Awesome. I've been curious about LFIC but haven't had time to research it. We do a lot of SFIC but this is the 1st time I saw anything about LFIC. Thank you. #Lockboss
I am new to lock smithing. I just took my first class and got registered in my state. After being a stay at home mom for 15 years I am ready for a new challenge. I have watched many of your videos and learned a lot. Thank you. #lockboss
that was a really awesome video I really was a little confused about the difference between the two but now I get it thank you for all your great videos and always a learning and teaching aide #lockboss
I'm glad this information is given about all the different systems. I'm an institutional locksmith that has ONLY worked with SFIC, so I'm kinda biased. I can see how LFIC would definitely be easier and more useful to someone who worked with regular hardware and pinning kits. Keeps supply and parts down as well. #Lockboss
Hey PJ, good video on the LFIC. Schlage is not the only LFIC system, like Yale LFIC works on the same concept with an extra pin and a longer control key. #LockBoss
Thank You ImGumbyDangit. I read Your Comment and Learned Something Else Today. I'm always looking to Improve My #Lockboss Knowledge. You've help me do that Today.
I have always called the type of IC cores that activate a control pin, a FSIC (Full Size IC). The type that work a whole separate shear line like the Best SFIC I call them LFIC. For example Sargent, Medeco, ASSA Interchangeable cores are formatted with two shear lines. Whatever they are called It was a great video about Schlage Interchangeable Core systems. Thanks for sharing #lockboss
Great explanation of LFIC PJ. LFIC is easier to work with than SFIC; I have worked with both for years. I appreciate all the informative videos you put out for the #Lockboss community!
Love the Schlage LFIC. I like that Schlage and Yale have systems where the control key is a bit longer because it’s an easy system to key without needing specials pins or software(or paper calculations). PJ made a great video a while back on how to make a Schlage control key out of a regular blank in a pinch(wrote this before the section in the video😂). #LockBoss
Great, the next time this #Lockboss eats alphabet soup, I'm going to be looking for SFIC, LFIC, and will consider it a bonus if I see CTRL floating around in there.🍲🍲🍲
I like doing Schlage can get information from customer much easier on what keyway etc but Keep getting Best locks with no Core key Nothing but FUN #lockboss
Very clear information on Schlages LFIC. Might you be interested in doing an video talking about the brand diffences, Yale, Sargent, and Corbin LFIC are vastly different from each other.#lockboss
Great info! When rekeying Schlage SFIC, when you insert the follower, be careful not to dislodge the pin assembly that locks the core in. It's kind of a pain to get back in place. #LOCKBOSS
I personally like Schlage LFIC and reccomend it whenever I can. It's simple and fast to pin up and you can bring already pinned up cores with you for super fast rekeys especially for exit hardware. If a control key is nowhere to be found, you don't have to drill out the cores, as with SFIC, for LFIC you can just make one on the spot. You can throw your restricted MX cores and also Schlage Primus cores into the outside doors or other high security areas without touching the hardware. You can throw them in padlocks as well. #Lockboss
The great part about Schlage LFIC is that any locksmith can service with standard tools and training. The bad part is that anyone can service it with standard tools and training. If you can get your customers onto SFIC, you have a much better chance of holding onto your customer. Also, someone with a change key (PJ calls it a Working Key) can't figure out how to make a Control Key, or worse yet a MASTER Key, with SFIC. Much more secure. One last thing is that because SFIC has so many depths and spaces and such a high tolerance, it supports HUGE master key systems, where LFIC kind of limits your number of possible change keys in a system.
I install quite a few of these in rim cylinders on exit hardware(panic bars) on locations that frequently change locks. Customers like that as it cuts down the cost when I rekey, I don’t have to remove panic bar to rekey. Another feature I have control key and code so it necessitates calling me for rekeying.#lockboss
I’m mostly familiar with sfic, But if a customer had lfic lever handle and wanted to convert to sfic, can I just pull the handle and tailpiece itself and install a handle that’s for sfic (with its unique tailpiece) or would they have to change the whole thing? #lockboss
So is Schlage the only current LFIC in town? I've got some Corbin Russwin in my collection, and trying to make sense out of them, and make some control keys...and I know they're bigger than SFIC AND they have two shear lines! #lockboss
Good introduction, but I feel you're missing a major point. It's critical to know that not all LFIC are the same in terms of size. Whereas SFIC is a universal size/form factor across every single manufacturer, LFIC is not. You cannot interchange Large Format Interchangeable Cores between different manufacturers' LFIC housings. The physical dimensions of the LFIC are different between manufacturers (except for Yale and Medeco which has a shared history). For example, a Schlage FSIC (Schlage calls their large format "Full Size Interchangeable Cores") will not fit into a housing/lever/knob/whatever that is prepped for Sargent LFIC, and vice versa. The most common LFIC/FSIC in the US market where I work are Schlage, Corbin Russwin, Medeco, Yale, Sargent, and Mul-T-Lock. Other global brands like Abloy and BiLock also make retrofit LFIC products. Here's a recommended #Lockboss reading list to hone your LFIC knowledge: -- "The Core of the Matter" by Billy B. Edwards, Jr. -- "Removable Cores: Large Format" by William M. Lynk
How to make a LFIC Control Key: ua-cam.com/video/6QJcIbkJPAU/v-deo.html
Another great video, PJ. Very informative and thorough. Thank you for doing what you all do. #Lockboss
Great information. Definitely looking into adding this to my F I C #Lockboss repertoire.
Another quality video, thanks PJ #Lockboss
It is always good to learn about different systems. #Lockboss
Great video PJ #Lockboss
W0W That Was Awesome For Sure. My Wife Explained It To Me The Very Same Way Since She Is Also A #LockBoss Thank You ! 👍
Awesome. I've been curious about LFIC but haven't had time to research it. We do a lot of SFIC but this is the 1st time I saw anything about LFIC. Thank you. #Lockboss
Very Cool PJ. Thank you #lockboss
I'm going to have to spend more time with this #lockboss video
Good info for #lockboss
Thanks PJ. I didn't know you did a video on making a control key! I could not find the link in the description but I found the video thanks. #LockBoss
Thanks, just pinned the link -PJ
Great video as usual there PJ ..... I now have more info. for the tool box and can tackle more jobs ... Thank You Sir.... #LOCKBOSS
I really enjoy these simple vids they are always sooo helpful as refreshers
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Nicely explained pj...thank you 🌴😎
Great information #Lockboss
Thank you for all of your informational videos, I appreciate them very much! #Lockboss
Thanks, PJ. The LFIC sounds good. #Lockboss
Another great video. #Lockboss
Great explanation! Thanks. #Lockboss
Great video as always. #Lockboss
I am new to lock smithing. I just took my first class and got registered in my state. After being a stay at home mom for 15 years I am ready for a new challenge. I have watched many of your videos and learned a lot. Thank you. #lockboss
I really enjoy watching your alls videos. Always learning more and more outstanding job to clk for this #lockboss
Love the video you did a few years ago about LFIC also #lockboss
that was a really awesome video I really was a little confused about the difference between the two but now I get it thank you for all your great videos and always a learning and teaching aide #lockboss
I'm glad this information is given about all the different systems. I'm an institutional locksmith that has ONLY worked with SFIC, so I'm kinda biased. I can see how LFIC would definitely be easier and more useful to someone who worked with regular hardware and pinning kits. Keeps supply and parts down as well. #Lockboss
Great video. Really appreciate all the insight and knowledge.#lockboss
#Lockboss, great vid!
Great information. Never worked with either one and didn't know there was such a difference. Thanks for sharing
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Never worked on lfic great info #lockboss
Thanks PJ. I've worked with lfic and like you say, it's an easy system to work with. #lockboss
I learned Schlage LFIC on a large scale job. I'm now very proficient with these. They're not too bad. #Lockboss
Hey PJ, good video on the LFIC. Schlage is not the only LFIC system, like Yale LFIC works on the same concept with an extra pin and a longer control key. #LockBoss
Thank You ImGumbyDangit. I read Your Comment and Learned Something Else Today. I'm always looking to Improve My #Lockboss Knowledge. You've help me do that Today.
I always called these FSIC, full size interchangeable cores. But anyway, great explanation of them! #lockboss
I think FSIC and LFIC are interchangeable in the case of Schlage.
FANTASTIC INFORMATION Today PJ. I had NEVER done an LFIC Lock so didn't know the Differences in them. TODAY You've made Me a BETTER #Lockboss
Great info #LOCKBOSS
I have always called the type of IC cores that activate a control pin, a FSIC (Full Size IC). The type that work a whole separate shear line like the Best SFIC I call them LFIC. For example Sargent, Medeco, ASSA Interchangeable cores are formatted with two shear lines.
Whatever they are called It was a great video about Schlage Interchangeable Core systems.
Thanks for sharing #lockboss
Lily always has the best #Lockboss questions 🔐🔑
#Lockboss. I do a lot of Schlage LFIC. But not many of the Best SFIC. Would be nice to see a video on that. Thanks PJ!
If you search on our channel you will find a bunch of videos about SFIC! -PJ
Great explanation of LFIC PJ. LFIC is easier to work with than SFIC; I have worked with both for years. I appreciate all the informative videos you put out for the #Lockboss community!
I love SFIC and it looks like LFIC would be #lockboss fun to play with.
Whaddya mean LFIC and SFIC aren't interchangeable? What's the 'I' in them even for then anyhow? 😜 lol, good info on LFIC locks, thanks PJ! #lockboss
Good info. #Lockboss
Very informative #lockboss
Love the Schlage LFIC. I like that Schlage and Yale have systems where the control key is a bit longer because it’s an easy system to key without needing specials pins or software(or paper calculations). PJ made a great video a while back on how to make a Schlage control key out of a regular blank in a pinch(wrote this before the section in the video😂). #LockBoss
Great, the next time this #Lockboss eats alphabet soup, I'm going to be looking for SFIC, LFIC, and will consider it a bonus if I see CTRL floating around in there.🍲🍲🍲
Great presentation I'll add to the confusion Schlage uses the term FSIC- it's an LFIC system but just by a different name. # lockboss # safeboss
Thanks for the add -PJ
Great information. I’ve pined up a few SFIC but I’ve never done anything with the LFIC. Maybe I’ll grow up to be a #LockBoss one day…
Great information as always #lockboss
I like doing Schlage can get information from customer much easier on what keyway etc but Keep getting Best locks with no Core key Nothing but FUN
#lockboss
Very clear information on Schlages LFIC. Might you be interested in doing an video talking about the brand diffences, Yale, Sargent, and Corbin LFIC are vastly different from each other.#lockboss
Good idea -PJ
I don't see a lot of them, but I will keep this in mind when I do. #Lockboss
Langworth Crest
Great info! When rekeying Schlage SFIC, when you insert the follower, be careful not to dislodge the pin assembly that locks the core in. It's kind of a pain to get back in place.
#LOCKBOSS
Good tip, thanks -PJ
Awesome I use IC Core a lot and I have MX-13 lfic a keeper #lockboss
😍-PJ
I personally like Schlage LFIC and reccomend it whenever I can. It's simple and fast to pin up and you can bring already pinned up cores with you for super fast rekeys especially for exit hardware. If a control key is nowhere to be found, you don't have to drill out the cores, as with SFIC, for LFIC you can just make one on the spot. You can throw your restricted MX cores and also Schlage Primus cores into the outside doors or other high security areas without touching the hardware. You can throw them in padlocks as well. #Lockboss
The great part about Schlage LFIC is that any locksmith can service with standard tools and training. The bad part is that anyone can service it with standard tools and training.
If you can get your customers onto SFIC, you have a much better chance of holding onto your customer. Also, someone with a change key (PJ calls it a Working Key) can't figure out how to make a Control Key, or worse yet a MASTER Key, with SFIC. Much more secure.
One last thing is that because SFIC has so many depths and spaces and such a high tolerance, it supports HUGE master key systems, where LFIC kind of limits your number of possible change keys in a system.
I install quite a few of these in rim cylinders on exit hardware(panic bars) on locations that frequently change locks.
Customers like that as it cuts down the cost when I rekey, I don’t have to remove panic bar to rekey.
Another feature I have control key and code so it necessitates calling me for rekeying.#lockboss
William Lynx literally wrote the book on Large Format Cores! #lockboss
Nice!!! -PJ
Hmm, I couldn't think of anything to add to your LFIC presentation. #lockboss
#Lockboss always learn something new
Always a fan of the IC core that doesn't require math homework to pin it up! #lockboss
I Like Schlage LFIC. Then SFIC. #lockboss
Connelly Harbors
I’m mostly familiar with sfic, But if a customer had lfic lever handle and wanted to convert to sfic, can I just pull the handle and tailpiece itself and install a handle that’s for sfic (with its unique tailpiece) or would they have to change the whole thing? #lockboss
So is Schlage the only current LFIC in town? I've got some Corbin Russwin in my collection, and trying to make sense out of them, and make some control keys...and I know they're bigger than SFIC AND they have two shear lines! #lockboss
Good point I should have said Schlage LFIC -PJ
This was great, I have one question though, why is it that SFIC is more common? I assume it's just been around longer? #Lockboss
I think it’s mainly due to how vast the systems can be. -PJ
Can you master key and LIC where 10 locks one key works all of them but every two locks a different key will also work them
For sure -PJ
Janick Port
There is even a new Lishi for Schlage LFICs. #lockboss
Not much sfic or flic in my area - just nsp controlled spaces even then few and far between - small town issues I guess
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Franecki Courts
Being mostly self taught, the terminology can be a challenge to me. #Lockboss
I find lfic has less problems than sfic due to smaller pin stack and no plugs #Lockboss
Germaine Mount
Janie Gateway
Kuhlman Locks
Farrell Lane
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Good introduction, but I feel you're missing a major point. It's critical to know that not all LFIC are the same in terms of size. Whereas SFIC is a universal size/form factor across every single manufacturer, LFIC is not. You cannot interchange Large Format Interchangeable Cores between different manufacturers' LFIC housings. The physical dimensions of the LFIC are different between manufacturers (except for Yale and Medeco which has a shared history). For example, a Schlage FSIC (Schlage calls their large format "Full Size Interchangeable Cores") will not fit into a housing/lever/knob/whatever that is prepped for Sargent LFIC, and vice versa. The most common LFIC/FSIC in the US market where I work are Schlage, Corbin Russwin, Medeco, Yale, Sargent, and Mul-T-Lock. Other global brands like Abloy and BiLock also make retrofit LFIC products.
Here's a recommended #Lockboss reading list to hone your LFIC knowledge:
-- "The Core of the Matter" by Billy B. Edwards, Jr.
-- "Removable Cores: Large Format" by William M. Lynk
Great comment, thank you -PJ
Good info ##Lockboss
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