The Jeep sprays water forward because that crazy approach angle and the gap between the fender/bumper allows the water to get out in front of the truck. It's a trade-off! The flat windscreen doesn't help dissipate that water as well as the laid-back windshield on other trucks.
TOTALLY agree that high speed off-roading is WAY WAY more fun!! Full size Raptor owner and I absolutely LOVE these trucks!! Rock crawling is just too nerve wracking.
For me I would take the Ford hands down. I think the looks go to the Ford. I would rather have the extra payload, better ride, and the biggest reason is I don't go off road. The removeable roof and doors mean nothing to me as I would never take either one off.
I think the Raptor Ranger is a relative bargain for what you get, and best in class by far. I don't understand the Mojave model, if I were to buy a Gladiator it would be a Rubicon for technical trails where it would do better than the Raptor. For literally anything else, the Raptor is going to be better, while while being more fun to drive and more comfortable.
Water splash is usually due of the tire more that the vehicle. I experienced that a lot during the torrential downpour in central FL in the last 20yrs.
I watched this after buying a Mojave last night. First, Canadian prices are insane. I looked at both trucks. In Arizona, the Raptor is around 65k. I picked up my Mojave for 42k brand new. They list here around 50k. I got an end of the year deal. The independent suspension on the Raptor makes it what it is. A solid axle Mojave, or any Jeep, isn’t going to perform at speeds in whips like a Raptor. Though marketed as “desert runners” they are vastly different. As far as power, the Jeep seemed good enough. Though the Raptor is fun to drive.
Pops out there braving the mosquitoes 🤣 man, i really like that raptor as a total package, but you cant deny jeep's solid axles and aggressive 33s. Great comparison, gentlemen
Raptor looks better, Raptor has a more desirable powertrain, Raptor has better interior, Raptor is cheaper... Jeep is probably more rugged and longer lasting for off-road usage. IMO I don't have access to off-road fun so I pick the Raptor.
The answer in all these tests is always the same: Jeep is better off road, non jeep is better on road. For most people who spend 99% of their time on road, non-jeep is almost always the better daily driver. Unless you want a pickup where you can easily take off the doors and roof, of course.
@@is6566hahahaha well, that's true. You can take any pickups doors and roof off easily... once. Just like _any_ car can go off roading... once. Whether it's drivable again after is the biggest part. 😂
@maine-lygamingtips2039I mean I'm in a JLU Sport S and almost 3 years in the only issue I've had is a dead battery after 2 years. But your mileage may vary. Even the new Toyotas are having problems. Transmission issues, clutch issues, diff issues... not a great start. Then there's the twin turbo engine in the new tundras and GX...
@@backwoodstherapy the 3.6 has 1 flaw. The oil cooler. Is a $80 part to upgrade to all aluminum After that, I bet the jeep outlives the high strung ecoboost. Mines at 65k with 38” tires its whole life.
This is the first time I learned that you have to go through a procedure to lock the diff on the Jeep. On my F150, you just pull out the switch and that’s it. That’s not good if you want or need to quickly engage.
I don’t know what’s going on here. As long as I’m in 4WD I can just flip the switch to lock up the diffs. I have a Wrangler, but I’m guessing it’s the same.
Low gear in a Mojave runs max 50mph. Dont know that it would have made a difference, but definitely has factor all it's own. Oh- and 1133 pound payload on my 2021. I think the diff Is because of all the "X" goodies.
I’d be interested in the bug to windshield ratio. Love my Gladiator but any short hop on a highway during bug season and I’m blind from the corpse parade on the windshield and the stock wipers are useless. Takes a days worth of elbow grease to clean and heaven help you if you give it more than 10 minutes in the sun to cook into place.
That little raptor looks like a blast to run hard. That jeep was a bit of a let down when it floundered at high speed. I love jeeps but that gladiator makes zero sense. What if you had a family of four, a bed full of camping/fun gear, and a 4000lb boat. Can you safely make that trip? Probably..but not by the payload numbers. Give me the rusty axles.
Well, for starters, you would not be looking at getting this jeep if your intended uses were not a match for it... Paraphrased... "These apples I bought taste nothing like the organges that I wanted."
I've done it and it start overheating at 60mph with the ecodiesel at least but carrying well over 5500 lbs boat. As long as you stay at 60 it is all good. I don't know if the rr can pull a full boat 5500 + lbs a loaded bed and 5 inside either. But I still love my ecodiesel which still give me 15/16 mpg loaded like that on 35s😂
I need you to test out my 20 year old 4Runner. It’s not like super built up or anything, just curious to see what an old, reliable (but tired) SUV would look like in this test. Hey, that could be a whole new series: Regular Dude Offroad Reviews. You test out the inexpensive, clapped-out trucks that us regular folks drive.
Mojave: 863 pounds payload. This must be the world record of lowest payload for any off road 4x4 vehicle. Let’s call it the segment leader of lowest payload.
I like the look of the new ranger, that one is a cool color, but I'd take a Gladiator Mojave any day. Velocity Yellow or Anvy works fo rme. I like the 6 speed manual, but the 8 speed works good.
Payload is ridiculous on the Jeep. Trailer tongue weight and one or two adults would put you over the limit. Yes, that rust is crazy on a brand new truck.
I had a 22 Mohave and loved A lot about it, but any ride longer than an hour and the seats are uncomfortable, ford you can take on long rides and be comfortable
I would be interested in that match up. Colorado will be down on power right off the bat. Its too bad GM doesn't add in options for higher power options.
Don't forget the rock rails(Jeep) vs side step. So, even with it's worse breakover angle, the Jeep will just drag on those rails. Plus, better approach, better clearance, better skid plates. And how about that steel bumper? Can a high lift jack be used on that? It will probably protect from brush and shrubs better than will the Raptor. Plus, it was down right good at the high speed work compared to most 4WD vehicles out there................................... But the Raptor was just so much nicer in that category! Pros and cons. But in the end, 13K USD cheaper, I have to go with the Ford no matter what type of off roading I do, and then I will appreciate the suspension and power every day on road. Still, I hear some spectacular discounts are available on Jeeps these days, so maybe in real world current conditions there is not much difference in price? ............................ One final thing to muddy the waters so to speak. That front locker on the Raptor. But, the traction management PLUS greater front end articulation(solid axle) might make up for a lot of that missing benefit. And worse come to worse, if if I found I ever actually needed the front locker, I can just add one pretty easy to the Jeep. I bet numerous mods will be pretty easy on the Jeep, and maybe cheaper? For me, if I could get the price of the Jeep closer to the Raptor, it would be a hard choice. At least if I did a lot of hard core mud bogging and rock crawling. If not, it would be hard to not go with the Ranger.
Oh look, it's a 2024 Jeep Gladiator Mojave in the Unavailable for 2024 Sarge Green. Just like the last Final Edition 392...no really we mean it this time. Way to go Jeep, nice sales pitch. Love my Gladiator, but every time i see a 2024 Sarge Green, I get a little bitter...
They’ve been doing this gimmicky game for several years now. The Durango Hellcat was a limited production, then a year later they did another run. The dodge demon was a limited run. Huge collectors incentive. 3 years later they did an even better demon. It’s all become overrated
I can buy a brand new rubicon or Mojave for 45k. Big discounts off MSRP to be had. The cheapest raptor is 55k. No turbocharged bs, plus the doors and roof come off. Not to mention the ranger looks too round imo. Live front axle too. And I can promise you that chicks will always prefer a roof/doors off jeep over a ranger
Personally, the raptor winning on the speed test has a lot to do with different things; tires, front suspension, etc. Also, desert is different than what your driving in. That said, the price analysis is I think misunderstood based on what I have researched. Raptor and Mojave are top end trucks so they will be high dollar and that is what you are comparing, fair enough. Yet in another video on the gladiator your dad talked about sticker shock on the price of the Mojave, so let's talk. The Sport and Sport S for Jeep Gladiator are every bit as capable off road and probably better on road because of the tires and it is FAR less expensive. My point is, it punches above it's pay grade because Jeep is making a lot more standard: 4x4, 12.3 touch screen with all tech trimmings, best in class backseat legroom, convertible, more skid protection which is best in class. Point is, all of that stuff is options that drives up price in the midsized segment. I think a lot of people are sleeping on the entry trims on the gladiator and I think the gladiator is misunderstood in the midsize truck segment. The entry trim can be bought in US for as little as 34k in some places, you will not find that deal anywhere else for a midsized 4x4 truck with class leading off road capability. This is what "it drives like a Jeep" means. I don't own one yet, it is likely what I would buy though.
Big no. Co worker of mine got that base 34k gladiator.... Manual windows and no power locks is enough for me to not recommend it to anyone. Imagine paying 34k for a vehicle and having to roll up your windows manually...
I think the Gladiator Sport "S" Max tow might be the unknown unsung option. Heavy frame , wider axles of Rubicon, lift of a Rubicon , 4:10 gearing and limited slip rear differential. Add in Torque grip auto locking front spiders in the front differential or True Trac and it would be formidable off road and more useful. Only downside would be the Jeep motors
Again, I think Jeep is doing what Toyota has done with the Taco. Where are these ground clearances coming from? The Bronco manages 11.5” with 35s and everyone else is doing it with 33s?
would be a hard choice for me too but I would take the ranger raptor too I want the high speed and width that with that ride it gave you showed the difference on video
Not a great comparison since they are very different trucks. For two different purposes. One great feature on the jeep are the removal roof panels and doors. I think the jeep is more versatile the ranger has the high speed power.
Right when you were going to do the ditch crossing with the Jeep, you said you were in 4hi but showed the dash which indicated you were in 4 auto instead....you should do that test and the ruts section again but in part time 4WD and see what kind of difference you get.
Ranger Raptor is a Bronco Raptor at over 30k less $$ . . . more comfortable, killer powertrain, payload and price difference make it an easy call . . . and the independent front suspension will make it a lot better daily driver to boot . . . then factoring in the price difference - can't imagine anyone who is not a dies hard jeep person wanting the Gladiator over the Ranger (and I didn't even mention the appearance . . . just my opinion but I have always thought the Gladiator was one of the least appealing looking vehicles on the road - but there are a ton of them out there so some folks sure like them!)
As I’m a jk owner, 2016 and she’s rock ready.. Finally got my jlu 4xe , leasing.. ever since I got my first one, that was it. Looking at the Mojave, and not needing another “rock crawler”, but desert rated sounds really kool, and to know Jeep has different suspension setup for that model is kool as well, I’ve turned into a Jeep snob 😎.. But seeing that they both were kinda close in crawling, which Jeep will always win, but high speed is what Jeep is not, well wrangler anyway… Really close, but price point, and functionality “overlanding”, I think I’ve just been convinced, after this lease is up, go raptor, because I don’t need another crawler, and having speed in a trail sounds really fun and better feeling suspension is always a plus, like I said, I already have a crawler.. This might have been the video that changed my mind ❤️✌🏿
Great Test. This gave me a better idea on how these trucks preform off-road. I would pick the Ranger Raptor for the powertrain and high speed handling.
They’re bash plates on the Ford, not skid plates😜. Same off-road performance but the Ford is much better on road, it’s a pretty easy choice if you’re not a die hard Jeep fan
@@shiftymcgee9359They seemed to have fixed it on my 2023 F150 Tremor. No underbody rust at all. Perhaps they saw the underbody rust on this UA-cam channel.
@@JT012 no, it got attention during the pandemic when trucks were waiting for microprocessors. Rust is visible on TFL press vehicles also. I have zero rust issues on my 2023 Bronco. But surface rust is found on other new trucks.
As soon as I got my RR home from the dealer, I painted the drive shafts and a few other places showing some surface rust...ten minute job. The Australian and European trucks are painted from the factory.
great review Stephan/Howard , your dad is going to look like a second dart board after this video from all the mosquito bites, 😂 Ford has had their issues with the 3.0 twin turbo my brother was looking at either the Ranger Raptor or Bronco Raptor and the sales Rep advised against it , oh and it goes like stink no doubt, so he is waiting to see what Ford says about it, i think he is just going to take the Bronco with the twin turbo six its got tons of snot and is in the colour he likes, me i would take the Gladiator , i like the body style and the old school solid axles and for payload these easily take a 1000 pounds total with no issues or more and no turbos to consider just regular maintenance and Jeep has massive incentives right now , they're almost giving stuff away and i do agree with one commenter that Jeep should offer the new twin turbo i6 as an option for Jeep customers, I'll just take the V6 👍
Like the Ford better! With a slight lift, the Raptor would have more clearance. It is a wide truck though and perhaps not the best for narrow mountain trails.
I own a 2021 Gladiator Mojave. Its a beast for sure but I'm giving it to my son and buying a new Ranger Raptor. Same color as the one in this video. Why? For exactly the reason the guy in video experienced - bouncy ride and under powered. In addition highway driving takes getting used to in the Gladiator as it meanders and has light steering. Don't get me wrong, the Gladiator is a fun vehicle especially here in Florida where you can remove the doors and roof virtually year round (maybe not so much in the summer with the humidity and daily down pours). The RR is an interesting truck and appears to ride and handle better than the Gladiator in all but the most extreme conditions.
Yiu have great independent front suspension on the raptor and an axle on the gladiator so always will be better at speed. Hands down unless you have a 20k suspension on either... But for the price difference alone the raptor is a better option but in the end it's never going to be a jeep you can't remove doors and roof and windshield down and you just don't belong. For the untrained it's just another mid size truck. The jeep... You buy into a life style. But as vehicles go the raptor is more complete more modern and better overall...
thats retarded, compare it to a diesel gladiator with a mopar lift from the factory and 37s then lol. It wouldnt be a contest on anything short of high speed shit which no one ever does
my head hurts so much watching these videos, so many out there, looking for an offroad rig to haul camping, fishing and hunting gear, i need a truck that can go everywhere, but i am 6'4", been hard to fit in any vehicle, i am a truck driver and barely fit in my freightliner cascadia to give you an idea, so cramping into a truck i can deal with, it is what it is, all trucks have "up's" and "down's" so the unlimited options on what to get is causing me headaches........talk about a first world problem to have! 🤣🤣🤣
If I were in the market for something like this, the RR is a no brainer. Not sute what Stellantis is doing but hey are not enhancing the Jeep brand at all. In fact the opposite seems true.
Are you buying the tires for less than a thousand miles of use? Are you going to ask Ford and Jeep for permission to alter their vehicles for UA-cam video? Do you have any idea how impractical you sound?
Definitely picking that Ranger Raptor!!
Awesome video! I just got my RR a week ago. I have been absolutely loving it.
What Dads sacrifice for their sons, unsung heroes..... good job feeding the bugs!
This time of year they are the state bird, for sure
The Jeep sprays water forward because that crazy approach angle and the gap between the fender/bumper allows the water to get out in front of the truck. It's a trade-off! The flat windscreen doesn't help dissipate that water as well as the laid-back windshield on other trucks.
Great video, guys!! Hands down one of THE best truck channels out there!!
Thanks 👍
THEE Best!!! Nobody does it better than these guys
They got few really nice trucks as well..Nice Trucks!! I'd love to buy Big Green next year
Agreed. It's why a certain channel tried to poach him years ago. No disrespect to them, they do a great job with towing tests
TOTALLY agree that high speed off-roading is WAY WAY more fun!! Full size Raptor owner and I absolutely LOVE these trucks!! Rock crawling is just too nerve wracking.
Thanks!
For me I would take the Ford hands down. I think the looks go to the Ford. I would rather have the extra payload, better ride, and the biggest reason is I don't go off road. The removeable roof and doors mean nothing to me as I would never take either one off.
I wondered about the mosquito population with all that water... 21:33 that answers that question. 😬
Welcome to de swamp!
I think the Raptor Ranger is a relative bargain for what you get, and best in class by far. I don't understand the Mojave model, if I were to buy a Gladiator it would be a Rubicon for technical trails where it would do better than the Raptor. For literally anything else, the Raptor is going to be better, while while being more fun to drive and more comfortable.
Keep up the good work Steven. Making a living on UA-cam isn’t easy anymore.
So, you, your dad, and your brother driving to the mall would overload the Jeep.
Wild eh? Two or three people couldn't go on a weekend fishing trip and take any more than their rods with them.
Not many people check that sticker. Frontier and Tacoma both have sub 1000 lbs ratings on their door jambs as well (4 doors)
That’s crazy
One reason we went with a Gladiator Sport S with the Max Tow package. My door sticker is 1547lbs for payload. Other reason was price, 40k.
Water splash is usually due of the tire more that the vehicle. I experienced that a lot during the torrential downpour in central FL in the last 20yrs.
I watched this after buying a Mojave last night. First, Canadian prices are insane. I looked at both trucks. In Arizona, the Raptor is around 65k. I picked up my Mojave for 42k brand new. They list here around 50k. I got an end of the year deal. The independent suspension on the Raptor makes it what it is. A solid axle Mojave, or any Jeep, isn’t going to perform at speeds in whips like a Raptor. Though marketed as “desert runners” they are vastly different. As far as power, the Jeep seemed good enough. Though the Raptor is fun to drive.
Crazy that the ranger has the power ratings + some of some 1/2 ton trucks
Pops out there braving the mosquitoes 🤣 man, i really like that raptor as a total package, but you cant deny jeep's solid axles and aggressive 33s. Great comparison, gentlemen
Awesome episode!!! You guys Rock!!! 😁
Raptor looks better, Raptor has a more desirable powertrain, Raptor has better interior, Raptor is cheaper...
Jeep is probably more rugged and longer lasting for off-road usage. IMO
I don't have access to off-road fun so I pick the Raptor.
Raptor isnt cheaper with jeep incentives
@@benoliver2826 Do you see Jeep taking off $11k ?
@@rondail5675 yea you can a fully loaded 24 Rubicon in the states for 45-47k. I got a slightly used Rubicon diesel for 42k .
Those turbos will screw up everything in a few years.
@@rondail5675Yes, that’s exactly what they are doing. Back in February I was getting $12-13k knocked of Rubicons
The answer in all these tests is always the same: Jeep is better off road, non jeep is better on road. For most people who spend 99% of their time on road, non-jeep is almost always the better daily driver. Unless you want a pickup where you can easily take off the doors and roof, of course.
@backwoods… I can take doors and roof off any pickup easily. Sawzall is your friend. Putting them back is usually more involved, though.
@@is6566hahahaha well, that's true. You can take any pickups doors and roof off easily... once. Just like _any_ car can go off roading... once. Whether it's drivable again after is the biggest part. 😂
@maine-lygamingtips2039I mean I'm in a JLU Sport S and almost 3 years in the only issue I've had is a dead battery after 2 years. But your mileage may vary. Even the new Toyotas are having problems. Transmission issues, clutch issues, diff issues... not a great start. Then there's the twin turbo engine in the new tundras and GX...
@@backwoodstherapy the 3.6 has 1 flaw. The oil cooler. Is a $80 part to upgrade to all aluminum
After that, I bet the jeep outlives the high strung ecoboost.
Mines at 65k with 38” tires its whole life.
@@ScottByeTX Rubi or non Rubi?
This is the first time I learned that you have to go through a procedure to lock the diff on the Jeep. On my F150, you just pull out the switch and that’s it. That’s not good if you want or need to quickly engage.
I don’t know what’s going on here. As long as I’m in 4WD I can just flip the switch to lock up the diffs. I have a Wrangler, but I’m guessing it’s the same.
Gladiator is better looking…far more interesting vehicle, but certainly not as fast.
Gladiator is better in the most extreme conditions where the RR is a better overall ride for every day use.
Low gear in a Mojave runs max 50mph. Dont know that it would have made a difference, but definitely has factor all it's own. Oh- and 1133 pound payload on my 2021. I think the diff Is because of all the "X" goodies.
My 22’ Mojave (hard top) has 1100lb payload.
Wonder what changed?
Steel bumpers.
Probably the X package with all the fancy stuff
I’d be interested in the bug to windshield ratio. Love my Gladiator but any short hop on a highway during bug season and I’m blind from the corpse parade on the windshield and the stock wipers are useless. Takes a days worth of elbow grease to clean and heaven help you if you give it more than 10 minutes in the sun to cook into place.
Interesting perspective
The other problem with the jeeps is the flat windshield that’s near vertical. They break often.
Lol. That and cracked windshields. Jeep life. I carry a can of Windex in my truck 24/7.
That little raptor looks like a blast to run hard. That jeep was a bit of a let down when it floundered at high speed. I love jeeps but that gladiator makes zero sense. What if you had a family of four, a bed full of camping/fun gear, and a 4000lb boat. Can you safely make that trip? Probably..but not by the payload numbers. Give me the rusty axles.
Well, for starters, you would not be looking at getting this jeep if your intended uses were not a match for it...
Paraphrased...
"These apples I bought taste nothing like the organges that I wanted."
I've done it and it start overheating at 60mph with the ecodiesel at least but carrying well over 5500 lbs boat. As long as you stay at 60 it is all good.
I don't know if the rr can pull a full boat 5500 + lbs a loaded bed and 5 inside either.
But I still love my ecodiesel which still give me 15/16 mpg loaded like that on 35s😂
I need you to test out my 20 year old 4Runner.
It’s not like super built up or anything, just curious to see what an old, reliable (but tired) SUV would look like in this test.
Hey, that could be a whole new series: Regular Dude Offroad Reviews. You test out the inexpensive, clapped-out trucks that us regular folks drive.
I like it. problem is geography and logistics
@@TruckKing Us dedicated fans would make the drive. Plus during the summer I’d be willing to drive just about any distance to get out of Texas 🥵
Mojave: 863 pounds payload. This must be the world record of lowest payload for any off road 4x4 vehicle. Let’s call it the segment leader of lowest payload.
That’s what my ecosport has 😂
LOL Good one..
Less than a utv
My Tacoma trail team only has 900, where as my Tundra is 1400.
926 lbs for Tacoma Pro my brother owns.
I picked up my Ranger Raptor yesterday. Totally love it!!!
💯Agree, the Raptor is like nothing I have driven before, the power is insane. 😎
I don't understand why the Mojave won't offer a front locker...
I love Steves laugh as he's going through ' Baha ' mode with the Ranger.... Worth a 1000 words ! 🙂
I've got work at 9!! Right now!!
But I gotta stay for this!!!
Morning Steve Buddy!!!
I like the look of the new ranger, that one is a cool color, but I'd take a Gladiator Mojave any day. Velocity Yellow or Anvy works fo rme. I like the 6 speed manual, but the 8 speed works good.
Great video, thx. I can’t afford either, but if wishes were horses I’d pick the raptor.
Both peaks of off-road performance. One in the open desert and one on the trails
Payload is ridiculous on the Jeep. Trailer tongue weight and one or two adults would put you over the limit. Yes, that rust is crazy on a brand new truck.
Surface rust on the steel parts is quite normal after a very short period of time.
I had a 22 Mohave and loved A lot about it, but any ride longer than an hour and the seats are uncomfortable, ford you can take on long rides and be comfortable
Raptor all the way.
I'm with you on this. Ranger raptor all Day why would you not take more for less? It just seems like a no brainer. Great video once again!
Colorado ZR2 Bison vs Ranger Raptor, would be a good video, and i would pick them both over the Mojave.
I would be interested in that match up. Colorado will be down on power right off the bat. Its too bad GM doesn't add in options for higher power options.
@@beunbad they would have to offer a different motor.
Don't forget the rock rails(Jeep) vs side step. So, even with it's worse breakover angle, the Jeep will just drag on those rails. Plus, better approach, better clearance, better skid plates. And how about that steel bumper? Can a high lift jack be used on that? It will probably protect from brush and shrubs better than will the Raptor. Plus, it was down right good at the high speed work compared to most 4WD vehicles out there................................... But the Raptor was just so much nicer in that category! Pros and cons. But in the end, 13K USD cheaper, I have to go with the Ford no matter what type of off roading I do, and then I will appreciate the suspension and power every day on road. Still, I hear some spectacular discounts are available on Jeeps these days, so maybe in real world current conditions there is not much difference in price? ............................ One final thing to muddy the waters so to speak. That front locker on the Raptor. But, the traction management PLUS greater front end articulation(solid axle) might make up for a lot of that missing benefit. And worse come to worse, if if I found I ever actually needed the front locker, I can just add one pretty easy to the Jeep. I bet numerous mods will be pretty easy on the Jeep, and maybe cheaper? For me, if I could get the price of the Jeep closer to the Raptor, it would be a hard choice. At least if I did a lot of hard core mud bogging and rock crawling. If not, it would be hard to not go with the Ranger.
Oh look, it's a 2024 Jeep Gladiator Mojave in the Unavailable for 2024 Sarge Green. Just like the last Final Edition 392...no really we mean it this time. Way to go Jeep, nice sales pitch. Love my Gladiator, but every time i see a 2024 Sarge Green, I get a little bitter...
They’ve been doing this gimmicky game for several years now. The Durango Hellcat was a limited production, then a year later they did another run. The dodge demon was a limited run. Huge collectors incentive. 3 years later they did an even better demon. It’s all become overrated
Turbochargers always go bad and cost a fortune to replace.
Love to see turbo kit on 5.7 be sick. Black taco is badass
You had jeep in 4Auto! They both say 4Hi but Auto is not the same as part time.
Awesome video! Thanks. Raptor for me. :)
I can buy a brand new rubicon or Mojave for 45k. Big discounts off MSRP to be had. The cheapest raptor is 55k. No turbocharged bs, plus the doors and roof come off. Not to mention the ranger looks too round imo. Live front axle too. And I can promise you that chicks will always prefer a roof/doors off jeep over a ranger
Personally, the raptor winning on the speed test has a lot to do with different things; tires, front suspension, etc. Also, desert is different than what your driving in. That said, the price analysis is I think misunderstood based on what I have researched. Raptor and Mojave are top end trucks so they will be high dollar and that is what you are comparing, fair enough. Yet in another video on the gladiator your dad talked about sticker shock on the price of the Mojave, so let's talk. The Sport and Sport S for Jeep Gladiator are every bit as capable off road and probably better on road because of the tires and it is FAR less expensive. My point is, it punches above it's pay grade because Jeep is making a lot more standard: 4x4, 12.3 touch screen with all tech trimmings, best in class backseat legroom, convertible, more skid protection which is best in class. Point is, all of that stuff is options that drives up price in the midsized segment. I think a lot of people are sleeping on the entry trims on the gladiator and I think the gladiator is misunderstood in the midsize truck segment. The entry trim can be bought in US for as little as 34k in some places, you will not find that deal anywhere else for a midsized 4x4 truck with class leading off road capability. This is what "it drives like a Jeep" means. I don't own one yet, it is likely what I would buy though.
Big no.
Co worker of mine got that base 34k gladiator....
Manual windows and no power locks is enough for me to not recommend it to anyone. Imagine paying 34k for a vehicle and having to roll up your windows manually...
I think the Gladiator Sport "S" Max tow might be the unknown unsung option. Heavy frame , wider axles of Rubicon, lift of a Rubicon , 4:10 gearing and limited slip rear differential. Add in Torque grip auto locking front spiders in the front differential or True Trac and it would be formidable off road and more useful. Only downside would be the Jeep motors
Again, I think Jeep is doing what Toyota has done with the Taco. Where are these ground clearances coming from? The Bronco manages 11.5” with 35s and everyone else is doing it with 33s?
Ranger Raptor 455hp and 536lb-ft, with factory tune and still regular warranty
The Jeep is better looking and has more personality. Ford is nice but looks similar to all the other mid size trucks.
would be a hard choice for me too but I would take the ranger raptor too I want the high speed and width that with that ride it gave you showed the difference on video
Not a great comparison since they are very different trucks. For two different purposes. One great feature on the jeep are the removal roof panels and doors. I think the jeep is more versatile the ranger has the high speed power.
Right when you were going to do the ditch crossing with the Jeep, you said you were in 4hi but showed the dash which indicated you were in 4 auto instead....you should do that test and the ruts section again but in part time 4WD and see what kind of difference you get.
Great video and great channel!! Please tell your dad that he is truly awesome 🎉
Ranger Raptor is a Bronco Raptor at over 30k less $$ . . . more comfortable, killer powertrain, payload and price difference make it an easy call . . . and the independent front suspension will make it a lot better daily driver to boot . . . then factoring in the price difference - can't imagine anyone who is not a dies hard jeep person wanting the Gladiator over the Ranger (and I didn't even mention the appearance . . . just my opinion but I have always thought the Gladiator was one of the least appealing looking vehicles on the road - but there are a ton of them out there so some folks sure like them!)
Yeah I agree. The ranger is the clear winner
I owned a 21 Mojave. There's something nice about the open air
Motorcycle.
Don't forget the jeep maybe less wide, which means less brush pin stripes on the trail.
And less cargo capacity. It's a truck after all.
Nicely done, good job!!
Mojave just looks better.
Right On Howard!!! How's the Red 3500?? Nice Truck Man!!
As I’m a jk owner, 2016 and she’s rock ready..
Finally got my jlu 4xe , leasing.. ever since I got my first one, that was it.
Looking at the Mojave, and not needing another “rock crawler”, but desert rated sounds really kool, and to know Jeep has different suspension setup for that model is kool as well, I’ve turned into a Jeep snob 😎..
But seeing that they both were kinda close in crawling, which Jeep will always win, but high speed is what Jeep is not, well wrangler anyway…
Really close, but price point, and functionality “overlanding”, I think I’ve just been convinced, after this lease is up, go raptor, because I don’t need another crawler, and having speed in a trail sounds really fun and better feeling suspension is always a plus, like I said, I already have a crawler..
This might have been the video that changed my mind ❤️✌🏿
Just bought the RR and loving the power
Great Test. This gave me a better idea on how these trucks preform off-road. I would pick the Ranger Raptor for the powertrain and high speed handling.
Tests like this also need to include daily use, because even if an owner off-roads these things it's probably only about 5% of its usage.
They’re bash plates on the Ford, not skid plates😜. Same off-road performance but the Ford is much better on road, it’s a pretty easy choice if you’re not a die hard Jeep fan
That underbody rust on ford is unacceptable. I’d still own a Ford over a Chrysler product every single time but come on ford.
Been a problem since their pandemic F-150 builds. I don’t what the deal is, but it’s ugly.
@@shiftymcgee9359They seemed to have fixed it on my 2023 F150 Tremor. No underbody rust at all. Perhaps they saw the underbody rust on this UA-cam channel.
@@JT012 no, it got attention during the pandemic when trucks were waiting for microprocessors. Rust is visible on TFL press vehicles also. I have zero rust issues on my 2023 Bronco. But surface rust is found on other new trucks.
Have you owned both
As soon as I got my RR home from the dealer, I painted the drive shafts and a few other places showing some surface rust...ten minute job. The Australian and European trucks are painted from the factory.
Love your videos....Kirkland lake Ontario here
Thanks for watching!
I hope the new Hurricane engine will be available in the jeep soon .
Nothing like a jeep
The Pentastar for a high speed machine? I'll serve leftovers to my guests but won't say it's the best I can do.
The RR os hands down just the better vehicle. Period.
i wonder what my 2017 ZR2 would feel like in comparison to these two. or even a new ZR2 (not a heavy bison)
Will we be able to see Green, the 71', as well as the 24' 3500 Before summers out Steve ?? How's Howard these days??
great review Stephan/Howard , your dad is going to look like a second dart board after this video from all the mosquito bites, 😂 Ford has had their issues with the 3.0 twin turbo my brother was looking at either the Ranger Raptor or Bronco Raptor and the sales Rep advised against it , oh and it goes like stink no doubt, so he is waiting to see what Ford says about it, i think he is just going to take the Bronco with the twin turbo six its got tons of snot and is in the colour he likes, me i would take the Gladiator , i like the body style and the old school solid axles and for payload these easily take a 1000 pounds total with no issues or more and no turbos to consider just regular maintenance and Jeep has massive incentives right now , they're almost giving stuff away and i do agree with one commenter that Jeep should offer the new twin turbo i6 as an option for Jeep customers, I'll just take the V6 👍
FORD and JEEP pricing is too much here in Canada. I would buy the ZR2 Colorado and save 15K.
Like the Ford better! With a slight lift, the Raptor would have more clearance. It is a wide truck though and perhaps not the best for narrow mountain trails.
I own a 2021 Gladiator Mojave. Its a beast for sure but I'm giving it to my son and buying a new Ranger Raptor. Same color as the one in this video. Why? For exactly the reason the guy in video experienced - bouncy ride and under powered. In addition highway driving takes getting used to in the Gladiator as it meanders and has light steering. Don't get me wrong, the Gladiator is a fun vehicle especially here in Florida where you can remove the doors and roof virtually year round (maybe not so much in the summer with the humidity and daily down pours). The RR is an interesting truck and appears to ride and handle better than the Gladiator in all but the most extreme conditions.
Contest which one breaks down first 😅
Payload number is weird. I’ve always seen just under 1100 lbs for Mojaves. Maybe that over priced X package adds a bunch of weight? 🤷♂️
Did you have the off road plus enabled? It changes throttle and traction control behavior. Might have had some better results with that enabled.
What value do you give the fully convertible features of the Jeep? To me, that's what tips the scales in favor of the Glady
The jeep is simpler, jeep wins
Which truck has better cabin space for the driver?, I think my next truck is going to be something smaller, due price and I like to do on trails.
Yiu have great independent front suspension on the raptor and an axle on the gladiator so always will be better at speed. Hands down unless you have a 20k suspension on either...
But for the price difference alone the raptor is a better option but in the end it's never going to be a jeep you can't remove doors and roof and windshield down and you just don't belong. For the untrained it's just another mid size truck.
The jeep... You buy into a life style.
But as vehicles go the raptor is more complete more modern and better overall...
I Agree 👍
It would be great to see people remove the step and install some frame hugging rock rails..
Basically, put a levelling and some 315 70 17 on the Raptor cause clearance is the challenge
Why do you have 4H and in under 35mph? Shouldn't you be in 4L? Thanks
Give the Ranger raptor a 1 inch lift, more aggressive tires and a rock rail instead of side steps and she's the clear winner.
thats retarded, compare it to a diesel gladiator with a mopar lift from the factory and 37s then lol. It wouldnt be a contest on anything short of high speed shit which no one ever does
Also needs a removable roof.
@@hommedammn7132 I could care less about the removeable roof these days due to autoimmune skin disease and sunburn
Thanks Howard!! I also want your opinions!
Pretty sure the Gladiator Mojave was built for the desert…just my guess…
im a Jeep guy but price wise i would take the Ranger not even a contest
my head hurts so much watching these videos, so many out there, looking for an offroad rig to haul camping, fishing and hunting gear, i need a truck that can go everywhere, but i am 6'4", been hard to fit in any vehicle, i am a truck driver and barely fit in my freightliner cascadia to give you an idea, so cramping into a truck i can deal with, it is what it is, all trucks have "up's" and "down's" so the unlimited options on what to get is causing me headaches........talk about a first world problem to have! 🤣🤣🤣
Can y’all get ground clearance measurements from different spots under these trucks?
If I were in the market for something like this, the RR is a no brainer. Not sute what Stellantis is doing but hey are not enhancing the Jeep brand at all. In fact the opposite seems true.
Ranger Raptor for the WIN! One wish, Where’s the Sunroof FORD?
trucks should have same tires for tests.
The point is to test them as they come from the factory, right?
Are you buying the tires for less than a thousand miles of use? Are you going to ask Ford and Jeep for permission to alter their vehicles for UA-cam video?
Do you have any idea how impractical you sound?
Ranger Raptor all day!
Ranger Raptor for sure!