Our job as doctors is NOT to affirm. It is to help, treat, heal, and educate our patients. Of course, all of the above rest on solid scientific research, which the proponents of these pseudo guidelines either don't understand or purposely replace with propaganda, indoctrination, and anti scientific activism.
It feels on purpose. I am interested if the doctors are organising? the tagline gender is a social construct has caught on but is not scientific, feels like the majority of people don’t have the education or knowledge to stand up to queer theory even though it doesn’t hold with reality
@@Oceanfoxy Yes, there are many organizations that are starting to protect and defend science and medicine. Unfortunately, it seems far more difficult in the US than elsewhere, due to a variety of reasons. For instance, the indoctrination process here is more intense and widespread. Then, there are things we as scientists are guilty of: We spend a lot of time in our lab doing research and presenting results in academic settings (which is good), but not enough time spreading this information to the general public. PR was never part of our job (or our ethical premises), but this has become increasingly important, due to the increasing misrepresentation of our work in the media. The other issue is an extreme lowering of the bar in the US education system, where even reading basic scientific papers has become an issue.
@@Oceanfoxy That, and people are so unwilling to be called "transphobes." My rejoinder at this point is, "show me specifically how I'm being a transphobe to be posing serious questions about their health and well-being? If I were a transphobe, I wouldn't bother. I sent the GETA (Gender Exploratory Therapy ASSN web site to colleagues. One of them really pushed back and asked for data, which I provided. She said she thought it would be a long time before therapists in the US would be receptive. The belief is strong. Also Aaron's comment about using the word "providers" is on point.
@@calmon-ground962 And when you demand specificity, you will be called out for perpetuating the patriarchal system that denies the lived experiences of marginalized folx and whatever the latest feminist jargon insult is. It's impossible to reason with those who reach conclusions by denying rationality. The SJW/ gender activist mindset is firmly entrenched in the universities and needs excision, not talk therapy
@@davidtomasi It's not just that the bar has been lowered, although that is undoubtedly true in the UK. Students have been taught to reject studies that might not support their ideals, and cite studies that do, without even reading the papers. It's an anti-intellectual movement. In Cambodia, first they killed the dissidents. After a time they killed anyone with eyeglasses, as being able to read was considered counter-revolutionary.
I'm an occupational therapist who has worked with at least a thousand patients who have had knee replacements. The comparison of having a knee replacement to having these gender surgeries is a false dichotomy. Frequently, when people have knee replacements, it is due to osteoarthritis. Sometimes the cartilage is completely worn away and the bones of the knee joint are rubbing together, which is physically painful. As of now, to my knowledge, there is no way to regenerate the knee cartilage. So for some, the option is to either live the rest of their life in pain walking with a cane or mobilizing with a wheelchair or have knee replacement surgery. Knee replacement surgery is painful and there can be complications but the outcomes are generally good if you strictly follow the rehab procedures. Patients who are obese are encouraged to lose weight and sometimes if a patient loses weight, they can avoid the surgery because they are putting less pressure on their joints thereby preserving the cartilage. Surgeons will try to delay knee replacement surgery for as long as possible, especially if the patient is young (in their 40's, 50's or 60's). The reason being that younger adults will generally need a revision in 15-20 years because the mechanical knee joint eventually wears out. Some surgeons also screen their patients because if they are obese or aren't motivated to perform the rehab post surgery, they won't perform the operation. Contrast this to gender affirming care, which is elective surgery on healthy tissues of the body (breasts, sex organs, etc). Most people who have knee replacements do so as a last resort. My research has led me to believe that top and bottom surgery on teens and young people is performed relatively quickly (within 2 years if the patient elects to do so), especially if the patient is over 18. My guess is the complication rate from top and bottom surgeries is higher than a knee replacement, but I don't know that for sure. Sorry for the long comment but this comparison doesn't make sense.
Your knowledge has now been updated on knee cartilage: DMPI faculty member Virginia Kraus at Duke University. In 2019, her team discovered a pattern of regeneration based on the location of cartilage in the human body. High level regeneration was found in the ankles, moderate level in the knee, and low in the hips. This pattern was referred to as "our inner salamander," highlighting the fact that certain animals, like salamanders, can regenerate lost limbs. The goal of the research is to find a mechanism to boost this regeneration process in order to prevent, slow, or reverse arthritis. In the meantime, it's suggested that weight-bearing exercise, which causes synovial fluid to circulate, can help keep our joints strong and healthier. Side note: Reverse or backward walking appears to have several potential benefits for the knees. In a study involving children with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis and anterior cruciate ligament injury, it was found that those who exercised through backward walking had improved balance and stability, as well as enhanced gait parameters and muscle strength. Reverse walking can be a beneficial exercise for the lower body and overall body movement, improving balance and stability. The muscles used during reverse walking are largely the same as when walking forward. However, due to the opposite direction of movement, the body adjusts and uses different muscles to maintain balance, primarily the hamstrings, glutes, and calves. In terms of knee pain, there are a few potential causes when walking backward, such as osteoarthritis in the knee and meniscal tears, conditions that lead to the breakdown or damage of the knee cartilage, causing pain, stiffness, and swelling. Backward walking on a treadmill could be beneficial for knee pain as it can help stretch the muscles and tendons around the knee joint, which can be useful if they're tight or inflamed. Additionally, backward walking puts less stress on the knee joint, which can be helpful if dealing with knee pain or injury. It also helps strengthen the muscles around the knee, potentially preventing further pain or injury.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. I have been researching the sources of this ideology and it seems to come from 3 very riche men. Two get turned on by dressing like women and one works with robots and wants to combine humans and robot parts. By indoctrinating a generation and disassociating them from their bodies, it is not a far stretch to combine human parts and robotic ones. These men are donating millions to very poor schools and hospitals and all they have to do is push this ideology. It is So sick and twisted and being done right before our eyes.
Such a good question to ask how do we stop “cisgender” people from incorrectly assuming they are trans in an affirmation only model. Especially cos “if you think you’re trans you are!” But if you detransition then “you were never trans”…. So which one is it hmmm…
And you care why? Do you understand the term "codependency"? Get back in your own lane and mind your own business. I'll bet you've never met a trans person in your whole narrow little life.
Literally no one is trans. We just have people with insane mental health issues and body dysmorphias that run so deep and far folks mutilate themselves ....
Also, cisgender itself is an assumption and invented to make people with gender dysphoria feel better about themselves. Gender identity is like the concept of a soul, it can't be measured so there's no evidence to suggest everyone just has one that is either aligned or not aligned with sex. None of it makes sense, most people don't have euphoria about the fact that they are either female or male, and there's nothing there to align with sex, and why are we assuming gender identity needs to align with anything in the first place. It's all bs and sadly has been forced into what are supposed to be scientific fields.
A medical diagnosis and treatment plan comes with physician accountability and liability but affirmation makes the "patient" liable for what happens to them.
I am a physical therapist. I can say that Knee replacement regret typically comes from the patient not fully going through the proper physical therapy to get the desired results.
The fact that 1000 people had the funds to attend says a lot. In my industry, our annual conference was down to about 500 from the normal 1000 because our industry is doing shit right now. Clearly, there’s a lot of money exchanging hands.
These doctors who mangle them and then leave them abandoned are some of the people I wish I could have a few moments alone with. No one deserves this sort of treatment 😢
Technically we do have gendered pronouns but they only show up in written Chinese. Anyways I was in a new student introduction thing many years ago and half of the chinese students just said any pronouns (I said any pronouns but “it”, now looking back we all might have just accidentally came out as trans), the other half said their own gendered pronouns but was very confused and was like “I thought you guys knew your own language”. 😂
Hearing about how they're actively and explicitly trying to find ways to experiment on severely autistic children made me cry as I'm on the spectrum myself. Do they not hear themselves? Are they truly just evil?
That was one of the most vile and disturbing ideas I've heard of them, if not the most. Such a cruel idea, downright evil, there's no other words for it. It's hard to believe there people who would even come up with such ideas and just casually talk about it. That's some Mengele type "medicine".
Damn, at the end this is one of the emotionally most chilling, the saddest calmversations so far. These suicide statistics from the Netherlands. Where it all began, for minors.
Don't recall meeting Aaron, but Eliza is a fave, so he gets high marks for appearing with her 😺The whole idea of "Gender Affirming Care" is antithetical to genuine care. One does not go to a therapist or doctor to simply "affirm" an ailment or condition he / she believes to be the case. Likewise, it is absolutely NOT the therapists or doctors role to simply do so, because he / she has taken an oath to provide care not affirmation! If that person IS found to have this condition, it is then that therapists _obligation_ to seek a cure or at least manage it in a responsible manner. As it stands now, these "Gender Affirming" doctors / therapists, apply their own personal bias and do that person an absolutely GRAVE injustice. if it turns out that after at minimum a few years of good faith attempts to relieve this person of gender confusion, it is at THAT point, when hormones "may" be considered.... NEVER short of 18 yo! . As it stands now, these often mid-pubescent boys, but mostly girls, visit this "Gender Affirming" care already convinced of the need to take hormones and these "doctors" simply ask... "how large a dose would you like to start?". This is an act of not only HORRENDOUS abuse of their power, but will lead to a higher number of circumstances, in which self-delete is under consideration 🤬 . PS> 100% irrelevant to the topic at hand. How long until we see the word "therapist" under attack for being patriarchal oppression? 🤔
In regards to your last paragraph, kitty. I'm not sure what you mean. The Freudian thing? Peterson? Can you explain some more? Maybe unrelated, but... It's weird, but I can remember some psychiatric trends from the 80s and 90s...past lives, repressed memories of surviving satanic cults, multiple personality disorder...whether they were debunked or went out of style, I don't recall any apologies from therapists for fanning the flames. I suspect today's mistakes will similarly be dropped into a memory hole.
@@liberality .. and exactly HOW do we or ANYONE know it is "right" when what the person is experiencing is 100% ABSOLUTELY AND WITHOUT ANY POSSIBLE QUESTION... a psychological issue? . This person WAS born as female or male (fraction of % are intersex), yet "feels" like their body does not match their mind. This is the very definition of a psychological disorder and that person needs to DEEPLY explore why he / she feels this way, so therapy (of some type) is required. There have been an estimated 117 billion people born on this earth. Is it reasonable to think that we have some 20% of people in the last 10 years who "identify" as something OTHER than straight? . For every trans person of 20 years and still 100% happy with his / her decision to go on HRT or surgery, I will show you a Jazz Jennings, ShapeShifter or the countless others I have seen. Each and EVERY ONE was 1000% convinced he / she "needed" the above to feel happy and guess what..? . Had I a magic wand, I would make it a guaranteed prison sentence of 10 years for ANY person (licensed or otherwise) to provide HRT / surgery for the EXPLICIT goal of transition to ANY person under the age of 18 yo... FULL STOP! . Let these people become full adults an LEARN what it is to be in the world, before we play God and try to "spare" them that experience. That experience is what makes a person an actual unique soul. I could go on and on and on pushing back against the objective insanity of the trans activist cult. . Have a nice day, Liberally :)
When do they start affirming anorexia and cutting? Yeah you know you do look a little large... let's make a diet plan with less calories... Yeah things really are as bad as you think and maybe worse... here's a knife.
@@NinjaKittyBonks People marvel at the _plasticity_ of the human mind, in contrast to animals that are far more instinctive than cognitively driven. Sometimes that plasticity can cause problems, in the form of delusional beliefs, low self esteem which is negative self image, negative angry hateful hyper critical beliefs about oneself, negative mean angry hyper-critical internal dialogue. Other thought patterns that are incongruent with reality or exaggerated obsession over real or imaginary flaws. A good therapist, cognitive therapy, or even 12-step introspection, or other methods, can be employed to help manage cognitive and emotional disorders. A gray foggy area exists between emotion, cognition, and what people call spiritual or spirit. There's no tangible scientific evidence of spirits but humans have aspects that could be identified as such. We can understand terms like broken spirit or happy spirit without embracing magical beliefs. Likewise, emotions aren't visible can be noted, measured, catalogued, and discussed, in a manner that achieves some clarity. I think Spirit or soul concepts that were once completely foreign to me can also be clarified, including for agnostics. I personally embarked on a 12-step journey, which I ended up shaping and modifying over months and years, as I gained more understandings about myself. I gradually gained an ability to address my unique variety of fears, plus shame and self-hatred about those fears. I was able to re-evaluate my history. No 12-step person or therapist told me that THE SOLUTION to emotions caused by irrational and harmful fears and beliefs, plus broken or unhealthy social relationships, was ingesting more alcohol and drugs to anesthetize my mind. Trans concepts contain a lot of magical beliefs, while current Trans therapies aim to address mental, emotional, and spiritual disorders _by treating the physical body as plastic_ instead of addressing mental plasticity and reshaping the mind. Literally called plastic surgery. Sometimes chosen defiantly. I see commonality between the obsession with body modification to feel better about oneself and maybe feel some relief, with the sub-rational or emotion-driven obsession to ingest alcohol, opioids, benzos, or other mood altering chemicals, with temporary results of mood changes, but which become less effective over time, and in which what we call substance abuse turns against people who get caught in a spiral of greater obsession in and reliance on mood altering chemicals. These can become *increasingly self-destructive* over time, in place of providing even partial relief. That's relatively minor surgical fixing when, for example, people choose to go under the scalpel to reshape a nose, rather than accept the nose shape that nature gave them. I believe that this exercise in vanity won't fix the underlying shame which led to the decision to have the surgery, but it's a relatively minor attempt. It is not removing one's entire nose to spite one's face. Breast reduction can help back problems. I don't know if some doctors would say that training in posture and exercise can solve problems better than breast reduction. Breast enlargement is more similar to nose reshaping, more about vanity and shame over a belief in inadequate breast side, or other feminine inadequacy, rather than being a genuine physical bodily problem. No one would begrudge or question a person having an unsightly non-standard benign tumor cut off. All of these are FAR less radical, and mostly more rational, surgical interventions, when compared to radical Trans surgery, and hormonal treatments on healthy children and teens who are suffering from mental and emotional anxiety and obsessions about gender or sex.
Benjamin, you're a wonderful interviewer and Eliza is incredibly perceptive and conveys information and ideas very articulately. You were amazingly patient with Aaron, who is a good soul but really verbally skittish and hard to follow. Still, it's always great to hear first hand accounts from insiders who were at important events irl. KUTGW. (keep up the good work😊)
I think Aaron's response could be a combination of testosterone affecting her brain, hey cognitive dissonance about the transitioning process and get unresolved feelings about why she did it. I remember a psychologist talking about cult survivors saying when patients struggle to articulate themselves smoothly when they've not processed trauma. That's what her response made me think about.
@@sheilaoreilly6826 I think you may have something. There's videos that share the pain that is felt when surgeries and testosterone cause endless physical problems, like her constant infections and other stuff. It's gotta be tough because detransing is no picnic either, so it becomes "If I knew then what I know now.. '' ..?
Hmmm... I didn't have much trouble following Aaron, I think he was just full of nervous energy. I just read one of Aaron's essays and the writing was very clear to me.
Disagree, in this particular case. :) That’s just the way Aaron speaks - I sometimes do the same. I recognize the speech pattern from children (of both sexes) who stutter a bit. It’s the sound of “brain running faster than verbal expression”, IMHO
Aaron has let go of almost all the cognitive dissonance that comes along with transgender, but she still allows herself a measure of protection from the worst of her regret. The physical effects are such that she can't return to her life as a woman, which is what she wants. Aaron, if you read this, apologies for the armchair psychoanalysis, and thank you for being so generous in sharing your thoughts. We are both human, and I just seek to understand.
The therapy to assist him would not have been to further “compartmentalise” but rather to use something like “Ego State” therapy in combination with EMDR to track back to the dissociative state caused by trauma that was the root of her discomfort or rejection of her body. This therapy seeks to address the different parts of the person which need to be to reintegrated into a new whole, by identifying the pivotal points of major impact and then properly processing them through EMDR.
4:00 I suspect the reason why Aaron was removed from the event, even when using the correct language, is that within the ideology it is not possible for a 'cisgender' child to be transitioned by mistake. All children, supposedly being polymorphously perverse in Freudian terms, are proto-transgender, or 'eggs' in the language of the activists. Hence the emphasis on story hour and other entry points into early childhood education. In their world, heteronormativity is the enemy precisely because it constrains the child's potential. To be a cisgender adult is to have failed to develop queerly.
I just cannot believe ANYONE would unironically argue that non-verbal autistic child can consent to ANY medical intervention, even less that they can do it through fucking ass drawings. This clown world is not longer getting laughs from me.
I really appreciate all the perspectives in this episode, especially on what we do going forward. It's easy to feel overwhelmed when the debate has become so toxic. As a mental health provider, I'm constantly thinking about how to navigate these discussions without losing my job and hearing perspectives like these is helpful.
Non-verbal autistic CHILDREN!!! Experimental mutilation. And tax dollars are paying for this..and the lifelong medical bills. THIS IS MADNESS! Thank you both for attending these conferences.
A note on the word terf- it’s used on a range of women including those who have any sort of question, boundary, etc or want to have a conversation on how to find a solution that doesn’t take away rights from women--all the way to the people who completely disagree and think it is a scourge on society. People with any views or thoughts that don’t specifically and vehemently “affirm” are “terfy ” and even something as simple as asking questions in the “wrong language “ has resulted in myself ans many others being blocked banned silenced and essentially removed from any conversation about this, including its affect on women’s rights. In short, TERF May once have referred to people directly targeting trans “thought “ as wrong and dangerous (always perceived as an attack by TRAs)…but at this point it refers to literally anyone who has any sort of question opinion or thought that is not in line with the Ideological Demands
34:35. "it ALWAYS changes, based on circumstances..." This is true of EVERY aspect of "gender" ideology; They have "answers", IF you only ever focus on ONE specific question, at a time... But when you look at ALL those answers, together, you get a bizarre, self-contradictary mess. And this is true on the most basic, foundational level, in ways that an 11yo kid could understand. -"Gender is just a social construct" ie. In the "nature vs nurture" paradigm, your "gender" is 100% nurture; Merely an arbitrary social concept, entirely learned, and dependent on WHICH society/era you're raised in. -But trans folx are "born this way". They are "born in the Wrong Body". ie "gender" is (NOW) 100% 'NATURE', in the "nature vs nurture" paradigm. It is (NOW) innate from birth, and hardwired to the brain (REGARDLESS of what society you're born into) These are BOTH two of the most foundational ideas in "gender" ideology; Yet they are 100% mutually contradictary; It is LOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for both to be true, at once. But these impossible claims are BOTH are constantly appealed to, as if they were established, obvious, evidence based fact... When in reality, NEITHER claim has the tinyest shred of empirical evidence. In fact, "just a social construct" is an explicit attempt to DENY any burden of evidence (How can you EXPECT a "mere social construct" to have empirical evidence?!?) Yet believers in "gender", from brainwashed 15yo's in leggings, up to esteemed doctors who are considered 'experts" will appeal to BOTH these mutually-contradictary, 100% evidence-free dogmas, minutes apart, without even ACKNOWLEDGING the unresolvable conflict between them. And the whole ideology is rife with such conflicts... -How can "just a social construct" EVER justify ANY form of body-modification?!? ESPECIALLY in unconsenting children? -How can you claim to NOT be conflating evidence-based sex, with the evidence-free assertion of "gender", when changing "genders" grants access to organizations, which exist ONLY due to the PHYSIOLOGICAL differences between the SEXES, like males being allowed in women's/girls' sports?! And maybe the biggest, most concerning contradiction- HOW CAN YOU JUSTIFY TREATING "TRANSGENDERISM" LIKE A MEDICAL ISSUE, WHEN THERE'S A 100% ABSENCE OF *ANY SCRAP* OF EMPIRICAL, PHYSIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE, FOR *ANY* RELATED CLAIMS?!? It is a joke. The ENTIRE ideology is a house of cards, built on sand, with no foundations. Seriously, flat earth or astrology are more valid as "evidence-based science" than "gender" is... The dictionary definition of "PSEUDO-SCIENCE" is "a belief system which doesn't adhere to scientific method, but which is treated AS IF it was science..." (A kind of "trans-science", I guess...) "Gender" has ZERO empirical evidence. ZERO mechanisms for falsifiability. It can't even give meanjngful, evidence-based definitions of key terms like "woman", "man", or even "gender" itself... Yet it's used as the SOLE justifcation for THOUSANDS of (surgical, chemical or other) """medical procedures""" annually... If that doesn't qualify "gender" as "pseudo-science", then NOTHING is "pseudo-science"...
Mr Menno observed how activists like to claim that trans people existed for thousands of years without noticing that, IF it is true, they obviously managed well without the need to change their physical bodies. They "unalive" themselves only since these treatments are available.
“Gender” only refers to words in romantic languages where they have male and female versions of “the” for different objects. (Ex La chaise-since chair is female in French) It was only applied to people by Dr Money who abused boys in his “gender” experiments.
This is true of EVERY aspect of "gender" ideology; They have "answers", IF you only ever focus on ONE specific question, at a time... But when you look at ALL those answers, together, you get a bizarre, self-contradictary mess. This is one of main similarities we can see between political ideologies and religions. :)
Wait wait... unbuttoning onesies to look like a dress... why does this sound familiar? Is that what Jazz Jennings munchhausen mom wrote in her journal when Jazz was 2?
Excellent job of presenting the flaws in gender "affirming" care for children. May I make a suggestion? So many similar and excellent videos are often 1-2 hours in length. As a natal female baby boomer (who has never raised children), and who is struggling to understand how to best counteract the pernicious gender "affirming" ideology targeting children, can you please publish an outline for this video of the pertinent points (or at least an English transcript)? Guys, I'm on your side but I need talking points! Having listened to the stories of a number of adults who have been very satisfied with socially, hormonally and medically transitioning, I realize that it can indeed be the right treatment for some AS LONG AS they are adults (at least 18-25 or older). However, the exponential explosion to push transition onto children under 18 is a cult that is medically, scientifically and morally wrong and, for the majority of confused teens, not supported by the evidence. My impression of the transitioning for children cult: this is the Emperor's New Clothes meets Lord of the Flies!
How will we cope with the religion/cult so many of them must and will be invested in for years to come or their lifetime? I see them in front of my door. Just today four or five females with green hair and some testosterone induced beards, some with mastectomy scars jumped up and down the street on their way to the tram station, on their way to be part of a rainbow parade in a 50k citizen city 50km west of the city of Vienna.
@@e.c.winner7252 but they will bother us / society and will try to legitimise their demise somehow lifelong... my uncreative suspicion is, we still would have to nod along the rest of their lifes without insight in the mistake they did fall victim to. The issue with that is, I think they are more in society than a regular obscure cult. And they set societal standards which will be really hard to roll back completely.
Re: Doctors as “Providers” and “Services.” These aren’t terms designed to hide the nature of gender medical procedures. They are industry standard superordinate categories for insurance billing purposes.
Provider vs Doctor: The word “Doctor” comes from the Latin root word “docere” - to teach. Simply stated, teaching and providing are different courses and have different methods and goals. I agree, part of this seems to be an abdication of responsibility on the part of mental health professionals and their societies/colleges/professional organizations, etc.
@@elegationvain thank you for saying and I hope the 💕 conveyed « said with soft voice ». Looking forward to all your out put from the Transgender Health Summit & following your podcasts & Twitter. And again thank you 🤗🤭
For quite some time now the “trans movement”, especially the focus on gender confusing children, has reminded me of the 1980/90s Satanic sexual abuse daycare hysteria. “Therapists” played a significant role in the manner of questioning children with leading/guiding questions that elicited the answers the therapists wanted. This hysteria became a social contagion with many lives ruined by false accusations. During the same time period, “ therapists “ created the “Recovered (Repressed) Memory movement. Here, again, therapists were leading patients and ruining lives with false accusations. In review of the Recovered Memory Movement in 2005, it was deemed a catastrophe in the mental health field akin to the lobotomy era - ““With a few decades’ perspective, it’s clear this level of confidence led to disastrous results. In 2005 a Harvard psychology professor, Richard McNally, called the recovered memory movement “the worst catastrophe to befall the mental health field since the lobotomy era.” At the height of the controversy in 1994, I co-wrote a book, “Making Monsters,” on the topic with the sociologist Richard Ofshe. In writing it, we hoped to help stop the practice that was harming so many. We also wanted to create a historical record that might help prevent the profession from going down another rabbit hole.” “www.nytimes.com/2022/09/27/opinion/recovered-memory-therapy-mental-health.html Making Monsters-Amazon book description If you haven't heard of false memory syndrome and the controversy it engenders, you haven't seen a talk show recently. In the last decade, there has been a veritable explosion of cases in which (mostly) women in therapy remember being sexually abused by their parents. In many instances, the memories escalate, and the patients eventually exhibit symptoms of multiple personality disorder or recall being victims of satanic cults. Ofshe, a social psychologist, and Watters, a Mother Jones writer, examine this psychological phenomenon and offer two explanations for its current prevalence: either recovered-memory therapists have achieved a breakthrough in the understanding of the human mind, in which case much that is fundamental about our understanding of psychology will need to be reinterpreted, or the practice of uncovering repressed memories has been built into a pseudoscience by therapists who have created "an Alice-in-Wonderland world in which opinion, metaphor, and ideological preference substitute for objective evidence." Firmly supporting the latter view, the authors offer a thoughtfully written, restrained (even a bit dry), and generally persuasive examination of what false memory syndrome reveals about society as well as ourselves. Ilene Cooper The Wikipedia article regarding the daycare abuse hysteria specifically addresses the vulnerability of children and their susceptibility to leading and suggestive questioning tactics, and tactics of applying “peer pressure “ to persuade the children to provide the desired testimony. In curiosity I began searching for other therapists created “movements” and found something even more disturbing - social justice activism is embedded in the ideology of the counseling psychology ethos. Instead of psychologists and counselors seeking to help the patients in their care to better understand and cope in the reality of the world there is a culture of creating social contagion and mental dis-ease in vulnerable adults and children. Satanic sex abuse daycare hysteria Suggestibility of Children “Children are vulnerable to outside influences that can result in fabrication of testimony.[5] Their testimony can be influenced in a variety of ways. In an article published by the American Psychological Association and titled Jeopardy in the Courtroom: A Scientific Analysis of Children’s Testimony, by Maggie Bruck-a professor within the Division of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine-wrote that children incorporate aspects of the interviewer's questions into their answers, as an attempt to tell the interviewer what the child believes is being sought.[6] Studies also show that when adults ask children questions that do not make sense (such as: "is milk bigger than water?" or "is red heavier than yellow?"), most children will offer an answer, believing that there is an answer to be given, rather than understanding the absurdity of the question.[7] Furthermore, repeated questioning of children causes them to change their answers. This is because the children perceive the repeated questioning as a sign that they did not give the "correct" answer previously.[8] Children are also especially susceptible to leading and suggestive questions.[9] Research has found that, in the absence of being prompted, it is uncommon for children to make fictitious reports of sexual abuse.[10][11][12][13] And that conversely, it is not unusual for children to underreport abuse.[14][15][16] Interviewer bias also influences child testimony. When an interviewer has a preconceived notion as to the truth of the matter being investigated, the questioning is performed in a manner to extract statements that evidence these beliefs.[8] As a result, evidence that could disprove the belief is never sought by the interviewer. Additionally, positive reinforcement by the interviewer can taint child testimony. Often, such reinforcement is given to encourage a spirit of cooperation by the child, but impartiality can quickly end as the interviewer nods, smiles, or offers verbal encouragement to "helpful" statements.[8] Some studies show that when interviewers make reassuring statements to child witnesses, the children are more likely to fabricate stories of past events that never occurred.[17] Peer pressure also influences children to fabricate stories. Studies show that when a child witness is told that his or her friends have already testified that certain events occurred, the child witness was more likely to create a matching story.[18] The status of the interviewer can also influence a child's testimony, because the more authority an interviewer has, such as a police officer, the more likely a child is to comply with that person's apparent agenda.[19]” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-care_sex-abuse_hysteria
"it's still life-saving, even if people die". totally not a kult. and where else have we heard this type of thinking, as if there's some kinda net benefit to a treatment even though so many (maybe all) people are harmed
There is no "do no harm" in this model. If the patient wants to be harmed, you harm them, because the patient knows what kind of harm, oops I mean gender, they need.
There is a regret with nearly ALL surgeries, no matter whether elective or not. Suspicious about SRS is that the regret is miraculously low, not that there is regret.
Once transgenderism is over as a massive viral youth fad, transition regret will absolutely EXPLODE. The courts will be jammed with lawsuits. Doctors, parents, teachers, and pro-trans activists who supported it will fear for their very lives. It's going to be intense for a few years.
It is actually a good thing that they are not calling the clients "patients". Referring to them as patients is the down-line effect of psychiatry treading on the medical establishment. In fact by not calling them patients, we can therefore withhold "treatment" without any ethical concerns, as none of this is in any way medically indicated. It is a welcome admission on their part imo.
Psychiatry is part of the medical establishment and has been for at least a hundred years. You cannot become a psychiatrist without first qualifying as a medical doctor. Hence 'patients'.
@@liberality I fully recognize that psychiatry is part of the medical establishment, and how one becomes a psychiatrist. It is not however, a true branch of medicine as they are not treating pathologies, but personal issues people have in living. Psychiatric "diseases" are voted into and out of existence, not discovered via examination of the body. Society's designation of aberrant behavior as illness is just the latest excuse now that religious explanations are no longer available.
It started when I thought to myself seeing things out in the world man this feels like a cult. Then as I have been deep diving realizing yeah this is actually a cult that gained systematic power.
When the first Lobotomized students do the research the ice-pick science will finally be settled. Until then, keep lobotomizing those hysteric persons everywhere, you can drag them on a public stage. Everybody can see how quiet and docile a patient gets as soon as a skilled professional gets to work. *RELAX!*
Only lawyers have the scope to legally sign off on if someone has competence. Doctors do not have this ability, they can be used as a tool in the assessment to build a case for or against competence.
I'm not transgender (maybe non binary) but I'd like to give a description to what it may feel like: when one looks in the mirror the reflection looking back at them is not recognized by that person. It does not correlate with the mental image that one has of themselves.
So many excellent points. What doesn’t make ethical sense in medical practice is surgery to remove or alter healthy body parts. If a patient is healthy no provider should do unnecessary interventions, if they do the microscope should be held to the reasons why.
It makes me really depressed that we’re castrating people, especially kids. Some men get really bitter about getting circumcised. I can’t imagine how they’ll feel when they lose all of it. I imagine many women will feel the same way. This is one of the most horrific things our culture permits to occur and for what? Money? Power? Back pats? Upvotes and likes?
1:27:59 re: "gender dysphoria" vs "gender incongruence" (lol. This constant stream of euphemisms). It also seems like "gender dysphoria" is something that ONLY people who are overtly trans-IDing (or at least questioning if they may be "trans", I guess) would relate to. But the way "gender INCONGRUENCE" was described, it seems like that would capture ANY self-conciousness about ANY aspect of the body, which ANYONE may have. I'm pretty sure that NOBODY is 100% perfectly happy with their body/appearance- We ALL have insecurities about "Geez, I'm getting a spare tyre!! I really should lose weight", or "I've always hated that my nose is too big", or "Dang, I'm going bald/getting wrinkles/getting fat/whatever". It sounds like "gender incongruence" could much more easily twist those normal insecurities, into "gender-identity issues", than the older term "gender dysphoria"- (Whether to steer people into the "gender-affirming care" meat-grinder. Or to inflate stats. Or whatever other motivation)
Do please consider a fourway splitscreen when there's just three of you - obvious contender for the fourth screen would be a cat or birdfeeder cam. The two-guests on top, Benjamin-rectangle below looks like a scary clown face.
The prob with that diamond metaphor is you can sell it on and get the money back. It's true of both diamonds and transition that their value is inflated though.
A bypass operation is lifesaving but it's still elective. If they've scheduled the surgery, it's elective. If they're doing lifesaving, emergency surgery on a person who was brought to the hospital unconscious, that would be non-elective.
My suggestion is to focus on the ethics and principles of science and medicine. Those rules were developed because of past things like this and people who dealt with accidental/deliberate fraudulent treatment developed those rules based on their experience. Those principles have also been adopted in many laws. When the Woke/Trans stuff collapses, it will be clear they violated all those principles and everyone will wonder why they were allowed to get away with violating them.
It won't be too hard. “Epic Systems Corporation, or Epic, is an American privately held healthcare software company. According to the company, hospitals that use its software held medical records of 78% of patients in the United States and over 3% of patients worldwide in 2022.[4]” They are huge into LGBT organizations.
No therapists would set out to help you to continue to compartmentalise, the whole premise of mental wellbeing is integration of various parts of the self!
1:32:58 "It's such a great, noble cause.. which is just currently poorly-served by the evidence..." Lol. Well, I'm sure they'll figure out some way to 'adjust' this obviously flawed, faulty evidence, in order to solve that issue...
Okaaaay…. So what (the AF) is the role of psychologists in this new client-facilitating scenario…? It seems to me they’ve washed their hands of responsibility to provide expert care (seeing that any 3 year old is deemed to know more than them) to the point that they have no further role in trans health care…
Remember when sex was biology and gender was identity and you were simply ignorant for not understanding the difference? This is what is now asked on a graduate questionnaire from Northwestern University: What is you gender identity: agender cisgender man cisgender woman Genderqueer or gender fluid Non-binary Transgender man Transgender woman Mine is not in the options listed Prefer not to answer What is your sexual identity or orientation? asexual bisexual gay or lesbian straight/heterosexual queer other prefer not to answer
please explain whats the difference between - fluid, queer and non-binary ? I just understand that these are not "transgender" - someone who is trying to change their gender. I just assume this is something like "not male and not female" but aside this I cannot understand specific difference between those 3 things. I've tried to guess it but without any success despite listening and watching to so many debates and lectures about these topics.
@@TallisKeeton 'fluid, queer and non-binary' generally mean that you coloured your hair to match your favourite unicorn plushie and you spend every conversation waiting for an opportunity to pounce on someone for not using your preferred pronoun.
@Benjamin A Boyce, would you talk to one Doctor Quentin Van Meter who is pediatric endocrinologist and someone who Worked with Doctor Money at the ground level. PLEASE TALK TO THIS MAN! please! I have tried to get Doctor Van Meter to be on the show with Buck angel or Blaire White.
@@BenjaminABoyce I do like when you get feisty, no shade Mr Boyce 😍. I just really thought Aaron was hitting on a really good point there. All your interviews are fantastic thank you for what you do ✌️
5:22 - Just word it differently next time: "My kid keeps insisting that they're cis, but everyone knows they're not. What can we do to convince them to undergo treatments they feels are unnecessary?"
9:15 giving the analysis before the narrative, jumping around, giveaway for someone who needs help getting in the groove of telling the story. Help him, host.....he really wants to just give the analysis, instead of the story THEN the analysis. Your audience wants to be able to analyze it too! We can't do it without the story. Narrative first, Then analysis.
Why does Aaron feel his reasons for transition are reasonable and healthy (even though they sound opaque at best and disordered/dysfunctional at worst) but other trans people’s reasons aren’t? How can you laugh at non-binary females with beards and claim people like them need to be prevented from accessing medical transition bc they obviously have mental/behavioral stuff going on, but then describe your own reasons for transition as an avoidant coping mechanism for some sort of combo of psycho-sexual and body dysmorphic disorders? Pot meet kettle. What’s the reasoning here?
Our job as doctors is NOT to affirm. It is to help, treat, heal, and educate our patients. Of course, all of the above rest on solid scientific research, which the proponents of these pseudo guidelines either don't understand or purposely replace with propaganda, indoctrination, and anti scientific activism.
It feels on purpose. I am interested if the doctors are organising? the tagline gender is a social construct has caught on but is not scientific, feels like the majority of people don’t have the education or knowledge to stand up to queer theory even though it doesn’t hold with reality
@@Oceanfoxy Yes, there are many organizations that are starting to protect and defend science and medicine. Unfortunately, it seems far more difficult in the US than elsewhere, due to a variety of reasons. For instance, the indoctrination process here is more intense and widespread. Then, there are things we as scientists are guilty of: We spend a lot of time in our lab doing research and presenting results in academic settings (which is good), but not enough time spreading this information to the general public. PR was never part of our job (or our ethical premises), but this has become increasingly important, due to the increasing misrepresentation of our work in the media. The other issue is an extreme lowering of the bar in the US education system, where even reading basic scientific papers has become an issue.
@@Oceanfoxy That, and people are so unwilling to be called "transphobes." My rejoinder at this point is, "show me specifically how I'm being a transphobe to be posing serious questions about their health and well-being? If I were a transphobe, I wouldn't bother. I sent the GETA (Gender Exploratory Therapy ASSN web site to colleagues. One of them really pushed back and asked for data, which I provided. She said she thought it would be a long time before therapists in the US would be receptive. The belief is strong. Also Aaron's comment about using the word "providers" is on point.
@@calmon-ground962 And when you demand specificity, you will be called out for perpetuating the patriarchal system that denies the lived experiences of marginalized folx and whatever the latest feminist jargon insult is. It's impossible to reason with those who reach conclusions by denying rationality. The SJW/ gender activist mindset is firmly entrenched in the universities and needs excision, not talk therapy
@@davidtomasi It's not just that the bar has been lowered, although that is undoubtedly true in the UK. Students have been taught to reject studies that might not support their ideals, and cite studies that do, without even reading the papers. It's an anti-intellectual movement.
In Cambodia, first they killed the dissidents. After a time they killed anyone with eyeglasses, as being able to read was considered counter-revolutionary.
I'm an occupational therapist who has worked with at least a thousand patients who have had knee replacements. The comparison of having a knee replacement to having these gender surgeries is a false dichotomy. Frequently, when people have knee replacements, it is due to osteoarthritis. Sometimes the cartilage is completely worn away and the bones of the knee joint are rubbing together, which is physically painful. As of now, to my knowledge, there is no way to regenerate the knee cartilage. So for some, the option is to either live the rest of their life in pain walking with a cane or mobilizing with a wheelchair or have knee replacement surgery. Knee replacement surgery is painful and there can be complications but the outcomes are generally good if you strictly follow the rehab procedures. Patients who are obese are encouraged to lose weight and sometimes if a patient loses weight, they can avoid the surgery because they are putting less pressure on their joints thereby preserving the cartilage. Surgeons will try to delay knee replacement surgery for as long as possible, especially if the patient is young (in their 40's, 50's or 60's). The reason being that younger adults will generally need a revision in 15-20 years because the mechanical knee joint eventually wears out. Some surgeons also screen their patients because if they are obese or aren't motivated to perform the rehab post surgery, they won't perform the operation. Contrast this to gender affirming care, which is elective surgery on healthy tissues of the body (breasts, sex organs, etc). Most people who have knee replacements do so as a last resort. My research has led me to believe that top and bottom surgery on teens and young people is performed relatively quickly (within 2 years if the patient elects to do so), especially if the patient is over 18. My guess is the complication rate from top and bottom surgeries is higher than a knee replacement, but I don't know that for sure. Sorry for the long comment but this comparison doesn't make sense.
The complications are much higher and need always follow up suregeries and many rounds of antibiotics due to infections.
This cult is about gaslighting and outright lying
Your knowledge has now been updated on knee cartilage:
DMPI faculty member Virginia Kraus at Duke University. In 2019, her team discovered a pattern of regeneration based on the location of cartilage in the human body. High level regeneration was found in the ankles, moderate level in the knee, and low in the hips. This pattern was referred to as "our inner salamander," highlighting the fact that certain animals, like salamanders, can regenerate lost limbs. The goal of the research is to find a mechanism to boost this regeneration process in order to prevent, slow, or reverse arthritis. In the meantime, it's suggested that weight-bearing exercise, which causes synovial fluid to circulate, can help keep our joints strong and healthier.
Side note:
Reverse or backward walking appears to have several potential benefits for the knees. In a study involving children with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis and anterior cruciate ligament injury, it was found that those who exercised through backward walking had improved balance and stability, as well as enhanced gait parameters and muscle strength.
Reverse walking can be a beneficial exercise for the lower body and overall body movement, improving balance and stability. The muscles used during reverse walking are largely the same as when walking forward. However, due to the opposite direction of movement, the body adjusts and uses different muscles to maintain balance, primarily the hamstrings, glutes, and calves.
In terms of knee pain, there are a few potential causes when walking backward, such as osteoarthritis in the knee and meniscal tears, conditions that lead to the breakdown or damage of the knee cartilage, causing pain, stiffness, and swelling.
Backward walking on a treadmill could be beneficial for knee pain as it can help stretch the muscles and tendons around the knee joint, which can be useful if they're tight or inflamed. Additionally, backward walking puts less stress on the knee joint, which can be helpful if dealing with knee pain or injury. It also helps strengthen the muscles around the knee, potentially preventing further pain or injury.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
I have been researching the sources of this ideology and it seems to come from 3 very riche men. Two get turned on by dressing like women and one works with robots and wants to combine humans and robot parts. By indoctrinating a generation and disassociating them from their bodies, it is not a far stretch to combine human parts and robotic ones. These men are donating millions to very poor schools and hospitals and all they have to do is push this ideology. It is So sick and twisted and being done right before our eyes.
So true. Comparing it to the regret rate of another elective surgery--like breast augmentation, for example--seems to make more sense.
Such a good question to ask how do we stop “cisgender” people from incorrectly assuming they are trans in an affirmation only model. Especially cos “if you think you’re trans you are!” But if you detransition then “you were never trans”…. So which one is it hmmm…
We should probably start by not cutting off healthy body parts and sterilizing people
And you care why? Do you understand the term "codependency"? Get back in your own lane and mind your own business. I'll bet you've never met a trans person in your whole narrow little life.
Literally no one is trans. We just have people with insane mental health issues and body dysmorphias that run so deep and far folks mutilate themselves ....
Yeah it’s unfalsifiable
Also, cisgender itself is an assumption and invented to make people with gender dysphoria feel better about themselves. Gender identity is like the concept of a soul, it can't be measured so there's no evidence to suggest everyone just has one that is either aligned or not aligned with sex. None of it makes sense, most people don't have euphoria about the fact that they are either female or male, and there's nothing there to align with sex, and why are we assuming gender identity needs to align with anything in the first place. It's all bs and sadly has been forced into what are supposed to be scientific fields.
A medical diagnosis and treatment plan comes with physician accountability and liability but affirmation makes the "patient" liable for what happens to them.
I am a physical therapist. I can say that Knee replacement regret typically comes from the patient not fully going through the proper physical therapy to get the desired results.
The fact that 1000 people had the funds to attend says a lot. In my industry, our annual conference was down to about 500 from the normal 1000 because our industry is doing shit right now. Clearly, there’s a lot of money exchanging hands.
These doctors who mangle them and then leave them abandoned are some of the people I wish I could have a few moments alone with. No one deserves this sort of treatment 😢
How do we make Chinese people tell us their pronouns when there's no gender in their pronoun system? LOL
Technically we do have gendered pronouns but they only show up in written Chinese. Anyways I was in a new student introduction thing many years ago and half of the chinese students just said any pronouns (I said any pronouns but “it”, now looking back we all might have just accidentally came out as trans), the other half said their own gendered pronouns but was very confused and was like “I thought you guys knew your own language”. 😂
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@@bobatea5406 Chinese communicates the gender by the context and they are not confused at all on this reality.
Easy! Threaten them with hate crime charges. Trans Sharia Law.
Hearing about how they're actively and explicitly trying to find ways to experiment on severely autistic children made me cry as I'm on the spectrum myself. Do they not hear themselves? Are they truly just evil?
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They are after the billions this could bring.
And yes, they are very evil.
Yes, they are the epitome of evil.
Going along with medical “trends “ is a form of Evil. Good people doing nothing encourages Evil doings.
That was one of the most vile and disturbing ideas I've heard of them, if not the most. Such a cruel idea, downright evil, there's no other words for it. It's hard to believe there people who would even come up with such ideas and just casually talk about it. That's some Mengele type "medicine".
I am sooo touched.
Thank you Benjamin for your questions! Thank you all for your concentration and being patient with the cult believers!
Damn, at the end this is one of the emotionally most chilling, the saddest calmversations so far.
These suicide statistics from the Netherlands. Where it all began, for minors.
these people are voices that need to be heard
Aaron is awesome
Aaron *is* awesome. 😁 Highly recommend the Gender Dysphoria Alliance podcast; which another commenter mentioned.
You can have justice or you can have "social justice."
You can have care or you can have "gender affirming care."
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Don't recall meeting Aaron, but Eliza is a fave, so he gets high marks for appearing with her 😺The whole idea of "Gender Affirming Care" is antithetical to genuine care. One does not go to a therapist or doctor to simply "affirm" an ailment or condition he / she believes to be the case. Likewise, it is absolutely NOT the therapists or doctors role to simply do so, because he / she has taken an oath to provide care not affirmation! If that person IS found to have this condition, it is then that therapists _obligation_ to seek a cure or at least manage it in a responsible manner. As it stands now, these "Gender Affirming" doctors / therapists, apply their own personal bias and do that person an absolutely GRAVE injustice. if it turns out that after at minimum a few years of good faith attempts to relieve this person of gender confusion, it is at THAT point, when hormones "may" be considered.... NEVER short of 18 yo!
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As it stands now, these often mid-pubescent boys, but mostly girls, visit this "Gender Affirming" care already convinced of the need to take hormones and these "doctors" simply ask... "how large a dose would you like to start?". This is an act of not only HORRENDOUS abuse of their power, but will lead to a higher number of circumstances, in which self-delete is under consideration 🤬
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PS> 100% irrelevant to the topic at hand. How long until we see the word "therapist" under attack for being patriarchal oppression? 🤔
In regards to your last paragraph, kitty. I'm not sure what you mean. The Freudian thing? Peterson? Can you explain some more?
Maybe unrelated, but...
It's weird, but I can remember some psychiatric trends from the 80s and 90s...past lives, repressed memories of surviving satanic cults, multiple personality disorder...whether they were debunked or went out of style, I don't recall any apologies from therapists for fanning the flames. I suspect today's mistakes will similarly be dropped into a memory hole.
Therapists are already under attack for being 'gatekeepers' when they don't affirm immediately. If transition is a right then therapy is unnecessary.
@@liberality .. and exactly HOW do we or ANYONE know it is "right" when what the person is experiencing is 100% ABSOLUTELY AND WITHOUT ANY POSSIBLE QUESTION... a psychological issue?
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This person WAS born as female or male (fraction of % are intersex), yet "feels" like their body does not match their mind. This is the very definition of a psychological disorder and that person needs to DEEPLY explore why he / she feels this way, so therapy (of some type) is required. There have been an estimated 117 billion people born on this earth. Is it reasonable to think that we have some 20% of people in the last 10 years who "identify" as something OTHER than straight?
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For every trans person of 20 years and still 100% happy with his / her decision to go on HRT or surgery, I will show you a Jazz Jennings, ShapeShifter or the countless others I have seen. Each and EVERY ONE was 1000% convinced he / she "needed" the above to feel happy and guess what..?
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Had I a magic wand, I would make it a guaranteed prison sentence of 10 years for ANY person (licensed or otherwise) to provide HRT / surgery for the EXPLICIT goal of transition to ANY person under the age of 18 yo... FULL STOP!
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Let these people become full adults an LEARN what it is to be in the world, before we play God and try to "spare" them that experience. That experience is what makes a person an actual unique soul. I could go on and on and on pushing back against the objective insanity of the trans activist cult.
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Have a nice day, Liberally :)
When do they start affirming anorexia and cutting?
Yeah you know you do look a little large... let's make a diet plan with less calories...
Yeah things really are as bad as you think and maybe worse... here's a knife.
@@NinjaKittyBonks People marvel at the _plasticity_ of the human mind, in contrast to animals that are far more instinctive than cognitively driven.
Sometimes that plasticity can cause problems, in the form of delusional beliefs, low self esteem which is negative self image, negative angry hateful hyper critical beliefs about oneself, negative mean angry hyper-critical internal dialogue. Other thought patterns that are incongruent with reality or exaggerated obsession over real or imaginary flaws.
A good therapist, cognitive therapy, or even 12-step introspection, or other methods, can be employed to help manage cognitive and emotional disorders. A gray foggy area exists between emotion, cognition, and what people call spiritual or spirit. There's no tangible scientific evidence of spirits but humans have aspects that could be identified as such. We can understand terms like broken spirit or happy spirit without embracing magical beliefs.
Likewise, emotions aren't visible can be noted, measured, catalogued, and discussed, in a manner that achieves some clarity. I think Spirit or soul concepts that were once completely foreign to me can also be clarified, including for agnostics.
I personally embarked on a 12-step journey, which I ended up shaping and modifying over months and years, as I gained more understandings about myself. I gradually gained an ability to address my unique variety of fears, plus shame and self-hatred about those fears. I was able to re-evaluate my history.
No 12-step person or therapist told me that THE SOLUTION to emotions caused by irrational and harmful fears and beliefs, plus broken or unhealthy social relationships, was ingesting more alcohol and drugs to anesthetize my mind.
Trans concepts contain a lot of magical beliefs, while current Trans therapies aim to address mental, emotional, and spiritual disorders _by treating the physical body as plastic_ instead of addressing mental plasticity and reshaping the mind. Literally called plastic surgery. Sometimes chosen defiantly.
I see commonality between the obsession with body modification to feel better about oneself and maybe feel some relief, with the sub-rational or emotion-driven obsession to ingest alcohol, opioids, benzos, or other mood altering chemicals, with temporary results of mood changes, but which become less effective over time, and in which what we call substance abuse turns against people who get caught in a spiral of greater obsession in and reliance on mood altering chemicals. These can become *increasingly self-destructive* over time, in place of providing even partial relief.
That's relatively minor surgical fixing when, for example, people choose to go under the scalpel to reshape a nose, rather than accept the nose shape that nature gave them. I believe that this exercise in vanity won't fix the underlying shame which led to the decision to have the surgery, but it's a relatively minor attempt. It is not removing one's entire nose to spite one's face.
Breast reduction can help back problems. I don't know if some doctors would say that training in posture and exercise can solve problems better than breast reduction.
Breast enlargement is more similar to nose reshaping, more about vanity and shame over a belief in inadequate breast side, or other feminine inadequacy, rather than being a genuine physical bodily problem.
No one would begrudge or question a person having an unsightly non-standard benign tumor cut off.
All of these are FAR less radical, and mostly more rational, surgical interventions, when compared to radical Trans surgery, and hormonal treatments on healthy children and teens who are suffering from mental and emotional anxiety and obsessions about gender or sex.
I like the Aarons podcast it’s excellent. The Jamie Reed interview was excellent. Thanks for this interview. Very informative.
Benjamin, you're a wonderful interviewer and Eliza is incredibly perceptive and conveys information and ideas very articulately.
You were amazingly patient with Aaron, who is a good soul but really verbally skittish and hard to follow.
Still, it's always great to hear first hand accounts from insiders who were at important events irl.
KUTGW. (keep up the good work😊)
I think Aaron's response could be a combination of testosterone affecting her brain, hey cognitive dissonance about the transitioning process and get unresolved feelings about why she did it.
I remember a psychologist talking about cult survivors saying when patients struggle to articulate themselves smoothly when they've not processed trauma. That's what her response made me think about.
@@sheilaoreilly6826 I think you may have something. There's videos that share the pain that is felt when surgeries and testosterone cause endless physical problems, like her constant infections and other stuff. It's gotta be tough because detransing is no picnic either, so it becomes "If I knew then what I know now.. '' ..?
Hmmm... I didn't have much trouble following Aaron, I think he was just full of nervous energy. I just read one of Aaron's essays and the writing was very clear to me.
Disagree, in this particular case. :) That’s just the way Aaron speaks - I sometimes do the same.
I recognize the speech pattern from children (of both sexes) who stutter a bit. It’s the sound of “brain running faster than verbal expression”, IMHO
Aaron has let go of almost all the cognitive dissonance that comes along with transgender, but she still allows herself a measure of protection from the worst of her regret. The physical effects are such that she can't return to her life as a woman, which is what she wants. Aaron, if you read this, apologies for the armchair psychoanalysis, and thank you for being so generous in sharing your thoughts. We are both human, and I just seek to understand.
Best opening podcast host line: "What Are The Beans, and How Shall We Spill Them??"
The therapy to assist him would not have been to further “compartmentalise” but rather to use something like “Ego State” therapy in combination with EMDR to track back to the dissociative state caused by trauma that was the root of her discomfort or rejection of her body. This therapy seeks to address the different parts of the person which need to be to reintegrated into a new whole, by identifying the pivotal points of major impact and then properly processing them through EMDR.
4:00 I suspect the reason why Aaron was removed from the event, even when using the correct language, is that within the ideology it is not possible for a 'cisgender' child to be transitioned by mistake. All children, supposedly being polymorphously perverse in Freudian terms, are proto-transgender, or 'eggs' in the language of the activists. Hence the emphasis on story hour and other entry points into early childhood education. In their world, heteronormativity is the enemy precisely because it constrains the child's potential. To be a cisgender adult is to have failed to develop queerly.
This was a fun conversation to listen to, seemed like you were all having a good time. Really interesting updates on the state of gender medicine too!
I just cannot believe ANYONE would unironically argue that non-verbal autistic child can consent to ANY medical intervention, even less that they can do it through fucking ass drawings. This clown world is not longer getting laughs from me.
Amen!
I really appreciate all the perspectives in this episode, especially on what we do going forward. It's easy to feel overwhelmed when the debate has become so toxic. As a mental health provider, I'm constantly thinking about how to navigate these discussions without losing my job and hearing perspectives like these is helpful.
Non-verbal autistic CHILDREN!!! Experimental mutilation. And tax dollars are paying for this..and the lifelong medical bills.
THIS IS MADNESS!
Thank you both for attending these conferences.
A note on the word terf- it’s used on a range of women including those who have any sort of question, boundary, etc or want to have a conversation on how to find a solution that doesn’t take away rights from women--all the way to the people who completely disagree and think it is a scourge on society.
People with any views or thoughts that don’t specifically and vehemently “affirm” are “terfy ” and even something as simple as asking questions in the “wrong language “ has resulted in myself ans many others being blocked banned silenced and essentially removed from any conversation about this, including its affect on women’s rights.
In short, TERF May once have referred to people directly targeting trans “thought “ as wrong and dangerous (always perceived as an attack by TRAs)…but at this point it refers to literally anyone who has any sort of question opinion or thought that is not in line with the Ideological Demands
34:35. "it ALWAYS changes, based on circumstances..."
This is true of EVERY aspect of "gender" ideology; They have "answers", IF you only ever focus on ONE specific question, at a time... But when you look at ALL those answers, together, you get a bizarre, self-contradictary mess.
And this is true on the most basic, foundational level, in ways that an 11yo kid could understand.
-"Gender is just a social construct" ie. In the "nature vs nurture" paradigm, your "gender" is 100% nurture; Merely an arbitrary social concept, entirely learned, and dependent on WHICH society/era you're raised in.
-But trans folx are "born this way". They are "born in the Wrong Body". ie "gender" is (NOW) 100% 'NATURE', in the "nature vs nurture" paradigm. It is (NOW) innate from birth, and hardwired to the brain (REGARDLESS of what society you're born into)
These are BOTH two of the most foundational ideas in "gender" ideology; Yet they are 100% mutually contradictary; It is LOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for both to be true, at once.
But these impossible claims are BOTH are constantly appealed to, as if they were established, obvious, evidence based fact... When in reality, NEITHER claim has the tinyest shred of empirical evidence. In fact, "just a social construct" is an explicit attempt to DENY any burden of evidence (How can you EXPECT a "mere social construct" to have empirical evidence?!?)
Yet believers in "gender", from brainwashed 15yo's in leggings, up to esteemed doctors who are considered 'experts" will appeal to BOTH these mutually-contradictary, 100% evidence-free dogmas, minutes apart, without even ACKNOWLEDGING the unresolvable conflict between them.
And the whole ideology is rife with such conflicts...
-How can "just a social construct" EVER justify ANY form of body-modification?!? ESPECIALLY in unconsenting children?
-How can you claim to NOT be conflating evidence-based sex, with the evidence-free assertion of "gender", when changing "genders" grants access to organizations, which exist ONLY due to the PHYSIOLOGICAL differences between the SEXES, like males being allowed in women's/girls' sports?!
And maybe the biggest, most concerning contradiction- HOW CAN YOU JUSTIFY TREATING "TRANSGENDERISM" LIKE A MEDICAL ISSUE, WHEN THERE'S A 100% ABSENCE OF *ANY SCRAP* OF EMPIRICAL, PHYSIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE, FOR *ANY* RELATED CLAIMS?!?
It is a joke. The ENTIRE ideology is a house of cards, built on sand, with no foundations.
Seriously, flat earth or astrology are more valid as "evidence-based science" than "gender" is...
The dictionary definition of "PSEUDO-SCIENCE" is "a belief system which doesn't adhere to scientific method, but which is treated AS IF it was science..." (A kind of "trans-science", I guess...)
"Gender" has ZERO empirical evidence. ZERO mechanisms for falsifiability. It can't even give meanjngful, evidence-based definitions of key terms like "woman", "man", or even "gender" itself... Yet it's used as the SOLE justifcation for THOUSANDS of (surgical, chemical or other) """medical procedures""" annually...
If that doesn't qualify "gender" as "pseudo-science", then NOTHING is "pseudo-science"...
Mr Menno observed how activists like to claim that trans people existed for thousands of years without noticing that, IF it is true, they obviously managed well without the need to change their physical bodies. They "unalive" themselves only since these treatments are available.
“Gender” only refers to words in romantic languages where they have male and female versions of “the” for different objects. (Ex La chaise-since chair is female in French)
It was only applied to people by Dr Money who abused boys in his “gender” experiments.
This is true of EVERY aspect of "gender" ideology; They have "answers", IF you only ever focus on ONE specific question, at a time... But when you look at ALL those answers, together, you get a bizarre, self-contradictary mess.
This is one of main similarities we can see between political ideologies and religions. :)
Thanks for another thought provoking CALMverstion
All these new words they keep flinging out there, and I can't help but think of the Tower of Babel.
1:21:17 it's changing "tack" Benjamin, it comes from sailing. Great interview, both guests very informative. Although some of it is terrifying.
Does Aaron Terrell look like James Lindasy to any one else . Or is it just me? 😊❤
Wait wait... unbuttoning onesies to look like a dress... why does this sound familiar? Is that what Jazz Jennings munchhausen mom wrote in her journal when Jazz was 2?
Removing evaluations of cognitive ability to consent?
What could possibly go wrong?
Excellent job of presenting the flaws in gender "affirming" care for children. May I make a suggestion? So many similar and excellent videos are often 1-2 hours in length. As a natal female baby boomer (who has never raised children), and who is struggling to understand how to best counteract the pernicious gender "affirming" ideology targeting children, can you please publish an outline for this video of the pertinent points (or at least an English transcript)? Guys, I'm on your side but I need talking points!
Having listened to the stories of a number of adults who have been very satisfied with socially, hormonally and medically transitioning, I realize that it can indeed be the right treatment for some AS LONG AS they are adults (at least 18-25 or older). However, the exponential explosion to push transition onto children under 18 is a cult that is medically, scientifically and morally wrong and, for the majority of confused teens, not supported by the evidence.
My impression of the transitioning for children cult: this is the Emperor's New Clothes meets Lord of the Flies!
Cosplaying doctoring.
A most pithy definition of affirmative care.
This conversation is a masterpiece. Thank you all!
Another great conversation, I'm sure.
Eliza have you talked to the publisher of the book of Kathleen Stock? They are great and would take the hit
How will we cope with the religion/cult so many of them must and will be invested in for years to come or their lifetime?
I see them in front of my door. Just today four or five females with green hair and some testosterone induced beards, some with mastectomy scars jumped up and down the street on their way to the tram station, on their way to be part of a rainbow parade in a 50k citizen city 50km west of the city of Vienna.
We don’t. They will have to deal with their own consequences.
@@e.c.winner7252 but they will bother us / society and will try to legitimise their demise somehow lifelong... my uncreative suspicion is, we still would have to nod along the rest of their lifes without insight in the mistake they did fall victim to.
The issue with that is, I think they are more in society than a regular obscure cult. And they set societal standards which will be really hard to roll back completely.
oh u know the harsh times coming and at such times every snowflake will melt or be shellshocked into reason :D
Re: Doctors as “Providers” and “Services.” These aren’t terms designed to hide the nature of gender medical procedures. They are industry standard superordinate categories for insurance billing purposes.
Provider vs Doctor:
The word “Doctor” comes from the Latin root word “docere” - to teach. Simply stated, teaching and providing are different courses and have different methods and goals.
I agree, part of this seems to be an abdication of responsibility on the part of mental health professionals and their societies/colleges/professional organizations, etc.
This was an amazing conversation - possibly your best yet.
Please finish a sentence💕
I wish I could 😢 alas ADHD
@@elegationvain thank you for saying and I hope the 💕 conveyed « said with soft voice ». Looking forward to all your out put from the Transgender Health Summit & following your podcasts & Twitter. And again thank you 🤗🤭
So... Does that mean plastic surgery will be covered by insurance?
The secret is threatening suicide apparently.
Its crazy i was going to mention that this reminds me of the moral panic of the '80s and '90s. Damn, I didn't expect to be proved correct.
Many of the same crazies are on a new grift
For quite some time now the “trans movement”, especially the focus on gender confusing children, has reminded me of the 1980/90s Satanic sexual abuse daycare hysteria. “Therapists” played a significant role in the manner of questioning children with leading/guiding questions that elicited the answers the therapists wanted. This hysteria became a social contagion with many lives ruined by false accusations. During the same time period, “ therapists “ created the “Recovered (Repressed) Memory movement. Here, again, therapists were leading patients and ruining lives with false accusations.
In review of the Recovered Memory Movement in 2005, it was deemed a catastrophe in the mental health field akin to the lobotomy era -
““With a few decades’ perspective, it’s clear this level of confidence led to disastrous results. In 2005 a Harvard psychology professor, Richard McNally, called the recovered memory movement “the worst catastrophe to befall the mental health field since the lobotomy era.”
At the height of the controversy in 1994, I co-wrote a book, “Making Monsters,” on the topic with the sociologist Richard Ofshe. In writing it, we hoped to help stop the practice that was harming so many. We also wanted to create a historical record that might help prevent the profession from going down another rabbit hole.” “www.nytimes.com/2022/09/27/opinion/recovered-memory-therapy-mental-health.html
Making Monsters-Amazon book description
If you haven't heard of false memory syndrome and the controversy it engenders, you haven't seen a talk show recently. In the last decade, there has been a veritable explosion of cases in which (mostly) women in therapy remember being sexually abused by their parents. In many instances, the memories escalate, and the patients eventually exhibit symptoms of multiple personality disorder or recall being victims of satanic cults. Ofshe, a social psychologist, and Watters, a Mother Jones writer, examine this psychological phenomenon and offer two explanations for its current prevalence: either recovered-memory therapists have achieved a breakthrough in the understanding of the human mind, in which case much that is fundamental about our understanding of psychology will need to be reinterpreted, or the practice of uncovering repressed memories has been built into a pseudoscience by therapists who have created "an Alice-in-Wonderland world in which opinion, metaphor, and ideological preference substitute for objective evidence." Firmly supporting the latter view, the authors offer a thoughtfully written, restrained (even a bit dry), and generally persuasive examination of what false memory syndrome reveals about society as well as ourselves. Ilene Cooper
The Wikipedia article regarding the daycare abuse hysteria specifically addresses the vulnerability of children and their susceptibility to leading and suggestive questioning tactics, and tactics of applying “peer pressure “ to persuade the children to provide the desired testimony. In curiosity I began searching for other therapists created “movements” and found something even more disturbing - social justice activism is embedded in the ideology of the counseling psychology ethos. Instead of psychologists and counselors seeking to help the patients in their care to better understand and cope in the reality of the world there is a culture of creating social contagion and mental dis-ease in vulnerable adults and children.
Satanic sex abuse daycare hysteria
Suggestibility of Children
“Children are vulnerable to outside influences that can result in fabrication of testimony.[5] Their testimony can be influenced in a variety of ways. In an article published by the American Psychological Association and titled Jeopardy in the Courtroom: A Scientific Analysis of Children’s Testimony, by Maggie Bruck-a professor within the Division of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine-wrote that children incorporate aspects of the interviewer's questions into their answers, as an attempt to tell the interviewer what the child believes is being sought.[6] Studies also show that when adults ask children questions that do not make sense (such as: "is milk bigger than water?" or "is red heavier than yellow?"), most children will offer an answer, believing that there is an answer to be given, rather than understanding the absurdity of the question.[7] Furthermore, repeated questioning of children causes them to change their answers. This is because the children perceive the repeated questioning as a sign that they did not give the "correct" answer previously.[8] Children are also especially susceptible to leading and suggestive questions.[9] Research has found that, in the absence of being prompted, it is uncommon for children to make fictitious reports of sexual abuse.[10][11][12][13] And that conversely, it is not unusual for children to underreport abuse.[14][15][16]
Interviewer bias also influences child testimony. When an interviewer has a preconceived notion as to the truth of the matter being investigated, the questioning is performed in a manner to extract statements that evidence these beliefs.[8] As a result, evidence that could disprove the belief is never sought by the interviewer. Additionally, positive reinforcement by the interviewer can taint child testimony. Often, such reinforcement is given to encourage a spirit of cooperation by the child, but impartiality can quickly end as the interviewer nods, smiles, or offers verbal encouragement to "helpful" statements.[8] Some studies show that when interviewers make reassuring statements to child witnesses, the children are more likely to fabricate stories of past events that never occurred.[17]
Peer pressure also influences children to fabricate stories. Studies show that when a child witness is told that his or her friends have already testified that certain events occurred, the child witness was more likely to create a matching story.[18] The status of the interviewer can also influence a child's testimony, because the more authority an interviewer has, such as a police officer, the more likely a child is to comply with that person's apparent agenda.[19]” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-care_sex-abuse_hysteria
"it's still life-saving, even if people die". totally not a kult. and where else have we heard this type of thinking, as if there's some kinda net benefit to a treatment even though so many (maybe all) people are harmed
There is no "do no harm" in this model. If the patient wants to be harmed, you harm them, because the patient knows what kind of harm, oops I mean gender, they need.
There is a regret with nearly ALL surgeries, no matter whether elective or not. Suspicious about SRS is that the regret is miraculously low, not that there is regret.
Once transgenderism is over as a massive viral youth fad, transition regret will absolutely EXPLODE. The courts will be jammed with lawsuits. Doctors, parents, teachers, and pro-trans activists who supported it will fear for their very lives. It's going to be intense for a few years.
WOW!! Kicked out for asking how they safe guard cis-kids. That is just unbelievably insane!!!
i like how eliza is slowly transitioning into "blade runner 2049" aesthetics.
It is actually a good thing that they are not calling the clients "patients". Referring to them as patients is the down-line effect of psychiatry treading on the medical establishment. In fact by not calling them patients, we can therefore withhold "treatment" without any ethical concerns, as none of this is in any way medically indicated. It is a welcome admission on their part imo.
Psychiatry is part of the medical establishment and has been for at least a hundred years. You cannot become a psychiatrist without first qualifying as a medical doctor. Hence 'patients'.
@@liberality I fully recognize that psychiatry is part of the medical establishment, and how one becomes a psychiatrist. It is not however, a true branch of medicine as they are not treating pathologies, but personal issues people have in living. Psychiatric "diseases" are voted into and out of existence, not discovered via examination of the body. Society's designation of aberrant behavior as illness is just the latest excuse now that religious explanations are no longer available.
Thank you for sharing this delightful conversation about so many scary trends.
Is anyone drawing a connection to the Heavens Gate cult and other GM cults?
It started when I thought to myself seeing things out in the world man this feels like a cult. Then as I have been deep diving realizing yeah this is actually a cult that gained systematic power.
Imagine a psychiatrist affirming the embodiment goals of cutters?
Well Aaron Terrell definitely passes and so does Ben.
Aaron & Eliza Yr Awesome!
Keep Doing What Yr Doing!
Thanks & Luv from The UK❤️🌞
When the first Lobotomized students do the research the ice-pick science will finally be settled.
Until then, keep lobotomizing those hysteric persons everywhere, you can drag them on a public stage.
Everybody can see how quiet and docile a patient gets as soon as a skilled professional gets to work. *RELAX!*
So Downs Syndrome persons given to perform drag Queen story hour isn’t exploitive
It is evil!
Only lawyers have the scope to legally sign off on if someone has competence. Doctors do not have this ability, they can be used as a tool in the assessment to build a case for or against competence.
Anorexia nervosa, facillitate not eating?
I'm not transgender (maybe non binary) but I'd like to give a description to what it may feel like: when one looks in the mirror the reflection looking back at them is not recognized by that person. It does not correlate with the mental image that one has of themselves.
Really appreciated this. Both guests.
Re 1:15:40 EPATH and WPATH are the flat earthers. "sex is not binary", "gender is assigned at birth", etc.
4:00 sue for a refund ... compell them to disclose their reasons for kicking you out of the conference.
Aarons Amazing Smile makes me feel So Happy!🌞😁😁
Great vid, great guests, albeit horrifying content. Thank you, BB, Eliza & Aaron.
So many excellent points. What doesn’t make ethical sense in medical practice is surgery to remove or alter healthy body parts. If a patient is healthy no provider should do unnecessary interventions, if they do the microscope should be held to the reasons why.
It makes me really depressed that we’re castrating people, especially kids. Some men get really bitter about getting circumcised. I can’t imagine how they’ll feel when they lose all of it. I imagine many women will feel the same way. This is one of the most horrific things our culture permits to occur and for what? Money? Power? Back pats? Upvotes and likes?
1:27:59 re: "gender dysphoria" vs "gender incongruence" (lol. This constant stream of euphemisms).
It also seems like "gender dysphoria" is something that ONLY people who are overtly trans-IDing (or at least questioning if they may be "trans", I guess) would relate to.
But the way "gender INCONGRUENCE" was described, it seems like that would capture ANY self-conciousness about ANY aspect of the body, which ANYONE may have.
I'm pretty sure that NOBODY is 100% perfectly happy with their body/appearance- We ALL have insecurities about "Geez, I'm getting a spare tyre!! I really should lose weight", or "I've always hated that my nose is too big", or "Dang, I'm going bald/getting wrinkles/getting fat/whatever".
It sounds like "gender incongruence" could much more easily twist those normal insecurities, into "gender-identity issues", than the older term "gender dysphoria"- (Whether to steer people into the "gender-affirming care" meat-grinder. Or to inflate stats. Or whatever other motivation)
Do please consider a fourway splitscreen when there's just three of you - obvious contender for the fourth screen would be a cat or birdfeeder cam.
The two-guests on top, Benjamin-rectangle below looks like a scary clown face.
Wackadoodle! I agree.
19:15 Aaron that comment about the red shirt has so much "Star Trek" about it you have no idea,lol.
The prob with that diamond metaphor is you can sell it on and get the money back. It's true of both diamonds and transition that their value is inflated though.
A bypass operation is lifesaving but it's still elective. If they've scheduled the surgery, it's elective.
If they're doing lifesaving, emergency surgery on a person who was brought to the hospital unconscious, that would be non-elective.
Eliza, you should see how your book can published in the UK.
My suggestion is to focus on the ethics and principles of science and medicine. Those rules were developed because of past things like this and people who dealt with accidental/deliberate fraudulent treatment developed those rules based on their experience. Those principles have also been adopted in many laws.
When the Woke/Trans stuff collapses, it will be clear they violated all those principles and everyone will wonder why they were allowed to get away with violating them.
If there's no assessment, how do you make a differential diagnosis to prevent missing treating a critical condition?
Are these doctors gleaning medical records for candidates?
It won't be too hard. “Epic Systems Corporation, or Epic, is an American privately held healthcare software company. According to the company, hospitals that use its software held medical records of 78% of patients in the United States and over 3% of patients worldwide in 2022.[4]” They are huge into LGBT organizations.
What if a child's embodiment goals are to remain unvaccinated? Can we affirm that as well?
looking forward to this!
The Next time someone sees Diane Ehrensaft speak, ask her about Michael Acquino
No therapists would set out to help you to continue to compartmentalise, the whole premise of mental wellbeing is integration of various parts of the self!
1:32:58 "It's such a great, noble cause.. which is just currently poorly-served by the evidence..."
Lol. Well, I'm sure they'll figure out some way to 'adjust' this obviously flawed, faulty evidence, in order to solve that issue...
Okaaaay…. So what (the AF) is the role of psychologists in this new client-facilitating scenario…? It seems to me they’ve washed their hands of responsibility to provide expert care (seeing that any 3 year old is deemed to know more than them) to the point that they have no further role in trans health care…
46:52 Maybe it was supposed to be "gender Minotaur?"
I know right!? Taurus is probably the least dualistic sign in the astrological system. It would be Sagittarius most likely...
@@amandafaulks2515 I'll take your word on the astrology.
Remember when sex was biology and gender was identity and you were simply ignorant for not understanding the difference? This is what is now asked on a graduate questionnaire from Northwestern University:
What is you gender identity:
agender
cisgender man
cisgender woman
Genderqueer or gender fluid
Non-binary
Transgender man
Transgender woman
Mine is not in the options listed
Prefer not to answer
What is your sexual identity or orientation?
asexual
bisexual
gay or lesbian
straight/heterosexual
queer
other
prefer not to answer
No, gender only refers to language structures. Objects in romantic languages have genders. Humans have sexes.
please explain whats the difference between
- fluid, queer and non-binary ? I just understand that these are not "transgender" - someone who is trying to change their gender. I just assume this is something like "not male and not female" but aside this I cannot understand specific difference between those 3 things. I've tried to guess it but without any success despite listening and watching to so many debates and lectures about these topics.
@@TallisKeeton 'fluid, queer and non-binary' generally mean that you coloured your hair to match your favourite unicorn plushie and you spend every conversation waiting for an opportunity to pounce on someone for not using your preferred pronoun.
There is no purpose to therapy if the answer is already there.
@Benjamin A Boyce, would you talk to one Doctor Quentin Van Meter who is pediatric endocrinologist and someone who Worked with Doctor Money at the ground level. PLEASE TALK TO THIS MAN! please! I have tried to get Doctor Van Meter to be on the show with Buck angel or Blaire White.
Really sounds like those genderdokters started identifying themselves as hammers, and every child they meet as a nail.
Wow, the switch into gender incongruence is truly EVIL...
For the algo
I wholly regret removing my tonsils and uvula. But I don't think there's a support group for something like that...😂🙄
55:04 shut up Benjamin! 😂 ask the question and let them speak Mr Boyce 😊
I think I’m one of the best listeners on the block, but maybe around the hour mark I get a little feisty.
@@BenjaminABoyce I do like when you get feisty, no shade Mr Boyce 😍. I just really thought Aaron was hitting on a really good point there. All your interviews are fantastic thank you for what you do ✌️
5:22 - Just word it differently next time: "My kid keeps insisting that they're cis, but everyone knows they're not. What can we do to convince them to undergo treatments they feels are unnecessary?"
It was “like” what?? Hard to follow at times. Especially around the 1:00 mark.
I do think people regret a lot of surgeries of than trans !! Some doctors do a bad job job some people have complications
So Aaron is trans? What a trans man?
Correct.
@@elegationvain thanks. I’m old and get confused about all this. 👍
Sentimental and abstract vs targeted and compulsive 1:03:02
Transitioning is pointless to your percieved goal of becoming the 'other' biological human. However, if you're looking to becone a Eunuch....
Many spanks to the trans´esters for bringing us the word. :D
Well if you use their language
9:15 giving the analysis before the narrative, jumping around, giveaway for someone who needs help getting in the groove of telling the story. Help him, host.....he really wants to just give the analysis, instead of the story THEN the analysis. Your audience wants to be able to analyze it too! We can't do it without the story. Narrative first, Then analysis.
Why does Aaron feel his reasons for transition are reasonable and healthy (even though they sound opaque at best and disordered/dysfunctional at worst) but other trans people’s reasons aren’t? How can you laugh at non-binary females with beards and claim people like them need to be prevented from accessing medical transition bc they obviously have mental/behavioral stuff going on, but then describe your own reasons for transition as an avoidant coping mechanism for some sort of combo of psycho-sexual and body dysmorphic disorders? Pot meet kettle. What’s the reasoning here?