Stephen Morris absolutely slayed the drums on this song. To keep that furious tempo going for 3 straight minutes and never missing a beat is friggin miraculous
I used to play guitar in a group of friends when I was younger. When we played this, I would look at the drummer and it looked like a bucket of sweat was dropped on him. Totally drenched. The 16th on the cymbals are real tough.
the four of them had an anti rock look, they looked like 4 standard office workers and the music is so deep, singular and unique. I find that so fascinating
I always dug their style. It's that preppy look, all but Hooky are clean shaven and all of them have short hair. Bernard Sumner stands out the most to me, looks the most preppy and has that simple haircut, parted to the side, and swept to one side.
@juice world - Just because it's unknown doesn't mean it's under rated. It means people are ignorant and broken. I went and checked it... (as an FYI I've been a music reviewer since the 80's) and it was actually not band. I can think of a few things their sound is reminiscent of but that's not a slight as being wholly unique gets harder all the time, and they do have their own distinct vibe. The only problem is you can't buy it... a "download" is air... I refuse to pay for air. I want physical medium I can own and hold. (Like gold or silver) If they ever put out an actual album, I'd probably buy it.
@colr naranjanga it was ok, was sort of generic early 2010s indie rock, wasn't bad at all just sort of typical I guess, but hey if you like it you like it
Many people still mistake Ian’s dancing as part of his epilepsy, while in fact it wasn’t. As his band mates explained, Ian was simply “lost in the music”.
That makes sense, since he's still able to sing and perform during his dancing. I admit it looks scary when you take into account what happened to him, but nonetheless, I think he's just performing here in the way he does.
@@usualdosage7287 whoops.. if the "rest of the comments" say that the man is having an epileptic seizure whilst vocalising live on on stage then it must be true.. silly me.
I think it might be somewhat connected to his epilepsy. If we can believe their accounts, some people who work in caring for disabled people have said that they've seen people with epilepsy dance just like Ian. It might be possible that something about epilepsy causes their brain to associate that movement with dancing. Of course that's all if we take those people's statements seriously and since this is the internet, I don't know how much we can do that.
Thank fuck people can see it. I identify with Ian so much. Love Will Tear Us Apart describes the shit I'm going through spookily acurately. And watching this video SHOWS you what you HEAR in LWTUA. Peace.
He's like a tornado inside a hurricane on industrial strength speed. Fucking boss. I love this vid. Every one of them is on fire & fuckin' killing it! Priceless vid. Playing drums like that would kill me after about 30 fuckin' seconds!
No joke, I've been working on playing this song. I had to stop after a week because I couldn't straighten my arms out without wincing. I've since slowed the tempo down and have been working my way up. This is seriously one of the biggest mental challenges I have ever tried musically.
I adore this performance. The way the instruments are layered with the prominent repetitive bass, the fast drumming, the phrases from the guitar responding to Ian as he sings, and of course Ian’s distinct dark voice. It goes from being a very controlled form of intensity to manic wild intensity so seamlessly and steadily. When Ian is screaming he looks like he’s about to collapse you can tell he’s giving all of himself to the music. I can’t gush about it enough, the whole thing is just genius and one of the greatest single performances ever.
Their sound was so unique at the time. Nobody played their instruments like that, and nobody sounded like Ian. We truly didn’t know what to make of it. It wasn’t punk or new wave. It was a kind of proto-industrial mélange of noise and agony, but kids danced to it in the hole-in-the-wall college clubs of the early-80’s. JD still inspires...
YES! That's what that is! Seriously, I've been trying to figure out what made this band so unique in sound for years and thats what it is. There is no 'forefront' or backing of a song, its all flowing equally.
Fully aware sir, I’m 58 and have hardly any memory of it now, but went regularly to the show , I was 15, same night as the jam, who were my faves at the time, only ended up here due to showing my 14 yr old granddaughter
@@johkymyou sir kick ass. I play unknown pleasures for my kids a lot(7 and 3). My 7 year old thinks every song sounds painful….. that’s a far reaching message. And my wife knows that’s disorder is the one song I request at my funeral.
My Grandad used to play this song in the car when I was a bairn, when I was young I hated this music but I must admit it is one of the best bands iv heard.
"Existence is.. well.. what does it matter? I exist on the best terms I can. The past is now part of my future. The present is well out of hand." ― Ian Curtis
Hard to believe this was recorded in 1979 there was nothing close to the sound of joy division in the 1970s A completely unique band with a unique sound that still 41 years later nothing sounds like them so unique
The way Stephen morris playing the exact same thing on the high hat that 16th note double time thing for the whole song and doesn’t go out of time or miss Rhythm is insane This dude invented trap
And the drums, and the vocals, and the guitar as well as the mixing, the cover, the lyrics. One the very few bands where everything you can think about is perfect
Michael Nonyabizniss Within a few short years all four of them turned from amateurs to such original, great musicians they became the third greatest group of the century.
+hardhatpicasso yeah just another comment about the drummer - I think he's really the one holding it all together and giving joy division their punch. He's the backbone. Such absolutely fine drumming
23 is no life. A very talented man, but unfortunately not a role model. Living fast and then committing suicide that young is just a tragedy. He mostly looked shy and unhappy when performing. It's an awful pity that he wasn't helped to live a longer happier life. I feel very sorry for him.
Hard to believe this amazing music is forty years old. Like a lot of the great punk and post-punk era stuff it doesn't sound old and gets tons of teenaged and even younger than teen fans as the years go by.
I assume you are from the USA. We never used the term "post punk" at the time . "New wave" followed punk in the UK eg Buzzcocks and Warsaw were punk. Magazine and Joy Division were "new wave" (of rock music)
The frenetic sounds of Joy Division are soothing and maddening at the same time. Like slipping slowly into insanity but being 100% at peace with it. I swear my chest is still pounding 5 min after hearing this on full volume.
Good description. That kinda sums up Ian, the band, their band name and the lyrics. Heavy, serious as death Name and lyrics, crazy pace yet excellent to listen to! Fits with the Jungian duality of man. Like Joy Divison, taken from the Nazi name for the Jewish woman that were picked out of the death camps to sexually service Germany's troops. SS had their own special German division of strictly Deutsche Frauen! I was in a band when I was younger and thought I could belt some tunes cause I could keep up with most rock, excluding David Lee Roth, Steven Tyler and some Fugaz; another German name which is tough, especially Fugazi's Waiting Room but Ian sings at a pace I never had the lungs to even talk most songs through! Trying to keep up with Love Will Tear Us Apart was impossible! A drummer friend of mine argued with me that they were using a drum machine that Neil Peart couldn't bang out those tunes that fast! He was surprised to find out their drummer was real! I still couldn't get him are many others to appreciate Joy Division! I think way to many ppl underestimated Ian and Joy Division! I enjoy them as much today almost as much as when I discovered them in the 80s! LONG LIVE JOY DIVISION!
Though I DO remember a very interesting anecdote in Hooky's autobiography about how someone once offered Stephen a tab of acid and he swallowed it instantly, not realizing it was actually SIX individual tabs in one... he was tripping balls for days!
But, yes, I've definitely heard the same thing about him being a very nervous person. "Shaky Stephen", they used to call him, according again to Hooky.
Amazing how each instrument, as well as Ian's vocals all have an evenness, a similar emphasis and nothing takes precedence or leaves others out no show boating no solo's just a solid force.
From my understanding, I think this is what defines post-punk. A sense of instrumental autonomy: every part serves the whole, and can serve its role - even if it seems super-repetitive - for as long as it needs to for the song. That's why you get these lock-step rhythms, brutal yet seething guitar parts, and a rising sense of panic that permeates much of what Joy Division did.
Johnny Deutschemark + Concise and excellent point, they constructed this amazing energy as you stated never overlapped- yet for me actually projected through Ian, such as performed here. It charged through him, perhaps it was pain or simply being overwhelmed by it's power. Peace
@@vivaldi1ett Well, you can't undo epilepsy, and Bernard Sumner believes it was that cocktail of drugs the doctors put Ian on that made him unable to cope with events in his life. Best you could do is thwart his marriage before it happened, or stop him from meeting Annik...or stop Joy Division from happening. :(
@@FireMinstrel I’m also in agreement that he was let down and overly drugged by his doctors who all let him down badly they were supposed to be the ones looking after him but obviously failed him badly I know we know more about mental health now but that’s no excuse when clearly he was struggling to cope Bless him
I apologize up front for what follows. I need to rant when people include a date in certain comments. I can't helph. Well I could but I don't. Triggered. Who's still listening to this or whatever "in insert year here". Please don't. It's a year. We're still listening. We don't need to be reminded that the song isn't new. We know it isn't. Stop the nonsense, please. All you had to say was "This is a masterpiece" and you probably get a thumbs up from me! It was a masterpiece in 2024, 2023, 2022......etc. and it still is in 2025. It was a masterpiece when it was released. Who cares what year it is? It's 2025, anyone still rocking out to Beethoven???????????????. Bad day. Sorry. But the date thing really annoys me. It crawls further up my arse than the scope with the camera that doctor inserted. Apologize for the reply! No disrespect intended, just a cranky old man and they were a great band and they will continue to be known for their great music, regardless of the year in which we live and can still enjoy them, at least I'd like to hope so. Cheers!.
The opening bass is still a hauntingly beautiful entity. The introduction of the drums sublime. Ian Curtis' vocals are mesmerising. The driving rhythm of the guitar takes this song to another level. They blend better than most of their era.
This is why I love British music. We had similar musical movements, but this work is singularly extraordinary. That’s why UK music of the time was so popular in America. The essence displayed here is so English in its wonderful weirdness.
You know why I love Joy Division? He put his whole crazy ass heart into that performance. It's really hard to find artists who are this passionate these days.
***** If anyone watched the film about him, then you'd realise that he had really bad epilepsy, so he was probably staving off a fit right there as he was dancing, as the crazy flailing dancing kept him conscious.
demonthief115 He did take drugs, during his work at the group home especially. The drugs weren't the reason for the dancing though, that's just his way of expressing himself.
James Wilkes Just a note…."fit" is not the way epileptics wish for their condition to be termed. The word is seizure. And, I'm doubting he was warding off any seizure in this case.
Ian was absolutely possessed by the music, the look in his eyes and his body movements. He was a 22 year old man with the soul of an ancient shaman. The only other singer to have that spirit was Jim Morrison. Keyboard player for the Doors Ray Manzarek saw Jim become an Indian shaman on stage during some performances.
Jim was mostly high as a kite when performing live, amazing he could still function.!!I believe he was a really sensitive soul and felt he required drugs to hide it. Very talented guy
You could argue that JD was the main bridge between 70’s punk and everything that came in the 80’s & 90’s like new wave, alternative, industrial, grunge…etc. Their footprint on music is incredible with such a limited catalog and such a short time together.
at the 2:00 mark he just disappears into the stratosphere - goodbye! mere mortals. I am music. I am rock and roll. I am everything you want to be where I am. In a flash of emotion - gone. Jaw dropping.
I saw only the first minutes and then stopped because I had something else to do, wished I could watch the whole movie, I hope to finish it in the near future.
+ernesto 67 I enjoyed Full Circle and Other Voices (to a lesser extent), as well as the instrumental jams on American Prayer, but yes I understand your point. But the original comment was specifically about the bass and drums. Those elements did not change.
Few comments on here about the drummer Stephen Morris. I just want to say that without Stephen in that moment in time Joy Division would never have happened, and as I've played drums for 20 years I know that what he did with them was perfect for the other members of the band and the sound as a whole. For me he wasn't a guy in the background making noise, he really complimented the songs and laid down iconic drum tracks. I wish I could have done that!! Born too late!!
Joy Division are a classic example of how a good drummer with less technically skilled guitarist and bassist can result in excellent music. in Peter Hooks's book about New Order (Substance) he relates how when they were arranging the music for the Control film; initially it was decided that there would be no drumming, and Hook replied that the drums were the most important part of the Joy Division sound, so of course there had to be drumming.
Imagine if Stephen Brotherdale never left when they were Warsaw, this band would be very different, Stephen Morris is so underrated! and he does fit everything together so well, what I love about Joy Division is that there's no member drowned out, everyone has a part and they all play their part phenomenally.
You defied me. Yet I keep replaying this from start to finish. I'm not kidding. Ian Curtis appeared unwell yet he managed to kick humanity in THE NUTS. While I'm glad humanity deserved it, I didn't since I'm even more tortured.
I love looking at these old clips. Stephan is just such on another level... and the fellas make it work... and Ian is just off the charts Damn Stephen can work it
I personally think this is Joy Division's best song. Nothing against love will tear us apart, but this song has everyone in the band giving it their all. Nobody is being carried, everyone is essential to this song in their own right.
I agree with you mate. Love will tear us apart is joy division's average song In my opinion. I prefer this song, shadowplay,isolation,they walked in line and my all time favourite, atrocity exhibition.
I don’t think Ian gets enough credit for how great of a singer, songwriter, and frontman he was. And Bernard Sumner is a good guitarist. Who else agrees?
I wish there were more footage of them to see. The movie "Control" did a pretty decent job depicting them live. I hear the same ppl who produced that movie are doing a Morrissey biopic movie called "Steven" or something like that. Should be pretty good if it's anything like Control.
nice thanks for the headsup ill keep an eye out for that. my friend cassie did the graphic design for control's promotion, we went to the premier in warwick arts centre it was good.
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Stephen Morris absolutely slayed the drums on this song. To keep that furious tempo going for 3 straight minutes and never missing a beat is friggin miraculous
His work on the cymbals is such a fantastic part of JD/NO. He really shines here and on "Ceremony" as well.
I drum mate and this is so difficult, like a frigging drum machine. Too fast for me!
I used to play guitar in a group of friends when I was younger. When we played this, I would look at the drummer and it looked like a bucket of sweat was dropped on him. Totally drenched. The 16th on the cymbals are real tough.
Inhuman pace!
this band just amazes me. it makes me wish i grew up during this era
Stephen Morris is an absolute machine.
It is very similar to Matt Tong.
Give him some water jeez
Its fun to watch other drummers try and cover this and fail.
@@luisgomez-mx1bc oh yeah. Now I realised
A human drum machine!
the four of them had an anti rock look, they looked like 4 standard office workers and the music is so deep, singular and unique. I find that so fascinating
I always dug their style. It's that preppy look, all but Hooky are clean shaven and all of them have short hair. Bernard Sumner stands out the most to me, looks the most preppy and has that simple haircut, parted to the side, and swept to one side.
I love it!
My dad says it just how punk rocks dressed back the before the spikes trends. Even Black Flag used to perform with button shirt like this.
@@bleachvisionTV your dad doesn't know everything
A lot of us dressed like that in the 80's sta press suits, thin ties, wedge haircuts.
What strikes me most about this song is how stark and minimalist it is, yet it packs a sonic punch that is enthralling and all consuming.
Well said😊
This comment encapsulates nearly everything I liked about them back in the day!
@@Gertrude79 f off to X if you want to troll girl.
simple is always best
Drums.
man there was no weak link in this band, all 4 of them influenced countless drummers, bassists, guitarists and singers forever.
@juice world - Just because it's unknown doesn't mean it's under rated. It means people are ignorant and broken.
I went and checked it... (as an FYI I've been a music reviewer since the 80's) and it was actually not band. I can think of a few things their sound is reminiscent of but that's not a slight as being wholly unique gets harder all the time, and they do have their own distinct vibe. The only problem is you can't buy it... a "download" is air... I refuse to pay for air. I want physical medium I can own and hold. (Like gold or silver) If they ever put out an actual album, I'd probably buy it.
@colr naranjanga it was ok, was sort of generic early 2010s indie rock, wasn't bad at all just sort of typical I guess, but hey if you like it you like it
@@56squadron you're talking to a bot
The band made it on its bass, drums, and IAN CURTIS.
Not sure about guitar tho
Proof that a great bass line doesn’t need to be complicated
well said lad, well said, exactly.
The only reason he was allowed to keep playing a regular bass in blue Monday was because of his skill and how it couldn’t be recreated on a machine.
Exactly 💯
Yup, but it's better with this powerful drummer
Peter Hook just has a cool name.
A dose of Joy Division a day, keeps the fake feelings away.
And fake friends away
Thank you, and double triple doses!
@Gringo lolo I think they mean they have an infatuation that they want to get rid of but they can't stop thinking of the person
Or you dont want any feelings
It's amazing how each instrument is front and center, yet they leave so much space for each other.
Beautifully put
They were a complete band. 4 very talented musicians
On point!
Great comment
Masterclass comment.
Many people still mistake Ian’s dancing as part of his epilepsy, while in fact it wasn’t. As his band mates explained, Ian was simply “lost in the music”.
Mr Death No one thinks his dancing is part of his epilepsy mate. Like, no one.
@@DrCheeks you clearly didn't look at the rest of the comments
That makes sense, since he's still able to sing and perform during his dancing. I admit it looks scary when you take into account what happened to him, but nonetheless, I think he's just performing here in the way he does.
@@usualdosage7287 whoops.. if the "rest of the comments" say that the man is having an epileptic seizure whilst vocalising live on on stage then it must be true.. silly me.
I think it might be somewhat connected to his epilepsy. If we can believe their accounts, some people who work in caring for disabled people have said that they've seen people with epilepsy dance just like Ian. It might be possible that something about epilepsy causes their brain to associate that movement with dancing. Of course that's all if we take those people's statements seriously and since this is the internet, I don't know how much we can do that.
I watched this when it was first broadcast and couldn't believe it. Everyone was talking about it the next day at school. We all formed bands.
You formed Mumford & Sons?
@@stanmonzon5788 🤣
Stan Monzon this one was funny 😂
@@stanmonzon5788 Piss funny🤣👍
@@billt1954 Godamnit
i've never seen a man with such sadness in his face, he sings with such conviction.
JRaw NY yes, and he also sings with an incredible powerfull, their music is Amazing.
Right?
yes it is very disturbing in a good way, you can really feel it.
Thank fuck people can see it. I identify with Ian so much. Love Will Tear Us Apart describes the shit I'm going through spookily acurately. And watching this video SHOWS you what you HEAR in LWTUA. Peace.
JRaw NY the severe epileptic attacks and depression excacerbated it and reflected in his writing (songs.)
Just four working class guys from Manchester. I love how Ian’s mural is still up in the Northern Quarter in Manchester
Agreed. You're a slightly annoying bunch of cunts, but you have produced some superb bands and music ❤
Salford and Macclesfield.
As far as I'm aware Ian Curtis was born in Mcr but moved to Macc
Stephen Morris on those drums though. That man has some real speed.
Satsuma amphetamine like
Satsuma Salanewt flies under the radar of musics good Drummers
He's like a tornado inside a hurricane on industrial strength speed. Fucking boss. I love this vid. Every one of them is on fire & fuckin' killing it! Priceless vid. Playing drums like that would kill me after about 30 fuckin' seconds!
NOT MY FUCKING TEMPO!
so cool and never miss's a beat
Joy Division didn't need a drum machine, they already had one.
Stephen Morris- the machine
Fuelled by
Coke
Very few complete bands where every person in the band is top notch. Zepellin and Doors immediately come to my mind.
You just summed up my feelings I’ve been ranting on about for years in a single terse sentence.
No joke, I've been working on playing this song. I had to stop after a week because I couldn't straighten my arms out without wincing. I've since slowed the tempo down and have been working my way up. This is seriously one of the biggest mental challenges I have ever tried musically.
@@vampirelogic yeah i tried learning this and just gave up in the end from pain lol
I adore this performance. The way the instruments are layered with the prominent repetitive bass, the fast drumming, the phrases from the guitar responding to Ian as he sings, and of course Ian’s distinct dark voice. It goes from being a very controlled form of intensity to manic wild intensity so seamlessly and steadily. When Ian is screaming he looks like he’s about to collapse you can tell he’s giving all of himself to the music. I can’t gush about it enough, the whole thing is just genius and one of the greatest single performances ever.
The best comment
Yep.
Rock is an odd form of expression.
Often the least complicated pieces are the most emotionally effective.
I love it...it's so 100%. Other rock stars can't do this...the sincerity..and the level of expressed sarcasm in the melancholy. Kills me. Pure genius.
@Hunter Vonnegut no
I think he was having an epileptic attack. He used to control and hide it to continue with the tours.
This is a religious experience. Its cuts through reality to the eternity beyond.
Yes it does.
Olimpia 2030.......artist coming
I thought that the word "religious" was a taboo for you, kids. 🤣🤣🤣
@alexstrasser1 Religious is to be in awe of something which is spiritual.
@paulrimmer391 Religion: its etymology = from Latin "religare" which means to re-link, to re-connect with GOD.
Their sound was so unique at the time. Nobody played their instruments like that, and nobody sounded like Ian. We truly didn’t know what to make of it. It wasn’t punk or new wave. It was a kind of proto-industrial mélange of noise and agony, but kids danced to it in the hole-in-the-wall college clubs of the early-80’s. JD still inspires...
And inspired dozens of other bands.
Ian singing technique is inspired by david bowie, with punk-styled music
Brian eno?
The Fall: Hold my beer
noise and agony- three words that some up joy division
Beautiful! When he goes off at 2:26, so incredible. R.I.P. Ian..
Ya Ian.....thx for the great tunes, memories, and learning about your struggles.
Each instrument was a lead.. one of the only bands to pull that off with so much atmosphere yet so simple too. Shit give me goosebumps 20 years later.
YES! That's what that is! Seriously, I've been trying to figure out what made this band so unique in sound for years and thats what it is. There is no 'forefront' or backing of a song, its all flowing equally.
The Who.
The Stranglers
Cream
Tool
The first 30 seconds of this song literally gives me goosebumps. Every time.
its the "DAAAAAAAANCE" scream that always gets me goosebumps, around 2:30. I'm 21, and i will never thank enough my father for sharing me this.
How fast can you play the drums?
Stephen Morris : Yes.
Try listening to deathcore or black metal. That's fast and not this.
@@depousinho bro shut up
@@Hillman-vi9hk and you are who?
@@depousinho someone telling you to shut up
duh
@@Hillman-vi9hk it's not my problem if people thinks that is fast and it isn't ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That crowd has No Idea they are witnessing history.
I hope they danced to the radio
@@Brain_Juice Well put my friend, well put. I think the only cure for c**ts and Wa**kers is kindness. I hope you have that in your life.
I think some of them knew
Fully aware sir, I’m 58 and have hardly any memory of it now, but went regularly to the show , I was 15, same night as the jam, who were my faves at the time, only ended up here due to showing my 14 yr old granddaughter
@@johkymyou sir kick ass.
I play unknown pleasures for my kids a lot(7 and 3). My 7 year old thinks every song sounds painful….. that’s a far reaching message.
And my wife knows that’s disorder is the one song I request at my funeral.
Stephen Morris is a human drum machine. Insanely great drummer!
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🔁
He is great.
Was he replaced by a machine in New Order?
Wrong! he is not a human he is a robot.
Him and Jimmy Chamberlain are my favourite drummers
The greatest bass line in music
Who's here to remember Ian Curtis. 40 years later. As relevant as ever.
Absolutley-here❕Im still with,special melodies and texts!
They bought me,long a go! 🍻❗️😎
Overrated
this performance gives me chills every time
Amazing song
Yes ....i love Joy Division....Love you Ian!!!!!!!
I swear this song will never get old
Think you will already find it is rather so
Its the 'postpunk' anthem of all time for me.
This particulary version is superbe. I always park here when I want to hear this song.
My Grandad used to play this song in the car when I was a bairn, when I was young I hated this music but I must admit it is one of the best bands iv heard.
Essa não é a primeira vez que estou aqui, e não será a última
it's like you can see the pain in his eyes.
rest in peace, Ian Curtis.
Lily Anna drugs
Lily Anna
Arya Sarke drugs are the symptom only
you absolutely can. it's dreadfully sad
What a legend!
Stephen Morris absolute machine !!!
"Existence is.. well.. what does it matter? I exist on the best terms I can. The past is now part of my future. The present is well out of hand."
― Ian Curtis
HEART AND SOUL
❤
Man I love those lyrics so haunting
One will burn~
his greatest lyrics for me👌
Joy Division continues to be futuristic, no mater the decade.
A-fucking-men.
Timeless
Always vanguard! Their minds were beyond!
In deed!
Exactly.
Hard to believe this was recorded in 1979 there was nothing close to the sound of joy division in the 1970s
A completely unique band with a unique sound that still 41 years later nothing sounds like them so unique
Well... There were a few early 2000s bands that completely took their sound. Looking at you Interpol
true this was way better,only the clash or pil ltd were close
@@lukejones6293 interpol made their own sound but joy division was definitely a huge influence
I know!
Section 25 were as ground breaking at that time, but Tony put his efforts into promoting JD, because of Ian's stage presence
Stephen's fills during the chorus (Dance, dance to the radio) are spectacular in their precision and timing. What a drummer!
I know right thats what I noticed
🥁🤖
Man dressed as Geography teacher becomes musical ICON.
why is that so accurate
Totally.
if u dont get it - u wont get it - nobody
Which one? They all look like history teachers...because they were
I liked Geography at school, dreaming about all these places I could never afford to visit.
The raw energy in this performance will never cease to electrify me so much. Forever one of my favourite bands
Ian had the best dance moves.
KAZUYA MISHIMA
@@suzymanville232he was epileptic is way he moved like that
It didn’t transmit to the crowd, how could you stay still watching this….
The 41st anniversary since we lost Ian Curtis and we still listen to his music
Rest In Peace Man
😔💞💐🙏 So glad I was alive in that time too know their music
The best!
And Chris Cornell in 2017 -same day as Ian. 😔
And 42 went by now, 2022.
And he was so young… only 23. I wish he could’ve lived longer than that
The way Stephen morris playing the exact same thing on the high hat that 16th note double time thing for the whole song and doesn’t go out of time or miss Rhythm is insane This dude invented trap
That is not a drummer , that 's a human machine made drummer , amazing !
i love the energy in the crowd!!!
MataHaji i love that i can not tell if your being sarcastic or not - can you imagine how fast tickets would sell out today?
+MataHaji It's just The Jam who were performing on there the same night.
Actually they were been respectful. imagine they were shouting...we would misss the chanche to apreciate this.
+MataHaji 1:35
+Little Miss Pimple-popper i was being sarcastic
I’m a guitarist, but every time I listen to Joy Division, I just want to play all the bass
Joy Division bass is the best
And the drums, and the vocals, and the guitar as well as the mixing, the cover, the lyrics. One the very few bands where everything you can think about is perfect
word
I’m sure that’s also how Barney felt.
I recently made the jump. No regrets
Morris is amazing. The drumming is on point, a beat not missed.
2020... Ian's music will never die.
It's more relevant than ever
☝🏼
@@nicole71047 I mean out it on quaretein isolation and tell me I'm wrong...
It's not Iain's music, it's Joy Division's music
Cant even imagine how much pain the drummer is probably in, working his arse off the whole tune
***** Correct Sir. He is doing sustained 16th note Hard Graft on the Hi-Hat. My forearms are burning just looking at him. TOP BOY.
***** He's incredible
***** All hail Stephen Morris! (Ranked #5 on the 50 greatest rock drummers of all time by Stylus Magazine.)
Michael Nonyabizniss wow that is great
joy division rules
Michael Nonyabizniss Within a few short years all four of them turned from amateurs to such original, great musicians they became the third greatest group of the century.
Only Ian Curtis can sing: "Dance, dance, dance, dance, dance to the radio" in a way that sounds like the coming of the apocalypse!
Like it's the only thing you can do just before the nuclear bombs hit.
@@fallinginthed33p Exactly!
So well said! ☮️
@@reemclaughlin4260 Thanks.
#........♥️
Legends!!! Music does not exist like this anymore unfortunately
that drummer is just incredible! love him
+hardhatpicasso yeah just another comment about the drummer - I think he's really the one holding it all together and giving joy division their punch. He's the backbone. Such absolutely fine drumming
+hardhatpicasso If you can, imagine that exact same drumbeat on She's Lost Control, and think of how different that song would be.
+hardhatpicasso i'd say the bassist too (Peter Hook)
STEPHEN MORRIS
hardhatpicasso your right Ian and all brilliant but the drummer wow
RIP Ian Curtis (July 15, 1956 - May 18, 1980), aged 23
You will be remembered as a legend.
23 is no life. A very talented man, but unfortunately not a role model. Living fast and then committing suicide that young is just a tragedy. He mostly looked shy and unhappy when performing. It's an awful pity that he wasn't helped to live a longer happier life. I feel very sorry for him.
@@howardgraff4084🫣
@@howardgraff4084 Ian Curtis suffered from epileptic seizures.
@@mattsnow546 what has that got to do with it? He didn't have seizures whilst on stage.
@howardgraff4084 there was plenty of times he had seizures on stage I don't know where you're getting your f****** information from
Hard to believe this amazing music is forty years old. Like a lot of the great punk and post-punk era stuff it doesn't sound old and gets tons of teenaged and even younger than teen fans as the years go by.
It certainly has aged better than most it trancends time
New wave is one of my favorite genres but even I thought it was dead
I assume you are from the USA. We never used the term "post punk" at the time . "New wave" followed punk in the UK eg Buzzcocks and Warsaw were punk. Magazine and Joy Division were "new wave" (of rock music)
Absolutely Yesss!!
Their music is unbelievably modern
As if It was created in these recent years
I really believed Joy Division was a band from early 2000 until I looked to Wikipedia, this guys saw the future.
You can literally see the despair in his eyes.
oooh literally init literally
One of my favorite songs from Ian. Ian makes you feel like you are seeing and hearing through his own soul. This is what made him one of a kind.
drumming is sensational
what a bad drumming taste you have
Jaime sorlí
You are stupid
that drummer.
Probably one off the best drumming performances in rock history
Stephen Morris, the human drum machine!
you missed few steps ....
Sorry, but no
Danny carey- pneuma *micdrop*
Hahaha. Don't embarrass the poor guy. He goes alright, but seriously?
The drummer is a machine
2:04 props that one guy bouncing in the crowd while everyone else is * almost * completely stiff
He danced to the radio
Life's a joke its the way I tell em that counts don't choke
empathizing with the singer
a mod waiting for The Jam to come on the show...
To be fair, you’d likely be frozen witnessing something so intense
The frenetic sounds of Joy Division are soothing and maddening at the same time. Like slipping slowly into insanity but being 100% at peace with it. I swear my chest is still pounding 5 min after hearing this on full volume.
I like your description.
Healing and insight via total immersion into the darkness. JD in a nutshelll for me since 1987 when I found their music.
Why’s it maddening? Angry much?
@@Bambino_3 I don't think you understood the comment. Has nothing to do with me personally and everything to do with the sound of the song.
Good description. That kinda sums up Ian, the band, their band name and the lyrics. Heavy, serious as death Name and lyrics, crazy pace yet excellent to listen to! Fits with the Jungian duality of man. Like Joy Divison, taken from the Nazi name for the Jewish woman that were picked out of the death camps to sexually service Germany's troops. SS had their own special German division of strictly Deutsche Frauen! I was in a band when I was younger and thought I could belt some tunes cause I could keep up with most rock, excluding David Lee Roth, Steven Tyler and some Fugaz; another German name which is tough, especially Fugazi's Waiting Room but Ian sings at a pace I never had the lungs to even talk most songs through! Trying to keep up with Love Will Tear Us Apart was impossible! A drummer friend of mine argued with me that they were using a drum machine that Neil Peart couldn't bang out those tunes that fast! He was surprised to find out their drummer was real! I still couldn't get him are many others to appreciate Joy Division! I think way to many ppl underestimated Ian and Joy Division! I enjoy them as much today almost as much as when I discovered them in the 80s! LONG LIVE JOY DIVISION!
Ian Curtis: We will need a drum machine for this song.
Stephen Morris: Hold my beer.
So true
Yasss!
no he probably said, “hold me ale innit”
@@Ian-qs3fz hahahaha no chance
Masterpiece
The drummer. The bassist. Bernie, Ian. This, my friends, IS PERFECTION.
badass brotha never heard of them thank u guys!
Put some respect on the name peter hook!
Bass played huge part in post punk/goth rock.
Peter hook is one of the best
Mad respect to all 🙌👏 all geniuses
That drummer is working hard,christ must take some energy to keep that pace up.
Give a thunderous round of applause to our good friend cocaine
Though I DO remember a very interesting anecdote in Hooky's autobiography about how someone once offered Stephen a tab of acid and he swallowed it instantly, not realizing it was actually SIX individual tabs in one... he was tripping balls for days!
But, yes, I've definitely heard the same thing about him being a very nervous person. "Shaky Stephen", they used to call him, according again to Hooky.
He's a fantastic drummer. His timing is incredible, almost drum-machine like. Utterly perfect for the Joy Division sound.
Jimmy Chamberlin is similar
Ian Curtis isn't trying to dance. Dance is trying to Ian Curtis.
fucking brilliant Mark.
He looks so dead inside...
🙏🔁™
Fuck me, that is the best comment ever on UA-cam. In fact no that's the best comment ever anywhere.
Ian killed it on stage
Freaking love this song
Ian Curtis. The man with the saddest eyes.
Probably the saddest man in mainstream rock
Yeah and then bad medicine for his epilepsy.
El muchacho de los ojos tristes :v
@@fbismaelsoriamaya60 His Wife!
The original SADBOI ☹️
Amazing how each instrument, as well as Ian's vocals all have an evenness, a similar emphasis and nothing takes precedence or leaves others out no show boating no solo's just a solid force.
From my understanding, I think this is what defines post-punk. A sense of instrumental autonomy: every part serves the whole, and can serve its role - even if it seems super-repetitive - for as long as it needs to for the song. That's why you get these lock-step rhythms, brutal yet seething guitar parts, and a rising sense of panic that permeates much of what Joy Division did.
Johnny Deutschemark like epilepsy
That's what the studio did to it. It didn't sound like that live.
What do you think about that recent New Order tour where they finally decided to perform Joy Division songs again?
Johnny Deutschemark +
Concise and excellent point, they constructed this amazing energy as you stated never overlapped- yet for me actually projected through Ian, such as performed here. It charged through him, perhaps it was pain or simply being overwhelmed by it's power.
Peace
Ian Curtis will never age. He'll always be a beautifully innocent 23 year old.
That’s a lovely attribute to the handsome young Ian
@@vivaldi1ett A light that burned bright. Sad.
@@neilsarath9812 I know I wish I had a time machine to go back and save him God Bless him! ✝️💞😘🎚🎸🇬🇧🤪💕🤘🎸✝️💞🙏🏻💟
@@vivaldi1ett Well, you can't undo epilepsy, and Bernard Sumner believes it was that cocktail of drugs the doctors put Ian on that made him unable to cope with events in his life. Best you could do is thwart his marriage before it happened, or stop him from meeting Annik...or stop Joy Division from happening. :(
@@FireMinstrel I’m also in agreement that he was let down and overly drugged by his doctors who all let him down badly they were supposed to be the ones looking after him but obviously failed him badly I know we know more about mental health now but that’s no excuse when clearly he was struggling to cope Bless him
It's 2025. Who's still jammin' to this masterpiece?
I apologize up front for what follows. I need to rant when people include a date in certain comments. I can't helph. Well I could but I don't. Triggered. Who's still listening to this or whatever "in insert year here". Please don't. It's a year. We're still listening. We don't need to be reminded that the song isn't new. We know it isn't. Stop the nonsense, please. All you had to say was "This is a masterpiece" and you probably get a thumbs up from me! It was a masterpiece in 2024, 2023, 2022......etc. and it still is in 2025. It was a masterpiece when it was released. Who cares what year it is? It's 2025, anyone still rocking out to Beethoven???????????????. Bad day. Sorry. But the date thing really annoys me. It crawls further up my arse than the scope with the camera that doctor inserted. Apologize for the reply! No disrespect intended, just a cranky old man and they were a great band and they will continue to be known for their great music, regardless of the year in which we live and can still enjoy them, at least I'd like to hope so. Cheers!.
i almost forgot to watch this today
👍
The Queen Is Dead...what an album x
Oh happy birthday.
Close one. Glad that you are Ok mate.
The opening bass is still a hauntingly beautiful entity. The introduction of the drums sublime. Ian Curtis' vocals are mesmerising. The driving rhythm of the guitar takes this song to another level. They blend better than most of their era.
we need more music like this.
This is why I love British music. We had similar musical movements, but this work is singularly extraordinary. That’s why UK music of the time was so popular in America. The essence displayed here is so English in its wonderful weirdness.
Who knew that being weird was such a factor of genius?
Eccentric
@@James-dx8qb me
@@James-dx8qb Everyone but you , being bog standard means staying bog standard and never leaving anything of any note behind
Just say: The Clash hehe
You can see the sadness and hurt in his eyes. Great song, great band.
11 out of 10.
You know why I love Joy Division? He put his whole crazy ass heart into that performance. It's really hard to find artists who are this passionate these days.
demonthief115 Music is that powerful all by itself. If you need drugs to feel lost in beautiful music, I think that's a sign of deep depression.
*****
If anyone watched the film about him, then you'd realise that he had really bad epilepsy, so he was probably staving off a fit right there as he was dancing, as the crazy flailing dancing kept him conscious.
demonthief115
He did take drugs, during his work at the group home especially. The drugs weren't the reason for the dancing though, that's just his way of expressing himself.
James Wilkes Just a note…."fit" is not the way epileptics wish for their condition to be termed. The word is seizure. And, I'm doubting he was warding off any seizure in this case.
Chris Richards Are you on drugs, or were you on drugs when you wrote those comments? You were making no sense whatsoever.
Ian was absolutely possessed by the music, the look in his eyes and his body movements. He was a 22 year old man with the soul of an ancient shaman. The only other singer to have that spirit was Jim Morrison. Keyboard player for the Doors Ray Manzarek saw Jim become an Indian shaman on stage during some performances.
Jim was mostly high as a kite when performing live, amazing he could still function.!!I believe he was a really sensitive soul and felt he required drugs to hide it. Very talented guy
@@enlightenedone7141well, you know shamans were no strangers to psychedelics.
He also had epilepsy
@@enlightenedone7141He also suffered from severe epilepsy. That affected every aspect of his life on and off stage.
the keyboard player must have been on some good acid
In an alternate reality, they sang this at live aid, to a global audience that appreciated their undeniable individuality, and made Ian happy.
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Wow. Thank you I see it .
what a beautiful thought.
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@@piscesempress1978 what a stupid thought
One of their best. Great to dance to. RIP Curtis, 43 years 2023.❤️
You could argue that JD was the main bridge between 70’s punk and everything that came in the 80’s & 90’s like new wave, alternative, industrial, grunge…etc. Their footprint on music is incredible with such a limited catalog and such a short time together.
interesting how people say footprint rather than handprint. i understand also one's ear leaves an ear print if one presses it against a surface
@@gregdahlen4375 Ha ha! OK dude, smiling here in Shanghai this Sunday evening with my fingerprints all over this comment.
not a song but a therapy
this performance always gives me shivers
Hello look up this song is good like this one / faceless humming by The Impures
Drumming is the most impressive part of this song . Class and timing unreal
What a voice!! Great bass line!! Exciting guitar!! perfect drums!! Fantastic song!!
In two words... Joy Division
I have never seen so much pain in a mans eyes.
He was such an icon👐
You never saw me at work.
Well, he is probably knackered after all that drumming.....
It's haunting isn't it?
angel serna I think it’s insensitive to call his pain iconic. This is sad to see, it shouldn’t be celebrated.
That drumming is insane
Just another great song. Why music is important to the soul !
at the 2:00 mark he just disappears into the stratosphere - goodbye! mere mortals. I am music. I am rock and roll. I am everything you want to be where I am. In a flash of emotion - gone. Jaw dropping.
Everybody here needs to check out the movie "Control" about Ian and the band. It came out in 2007, details a lot of the pressures on Ian. RIP Ian.
Got the DVD in a charity shop . Excellent movie but so very sad !
I saw only the first minutes and then stopped because I had something else to do, wished I could watch the whole movie, I hope to finish it in the near future.
Watched it a while ago, can't say it's 100% brilliant, but it's made very well indeed. Almost 100%, I'd say.
Brilliant Movie never cried so much during a movie
The movie was so good I wasn't really a joy Division fan until I watched control 😎
lovin the bassist and drummer of this band
I already have, I like some of their songs, but they're too pop and new wave for my taste, but I like some of the bassist riffs
+ernesto 67 I enjoyed Full Circle and Other Voices (to a lesser extent), as well as the instrumental jams on American Prayer, but yes I understand your point. But the original comment was specifically about the bass and drums. Those elements did not change.
+Craig Keidel Nex order is not joy division !!!!
no wai
Hooky's the reason I picked up a bass like
I'm 65 and have always been a huge fan from when I first heard them. Ian gone at 24 was such a huge loss.
Few comments on here about the drummer Stephen Morris. I just want to say that without Stephen in that moment in time Joy Division would never have happened, and as I've played drums for 20 years I know that what he did with them was perfect for the other members of the band and the sound as a whole. For me he wasn't a guy in the background making noise, he really complimented the songs and laid down iconic drum tracks. I wish I could have done that!! Born too late!!
Joy Division are a classic example of how a good drummer with less technically skilled guitarist and bassist can result in excellent music. in Peter Hooks's book about New Order (Substance) he relates how when they were arranging the music for the Control film; initially it was decided that there would be no drumming, and Hook replied that the drums were the most important part of the Joy Division sound, so of course there had to be drumming.
Imagine if Stephen Brotherdale never left when they were Warsaw, this band would be very different, Stephen Morris is so underrated!
and he does fit everything together so well, what I love about Joy Division is that there's no member drowned out, everyone has a part and they all play their part phenomenally.
I love love love the intro to Atmosphere. Stephen gave the drums an actual voice.
Beat Therapy he was amazing my husbands calls him the human drum machine so true so fast.
not born too late, worshiping the past to much...
Ian was so eccentric and beautiful but look at his eyes here. You can tell he was in pain and in misery...RIP
An utterly hypnotic performance.
I defy anyone to watch this from start to finish and not to keep repeating it over and over...
Hi I recommend A New 80's style indie rock Song Called 'Looking into the Mirror' By Robert Nix
You defied me. Yet I keep replaying this from start to finish. I'm not kidding. Ian Curtis appeared unwell yet he managed to kick humanity in THE NUTS. While I'm glad humanity deserved it, I didn't since I'm even more tortured.
I repeated the chorus in ma heed for two days solid!
You’re not wrong, now I’m worried that this brilliant dark song and it’s infectious chorus will ruin my weekend 😂
I love looking at these old clips. Stephan is just such on another level... and the fellas make it work... and Ian is just off the charts Damn Stephen can work it
I personally think this is Joy Division's best song.
Nothing against love will tear us apart, but this song has everyone in the band giving it their all. Nobody is being carried, everyone is essential to this song in their own right.
I agree with you mate. Love will tear us apart is joy division's average song In my opinion. I prefer this song, shadowplay,isolation,they walked in line and my all time favourite, atrocity exhibition.
@@IncredulousMisanthrope thanks mate!!!
@Lee Davenport thanks Mate!
@@eddixon2015 you're welcome fam!
I used to think that until i heard disorder, she's lost control and digital
Now i cant decide
Whenever i see this man i get tears in my eyes.
why
It was a panic attack in pure essence Ian's performance. There's some psychological unsolved issues and mystery here. Rip Ian Curtis.
@@drmontano9414 well maybe because he was a such a sad person and he killed himself?
I don’t think Ian gets enough credit for how great of a singer, songwriter, and frontman he was. And Bernard Sumner is a good guitarist. Who else agrees?
Yes!
not me. you must be fuckin deaf. it sounds like a 10 year old wrote the lyrics and the dude cant sing. its crap
Be well be happy seek joy...
Pure, raw emotions. It goes so deep. Beautiful. I am so attached to Joy Division.
Attachement is a great word for that feeling. I dont need to be in a certain mood to listen to Joy Division, they will get me there no matter what.
Same.
@@anotherabyssmusic True DAT.
What a shining light of inspiration for so many musicians and lyricists back then. RIP.
What an amazing drummer Steven is, great song too !!, RIP Ian.
+Keiran Bradley He's not credited enough for being one of the best drummers of all time.
SeanOMatic For sure.
Geniuses.
One of THE best performances of ALL TIME!
I wish there were more footage of them to see. The movie "Control" did a pretty decent job depicting them live. I hear the same ppl who produced that movie are doing a Morrissey biopic movie called "Steven" or something like that. Should be pretty good if it's anything like Control.
when will the moz on be out
Mor ♡
nice thanks for the headsup ill keep an eye out for that. my friend cassie did the graphic design for control's promotion, we went to the premier in warwick arts centre it was good.
Will Thacker they've changed the name to England is mine , the trailer looks decent.
Well a morissey movie was released and it is not good
Will always be my favorite live performance of any band.
Ian absolutely nails it. Just incredible.