Is the 60s Standard Still Worth Buying in 2022? | Gibson Les Paul 60s AAA Flame Top Lemonburst

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  • @Trog
    @Trog  2 роки тому +21

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    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 2 роки тому

      A pretty lively demo today Austin, seems like you liked this LP.

    • @tippytailmckitty2658
      @tippytailmckitty2658 2 роки тому +1

      You sold it already? Dang.

    • @jonlennon3348
      @jonlennon3348 2 роки тому +1

      Could you tell us what amp you use per episode?

    • @clarkbabin9799
      @clarkbabin9799 2 роки тому +1

      When I move around any of the 14 or so guitars I have I sometimes have to open a case just to see if its lighter with out the guitar. I swear some of them weigh as much if not more than some of my guitars. I just bought a Squire Contemporary with the middle pickup offset QSR pickups and blue burst top. The pictures don't do it justice. It looks so much better than the picture.

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 2 роки тому +1

      @@clarkbabin9799 100% true Clark.
      I've had Gibson USA Cases weigh in at over 10 pounds easy.

  • @jimmyjames2022
    @jimmyjames2022 2 роки тому +84

    Pretty lemon meringue! There is no such thing as 'excessive boxing' if you order something you love and it arrives well protected, especially in these days of careless couriers.

    • @StreetPreacherr
      @StreetPreacherr 2 роки тому +2

      Some just needs to educate him that Lemon MERINGUE pie is topped with MERINGUE, not whipped cream ;)
      Unless you add Whipped Cream on top of the Meringue!

    • @loosabway3400
      @loosabway3400 2 роки тому

      Couriers have always been careless!

    • @markcheetah4960
      @markcheetah4960 2 роки тому +4

      Guitars should ALWAYS be double boxed IMO.

    • @RubbelisPro
      @RubbelisPro 2 роки тому

      Looking at you FedEx! Nowadays I only order through a website if they're offering expedited options for this exact reason. I've seen the way EXP orders get handled through distribution and sorting centers and a lot more care is placed on them than if you just send it through FedEx standard shipping where it gets thrown into a freight trailer. They'll actually put it into a separate pallet gaylord to ensure stability. Double boxing is a must these days but it doesn't really matter if you have a shitty carrier handling your packages delivery.

    • @dukeplow
      @dukeplow 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah dude, you can ship mine in a wooden crate and I wouldn’t mind.

  • @IndyRockStar
    @IndyRockStar 2 роки тому +5

    I bought my LP Standard 60s in 2021. I just put a Bare Knuckle Mule p/u in Neck and a BK Riff/Raff in the Bridge w/ BK 550k pots w/ paper in oil caps. I also upgraded the tuners to locking Grovers, the switch to a Switchcraft hand wired switch and a pure tone output jack. I run Elixir 9-42 strings. That guitar ROARS!

  • @mister-LA
    @mister-LA 2 роки тому +8

    I just bought a 2021 Les Paul 50s Standard. It had very little use and I got a substantial discount from new. I took it apart like Austin did and took lots of photos. Overall the quality is very good. This is my first Les Paul Standard and I'm very impressed. Sounds and feels great, plus its only 9.0 lbs.

  • @Zeptyche
    @Zeptyche 2 роки тому +17

    Just bought my 60’s Standard in Bourbon Burst. Received it a week ago today. It’s awesome. I own a 2017 Traditional as well and I prefer it over my Trad. Even after swapping the Trad to 57’s I prefer the 61’s.

    • @MP422ownz
      @MP422ownz 2 роки тому +3

      Bourbon burst is the best LP color of the standards...It looks so good. My 50s is a very dark iced tea, almost bourbon.

    • @1sttvbn
      @1sttvbn 2 роки тому

      Did you get the AAA?

    • @michaelcantinieri7890
      @michaelcantinieri7890 2 роки тому

      how much was that ?

  • @clarkbabin9799
    @clarkbabin9799 2 роки тому +12

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. You can always tell when Austin is inspired by the guitar he's playing. He definitely goes outside his comfort zone when he's plucking on the strings.

  • @synonyx
    @synonyx 2 роки тому +11

    I recently went through THREE of the 60's standards before I got a perfect one. I fianlly ended up buying one with a 10.1 AAA graded top from Eddie's and it's PERFECT. Always buy from a dealer who inspects and takes great pics ahead of time! And my is that one you got FLAMEY!

  • @elmorejames6867
    @elmorejames6867 2 роки тому +27

    Bought one in November 2021 and I absolutely love it. I think people make too big of a deal about the QC. It’s a mostly handmade guitar after all, there’s going to be some scuffs etc. Plus most dealers allow for free return within 30-45days if you do find a bigger issue upon playing. If you’re on the fence, go for it!

    • @davew8542
      @davew8542 2 роки тому +19

      I've bought 3 PRS core models over the past 3 years. No blemish, scuffs, tooling marks at all. Not acceptable.

    • @martin-1965
      @martin-1965 2 роки тому +3

      Hi Elmore - I just had a whine myself about the QC above but also complimented how great it sounded and looked overall. The QC is important when pretty much every other manufacturer I have bought from can deliver a guitar in AAA condition to me. It just smacks of lazy carelessness either on the part of Gibson or Sweetwater which is sad to see.

    • @elmorejames6867
      @elmorejames6867 2 роки тому +6

      I agree obvious marks or issues aren’t acceptable and should be sent back, which is where Gibson certainly drops the ball as this happens a lot. but a lot of these videos seem to put these guitars under a microscope and complain about every little thing. Just doesn’t seem like a big deal to me to have a few marks around the guitar that are not noticeable and only visible looking up close under the right lighting. I feel like the alternative is having a machine do everything like many of the imports

    • @Andrew_182
      @Andrew_182 2 роки тому +5

      @ICK
      They don’t hand carve the bodies, however they do hand finish them, sanding the belly carve, painting, finishing, etc. Gibson just posted a look at the factory not too long ago on their YT where you can see that. So there is a decent amount of hands on time.
      All that said, for the prices they charge, the level of QC issues they have regularly is unacceptable so no excuses being made here just pointing out they in fact do have a high amount of hands on time.

    • @Andrew_182
      @Andrew_182 2 роки тому +1

      @ICK like I said, not making excuses for them. Nor do I disagree with what you’re saying. Just saying there is hands on processes and that’s where these issues are coming from.

  • @MikeE-
    @MikeE- 2 роки тому +13

    I bought a cherryburst 50s standard a couple months ago that was made in very late 2021. I already had 3 other gibson lp standards made from 2019 thru January 2020. Long story short, unfortunately I definitely noticed a quality control difference from my others one. And I have a confession, I just got rid of it. But good news is I’ll just get an R9 at the right time in the future, and now I get to play my other standards more now; so it’s a win-win in the end.

  • @dodgedandle8311
    @dodgedandle8311 2 роки тому +3

    I got one: Played 3 50s necks and my hand didn’t like them, played 3 60s slim neck and just by chance the 3rd one was the one by luck it also had a Fantastic Tea Burst finish and played absolutely perfect up and down the neck after a bit of tweaking.. very pleased with mine 👍🏻🌞❤️⭐️. GIBSON DID UP THERE GAME ON THE ONE I GOT , AND THEY NEEDED TO Cos some of the Standards in the 90s we’re DOGS.. But they have listened to what we expect Thank goodness let’s hope they don’t forget about that 👍🏻🌞⭐️❤️

  • @hkguitar1984
    @hkguitar1984 2 роки тому +23

    When people send you so many guitars you must clarify "its not a gift".
    Life is good indeed.
    Excellent for Sweetwater sponsoring some of your episodes.
    I've purchased so much from Sweetwater over the last year I feel a little bit connected to this episode! ;-)

    • @justinguitarcia
      @justinguitarcia 2 роки тому +2

      Its also a transparency thing with promotional content. UA-camrs have to disclose when product was given to them for free as it can create bias in a product review

    • @wesleyAlan9179
      @wesleyAlan9179 2 роки тому +1

      Hey ole' Buddy!
      Yes! You're absolutely right about that!

    • @andy_182
      @andy_182 2 роки тому +1

      @@justinguitarcia that’s lame

    • @thenameless3271
      @thenameless3271 2 роки тому +2

      No it's not, it's a good rule to have

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 2 роки тому +1

      @@wesleyAlan9179 Wesley, hope all is well with you and your favorite Drummer.

  • @robertjones6324
    @robertjones6324 Рік тому +2

    Beautiful guitar! A work of art. Remember mine? I ordered a 60s reissue, and got the slim neck, but the shell and hardware were 50s. It was still bourbon burst. Exactly what I wanted!

  • @lovingpeace9715
    @lovingpeace9715 2 роки тому +14

    I find that since Gibson started using the plek machine many of the nuts are cut too high. Some stores might tell you it's set to Gibson specs and won't do the work to cut the groves or shave the nut down. If the action on your Les Paul is bad check the string height at the first fret you may need to have the nut shaved down

    • @waytospergtherebro
      @waytospergtherebro 2 роки тому

      I don't think you can blame the Plek machine for that any more than you can blame the Plek machine for your lack of understanding of punctuation, spelling or grammar.

    • @ericskinner7355
      @ericskinner7355 2 роки тому

      I understood your comment just fine. It's a one size fits all. The machine doesn't know the difference. What I'm not a fan of is the way the neck binding caps the ends of the frets.

    • @klittlemore2164
      @klittlemore2164 2 роки тому +4

      I agree. I bought a 60s standard from Thomann a few months ago. Sounds fantastic, but the nut is cut extremely high. Far higher than my Fender strat and tele. Far higher than my Epiphone Emperor Joe Pass (1/4 of the price of the Les Paul) and higher than all my acoustic guitars. Poor quality control from Gibson. Screw in to pickguard not straight, nut loose on jack socket. Nothing major but expected better.

    • @Techo1329
      @Techo1329 2 роки тому +1

      Indeed, my Jan 2020 built 50's was all over the place for 1st fret string height, predominantly extremely high. Also had to do a lot of saddle filing to get the radius in the ballpark.

  • @thomassawicki2065
    @thomassawicki2065 2 роки тому +2

    I just got the 50's version of the AAA top from Sweetwater. It has 57 Classic pickups , which I prefer, for a Jazz guitar.
    The AAA top is gorgeous .Mine is cherry sunburst.

  • @TomO.3678
    @TomO.3678 2 роки тому +11

    That Lemon Burst 🍋 would look very groovy on an SG! Great vid, as always! 😎✌🏻🎶🎶☘️

  • @barry3045
    @barry3045 2 роки тому +3

    I’ve wanted a 60’s LP Standard in Unburst for a while now. The one I played in person was exceptional , and I regret not buying it. Also , I just got an Epiphone Ghost Horse and it’s amazing. Very high quality, but my GH has wood chips/shavings in the case and under the back plate Cover.

  • @brad_neal
    @brad_neal Рік тому

    I just purchased a used '21 Standard with Heritage Cherry Sunburst. I don't think the guitar ever came out of the case. I can't find a scratch or any sign of playing anywhere on the guitar - it's basically new. I have wanted one of these '60 reissue's for a long time and now I finally have one. I absolutely love this thing. Nice review!

  • @AlanCheong
    @AlanCheong 2 роки тому +18

    Despite having the same wood and flame, the flames doesn't pop as much on a Gibson as compared to a PRS or a Carvin/Kiesel. Those companies tend to darken the flame first with a darker dye before applying the main color. Therefore their flames are more pronounced compared to a Gibson.

    • @joermnyc
      @joermnyc 2 роки тому +3

      I watched a woodworker’s channel, he did a desk top using the PRS way (a guitar builder fan helped him figure it out, since PRS wasn’t interested in letting their secrets out, at least to him) It’s a water based dye that’s hand wiped on and off and the trick is to do the first pass extra dark, then go lighter on the next two coats. That adds TONS of depth to the grain (his was curly, not flamed, it came out looking like a piece of stone, not wood). Gibson tends to just do a color sprayed nitro finish (though it’s electrostatic these days, they run a ground wire to the truss rod, helps even out the coat so there’s no overspray or weird issues that nitro can give (most of the time, the finish errors, that’s where the mod collection get’s their stock from).)

    • @Spiritbro77
      @Spiritbro77 2 роки тому +7

      I am perfectly happy with an understated flame top. Some of the really pronounced flames on the ones with the dye jobs get to be too much for me. That is of course a personal opinion. I just got a 60s Lemonburst last week. I kept my eye on their stock. Sweetwater shows you 4 choices you can pick from. I waited until one came up that really caught my eye and I bought it. Looks even cooler in person. I almost switched at the last minute to one that was on sale due to a few blemishes because that top was very boldly flamed and figured but I decided to stick with my original choice. Understated is not always a bad thing. :)

    • @guitarflyer172
      @guitarflyer172 2 роки тому +7

      The natural flames Gibson uses moves in the light so much more! Tons better than PRS and I have both.

    • @Zeptyche
      @Zeptyche 2 роки тому +2

      My PRS Custom 24-08 in Charcoal didn’t have the movement I would want to see in the flame. My Gibson has a better looking flame. The PRS almost looks like a satin finish in comparison. Not a big fan of the dye job.

    • @AlanCheong
      @AlanCheong 2 роки тому

      @@Zeptyche is that a SE version?

  • @HeelBJC
    @HeelBJC 2 роки тому +1

    I'm glad you took the time to point out some of the QC issues. It's disappointing to see. But getting people pissy about it is probably the only thing that'll make them improve it. I'm glad you enjoyed playing it so much though. In the end, that matters so much more.

  • @RayC234
    @RayC234 2 роки тому +5

    I just unboxed my Heritage Cherry Studio today and Wow! the top is stunning, lots o flame! and the fit and finish is on point not a flaw on it, all it needs is a couple of adjustments to suit my preference and she is good to go!

  • @dw7704
    @dw7704 2 роки тому +2

    Pickguard on or off?
    I’ve seen others say the same thing
    If you can see the woodgrain-pickguard off (to better see the woodgrain)
    Solid colour- pickguard on( so the finish doesn’t wear off)
    But exceptions would be possible

  • @ryant3600
    @ryant3600 2 роки тому

    My daughter got me the Epi 60's standard i bourbon burst when it came out a couple years ago and I was not an Epi or Gibson fan ever... Till I got that. I absolutely love it. I went to GC and checked out a Gibson 60's standard and for that price increase, I felt the Epi was just as nice and sounded just as good. So basically paying an extra 2 grand for the name IMO. But, because I really liked that Epi, I took a chance and bought a Kramer Reissue Nightswan Aztec.. Out of my 20 guitars, that is my absolute favorite guitar. Everything was just perfect on it. Seems like Gibsons "imports" are killiing it.

  • @jeremywooldridge5537
    @jeremywooldridge5537 2 роки тому +8

    I bought an Unburst and it's pretty amazing. Went the opposite direction though. Wanted the heaviest one I could find. Slightly over 10lbs. Absolutely love it. weighs less than my traditional, little bit more than my modern.

    • @f3uibeghardt522
      @f3uibeghardt522 2 роки тому +2

      10 lbs. is the sweet spot for sure.

    • @dontbelievetheliberalmedia7763
      @dontbelievetheliberalmedia7763 2 роки тому

      I’m curious why you chose heavier. Better sustain?

    • @jcrgtattoo333
      @jcrgtattoo333 10 місяців тому

      Weight is subjective I think., some guys are strong as an ox lol, one man can barley get 100lbs off the floor, another moves that kind of weight at work and at the gym all day., 10lbs to one player will feel like 5 to another

  • @jimwoodard64
    @jimwoodard64 2 роки тому +1

    I have a 50's Standard I bought when they first released (see my profile pic) that weighs 8.5 lbs. Love it. Just bought a gold top and it's heavier (over 10 lbs), but I love it too. I also got a white Custom and a 335 in the new era. Can't say I'm disappointed at all with any of them. As you can see, my color is exclusive, but it was accidental. Was supposed to be a Heritage Cherry, but wound up lemon (no burst). All of the paperwork and the model said Heritage Cherry Sunburst, but the photo and the guitar say otherwise. The letters were scratched out under the neck pickup. One of a kind for its time.

  • @monday6524
    @monday6524 2 роки тому

    I have purchased multiple guitars from Sweetwater. The double box in has saved me from a damaged return due to a forklift, etc. poking a hole in the outside box. I’ll take the extra protection Sweetwater provides. I have had one shipment where the forklift went through both boxes and made a small hole in the case. Sweetwater took care of that immediately. I do like Sweetwater’s customer service and account representatives. 😊

  • @hkguitar1984
    @hkguitar1984 2 роки тому +11

    A $200 Premium for that top seems pretty reasonable.
    I've priced true 3A maple for a build and its not cheap.

  • @unklederty
    @unklederty 7 місяців тому

    A 2021 60s standard unburst recently came up for sale near me and after enjoying a pair of beautiful Epiphones I thought it's time for a proper Gibson, but what would Trogly do? After watching this I splashed the cash and have zero regrets! The slim neck is so comfortable and the burstbuckers are incredibly versatile. I just need to resist the temptation to throw it on the work bench to take an individual look at its parts and specs.

  • @markwilliams5606
    @markwilliams5606 2 роки тому

    Got Dad's 57 Les Paul standard! Had it since 65. Am now 65. Thanks Duane Allman.

  • @TommySG1
    @TommySG1 2 роки тому +5

    I just bought one a few months ago also via Sweetwater. Mine’s the other exclusive Heritage Cherry Burst with an amazing top 🤙
    It’s a great guitar…. No complaints.

  • @davidmazza3898
    @davidmazza3898 2 роки тому

    I got a 50s standard in Feb from sweetwater. Had the Canadian case. Issues I have were some rough fret board binding. Poorly shaped, and cut nut. And frets that were not polished at the factory. I am spoiled, I have an astonishing old school luthier in town. He had it all done in a few hours. I love it, plays amazing, sounds, looks, still smells amazing. People will balk, but every guitar needs proper setup by a luthier to an individuals needs. My needs are particular. New les Paul’s come with a generic setup. They cost a lot, yes but I still love les Paul’s!

    • @michaelgranka7904
      @michaelgranka7904 2 роки тому

      I agree 100% with you. I have never bought a guitar new or used that didn't have to be set up to my specs.

  • @billydworrell8259
    @billydworrell8259 Рік тому

    I bought the LP Studio Plus in Bourbon Burst. Which could be called Burgandy burst imho . I bought it just like you did in your selection process, I saw one on the demo line . Picked it out. Then that night on the website I saw a new demo which blew me away. I texted my rep @ Sweetwater and said HEYYYYY I have to have that model. He made the switch and it's in my living room now and is glorious in every way.

  • @realmongo7565
    @realmongo7565 2 роки тому +4

    Not super crazy about the Lemonburst finish, but it does sound great, and those flames are awesome!

  • @DraftZJ
    @DraftZJ 2 роки тому +16

    I just bought my first Les Paul a couple weeks ago. 60s standard in “Rum Burst”. Got it off a guy who got it off of the demo shop. Looks the same as Bourbon Burst to me though, which is great anyways

    • @randall9000
      @randall9000 2 роки тому +3

      Congrats! Play the crap out of it and love it

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 2 роки тому +3

      Congrats ZJ, I agree with Randall, play the crap out of it.

    • @vernonhoover1387
      @vernonhoover1387 2 роки тому +1

      Congratulations.enjoy it

    • @austinledley
      @austinledley 2 роки тому +1

      I was watching that on Reverb and almost bought it. Looked like Bourbon Burst to me, but either way it was beautiful!

    • @DraftZJ
      @DraftZJ 2 роки тому

      @@austinledley Yeah not sure what the difference is, I actually just reached out to the demo shop from their original listing and asked. I don’t know that I’ll get an answer but worth a shot!

  • @alinchitown7556
    @alinchitown7556 2 роки тому +3

    I got the Sweetwater AAA demo model cherry sunburst 2 weeks ago and not a nick on it and a perfect set up. Love it. Saved me $300.

  • @SnIpErX07
    @SnIpErX07 Рік тому

    Actually I kinda missed the "modern" colours options.
    Like the 2018 Mojave burst. Blueberry burst of 2017 2019. Even the green burst on the classic was a nice colour...but this is my own opinion.
    Do understand the 50s/60s lines up are more traditional but a splash of fresh modern colours will be nice.
    There's mod shop, etc. Or like dealers exclusice models like the one in this video. But as someone in the South East Asia region. We don't get access to these online shops Gibson is offering.
    The worst part is our local dealer is not bringing in Gibson/Epiphones anymore. That includes the other brands in Gibson Brand family. I always have to resort to Japan sites 😩., but if only second hand ones are avaliable..can't get them brand new too...
    But keep dem vids coming, it's really informative

  • @rocktorrocks
    @rocktorrocks 2 роки тому +1

    I have a 2020 Standard 60’s in triburst and LOVE it. One of the best guitars I’ve had. Plays, looks, and feels great. I posted a few videos with it on my channel, love the sound of the 61R/T pickups.

  • @slash91991
    @slash91991 2 роки тому

    Bought mine today and love it. For those of you who are still deciding, let me just add my two cents here. I bought a brand new American fender strat ultra luxe last year which is the highest product line below custom shop kind of similar to Gibson standard counterpart. For me, the Gibson is built better which really surprised cause QC really isn’t gibson’s strong suit. But the other one I was choosing from had a little dent in the binding. So in conclusion, gibson is no longer the same compared to 2015-2018, they really improved a lot. At least the qc is similar if not beret then American fenders.

  • @ericbgordon1575
    @ericbgordon1575 2 роки тому +1

    The only Gibson model that I've ever owned up to now, a 2009 Les Paul Goldtop, was one that I got precisely as you mentioned at the end, pre owned, used just enough to break it in and discounted in the price tag.

    • @jameskrys5286
      @jameskrys5286 2 роки тому

      I don't buy very many new guitars. My 3 Gibsons were player grade but I didn't pay over $400 for them.

    • @ericbgordon1575
      @ericbgordon1575 2 роки тому

      When did you get each of them,@@jameskrys5286?
      Over the last 11 1/2 years that I've lived in New York City, only a few of my own guitars have been brand new. I've tried focusing on purchasing pre owned every chance I can.

  • @jimilee459
    @jimilee459 2 роки тому

    I found the scuff marks on my last 4 Gibsons to be buffing compound, it came right off. Annoying, but it’s better than real scuffs. That top is alive! I sent my new Les Paul back to Gibson to fix the hellacious tooling marks on the neck binding. They did a fabulous job. They rolled the binding and did a complete pro set up on it. I’m happy.

  • @timothycormier3494
    @timothycormier3494 2 роки тому +2

    Oh no way! Not for me. I love the plain look. That guitar is beautiful! The chevron flame is magnificent!!

  • @odblooded1
    @odblooded1 2 роки тому

    I have a 2021 50's standard in tobacco sunburst and I absolutely adore it. It's my first Gibson since my premium plus in the early 2000's that I had to part with.

  • @steveparish9210
    @steveparish9210 2 роки тому +6

    The setup u get from sweetwater is always better than most others and they double box which is greatly appreciated. Customer service is excellent also. Beautiful guitar love the lemon burst

    • @starckwest6358
      @starckwest6358 Рік тому

      Where do you but this 10.1 grade perfect? Please thks

  • @RickDeNatale
    @RickDeNatale 2 роки тому

    I bought one of the earliest 60s Originals. I went into my local Sam Ash on the day they were released. I wanted an “unburst” and they had to transfer it from another store, so I got a few days later. The serial number is 10889XXXX. The top is quite nice, although not as Tiger striped as this one. I did switch the knobs for the 50s style. I believe that the mirror knobs were only used on relatively late 1960 Standards. The “Beauty of the Burst” book only has one 60 with mirror knobs in the main gallery section, out of 8. The serial number of that one is 0 7448. Interestingly there’s another with a later serial number 0 7615 with the 50s style knobs.

  • @Eflat916
    @Eflat916 2 роки тому

    My first Gibson Les Paul is this guitar, and I got it in December. Love it, and thanks for reviewing it. Mine is perfect. Gibson did an Excellent job with mine.

  • @FloridaHammer
    @FloridaHammer 2 роки тому

    Got an ESP Eclipse and am never looking back. I’ve had (still do) a sweet LP Standard for 20 years. It’s not even close. Never had the chance to play a vintage Gibson though.

  • @FloyDZeD
    @FloyDZeD 2 роки тому +1

    My 2021 Les Paul Standard 50's weighs 8 pounds 4 ounces (which was my main reason for buying it) and Gibson goofed by putting the 60's hardware and pickups in it. They also didn't connect the ground wire, which was a royal pain to fix. So yeah, Gibson QC isn't quite where it should be but after fixing the ground I love this guitar. Much better than the 2018 Traditional I used to own.

  • @MarbsMusic
    @MarbsMusic 2 роки тому

    I recently got a 50s Standard from another vendor, I buy 90% of my gear from SW and Zzounds, pay one off, charge the other, lol! It's the non AAA but the top was amazing... just had to wait and watch until a nice one on the normal popped up. I have to say it's amazingly perfect. I have a 2017 Standard HP with the AAAA top. That one I did get at SW and my rep went and picked it out for me because the first one they sent me looked good but had a LOT of issues. The neck is SO different but both are amazing, happy to have two very nice LPs after having to sell my 1991 Standard about 17 years ago... eventually want a 60s as well or a Black Custom... not sure.

  • @mr.astrophysics9115
    @mr.astrophysics9115 2 роки тому +1

    There is no way I would give up my 2021 Epiphone Custom Koa Les Paul for any Gibson Standard Les paul

  • @jimjim7008
    @jimjim7008 2 роки тому +16

    If anyone's trying to convince me that QC has improved since the new change in ownership then they're wrong. Maybe you could say the selection has improved but surely not QC. I still feel money's best spent on used 90s LPs than current models especially the ones from the last 10 years or so. This is just my personal opinion and experience from trying out new Gibson at guitar shops over the years. Something about the vintage LPs makes new models feel plastiky if u know what I mean

    • @juanmacaceres2702
      @juanmacaceres2702 2 роки тому +4

      One thing to consider, since the pandemic most major manufacturers have had some quality issues for trying to get guitars done quicker, I tried a few mexican made Fender and Charvels and all had fret issues.

    • @sixslinger9951
      @sixslinger9951 2 роки тому +6

      i bought 3 les pauls in last year....A tribute, a 60's standard and a Slash standard..all 3 are flawless......

    • @jimherleva4541
      @jimherleva4541 2 роки тому +3

      @Mohamed Tlass
      Was going to say the same thing. All that chambering that was happening!? Vintage my arse.

    • @ChrisEck13
      @ChrisEck13 2 роки тому +1

      @@juanmacaceres2702 Yes the MIM Fenders have had the absolute worst fret sprout. Many of them will literally cut your hand.

    • @ChrisEck13
      @ChrisEck13 2 роки тому +3

      @@sixslinger9951 Same here. I've bought two brand new Gibsons, a Tribute and a Traditional Pro V, both were absolutely perfect. I've also bought a few used models as well, aside from the previous owners jacking up the set up, they were both also perfect.

  • @KakuraZenom
    @KakuraZenom 2 роки тому +2

    Trogly, the fact that I keep being interested in watching the 1 000 000th review of a Gibson Les Paul in this channel is amazing 😂
    btw I adore this top ! Wonderful

  • @scottdunbar4898
    @scottdunbar4898 2 роки тому +9

    I would love to see you review a Collings.
    You actually get what you pay for without
    all of the ridiculous QC BS.

    • @markbaum9615
      @markbaum9615 2 роки тому

      Definitely like to have....
      the Collings 290 sc......
      Collings custom shop offers stainless steel frets as well...

  • @neilthorpe3337
    @neilthorpe3337 5 місяців тому

    Not Exclusive finish for Sweetwater only, limited edition finish also available in Canada from other shops!!

  • @ValhallaDoom
    @ValhallaDoom 2 роки тому +1

    I just bought this in ice tea, I absolutely love it. Smaller frets than previous ones I’ve played in the past- makes my PRS custom 24 sound weak and meh by comparison!

  • @jimherleva4541
    @jimherleva4541 2 роки тому

    I bought a 2020 60s Standard in unburst - it’s a fantastic guitar. The set-up was so good that I haven’t needed to have it done at all in two years.
    The only thing I didn’t like was the stock pickups which were - I believe - 490T/498/Rs - they were horrible.
    Swapped the pickups and changed to the 50s wiring and the guitar is amazing.

  • @alexcaddel117
    @alexcaddel117 2 роки тому

    I agree with the back of the guitar, my 60's standard I got last year you cannot see the seam on the back until you look at the end grain on the bottom and even then, it's not that noticeable. I ended up adding locking keystone tuners, with the change in look and the beautiful flame top on it made it in my opinion the perfect guitar. If you want to see it go to sweetwater under the bourbon burst reviews titled "it's perfect".

    • @tubetone74
      @tubetone74 2 роки тому

      Which locking keystones did you use? Are they a direct drop in with the same screw hole to use? Thanks for reply.

  • @thenameless3271
    @thenameless3271 2 роки тому +7

    Pretty sure Sweetwater puts up individual photos no matter the price, if they have stock.
    As for the finish on this one, it's just too pale for me personally, that iced tea 50s would be my pick. $$$ though.
    I do wish Gibson / dealers would list the various exclusive finishes, a lot of them you just never hear about until it's too late.

    • @johnsmith-ug5tp
      @johnsmith-ug5tp 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, the center of the burst is too washed out.

    • @archieguitarz4700
      @archieguitarz4700 2 роки тому +1

      Would rather have seen them done in a lemon unburst so the top would be a uniform color.

    • @michaelsmith2785
      @michaelsmith2785 2 роки тому

      I know they had individual photos for the $450 Squier I bought.

    • @Wilco1972
      @Wilco1972 2 роки тому

      Being a cheapskate, I know at least when I bought my Gretsch through Sweetwater, the minimum to choose which guitar you got was $300. That was 2 years ago, so maybe they've changed since.

  • @chrishenderson9130
    @chrishenderson9130 2 роки тому

    I put a '61 burstbucker in the neck of my tribute, paired with a dimarzio superdistortion in the bridge. It's lovely

  • @ashleyjackson8538
    @ashleyjackson8538 Рік тому +2

    Looks amazing !! I know that a few minor marks are there . But once human sweat starts corroding the lacquer. The guitar will get better and better

  • @brandonthompson8413
    @brandonthompson8413 2 роки тому +1

    I have one of the Tri-Burst GC Exclusive's and it is one of the best guitars I have ever played, it is truly a remarkable instrument.

    • @rocktorrocks
      @rocktorrocks 2 роки тому

      Well said! Fellow triburst owner here, couldn’t agree more! One of the best guitar I’ve played, great tone, looks, feel, it has it all.

  • @harrydavis9268
    @harrydavis9268 2 роки тому +1

    I love my lemon top.I run it into a 100 watt Marshall. So wonderful !

  • @david25876
    @david25876 2 роки тому

    My ‘21 50’s standard bought new is beautiful. I did have to adjust the nut action lower but that’s expected with a brand new guitar. QC was phenomenal. It was perfect.

  • @johnnyeudrom6651
    @johnnyeudrom6651 Рік тому

    It's possible the LM stands for Long & Mcquade. These weren't only exclusive to Sweetwater. They were also Exclusive to Long & Mcquade here in Canada.

  • @michaelpaul3916
    @michaelpaul3916 2 роки тому +1

    I bought mine back in October 2021 and it came with the wrong pickups. Gibson put in '59 Tribute Wildwood Spec' pickups which are intended for WIldwood exclusive guitars. Honestly I think it's a cool mistake and it makes me feel like my guitar is super unique. Basically, I have a Sweetwater exclusive finish and Wildwood exclusive pickups.

  • @larrywilliams7969
    @larrywilliams7969 2 роки тому

    I just received my new 60s LP. Sweetwater exclusive as well. Weight on mine is 8 pounds 7.1 ounces !!!!!! I don't like the 61R adn 61T pickups. Installing Seymour Duncan Antiquity Retrospec'd pickups tonight. Gibson really hit a home run with these new models. Great guitars.

  • @glennevans5824
    @glennevans5824 2 роки тому +1

    I bought an unburst in 2019 when they just launched these…love the unburst finish…mine was AA flame but looks little better than that…Not crazy about the weights now seems as the years go on..the quality goes a little south..like it but don’t like the pale white almost middle …nice chevron maple top though

  • @btinsen
    @btinsen Рік тому

    My 2020 is immaculate. AAA. Gorgeous. I’m sure they never made them this good in the 60’s.

  • @mboyer68
    @mboyer68 2 роки тому

    I'm a manufacturing engineer. To be able to make the same exact product for 70 is is a wet dream, and it gives Gibson 70 that's to perfect their process. But they obviously haven't. I'm always amazed at the plethora of quality issues with pretty much every Gibson Les Paul you review. Daryl Braun bought two of them and swore he'd never buy another because of paint cracking between the neck and fingerboard I think, among other quality issues. Chatter marks on the neck binding are a sign of a dull cutting tool, I guess for $5000 Gibson can't bother themselves to keep a sharp $2 mill bit in the machine. Gosh I can't wait till the boomers dump their collections and the market crashes! Only then will I buy one.

  • @Smart-Alex
    @Smart-Alex 2 роки тому

    I just bought a Slash Gibson LP. Skip the 50s/60s, this is the one. OMG it’s so great!

  • @MrScrofulous
    @MrScrofulous 2 роки тому

    Sweet guitar. I have a Lemon Burst R9 Monster Top from 1998, so I’m partial.
    Nice to see your improved playing, that heavy pick attack is gone.
    A loud tube amp will help with that.

  • @MetalGreggNY75
    @MetalGreggNY75 2 роки тому +1

    Question…did this version have the pull knob to go from humbucker sound to a single coil sound? I have to say though I am more of a plain black, tobacco or iced tea burst with the pick guard. Sweetwater is a great place to get gear from. Every time I have gotten stuff from them…they’ve been great.

  • @deancarrier123
    @deancarrier123 2 роки тому

    I have a 2021 AAA in that finish except mine has a natural colord back. I picked up instore in fort Wayne indi Sweetwater. Because it was my biryhday they gave me a shockingly fantastic price that I will not state as to not throw them under the buss.. Just shocked that they let me have it. .... Great guitar

  • @beatmasterbossy
    @beatmasterbossy 2 роки тому +1

    Give it 30 years, it'll come into its own.
    It'll be stunning.

  • @HeelBJC
    @HeelBJC 2 роки тому

    I bought my first Les Paul recently, a 2017 Traditional in Heritage Cherry, and I really think that series is a super value pick. At least if you want to play it, not flip it. It's basically a standard in all but name and because of that name it gets dinged in value. My example has a ridiculous flame top, but they allegedly used AA wood for them. The thing is that they vary by year pretty heavily. Like mine randomly didn't ship with the pickguard installed, just in the case. No idea why that decision was made for a guitar called "traditional," but I don't really care about that stuff lol.

  • @davew8542
    @davew8542 2 роки тому +29

    I don't understand the acceptance / dismissal of tooling marks on a brand new guitar at this price. It's just not right they let this fly. Giving a nice AAA top, charging more, yet let tooling marks pass QC. Oh "because it's a Gibson". Ridicules IMO

    • @leamanc
      @leamanc 2 роки тому +3

      It’s crap like this, among many other things, that makes me wonder how Trogly can love Gibson so much. It would be one thing if this guitar were Epiphone prices.

    • @johnsmith-ug5tp
      @johnsmith-ug5tp 2 роки тому +1

      There is no way in hell their final inspection guys didn't see it. That tells you the head guys at gibson are telling the worker bees, Ship it! We have to hit our production numbers this month! Get it out the door. They are such sleazeballs! The decent thing to do is put these guitars with scuffs and blemishes on their demo/mod site or tell sweetwater to sell them as blemished for $300 or $400 off. They are counting on their dopey loyal fanboys to accept it. Apparently, many do. HA

    • @Airhead348
      @Airhead348 2 роки тому +2

      I'm curious what you expect them to do, dump it and start over?

    • @leamanc
      @leamanc 2 роки тому +4

      @@Airhead348 Selling it at a discount, instead of a $300 premium, would seem to be what most companies would do.

    • @Airhead348
      @Airhead348 2 роки тому +1

      @@leamanc yea if it's really noticeable.

  • @dananthony6258
    @dananthony6258 2 роки тому +2

    I love that smoke house burst.

  • @mooretrevor6685
    @mooretrevor6685 2 роки тому

    (Part 2) can buy and sell completely free of taxes and duties. This is a HUGE deal, especially since the guitar you highlighted, a Gibson EB2 Bass, also offered free shipping| So, the price quoted is all you pay.

  • @davew8542
    @davew8542 2 роки тому +1

    I just bought the same style of case, same latches etc for a LP Junior. It was made in Costa Rica

  • @philbrown6787
    @philbrown6787 2 роки тому +1

    whoa! that lemon burst is bright!
    I like it more than a strictly natural finish. Much prefer a p/guard
    Now if I just had the moola

  • @jasonboyce9650
    @jasonboyce9650 2 роки тому +1

    Absolutely beautiful guitar! During this demo video I had a thought. What if Gibson did the whole guitar, top and all that transparent cherry? Have they done that? What about a triple A topped (no binding) studio!? Keep up the good work!

  • @2112GTR
    @2112GTR 2 роки тому

    Good to see they are finally sorting the cases out, because these look closer to the old tan case of the 1990's (same type of handle, and better quality latches., maybe a 'key lock' latch, not the stupid hasp thing). You pay enough for a Gibson these days, at the very least they can put it in a decent TKL case as standard, for no extra outlay!

  • @Jaggedknife11
    @Jaggedknife11 2 роки тому +1

    Damn trogly, you've really improved as a player in the last few years. Great tone and feel on the distorted demonstration.

  • @adampeacock2009
    @adampeacock2009 Рік тому

    Do you find the neck sticky? I love my Tribute due to the satin finish.

  • @motothumper5598
    @motothumper5598 2 роки тому

    I just got one of these. I'm not sold on the 61t and 61r. I also have a 2012 std with burstbucker pros. The 2012 sounds better to my ears. The 61 pickups sound a bit thin. What would be a good replacement? Thinking of a JB/59 set.

  • @sixstringguitarist1937
    @sixstringguitarist1937 2 роки тому

    Gibson call this 'Unburst'. Photos always look better than real life. Swear it's how they entice us to buy them 🤣.
    I have a 2021 Standard 60s Bourbon Burst. It's become my main guitar over my US Strats and Tele.
    Mine also has that lovley Nitrocellulose smell when you open the case. There's tiny tiny finish faults they still tried to skimp and bash more of them out quicker but it's very very minimal but I'm OCD af so I noticed it.
    But in all killer guitar, plays outstandingly with good proper weight 9lbs. 🔥

  • @fernandoscrom
    @fernandoscrom 8 місяців тому

    On the minute 14:45, it says "middle" but the 3-pos switch seems to be in the bridge pickup.

  • @gratao25
    @gratao25 2 роки тому +1

    I like the 50s specs better but the 60s finishes options are so much better, it's even unfair

  • @Spiritbro77
    @Spiritbro77 2 роки тому

    This is SO wild. I JUST bought one of these last week. 60s Lemonburst. I LOVE the top on these. Each one is unique. Hope you enjoy yours man. Peace

    • @Spiritbro77
      @Spiritbro77 2 роки тому

      Oh, and that is a sweet looking top man. Nice figuring. I think you made a good choice on that one.

  • @zrotzel
    @zrotzel Рік тому

    I bought a 2022 Les Paul special on reverb. Came with the same style case.

  • @aprilkurtz1589
    @aprilkurtz1589 2 роки тому +2

    I really love that yeller guitar. The only one that I like more is the smokehouse burst!!

    • @ramencurry6672
      @ramencurry6672 7 місяців тому

      Yelller?

    • @aprilkurtz1589
      @aprilkurtz1589 7 місяців тому

      @@ramencurry6672 You've never seen Old Yeller, I take it?

  • @adamwilliams1980
    @adamwilliams1980 2 роки тому +1

    Cool, would be interesting to hear your view on the 50s model too

  • @stevestruble2142
    @stevestruble2142 Рік тому

    Sounded great, what kind of amp did u use?

  • @whiteninja2006
    @whiteninja2006 2 роки тому

    My main gripe about the newer Gibson USA Les Pauls is that they are just way too dark sounding imo. This one sounds nice, but still has that veil over it making it dark sounding. It would definitely benefit from a pickup and wiring upgrade (Better PAFs and 50s wiring and 500k pots, not sure if Gibson still uses the 300k ones). I like the ABR-1, not sure about the stud inserts, but as long as it resonates nicely, it doesn't matter. Altogether a very nice instrument by the looks of it, just needs some upgrades to really get it rocking imo.

  • @jameshughes6049
    @jameshughes6049 2 роки тому

    I got my 60's unburst back in February & it's just awesome!!!

  • @waynebake1123
    @waynebake1123 2 роки тому +3

    I have a 2020 60's and love it!

    • @davehopping7212
      @davehopping7212 2 роки тому +2

      Mine's a 5/20/19 Bourbon Burst '60s. I've owned (and heavily gigged) 5 Les Pauls over 45 years and this one is hands down the best of the lot.

  • @PlatinumBlack90038
    @PlatinumBlack90038 2 роки тому

    The 61R & 61T pickups have the harsh-sounding AlNiCo V magnets. I prefer the warmer-sounding AlNiCo II magnets. 🧲🧲

  • @vincentnieto7792
    @vincentnieto7792 2 роки тому

    Would you ever do a review on the 50’s standard that has been made in the last 3 years Trogley? That would be awesome.

  • @kiljoy3254
    @kiljoy3254 Рік тому

    I’m just not so keen on the shiny high gloss; the magic of the natural finish Les Paul, aesthetically, is that it evokes the antique beauty of a Stradivarius

  • @robstanton9215
    @robstanton9215 Рік тому

    I’m relatively new to your channel and I’m thoroughly enjoying it! You definitely have a wealth of knowledge regarding many types of guitars Les Pauls obviously holding your highest regards. I’m a Les Paul lover as well. I’m also a huge fan of Guild acoustic guitars of yesteryear. That began with my father giving me a 1958 Guild F-47 when I was in high school that he bought brand new in 1959 and paid $650 for it then. Sadly, that guitar was stolen from me. Off that subject I recently bought a black LP Classic on Reverb. I paid $1850 for it and it is in mint condition. Do you think that was a good deal? It’s a 2020 model. Thanks for your channel.

  • @leoolivero963
    @leoolivero963 2 роки тому

    Am I missing something? My 60s Gibbo LP's colour is labelled as being "unburst". The case was made in Costa Rica/2020. The one in this video being "lemonburst", is it the same colour??? Mine is darker, similar tone, just darker. There were no scuffs or scratches on mine. I love it.

    • @leoolivero963
      @leoolivero963 2 роки тому

      OK, so at the end of the video Austin states that his LP's colour is exclusive to Sweetwater. Got that - all good, but I did not recall hearing him mention nor seeing any "unburst" as one of the standard's colours for 2022. BTW, my LP was purchased in Australia; would that be the reason? Am probably still missing something....

  • @lllULTIMATEMASTERlll
    @lllULTIMATEMASTERlll 2 роки тому +1

    The lemon is too white in the middle. Unfortunately, I’m always disappointed by non-custom shop flame tops.

    • @renodavid
      @renodavid 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly my thinking. It has an odd bleached-out look I didn’t like much at all.