Living with an EV for a week didn't go well !!! [AUDI e-tron]
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Thanks to Audi UK I had the chance to live with their stunning new e-tron. I had lots of plans for the week and hoped to take you along for the ride during a typical week for me as a UA-camr...I didn't work out that way !!
The car itself is truly impressive but what gave me the biggest challenge was charging infrastructure. If the UK government want us all to be driving electric or hybrid cars in the next 20-30 years we have a lot of work to do !
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Watched this whilst having my breakfast and coffee. This is more like an awareness video. Chances are many people who have little experience when it comes to EV cars, can run into the same problem as well. The whole planning ahead and charging infrastructure when it comes to EV cars is something I'll be considering when buying an electric car. You made the mistake so we can learn from it. Thx for the video.
Thank you. That is great to hear and one of the reasons I made the video 👍
You are a clot for not making sure it was not plugged in correctly!
or perhaps this was an anti ev video ... notice when he says doh i did not plug it in correctly i will use it tomorrow he still did not plug it in...
@@teslatrev5764 No, he realized it wasn't plugged in and charging the NEXT morning, when he was about to use it.
@@billcichoke2534 yes when he realised it was not plugged in the obvious thing to do was to plug it in while he used his fossil car ...
Why would he make sure it was not plugged in correctly?
@@Mrtweet81 To all replies....and what happens if you do forget to plug it in or make mistakes? You get up in the morning and look at the battery level and you think, oh bugger! You are catching a ferry to France, you have a hospital appointment, etc, etc, the list is endless, go on, I'm all ears.
You nailed it, there is no adequate or reliable infrastructure. I have a BMW i3, I took it on a journey beyond its range recently and needed to rely on the motorway fast charge (50Kw) network. I stopped well within the range of the next charging point and just as well because of the seven stops I made four of the chargers were faulty. To be fair phone support was excellent and two times the fault was cleared or the charge was free.
We need fast 50kw + chargers for motorway journeys (in a hurry) and 7kw for trickle charge for when you stop for a few hours (leisure times). Until this happens range anxiety will compromise EV adoption
WOW, really interesting. Thanks Phil 👍
No, you don't need to plan. Your 3 trips that week were all within the range of that car. You had 0 planning for that and it was possible even on the plug you had if only you had plugged in the car the evening before your second trip. And while being on location, have a look if there are any chargers nearby that can even help you out further. The reason you didn't do that on your first trip was because you said to yourself: plenty of range left. When you own a plug-in car, think about the ABC: Always Be Charging.
You also mentioned multiple times how Tesla has its charging infrastructure in order. My question then becomes: how far is the nearest supercharger from your location?
And remember that fast/super charging is only there for long trips. Your primary charging source has to be your home plug. Otherwise, it would simply be too damn expensive.
Hans So, actually, you do need to plan then? Say his first trip was twice the length in the video, he would have (maybe) just had enough to get back home. At which point, with his 3 pin charger, it would have taken him 40 hours plus to fully charge the vehicle again. This would have meant he would not have been able to make his day 2 journey.
If this was the case, he absolutely would have had to plan, otherwise he could have been left without transportation for a whole day. In this video he has brilliantly highlighted the biggest issue with ev’s in today’s market and it’s an issue that people all too often overlook.
@@lewishill87 the first trip was the one he did, so no issue there. His second trip was in total twice the range left in the car, but only because he didn't charge the car. Had he plugged it in correctly he wouldn't have had an issue. Of the 3 trips he was planning to do, none were out of reach for a fully charged car.
Hans I acknowledged that and yes, he should have made sure it was plugged in properly. However, using my example, whether he had plugged it in properly or not if the first journey was twice the distance he would have been stuck at home for day 2. He conveyed in his video the issue with constantly having to prepare and plan for journeys and that for some people that just isn’t practical.
@@lewishill87 In the hypothetical case his first journey was twice the distance it still wouldn't have been a real issue. He probably would have had to look for a destination charger to make sure he got home all right but since his second trip was only 2 days later, the car would have had time enough to go back to 100% even if the battery was almost depleted when parking it in the evening, but you have to plug the damn thing in.
Real planning with an EV comes into play when your drive goes far beyond the range of your battery. Let's say you want to do a 250 mile drive in a car that will only do 200 miles. Does that require a lot of planning? Not really. You know you'll only need 1 stop, preferably between the 150 and 200 mile mark.
Wanna go further than that? Let's say 800 miles? Make sure you get the right app or website, plug in your start point and destination and it will offer you all you need to know. An ever improving service for this is abetterrouteplanner.com . Select your car type and it takes everything into account, including elevation and if you give the right parameters it can even account for the weather. It will tell you how long to drive, how many stops, where to stop and all you have to do is leave on time and make sure you have an app with you to find available, working alternative chargers in case there is an issue with the one abrp suggested.
When people start saying things like you need to plan, they make it sound like you need to be a rocket scientist. No, most people don't need to plan most trips and when planning is required, they simply need to put some details in an app or website that will do the work for them.
Tesla have Superchargers at Havant, Sutton Scotney and Liphook, The nearest some 10 miles from Chichester.
'if you don't plan for an EV you are stuffed' that is the killer fact. Enjoyable vid Pete, good seeing your work, great watching your EV adventures
Roger Bailey agreed. I’ve watched several “Tesla road trip” videos and the overriding obsession is to drive from supercharger to supercharger putting in, what the computer calculates, is enough charge to get to the next supercharger. I couldn’t live like that. The anxiety, the wasted time, the wasted miles going out of your way… My car will do 800 miles on a tank on the motorway. No range anxiety in this lad 😂
Thanks Roger. Planning is everything 😬
yes it is hard to put a plug in a socket
Roger your a sensible bloke knows about cars & an electrical engineer so how many extra power stations, cable rewiring etc is needed in the near future
The person who can’t remember to plug in their electric car every night is the same person who runs out of petrol on the motorway and buys fuel 5 pounds at a time. They don’t ever learn.
I would say if you have 30 grand so spend on a EV you would also have more than 5 pounds in your pocket to buy fuel for your other car, what a very silly childish comparison.
@@robbeard6929 Never think you know better... you'd be amazed how stupid are some !
@@voldar70 To be honest I don't get that.
You didn't plug the damn thing in properly, do not blame it on poor planning, my god.
Point is, with and EV you cannot forget. Unlike Petrol vehicles, someone used it and forgot to fill it up, no worries, just fill it on the way, just a few minute deviation.
You or someone forgets to plug it (like a teenage child) because they came in at 4am in the morning and the next person using it (for work) is screwed.
@@crxdelsolsir - no worries, the general population can easily be indoctrinated to accept this technology in lieu of old fashioned fossil combustion engines. Some slick advertising, the necessary gov't mandates, maybe perfunctory tax breaks ... the future is electric.
John Gagnon when you charge your phone you make sure it is charging, he doesn’t think it is different..
@@crxdelsolsir Unless you work at 200 miles away from home, nothing is impossible. Just plug it in for 15 mins on a L3 and you can make it to work.
I drive a plug-in hybrid and for the first 6 weeks I had it, I didn't have a charger at home. Once I installed the home charger, it was a world of difference.
Not everyone has a garage people live in flats apartments or even homes on normal streets where any car can park outside your house like terraced streets. This plug it at home is a solution that works 10% of scenarios. Its dumb
You didn't plug the car in stop being silly.
Had he plugged it in correctly, he would have had 15h of charging. With 6 miles per hour that would have given him 90 miles, plenty to make it there and back again. And this is exactly how people are getting talked out of buying an EV. Spreading misinformation. He talked for minutes about how this is impractical but only spend 10 seconds on correcting his mistake.
@@Hans-gb4mv The other thing is when he didn't take the car for the day he didn't seem to leave it charging then either. Seems he's using lack of planning as a synonym for pure stupidity.
@@lozzamanuk He's another anti EV knob head . Before I bought my leaf I did loadsa research so knew where all the chargers were and had all the apps I needed.
@@paulcarnall791 He said the EV was great and thinks other EV's are also good, so how does that make him an "anti EV knob head" ?
Hans so, what do you do when you decide to make a detour ?
Or when you have to make a detour ?
Do you push the rest home ?
He has a point be saying that the infrastructura is not yet enough.
Same here in Belgium.
Also for the enviroment am not sure that these cars are better than petrol or diesel, Co neutral is more than just driving electric.
Now try and get a week with Kona, E Niro or Model 3. They are more efficient and fit into parking bays better. Easier to live with and more forgiving when forgetting to plug in. Oh and cheaper.
Yes! Model 3 for the win.
Jonathan Meazza 😂🤮🤮🤮🤮
I’m a London Cabbie and the Government is desperate to force us into hugely expensive Electric cabs with an appalling infrastructure, no thanks, I’m going to keep my smelly diesel for as long as I can.
(The new TXe only has a 50 Mile range)
As long as you put the exhaust pipe in front of a driver in a cab itself we are good.
x Peryskop who’s we?
I have just cancelled my order for a Skoda Enyaq Sportline lease car from work because I genuinely do not think we are ready for EV cars. I couldnt face going to France 4 times a year with all the stops/range anxiety. Went out and got an A8 3.0 diesel - such a pleasure to drive after a petrol hybrid for the last 4 years.
when you said oh i wont be able to use the clean car today as i did not plug it in .... you still did not plug it in .... still ice car fans will love this tale...
No, he's just telling you like it is. Without the spin.
@@shadowx2k2007 I was correct .... you did love this tale....
I agree.. I had a call 2 months ago saying that my mother was seriously ill.. 3.00am Sunday.. I jumped in the car and drove.. I couldn’t have factored in EV charging. I left the hospital at 11.00 that night... full EV will only work with decent network and much faster charging!
Thats nonsense you hadn’t enough charge in your car, not through any lack of planning but because you hadn’t plugged it in properly. That’s not anything to do with planning it was down to you being careless. If you’d fill a diesel car with petrol, I’ve done that🤭 you’d be equally stuffed. At least you can go and rapid charge for 10 minutes to get out of trouble. Try doing that if you make a mistake with your ice car.
Completely agree with you Colin.
You nailed it!
The car is used completely unprepared.
Making beginner mistakes is not a fault of the car............
RVO nah 200miles tops is what people are getting on a full charge in real world driving which is still not very practical, factor in cold weather conditions,rain, or heavy traffic hot weather +air conditioning that will tumble
Colin. You do not get it......the problem is how you have to change and be prepared rather than the flexible possibilities that the fuel concept provide. There are so many issues and wasted time used to plan with Electric concept rather than just go....I would prefer Hydrogen.....
Kim Christofte
Good luck in finding a hydrogen station! What planning is there to plugging the car in to a 7 kWh home charger. The only thing that I would agree with you on is if you arrive home with a depleted battery and need to go out in an emergency on a long run, but how often is that? However at the moment an electric car isn’t for everyone I can understand that, but the future is electric ⚡️👍
With the E-Trons speed recognition, it'll be interesting if you come across a sign saying, for instance, "Happy 100th B'day Gladys!" You're doing 60, your car see the sign and Woosh!! before you know what's happening, your doing the ton and Mr. Plods hot on your tail. Try telling them it wasn't you driving :-))...
You've hit the nail on the head with electric cars. Cannot fault what you've said.
As for the E-Tron. Lovely looking car both in and out. Not sure about the engine. Until they sort out more Electric places, I'm more than happy to go with a nice, simple fuel guzzling car.
Great video though Pete. Gotta be one of the best :-))...
Mate, that is funny 😂
The infrastructure issue is crucial for many people in terraced houses or in flats or apartments as they will not be able to trail a cable out to the car. Thus public charging stations are essential. I would also worry about on street charging as at some point you can bet your life a vandal will take an axe to your cable one day.
I live in a Cul-de-Sac with no allocated parking - it's first come, first parked. I could never have an EV (even though it would be more practical than petrol) simply because my location (and many of my neighbours) would never support it.
As for taking an axe to the cable, I would be more worried (on a long trailing lead), of someone unplugging and using my electricity to fuel their own home or EV for the night (the EV equivalent of syphoning petrol?).
@@dome592 you can't unplug it without the key...
Jayne Vaughan not if your using a 3 pin, as you told need a extension lead to plug in. They'd just unplug that.
Finally a sensible comment rather than whiny fanboys just failing to understand how the UK isn't the same as America lol
@@dome592 This car is the first to do 150 kw+ sustained charging, so you can pull into a CCS Faster Charger, and get a fillup, almost like a petrol station in the amount of time it takes.
Your 2nd EV video and the second video where you forget to check the car is charging and then complain about the car.
Who is this clown? Never heard of him, does he just not charge EVs and then wonder why he can't reach his destinations?
Karl P oh Karl....I am sure your shift at KFC must start soon
As forgetful as he had, it will surely happen more often to a less-organized person. So to me it's still an useful information if I am considering buying an EV. The lessons I learned from here are 1) need to be a more organized person, 2) install a proper charging port at home 3) own another car that's petrol-powered!
When I run out of petrol I dont blame the car. If I try filling the car up without putting it in the filler I don't blame the car.
Er reply with a time code where is complains about the car.
this is silly, it is like testing a ICE with a 5 litre can of fuel....and saying it did not go well... well duh!
At least you can carry a spare can of fuel in the boot, you cannot keep a spare can of electric can you?
@@robbeard6929 This only if you are smart enough to remember to get one. From what I see, this dude is not able to this task.
Rob Beard I have a “spare” battery pack in my backpack that can jumpstart a car, run/charge my laptop, and phone. Oh and there’s companies already producing portable EV charging stations. sparkcharge.io.
Except is nothing like that at all
@@vapouricksmith4410 portable ev chargers aren't really equivalent to a petrol can though. They would be incredibly heavy and big in comparison purely due to the nature of what they are.
This guy is still a pillock though for a) not plugging it in properly and not realising that 58 miles is definitely not a full night's charge (even on a 3 pin charger!) and b) for trying to assess EV performance based on not having a proper charger at home.
He says it himself, if you have an EV then you'll get a charger installed, so makes his point of not having enough charge completely moot
You are correct that planning is needed. And anybody can accidentally find their overnight charge did not work. But for someone new to EV charging, you would check it was charging before going to bed. As others have said, that "slow" top-up on first night would have been enough to transform your week. And of course if you ever want a rapid charge, you'd build it into your route so it would not be a round trip of 70 miles to gain (unto) 200. You were right to explain the joy of not filling up (and paying for) petrol. In my 3.5 years I have saved £5,500 using a very modest ranged EV (even after paying for the electricity instead).
I agree. I didn't do anything different the second night I plugged it in and didn't think there could be a problem. A mistake you only make once 😥
For all the haters- this is a real thing, I have a PHEV and forgot to charge a few times, in my case it didn’t matter because I could run in hybrid mode.
His experience is just one example of why EVs will take a long time to hit the mass market...
Thank you. Someone who sees my mistake as easy to do but one that has a dramatic effect on my plans 👍
I think it's so great that Hugh Jackmann is taking us on a private tour while also talking about cars. Thank you, Hugh!
I ran out of fuel in an ICE car because I didn’t check the fuel gauge. Living with an ICE car for a week didn’t go well !!!
Did you forget how to put in the fuel nozzle too?
Such a shame these ICE cars get such low mileage.
Hector Andem ‘I walked away and came back and found petrol all over the floor. My cigarette fell out of my mouth I was so surprised’.
A lot of pretty silly comments in here. Yes, he didn't plug the car in and yes it wasnt charged.
But the point is that with a petrol car you dont have to fill it up every night before you go to bed, simply have enough fuel to get you to the nearest fuel station which is a 5 minute stop.
With an EV that stop for charging will take some time and as the videos points out the infrastructure isn't there.
If I remember rightly, he absolutely rated the car, its the UK EV infrastructure that is under critique here.
Cheers Bud :-)
That was a nice insight into electric car ownership, including to forget to connect it properly, as these things probably would happen. It highlights the importance of setting up the charger at home, need for planning ahead, understanding what chargers available at what distance to your home/work, and be prepared when chargers are broken or not working, someone using it, etc.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it 👍
I'm going to make a video where I fill up my petrol car using a straw and forget to fill it up the day it needs it It'll prove how bad petrol cars are.
Antman4656 you don’t need a full tank to take your car to the nearest petrol station....
Absolutely what I was thinking
fm carv
That was my thing, imagine owning a petrol car and hoping when you get to the petrol station no one is there, then hoping you have the right app/rfid card, then hope the pump works, only to find out that the only one that works is a pump that trickles... Then come back to find the pump just stopped working while you were gone and only delivered 10miles of fuel.
@@fmsantoscar err, you don't need a full EV charge to get to the nearest EV charging point either so I don't understand what point you're trying to make there?
@@Robert-cu9bm Ever got to a filling station to find that it was closed? Or that the pump was out of order? Or that your payment card was not accepted because the Link network was down? I've had those, the last two within the last year more than once. However, you are also comparing a mature infrastructure with one that is emerging and not without problems but equally, lots of filling stations have closed down over the years. In my parents town, there's one filling station, the next one 10 miles away.
I made a long posts in reply to another comment but just wanted to comment on one thing you said in the video. Please remember, once you have a home charger installed, you won’t care if the nearest charger is 30 miles away. Close to home is not where you need rapid chargers to be. Was a good video, and many of your points are valid, but most of your issues would have been non-issues if a) you had a home charger and b) you actually plugged the car in!!! 😆 I know you yourself did make that point but as someone who recently made the switch, I get it worth emphasising. I’m surprised at how easy the change was. Didn’t require much of a change, and in fact it made life easier in many ways.
In this instance, you didn't need to plan ahead. You just have to properly plug it in before you go to bed just like you plug in your phone or camera equipment. When you own an EV, you have a proper wall charger. For longer trips, that's where Tesla shines. I drive regularly from NYC to DC. In my i3 Rex, I used more gas than grid power because the chargers were unreliable and out of service for months along the turnpike. Meanwhile, the red glowing Tesla superchargers taunted me from across the parking lot. So I bought a Tesla. For my 300 mile trip, I charge my Model X once mid-way while I get a coffee at the rest stop. So it takes no added time. For longer trips, I fly.
I love owners experiences!
Should have tested a Tesla, they have more range and the shock mounts probably wouldn't crack like the Audi's.
I have tested both Model S and Model X 👍
There are three 50kW public chargers in Chichester, West Ashling and Emsworth. All three chargers are under 10 miles from Binderton.
Nick Morley let’s just hope all of the 3 people that own EVs in that area don’t remember to all go charging their cars at the same time
@@fmsantoscar They'd have no need, they'd be charging at home.
as long as ten EV owners dont want to charge at the same time. Or worse, the grid is down.
Rosalie Bent why not do some real research instead of being blinkered all your life. And I don't mean the daily mail.
@@colinnich so u dont think the power grid ever downs and you dont think people ever queue for fuel/power?
you are an ideoologue who never drives any real distance
If you'd actually done a little research before filming this you would have found zapmap, which shows all chargers, speeds and if they are working. Not really a difficult thing to do. I agree that infrastructure is a big issue, however it should not have hindered your experience at all. I no longer own a car, but my last was a full EV and I never had to use public chargers. Always managed by home charging every night. If you have a 7kw installed at home it's likely you'll rarely use the public charging network.
So you don't own a car now. Ok, don't comment on cars then you wanker!!!!
Why download an app? Then once he’s done that he’d have to download another and another for the various providers. What a joke
Driving BEVs is a state of mind, unless you have made the commitment and plan your route well its not going to work for you. I did over 500 miles in mine in a day in October & 400+ miles last Tuesday into a very remote area. Both journeys were a breeze and very enjoyable. I'm on my 5th BEV and the thing I love most is the way they hold their value.
A bad workman always blames his tools.
I didn't blame my tools I admitted to making an error 🤔
You're a fucking idiot Dave.
@@PetrolPed Admitting you were a tool, but still keeping this video alive. What tool is this ?!?
@@voldar70 To tell people DON'T BE TOOLS!!! He's slagging the forgetfulness and the infrastructure which is NOT idiot proof. If the government are commanding the end of oil fuelled cars, the network needs to be idiot proof.
We don't call this a weakness of the vehicle, but carelessness of the driver. It it understood that you are not used to EV. In these cases, you need to be bit responsible & careful. I am pretty sure that very early car users (in 1890's) had experienced the similar situations with petrol.
I am planning to move to EV with my next car. But I will buy the fast charger with it. Otherwise same thing which happened the mudaliyar (chieftain), who bought the elephant but did not by the goad (ankus) will happen to me.
Not everyone has a garage to charge their car. People live in flats apartments or terraced homes where anyone can park outside your home. 'Just charge it at home is a 10% solution thats not everyone". Home chargers are also slow even with a bloody box installed.
A reasonable solution would have been to leave half hour early for Oxford, get a fast charge while having a coffee and catching up on your email, but that would have been for someone that wanted this to be a successful trip clearly not the case here.
You didn't listen properly did you. Not checking it was charging was his mistake. It clearly means you need to double check and not doing so is not a good reason to be against EV cars. The other issue is the EV owners job. A simple job means it's easier to live with an EV. A job where your going all over the country at short notice means its not. Jesus EV owners are so precious.
If he had the car for a second week he would have completely changed his mind. You can definitely over-think your charging routine starting out with an EV. I bought a 2018 Nissan Leaf (150 mile range) just over a year ago and was shopping around for a 240 volts charger and an electrician to install the line. In the meantime I used the included 120 volt charger. It turned out the I never even needed to buy the 240 volt charger. My daily commute is about 70 miles per day and then on weekends I drive the car another 70 or so miles on errands. I have 𝐧𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 needed to charge at a public station. I'm still using the trickle charger. The simple rule is; when the car is in the garage, it is plugged in.
I am sure another week would be a completely different story. I learned a lot during my time with the e-tron. I just happened to make my mistakes on camera 😜
For EVs to be practical we need to be able to charge at the same speed as filling up a petrol car, say 5 minutes charge for a range of 500 miles (like my current car). Thank you to all you early adopters but UK not ready for mass EV usage yet.
100% Agree!! If car manufacturers want us to transition to EV's, it HAS to be a complete "apples to apples", "oranges to oranges" lateral transition, with no drawbacks or inconveniences. Price, range and 'refuel' time all have to be the same as ICE vehicles, otherwise the general consumerate is not going to switch powertrains just to have a horrible, lesser, more troublesome experience. Nope...
@@jaroessa294 Agreed Elon knows better than most that disruptive digital technology only works well when it transitions seamlessly into the users life adding real VALUE.... currently it's just to disruptive and people won't engage with disruption if it's going to create friction and minimal VALUE. Right now I think his main interest is to extend life on our planet with E'Vs while he find's a new home for us to live on like Mars. .. :-)
Won't happen... well it can't for the foreseeable future. Due to physics of heat generation to charging rate and energy density.
EVs are still in the hands of enthusiasts and there are issues, imagine when those that can't be bothered to but their phone down start operating them.
@@bowez9 You are right, which is why most people will hang back until they are nearer to ICE in usage.
@@CliffDaviszootour Yep, people will just hang back, as Cliff said. And that is already being seen here in the U.S. In 2018, all of the EV auto sales only totaled ~2%, 98% of consumers snubbed EV's as they still preferred an ICE vehicle for their primary source of transportation. And according to industry analysts, 2019 will also come in at 2% for EV sales, even possibly lower, as the fat gov't tax-incentive goes bye-bye.
Oooh I like when cars give you bongs... and Audi's have the most polite, friendly bongs of them all
You should attend Fully Charged Live at Silverstone Friday 7 to Sunday 9 June to learn more. All current UK EVs will be on display.
So he can learn how to plug it in?
If you don't plug in the charger correctly, *then* you are stuffed.
stuffed with what mate???
I just don’t see how Audi can bring this “flagship” car out when it’s only got 200 miles of range. That’s not good enough especially when the competition are claiming 300 mile plus. No one seems to acknowledge this though but to me this would be a big blocker.
Totally agree. Tesla has cars rated for 375 almost double this? How can Audi be this far behind?
Five minutes of context squeezed into a 24 minute video
david UK welcome to UA-cam
Yep, don't give a shit about this guy's day job.
Won’t work out people, imagine if there’s a lot of them queuing up at a charging station and the whole process takes 3-5 hours. Future is hydrogen/fuel cell. In the meantime, if one absolutely wants to drive an electric, buy a hybrid....
Whether you like it or not, the future is hydrocarbons that we dig up and refine into petrol and diesel. As long as you need tyres and as long as you need plastics and as long as you need aviation fuel, we will be drawing crude oil. The problem therein? When you crack crude, you get about 11 gallons of petrol per barrel and a slightly lower diesel yield. What to do with it all when we're all driving electric vehicles is the big question.
Millions in the UK live in terraced houses with no off road parking, like me. For us I cant see an EV ever being an option
...and for tens of millions in the U.S. too, who live in apartments, townhouses and condominiums with no garage parking.
Very true, a potentially big problem down line line 👍
Peasant. Just make sure you know where all your local chargers are and you'll be fine.
This is where the Public Charging Infrastructure comes into play, you would simply need to find a Public charging station once a week and charge up your EV. It would not be much different than you currently do for your Petrol car. Additionally, workplaces and car parks will eventually install charging stations for those who don't have the option of home charging. It will take time, but EV chargers will eventually become more commonplace than existing Petrol stations.
@@zoidburg2975 There going to have to be a lot more numerous than they are now....scumbag
Excellent video, demonstrating the plus and minus points of owning an EV. You hit the nail on the head when you were unable to charge at not one but two locations. This would NEVER happen with a petrol or diesel car as the chances of finding a fuel station that had no fuel at both locations is probably a million to one! The infrastructure is the major issue with these cars and this is why hybrids will dominate until such a time that the infrastructure is able to support these cars in the same way that petrol or diesel cars are at present
Cheers, glad you enjoyed it 👍
Charge on your way home at the last fast charging point you pass, then connect at home to keep the batteries charged
Andre van Rijsbergen
All well and good if they work, but half the time they don't. And only the 7kw plug does, and frankly no one wants to sit at a services for a day.
The lower range in the e-tron really compounds small problems into giant problems. Informative.
People gripe that he didn't handle this properly but he still has a point. Charging infrastructure in nearly every country is inadequate at the moment. Not everyone can have a charging station at home, especially if you rent your accommodations.
Only when charging is as fast as filling a petrol car to capacity will they be proper replacements for internal combustion engines and hybrids. And those charging stations as common as petrol stations (I have 8 or 9 within 3 kilometres of where I live) so the need for home charging stations aren't needed at all. The nearest ev charging station near me is around 10 kilometres away...that might not seem like much, but it is a big pain in the arse when it's through city traffic and right out of the way of most of my travels.
Great, very honest review, Ped. EVs are only ready for a subset of the population right now. It’s just a matter of figuring out whether you’re in that subset. My wife absolutely hates going to petrol stations: the smell, having to choose the fuel. For her the idea of a car that she can just plug in when she gets home, like her phone, and it will be ready for her to drive the next day, would be godsend. That’s the thing, public charging infrastructure is less important than people think, as most charging will happen at home. I know a few EV owners and they all say they hardly ever use public chargers. Looking at your week, if you had‘ve plugged the car in properly, you would have had plenty of charge for the next day. That’s a mistake you’d only make once if you owned the car. It’s a bit like forgetting to charge your camera the night before a big day of filming: it would spoil your day, but you could hardly conclude that battery operated cameras are rubbish.
I've done the not charging cameras thing before...only once mind 😂😂😂
I've done the not charging cameras thing before...only once mind 😂😂😂
Great review from an non-electric owner. I really appreciate you recognizing the infrastructure is the lacking portion of EV ownership rather than just blaming the car or the whole idea of EV driving. I can say that I believe Audi missed a bit on this car by not doing a full re-tool and taking advantage of lightweight parts to increase the range. At just 200 miles, the e-Tron really does not work well for someone that does long journeys. It is still a great car for someone that can charge every night and only needs 50-75 miles a day. But, in Texas where I live getting anywhere on that range is nearly impossible. I drive a BMW i3 Rex and just getting to my annual maintenance is 120 miles each way. And they don't seem to have time to charge the car while I'm there. So I use the range extender and still get home with about 50 miles of 'original' charge, but having filled and emptied the 2.4gal fuel tank twice. I think that is a great option, but the push is for ALL electric and infrastructure really needs to improve if that is to be an reality.
Cheers Fred 👍
Wow, a lot of harsh comments. Sorry for that. Nothing wrong with criticizing, but wish people would nicer about it. Just wanted to say if you're an average driver, driving 30 to 50 miles per day, you really don't need to be organized or think ahead, even with only a 3-pin "trickle" charger. Just plug in your car when you get home each evening, and at 6 miles of range gain per hour, in the morning you have 60+ miles of charge, which usually fills up the battery if you're driving 30 to 50 miles per day as most do. For my EV I didn't bother buying a faster charger. I just plug in to the standard 3-pin wall outlet, and wake up each morning with a full charge, and love never having to worry about stopping for gas like I used to. I actually have less range anxiety w/ my EV than I did with my gas vehicle, because sometimes with gas I'd let the tank go too low, then have to unexpectedly plan a gas station stop before it got to empty. Now I wake up with a full "tank" every morning! :-) Of course if you're driving more than 60 or 70 miles a day, you'd want to install the faster charger, or look into a long range Tesla Model 3, or if your very rich, Model S.
Someone needs to make an in depth assessment of real life EV use including how the national electricity grid will cope with millions of 7kw chargers being added
The reason range decreased more than the miles is because highway driving uses much more energy than 'average' city driving which is what the rangeometer basis it's prediction on. This seems contrary to petrol cars, as they're often though as 'MORE efficient' on highway driving but this is only because they're so rediculously innefficient at everything else. Town and city stop-start driving is where EVs excel. Also - great vid.
Not thought of it that way Mike. Thanks for that 👌👏
Pointless review. If you buy an EV you have a home charger installed.
Does he not say that.?
Exactly what I said 🤔
On behalf of the many people who are reading this who regularly drive EVs without hassle ( I am one of them) can I say that this report does not represent day to day experience. I leave my EV on solar charging when its at home - charging up at 7 kW, so its generally over 80% when I need it. I know exactly where the fast chargers and destination chargers are on all my routes and I check they are working and available using a phone App. Sure, it requires a little planning but its not hard. As you say the cars are brilliant, but you cant jump into them and behave exactly as you do with a petrol/diesel car with bowsers around the corner. I have covered 10000 km in the last 3 months with no anxiety and the direct cost has been zero.
I just did my learning on camera 😥
A bit biased for your audience, don't really believe that you didn't plug it in properly.
Ridiculous comment
I agree , second time EV reviewed and second time not properly plugged in. Nobody’s that dim!
You should try and find Istanvolt rapid chargers. They take around 40 - 45 minutes to charge. You do not need an app or company card; you can simply use your debit card at the machine. The cables are provided. Also, you can try Shell and Charge Master (BP) chargers. They are rapid chargers that do not need an app. Just scan your debit card and away you go.
I’m so sad that you don’t have a good charging infrastructure. I live in the San Diego area in southern California and there are fast chargers at most 10 miles apart from each other. Here driving a ev is very feasible, hopefully in the future with more a demand the infrastructure in your area can develop.
Do you have an EV? If you do...how much does it cost you to fully charge your EV at a recharging station and how long does it take? No videos on EVs that I've watched talks about those VERY IMPORTANT facts.
@@chrisperron4678
I’ve a Model S and the charging is free - for lifetime of the car!
I believe the Audi gives you a couple of years’ free too - if you can find a suitable charger, of course.
I borrowed my brothers car on the weekend and the sound and performance from a supercharged V8 is astonishing. It wouldn't even enter my mind to get any electric car. They are soulless heaps of tin and as sexy as a smelly sock.
Reading through a lot of UNFAIR negative comments here, the point being made guys is it is VERY easy to forget to plug something in, we all do it, my phone was almost dead this morning, however Petrol Ped is highlighting the potential DISASTER if your car wont work in the morning due to lack of a decent charge. He makes clear that a decent over night charge will need a special charging port which could be tough luck if your not staying home that night. For EV transport to work the infrastructure needed is going to be enormous, our National Grid is currently over capacity by about 10% and for the EV future will require increasing multiple times, more power stations, more wind farms, more nuclear plants if it is to cope with powering all our transport needs. EV is the future but theres much work to do much money to find and NO forgetting to plug it in.
Tell me something if u forget to fill ur petrol/diesel car at the end of ur trip how will u commute with the same car the next day. 99.999999999% of the ev owners mite forget to charge their phones overnight but not their evs.
Peace.
How much did he beg you to write that? Petrol Ped is running out of credibility faster the Etron ran out of juice.
I know it was your fault for not charging correctly but the lack of juice in the morning brings up something I wish they will bring out soon. I saw a video over a year ago about EV bikes and on this video one of the motorbikes had replaceable battery packs. For instance, I think there were 3 batteries that you just slide into the holes probably the size of a lunch box where the motor would normally be. Now if you had the same option for cars, you would want to have more than 3 batteries. I was thinking in the boot or in the frunk (as it is called) you have a panel behind where you can have replaceable batteries that can be charged while you use the car. So you would have, say, 80% secured battery and 20% replaceable. Also handy for longer trips.
That sounds like a great idea. I think size and weight would be a challenge.
@@PetrolPed True. Although they could reduce the main battery size so you don't gain so much weight as well as not getting as much of a boost but you have the ability to carry more if required. I guess the idea is the ability in situations like yours where there is instant power by merely changing out the batteries.
I totally agree. Had to train my mind when we had that Mitsy PHEV for 3 months. Great video as always pal, Thankyou.
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If we in the UK will only be allowed to buy electric cars after 2030 how will we charge them?
Can the mains cables in residential streets carry sufficient current to charge a street full of electric vehicles (and electric boilers)?
Simple answer no.
What plans are there to completely upgrade all electricity supply cables by 2030?
None.
I live in an area with only on-street parking. Where would I, (and the 20 million people this will be a problem for) charge overnight? If you can afford an EV and have land that you can park on and have a quick charger and can recharge overnight then OK for you but for most of us?
10 years to tackle these issues.
Government (of whatever brand) will probably start planning in 2029.
A good point Cliff 👍
zapmap is the go to for finding a charging station in my opinion - where you live can dictate what you can drive but with the installation of a home charger it should help those who live away from main routes.
It was unfortunate that the trickle charger wasn't plugged in properly that one night; if it had been, the whole week might have turned out a more positive experience.
But once you buy an electric car, and show an interest, you will very quickly adapt to the way to organize yourself. As he said, imagine coming out to your petrol car every morning and having a full tank, I even think it requires less organizing to drive an EV.
Cheers
It's not "if you don't plan", it's if you are irresponsible and imprecise. Not fueling generally speaking will cause issues no matter your plans. Prior Preparation Prevents Poor Performance in business, life and automobiles alike
Chad Ryan Clark everyone makes mistakes. Ever forget to charge your phone overnight? Of course you have. Stop being so righteous lol
Really enjoyed your program .
I live in SA , electric power will be a dream in this part of the world . I can quite easily do 600 kms a day if I’m on a long business trip . I have a Discovery 2019 diesel . Electric power is just not feasible . As you say , you really have to plan ahead if you do have an electric motor . Sorry but I’ll stick to diesel or petrol . Really enjoy your show by the way .
Plus you have Load Shedding to deal with 😳
Dear Anthony, Unfortunately, the charging infrastructure is not robust enough (especially in SA) to support you with your daily travel needs. I would like to suggest you look into a Plug-in Hybrid for your next vehicle. This way you can travel on all electric a majority of the time, yet still have the petrol engine for times you exceed your Electric Only range. I can say from experience that the Plug-in Hybrid is a Fantastic way to "Drive Electric" most of the time!!!!!
BB Cooter hi BB, thank you for your comments .
There are a few hybrids around and more models arriving , Jaguar and land rover and of course BMW .
Unfortunately the pricing of these vehicles is financially scary . I’m not sure if you’re familiar with Sandton / Melrose Arch Johannesburg ? Melrose arch do have a couple of charging points .
The other point that Ped Pete didn’t mention was the cost of installing a factory ‘quick’ charger .
I don’t have exact figures but I believe they’re quite expensive ?
I’m doing a road trip on Friday from Johannesburg to Cape Town .
It’s 10 day holiday trip via Graaf reinet, Plettenburg Bay , Cape Town , franschoek , Kimberly then eventually Johannesburg.
I reckon 4500 kms . ( in my petrol Jaguar)
I’ll check how many charge points I see 😊😊
Cheers 👍
You are not stuck IN traffic. You ARE TRAFFIC!
Most people miss that fine point of narcissism.
Avoid being traffic and take a train.
The impression I got from reading the magazine CAR is that the E-tron is a bit "behind the curve" compared to nearly every other electric car on the road. AND, it's expensive because you are paying for the technology and the brand name....at some point VAG will produce other, cheaper, better e-vehicles than this.
And I agree that the infrastructure needs a vast expansion in the countries where ev's are sold, though apparently the U.K. makes it harder to charge a vehicle with spotty charger locations and non-compatible billing schemes.
This guy should be a host on Top Gear!
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head with this video. There are a surprisingly large number of people on here commenting that you don’t need to plan ahead and that you should have made sure it was charging properly and that the current infrastructure is sufficient. But I disagree and personally think that the problems you faced in this video are indicative of the experience you would have from owning an ev. Yes, you would get used to it and grow out of the ‘range anxiety’ that people are first afraid of, but the problem still exists that you will have to plan ahead for every single journey.
Cheers Lewis. I learned a lot but as a UA-camr happened to do that on camera for all to see 😂
All the reasons why I gave up my EV! It was lovely on the motorway so comfy and quiet with enough oomph to overtake. All was great until you released how quickly you lost range compared to around town. As for hoping the next available charger was working or not a queue for it, that just added to the issue. Having to wait nearly an hour for a near full charge was awful, it never saved me as much money as you’d end up buying food to eat just to pass the time! Everyone including you Pete that mentions about the infrastructure is dead right. I see anyone who bought an EV is a pioneer so hoping the sales of their cars gets re-invested into making the whole EV thing something for the masses. I loved my EV but we arn’t there yet, so now went back to a petrol car and enjoy driving more again.
Really interesting 🙏
I'm so there. I use my garage to charge my car over night which is so much better than having to go out to get gas and drive a gas car. The super charger network is great too, and I only eat when I feel hungry.
I also get money in my pocket from charging off peak from the smartcharge program.
Starship Driver I’m guessing you are in the US? Our charging network in the UK is not so great as this is one of the main issues plus also people’s attitude on not blocking the charge stations with ICE cars. The UK government could do more but they can’t even decide upon how to leave the EU! I’d have an EV back once there’s more choice and a better infrastructure.
I own a Gen 1 Nissan Leaf, as well as a petrol car. The Leaf as good as it is cannot travel more than about 35 miles in the winter with the heating on. I have a 42 mile round trip to work and in the winter more than half of that journey is without heating. Still though, electric is great. You do need to be aware though that the range is severely impacted in cold months, so if you don’t store the car in a garage, expect about a third off your range.
Last point, fast charging is not good for a battery, on a Leaf at least. The slower the charge the longer your battery will last.
This makes me think about emergency situations. All well and good to plan, but when the unexpected happens, and you have no choice but to get going now, that hour could be impossible to find. In cases of power outages, such as is happening right now in Texas, you are stuffed. I keep a pair of 20 litre Jerry cans of gas in case of emergency. I can top up the car in minutes if need be, and that gets me about 300 miles of range. Given the distances that are quite normal where I live, that is quite necessary. The full charge range on that Audi is barely adequate under ideal conditions. Add in -40 degree temperature and a snow storm, and all bets are off. It won't make it. Very often I drive were there is no chance of finding a rapid charger, and the chances of finding somewhere to plug in for hours, or even a day on trickle, are slim to none.
Oh dear. You didn’t try very hard regarding looking for a public charger. There are two 50kW DC chargers in Chichester. One is about 200m up the road from Waitrose by the council office, and there is a Polar charger 1 or 2 miles up the A27 on the Concierge Camp site.
I driven 15k in an BEV in the last 12 months and although the Public charging network isn’t faultless, it’s not that bad. Use the Zap-Map app. When on the move, and yes, definitely install a 7kW wallbox at home.
To be fair, that charger you mentioned can't be used by the public during the week. His area is very poor for infrastructure
Thanks. You had a bad experience but were still able to see that you can live with an EV if your infrastructure was there. I agree completely. I have a Tesla and great charging infrastructure here in Norway which makes owning an EV a breeze and I would never go back to petrol. However, I sometimes consider swapping my Model X for an I-Pace or the e-Tron but until Ionity coverage is on a par with Tesla, I just wouldn't do it.
Thanks mate. You are a rare bread...an understanding EV owner 👍😜😂
@@PetrolPed And you an honest and open minded petrol guy :)
It seems EV's are fine for retired people but working people with ever changing plans can be a nightmare. At least with a diesel you dont need to buy a refinery too.
Nope, you can fuel it with plant based oils but then have nothing left to eat. Bummer! :)
If you had plugged in correctly, you could have easily reached Woking, charge up at McLaren (probably free of charge) and return home and charge again overnight. You would have had a full battery next morning. I get your point. You need to think ahead and that gets more difficult when there are fewer fast chargers. But even with your dismal charging infrastructure, you COULD have done it. In my country most people HAVE TO go to a public charging station (=more expensive than charging overnight at home) because most people cannot park their cars on their own ground. They have to park it on public road somewhere where there is space.
Yep, without the issue I had charging my week would have looked very different 👍
Hi PP - I watched this video & the others you made about the Etron. I'm a self confessed gear head and gone totally EV and have absolutely no regrets.
In order to make the review more realistic you should have had a wall charger available.
At the end of the day if you are driving more than 200 miles round trip per day then yes you will need to include en-route charging time or destination charging. However if you have a home wall charger and drive less than 200 miles on most days then you have an improved lifestyle as your total time & money invested in re-fuelling your vehicle is reduced. The time cost can be as little as the extra seconds plugging the car in at the end of a day & removing the plug at the start of a day. You can wake up with a full tank of fuel in the car every day. Something not possible with a fuel car.
Another way to look at it ... How much money do you earn per hour? How many hours or part there of do you have to work to fill your petrol tank? How much time do you take out of your week to travel to a petrol station & fill your vehicle? Add in the 6 monthly ICE service cost, lost time whilst vehicle is being serviced, & travel time for servicing. Total all that up and compare it against the cost of putting the energy in an electric car every night & not only is it a less fatiguing enjoyable drive with thrilling acceleration but it has not so obvious cost advantages.
The EV is going to use that cheaper energy source more efficiently at about 90+% vs the ICE which is going to operate at less than 40% efficiency burning a higher priced energy source.
You have to factor in the original price difference too. A brand new Nissan Leaf is 31k$, a brand new Nissan Versa Note (roughly the ICE equivalent) is 16.5k$. when they are in warranty, the only cost you have to really factor in are the tires, the gas, and the oil change. Let's say you get a 3 year warranty with both, and after those 3 years you sell it/trade it in. Does the electrix save me money in those 3 years, to offset the original purchase cost? I don't think I would spend more than 15k$ on fuel + the cost of electricity that I would use to charge my car.
In about 1902 car drivers could not be certain they would find a filling station. So they needed to plan. Same today and this chap does seem a bit of twit not to have thought of that!
Not sure how you come to that conclusion...did you actually here what I said during the video, because I said exactly that 🤔
@@PetrolPed I watched the whole video. When you got the car, you must have realised the lack of charging points although we are told there are 17000 in this country. Also that 3 pin charging takes forever. You seemed a bit bemused that these problems occurred. So there was probably always going to be the potential of range anxiety. Hence going to Petersfield etc. Tesla by the way may not yet have the Audi build quality (making cars is extremely complicated) but they are miles ahead, literally, in most other respects, not just charging points, and must not be allowed to fail. A friend of mine has a Model S and unlike every other car, it actually gets better with the updates. He travels 500 miles to Scotland without problems.
Why do I think Petrol Ped also has issues keeping his phone charged...
I’m on my second plug-in Hybrid so a big fan of electric but Ignoring you’re not plugging in issue 😂 you have raised a really good point about the infrastructure away from your home… There are hardly any EVs in the UK at the moment imagine how bad it can be when the numbers of EV is increase on the infrastructure does not keep pace, I have this terrible vision of being sat waiting for a charger for hours! So nervous about making the full jump from hybrid to EV.
That's a really good point 👍
I did my pre Uni 9 months in '60, at BMW, Munich. Electric Motors were huge and noisy. Batteries were even bigger and very ineffective. Both have improved since. Electric Cars shall never replace the Internal Combustion Engine for two reasons: a 100 litres diesel weighs almost 100 kgs. If an LPG tank is installed, the weight shall only increase by 100 + kg making a total of 200 kgs for fuel. So, roughly, such a vehicle can be drive for 2,000 km (1 litre for 10 km) with one filling ...I drive to Sweden and Turkey, at least once in 2 months ...I have a BMW 750 il, V12 ...with an extra LPG tank installed ...I live in London. I fill both tanks at Dunkirk ...I need no filling until I get to Sweden ...for Turkey I need one more filling ...No Electric Car can give me that range ...
There should be a law forcing people to drive Electric Vehicles in Towns and Congested Areas like London to reduce Pollution. Most people do not drive more than 70 miles a day ...Electric Cars are ideally suited. Besides, Automotive Designers have to rethink Vehicle Design, making them lighter and functional. For tooling around town you need less gadgets and more room. Modern Cars are the leftover of the Iron age.
Notice how no one argues the point, all bloody brainwashed by the Global bullshit for EVs.
Cornelius Dr Vanderbilt you are still burning fossil fuels. The planet thanks you b
Infrastructure in the Netherlands and Germany are great. Multiple apps available to find charging possibilities
Have driven an EV to Hamburg recently I thought infrastructure in the Netherlands was excellent. I thought Germany still had a very long way to go...disappointing 😥
I am a petrol head, I love cars, the sound and the feel but I am looking forward to being able to walk around London without being choked by exhaust fumes.
However, as your video perfectly demonstrates, the EV infrastructure is pretty woeful.
Also I live in a flat so currently, home charging for me is impossible. It does not seem like enough is being done to prepare for the mandated change to EV's in 2040.
I would swap my diesel van for electric tomorrow if it were a realistic option. I wonder wether investment in green fuels would be a wiser path to be taking and from what I understand EV production is pretty damaging to the environment.
Loved the insight into your day job btw.
Great comment. Thank you 👍
I could not agree more. I live in a flat but would love an EV but it is practically impossible, no charging at work, no charging at home. Additionally the more people that get EV cars the more demand there will be for available charge points, with out the supporting infrastructure it won't work.
I think the infrastructure critism is a bit unfair. I am an EV owner. I had my EV for 6 months now and never had to use a fast charger (except for a few weeks while I was waiting for a charger to be installed at my house”. I wake up with a full battery each morning which gives me 200+ miles of range. That is plenty for being “out and about”. Fast chargers are really for road trips and urban areas where a private charger is not an option. I do agree that the infrastructure could be better (plus I am not familiar with where he lives), but an EV is really easy and pleasant to live with if you have an at home charger.
Thanks for the comment. If you watched to the end of the video I said exactly that 👍
That’s fair. As an EV enthusiast do appreciate non-niche UA-camrs making videos on EV. Good video. Just get protective sometimes. Thank you for featuring the e-tron and hope you make more videos on EVs in the future.
204 mile range! Madness. That price and only that rang.. It's only for short range trips. I have a petrol now that isn't super economic but I can do over 500km easily. My previous diesel did close to 1000km on a tank. The flexibility is just not there and yet they want you to buy them..
And check the price - he didn't state it so as not to shock the viewer.
I stated the price in my review video 👍
When was the last time you drove 500km in one trip?
The BMW charging systems is very good as I found with the i3. The charge systems are shown on the satnav system along with details about the station (if it is working , power output, number of plugs, number in use) and can do an 80% charge in 40 minutes at the rapid charge stations 50kw. I agree completely about the planning thing you need to allow a bit of extra time. I can see for a longer trip it being really good drive from rapid charge station to another on the way to your destination and have have an hours break. Like you said if you were An owner you would have a fast charger at home it’s just remembering to come home and plug the car in the same way you do your mobile. I would say great review but you must get board with too many nice compliments 👏
There are a few people who don't like what I've said 😂
There are a few comments 😂 I only found out about this stuff after sitting down with the guys from chandlers and talking about living with an EV, once you know what you are doing it’s not too bad but I know the challenges of trying to do this amount of research with every new car
The most important message- it takes time to put electricity into a EV and that's the issue.
Goes very well when I'm asleep......
Yep 👍
@@rvo8915 Lets say you have a Golf E, they do around 100 miles and they cost £35,000, you want to drive from lets say, Derby to Dover to catch a ferry to go on holiday...................go on, i'm all ears. What car do you drive.
@Rob Beard You bought the wrong car for the wrong purpose.........a 100 mile EV is not made to go on long drive holiday trips.
It is possible of course, but then you need to plan some fast charging on the way.
I don't go on holiday with our Nissan Leaf 24kW, it is simply not designed for that, but the whole year round it is perfect for commuting and small trips around the area.
And if we need to go further, a fast charge under way you must accept and that is no problem, but for long holiday trips out of the country it would be the wrong choice for me.
With a model 3, kona or nero it wouldn't be a problem.............
I stopped watching when you said you need to plan with an EV... not for that kind of stuff. Always make sure you're connected properly. An owner would have a wallbox charger.
Why didn't you install the home charger before the car was delivered???
Wanted to see more about the Audi. Not what dumb EV owners do. :)
I said to that too 🤔
That is not financially realistic for a 5 day test. My full review is a separate video...
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You don't even need to have it installed, I use my plug for my range/stove or clothes dryer.
It’s true, an owner would have some kind of high powered charger at home which could fill her up in 5/6 hours but THERE ARE usually an enormous amount of 50kw chargers (level 2) just about everywhere which will fill up the car in about 45 minutes to 1h30.
The car is the winner of this video, everything else can be fixed, really enjoyed your video.
Exactly 👍
Watching while nursing toothache like the pain of looking for a recharge 😄
LOL 😂
The not plugging-in part negates a large section of this video. Should have just edited it out completely and shown another day. Comes across as misleading when you talk about planning after that point.
I disagree. I was a simple mistake I am sure many people have made, but had a huge impact on my plans for the week 🤔
Love the video. Being a Tesla owner you made the mistake of no home charger. Tesla’s SuC is unbeatable and I think more convenient than fuelling up.
Tesla’s technology is beyond anything else currently...by a long way.
Power is also unrivalled unless you have a Bugatti. Even then a Tesla destroys it in the wet.
Borrow a Tesla for a week with a home charger and you’ll never want to go back to an ICE.
Even basic cruise control, which is all I have is a godsend when going through those smart motorway works. Set and forget 👌
Absolutely, but amazing the car adjusts the speed for you based on the road signs 👍
As a Tesla Model S owner (5 years 80K miles) i appreciate your honest review and a briefe look at EV owning life which i can confirm. Yes just as we plug our mobile in at night we plug our EVs in. And at any time my Tesla phone app tells me what the car is doing, basically topping up for £5! Your right the knowledge that every day you have a "full tank" 250+ miles is something you get used to and with the Tesla infrastructure if you travel long distance guess what there is always an on route rapid (and in my case free) supercharger and the car knows hows many bays are empty (ive never had to que). The public network is not as good but getting better. As an EV convert I also ride the Zero DSR so when Im on the bike the Tesla charges from my solar (free) and when im in the car the bike does the same.
Sound to good to be true?
Running the 3 pin granny cable over a long extension cable is not recommended due to the increased resistance over the cable length. It can make the plug very hot at the socket, worst case it will melt the plug.
As long as the cable is within its current rating no problem. But I agree it's not a very good solution especially if the user forgets to uncoil it.
You could have had a cheeky charge at mclaren, i could live with an ev day to day as i have a driveway and garage for charging but what would you do if you live in a terraced street with on road parking
You won't be able to own a EV, only the rich!
Another thing you touched on Pete, infrastructure absolutely correct, there is very little and yes it causes anxiety. I can also see people waiting to charge their cars at stations,because it takes to long.
There is more infrastructure than you think, there’s more charging stations than fuel stations
This video is very informative, it reinforces the importance of "think before you buy" Of course some people will forget about the importance of planning ahead with new technology and management of time, and the odd misshap of an incorrect plug placement.But People who want to buy a new or used EV will watch this video and take note. People who hate EV technology will continue to be dismissive of educational and informative articles such as this video. I admit that I am not sure I could live with an EV, as the charging facilities are so few in my area. And time isn't on my side most days. But as was mentioned, the EV technology will gain momentum in the coming years and I'm sure charging facilities will be wide spread, and home charging stations will become more powerful and lessen the potential burden of owning an EV. If "They" produce an EV that incorporates the sounds of my VW R32, I might just be on the road to EV conversion....maybe.
Its not your area you need public charging points in, you really need them in a radius of between 80 - 120 miles from your home, assuming you have off street parking.
Sometimes when my destination is in a remote area I'll top up when I'm 100 miles out so I can get back to that charger.
I just jump in my Tesla Model S and drive to Bangor and back to Woking without issues. I stop for 15 mins at Warwick and charge while getting a tea. Then 30 mins at Warrington get a drink and eat something then to Bangor. Collect son and stuff from Uni digs and the back with similar pattern. No issues or planning needed. Also I have to travel to Manchester from Woking on business and dont givw it a second thought. Stop twice at service stations for comfort break and tea top up and charge - 15 mins max- when I get home I have over 40% range left. I also have a home charger of 7kw and use when needed, but get free Tesla SuC usage. My range varies depending on route, temperature and how I drive. Recently I was getting 330 miles to the charge, around 226kwh per mile when motorway driving. So my experience of owning an EV, particularly a Tesla, has been great. Also bonus is I get free charging at SuC and get 45p per business mile so also find it pays for itself. 😊 But even without this gain, the experience is great!!
A very level review and I can sympathise with it. I went electric in 2014, then back to ice in 2015 solely because the charging network back then was so poor it was near impossible and certainly impractical to run an electric car in rural Uk. Even when you got to a fast charger they were very unreliable back then.
Cheers 👍