I just did this to my 2020 2.7 Liter F150. It immediately fixed it. No hard downshifts, and shifting was so smooth I couldn’t even tell when it was happening compared to before. A HUGE weight is off my shoulders now after spending 45K on a truck that would scare my wife and I with the random hard clunk downshifts. Not only the shifting, but general acceleration is fixed as well. PLEASE try this if you are having issues. Why FORD wouldn’t automatically do this when selling a used truck is beyond me. Thank you for the video bro.
Thanks for sharing. Purchased the usb adapter on eBay. Installed the forscan drivers on my laptop. Followed your instructions and noticed right away the hard shifting from 7 to 8 disappeared right away. Now it’s time for the transmission to learn my driving habits.
Tried it on my 2020 Ford F150 XLT 2.7L. I purchased it used with 35,000 on it. It shifted with frequent clunks. So I decided to try this out. It is literally just as easy as you showed it to be. Can't wait to see how it behaves for the next couple of weeks. UPDATE: After I reset the adaptive learning I noticed an IMMEDIATE improvement. It wasn't perfect but it was much much better. Then after about 9 days I realized that the shifting is now perfect. Guess it had to learn my driving specifics. I am VERY happy with how this worked out.
@@lyo1718if you have the 10 speed auto trans then ya? That is literally what the whole video is about bro… it you have the older trans 6 speed or 8 or whatever it was then this will not work as you don’t have this transmission.
Just purchased a used 2018 F150 with 3.5 eco boosts. Had the hard shifting issue. After doing this is is completely gone!! Works like a charm. Now shifts smooth like a new truck! THANKS!!!
After watching this video I reset the adaptive tables and drove my truck for a day. The transmission seemed to be working better overall. I then decided to turn off the adaptive fuction to the transmission all togather and found the transmission performace was greatly improved. The shifting was smooth and positive especially when driving around town.. The engine did not feel as it was bogging down due to the transmission shift so much smoother.
I would strongly recomend turning off the adaptive tables and give it a try. The transmission works so much smoother in all aspects. You can always turn the adaptie tables back on.
there is a learning procedure from ford for this, i work on them all the time and the learning procedure helps it so much more than just resetting it. reset it then drive it through all the gears ensuring it shifts between 1500-1800rpm and then lightly brake and allow it to shift down all the gears. then you use the shift lever to perform a sequence with the shifter. alot of the time it will skip second, that is normal. do this 6 times then it should help it alot
2019 F150 5.0 10 speed - Purchased used and my issue was hard shifting when coming to a stop. Following these steps my transmission shifts like new again. Also, took the suggestions from another video, with cold temp, started truck and let set for 5-10 seconds, shift into drive and drove with light throttle while going through the gears then slowing down to a stop going through the gears. When temp reach 160 used med. throttle and did the same, up through all the gears and down through all the gears. Gears 1 to 10 now shift smoothly through all of them up and down. Even though this video was 3 years ago, the video instructions were still the same today.
@@iced1614 Adaptive tables only. However, it seems to come back every 30-40 days and then I had to do it again. There’s also a software update that the dealership just did on mine and it seems to be working pretty well so far. I think Ford out smarted themselves on this tranny…
Just watched a video of a dude with this truck who went back and forth with the dealer until they told him we can reset the adaptive learning data AND TURN OFF future learning. Apparently it a simple setting that just takes a second in the software. It fixed his problems as well.. I am shopping these trucks now and learning about these issues before making my choice. Leaning towards 2017 F150 5.0L with the 6 speed tranny..
Friend, I have the same 2017 5.0 6 speed and I'm having the same problems that the others mention with the 10 speed. I'm going to try to reset the adoptive tables because in 5 and 6 it hits the changes slightly and also vibrates in some changes
Fantastic! Thank you for the video. Saw a lot of chatter about this fix out on the interwebs but this gave me the confidence to try it. It's like my '19 F150 XLT 2.7 EB is new again!
Took mine to a shop and had them reset the TCM. Fixed problem on 2020 F150. Was slamming gears up and down so bad I thought I was going to destroy driveline. Problem stated at 20k miles. Dealer was absolutely no help. Wanted to keep the truck for a week. This video told me what to do even though I didn’t do it myself. Cost less than $100 bucks and was in and out in a couple of hours. Warning, you may need to educate the shop on what the situation is. Some shops didn’t want to do it or couldn’t. Disconnecting battery and other tricks on my own were no help. You need to clear or reset the TCM. Does not affect warranty.
@@alhakamtahsin6195 I had a shop do it for $87. That was 7-8000 miles ago and I have had no problem since. Oddly enough, my rear diff is now making noise and I am in the same situation. The dealer listed to it and said something was wrong and they wanted to keep it for a week. I think the 10k miles of hard shifting could have damaged it. I am going to burn the rear diff down but you need to get the TCM reset asap.
@@patricktx3357 yesterday i reset the adaptive table , and drive it for about 20 minutes , everything smooth so far, the problem was with downshift it’s hard some times when i want to stop at stop sign , my car ford edge 2019 AWD.
Thanks for video. I reset my mustangs 10r80 transmission and also did the bambi light mode and took off the double honk. Great free program!! Car is shifting so much smoother its unbelievable.
Hi, I have a 19 GT also with the 10r80. After resetting the tcm is your car still shifting good. Or have you have to reset it again and again. I'm guessing this is something I will have to do weekly/monthly
@@GolfBertthanks for the reply. I tried clearing adaptive learning tables with forscan and can tell and huge difference so far. I know it's a matter of time before it relearns. I'm going to try what you did tomorrow. I believe it's called Halt adaptive learning but their is Adaptive learning off which is what I think I need to pick. Do you happen to know if using forscan to do this void your warranty?
@@user-bk5ey9ws5g dont know. my car is off warrantee. I would just put it back to learning if you have to bring car in for warrantee work....Halt works great for over 50 days now
Just did mine, 2020 ranger xlt, cleared it and shut truck off. Drove it around for about 20 mins and the clunking is gone (hard shift into 4th gear and clunk up hill in downshift from 6th to 5th) huge difference in how the transmission responds, and I definitely like the outcome. Hopefully it stays this way for a while. Was planning on doing more with FORScan but unfortunately due to the war right now you're unable to purchase the extended licenses (trial still works I do believe) thanks! Saves me from going to the dealer!
Thanks for the video. I want to try this on my 2020 edge st. I got the exact bs explanation from the dealer you described. Well worth the cost to try. It will be 150 to 200 bucks to evaluate. They will not even do the TSB without it, and if they deem it unnecessary, they charge you and do nothing. Just curious. Did this work for your truck?
In doing research on this for my 2019, I have found also that the Mustang 10 speed and outside of Ford, the 10 speed in the Chevy Silverado/GMC Sierra have the same exact issues. Apparently there is class action lawsuits around both Ford and Chevy.
Thanks for the video, I traded in my ram 1500 for a 2019 3.5 EB with the 10 speed and started to hate the way it drove about 2 days later. I was getting rough shifts up and down, also had a constant jerk while cruising at 45mph like it didn’t know what gear to be in. I got forscan and reset the adaptive tables and that did nothing. So I went back the next day and reset the PCM and TCM. That made a world of difference and it’s about 90 percent better. The truck is actually enjoyable to drive now.
@@georgiaboy3003 He blew it up during a full throttle shift, it chirped 2nd hard and when it hit 3rd gear, the trans grenaded. It was unreal. Anyways, I was with him when it happened and he wound up replacing the transmission with a new 10R80.
Thanks for the video. One (1) would think that a car assembled later (8/2018) would have the updated software ability versus one (1) assembled earlier.
ford escape 2015 se 1.6, 6F35 transmission; at 65000km mileage it started to shift hard 1-2 when stepping light on gas; did twice atf simple drain and fill but still shifts hard 1-2; but after I cleared transmission adaptive table with forscan, shifts were noticeably smoother and the hard shifting 1-2 disappeared.
I just went from 30 inch stock wheels (17") to 33's on Limited 20" wheels. It used to look like a big truck with little wheels. Now it looks correct. But now the shift points feel a little late, more clunky. I am going to try this.
Just got a 2021 F150. I find when it's downshift from 20mph to a stop sign I feel subtle jerking. It's not intense but annoying enough. Also can feel shifting on acceleration. Nothing intense but I never noticed it on any other car that I have driven before. I got the same exact story from the tech at Ford just like you said. I appreciate the video and may have to try this. Was so excited to get my first F150 but so far disappointed with the feel of the ten speed.
@@Chase-vl9cp I did get Forscan. I reset the adaptive tables but I don't notice a change. Im 7k in and I think I'm getting used to it. I definitely notice at times. It's just not smooth. It's less annoying after a while.
@@davidbrakefield188 I have forscan but i can only clear adaptive tables and that helps for a little while then you have to do it again. I could not find video how to completely disable it.
I have been hearing about Forscan for years and finally bought the USB/OBD adaptor. My '19 Ford F150 Raptor exhibited some weird, clunky shifting since I bought it 3 months ago. It got slightly better but occasionally would act up. Just reset my adaptive tables after watching your video. Let's hope it works. 😊
First, this issue is not limited to 10 speed auto trans. Mine is 2014 F150 King Ranch 4x4 with 3.5 eco boost. I do not pull trailers. I see this only at low speeds (parking lots). My dealer in JAX FL had it for 8 weeks. Gave it back to me still has same issue. The issue is not consistent. I can go months with no hard shifts then drove over a speed bump at 5 mph and BOOM! I have the 6 speed auto. It does have the trailer management system, but I don't pull trailers.
Omg I just did this to my 2020 Ford Expedition limited Max I had changed the dam trans fluid added additive to my trans as well because I was having hard shifting from 7th to 8th it had a loud thump to it and not it’s their anymore it’s like butter !! So happy now lol
Thanks for the reply. The adaptive learning isn't just for the transmission. It also controls the engines fuel management and torque output from the converter. If it were somehow disabled I think you would be creating a whole host of problems. However, I think a aftermarket tuner can fix the problem if you want to she'll out the $$$.
@@TheSwampStalker Really, so the Mexican guy on UA-cam got lied to by the dealership. ua-cam.com/video/lDQVg3vvLT4/v-deo.html Thats a bummer i just purchased the www.amazon.com/dp/B081VQVD3F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_RT4GKY9Z8FSQARKNTC1C. At least I can still reset the learned programming. I have a 19, 5.0 and it uses oil/knocking under the hood (what I have understood to be cylinder slap) and limp mode in low gears whenever cold. I appreciate the advice, thank you. 🙏
@@TheSwampStalker Transmissions and engines worked fine for years with set tables that weren't adaptive and didn't "learn" and shifted fine. They do way too much to please old grannies and stuff that don't want to "feel" shifting so they try to make them adapt to the driving style. Problem comes when you're like me and mostly try to drive with a light foot but sometimes want to enjoy my 5.0 and the computer isn't used to that.
@@JesusF150 absolutely not, using oil problems, shifting problems, internal engine noise rattle. Two mechanics and $3,800 later and the truck was worse than ever. I sold it and am back to my 05 jeep liberty with 215,000 miles. Thank you for the response but I now hate Ford. 😥
I’m wanting to do this to mine I was wondering witch reader you guys are using because I don’t wanna end up buying the wrong model and being able to fix it
Thanks for the video. That’s exactly what my dealer did for my 2019 GT - way smoother now. I’m just wondering if the dealer has any problem while doing service under warranty when the customer used Forescan by himself. Just wondering.
My 2015 f150 feels like it's skipping as i'm on the accelerator. Basically it feels like i'm driving on rocks occasionally when I'm really on a smooth road. Is this the kind of problem this video is referring to and does it apply to my 2015 model? Thanks for the help!
Hello everyone, I have the same problem with bumpy or abrupt changes, but my F150 is a 2017 with the 6R80. It seems that many say that the reset solves the problem, but with the 10-speed, do you think it's the same?
Did that, it worked great for 2 weeks. Then went back to the bang, thunk. The dealer wants another shot at a fix. They also did the valve body rebuild. Same thing great improvement at first. Then it started again and now it is worse than when it started. upshift, bang, clunk, downshift the same. I am going to ask to stop the program and let it shift on its own. There are many that have said that it solved the problem.
Any update or recommendations? My 2019 Raptor has been with Ford for the past 4 months. Latest being the valve body rebuild. Lasted 8 glorious days before the performance and shifting issues came back
@@jonathanlomax9156 Update- after the third re-visit. The dealer turned over the issue to Ford. They called and told me a new tranny is on the way. Should be here by August.
There are updates i’ve had my truck at the dealership twice and both times they were able to clear and install transmission software updates the problem is ford is not reaching to the dealerships to tell them or the customers they just send the updates to the shop via internet so if they hook up your truck it will pop up on the scan tool that there is an update that’s the only way of knowing now if your dealership sucks that’s of no help my truck shifts a 100 times better but i still need my tables reset the mechanic states unhook battery to reset them you cannot do that to these trucks anymore it has its own built in involuntal if i said that right memory so unhooking the battery does nothing hope this helps some of you out how does one go about clearing the adaptive tables what equipment do i need what scan tool to plug in do i need besides a laptop could you fill me in on all of it please and thank you
En mi caso me Funcionó en mi F150 2017 Platinum con excepcion de que reinicie lo siguiente: 1 ) Restablece los 3 "PCM" que aparecen. 2 ) De los "TCM" todos los que digan adaptative hay que reiniciarlos son 4 3 ) Restablece el que se llama TCM Module Reboot Con esto quedaría resuelto el problema , en mi caso si no más restableces Adaptative Tables el problema va a volver.
This doesn't work. Keeps saying connection interrupted. I got the car recently from a dealer. I wonder if ford put a lock on their file in a recent update so it can only be touched by their service techs? Also apparently my TCS light is "malfunctioning" so well that is an easy way to hide issues from me.
I have a 20 3.5 Eco F150 with 10R 80. From new it had hard shifts, clunking i/o of park, and trans shatter noises, etc. At 5,500 mi. after the dealer run around I replaced all fluids with Amsoil and cleared/retrained the trans programing and all better now +very enjoyable to drive. Also have a '21 F 250 7.3 gas KR w/10 R 140. Pretty much the same issues but more intense/loud/often. It also kept hanging in 5th gear (requiering throttle play to resolve) while in tow haul mode. Replaced all fluids w/Amsoil and cleared trans patters. After ~ 300 miles all good. It is a monster and not as enjoyable to drive as the 150 Platinum. No idea if both w/Amsoil or the reprograming did the tricks. Year, I know ULV and Amsoil trans fluds differ in some regards but I have been using Amsoil fluds for almost 20 years in cars and truck = never a proble,,, Wow went to Blistein 4600 shocks on the f250 = what an improvement in ride and controle over OEM!!!!!
Ron I have the same f150 as yours and I too have hang time between 3rd and 5th shift and clunking and weird shifting. What did you do to retrain/reset transmission?
I took both 150 and later 250 to dealer. I changed two variables so which or a combo resolved the issues or both I am unable to attest to ((AMSOIL trans. fluid and dealer reset of transmission shift profile to learning mode). On both, once reset to learning mode I was told to remain in Normal mode (no T/H or towing) and drive normally for 250 miles - not just highway. All got gradually better and after ~ 350 miles all resolved. Note: Amsoil low vis. trans. fluid is approved/backed by Amsoil for both the 10R80 and 10 R 140 10 speed transmissions. Ford will not comment other than if the Amsoil is found to have created a problem Ford will not back it. But, the operating temp vis. is higher than OEM Motorcraft ULV. I researched the heck out of this and went with Amsoil. If you go with Amsoil use your own judgement on which to loose. Maybe have dealer do reset and go thhough learning phase and if that does not work do a different trans. fluid (ull flush) and have them reset again. No big deal on reset it took max 10 min. The process/equipment for Ford 10 speed fluid changes must be done by Ford = equipment/temp ranges/etc. Not like the old days....
Ron sounds like I’m gonna have some downtime ahead of me! Your amsoil fluid change sounds like a great idea when I had my 17’ mustang gt the manual transmission needed the same thing done a fluid change to a better fluid which I switched it to royal purple at the time and it made switching gears ⚙️ night and day difference. Something about fords fluids just don’t really meet the demand of their products not sure if the engineers did that on purpose to make parts wear out faster? Which would sound about right haha
@@phishynate6053 Down time - for me it was one day in shop for each. Likley could have waited .... as they billed 1.25 hrs for fluid change and 15 min for reset.
i was thinking about going to amsoil tranny fluid it says it’s compatible with ULV but my truck is still under warranty i had a second update done it has helped a lot would like to have my adaptive tables reset not sure how to go about that way tools and scan tool equipment is needed
How long does it take for the truck to be done "relearning"? My dealership has done so many relearns and telling me I have to drive it like 1500kms that they're just trying to mile out my truck so it is out of warranty and they don't need to fix the actual problem. So how many kms does it take to actually relearn so I can say look it's still doing it, fix it properly.
They did my 3.5TT 10 speed tsb which reset the phazers and trannie, it worked for a few month but trannie back to thumping in 5th and eight, and shift harder in sport mode. Do you know how to turn off the adaptive shift mode?
I did something similar towing a u-haul while moving... accidentally drove on normal mode. Recently put the truck it into tow haul mode with my boat (16ft aluminum so light) and the gears were slamming like crazy on down shift. What do you use to connect your PC to the truck? And where did you get FORScan from? My dealership gave me the runaround too... 2018, XLT loaded and only has 25k miles. The truck shouldn’t be giving me any trouble.
You can get an adapter off of amazon. Just search for 'FORScan OBD2 Adapter'. There are several to choose from. They all do the same thing. Mine is the ELM327. The forescan is a free download. Just google it and you will see their website. They have a forum that has all the info you will need to get it downloaded and setup. Good luck. It is unfortunate that Ford hasn't come up with a software update to fix the issue. Especially considering Chevy trucks use the exact same transmission, but the software they developed has none of these issues.
@@TheSwampStalker awesome, thank you! Yes truly disappointing they aren’t willing to admit their mistake and put out a firmware or hardware fix. I get that recalls are expensive but the f150 is their bread and butter. They really should at least do a rolling service bulletin.
I have 21 250 6.7 with 10r140, first transmission died after 4k, 6 week wait to get it replaced (in Las Cruces NM). The second transmission started shifting like crap after about 3k, got a tech in Weatherford OK to clear the codes and it got butter smooth immediately. Had the truck in the shop for 2 week for windshield leak and now it is shifting like crap again, but now I have forescan and will clear adaptive tables tomorrow.
can i do that with the free month of forscan? Or do I have to pay the license for a month or a year? because with free forscan for one month there are some things that i can't modify with forscan, if anyone knows let me know please
Tried this on my f150. Did seem to help. Still really bad clunk from 3-5 and on yhe interstate very loud clunk from 7-8. Think my 10r80 is just broke at this point
@@J.D.25 had a question. After you clear the adaptive learning. How do you completely turn off the adaptive learning capabilities? Does that give you the option in the free forscan?
All who have a faulty 10spd transmission!! Contact ford! Let them know your issues so it can get recalled and we can get refunded for all our repairs and replacements and rebuilds!! The squeaky wheel gets the oil!!!
I was under the impression that the adaptives are for the computer to adjust for clutch wear, and adjusts the pressure and speeds of the shifts…like you shouldn’t do this on an old transmission, and ONLY do it when it is replaced.
I’m having this issue on my 2019 f150. What scan tool should I get to fix this myself? Can I get a lower end cheap one or do I need to get a specific or higher end version?
@@TheSwampStalker yes it is I’m trying to figure out what’s going on with it I’m thinking map sensor but I’d think it would throw a code the one that was in the back of the Throttlebody was dirty and the two in front where like new.. I did see the one by the Throttlebody and behind it are the same so swapped positions today to test them out seems to be running good today
i did reset the adaptive table and i got this error. ===TCM DTC P160A:00-ED=== Code: P160A - Control Module Vehicle Options Reconfiguration Error Status (-ED): - DTC Present at Time of Request - Malfunction Indicator Lamp is On for this DTC - Test not complete Module: Transmission Control Module ===END TCM DTC P160A:00-ED=== ===PCM DTC P0630:00-AF=== Code: P0630 - VIN Not Programmed or Incompatible - ECM/PCM Status (-AF): - DTC Present at Time of Request - Malfunction Indicator Lamp is On for this DTC Module: Powertrain Control Module ===END PCM DTC P0630:00-AF=== ===PCM DTC U0422:00-2F=== Code: U0422 - Invalid Data Received From Body Control Module Status (-2F): - DTC Present at Time of Request - Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC Module: Powertrain Control Module ===END PCM DTC U0422:00-2F=== Any solution for this?
I just did this to my 2020 2.7 Liter F150. It immediately fixed it. No hard downshifts, and shifting was so smooth I couldn’t even tell when it was happening compared to before.
A HUGE weight is off my shoulders now after spending 45K on a truck that would scare my wife and I with the random hard clunk downshifts. Not only the shifting, but general acceleration is fixed as well.
PLEASE try this if you are having issues. Why FORD wouldn’t automatically do this when selling a used truck is beyond me.
Thank you for the video bro.
Any updates??
Thanks for sharing. Purchased the usb adapter on eBay. Installed the forscan drivers on my laptop. Followed your instructions and noticed right away the hard shifting from 7 to 8 disappeared right away. Now it’s time for the transmission to learn my driving habits.
Tried it on my 2020 Ford F150 XLT 2.7L. I purchased it used with 35,000 on it. It shifted with frequent clunks. So I decided to try this out. It is literally just as easy as you showed it to be. Can't wait to see how it behaves for the next couple of weeks. UPDATE: After I reset the adaptive learning I noticed an IMMEDIATE improvement. It wasn't perfect but it was much much better. Then after about 9 days I realized that the shifting is now perfect. Guess it had to learn my driving specifics. I am VERY happy with how this worked out.
Hi I have 2017 f150 , is it anyway to do this shifting update through forscan without have to dealing with ford ?
@@lyo1718if you have the 10 speed auto trans then ya? That is literally what the whole video is about bro… it you have the older trans 6 speed or 8 or whatever it was then this will not work as you don’t have this transmission.
Just purchased a used 2018 F150 with 3.5 eco boosts. Had the hard shifting issue. After doing this is is completely gone!! Works like a charm. Now shifts smooth like a new truck! THANKS!!!
Great video. Worked like a charm. Literally a day away from trading my truck in. Now it drives like new.
After watching this video I reset the adaptive tables and drove my truck for a day. The transmission seemed to be working better overall. I then decided to turn off the adaptive fuction to the transmission all togather and found the transmission performace was greatly improved. The shifting was smooth and positive especially when driving around town.. The engine did not feel as it was bogging down due to the transmission shift so much smoother.
What do you mean shut it off?
im going to try that function. I think that function is right under the relearn transmiission function
Dealership said, they couldn't do it. Is it because I have a Roush SC tuner? Just wondering 🤔
Where you able to completely turn off the adaptive learning with forscan. I would love to be able to do this to my 19 Mustang gt 10speeds
@user-bk5ey9ws5g yes I paused it. Been good for over a month
I would strongly recomend turning off the adaptive tables and give it a try. The transmission works so much smoother in all aspects. You can always turn the adaptie tables back on.
Does for scan have the ability to turn off adaptive learning completely. I thought you can only reset it.
Won’t it harm the transmission on the long run?
there is a learning procedure from ford for this, i work on them all the time and the learning procedure helps it so much more than just resetting it. reset it then drive it through all the gears ensuring it shifts between 1500-1800rpm and then lightly brake and allow it to shift down all the gears. then you use the shift lever to perform a sequence with the shifter. alot of the time it will skip second, that is normal. do this 6 times then it should help it alot
2019 F150 5.0 10 speed - Purchased used and my issue was hard shifting when coming to a stop. Following these steps my transmission shifts like new again. Also, took the suggestions from another video, with cold temp, started truck and let set for 5-10 seconds, shift into drive and drove with light throttle while going through the gears then slowing down to a stop going through the gears. When temp reach 160 used med. throttle and did the same, up through all the gears and down through all the gears. Gears 1 to 10 now shift smoothly through all of them up and down. Even though this video was 3 years ago, the video instructions were still the same today.
Just did this on my 17’ Raptor. Literally feels like I have a brand new truck. Best $60 I ever spent! Thank you.
Cole, Theres about 3 options for the TCM reset, which one did you do? 1) Adaptive Tables? 2) Module Reset? 3) All Adaptations?
@@iced1614 Adaptive tables only. However, it seems to come back every 30-40 days and then I had to do it again. There’s also a software update that the dealership just did on mine and it seems to be working pretty well so far. I think Ford out smarted themselves on this tranny…
@Legos37 the jury is still out on that… it’s been close to two months and I haven’t had to yet.
@@diald22 What model of FORscan did you buy by chance? Looking online and see a few different ones
@@datboymike806bmeBuy the one that forscan recommends on their website
Just did this on my 2018 5.0 and it worked instantly! So much smoother than the hard jerks. Thanks!
Just watched a video of a dude with this truck who went back and forth with the dealer until they told him we can reset the adaptive learning data AND TURN OFF future learning. Apparently it a simple setting that just takes a second in the software. It fixed his problems as well.. I am shopping these trucks now and learning about these issues before making my choice. Leaning towards 2017 F150 5.0L with the 6 speed tranny..
Friend, I have the same 2017 5.0 6 speed and I'm having the same problems that the others mention with the 10 speed. I'm going to try to reset the adoptive tables because in 5 and 6 it hits the changes slightly and also vibrates in some changes
Fantastic! Thank you for the video. Saw a lot of chatter about this fix out on the interwebs but this gave me the confidence to try it. It's like my '19 F150 XLT 2.7 EB is new again!
Did u see improvement right away?
Just did my 2017 F150 5.0. Bought it with 100k miles. Much better now! Thanks man.
Took mine to a shop and had them reset the TCM. Fixed problem on 2020 F150. Was slamming gears up and down so bad I thought I was going to destroy driveline. Problem stated at 20k miles. Dealer was absolutely no help. Wanted to keep the truck for a week. This video told me what to do even though I didn’t do it myself. Cost less than $100 bucks and was in and out in a couple of hours. Warning, you may need to educate the shop on what the situation is. Some shops didn’t want to do it or couldn’t. Disconnecting battery and other tricks on my own were no help. You need to clear or reset the TCM. Does not affect warranty.
Are you sure , if I reset the TCM by my self will not affect the warranty?
@@alhakamtahsin6195 I had a shop do it for $87. That was 7-8000 miles ago and I have had no problem since. Oddly enough, my rear diff is now making noise and I am in the same situation. The dealer listed to it and said something was wrong and they wanted to keep it for a week. I think the 10k miles of hard shifting could have damaged it. I am going to burn the rear diff down but you need to get the TCM reset asap.
@@patricktx3357 yesterday i reset the adaptive table , and drive it for about 20 minutes , everything smooth so far, the problem was with downshift it’s hard some times when i want to stop at stop sign , my car ford edge 2019 AWD.
Thanks for video. I reset my mustangs 10r80 transmission and also did the bambi light mode and took off the double honk. Great free program!! Car is shifting so much smoother its unbelievable.
Hi, I have a 19 GT also with the 10r80. After resetting the tcm is your car still shifting good. Or have you have to reset it again and again. I'm guessing this is something I will have to do weekly/monthly
@user-bk5ey9ws5g just did it once and still working great. I forget if its called stop or pause. But it's working really good
@@GolfBertthanks for the reply. I tried clearing adaptive learning tables with forscan and can tell and huge difference so far. I know it's a matter of time before it relearns. I'm going to try what you did tomorrow. I believe it's called Halt adaptive learning but their is Adaptive learning off which is what I think I need to pick. Do you happen to know if using forscan to do this void your warranty?
@@user-bk5ey9ws5g dont know. my car is off warrantee. I would just put it back to learning if you have to bring car in for warrantee work....Halt works great for over 50 days now
I'm not sure who thought it was a good idea to call their software FORScan 🤣
I think it was a Jewish engineer.
@@jebsdaddy141 It's their rosebud
Right?!
Could have called it circumcised
🤣😂
Just did mine. What a great fix!
7 months later?
Just did mine, 2020 ranger xlt, cleared it and shut truck off. Drove it around for about 20 mins and the clunking is gone (hard shift into 4th gear and clunk up hill in downshift from 6th to 5th) huge difference in how the transmission responds, and I definitely like the outcome. Hopefully it stays this way for a while. Was planning on doing more with FORScan but unfortunately due to the war right now you're unable to purchase the extended licenses (trial still works I do believe) thanks! Saves me from going to the dealer!
Thank you I have 2019 ford ranger And same problem got the fords scan waiting ob2 Amazon that need get :-) hope it fix problem
Where do I get the free trial?
Thanks for the video. I want to try this on my 2020 edge st. I got the exact bs explanation from the dealer you described. Well worth the cost to try. It will be 150 to 200 bucks to evaluate. They will not even do the TSB without it, and if they deem it unnecessary, they charge you and do nothing. Just curious. Did this work for your truck?
In doing research on this for my 2019, I have found also that the Mustang 10 speed and outside of Ford, the 10 speed in the Chevy Silverado/GMC Sierra have the same exact issues. Apparently there is class action lawsuits around both Ford and Chevy.
Thanks for the video, I traded in my ram 1500 for a 2019 3.5 EB with the 10 speed and started to hate the way it drove about 2 days later. I was getting rough shifts up and down, also had a constant jerk while cruising at 45mph like it didn’t know what gear to be in. I got forscan and reset the adaptive tables and that did nothing. So I went back the next day and reset the PCM and TCM. That made a world of difference and it’s about 90 percent better. The truck is actually enjoyable to drive now.
I can’t find the TCM …. Did you mean TCU?
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Update?
@@georgiaboy3003 He blew it up during a full throttle shift, it chirped 2nd hard and when it hit 3rd gear, the trans grenaded. It was unreal. Anyways, I was with him when it happened and he wound up replacing the transmission with a new 10R80.
Do warranty companies have a way of seeing this?
Thanks for the video. One (1) would think that a car assembled later (8/2018) would have the updated software ability versus one (1) assembled earlier.
You are making too much sense!
it does the dealership doesn’t know what it’s talking about i’ve had 2 updates done on mine
ford escape 2015 se 1.6, 6F35 transmission; at 65000km mileage it started to shift hard 1-2 when stepping light on gas; did twice atf simple drain and fill but still shifts hard 1-2; but after I cleared transmission adaptive table with forscan, shifts were noticeably smoother and the hard shifting 1-2 disappeared.
I just went from 30 inch stock wheels (17") to 33's on Limited 20" wheels. It used to look like a big truck with little wheels. Now it looks correct. But now the shift points feel a little late, more clunky. I am going to try this.
Just got a 2021 F150. I find when it's downshift from 20mph to a stop sign I feel subtle jerking. It's not intense but annoying enough. Also can feel shifting on acceleration. Nothing intense but I never noticed it on any other car that I have driven before. I got the same exact story from the tech at Ford just like you said. I appreciate the video and may have to try this. Was so excited to get my first F150 but so far disappointed with the feel of the ten speed.
Hey I'm experiencing almost exactly this!! Any update on how it went?? Wondering if I should purchase forscan tool to do it myslef?
@@Chase-vl9cp I did get Forscan. I reset the adaptive tables but I don't notice a change. Im 7k in and I think I'm getting used to it. I definitely notice at times. It's just not smooth. It's less annoying after a while.
So did this work?
Hi. Do you know how to permanently disable adaptive learning. Problems keep coming back after a week or two. Thanks G
There is a video on you tube that tells you how to do it but I think you need forescan.
@@davidbrakefield188 I have forscan but i can only clear adaptive tables and that helps for a little while then you have to do it again. I could not find video how to completely disable it.
I have been hearing about Forscan for years and finally bought the USB/OBD adaptor.
My '19 Ford F150 Raptor exhibited some weird, clunky shifting since I bought it 3 months ago. It got slightly better but occasionally would act up.
Just reset my adaptive tables after watching your video. Let's hope it works. 😊
How did it do!?
First, this issue is not limited to 10 speed auto trans. Mine is 2014 F150 King Ranch 4x4 with 3.5 eco boost. I do not pull trailers. I see this only at low speeds (parking lots). My dealer in JAX FL had it for 8 weeks. Gave it back to me still has same issue. The issue is not consistent. I can go months with no hard shifts then drove over a speed bump at 5 mph and BOOM! I have the 6 speed auto. It does have the trailer management system, but I don't pull trailers.
Omg I just did this to my 2020 Ford Expedition limited Max I had changed the dam trans fluid added additive to my trans as well because I was having hard shifting from 7th to 8th it had a loud thump to it and not it’s their anymore it’s like butter !! So happy now lol
How’s your expedition now ? I plan on doing this to my 20 also
Have you tried turning off adaptive learning? I watched a video where it completely fixed his rough shifting problem. Thank you.
Thanks for the reply. The adaptive learning isn't just for the transmission. It also controls the engines fuel management and torque output from the converter. If it were somehow disabled I think you would be creating a whole host of problems. However, I think a aftermarket tuner can fix the problem if you want to she'll out the $$$.
@@TheSwampStalker Really, so the Mexican guy on UA-cam got lied to by the dealership. ua-cam.com/video/lDQVg3vvLT4/v-deo.html Thats a bummer i just purchased the www.amazon.com/dp/B081VQVD3F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_RT4GKY9Z8FSQARKNTC1C. At least I can still reset the learned programming. I have a 19, 5.0 and it uses oil/knocking under the hood (what I have understood to be cylinder slap) and limp mode in low gears whenever cold. I appreciate the advice, thank you. 🙏
@@TheSwampStalker Transmissions and engines worked fine for years with set tables that weren't adaptive and didn't "learn" and shifted fine. They do way too much to please old grannies and stuff that don't want to "feel" shifting so they try to make them adapt to the driving style. Problem comes when you're like me and mostly try to drive with a light foot but sometimes want to enjoy my 5.0 and the computer isn't used to that.
@@themaclakuss2026 did u solved the issue my friend?
@@JesusF150 absolutely not, using oil problems, shifting problems, internal engine noise rattle. Two mechanics and $3,800 later and the truck was worse than ever. I sold it and am back to my 05 jeep liberty with 215,000 miles. Thank you for the response but I now hate Ford. 😥
Wonder if this will fix a torque converter shudder as well. Ive been getting. Constant vibration at highway speeds and it’s driving me nuts
Did this work well ? I’m having the same problem. Mine is 2020 not even 12,000 miles
How did you get the app to use your computer as a scan tool?
with what cable did you scan?
Thanks for the vid. I found that after clearing the adaptive memory I also needed to reset the PCM. Without the reset the same issues returned.
@marius evangelista 6 months later?
Fixed?
I’m wanting to do this to mine I was wondering witch reader you guys are using because I don’t wanna end up buying the wrong model and being able to fix it
Thanks for the video. That’s exactly what my dealer did for my 2019 GT - way smoother now. I’m just wondering if the dealer has any problem while doing service under warranty when the customer used Forescan by himself. Just wondering.
That's a good question. You wouldn't think so, but you never know with dealerships.
11 months later?
So my car it says service procedure has been interrupted when I do this 😐any thoughts
My 2015 f150 feels like it's skipping as i'm on the accelerator. Basically it feels like i'm driving on rocks occasionally when I'm really on a smooth road. Is this the kind of problem this video is referring to and does it apply to my 2015 model? Thanks for the help!
Would this works on a F150 2016 6 speed transmission? Kindly reply
How did you search for updates from ford? Is there a way to search online to see if there’s transmission software updates?
Hello everyone, I have the same problem with bumpy or abrupt changes, but my F150 is a 2017 with the 6R80. It seems that many say that the reset solves the problem, but with the 10-speed, do you think it's the same?
2021 mustang ecoboost 10speed. When slowing down its jerking 3-2-1speed. Slamming 1speed to early??? Help please
I have the same problem with my edge 2019 ecoboost , did you solve it?
Did that, it worked great for 2 weeks. Then went back to the bang, thunk. The dealer wants another shot at a fix. They also did the valve body rebuild. Same thing great improvement at first. Then it started again and now it is worse than when it started. upshift, bang, clunk, downshift the same. I am going to ask to stop the program and let it shift on its own. There are many that have said that it solved the problem.
Any update or recommendations? My 2019 Raptor has been with Ford for the past 4 months. Latest being the valve body rebuild. Lasted 8 glorious days before the performance and shifting issues came back
@@jonathanlomax9156 Update- after the third re-visit. The dealer turned over the issue to Ford. They called and told me a new tranny is on the way. Should be here by August.
There are updates i’ve had my truck at the dealership twice and both times they were able to clear and install transmission software updates the problem is ford is not reaching to the dealerships to tell them or the customers they just send the updates to the shop via internet so if they hook up your truck it will pop up on the scan tool that there is an update that’s the only way of knowing now if your dealership sucks that’s of no help my truck shifts a 100 times better but i still need my tables reset the mechanic states unhook battery to reset them you cannot do that to these trucks anymore it has its own built in involuntal if i said that right memory so unhooking the battery does nothing hope this helps some of you out how does one go about clearing the adaptive tables what equipment do i need what scan tool to plug in do i need besides a laptop could you fill me in on all of it please and thank you
Can I just unplug the battery for a day? Or does that not work?
Can you tell us which scannerr you haveand where you purchased it
En mi caso me Funcionó en mi F150 2017 Platinum con excepcion de que reinicie lo siguiente:
1 ) Restablece los 3 "PCM" que aparecen.
2 ) De los "TCM" todos los que digan adaptative hay que reiniciarlos son 4
3 ) Restablece el que se llama TCM Module Reboot
Con esto quedaría resuelto el problema , en mi caso si no más restableces Adaptative Tables el problema va a volver.
Did you do this on a cold start or while at operating temp
Did it help? How about a follow up video or at least a pinned comment? Thx
This doesn't work. Keeps saying connection interrupted. I got the car recently from a dealer. I wonder if ford put a lock on their file in a recent update so it can only be touched by their service techs? Also apparently my TCS light is "malfunctioning" so well that is an easy way to hide issues from me.
hi i have this trouble i think i lost calibration with forscan how recover ford expedition 2018 10 speed i dont see the option you say
Can this be done without forscan? I’ve read that completely disconnecting battery can also hard reset the adaptive learning
Nope
How much did all of this cost you? Equipment... program
Is there a way to turn off the learning?
I have a 20 3.5 Eco F150 with 10R 80. From new it had hard shifts, clunking i/o of park, and trans shatter noises, etc. At 5,500 mi. after the dealer run around I replaced all fluids with Amsoil and cleared/retrained the trans programing and all better now +very enjoyable to drive. Also have a '21 F 250 7.3 gas KR w/10 R 140. Pretty much the same issues but more intense/loud/often. It also kept hanging in 5th gear (requiering throttle play to resolve) while in tow haul mode. Replaced all fluids w/Amsoil and cleared trans patters. After ~ 300 miles all good. It is a monster and not as enjoyable to drive as the 150 Platinum. No idea if both w/Amsoil or the reprograming did the tricks. Year, I know ULV and Amsoil trans fluds differ in some regards but I have been using Amsoil fluds for almost 20 years in cars and truck = never a proble,,, Wow went to Blistein 4600 shocks on the f250 = what an improvement in ride and controle over OEM!!!!!
Ron I have the same f150 as yours and I too have hang time between 3rd and 5th shift and clunking and weird shifting. What did you do to retrain/reset transmission?
I took both 150 and later 250 to dealer. I changed two variables so which or a combo resolved the issues or both I am unable to attest to ((AMSOIL trans. fluid and dealer reset of transmission shift profile to learning mode). On both, once reset to learning mode I was told to remain in Normal mode (no T/H or towing) and drive normally for 250 miles - not just highway. All got gradually better and after ~ 350 miles all resolved. Note: Amsoil low vis. trans. fluid is approved/backed by Amsoil for both the 10R80 and 10 R 140 10 speed transmissions. Ford will not comment other than if the Amsoil is found to have created a problem Ford will not back it. But, the operating temp vis. is higher than OEM Motorcraft ULV. I researched the heck out of this and went with Amsoil. If you go with Amsoil use your own judgement on which to loose. Maybe have dealer do reset and go thhough learning phase and if that does not work do a different trans. fluid (ull flush) and have them reset again. No big deal on reset it took max 10 min. The process/equipment for Ford 10 speed fluid changes must be done by Ford = equipment/temp ranges/etc. Not like the old days....
Ron sounds like I’m gonna have some downtime ahead of me!
Your amsoil fluid change sounds like a great idea when I had my 17’ mustang gt the manual transmission needed the same thing done a fluid change to a better fluid which I switched it to royal purple at the time and it made switching gears ⚙️ night and day difference. Something about fords fluids just don’t really meet the demand of their products not sure if the engineers did that on purpose to make parts wear out faster? Which would sound about right haha
@@phishynate6053 Down time - for me it was one day in shop for each. Likley could have waited .... as they billed 1.25 hrs for fluid change and 15 min for reset.
i was thinking about going to amsoil tranny fluid it says it’s compatible with ULV but my truck is still under warranty i had a second update done it has helped a lot would like to have my adaptive tables reset not sure how to go about that way tools and scan tool equipment is needed
How long does it take for the truck to be done "relearning"? My dealership has done so many relearns and telling me I have to drive it like 1500kms that they're just trying to mile out my truck so it is out of warranty and they don't need to fix the actual problem. So how many kms does it take to actually relearn so I can say look it's still doing it, fix it properly.
How do I connect my laptop to my truck??
Can i do this with tuned car
They did my 3.5TT 10 speed tsb which reset the phazers and trannie, it worked for a few month but trannie back to thumping in 5th and eight, and shift harder in sport mode. Do you know how to turn off the adaptive shift mode?
Which FORscan do you use?
Where do I buy for scan to be able to do this and where does it plug into my truck
Do you know if it possible to do this with the iOS app and a FORScan adapter? I don’t own a pc anymore
I did something similar towing a u-haul while moving... accidentally drove on normal mode. Recently put the truck it into tow haul mode with my boat (16ft aluminum so light) and the gears were slamming like crazy on down shift.
What do you use to connect your PC to the truck? And where did you get FORScan from? My dealership gave me the runaround too... 2018, XLT loaded and only has 25k miles. The truck shouldn’t be giving me any trouble.
You can get an adapter off of amazon. Just search for 'FORScan OBD2 Adapter'. There are several to choose from. They all do the same thing. Mine is the ELM327. The forescan is a free download. Just google it and you will see their website. They have a forum that has all the info you will need to get it downloaded and setup. Good luck. It is unfortunate that Ford hasn't come up with a software update to fix the issue. Especially considering Chevy trucks use the exact same transmission, but the software they developed has none of these issues.
@@TheSwampStalker awesome, thank you! Yes truly disappointing they aren’t willing to admit their mistake and put out a firmware or hardware fix. I get that recalls are expensive but the f150 is their bread and butter. They really should at least do a rolling service bulletin.
Worked for me, thank you.
Does this void the warranty?
What model is this tool? Where do I buy it?
Is this the same as "flashing" the TCM? Or is this "relearning"? Neither? Please let me know, thanks!
How do I connect it to the truck?
Does this work on the 6r80 also?
Yes it does.
Thanks for the help. Just did it myself. Fingers crossed.
Doesn't look like it worked for me. I hope you have better luck!
@@TheSwampStalker the dealer did the newer tsb's 5 months ago and the shitty shifting is back.
What adapter did you purchase?
I have 21 250 6.7 with 10r140, first transmission died after 4k, 6 week wait to get it replaced (in Las Cruces NM). The second transmission started shifting like crap after about 3k, got a tech in Weatherford OK to clear the codes and it got butter smooth immediately. Had the truck in the shop for 2 week for windshield leak and now it is shifting like crap again, but now I have forescan and will clear adaptive tables tomorrow.
what scantool/ part number scan tool and model do you have
Does this work for 2020 5.0?
Are you not voiding the warranty by doing this?
Where I can get that scan tool?
can i do that with the free month of forscan? Or do I have to pay the license for a month or a year? because with free forscan for one month there are some things that i can't modify with forscan, if anyone knows let me know please
My vehicle slams into third gear from fourth when I come to a moderate stop, and it doesn’t feel right.
Same, I'm taking mine to dealer next week. My build Date is Mar '18 I'm gonna get the software update, $150. We'll see what happens.
After resetting on expedition, tailgate won't open .
.how to rest tailgate module
..I think tailgate module ,won't reading ,car is in parking or not
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You broke it.
@Desert Medic what broke...how to fix?
Tried this on my f150. Did seem to help. Still really bad clunk from 3-5 and on yhe interstate very loud clunk from 7-8. Think my 10r80 is just broke at this point
Mine is still better than it was, but still not where it should be. At this point I am just hoping Ford eventually gets it figured out.
@@TheSwampStalker yeah think there is a issue with the 10r80 in general. Gm backed out of using it now
Great video. To the point and most of all it fixed my problem. I was ready to trade this piece of crap in on a Toyota
I just turned it off completely, anyone else do this in forscan?
How does it work? Considering doing this
Any updates
thanks a lot
Update? Did this work?
Unfortunately, after several attempts I could not get it to stop completely. I ended up trading it in due to the crazy value of used trucks right now.
@@TheSwampStalker What did you trade it in for?
How can you connect to your pc
What software is it Fordscan or forscan?
Forscan.
Can you turn off the adaptive learning completely
Were you able to turn it off?
How often will this need to be done?
Once you clear the adaptive clearing tables, take it a step further and turn off the adaptive learning capabilities. Fixed for good!
@@J.D.25como se hace?
@@J.D.25 had a question. After you clear the adaptive learning. How do you completely turn off the adaptive learning capabilities? Does that give you the option in the free forscan?
All who have a faulty 10spd transmission!!
Contact ford! Let them know your issues so it can get recalled and we can get refunded for all our repairs and replacements and rebuilds!!
The squeaky wheel gets the oil!!!
I was under the impression that the adaptives are for the computer to adjust for clutch wear, and adjusts the pressure and speeds of the shifts…like you shouldn’t do this on an old transmission, and ONLY do it when it is replaced.
Where the updated video?
how do you connect your laptop to your truck
If you search Forescan on Amazon, you will see several different cables for connecting your vehicle.
I’m having this issue on my 2019 f150. What scan tool should I get to fix this myself? Can I get a lower end cheap one or do I need to get a specific or higher end version?
This resolve your issue
My trucks shifting hard up and down and likes to stay in 7th gear it’s a 2018 2.7 it’s getting bad mpg too 12.6mpg only has 35k on it
@@TheSwampStalker yes it is I’m trying to figure out what’s going on with it I’m thinking map sensor but I’d think it would throw a code the one that was in the back of the Throttlebody was dirty and the two in front where like new.. I did see the one by the Throttlebody and behind it are the same so swapped positions today to test them out seems to be running good today
i did reset the adaptive table and i got this error.
===TCM DTC P160A:00-ED===
Code: P160A - Control Module Vehicle Options Reconfiguration Error
Status (-ED):
- DTC Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is On for this DTC
- Test not complete
Module: Transmission Control Module
===END TCM DTC P160A:00-ED===
===PCM DTC P0630:00-AF===
Code: P0630 - VIN Not Programmed or Incompatible - ECM/PCM
Status (-AF):
- DTC Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is On for this DTC
Module: Powertrain Control Module
===END PCM DTC P0630:00-AF===
===PCM DTC U0422:00-2F===
Code: U0422 - Invalid Data Received From Body Control Module
Status (-2F):
- DTC Present at Time of Request
- Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC
Module: Powertrain Control Module
===END PCM DTC U0422:00-2F===
Any solution for this?