), Heating water in the bottle (never thought of that), Measuring the weight of each. Can we please see a review of mess/cooking kits and utensils when you get a chance?
U need to pre-clean ur water bladder by filling it up with warm water and let it sit a whole night. It won't taste yuck anymore. And don't expose ur waterbladder to heat (sun), it'll be just fine.
Hi Lilly . Always good to see and listen to your presentations. I am thinking it's probably time to have a ( what we call a garage sale here in the US ) for your water bottles and bladders : ) .
I had a canteen once made of stainless steel with a rim around the center. I heated it and the seam split destroying it. A tip I'll give to you and all watching. Use 50 micron aquarium filter polishing pads for pre-straining water. I have a Survivor filter and cut them to fit over the intake on the filter, and they are held on by a simple hose clamp. I carry the steel Nalgene in a Wild Wolf canteen/bottle carrier with a flip top Nalgene lid on it and the other lid stored in the bottom of the carrier. There is also enough room for a cup like you show. The carrier's insulation will keep your water cool for a few hours even if locked in a hot vehicle. Thanks for the great content and advise. I've been watching you for years now and you always teach me something I didn't know.
I wanted a British Crusader cup system by BCB but they are incredibly expensive new. In the end I found the Dutch version, which has slightly different dimensions, but only cost £10 for the water bottle and nested metal cup combo. I swear by it if you want a compact, light system, where you dont have to mess around with different kettles, cups, plates and pans. Just a water bottle, a metal cup, and I cook everything in the cup, and eat it with a long plastic spork. I literally pack foods based on whether I can cook them in that cup. If you take sachets of coffee with you, and you aint fussy, you dont even have to wash it up. Cook your food, rinse with a little water, make a cup of coffee, then rinse again. As long as you dont mind coffee thats slightly of spicy noodle or porridge, its the perfect low maintenance system Just dont be freaked out if the rubber washer is a weird colour. Some soldiers mix their isotonic drink sachets in the water bottle (sacrilege imhfo), so that can turn them yellow or orange.
In Sweden we use a Kåsa* to drink out of in the field, dirt cheap everywhete since it is the go to solution. *A rounded oblong cup, that easily slips into the backpack or you just hang it on a string, of Saami origin. Used in the army too in colour green.
@@EattinThurs61 Ah yes! I have seen those. They are like modern versions of the Finnish kuksa. I have an old Swedish military trangia set and I think that cup is missing from it. I should try and get one online. Thank you for that mate.
@@EattinThurs61 Haha yeah. Hand carving a kuksa has been on my projects list for a while now. One of these days I will break out my spoon knife and get to work mate!
I have similar expierences and the same "evolution" with bottles. I always looked at my friend who was telling me how awesome bladders are and every time he was sweating while cleaning it I was telling him his an idiot. This is what friends do. At the moment I carry two nalgene seethrough canteens + one nalgene wide neck bottle with cup. For boiling water I use GI cup or separate rectangle Esbit cookset good as a pan. In winter time I use 2x US steel canteens with cup, for this WWII repro you have, you can find original army canteen chain with small carabiner to detach it and cork seal instead of plastic. But i think, for winter time I will switch to 2x Pathfinder canteen with wide neck now. Looks like this US WWII but with wide neck. Hezliche grusse! For short "patrols" I carry small round Swiss Army Kocher, when its empty I put fuel cubes there works good.
Yes the Sawyer filters can clog but number one you should pre filter the water if it's murky with a bandana or Molina coffee filter.. they also come with a hypodermic flush plunger so you can clean the filter back flush the filter...
The militairy-style ones hold more water and dont tipover as easely. Deu to the shape they ware nice on your belt/bagpack. Never chainche a winning team 😂 Nice video lilly!
I recently got a 40oz/1.2l Klean Kanteen at a local store I also have several 1qt/1l Nalgene also have a bottle carrier that has pockets I still use a water bladder tie a bit of cloth to a string and suck the string thru the hose and CLEAN! I only use Distilled Water in my water bag for day trips other trips I use the Klean Kanteen or Nalgene wide mouth bottles I can NOT afford Titanium
Tach Lilly,ein sehr informatives Video von dir. Ich nutze die Edelstahlflasche in Militärausführung, die Nalgene in der M.- Variante, die grüne nutze ich jedoch nur auf kurzer Strecke im Rucksack. ... Gruß Swen
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Thank you for sharing your knowledge on all this.
Hey! what is this I hear about you are going to be on 7 vs Wild?
The titanium bottle links you gave does not go to the correct bottle it just gives you a direct link to bottles in general on amazon which means I have to go through the entire list of hundreds of bottles just to find it 😅
Wots the name of both the Titanium bottles please in your review
Hey! what is this I hear about you are going to be on 7 vs Wild?
wow, titanium is pricey 😮
“When I was in the Army….” We use Vinegar to soak in our plastic Army Canteens. We let it sit overnight and dump and rinse the canteen. It eliminates the plastic taste. Same for the water bladders. The vinegar also takes out the nasty mold which grows in the water tube. All the canteens I owned, I still use the Army Issue.
more thanks for the info.
does the vinegar really take out the plastic taste? Or does it still take like plastic?
Its an old remedy fro. Ww2 my mother used this one. I guess it works. Another is bicarbonate of soada.
@@MastahDriverno it tastes like vinegar
Placing the bottle on the ground & surrounding it with coals will boil with a lower risk of it falling over..👍🏻
I've never had my bottles fall over in the fire..👍🏻
Love your vids, thank you..😊
To relieve plastic smell and taste from bottles, I fill them with water and add some lemon or lime juice to the water. Let it sit over night and the taste will go away. If it ever comes back do it again. Leaving the lids hang loose usually keeps from coming back. I have used it on large saddle canteens for years. Learned it from an former Vietnam soldier who later back packed in the 1970s - 1990s. He was the one that suggested carrying orange chewable Vitamin C tablets to add to treated water to make the taste more palletable.
This is a really good review, thank you! I love titanium!
The disadvantages to all the bottles shown:
- air in the bottles will allow the water to slosh and make noise thereby reducing stealth
- the ridged bottles won't conform to available pack space
- pack space remains the same even when the bottle is empty
As for water bladders, I'm willing to endure the plastic taste and long-term risk of some sort of chemical poisoning if it means an increased chance of surviving a bad situation in the short term. I only use water in a water bladder, and I clean it out when I can with either boiling water or chemically treated water (e.g. with chlorinated water)
For cooking, I prefer a two quart titanium (aluminum for cost) pot into which I stuff my sleeping gear. This results in no noise and virtually no added pack volume.
I've been needing to replace my old water bottle. I'm a big fan of the military style canteen, probably force of habit since I'm a vet. Thanks for this video, it shook my memory and got me back on track to getting my BOB set up like it should be. As always, Stay safe Lilly.
Thank you Ms Lilly, this is great. I'd like to travel in the Philippines andthe Titanium bottle look great, what I like best is that one with the filter. Not for the filter, but for the container size. I don't send messages, but I love your adventures. THANKS SO SO MUCH. 🤗✝♥🙏🌹🕯
Stainless steel milk billy cans in 2 -2.5 litres are good too. Single wall, push fit lid, wide mouth so can carry survival kit until needed, can cook inside them, good stainless handle for hanging over a fire.
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The company G.A.K. makes a pot stand/stove that’s compatible with the nesting cups that fit the Nalgene bottle. There are stoves that match the U.S. military canteen cups as well. They can be found for around $15 from military surplus sellers. If you want a stainless steel lid for the real USGI canteen cup the pathfinder lid will work. I have a lot of tips for nesting bottles, cups, and stoves that Ive learned over time. If anyone is interested I could make a video expanding the topic. This video would have saved me so much money. Great content as always Lilly 👍
Yes, nesting containers/cooking kits tips would be of interest.
Also, some of the water bottles shown here were incorporating other parts of cooking elements.
Perhaps, it would have been nice to see a combo of cooking kits + water bottles review.
Make the video!
Please make the video
i have the budget stainless steel military canteen and cup, with a lid, and i bought a carry pouch for it seperately. it was a great investment. i take the canteen with me everytime i go camping, since i bought a molly pouch for it i can just hook it up to my backpack or on my belt around my waste. ive used the cup to boil water and cook some simple meals and stuff, works great.
i have a water bladder that i never use and i have a couple other stainless steel bottles like the tall ones that i never take along anywhere either, they just sit there, the canteen is my most used bottle.
Miss Lilly, I like these type of videos and your archery ones. I carry a military canteen and metal cup,2 of them, one plastic one is steel. O haven't found another steel one at the surplus depot yet.. I also carry a sawyer mini with the backwash cleaner and a Grayl with an extra filter and coffee filters to pre-filter the water. All these are in my BOB. Which I hope I never use..I'm bugging in for as long as possible. Stay safe
I am glad you are going over this subject! I don't plastic taste and things that hard to clean. Have never used water bladders! That titanium water bottle is nice. Stainless steel is good, and I use one daily for my water. I put ice 🧊 in it with my water and it stays cold all day and durable. I should get a cup for mine. I love the canteens, and you have mentioned them before. That cup with the canteen is nice. The plastic option seems good , however I never used before. I might have to try that titanium canteen. Makes sense boiling in the cup and then pour into the canteen. That bottle with the water filter seems to be nice and agree is convenient for emergency use. Thanks for your final recommendations at the end!! Very helpful!!
Handy hint if you wish to clean inside your canteen place small stones some sand and a little detergent and some water and shake figerously ,
Thanks for your bottle advice. Thermos flasks can save making a fire, avoiding illegal fire places or saving time in the morning for coffee/tea. I have a big, a small metal steel bottle for water only and also a thermos flask for tea/coffee or soup.
I have mostly plastic soda bottles that I just cleaned and reused. I have filters and a pot and cup for sanitation of water.
An alcohol and vinegar rinse of plastic usually gets rid of the plastic taste.
I just picked up a Sawyer water bottle with internal filter which is a Sawyer mini filter inside the bottle for $20 at Walmart. A great option for filtering water especially on the go... Whether you're traveling and you don't trust the city water or camping or for emergency use this water bottle and filter system for $20 really can't be beat. So lightweight even as a backup water filtration option can't beat $20
The Nalgene military-style plastic canteen is made of dishwashers safe plastic. You can put hot, almost but not boiling, water in it. The old school OD green military canteens will soften with hot water, and melt in boiling water. They were designed to use with chemical sterilization.
Without getting into brands, a 32 oz single-hull stainless-steal water bottle is the way to go. Plastic will melt. Aluminum will melt. Titanium will rupture at the seams. 32 oz equates exactly to three drops of iodine so there's no math. And single hull so it can be boiled.
Getting into brands, my Pathfinder water bottle does all of that. I've put it in the fire and boiled water in it several times and the bottle held up. It ain't cheap but it's a first rate piece of gear.
Thank you very much for this, Lilly. The one I like best is the titanium canteen. I appreciate you reviewing these bottles for us, giving us the pros and cons of each. Makes my decision much easier. Have a great day!
Regarding the double wall container in a fire, if the entire bottle is metal I believe you can drill a small hole in the outer wall and it will then not explode in a fire.
If you want the cheapest option then a 12 oz or 16 oz stainless steel hip flask, for alcohol, is the best. It is terrible for actually camping but as part of a survival kit it is the cheapest way to get a bottle you can boil in.
If you are doing a project for a scout troop then you can get these at $3 a piece. Fill it with sugar and a water proof match on a string.
Hi Survival Lilly!! Thank you for your videos! I learn a lot. I need a good bottle, but something easy to clean.
I tried water bladders and had all the same issues you had with them. Plus, I originally got them to use while snowboarding, so I didn't have to take off gloves, and rummage in a backpack to find a water bottle.This just introduced the problem of the bite valve freezing up. (you can blow your water / isotonic mix (I started using isotonic mix in a futile attempt to lower freezing point) back down the tube into the bladder once you've finished drinking, but there always seems to be just enough left in the valve to freeze, so you have to keep it in your mouth to unfreeze it before you can start drinking again. It's all just too much hassle.). I still do though have a bladder, which I use with a screw cap. I like this because it's flexible, and shrinks as it's used.
On metal /Sigg type water bottles, I now always buy 1L bottles,... puritabs are dosed for 1L of water, and if you forget and drop a whole puritab into your .75L bottle, it doesn't taste very good.
I have almost all of these. I have a collection of 11 nalgenes bottles and I think about 3 of other brands. I have been a prepper for 11 years.
My choice and final configuration for my BOB: two nalgene oasis canteens and the steel nalgene bottle. I can carry three liters of water if needed. I live in a very hot country, in the hottest region of the country (Brazil).
In addition to this I carry, intend to carry (there are legal issues involved here and I need to be careful with words) on the BOB another three nalgene bottles. Two to carry medicine and first aid kit, and the third to carry ammunition.
I have the military steel canteen and don't like it, the striping on the lid is bad. I also have the Vargo BOT, but its seal is not very good. Besides both are made in steel, so heavy.
Nice survey and discussion! An in-between option is also worth considering, if you're not on a limited budget -- namely, a wide-mouth titanium bottle. Keith makes a 0.9L and 1.2L version that come with an insulated cloth carry case with lightweight webbing sling. I like them because of the large capacity and the extra flexibility for use with foods or beverages. Though less stable than a canteen, they are much fatter than a typical drink bottle.
Experience speaks volumes.Great side X side canteen comparisons.I agree about the bladder, worry about it being sterile clean and dry in-between uses.Folks said put an AlkaSeltzer tablet in there to clean but drying it out... even hanging in the sun....
Great choices for all life needs,.What no boda?Thanks
Any metal single wall container that can hold water is the best. Other then that I am not picky when thirsty.
I like the fiji water bottle with a sawyer filter. A cotton cloth is a very good pre-screening device. Low tech is sometimes better than modern(expensive)!
Nice job on video and good job on showing the good and bad in each item . Thanks for info. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🪓🔪👍👍.🙏🙏
I have a number of water conveyances as well. My go to for years for travel has been a no name titanium 750ml bottle. It’s good kit.
Also have the Ti Canteen and cup set. Good kit as well.
I love the military style canteens as it comes with a cooking vessel also. I've only had the old ones but they had a lid. New one you showed was way better but way more expensive.
The plastic caps easily shatter. beware
@@D.S.Private Yeah and melt.
Hey Lily thank you for the video I enjoyed it and to let you know the butterfly handles are no good they do break I have an older can that I bought from Walmart and I use it everyday because I am homeless and when this handle broke I was able to use nut and bolt to replace the pop rivets that broke
Excellent review. What I watched paralleled my personal experience. I am thinking to part with some items to gain more shelf space. Why not, I do not use several items anymore and perhaps someone else will have use for them.
In terms of keeping water bladders clean; cleaning tablets are available from many outdoor stores or online retailers which quickly clean any bacteria. Another easy way to keep your water bladder clean is to store it in a freezer when not in use (and empty). This prevents bacteria from growing, meaning that it stays clean.
The goetland military style stainless canteen has a screw on the plastic lid u can take it off but still have the chain off to put in the fire without worry about the lid melting
I appreciate your gear reviews and opinions. Thank you.
my go to system is a nalgene canteen inside a canteen cup with the stove on it. I am considering upgrading to the stainless pathfinder system. I dont know what to think about the titanium stuff coming out of china, I have the same bottle you have here, the round one, from the factory the threads in the lid grind so much that they leave titanium dust in the water as your pour it out, I have polished and ground mine to the point that it stopped doing it but it took several hours of using a dremel with polishing compound. I got the bottle to test quality before getting a full titanium canteen cookset.
I think a stainless usgi canteen and cup are the absolute winner for survival. Nalgene and alu cup for hiking / camping.
Lilly, you can boil water using double wall steel bottles but you need to drill a small hole or two so when heated the heated air can escape and not cause the bottle to explode.
Note: careful not to puncture the inner wall
👍 I agree w/ you 💯% on water bladders for all the reasons you mentioned. The makeshift plastic bottle idea was very interesting. Currently, I am using a combination of 1000ml plastic Nalgene bottle (due to weight of stainless version, as you mentioned) and a stainless steel canteen cup set from self reliance outfitters here in the U.S.. Thank you for sharing, this was an interesting and useful video.
very cool!
hallo lilly, mein glückwunsch zu euer nominierung zu 7 vs wild!
I love my sawyer water bottle. Sawyer filters can also be used on soda bottles,they just screw on.
I love the titanium set. It's more costly but lasts a long time and is easier to carry. Definitely want that one
lt's a pity that dishes from titanium are veri expensive.
This is very useful, Lilly; I’ve been looking into buying a high-end titanium bottle set 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
The stainless steel water bottle is great i use one everyday. The only downside i have is with such a wide mouth opening its hard to drink without spilling when riding on a bumpy road in a car
The canteen and cup combo is the best, Also James from waypointsurvival has some good ideas for mods/additions for this kit using old cans, rivets and tin-snips.
Good vid Lilly, I’d rather see these gear discussion vids than the-sky-is-falling daily as is the form with most preparedness channels on YT nowadays.
From experience, the best one is the one you have with you when you need it… For long time, I used a 1,5l PET bottle with black tape around it. Almost free 😊
numquam........
That was a very good discussion of the pros and cons of each of those bottles and canteens. I like the weight-saving advantage of the titanium bottles and canteen. Obviously, the water source needs to be close-by, since none of the bottles or canteens holds even a single day's (normal) ration of water. I would prefer boiling "wild" water to sanitize it, as opposed to using iodine or sodium hypochlorite tablets, since boiling does not significantly alter the taste of the water. I've used iodine tablets in the wilderness before - the taste they add is not the best, but when you're really thirsty, it's easy to ignore the iodine taste and they work fast. Adding 4-8 drops of 5% unscented sodium hypochlorite (laundry bleach) per gallon of water to be disinfected does not impart much of a chemical taste to the water, especially if it is allowed to sit uncovered for a while after treatment. Unbleached paper coffee filters can be used as a pre-filter to remove silt and fine debris prior to boiling or treatment with chemicals. You have shown your water catchment system in prior videos. How would you disinfect water from your collection barrels for drinking? Cheers.
I use steel bottle bought before 8 years, I have never dropped it on the ground, it is like new, I wash it with warm water and liquid soap and sponge smells nice and is 100% clean
Bottle / straw brushes would be helpful for cleaning the water bottles and bladder fittings. Oxo makes a largish brush (it looks a little like a toilet brush) that would be great for wide mouth bottles.
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In an shtf situation...you're not going to worry about the brush.
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Great video Lilly. Yes, more vids like this. Thank you very much. ❤
Lilly, only you could make a 20 minute video on water bottles interesting !!
I've got a few of the round metal military...bigger than a quart. Got even more plastic military. Which also work very well. It's just what you used for 20 plus years that you look for. Oh and 20 gal mylar bags lined up in the basement. Just in case.
Lilly, I sure do hope that you start your own or affiliate closely with a survival store. Getting the right gear is so important. Thanks.
Btw, in the U.S. Walmart sells an equivalent to the GSI cup for about 1/3 the price.
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Good to know!
Having gone literally through shtf....
I will tell you that NONE of Lily's recommendations actually worked!!!
So what do I mean???
I have gone through severe rainstorm in 22 degrees F...and extreme heat of 120 degrees F. 😂 literally driving 🚗 from Texas to California in a matter of days.
Those water bottles will experience cold water to very very hot 🔥 in the heat. And trying to cook 🍳 anything and keeping a fire 🔥 going in extreme rain 🌧 and cold 🥶 in raw elements and heavy winds was nearly impossible.
You need ratings on the bottles to keep hot or cold for a good number of hours and preferably days in a real shtf that I lived through. Experience being prepped still found huge gaps.
Do your diligence. Prepare accordingly.
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What you need is a 12 volt dip heater for car use in rain but if it rains water...
The stainless steel canteen is a great option but one problem is with the narrow mouth if you want to boil water in the canteen cup and then transport it into the canteen it's a very narrow opening you would need a funnel..(which I do have a tiny stainless steel funnel) .. I would much prefer a wider mouth canteen for getting the water inside and for cleaning purposes.
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Prices have skyrocketed 😢
Just bought 2 today
$36 + $14 plus tax = $54
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Thanks for the great review. Just one question; Why didn't you weigh the Titanium canteen with its cap ON (as you did all of the other canteens) @ 12:20 ? Thanks for the heads-up on the downsides of water bladders. I definitely won't be wasting money on those now. Best wishes!
Those 20 dollar amazon aluminum canteens have super brittle plastic caps. They tend to shatter when you need them most. I out the cap on tight and it shattered. I reconstructed the cap with JB Weld and now the cap is virtually indestructible.
I've heard that if you drill through the outer wall, it won't explode when put in a fire
The hose is what usually tastes plasticy.
Green plastic canteens are horrible for plastic taste. Wash them enough and most of it goes away.
The two stainless and titanium bottles would be my choice also.
Great video! 👍
I have to admit, as I guy these days not knowing what to expect from people, I was pleasantly surprised by the practical information in this video. I'm not a country boy, but I'm a lot more rusticated and grizzled than typical product hypesters I see these day. Anyway, thanks!
Great to hear the details of your experience with these. I will now avoid the bladder as I was considering it recently to replace my Pathfinder SS bottle for pack-ability. I can vouch for the North Saskatchewan river being murky having canoed on it many times. mucky shoreline.
Good review of various water containers.
you can reverse flush a sayer. it is supposed to clean them so they work again. you use clean water of course. i have a marine corps canteen, its a rubber type with a case that's insulated and hooks on a duty belt, it can also hook up to a gas mask. need to find them have or had 2.
A full one
Great information.
Love that titanium canteen and water bottle, very cool and lightweight.
Got one love it
I clean with everclear alcohol after soda and vinegar and filter water rinse. Then rinse again.
🌺 Great Information
Thank You 👍
Great info on the bottles! Thanks again Lilly 👍
Excellent presentation and review. Interestingly enough I'm presently looking for a suitable water bottle & weight is not a problem. The titanium canteen looks great, light but a tad more pricey. Never thought of not boiling water in the canteen because it would dirty the cup. Great advice for any of the bottles as well. I'm leaning towards the heavier bottle but you did mention problems with stability while in the fire. I'll keep that in mind. Thank you for your time and effort.
Thru hikers use a Smart water bottle with a Sawyer filter screwed on top. Of course you can not boil water with this system and in cold weather the Sawyer filter can freeze, destroying the filter. My system is a Kleen Kanteen (1182 ml) which nests nicely in a GSI cup. The cup and bottle fit nicely in the large bottle carrier sold by Maxpedition. This can be mounted outside the backpack with MOLLE straps. Because I camp in the deserts of New Mexico I have two of these (one on each side of the backpack). I found a use for my water bladders. I use them with a Sawyer filter for a gravity system. Good video.
Titanium canteen with stainless steel cup, the cup can be use as a shovel if needed.
The guyot with the cup offers you more options in my opinion. You can cook in the guyot. It is heavier, but it is also more durable in the long run. JMO
Very nice analysis of personal water containers! You did very well on Naked and Afraid!
Be well and be happy Lilly ☺️
NALGEN bottles are I think are the best for transportation.
You can sweeten a water bladder by using vanilla extract. Store it overnight with a teaspoon of extract added to 2 litres.
more thanks for the info 👍
To clean a bottle some warm water a strip of household paper tissue and a few drops of detergent, close , shake it all around . Method good for thermos & food containers too. Or have small sponges each with a drop of detergent on with you. Buy big sponge cut into smaller. Put in zipbag...
Thank you for the information. Very helpful. Including things like adding hot water to bottle and putting the bottle inside sleeping bag (had never heard of that), Heating water in the bottle (never thought of that), Measuring the weight of each.
Can we please see a review of mess/cooking kits and utensils when you get a chance?
very nice bottle
U need to pre-clean ur water bladder by filling it up with warm water and let it sit a whole night. It won't taste yuck anymore. And don't expose ur waterbladder to heat (sun), it'll be just fine.
Hi Lilly . Always good to see and listen to your presentations. I am thinking it's probably time to have a ( what we call a garage sale here in the US ) for your water bottles and bladders : ) .
I love the show down and your reasoning, thank you for the info
I had a canteen once made of stainless steel with a rim around the center. I heated it and the seam split destroying it.
A tip I'll give to you and all watching. Use 50 micron aquarium filter polishing pads for pre-straining water. I have a Survivor filter and cut them to fit over the intake on the filter, and they are held on by a simple hose clamp.
I carry the steel Nalgene in a Wild Wolf canteen/bottle carrier with a flip top Nalgene lid on it and the other lid stored in the bottom of the carrier. There is also enough room for a cup like you show. The carrier's insulation will keep your water cool for a few hours even if locked in a hot vehicle.
Thanks for the great content and advise. I've been watching you for years now and you always teach me something I didn't know.
Thank you so much! Really useful video. ❤
Wide mouth, single wall steel bottle.
The bladder is for extreme heat or extended use.
Excellent information!! Thank you!!
Thanks, I needed that information.
We discovered that Efferdent tablets, the denture cleaner, is cheap and cleans out bladders, hoses and small mouth bottles really well.
I wanted a British Crusader cup system by BCB but they are incredibly expensive new.
In the end I found the Dutch version, which has slightly different dimensions, but only cost £10 for the water bottle and nested metal cup combo.
I swear by it if you want a compact, light system, where you dont have to mess around with different kettles, cups, plates and pans. Just a water bottle, a metal cup, and I cook everything in the cup, and eat it with a long plastic spork. I literally pack foods based on whether I can cook them in that cup.
If you take sachets of coffee with you, and you aint fussy, you dont even have to wash it up. Cook your food, rinse with a little water, make a cup of coffee, then rinse again. As long as you dont mind coffee thats slightly of spicy noodle or porridge, its the perfect low maintenance system
Just dont be freaked out if the rubber washer is a weird colour. Some soldiers mix their isotonic drink sachets in the water bottle (sacrilege imhfo), so that can turn them yellow or orange.
oh, and I take a spare metal water bottle, mainly so I can use it as an improvised hot water bottle on cold nights lol
In Sweden we use a Kåsa* to drink out of in the field, dirt cheap everywhete since it is the go to solution.
*A rounded oblong cup, that easily slips into the backpack or you just hang it on a string, of Saami origin.
Used in the army too in colour green.
@@EattinThurs61 Ah yes! I have seen those. They are like modern versions of the Finnish kuksa. I have an old Swedish military trangia set and I think that cup is missing from it. I should try and get one online. Thank you for that mate.
@@TheWtfnonamez kåsa, kuksa yepp Swedish and Finnish versions of a Saami word.
Of course the nicest would be one that you made yourself from a burl...
@@EattinThurs61 Haha yeah. Hand carving a kuksa has been on my projects list for a while now. One of these days I will break out my spoon knife and get to work mate!
I have similar expierences and the same "evolution" with bottles. I always looked at my friend who was telling me how awesome bladders are and every time he was sweating while cleaning it I was telling him his an idiot. This is what friends do. At the moment I carry two nalgene seethrough canteens + one nalgene wide neck bottle with cup. For boiling water I use GI cup or separate rectangle Esbit cookset good as a pan. In winter time I use 2x US steel canteens with cup, for this WWII repro you have, you can find original army canteen chain with small carabiner to detach it and cork seal instead of plastic. But i think, for winter time I will switch to 2x Pathfinder canteen with wide neck now. Looks like this US WWII but with wide neck. Hezliche grusse! For short "patrols" I carry small round Swiss Army Kocher, when its empty I put fuel cubes there works good.
yeah I was thinking the same thing ..good deal Lilly
Thank you for this review, I learned a lot!
Yes the Sawyer filters can clog but number one you should pre filter the water if it's murky with a bandana or Molina coffee filter.. they also come with a hypodermic flush plunger so you can clean the filter back flush the filter...
Thanks Lilly. Great video!
Excellent video, thank you
The militairy-style ones hold more water and dont tipover as easely. Deu to the shape they ware nice on your belt/bagpack. Never chainche a winning team 😂
Nice video lilly!
I recently got a 40oz/1.2l Klean Kanteen at a local store
I also have several 1qt/1l Nalgene
also have a bottle carrier that has pockets
I still use a water bladder
tie a bit of cloth to a string and suck the string thru the hose and CLEAN!
I only use Distilled Water in my water bag for day trips
other trips I use the Klean Kanteen or Nalgene wide mouth bottles
I can NOT afford Titanium
I heard that klean kanteen has lid issues according to some reviews on amazon. Is it true?
Tach Lilly,ein sehr informatives Video von dir. Ich nutze die Edelstahlflasche in Militärausführung, die Nalgene in der M.- Variante, die grüne nutze ich jedoch nur auf kurzer Strecke im Rucksack. ... Gruß Swen
I've been waiting so long for you to review water bottles. 🥲
Metal you can cook in it and drink from it its tougher than the others
Yes this video was extremely informative and useful 👍