I Thought This Was A Chibson... But It's Complicated | Guitar Hunting w/ Trogly
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0:00 - Intro - Check Links in the Description
0:16 - A Very Odd 1983 Gibson Les Paul Custom
2:52 - It's Real?!
6:17 - The Conclusion
7:09 - Heavily Modified Vintage EB-0
8:29 - Lawsuit Ventura Les Paul Blonde Beauty
10:29 - 1992 Les Paul Custom Heritage Sunburst
11:18 - 3 Pickup 1978 Les Paul Custom
12:50 - 1959 Les Paul Special DC Inverness Green
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That first guitar certainly has a story behind it...
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It looks like he either rolled the finish on or dipped in a bucket with varnish and dirt. I think it is a fake.
I saw that on Ebay too. I was thinking "From what I've learned from Trogly, that can't be real"🤣
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Agreed
“Select by EMG” is to EMG as Squier is to Fender, basically. Licensed copies, passive as others said.
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The tailpiece is in the wrong spot on that Blood Orange. Gibson tailpiece are above the nearest volume knob when held upright. That's a fake.
Good spot. It’s clear just from comparing it to the other LPs in this video. I also thought the finish looked like it was done way too thick by someone who doesn’t know how to fill in the grain and sand properly. Pitted, uneven, just awful.
yes, huge tell
I love the lawsuit guitar stuff. You should take a dive into it because its a fun historical look into what was most peoples first guitars.
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Congratulations on making the podium today. Enjoy your Bronze Medal for today.
Very Close
I loved the EBO, so worn, dirty, over modded but yet very cool. I see potential for that one!! Thank you Trog!!
I can’t find that on ebay, even on the sold one…
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It's funny I was in the middle of the Gibson Icons Tonny Iommi interview when you uploaded. Time for some Gibson content in the middle of my Gibson content.
Loved the old roadworn EBO ...
(I have a weakness for it only as my first Bass was a fair EBO copy ... not because of it's tonal characteristics ! Mind you, it would be fascinating to hear the tonal range from the additional pickups ...).
Looks like the Gibson fit and finish quality us guys who grew up in the 80s know all about
Haha same as Dutch Egmond (Martin company) you knew from 100 meters 1every hunderd where great even Jammn it👍😊👍
There’s an Orville EB-3 from the 1990s on Reverb, it’s got the traditional varitone setup, unlike the “SG Bass” they’ve been selling now, and it’s short scale (Unlike the last Epiphone EB-3 which was full 34” scale and just made the neck dive worse.)
Heck yeah-! Troglodytes
9:40 That's trapezoid, not parallelogram.
My Les Paul copy has the open book headstock & pancake body
Different brand
Would have liked to have seen a picture of the neck plate
That Ventura MIJ was awesome for 695 that a sweet guitar and a great player. I’ve got a couple 70s MIJ ibanez Gibson law suit era and they are phenomenal guitars. The craftsmanship on MIJ stuff in that era is some of best.
yeah I was going to say to Trogly-chances are that's a Matsumoku MIJ Ventura-I have one of those-and they are epic. They can be so rare that even Trogly has never heard of them. They shred. Mine's a a 1971 Black Beauty. 🙂
#10 Wooo WHooo
Top 10. Great job brother.
@@sgt.grinch3299 I try!
I'm gonna lose my mind, 9:49, Trapezoid, NOT Parallelograms.................sigh
it could be an employee in Kalamazoo using up parts before losing his job. being from the Kalamazoo area I've heard stories of guys doing that
Gibson does have a database. I own an ‘81 LP Standard, and a ‘77 Flying V, and I have spoken to them more than once about these guitars. They were able to identify them.
Ventura still has a model of Guitar of their own under the Kaman or now Ovation in 1983 with a single Ventura model Ovation at least in the 2000's. Just looked that up.
Would love to buy the EB0 but the seller does not ship to Canada ..
Whys the stop so far past the knobs
trogly’s daily uploads bring me much joy and anticipation. thx for the great content!!
The volume knobs on that Gibson are the first tell-tale sign, no?
yep, the neck volume know is an inch too far north...close to the top of the guitar.
Thise are select by emg which are passive emgs which sound great in my experience
I owned an Ibanez Les Paul Custom in tobacco sunburst with a set neck in 1980. IMO it was 98% as good as my 78 Gibson LP custom with the same finish. Wish I had kept it as set-neck Ibanez’s are hard to find these days. Would love another one 40+ years later. The Super 80 pickups were killer.
Austin, the arrangement of the knobs in relation to the stoptail is incorrect. Gotta be a replica.
Ngl, if I could know the back story behind that SG Franken-bass I would totally buy it. I think it would be better marketing to just list it at a higher price and claim that the shipping is free though.
Yeah so Triumph Motorcycles & Gibson Custom Shop worked together to make a 1959 Les Paul Standard & it’s pretty cool looking, maybe try & get a hold of one to review & demo?
Love your show keep the content coming
the volume knob is to far forward of the tail piece
That questionable Gibby, due to the placement of the neck, is it still a 24.75" scale or is it now 25.5"?
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Man I really want to buy a dc special one day. That refin was nice. I liked the wine red custom too
The better the wine the better the..
Heck yah
The listing has updated... '57 Classics pickups from 2011....
Those were EMG Select pickups, which are passive, and also sound like absolute rotten dog turds. If you don’t like EMG’s you’ll reeeeeeeeeally hate their cheap junky pickups.
I had EMG selects in an 80's Epiphone Spotlight I think it was called. It had a Steinberger trem and it was neck through. Really good guitar, buy yes, absolute Dog doo pickups.
I think what sticks out to me on that "Custom" is that the binding is just way too wide, it looks like it's something like 1.5 times too wide and makes the top look ... "cramped", sort of.
Obvious to see where Hamer got the Sunburst and Special design, that Les Paul double cut.
Thanks for the ride!
10:22 Using a water bottle as an improvised neck rest is actually pretty clever. Full or empty, as long as the cap is on tight it’s all good. Empty might be the safer option.
I use a shoe sometimes, or a pair of pants wrapped around a small book
That bastard EBO was up on eBay too…..high bid was like 770……but then it was put up for auction again right away…..missed the reserve I guess?
The knobs LEPT out...Waaaaay off.....especially the one closest to the stop bar....the neck volume.
i like les paul custom and similar. i got a livewires les paul custom.
"Why did they sink the shaft of the pot through the knob" looks like a Big Boncc, as someone I know would put it. Just a good smack on a hard surface maybe? The chipping looks like blunt force.
I have a Jay Turser sg with an ebony finish. It has guitar fetish p90s in it. And it plays amazing. My dad has more guitar knowledge and he says that it almost beats my Jackson in a close game.
That B string is almost touching the tuning peg for the high E
Great video!
Former Gibson CS employee? Judging by his craftsmanship, I guess someone was rightfully fired off the plant!
Hehehe eh shitty shops first lose good personnel hehehe👍🤣👍
@@misterghee1 yeah, sure! Judging by the headstock and the gap at the humbucker that could fit a 24 fret neck, they really missed out on the marketing opportunity of having Stevie Wonder as a master luthier!
@@acoffeewithsatan I'm sure his hands make a masterpiece anyway 😁
Watching made me thing of mine I have an 70's les Paul copy I think it had no name on headstock looks like humbuckers in it but are single coil!! I had to sand it because when I got it the paint work was damaged, it's a ply body, with really nice figuring on neck, (bolt on)I have no idea what it is can anyone help me?😁👍
Hi Chris, I had an El Degas bolt on white ply LP copy, gold plating, humbuckers. Pretty good. The guy I gave it to forty some years ago still plays it!
If remembering correctly, I think I had heard that a manufacturer shipped the same model in batches to various companies and stores around the world who would then decal their own unique name ID on the guitars.
@@Riverdeepnwide I can't find any markings on it at all , it supposed to be a custom model, ( first fret inlay, binding on body neck and headstock)
Hey man that's funny - I was going to bid on that bass - I tried to get him to come down on the shipping - he says he doesn't ship ground because he's had complaints that it took too long to get there 😉
wow Good Info There Trogladies Thanks or that , I like learing about these things , Take Kare
Man, I want that Special
Jimmy Dean Hens Tooth!
Mercy, Mercy!!!!
What a fun episode to watch, lots of cool Les Paul's and IDK but that 82/83 Les Paul just seems like there's something fishy going on with that one, let the buyer beware!
Trogly, get former governor of the State of Minnesota Jessee Ventura,to ride in a Pontiac Ventura driving down Ventura boulevard, listening to America playing "Ventura Highway" while strumming a Ventura Les Paul !
That's why we let you take the time to investigate these listings.
Can you please start posting to Rumble as well?
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I knew you would win
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I still don't get why people wanna own a old guitar that is stained in tobacco tar and some guys stinch.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Gibson's site has been down for over 24 hours!
Troggin!
Looks like an Epiphone headstock that got a makeover. Looks better but too cramped together, which is also why i hate Epiphone headstocks.
Just giving you shit good show bro
My daily dose of guitars.
Trogly! Let me check out that THANG 😩
I just watched a video on Ed Roman. Are you familiar with him and his reputation and have you (unknowingly) purchased one of his fakes?
You think maybe a Delorean and a reclusive Doctorate physics professor had something to do with that guitar? Oh look apparently the owner was one of those that used doritos chip picks to play. I'm with you on that LP. At $3500 I'd just as soon buy a new or used model that I know can be proven original Authentic. Lol That 78 3 pickup LP is gorgeous even with the little imperfections.
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Second place wooohooo 🍍
So whst are the finssl verdict yes legit or no ?
nope, "custom made"
Looks like the tailpiece is too far back.
I want a black lp😥
I wouldn't buy that Les Paul. Uh uh.
That’s right folks… January zeroth, 1983
It looks like an epiphone with an ebay laminate headstock.
yeah so i saw this listing and it bamboozled the crap outta me...
If it’s a 50s Gibson you wouldn’t find Inverness green anyways
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So late.
Great to see you. Good evening
@@sgt.grinch3299 and a good evening to you too sir
That gibson logo looks like my 6 year old did it.
Micky mouse club guitar
Trapazoids.
Looks like a bunch of junk IMO. Still enjoyed the video. Keep 'em coming.
Worth 500 clams. That Les Paul, if real, has been butchered. The seller is high on crack.
I've seen chibsons that looked better.
No way it’s legit. Not interested in that wacky bass.
I was # 445 to like your show what did I win ?
But seriously though, where do people buy Chibsons? Is it safe? Are they minimally descent?
Most likely sites like aliexpress. From what I've heard they range from decent to absolute garbage. If you do buy one and import it make sure the headstock dosen't say Gibson or it might get seized by customs for being a counterfeit.
Chibsons are garbage. Technically illegal to import them to the U.S. but people do it.
@@zaccds you will find the most of the good ones are starting out at the Epiphone plant in China. I currently have 3 and I know for a fact that 2 of them were built on the side by employees.
Both have fret nibs and all Epiphone parts. They have Epi stamped on the Pro- Bucker pickups and all the hardware. Full size CTS pots, and very nice wiring.
Unfortunately the last 2 , I custom ordered were seized by US customs .
I invested between 2 and 4 hundred in each and have had many experienced players say how great all 3 play.
Since I never intend to sell them I have no problem owning them. Had I purchased the US versions of these it would easily have cost 10,000 dollars.
All 3 from China with upgrades are $ 1500.
I also have 7 US made Les Paul's each costing $ 3000 or more, so Gibson definitely got there money from me.
PS: the seller I delt with is no longer there.
@@rodrossi9749 Where did you buy them?
@@brayanlopes5222 ..... all 3 are from AliBaba. The seller is no longer there.
Old does not mean vintage. There are a lot of old guitars that are just that...old. Doesn't mean they are bad or good, but they are not vintage & never will be. Reissues and copies are never going to be vintage. This is why a lot of people don't refer to most Norlin era Gibson's as vintage. I own a '70 Gibson SG. It's not vintage. It's old. It's a great guitar but it's never going to be vintage. I love your videos but you really need to stop throwing around the term vintage for every single guitar that is old.
We will see
that fake les paul has a horrid finish. do not buy something trash like that.
Relic... too lazy to put the miles on yourself?
I bet today's subject guitar is a poor knockoff. The body is not proportioned correctly at all.
Looks like a hunk of shit regardless of what it really is.
fake
Trash. Better off getting a new LP