I'm not looking for an 80K electric SUV ... don't like SUVs and don't have 80K burning a hole ... but I was rivetted, one of the best, most perceptive and enjoyable car reviews I've ever seen.
When you see that in some countries an e-Tron costs in business leasing not much more than an ID.3/ID.4; less than a Tesla M3 SR+, perhaps you will take an SUV even you do not really like the concept.
Thank YOU for watching. SUVs I struggle with on the basis that they don't really do anything better than a sorted estate car. They are heavier, less efficient, cost more to run, harder on brakes and tyres, and nobody really goes offroading in them. Increasingly, you also look like a clueless dinosaur driving them.
Ok for towing caravans but I'm the same not really better than an estate , although some bloke took one round combe a seat Alhambra 1.8 t rear wheel was a foot in the air round the chicane .
How do you review a car virtually none of your audience can afford without offending us? By sharing your excitement and incredulity, tempered by insight and humour, that's how. Good review mate.
'Virtually none' was a rhetorical device, but costing around three times the median annual salary of a full-time UK worker places it far beyond the means of the vast majority of us, so I think the thrust of my comment is sound. Happy for you if you have such means at your disposal, but take a look at the Polestar first brother.
Very few, of course, because we have already self-selected out of the content by clicking away, to the detriment of the channel. I thought Jonny had skilfully managed to keep a broad range of viewers engaged and entertained reviewing a highly aspirational product, in a medium with a notoriously short attention span. And that is a real skill well worth celebrating and encouraging.
Leon Baradino - Speak for yourself. I’m looking at all these E-Tron reviews b/c this is a serious contender for my next car. Drove one for a week while my A6 was in the shop. Wasn’t the sports back version, but nevertheless absolutely LOVED the car.
I have the SB55 , and I love it ! Luckily here in Norway we have tons of charging stations so range is never an issue . Love the car and the luxury and the drive comfort is second to none. I previously had a Tesla X
@@FlorinArjocu I can say for me personally everything is an upgrade in the Audi , except the app and the range . When it comes to range , I hardly never drive more than 400 km in one go. In Norway we have tons of chargers all over and at home I have a wall mounted charger , so range is a non issue . The app, yeah well the Audi app is pretty bad, but it keeps getting better, but the car. Wow the car is such a great piece of engineering. Drives great, it's so silent and it feels really luxurious. Its also a head turner , as the Tesla is something you see everywhere , the sportsback is quite new and tons of people come over to ask what car it is . We are quite lucky here in Norway as we get a lot of government grants to buy electric , so the price isn't as bad as it is in the UK ( and we normally have very expensive cars here in Norway )
@@Plex86 Sorry for bugging you. I have a curiosity: many Tesla fans use the acceleration argument, that thr cars are the fastest (or so) in the world. Was that a factor? In my mind, for a family car I want confort, could not give a damn for getting to 100 kmps in 5 seconds compared to 8 seconds. Do you feel this is important? Thanks.
Loved the Rancho.... amazing what Matra did with the bog standard Alpine 1442cc engine and running gear... I had a Bagheera and the later Murena.. cool looking cars if very underpowered 🤨
Polestar 2 is pretty useless or longer drives. 11h45 for 1000 km, an hour slower than the medium battery VW ID.3 that's multiple classes more affordable. Full hour slower over a base Model S that weighs the same but has a much large battery and cargo space.
What I love about Johnny's reviews are that it is like sitting in the car with your knowledgeable mate giving you the lowdown on his latest motor. Great work. Like the etron, but, evs generally are buying their way out of inefficient design with ever more powerful batteries - and that is a worrying trend
I always wondered,when filing up the twin SU's on my rover SD1,if the viscosity of the oil I used would actually make a noticeable difference.(and,were does the oil go? As it used to need weekly top ups)
@@gbej1 I initially fell in love with Tesla, but feel the build quality is not the same as well established cars, such as Audi or Polestar. (Volvo.) That's just my own opinion and I might be wrong. I had a test drive in a top of the range model S and it blew my mind away. What Tesla have achieved is phenomenal, but other car manufacturers are catching up, most with better quality and a far more superior reputation. I feel Polestar are very different and I like different. Everyone will choose Audi's, Tesla's, Jaguars, etc. It's just my personal taste. But, just to contradict myself, an Audi with a combustion engine, such as an RS5 will twist my arm. And that probably doesn't answer your question. 🤪
John Cutler. What puts me off Teslas....at least for now, is the plethora of obviously sponsored Tesla reviews all over the place who will eulogies over Teslas as if their lives depended on it. What really gets me with the model 3 is people trying to convince everyone that substituting practically every car function with one giant touch screen is some technological revolution, rather than calling it what it is which is cost cutting.
@@Cheetahcubb About the only brand differentiator between the two is the badge, though. The seats, grille shape, headlights, touchscreen for the infotainment, steering wheel and a lot of other parts are straight from Volvo, and one of the V60 PHEV trim levels is "Polestar Engineered", so they're only separate on paper. You're probably right that Volvo will do a BEV estate, though, I just felt that, had the Polestar adopted the shape, they'd see higher sales through being first to market.
@notformebeaky Look fool. You cant afford a MX and probably havent even sat in one. But, as an owner, I can tell u, this POS Audi cant compare. No matter what your silly little brain thinks. BTW, the best looking SUV with the optional 22 inch turbine wheels and suspenssion set to low. Black on black. Looks as good as any other SUV on the road. But how would you know fool? I bet u drive a VW Polo so what do u know? SMH.
@notformebeaky WTF r u saying fool. Like I said u drive a VW Polo so wtf do u know about the cars that cost 5 years worth your salary? First, sit in a Model X, then drive, and then u can have your stupid opinion. Otherwise, dont be spewing bs online.
My Q3 is paid up now my dealer called to talk about what I'm getting next. They loaned me the 55 e-tron for a weekend when it was launched and he knows I want an EV next, I made that clear 5 years ago when I bought this Euro6 diesel. They only have the two 'trons at the moment and they're way over budget. MEB based Q4 is on the way but 2nd quarter next year? maybe? He's asked me in to all about optimum trade-in and to see what they can do. I will go listen to what they offer and I'll be dead straight. I love the Audi, the build quality and the cabins. I've been the factory and suppliers here in Belgium for work, They're a technical masterpiece and extremely well engineered. Their pricing though, swings right out the pan. A new Q3, similar spec to mine is over €60k with all the options. for that money I've got a Tesla or Polestar and leaning slightly towards the Polestar because everyone has a Tesla, a bit like everyone has an Audi.
@ana lord Merde is 'shit' and is commonly used as a swear word, like we use 'Shit'. 'Étron' is turd, as in what you, dogs and cats produce, not the sloppy piles cows and horses produce.
I drive the Sportback and absolutely love the car. Smooth, quiet, luxurious. And fits my road bike perfect. Bought the Tesla charging stations adaptor and now traveling is even better.
I'm getting my etron sport back next week (can't wait) - I'm getting it on an NHS lease. There's a lot of chat about the massive cost. The funny thing for me has been, the monthly lease cost for this car was significantly less than a tesla x and a little less than the ipace, polestar and merc EQC despite the varying costs of all those cars....
Hi Tom, I was thinking of doing the same. Is it possible to know how the car is. What real life range are you getting please? did you go for the 7kw home charger also?is the payments under 400 monthly? are you happy with the car?
@@febinneo hi - yeah, loving the car. Its big, quiet and comfy but it can shift when it needs too - it's a lovely place to be, it's all very intuitive once you settle I to it. Came out for me at £420 a month on 20,000 miles a year - includes insurance, maintenance, tyres (bear in mind they a £370 rrp a go! ), break down. But I get my full travel expenses with work and electric is working out about half the cost of diesel. (my normal monthly fuel spend was £200 per month or a tank a week ish - last 2 weeks of charging has come out at about £40 electric). I'm. Getting between 2.2 and 2.8kw/mi depending on traffic and how I drive - it says in manual give it 3k miles to settle in though before I pass judgement on efficency. Its thirsty vs other EVs but still cheaper than diesel. Haven't done a full range trial yet but it looks like 180- 200 miles with careful driving is achievable. It charges stupidly fast on a high power charger. Yep I got a 7kw pod point - charges up without a fuss reliably. 30% charge takes a mere 4 hours so even a full chargecan be done over night.
The idea is great. But also it's another thing that's totally over-engineered and can easily fail. And what happens when the camera is obstructed by a dead bug?
@@mbirth how would a bug die on the back side of a mirror (camera)? Do you drive backwards allot at top speed in reverse? Do you hear yourself think before you type?
Markus Birth the lights are good, you essentially are always on high beam and the individual leds turn on and off to avoid blinding other road users. It’s so fascinating driving as a passenger and watching it light up areas and darken others
This is the way a car review should be, good, polite and professional literature, unlike Carwow which is in a childish grammar or Top Gear which looks like a stupid comedy from 3 stooges..
If I were buying an EV now, I’d probably be looking at the Soul. Yes it doesn’t have the brand power of the bigger names, it’s a bit boxy to look at but it’s practical. I really like the Polestar 2 but given the marques origin, I’d want an estate! And both would allow a naughty piston car for weekend fun 😁
Slow the playback to 50% when he starts arguing with himself about the headlights to understand what he’s saying. It doesn’t fix the pitch shift, though.
In the USA the Feds give you a $7500 and Colorado gives you $4000 and the dealer cuts the pice between $5000 to $9000 off the MSRP. Taking that into account it is a fantastic deal. I have two Etron’s.
Absolutely, I would get the Polestar over this any day of the week. It’s almost as stylish, way cooler, far less expensive, almost if not equally as practical and has a better range than the Audi. Thanks for bringing it up.
Hey, stop picking on the model X! It doesn't look anything like a computer mouse! It looks like a minivan! Actually, it IS a minivan & that's why they spent so much money to make the side doors non sliding. See the illusions that a super star CEO can pull off?
Such an honest, intelligent review. I think your concerns about price are spot on; this car is most usefully seen as a glimpse of where VWAG is headed with their more mainstream models - their primary problem will be bringing down costs.
Tesla laughing all the way to the bank..literally when Audi and Mercs make their products look “cheap”. I’m a target customer for these ( 45 years plus / upper income / badge snob ) but seriously I think it’s just too expensive. As a company director, sure I can buy and right off against tax 1 st year, but even so, it’s a still lot of cash. Better to buy small EV like i3 or Zoe “for the wife/ station run/ shopping “ and also get a normal SUV for messing about in and long family runs. Price is more of a piss take when you think it’s based on a MBQ or whatever platforms... as the cost of manufacturing is amortised over bigger production volume
part of the reason it's so expensive is because the quality control each car goes trough, its a much higher standard then the A1 was (audi belgium factory)
As a Tesla Model S #P100D driver, I can appreciate the beauty of the interior and the build quality that Audi have. It is expensive, not the most efficient or fastest car, but with solar and cheap rate electricity that's not so bad and the 0-60 in 2 seconds soons wears off 😜 Great video as always, keep 'en coming!!
As a hard of hearing subscriber thank you so much, this is one of the clearest and easiest to understand reports, even the auto captions were pretty good. Now if you could just send me £89k lol
"options" are just a sneaky way of manufacturers getting you to pay way more than you should for their product. the computer gaming industry is like that too, part of the standard rip-off culture.
It's easy, if you want 360 camera then pay for it, if not save the money. Thats what options are for. Better then have to pay for 50 options that i dont need.
@@Andi-ft5rt I think the way WLTP certification work is forcing less configurations on manufacturers so they put things in packages. Plus it also forces people to take it all.
Great video Jonny. If this had been released before the etron I think Audi would have received much higher praise than they got with the etron. This is the EV they should have opened with. Had it been around when I was shopping I’d definitely at least have taken it for a test drive. I don’t think I’d have bought one but it would have given me something to think about. But...... That price tag. Wow. Not sure if this is Audi attempting to limit demand because production is constrained but that’s a lot of money. The Jag’s not a cheap car so it takes some balls to go higher!
2.6 miles per KWh is really not okay. I know it's heavy but under 3.5 is poor. And when my Zoe - yes, much much lighter - gets a MINIMUM of 4.3 miles per KWh on THE MOTORWAY,... it puts this into perspective
Well, yes. It shows that a much smaller, much lighter, much less luxurious car with much less performance, a much smaller battery and much less tech on board - can be more efficient! But then, that's not what you're interested in if you want a big Audi, is it.....?!
How would you feel about this car now, three years on. The pricing is now sub 35k, which compared to some of the others available, albeit it newer, it still seems to be one of the better built and more refined options. The range is still poor, but if you're not driving 175+ miles every day like most aren't, then range isnt as much of an issue as people make out. I ask as you have obviously sampled so many different EVs over the years which isn't something that I have the pleasure of, so I am genuinely interested in how you'd rate it in 2024. Thanks
@@Hoktew electric cars don't power the motors while they are stationary. They are also more efficient at low speeds and you will get much more miles. You should get a Model Y though because it is 10 years ahead of this car.
@@Hoktew oddly enough, unlike a fossil fuels car, if you're stationary in traffic an EV will use virtually zero energy. If you're in very slow moving traffic an EV will only use a small amount of energy. However, drive flat out and they'll rise energy as fast as a V8.
Agree with all the comments that big SUVs, electric or not, are silly. Jonny is bang on though, when he says they aren’t trying to sell to us, they are selling to people who’d otherwise buy a big piston SUV, so even though it’s horrid I’m glad it exists.
Now looking at getting one of these used for about 25k with warranty. Looking to leave Tesla behind and love the idea of adjustable ride height, scraping batteries along the ground ain't pleasant.
I wish all cars had the side video mirrors! You're right the units on this car are bigger than they need to be. They reduce both the frontal area and the coefficient of drag.
Love the video, hate the car. I can't exactly say why, but that is how I feel. Everytime you quoted what Audi said I just thought how dumb they were. The front trunk is absolutely useless, barely enough to stick a bottle of washer fluid next to the cables (who the hell wants to open an extra plastic door under a bonnet with two latches). The car is covered in lines that are supposed to look like battery bars, you know, the thing you stare at if you have massive range anxiety. 55 means 95 and 50 means 71. The charging port is behind a stupidly overengineered door. The cameras on the sides are almost as big as mirrors anyway. It's a "coupe SUV", whatever the hell that is. Thankfully they gave it the perfect name. As long as you speak French.
Excellent review Jonny. TBH, it's the first Audi I've seen in years that interests me even slightly, especially the interior finish - and I think it's the first fastback SUV design that gets it right; BMWs X6 was ungainly and the Mercedes-Benz was a horrible looking thing. I would still go with an I-Pace over this due to the handling dynamics, and the fact it's a ground-up-design EV (plus the I-Pace is probably still the best-looking EV on the market - it's not just another lumbering SUV). I think that the e-Tron will be a 'gateway' SUV for the well-heeled, and while it's not the best EV in any real metric (other than cabin refinement), if it can bring a new demographic to EV usage, then bring it on!
Vlad Saghin the ID 4 has awful charging speed! Maybe also the similar skoda. both have too few sensors. AND I do not think that VW has the same incentives to build the cars to last really really long. This is how the model y and the model 3 are build since Tesla will earn money on their cars over time. Incentives rules this world. I would bet a lot of money on that Tesla’s will drive longer than all other EV’s on the market. Tesla is the ONLY one that can benefit for long lasting cars.
Vlad Saghin you are also neglecting total cost of ownership which is really the price you pay. In that regards I am sure the Tesla Model Y is even cheaper than the ID 4!
@@ChristianPryds right, the 50k USD long range electric suv Model Y is definitely cheaper in the long run than the 32k USD equally long range electric suv ID4. Keep telling yourself that lol
Nice and relaxed review mr. Smith =) . Little nitpick: there's lot of low frequency rumbling on the mic inside the car. You can consider filtering that out with a high-pass filter around 100hz.
BTW, you can now get low milage E-Tron 55 Launch Edition with all specs added for under £36k, low milages under 30k. I sold my EV6 and got one, its cheaper than the Kia with no deposit :) who needs 280 miles on the EV6, I get 220 with this car, some users its 250 in summer.
One additional argument for the Sportback silhouette could be dirt management. It didn't seem to have a rear wiper, which probably means it doesn't need one. A blessing in winter, especially in salt goop ridden parts of the world.
This car looks so much nicer than any tesla, i wud have this for the looks and interior rather than a tesla even if its a bit slower but 5.7 secs is hot hatch speeds anyway 😁
Funny, to me it just looks like another big grilled dumb 20th century car with boring typical styling. If you took off the badge would you know it was an Audi? Because it looks like tall Ford Taurus to me.
Haha funny you shud say that just checked an it does look like a ford taurus with stretched grill on it. Im in uk so had no idea what a taurus looks like but your right enough 👍😂
I drove one of these today (I'm in the States) so I could compare it to the I-Pace I drove a week ago. It had nicer wheels than the one in the video, and regular door mirrors, but was otherwise the same. Here are my impressions: The looks are similarly handsome, very hard to choose between the two. I like the sportback better than the standard E-tron, but I think the Jag looks better than both Audis. That's subjective. The back seat may be objectively bigger in the Audi, but it doesn't feel like it. The Jag has a glass panel that goes all the way back to the rear seat, making the whole space, front to rear, feel airy and light. The Audi feels claustrophobic by comparison, and the rear seat HVAC is better in the Jag, as well (the vents are on the side pillars, which circulates air better than center console vents). Both have fantastically comfortable seats with excellent controls, front and rear. The Audi is slightly more comfortable and easy to adjust, while the Jag has much better heating/cooling function. The tech in the Audi is better. Both have excellent nav systems, but the way you can put the Audi's navigation map into the instrument cluster and expand its size is great. The Jag I drove had a HUD, which I prefer, but the Audi can, apparently, be spec'd with one, too. Both have very responsive screens with easy to use layout. The Audi camera system beats the Jag. Both cars have Apple CarPlay/Android Auto, but the Audi system uses bluetooth whereas the Jag requires a cord. If you care only about tech, the Audi is probably for you. The cargo area is a bit bigger in the Audi, but if cargo space is your concern you should get the regular E-tron instead of the sportback. Now the important part: driving characteristics. Both cars have air suspension with adjustable ride height. The ride in the Audi is definitely a little more refined than the Jag; It's floaty and soft pretty much all the time, regardless of drive mode. I didn't like that... I drove the sportback because I thought it was supposed to be sporty. Conversely, the Jag is soft and comfy in comfort mode but definitely more poised and firm when I hustled it around the back roads in dynamic mode. The Jag is also quicker (0-60 in 4.4 seconds vs. 5.7 seconds) and lighter. In the Audi you feel the excess weight. Especially in dynamic mode when you're trying to take a curve just a hair too fast and wind up in a pucker moment. In the Jag, you can turn creep on or off, depending on whether you prefer it to inch forward at a stoplight or stay put until the go pedal is pressed. You can also set the regenerative braking to a higher setting if you want to do more "one-pedal driving" (the Audi doesn't have multiple regen settings). Now I have to discuss the Audi's brakes. They're not finished. Initial press of the pedal, if you're soft as a feather, will give you smooth, linear brake feel. But any more than the lightest touch often results in a disconcerting clunk and weird sensation that the car might not stop. Since the regen and the mechanical brakes both work in tandem only when the brake pedal is pressed, it feels like the car can't figure out the proportion of each one to apply right away. Similarly, when coming to a full stop, sometimes it's smooth, but often it's a hard jerk, leaving you wondering what you did to anger it. Audi has work to do on this system to make sure drivers can be confident that the car will actually stop. By contrast, the Jaguar's brakes are perfect. Now the pricing. Both had MSRP around $85k. Both qualify for the $7500 federal tax credit. Audi is selling a sufficient amount of 2020 models but will still offer a few thousand dollars off. Jaguar has had trouble moving I-paces, likely because of a lack of advertising, so you can get a hefty $12-15k discount right now. Overall, it comes down to what you're looking for in a sporty SUV: the Audi is comfier with better tech, good for families (if Audi figures out the brakes). The Jag is smaller but drives much better. Personally, I prefer the Jaguar.
@@TheLateBrakeShow Thanks, man! I was considering ordering one, but I actually got a better deal. The dealer has an unsold 2019 I-pace on the lot which they can't lease and really need to offload, so I'm buying that one. MSRP is $85,600 but im getting it for about $57k. That should take care of the first two years' worth of depreciation. And I really do like it a lot more than the Audi or Tesla Model Y. I just hope I won't regret it in two months when I have the chance to test drive the Ford Mustang Mach-E. Dealerships here in the States are going to start getting them to use as loaner cars in late October / early November, but the pre-orders, like the Bronco, sold out in about 15 minutes. Quick question: when you drove the Audi E-tron did you notice the braking inconsistencies I mentioned? I'd hate to be giving people advice if that was a condition exhibited by just the car I drove.
Whilst I quite like the look of this, and it's interior is lovely, relatively speaking it makes the Jaguar I-Pace look like a bargain, and that car looks stunning. Your alternative two car purchase is tempting too though! Love the t-shirt btw👍.
@@TheLateBrakeShow I looked at both cars and opened the trunk and the polestar was considerably smaller. The etron is more like a lifted Audi a7, which is a big car.
@@TheLateBrakeShow For that you need to look for Bjorn Nyland banana box test. It seems that Kia Soul can fit the same amount of banana boxes as e-tron.
I think a good conclusion here is if money is not a main criteria in picking your vehicle, and performance just has to be good enough, but rather style and comfort combined is a focus, then this is a candidate. I'm not one of those people, but i do understand who they are targeting. Also, the aero combined with the heavy body and noise proofing are all indicators that the autobahn is a primary place for this vehicle, not so much bendy narrow backroads or dense city center traffic.
mate I cant be bothered with EVs especially SUVs but I´ll watch any of your videos for the great content anyway. I hope you´ll have a million subscribers soon.
@@TheLateBrakeShow Also I am very impressed by your dedication to this channel and engagement with the comments. So much so, that I actually just became a Patron. :)
In terms of power and range, it's a Polestar 2 competitor. But the Polestar is nearly 2 seconds quicker to 62mph and nearly half the price. You're right - the e-tron Sportback is not great value. Great review. As ever.
great review Jonny, agree with you, sporty looking well ok, it is tough to beat the interiors they are always well done for comfort/materials, the cost well I am here in Canada where the federal Gov't has done little to nothing to promote EV's or a coast to coast charging network, and for the dealers here to sell whatever brand of EV there is a heck of a waiting list and the dealers all mark up the price on them and just say well too bad, 2 friends went to buy EV's one a Tesla model 3 long range and the other a Kona EV with the i think it was 78 kilowatt battery pack , they both expected they'd have to pay the window sticker price and rudely surprised they'd have to add about 5k to the Tesla and 10k for the Kona EV , which made the Kona more than the Tesla we are just getting held for ransom on EV pricing here in Manitoba, it could just be the dealers here, I would just like to buy the Honda -E myself and don't need anymore than that , plus its just a cool car in its own right and is RWD , my preference and my round trip to work daily is only 80 kms, so this is fine, Honda Canada says they will go on sale in Canada in 2024, wow just over 3 years from now, by then they will have a longer range battery as standard for me again they forecast 10-12 %, the crazy part again it could start at $46000 CDN or 26000 sterling that is still a big lump to swallow, I use to work for Volvo Canada some almost 30 yrs back and have been offered some nice incentives on pricing on a Polestar 2, they are working to get them out in the market, mine would be RWD model don't need AWD, not necessary for me i know how to drive in winter, and the discount was quite attractive to me, and love Volvos been driving them 40 yrs now, best car,
Great review as ever but I do wonder why compare just EVs to each other? Yes, some people are just looking at buying an EV first and foremost but surely it’s now got to the point where people will be cross shopping between EVs and ICE cars. You might want an iPace or a Polestar 2 but need space for camping trips and kids’ bikes so suddenly that 600L boot on this Audi is all important and that’s why the E-trons and the Tesla X remain in a fairly unpopulated niche. Happily the VW ID4 and enyaq are going to fill out the market at relatively affordable levels soon.
I watched this straight after EVM's eVito review. The van comes out lighter and with better efficiency. That Audi sound proofing is seriously heavy stuff!
You didn't go back to the mirrors and never said why you disliked them? I don't get why they shaped the screens like mirrors. Surely with cameras you can have a lens with a wider view and can show more if rectangular screens were used, covering the blind spot plus more than what you could probably cover with a physical mirror. So potential safety benefits. I can also imagine in the future these kind of camera mirrors being tricked out with safety overlays and night time image enhancements etc.
those cameras are super expensive and incredibly hard to use since they are in an awkward spot, thats probably why he doesn't like them, you don't see many etrons with this feature for a reason (i work at the audi belgium factory where the etron is made so i know what options get taken a lot and wich ones not)
The e-tron does feel very special in a way the Model X does not, and that feels worthwhile. I think that range won't be a problem as it's still quite high.
Hey Jonny nice to see you again. E-Tron Quattro and Sportback is too expensive. I wait to see you checking out the Q4 e-tron, ID.4, Skoda Enyaq, Nissan Ariya
Nobody pays list price for an Audi. You can get a brand new E-Tron for £53k on Autotrader. I'm not saying that's cheap, but it's £7k under list price. I've got a 50 Technik on a lease, and it's a great car for my needs. I'm paying pretty much nothing for fuel, so it works out cheaper to run than my previous very sensible petrol Volvo estate.
if you think that thing is quiet try the mercedes eqc it is basically built for 0 sound with soudn proofing in the wheelwells and stuff they have it in the museum somewhere showing how much effort they have put into making it soundproof.
That car is hundreds of kilos heavier than my campervan. Which is 4-wheel drive, has front and rear difflocks, 165hp, a bed, cooker, heater.. Plus I don't feel physically ill looking at it due to the dreadful design.
I'm not looking for an 80K electric SUV ... don't like SUVs and don't have 80K burning a hole ... but I was rivetted, one of the best, most perceptive and enjoyable car reviews I've ever seen.
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When you see that in some countries an e-Tron costs in business leasing not much more than an ID.3/ID.4; less than a Tesla M3 SR+, perhaps you will take an SUV even you do not really like the concept.
Finally someone who isn't into SUVs. I think this is the most authentic review channel I've seen so far. Thank you for the great content!
Thank YOU for watching. SUVs I struggle with on the basis that they don't really do anything better than a sorted estate car. They are heavier, less efficient, cost more to run, harder on brakes and tyres, and nobody really goes offroading in them. Increasingly, you also look like a clueless dinosaur driving them.
@@TheLateBrakeShow yep, they are just a pimped up hatchback at the end of the day
Ok for towing caravans but I'm the same not really better than an estate , although some bloke took one round combe a seat Alhambra 1.8 t rear wheel was a foot in the air round the chicane .
SUVs continue to dominate North American auto market. So ironic 😂
@@TheLateBrakeShow wanted to reply to the original comment, but you said it all already, suvs are ugly, worse, estates
How do you review a car virtually none of your audience can afford without offending us? By sharing your excitement and incredulity, tempered by insight and humour, that's how. Good review mate.
I agree with the second part.
Don't agree with the "virtually none of your audience".
'Virtually none' was a rhetorical device, but costing around three times the median annual salary of a full-time UK worker places it far beyond the means of the vast majority of us, so I think the thrust of my comment is sound. Happy for you if you have such means at your disposal, but take a look at the Polestar first brother.
Very few, of course, because we have already self-selected out of the content by clicking away, to the detriment of the channel. I thought Jonny had skilfully managed to keep a broad range of viewers engaged and entertained reviewing a highly aspirational product, in a medium with a notoriously short attention span. And that is a real skill well worth celebrating and encouraging.
Leon Baradino - Speak for yourself. I’m looking at all these E-Tron reviews b/c this is a serious contender for my next car. Drove one for a week while my A6 was in the shop. Wasn’t the sports back version, but nevertheless absolutely LOVED the car.
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"Tesla Model X looks like a computer mouse” made me snort. So very true.
It was so funny the way he said it nonchalantly
Ok but it’s a 5 year old car which still out performs this Audi😂😂😂😂
Younes Layachi jjjy
@@mentalframer
1: 5 years isn't that long in the car world
2: it doesn't make it look any less like a computer mouse
Völundr Frey 5 yrs isn’t long and yet, almost every manufacturer comes out with a new version of the same model every year...
I have the SB55 , and I love it ! Luckily here in Norway we have tons of charging stations so range is never an issue . Love the car and the luxury and the drive comfort is second to none. I previously had a Tesla X
Is this more comparable to Tesla X or Y?
@@almac9203 X for sure
The e tron ( both sportsback and normal ) are 4.9m long so they are big cars
How did you feel the change from Tesla to Audi? I can imagine way better quality in this one.
@@FlorinArjocu I can say for me personally everything is an upgrade in the Audi , except the app and the range . When it comes to range , I hardly never drive more than 400 km in one go. In Norway we have tons of chargers all over and at home I have a wall mounted charger , so range is a non issue . The app, yeah well the Audi app is pretty bad, but it keeps getting better, but the car. Wow the car is such a great piece of engineering. Drives great, it's so silent and it feels really luxurious. Its also a head turner , as the Tesla is something you see everywhere , the sportsback is quite new and tons of people come over to ask what car it is . We are quite lucky here in Norway as we get a lot of government grants to buy electric , so the price isn't as bad as it is in the UK ( and we normally have very expensive cars here in Norway )
@@Plex86 Sorry for bugging you. I have a curiosity: many Tesla fans use the acceleration argument, that thr cars are the fastest (or so) in the world. Was that a factor? In my mind, for a family car I want confort, could not give a damn for getting to 100 kmps in 5 seconds compared to 8 seconds. Do you feel this is important? Thanks.
It’s no Matra Rancho, that’s for sure
Loved the Rancho.... amazing what Matra did with the bog standard Alpine 1442cc engine and running gear... I had a Bagheera and the later Murena.. cool looking cars if very underpowered 🤨
Oh boy it's been a while hasn't it.
You may have a strange mind but your 2 car garage makes a lot more sense and gets my vote.
There is a non coupe E-Tron parked across from my house right now, looks amazing,
Polestar and Honda E (plus some options) sounds like a much better package!
Matt Keenan Polestar made in Chai-nah.
@@shiraz1736
Tesla 3 and VW ID4 as well.
So what?
U cannot reslly compare this to the e
Polestar 2 is pretty useless or longer drives. 11h45 for 1000 km, an hour slower than the medium battery VW ID.3 that's multiple classes more affordable. Full hour slower over a base Model S that weighs the same but has a much large battery and cargo space.
@notformebeaky Um don't want to buy from any of the above mentioned actually.
What I love about Johnny's reviews are that it is like sitting in the car with your knowledgeable mate giving you the lowdown on his latest motor. Great work. Like the etron, but, evs generally are buying their way out of inefficient design with ever more powerful batteries - and that is a worrying trend
Spooowwwwwtahhhback
Love the SU shirt! I'm more a Weber / Dell'Orto guy but respect for an iconic carb. Wonder how many viewers will get the irony.
Exactly 2 of us so far : ~)
Irony? Signed Amal Stromberg!
I always wondered,when filing up the twin SU's on my rover SD1,if the viscosity of the oil I used would actually make a noticeable difference.(and,were does the oil go? As it used to need weekly top ups)
@@RussEdgar445y7tlfj
Wish you had written this so I could see it back in 1986😉
I just loved my Audi A5. One of the most beautiful cars and such a joy to ride. If they could make an EV out of it. It would be perfect.
The A5 is one of the only Audi's in recent years I've lusted over. Especially the older ones. Look amazing.
Any plans about reviewing the Skoda Enyaq?
Yuck.
e-Tron is the best selling car in Norway 2020.
It just means people are too rich in Norway :)
How many times do you have to drive around the world until the savings from less drag make up for the £1500 rear cameras option?
I think the reason for getting that option would be more to maximize the abysmal range rather than saving money
Lol
@@travisopperud8738 Good point
@@travisopperud8738 it is not abysmal. Some manufacturers are just more honest than others.
EVPaddy your information is wrong, assuming you’re jabbing tesla. I regularly get my rated range or better on my sr+ model 3.
Another outstanding review, Jonny. A stunningly beautiful car, but I'm inclined to go for a Polestar 2.
John Cutler if you do get a Polestar you’d be the coolest kid on the block.
@ John Cutler. Why not a Tesla then ? I’m not a big fan of Teslas myself but just wondering
@@gbej1 I initially fell in love with Tesla, but feel the build quality is not the same as well established cars, such as Audi or Polestar. (Volvo.) That's just my own opinion and I might be wrong. I had a test drive in a top of the range model S and it blew my mind away. What Tesla have achieved is phenomenal, but other car manufacturers are catching up, most with better quality and a far more superior reputation. I feel Polestar are very different and I like different. Everyone will choose Audi's, Tesla's, Jaguars, etc. It's just my personal taste. But, just to contradict myself, an Audi with a combustion engine, such as an RS5 will twist my arm. And that probably doesn't answer your question. 🤪
John Cutler. What puts me off Teslas....at least for now, is the plethora of obviously sponsored Tesla reviews all over the place who will eulogies over Teslas as if their lives depended on it. What really gets me with the model 3 is people trying to convince everyone that substituting practically every car function with one giant touch screen is some technological revolution, rather than calling it what it is which is cost cutting.
@@jeffharrison6059 no one is perfect. 😬
I just want a stationwagon EV. My e-Golf is great, but it could be better. These Audis are great machines, but so energy hungry its nuts
Thanas Stefanis V I’m not sure if it will do it for you but there is an MG station wagon coming out soon.
I think Volvo missed a trick not making the Polestar 2 a wagon/estate car.
@@adrianchell that is because the Polestar 2 is not made by Volvo. It is made by Polestar... I guarantee eventually Volvo will come out with a V60 EV.
@@Cheetahcubb About the only brand differentiator between the two is the badge, though. The seats, grille shape, headlights, touchscreen for the infotainment, steering wheel and a lot of other parts are straight from Volvo, and one of the V60 PHEV trim levels is "Polestar Engineered", so they're only separate on paper. You're probably right that Volvo will do a BEV estate, though, I just felt that, had the Polestar adopted the shape, they'd see higher sales through being first to market.
I'm waiting to see what Skoda do when they get interesting with the MEB platform - the Enya can sail away because it's just more bloody SUV dross.
Tesla model X looks like a computer mouse ! That’s what he said : - )
😆. He also said the BMW X6 was hideous. Jonny, you’re so right. Those sport back BMW things are both hideous & pointless.
@notformebeaky Are you crazy to tell that ? Tesla fan boys think they buy Tesla cars... In fact they are computers on wheels :)
@notformebeaky It may not be to your taste but its a 5 year old model that blows this Audi outta the water
@notformebeaky Look fool. You cant afford a MX and probably havent even sat in one. But, as an owner, I can tell u, this POS Audi cant compare. No matter what your silly little brain thinks. BTW, the best looking SUV with the optional 22 inch turbine wheels and suspenssion set to low. Black on black. Looks as good as any other SUV on the road. But how would you know fool? I bet u drive a VW Polo so what do u know? SMH.
@notformebeaky WTF r u saying fool. Like I said u drive a VW Polo so wtf do u know about the cars that cost 5 years worth your salary? First, sit in a Model X, then drive, and then u can have your stupid opinion. Otherwise, dont be spewing bs online.
Great video you and haeries garage are the only blokes I watch for car reviews on UA-cam .
What about "Fully Charged" youtube channel?
@@Mr_Battlefield yeah sometimes but I really like older stuff, but good shout.
the sped up bit is the best!!!!))))
My Q3 is paid up now my dealer called to talk about what I'm getting next. They loaned me the 55 e-tron for a weekend when it was launched and he knows I want an EV next, I made that clear 5 years ago when I bought this Euro6 diesel. They only have the two 'trons at the moment and they're way over budget. MEB based Q4 is on the way but 2nd quarter next year? maybe?
He's asked me in to all about optimum trade-in and to see what they can do. I will go listen to what they offer and I'll be dead straight. I love the Audi, the build quality and the cabins. I've been the factory and suppliers here in Belgium for work, They're a technical masterpiece and extremely well engineered. Their pricing though, swings right out the pan. A new Q3, similar spec to mine is over €60k with all the options. for that money I've got a Tesla or Polestar and leaning slightly towards the Polestar because everyone has a Tesla, a bit like everyone has an Audi.
Or you can get a Tesla 3 for almost *HALF* of that and call it a day 😂
The word 'etron' means 'turd' or 'excrement' in French. 😂
"Molded excrement" apparently.
e-tron = electron 🙄
@ana lord Merde is 'shit' and is commonly used as a swear word, like we use 'Shit'. 'Étron' is turd, as in what you, dogs and cats produce, not the sloppy piles cows and horses produce.
@@Musketeer009 so what will the car dealer in France name the car ?
I really hate when names are changed for different markets
I am French and e-tron does not mean that. Actually, does not mean anything particular in French. It is called e-tron in France.
88k Option 4 buy 8 zero FXS and park one at every charge station along the A1 for a super quick north to south tour!
I drive the Sportback and absolutely love the car. Smooth, quiet, luxurious. And fits my road bike perfect. Bought the Tesla charging stations adaptor and now traveling is even better.
As always, I love your reviews! Really informative, enjoyable and relaxing. Thank you for your awesome work!
I hope Audi make a 2 door convertible E-tron. That would really get me interested.
Just looking at the E-Tron GT concept and I'm nursing a semi. The Q4 E-Tron is coming soon too.
You're insane.
@@Zero_Ninety no, I'm in bed
I'm getting my etron sport back next week (can't wait) - I'm getting it on an NHS lease. There's a lot of chat about the massive cost. The funny thing for me has been, the monthly lease cost for this car was significantly less than a tesla x and a little less than the ipace, polestar and merc EQC despite the varying costs of all those cars....
Hi Tom, I was thinking of doing the same. Is it possible to know how the car is. What real life range are you getting please? did you go for the 7kw home charger also?is the payments under 400 monthly? are you happy with the car?
@@febinneo hi - yeah, loving the car. Its big, quiet and comfy but it can shift when it needs too - it's a lovely place to be, it's all very intuitive once you settle I to it.
Came out for me at £420 a month on 20,000 miles a year - includes insurance, maintenance, tyres (bear in mind they a £370 rrp a go! ), break down. But I get my full travel expenses with work and electric is working out about half the cost of diesel. (my normal monthly fuel spend was £200 per month or a tank a week ish - last 2 weeks of charging has come out at about £40 electric).
I'm. Getting between 2.2 and 2.8kw/mi depending on traffic and how I drive - it says in manual give it 3k miles to settle in though before I pass judgement on efficency. Its thirsty vs other EVs but still cheaper than diesel. Haven't done a full range trial yet but it looks like 180- 200 miles with careful driving is achievable. It charges stupidly fast on a high power charger.
Yep I got a 7kw pod point - charges up without a fuss reliably. 30% charge takes a mere 4 hours so even a full chargecan be done over night.
I slowed down the bit about the new lights and I gotta say I’m super excited about that
Are you? Good!
The idea is great. But also it's another thing that's totally over-engineered and can easily fail. And what happens when the camera is obstructed by a dead bug?
@@mbirth how would a bug die on the back side of a mirror (camera)? Do you drive backwards allot at top speed in reverse?
Do you hear yourself think before you type?
@@Mr_Battlefield I was talking about the front camera which assesses where to shine the light and what areas to black out.
Markus Birth the lights are good, you essentially are always on high beam and the individual leds turn on and off to avoid blinding other road users. It’s so fascinating driving as a passenger and watching it light up areas and darken others
Jonny it's your humour and charm that makes this channel stand out.
Many thanks sir.
This is the way a car review should be, good, polite and professional literature, unlike Carwow which is in a childish grammar or Top Gear which looks like a stupid comedy from 3 stooges..
I like both, personally. Carwow is completely taking the piss at this point, but I also enjoy that.
If I were buying an EV now, I’d probably be looking at the Soul. Yes it doesn’t have the brand power of the bigger names, it’s a bit boxy to look at but it’s practical. I really like the Polestar 2 but given the marques origin, I’d want an estate! And both would allow a naughty piston car for weekend fun 😁
I was just going to mention the polestar 2 and came to the same conclusion. It needs to be an estate!
Yer see what the new Skoda Fares up can’t wait for the review
Slow the playback to 50% when he starts arguing with himself about the headlights to understand what he’s saying. It doesn’t fix the pitch shift, though.
In the USA the Feds give you a $7500 and Colorado gives you $4000 and the dealer cuts the pice between $5000 to $9000 off the MSRP. Taking that into account it is a fantastic deal. I have two Etron’s.
The higher the price the bigger depreciation, does it have a 7-year warranty?
Absolutely, I would get the Polestar over this any day of the week. It’s almost as stylish, way cooler, far less expensive, almost if not equally as practical and has a better range than the Audi. Thanks for bringing it up.
Hey, stop picking on the model X! It doesn't look anything like a computer mouse! It looks like a minivan! Actually, it IS a minivan & that's why they spent so much money to make the side doors non sliding. See the illusions that a super star CEO can pull off?
Model X looks like a love child between Ssang Song and a DeLorean !
You are right, my computer mouse looks like a model X obv the Tesla came first
Audi e-Tron55 Quatro Sportback is a dream to drive.
Silly money great review mate thanks
Such an honest, intelligent review. I think your concerns about price are spot on; this car is most usefully seen as a glimpse of where VWAG is headed with their more mainstream models - their primary problem will be bringing down costs.
Tesla laughing all the way to the bank..literally when Audi and Mercs make their products look “cheap”. I’m a target customer for these ( 45 years plus / upper income / badge snob ) but seriously I think it’s just too expensive. As a company director, sure I can buy and right off against tax 1 st year, but even so, it’s a still lot of cash. Better to buy small EV like i3 or Zoe “for the wife/ station run/ shopping “ and also get a normal SUV for messing about in and long family runs. Price is more of a piss take when you think it’s based on a MBQ or whatever platforms... as the cost of manufacturing is amortised over bigger production volume
I3 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is great and I know Audi is a premium manufacturer but prices need to come down. Looking forward to the Q4 E-Tron.
part of the reason it's so expensive is because the quality control each car goes trough, its a much higher standard then the A1 was (audi belgium factory)
I'm always excited when Jonny posts a new EV review!
Is this a SPORTAAH
Good review of an interesting car. Glad you mentioned your hate of the SUV a few times less than the DBX video. 😉
As a Tesla Model S #P100D driver, I can appreciate the beauty of the interior and the build quality that Audi have. It is expensive, not the most efficient or fastest car, but with solar and cheap rate electricity that's not so bad and the 0-60 in 2 seconds soons wears off 😜 Great video as always, keep 'en coming!!
As a hard of hearing subscriber thank you so much, this is one of the clearest and easiest to understand reports, even the auto captions were pretty good. Now if you could just send me £89k lol
"options" are just a sneaky way of manufacturers getting you to pay way more than you should for their product. the computer gaming industry is like that too, part of the standard rip-off culture.
You're right. I think it is a conspiracy of the car industry...
it's the day 1, paid DLC of the car world 🤣
Options are the big margin items.
It's easy, if you want 360 camera then pay for it, if not save the money. Thats what options are for. Better then have to pay for 50 options that i dont need.
@@Andi-ft5rt I think the way WLTP certification work is forcing less configurations on manufacturers so they put things in packages. Plus it also forces people to take it all.
Great video Jonny. If this had been released before the etron I think Audi would have received much higher praise than they got with the etron. This is the EV they should have opened with. Had it been around when I was shopping I’d definitely at least have taken it for a test drive. I don’t think I’d have bought one but it would have given me something to think about. But...... That price tag. Wow. Not sure if this is Audi attempting to limit demand because production is constrained but that’s a lot of money. The Jag’s not a cheap car so it takes some balls to go higher!
2.6 miles per KWh is really not okay. I know it's heavy but under 3.5 is poor. And when my Zoe - yes, much much lighter - gets a MINIMUM of 4.3 miles per KWh on THE MOTORWAY,... it puts this into perspective
Well, yes.
It shows that a much smaller, much lighter, much less luxurious car with much less performance, a much smaller battery and much less tech on board - can be more efficient!
But then, that's not what you're interested in if you want a big Audi, is it.....?!
@@andymccabe6712 this is one of worst efficiency ev, well off Tesla s and X. Just not good enough.
How would you feel about this car now, three years on. The pricing is now sub 35k, which compared to some of the others available, albeit it newer, it still seems to be one of the better built and more refined options. The range is still poor, but if you're not driving 175+ miles every day like most aren't, then range isnt as much of an issue as people make out.
I ask as you have obviously sampled so many different EVs over the years which isn't something that I have the pleasure of, so I am genuinely interested in how you'd rate it in 2024. Thanks
240 mile range with led lights
I'll have 0 please.
240 miles.. But what if im stuck in traffic 2 and 4 hours a day.. Hows my batt then?
@@Hoktew electric cars don't power the motors while they are stationary. They are also more efficient at low speeds and you will get much more miles. You should get a Model Y though because it is 10 years ahead of this car.
@@Hoktew oddly enough, unlike a fossil fuels car, if you're stationary in traffic an EV will use virtually zero energy. If you're in very slow moving traffic an EV will only use a small amount of energy.
However, drive flat out and they'll rise energy as fast as a V8.
Sounds like Volkswagen got desperate on that one. They don't have the technology, but feel pressure from EV market and Angela Merkel lol
Agree with all the comments that big SUVs, electric or not, are silly. Jonny is bang on though, when he says they aren’t trying to sell to us, they are selling to people who’d otherwise buy a big piston SUV, so even though it’s horrid I’m glad it exists.
"Don't go and look up what e-tron means in French because it might be rude."
Me: 'Hello google, old friend." haha.
Top stuff as always, Jonny!
Oh man....who needs this car? I don´t know.....maybe some dude to show how cool and environmentally friendly he is....
Now looking at getting one of these used for about 25k with warranty. Looking to leave Tesla behind and love the idea of adjustable ride height, scraping batteries along the ground ain't pleasant.
Who else instantly hit pause at 0:35 and searched "translate etron" on Google :D
Turd
Not me
@@Luckyjo21 I mean, if Toyota can sell TRD models, Audi can sell etrons, right?
Didn’t Toyota have the same issue in France with the MR2?
I wish all cars had the side video mirrors! You're right the units on this car are bigger than they need to be. They reduce both the frontal area and the coefficient of drag.
Love the video, hate the car. I can't exactly say why, but that is how I feel.
Everytime you quoted what Audi said I just thought how dumb they were. The front trunk is absolutely useless, barely enough to stick a bottle of washer fluid next to the cables (who the hell wants to open an extra plastic door under a bonnet with two latches). The car is covered in lines that are supposed to look like battery bars, you know, the thing you stare at if you have massive range anxiety.
55 means 95 and 50 means 71. The charging port is behind a stupidly overengineered door. The cameras on the sides are almost as big as mirrors anyway. It's a "coupe SUV", whatever the hell that is.
Thankfully they gave it the perfect name. As long as you speak French.
I hate those coupé SUV. They seem like the hellish child of two things that should not have met.
Excellent review Jonny.
TBH, it's the first Audi I've seen in years that interests me even slightly, especially the interior finish - and I think it's the first fastback SUV design that gets it right; BMWs X6 was ungainly and the Mercedes-Benz was a horrible looking thing.
I would still go with an I-Pace over this due to the handling dynamics, and the fact it's a ground-up-design EV (plus the I-Pace is probably still the best-looking EV on the market - it's not just another lumbering SUV).
I think that the e-Tron will be a 'gateway' SUV for the well-heeled, and while it's not the best EV in any real metric (other than cabin refinement), if it can bring a new demographic to EV usage, then bring it on!
Polestar 2 + Honda E over this any day!
Model y is much better value
@@ChristianPryds Skoda Enyaq* is a much better value. Heck it's even cheaper than the ID3 and you get a high quality spacious CUV for the price
Vlad Saghin the ID 4 has awful charging speed! Maybe also the similar skoda. both have too few sensors. AND I do not think that VW has the same incentives to build the cars to last really really long. This is how the model y and the model 3 are build since Tesla will earn money on their cars over time. Incentives rules this world. I would bet a lot of money on that Tesla’s will drive longer than all other EV’s on the market. Tesla is the ONLY one that can benefit for long lasting cars.
Vlad Saghin you are also neglecting total cost of ownership which is really the price you pay. In that regards I am sure the Tesla Model Y is even cheaper than the ID 4!
@@ChristianPryds right, the 50k USD long range electric suv Model Y is definitely cheaper in the long run than the 32k USD equally long range electric suv ID4. Keep telling yourself that lol
Nice and relaxed review mr. Smith =) . Little nitpick: there's lot of low frequency rumbling on the mic inside the car. You can consider filtering that out with a high-pass filter around 100hz.
Stopped watching at 89grand.....🙄
Seriously....Tesla Cybertruck Tri-Motor 💪🏻🤓😎🤓😎🤓😎👍🏻
All the people benefit from your viewpoint sir.
0:33 Instantly looks up etron in french.....What is Audi thinking :)
BTW, you can now get low milage E-Tron 55 Launch Edition with all specs added for under £36k, low milages under 30k. I sold my EV6 and got one, its cheaper than the Kia with no deposit :) who needs 280 miles on the EV6, I get 220 with this car, some users its 250 in summer.
One additional argument for the Sportback silhouette could be dirt management. It didn't seem to have a rear wiper, which probably means it doesn't need one. A blessing in winter, especially in salt goop ridden parts of the world.
Actually you can understand the matrix lights rant if you reduce the video speed at 0.5x, and it keeps the funny Smurfs voice 😂
Best review I’ve seen on this & conclusion was spot on.
Your reviews are amazing. Loved this one.
This car looks so much nicer than any tesla, i wud have this for the looks and interior rather than a tesla even if its a bit slower but 5.7 secs is hot hatch speeds anyway 😁
Funny, to me it just looks like another big grilled dumb 20th century car with boring typical styling. If you took off the badge would you know it was an Audi? Because it looks like tall Ford Taurus to me.
Haha funny you shud say that just checked an it does look like a ford taurus with stretched grill on it. Im in uk so had no idea what a taurus looks like but your right enough 👍😂
Another top notch no nonsense review from a top notch no nonsense guy.
Finally a good non biased ev review
I drove one of these today (I'm in the States) so I could compare it to the I-Pace I drove a week ago. It had nicer wheels than the one in the video, and regular door mirrors, but was otherwise the same. Here are my impressions:
The looks are similarly handsome, very hard to choose between the two. I like the sportback better than the standard E-tron, but I think the Jag looks better than both Audis. That's subjective.
The back seat may be objectively bigger in the Audi, but it doesn't feel like it. The Jag has a glass panel that goes all the way back to the rear seat, making the whole space, front to rear, feel airy and light. The Audi feels claustrophobic by comparison, and the rear seat HVAC is better in the Jag, as well (the vents are on the side pillars, which circulates air better than center console vents).
Both have fantastically comfortable seats with excellent controls, front and rear. The Audi is slightly more comfortable and easy to adjust, while the Jag has much better heating/cooling function.
The tech in the Audi is better. Both have excellent nav systems, but the way you can put the Audi's navigation map into the instrument cluster and expand its size is great. The Jag I drove had a HUD, which I prefer, but the Audi can, apparently, be spec'd with one, too. Both have very responsive screens with easy to use layout. The Audi camera system beats the Jag. Both cars have Apple CarPlay/Android Auto, but the Audi system uses bluetooth whereas the Jag requires a cord. If you care only about tech, the Audi is probably for you.
The cargo area is a bit bigger in the Audi, but if cargo space is your concern you should get the regular E-tron instead of the sportback.
Now the important part: driving characteristics.
Both cars have air suspension with adjustable ride height. The ride in the Audi is definitely a little more refined than the Jag; It's floaty and soft pretty much all the time, regardless of drive mode. I didn't like that... I drove the sportback because I thought it was supposed to be sporty. Conversely, the Jag is soft and comfy in comfort mode but definitely more poised and firm when I hustled it around the back roads in dynamic mode. The Jag is also quicker (0-60 in 4.4 seconds vs. 5.7 seconds) and lighter. In the Audi you feel the excess weight. Especially in dynamic mode when you're trying to take a curve just a hair too fast and wind up in a pucker moment. In the Jag, you can turn creep on or off, depending on whether you prefer it to inch forward at a stoplight or stay put until the go pedal is pressed. You can also set the regenerative braking to a higher setting if you want to do more "one-pedal driving" (the Audi doesn't have multiple regen settings).
Now I have to discuss the Audi's brakes. They're not finished. Initial press of the pedal, if you're soft as a feather, will give you smooth, linear brake feel. But any more than the lightest touch often results in a disconcerting clunk and weird sensation that the car might not stop. Since the regen and the mechanical brakes both work in tandem only when the brake pedal is pressed, it feels like the car can't figure out the proportion of each one to apply right away. Similarly, when coming to a full stop, sometimes it's smooth, but often it's a hard jerk, leaving you wondering what you did to anger it. Audi has work to do on this system to make sure drivers can be confident that the car will actually stop. By contrast, the Jaguar's brakes are perfect.
Now the pricing. Both had MSRP around $85k. Both qualify for the $7500 federal tax credit. Audi is selling a sufficient amount of 2020 models but will still offer a few thousand dollars off. Jaguar has had trouble moving I-paces, likely because of a lack of advertising, so you can get a hefty $12-15k discount right now.
Overall, it comes down to what you're looking for in a sporty SUV: the Audi is comfier with better tech, good for families (if Audi figures out the brakes). The Jag is smaller but drives much better. Personally, I prefer the Jaguar.
Amazing analysis, thank you. Please tell me you are ordering an IPace.
@@TheLateBrakeShow Thanks, man! I was considering ordering one, but I actually got a better deal. The dealer has an unsold 2019 I-pace on the lot which they can't lease and really need to offload, so I'm buying that one. MSRP is $85,600 but im getting it for about $57k. That should take care of the first two years' worth of depreciation. And I really do like it a lot more than the Audi or Tesla Model Y.
I just hope I won't regret it in two months when I have the chance to test drive the Ford Mustang Mach-E. Dealerships here in the States are going to start getting them to use as loaner cars in late October / early November, but the pre-orders, like the Bronco, sold out in about 15 minutes.
Quick question: when you drove the Audi E-tron did you notice the braking inconsistencies I mentioned? I'd hate to be giving people advice if that was a condition exhibited by just the car I drove.
The i-pace is nice, but I bought an e-tron SUV. For me it's a better car. The i-pace gives me a claustrophobic feel.
@@Kalepsis Don't buy a 2019 i-pace. Charging is slooooowww!
@@Kalepsis No breaking problems here. However, depending on the selected Drive Mode, you can feel that breaking is also affected.
Whilst I quite like the look of this, and it's interior is lovely, relatively speaking it makes the Jaguar I-Pace look like a bargain, and that car looks stunning. Your alternative two car purchase is tempting too though! Love the t-shirt btw👍.
Final comments have two Evs for the same price sums up that it is way too expensive
One of which is widely considered to be too expensive as well.
@@patreekotime4578 I agree
to answer his last question: The Polestar is a really small car in comparison.
Not internally. Exterior dimensions mean nothing these days - it is all about the packaging.
@@TheLateBrakeShow I looked at both cars and opened the trunk and the polestar was considerably smaller. The etron is more like a lifted Audi a7, which is a big car.
@@TheLateBrakeShow For that you need to look for Bjorn Nyland banana box test. It seems that Kia Soul can fit the same amount of banana boxes as e-tron.
I think a good conclusion here is if money is not a main criteria in picking your vehicle, and performance just has to be good enough, but rather style and comfort combined is a focus, then this is a candidate. I'm not one of those people, but i do understand who they are targeting. Also, the aero combined with the heavy body and noise proofing are all indicators that the autobahn is a primary place for this vehicle, not so much bendy narrow backroads or dense city center traffic.
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Appreciate your honesty, and your views. Thank you.
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Yet again another realworld honest review and not just blinded by the badge we need more if this!
In terms of power and range, it's a Polestar 2 competitor. But the Polestar is nearly 2 seconds quicker to 62mph and nearly half the price. You're right - the e-tron Sportback is not great value. Great review. As ever.
And I've just seen your last comment mentioning the Polestar 2...
great review Jonny, agree with you, sporty looking well ok, it is tough to beat the interiors they are always well done for comfort/materials, the cost well I am here in Canada where the federal Gov't has done little to nothing to promote EV's or a coast to coast charging network, and for the dealers here to sell whatever brand of EV there is a heck of a waiting list and the dealers all mark up the price on them and just say well too bad, 2 friends went to buy EV's one a Tesla model 3 long range and the other a Kona EV with the i think it was 78 kilowatt battery pack , they both expected they'd have to pay the window sticker price and rudely surprised they'd have to add about 5k to the Tesla and 10k for the Kona EV , which made the Kona more than the Tesla we are just getting held for ransom on EV pricing here in Manitoba, it could just be the dealers here, I would just like to buy the Honda -E myself and don't need anymore than that , plus its just a cool car in its own right and is RWD , my preference and my round trip to work daily is only 80 kms, so this is fine, Honda Canada says they will go on sale in Canada in 2024, wow just over 3 years from now, by then they will have a longer range battery as standard for me again they forecast 10-12 %, the crazy part again it could start at $46000 CDN or 26000 sterling that is still a big lump to swallow, I use to work for Volvo Canada some almost 30 yrs back and have been offered some nice incentives on pricing on a Polestar 2, they are working to get them out in the market, mine would be RWD model don't need AWD, not necessary for me i know how to drive in winter, and the discount was quite attractive to me, and love Volvos been driving them 40 yrs now, best car,
WOW! .... finally some tesla alternatives. ... super interested, looks gorgeous! THANKS
Great review as ever but I do wonder why compare just EVs to each other? Yes, some people are just looking at buying an EV first and foremost but surely it’s now got to the point where people will be cross shopping between EVs and ICE cars. You might want an iPace or a Polestar 2 but need space for camping trips and kids’ bikes so suddenly that 600L boot on this Audi is all important and that’s why the E-trons and the Tesla X remain in a fairly unpopulated niche. Happily the VW ID4 and enyaq are going to fill out the market at relatively affordable levels soon.
I watched this straight after EVM's eVito review. The van comes out lighter and with better efficiency. That Audi sound proofing is seriously heavy stuff!
Another point for the Tesla is the supercharger network that you have left out but overall, very nice work
Excellent suggestion about the dream garage ! Emphasis on the dream part...
I think the normal e-tron with normal mirrors,s-line in that colour combo with the Pano roof is my sweet spot.
You didn't go back to the mirrors and never said why you disliked them?
I don't get why they shaped the screens like mirrors. Surely with cameras you can have a lens with a wider view and can show more if rectangular screens were used, covering the blind spot plus more than what you could probably cover with a physical mirror. So potential safety benefits. I can also imagine in the future these kind of camera mirrors being tricked out with safety overlays and night time image enhancements etc.
those cameras are super expensive and incredibly hard to use since they are in an awkward spot, thats probably why he doesn't like them, you don't see many etrons with this feature for a reason (i work at the audi belgium factory where the etron is made so i know what options get taken a lot and wich ones not)
The e-tron does feel very special in a way the Model X does not, and that feels worthwhile. I think that range won't be a problem as it's still quite high.
We are patiently waiting for Škoda Enyaq!
I don't think that's a strange mind: the polestar+honda seems like good sound consumer advice to me.
Hey Jonny nice to see you again. E-Tron Quattro and Sportback is too expensive. I wait to see you checking out the Q4 e-tron, ID.4, Skoda Enyaq, Nissan Ariya
Does it's sunroof leak and the computer system crash
Nobody pays list price for an Audi. You can get a brand new E-Tron for £53k on Autotrader. I'm not saying that's cheap, but it's £7k under list price.
I've got a 50 Technik on a lease, and it's a great car for my needs. I'm paying pretty much nothing for fuel, so it works out cheaper to run than my previous very sensible petrol Volvo estate.
.... my grandfathers 1967 Austin 1100 had an active grill, that opened via a secondary thermostat !
I take the Jaguar I-Pace instead, infact I already did 🤗
if you think that thing is quiet try the mercedes eqc it is basically built for 0 sound with soudn proofing in the wheelwells and stuff they have it in the museum somewhere showing how much effort they have put into making it soundproof.
That car is hundreds of kilos heavier than my campervan. Which is 4-wheel drive, has front and rear difflocks, 165hp, a bed, cooker, heater.. Plus I don't feel physically ill looking at it due to the dreadful design.
Got those lights on my new A3 , they are incredible by the way..
Did Audi already fix the problem of water leaking into the cabin from the rear mirror when it rains as one owner had complained?