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INTJ Stereotypes?! with Dave Powers
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- Опубліковано 8 січ 2019
- Hey friends! I'm super honored to have Dave Powers as a guest on my channel for this video. Most of you will probably recognize him from the Dave Super Powers YT channel. Dave and his partner Shannon are the creators of the Objective Personality system which takes the original 8 functions of Carl Jung and have progressed them into a model that encompasses 512 different personality types. You can learn more about their system, methods, and class by visiting www.objectivepersonality.com
I've been in their class for about 8 months now and it's been truly a rewarding journey of learning and personal growth.
As always if you want to hang during the week you can find me on instagram: wonderbubblez
I'm a part of an amazing blog and write on many subjects including typology at: www.ithinkifeel.com/
Till next time! Leave a comment with type related or self growth topics you would like videos on!
Two INTJs like:
"Wow that's a well thought out question."
"I know, hehe."
Great interview, Lindsay! I thought it was fun with you going through the memes with Dave.
Thanks Frank! It was super fun, and it was super enjoyable to experience it all over again while editing, I laughed just as much.
Do a video together talking about anything INTJ and INFJ related! You are both my favorite MBTI youtubers and I would love to see a collab💗
@@chiathepooh me2
Took about ten seconds for them to tie up this interview. That has to be the fastest conclusion to a social interaction I've ever seen.
LMAO!
For two INTJs, I think they really dragged it out. It could have been a good five seconds shorter.
@@bridgebum826 10 seconds shorter, imo. Got super awkward those last 5 seconds. Way too long. 😇
Lijo has game she don't sit long
"INTJs are misunderstood." After a good number of years away from the personality / typology community. That made me feel understood.
Amazing too how much that sounds basically like Jung's Ni dom description
INTJ, cant watch movies with fam or read books, prefer youtube vids on 2x, hooked on y'alls btw
Thanks James, glad you’re here to hang. I feel you on the YT videos 2x speed haha
Why can't you watch movies with family?
So accurate! haha
@@t5396 I get bored after about 20min (exaggerating a little)...
@@jwreturn so, you just don't like movies or you just don't like watching them with family?
0:39 What is Objective Personality System
2:09 Self typing
4:43 Objectivity in World outside of OPS and typology
7:22 Typing other people
13:30 16 Archetypes
19:40 , 24:01 , 25:56, 37:05, 41:13 , 47:28 INTJ
22:00 Spelling wrong
26:48 Jumpers
30:51 Deciders and Observers
34:37 Narcissism
42:53 Consume
50:26 Consume Sleep
49:12 Blast last
44:02 Consume last
47:28 INTJ stereotypes
49:12 Empathy
Thank you!
@@user-vf1yo8sh6f you’re welcome
Thank you!
Always great to see an interview with Dave. Love the ExxJ/IxxP vs. IxxJ/ExxP struggle comparisons. That's really personality boiled down to the basic level.
Awesome, so glad you found it helpful! Your videos have been great too, love that our community is growing.
oh.....looking at Dave's background......I need chocolate now......
For a long, long time I didn’t understand Play, that one was the hardest animal for me to learn, until Dave said this at 42:26
Consume = Gathering in new information for the self.
Play = Gathering in new information with the tribe.
Me: 💡🙀 OH I GET IT NOW!
That also helps me understand the other two.
Sleep = Organizing known information for the self.
Blast = Organizing known information with the tribe.
This was really helpful, thank you for posting this!
So glad you found it useful!
Wow!
I've been struggling to pin-point the animals aswell.. Your comment cleared things up for me, THNX😃 Great video as always💫
Loved it! Enjoyable content for INTJs and MBTI enthusiasts.
Thanks so much Oscar!
When it comes to being a 'grammar nazi', I can't help but see mistakes in things that I read. They just jump out at me. I do not, however, feel compelled to point the mistakes out to the author unless the author has asked me to edit the work. If you ask me to edit something, be prepared to see you work picked apart, especially if you pay me for the service. A friend of mine, who is a published author, convinced me to start an editing side business a few years ago after he asked me to read a novel he was working on and I sent it back a month later just riddled with corrections and notes of advice about what he could consider changing to make the book even better.
However, if I am just reading the comments that people have made on social media, I notice the mistakes, but I do not comment back with corrections. I've even reported a few people to group admins for being abusive about correcting people in cruel ways. I never report people to the social media company itself though because I hate it when people get booted out of sites rather than given the opportunity to learn from their mistakes and modify their behavior on the site a bit.
Same here as ISTP. I always will notice spelling errors, sometimes laugh to myself, but never feel a need to correct it unless it’s important to the situation
The way I read the Cyanide and Happiness comic is that the 'INTJ' missed the feeling function and responded rationally illustrating logic over emotion.
Ok after watching this at length, I definitely think I am more an Ni/Fi jumper INTJ ; tho it is slight...
but the way Dave described the differences resonated SO much to the differences in INTJ's I have noticed.
It's interesting because I feel those changes in what we value cognition wise can come about,
largely due to environmental factors. Like business owner/entrepreneurial INTJ's tend to be much more
developed in a way, and have more refined external filters. Especially if we are female.
But I will say I definitely value my own opinions & insights over tribe, tho I will at times go to the
tribe or external factors to gauge accuracy & objectivity.... largely tho, I do center my focus on what I want,
and when I want it.
hmmm..... good video to watch. :) Also cool to learn Dave lives in Portland to!! I'm gonna sign up for
the OP classes this month.
My very low Se is the bane of my existence. The dishes are piled so high in my kitchen right now and I do not even want to go in there. Sigh..... I'm working on that discipline though. But it's SO HARD.
I don't think that's low Se. I think it's extremely low Si.
@@maxbooth179 The avoidance of the kitchen may also be low Si. Good point! But as an INTJ, I do have repressive Se which is defined as either avoidant or indulgent.
@@maxbooth179 that's because INTJs have demon Si... Se is just inferior, intjs can Se pretty well when they want to, are forced to... please read the 8 functions theory.... intj have 1Ni 2Te 3Fi 4Se 5Ne 6Ti 7Fe 8Si 1-4 is the ego 5-8 is the shadow, the shadow manifests mostly in a negative way.... 5 - nemessis 6 - critic 7 - trickster 8 - demon....
@@soniac2156 not sure why you think I haven't read that theory, or why you think you're disagreeing with me. 🤔. Btw those names "demon" etc are cringe and if you've not then read psych types by jung then do x
Why is your dishwashing system not a habit for you? You look like the leader of your house... you shiuld have a proper habituation friendly system by now ...
30 seconds in, and I suddenly ask myself, "do INTJ's ever say 'awesome' though?"
Woohoo 🎉 loving the traction that’s coming onto UA-cam from the OP community!
Me too!! They have an amazing thing going. I’m so happy to be a part of it.
Hahaha a consumer is enjoying you guys’ video right now. Great vid Lindsay! Finally I know what type is Dave, had a hard time typing him.
Hahah yeah! That Ni/Fi jumper. So interesting, yet still so similar.
MBTI veterans just plows through everything and here i am just learning their basic structure functions connecting the dots yet loosing them after a few months or even days having learnt but this video kinda got me to connect the bigger picture for me although i do feel like i have received the holy message but yet like catching nothing maybe ill jot down when i get home
loved to hear more of this type like conversations
Consuming...the whole personality type thing is sitting on the fence for me, I know I'd like to know more, but at the moment I've got other stuff to 'eat' before I have any decent time to look at anything else.
Generally, as a 'consumer', I go as far as I need until I decide I have enough information and then I rarely go back to find out other stuff, unless I hit a question my logic can't answer based on the facts I already know.
For work, I tend to purposely keep an eye on emerging trends to keep myself in the loop and allow me to keep looking forward, though outside of such areas of life I really am not interested :) I can't be bothered with the media for the most part, and I completely get the bit towards the end of the video about having to force yourself to engage with some conversations instead of just zoning out because it's something you've either worked out the resolution to yourself within two sentences, or because as mentioned, it brings no value to 'me' :)
Certainly from a hobbies and interests perspective, I do a lot of reading (mostly non-fiction), can't get into gaming though I wish I could, I am almost jealous of those who can as it looks fun, however my work involves mostly work on computers, with the occasional client meeting where I get to talk to actual people! Hobbies revolve around martial arts, teaching for the most part...never took to any team sports, and have always been driven by me and nobody else (though from a 'romantic' relationship perspective, I am generally the pleaser, the one wanting to do things for the other though in my own INTJ way of thinking I know what they need ;) ).
Curiously it was martial arts that first got me into MBTI, mainly as my instructor years ago was keen to find out about his students to help them learn better and also get an insight into their learning styles which are strongly linked to the type. He was alledegdly by his own typing an ENTJ, he was and certainly still is extroverted...
Great interview, there's so much more to this than I'm aware of, but too much to eat for now!
really good conversation :) love the intj analysis :)
Awesome! So glad you stopped by!!
As I've been watching their videos, I hear Dave and Shan talk about using science and while I love the idea, I've been dubious. I was trained as a scientist, with a B.S. and Masters degrees in biological sciences (I since switched to web design and development and business) and I know it takes years and a good bit of mentorship from other scientists to really understand how science works. Most people have no idea that science is actually all about following a very specific process called "The Scientific Method". You have to learn all the ins and outs of that method. You have to learn all about biases and how to ensure you mitigate those as well as possible using double-blind studies. You have to learn all about peer review. You have to learn statistics. I took FIVE stats classes plus they each had a lab in addition to the lecture so it was 10 actual classes.
These are all just to get started, then it takes years of experience doing research and collecting, analyzing and interpreting data to really get the hang of it. It's super fun though. As an analogy, for those in the web/dev world, it is similar to people who know HTML thinking they know how to program. True programming as in C++, Javascript, etc. where you must know how to use data structures and flow control like the back of your hand, is far more advanced than just know how to use HTML to mark up some content. But, of course it is totally doable if someone has the intention to do so. I applaud Dave and Shan for reaching for this goal because it IS needed and I know they can do it. But I have no doubt they underestimated it. Most people do. But they'll get there.
I urge them to find a good scientist to work with them. I would LOVE to do it but I am already swamped with my own passion projects on top of full time job but I think that will really help them learn more quickly and get that knowledge and experience under their belt and grow their confidence and expertise. Also, it is fortunate because INTJs make the best scientists (some say the INTPs but I think the INTJs do) and ENTJs make good scientists too so Dave and Shan are wired for this, especially Dave. As long as they tap into their inner Ti on a regular basis so as not to skip over the details. You can't let that happen. That's another reason why peer review is so crucial to good science, because other scientists will call you out on your mistakes. And having other science colleagues is critical to rounding out the team so you address all aspects of good research. As a fun fact: Einstein was an INTP and Isaac Newton and Nikola Tesla were INTJs.
I’m with you on almost all of this comment, except that INTJs make the best scientists. Wouldn’t it make sense, in Dave and Shannon’s system, for Sensory saviors to have a bit of an edge there?
@@KayKayBayForever INTJs and ENTJs have Se and they have plenty enough to get the job done well. But I think you need Ni/Te/Ne/Ti much more than Se. Data collection (Se) is the easy part and it's just a small part of science. The real work comes in understanding the abstract concepts, the extrapolations and applications to real-world, experimental design, statistical analysis and data interpretation. That's all N and T stuff.
someone give me the tldr on this please
tldr:
is that they need to work with a scientist
and that this person has BS and masters and biology and they would love to do it but they are busy
and it takes years to nail down the scientific method.
This guy is an angel
He really is!
Thanks, I haven't done contemporary Jung for a long time. He's soft hands, but this seems to be becoming functional. So good stuff then!
If it develops effective lines of communication then it's a substantive success! I'd like to see it in a few different context ie: church, jury, social club, sitting chair and board.
Very interesting the discuss about consume. I think that taking too much information (more than you can bare) can overload you. Agree with what Dave said that all of us can feel left, misunderstood, or we just don't fit many times.
yes truth!
The spelling/punctuation/grammar (SPG) thing is SO TRUE for me. I consider it as coming from my 6th function, "Critical Parent Ti". I have learned to just shut my mouth most of the time and just let people communicate the way they want to communicate. But I could not be with someone who had poor writing skills. I'd just have this underlying lack of respect. I know it's probably not fair but it is what it is. My boss is an ENTP and he's a SPG Nazi too. Fortunately my best friends tend to be ENFPs and re romantic relationships I tend to be attracted to INFPs and they are great writers!
I thought I was the only one who felt this way. I don't even like using text speak. Thanks for making me feel not so alone!
Cool interview glad you did this :)
Thanks Ande!
As an INTJ, I really found your discussion on 'tribalism' very interesting. My current workplace is trying to implement a 'tribe' environment and after listening to the 8-hour audio file provided to me, it just made me feel nervous as I felt my personality type won't integrate very effectively. After watching this video, I feel that looking for another job is just going to be the easiest way around it lol
Hey Dean! I think our personality type is actually quite adaptable when we want to be, but ... it all depends on what you actually want! Best of luck :)
30:30 they called him a mad man, but when corona started guess who was better prepared
I’m new to typology and started out with Myers-Briggs so I’m still kinda stuck in the whole stereotype thing. I’m confused about the consume, sleep, play thing. Lol what is that!?
Also what are you referring to when you mention feminine vs masculine? Is this something Dave covers in his videos?
Love this video, btw! Great info!
Hey girl welcome!! Yes so a lot of what we are referencing is a part of Objective Personality. It’s a system that has expanded on Cal Jungs original 8 functions and it’s able to more precisely type someone on a scale of of 512 types. Now the Myers-Briggs 16 fully live within that scale but yeah you should check out Dave’s Channel - Dave Super Powers. Also his class is at objectivepersonality.com and it’s been super fun to participate in for the past few months for me. I’ve learned SO MUCH about other people. Cheers and thanks for coming by 🖤
What program did you use to show him things during the convo?
Zoom and adobe acrobat!
I am still not certain about my mbti.
But
I will watch videos play games and read so many things on a topic especially about mbti and sometimes movies specifically on horror movies and thrillers(consume)
Then I talk about it with my family and friends and they all confused about it and everything and me trying to explain it in different ways and also asking about their opinions(gather)
Then I try to type everybody with that videos I watch or articles I read or even horoscope etc and stuff(blast I am thinking)
You mentioned having to learn some of the soft skills to interact with others easier. Something I struggle with. Would you share some of those resources, pls?
26:00 I got that! It's a checkerboard (INTJ stereotype) in the sand, probably by the seaside, meaning: I'm a strategist even when I'm in vacation (?)
thanks for the breakdown, flew over my head
Aight, this was actually really interesting. Would love to see more ^^
Hey! Glad you came by to check it out. Everything on my channel will be biased through an INTJ perspective lol but there will be more stereotype talk in the future for sure. Glad you found this as interesting as I do!
@@InternetLiJo What do you find most annoying/challenging by having the INTJ cognitive stack..? ^^
@@Cossaw Well let's see... having to deal with stupid sensory mishaps when I'm working on something that's actually important. That is probably my number 1 annoyance. Also I dislike having to always explain my Ni process to people if they are questioning why whatever path is the right way to go down. I'll do it (because Te) but sometimes its so hard to explain with words and rarely do people ACTUALLY understand, so they just end up saying "uhh I trust you it's fine". lol
At this point in my life I'm accustomed to living in a world that's all my own. But it's nice finding friends on the internet who think the same way and know what that world is like!
@@InternetLiJo For sure ^^ Can definitely relate with both points of yours.. ^^ Do you have ADD, if you don't mind me asking ^^ I think Se Inferior can definitely feel like having ADD in a way. Idk, just some food for thought. What do you think..? ^_^
I do technically by doctor standards, yes!
Fascinating.
I have issues with consuming a whole lot of information, too
I simply cannot pay attention in 3 hour long lectures or keep reading several pages without taking time to process the information. Does that make me Ni-dom? I can also really identify with Dave's abstract method of communicating. I'd really like to get some traction on my personality type
Hey! So it wouldn’t make you an Ni don for sure, but it would make you more likely to be consume last (as we reference it in OP)
Wow...Dave, the Wizard behind the curtain.
Mah dude!
So much new vocabulary here! I was starting to see light at the end of the tunnel on standard MBTI. Well, now I have to figure out a new list of concepts. No chance of getting board. I can't hate making it all more science based.
I really enjoy OP so much
@@InternetLiJo Thanks for the "OP" key search term! You made it so much easier for me.
Thought for Food Oh. I get excited about new search terms too, and Lindsay is full of them! What type do you think you might be?
@@AK-jt7kh Hi AK, not sure yet. I don't really have any kith or kin interested enough in OP to get much outside input., With the exception of my brother whose 18 years younger than I. He is INTF by M-B and he tells me I'm INTJ. I've considered for a while now and all I'm sure of is that I'm strongly introverted. For my career of course, I had to develop some "adjusted behavior" in order to teach, coach, present and lead a team and be a decent boss.. I also know to a high level of confidence that I am NOT tribe first. How about you? Do you have a firm handle on your type? I was barely conversant in standard Myers-Briggs; there remains a considerable learning curve for me with OP. I am very much fascinated with it, but tend to leave it be for weeks and then come back at it again. Right now I'm absolutely captivated with Advaita Vedanta; I can't figure how I got to 61 without ever having heard a thing about it. Once I've settled out with that I'll most certainly take a fresh look at where I might fall in the 512 types of OP. The OP people say it can take a good long while to finally see your own type. Kind regards, Greg
@@thoughtforfood6854 Oh I see. I don't know much about Advaita Vendanta, but I have put a good deal of time into studying some of the fundamental philosophies of Buddhism. I appreciate self-centric spiritual development over faith-based religious practices. I gather you've probably already spent a bit of time on Buddhist principals. Have you ever read the series The Dalai Lama's Cat? I like it. What type did you say your brother is? Insofar as I am aware, there is no INTF - only INTJ and INTP. As for me, I test as an INTP, and I believe that is probably accurate. I've become quite familiar with my type. It's helped me quite a bit with my own self-improvement. The beauty in the personality system is being able to see your own faults and weaknesses clearly...but I think the most surprising payoff from my research in typology is how much appreciation I've been able to have for people who reason differently. I had a somewhat limited mindset, prior to typology, that there are people who value facts and truth, and people who don't care about being wrong. Learning typology has really expanded my appreciation of what is real, and true. I have more respect for feelings, now, for instance, and I appreciate now, more than ever, how valuable they are as data, and how feelings can so often be more of a reflection of what is "real" than what we people regard as "fact". That isn't to say I devalue my method of analysis in any way, but I have a new respect for the way Feelers process the world. My best friend is an INFJ and I don't know of anyone who is more immune to bias than she is. I've also learned to respect Sensor types quite a bit. Typology studies have made me appreciate the breadth of human potential and I feel like that has been an intellectually liberating experience for me.
Why is Dave so precious? 😍
Lol he’s great! I feel like I’ve known him for years.
He is his mother in the body of a man, that's why.
You mentioned you often have some difficulty enjoying the moment due to always looking ahead rather than just taking in all the details- I wonder if this is truly a common theme of us Ni-doms, since I've heard of it before. I really find it hard to spend a lot of time doing things that are supposed to be "fun," but don't provide an objective goal- but when I do (for example, just browsing youtube) it always feels like a waste of time.
I would absolutely agree with this. Simply put, I just can’t get on board with things for temporal satisfaction over long-standing reward. My brain is not wired that way. But with all things, balance is important.
INTJ here and I so agree with you. Talked about it recently on my new podcast. yournidom.podbean.com/e/i-am-an-ni-dom/
I watch lots of youtube silly videos to cleanse my brain palate when I get too in my head. I watch movies with my family to soothe my soul. I have tons of lovely memories from my childhood that make older adulthood more bearable. I am an over 50 year old intj. I.am your future.😁
I have spent a lot of time watching UA-cam videos of Mr. SuperPOWER than hanging out with my father.
Learning how to consume pointless social interactions is so relatable 😂😅
Reframing it as investing in the relationship instead of getting something from the conversation is real
26:38 "Everywhere you go, there you are"
Still waiting on my cookie, DAVE!
Somehow, as an INTJ, i'm favoring Dave's system than CS Joseph. & i can relate to his process more although it's actually quite complex, if i may say. I'm getting the hang of the O's, D's, PBCS, etc.. This video is packed w/ a whole Ni speed going on. Nice one!
Thank you! Also who is CS Joseph?
@@InternetLiJo Oh yeah I found him on youtube along w/ Frank James & others after i found urchannel couple of wks back. I got drawn w/ the whole typology system that i bought several ebooks & got tunnel-visioned, inside my 'lair' now-lol > switching to Oi/Di, Sleep, Me against tribe stuff.haha. Funny how my vocab is now filled w/ these jargons and just how I view the world, others & myself changed in an instant. Almost like magic. lol. I'm nt sure though if CS Joseph owns his system but Im seeing a lot of INTJ's and INFJ's on youtube coining him.
Thanks to youtube i found u here. Ur my 1st. haha.xD
blog.csjoseph.life/
ua-cam.com/channels/ELhS3lbQQ8GVa2UeoVXAkQ.html
How can I help and learn? Im trying to spread it out like covid. Its tough!
Practice practice practice
"watch them on twice speed"
me watching this 3 years later in 2x speed:
I'm curious what your initial MBTI test said :D
Younger people caring more about whether people understand them sounds legit.
:o I am good at spelling does that mean I'm not an INTJ? 😂 But it's so visual and intuitive for me, it's not like memory fact bizness.
I don't get upset about it unless it interferes with communication though. I kind of did more as a young teen, but I think my dad is ISTJ so that might make sense.
Going through the maze? I wouldn't chew through it, just crawl over the top, way easier. But there IS always something better :D
I think I keep getting confused about how strong my Fi is because I spent a couple years trying to figure out how to people effectively after really messing up a friendship by being, well, kind of a nutjob. Actually what got me into MBTI at all. Working on trying to a) figure out how to understand people well enough to get better expectations of them and b) understand myself enough to figure out why I was so messed up and insecure.
My consume is definitely not last. I couldn't say if it is first or not but it's definitely not last. I would be surprised if I am anything but play last 😅 ... although as Dave elaborates a little, mine hasn't really been very mature, either. It's only been really quite recently that my consume activities have been deliberate and for self improvement rather than just spending 3 days on the couch with a novel about dragons. Maybe I don't fully grasp what he means by consume. 🤷♀️
Great interview, lots of nice insights. Thanks!
I tested INTJ in both MBTI, Objective Personality, and Eric Thor’s system. But with OP you are evaluated, you don’t test your own type so there is no subjective bias involved :)
Consume is “taking in” for the “self” - new things, new ideas, books, video games, food, thoughts, all for the sake of personal enjoyment.
@@InternetLiJo does taking things in for the sake of personal growth and/or scratching the itch of the thirst for knowledge count toward this also?
35:00 you're saying that ExxJs and IxxPs are predisposed towards narcissism?
Towards being a victim of narcissists or more motivated to make videos about narcissists/recovery.
@@80808O interesting
The list of INTJ hobbies (Including "To Do" lists) at the 41:14 mark was dead-on.
The amount of to do lists I make is insane 😂
So I was just realizing today how much I love making to do lists lol. I literally made 3 different kinds of to do lists for one test week that's coming. Also, crossing tasks off my lists when I've finished them is sooo satisfying.
I love this interview! One thing I have to disagree with is that I think you do look like some intjs that I know. A lot of times, the tertiary fi comes out as an unusual fashion choice or hairstyle.
Hahah thanks Andrea! You are one of very few who will ever day that. I know of some INTJs who have a similar thing going too, we aren’t the majority and that’s fine. Thanks for joining the conversation :)
I have an INTJ female friend who used to have dreads! I was shocked when I first found out about it haha
Wearing a flannel jacket atop burgundy pants and shirt because it looks good... Check.
Driving a V8 granny boat with custom mufflers, switching between driving like an elderly person and a paranoid hood teen... Check.
Creating a fictional reptile character who's half goth and half tribal... Check.
@17:00 it's called "qualification" - had that realization my first year of college
What does it mean if I get really annoyed and angry by hearing other people saying incorrect facts or incorrect assumptions, and I also get annoyed when somebody else keeps bothering me and is talking too much to me. What is my deamon function based on this? It is my big struggle when I have to interact with people and not get annoyed. I also procrastinate often when I have something important to do (like writing a letter of motivation). I know many people don't like me because they see me as arrogant, but I can't help myself getting annoyed by them. I hate when somebody has low standards or wants something important to be easy and complains that others have high expectations of him/her. I just plainly think those people are stupid. I know they are right when they say I am arrogant, and I am really worried I stay like this forever and will not achieve anything in life because of that. I am also afraid I am biased and that is why I can't decide what my type is. Do you have any opinion on what my deamon function might be? Is the information I wrote here even relevant to my question?
It sounds from this dialogue that you have savior Ti and demon Fe. Also in Objective Personality terms it sounds as if you have low “play”. You also probably have Ne or Se as a savior function which will lead to the procrastination issues because you have Ti want to do something else. Those are just my thoughts!
@@InternetLiJo Thanks for giving it a thought. I have been watching videos about personalities for about two years and I still can't figure out my type because I am so biased. Have a nice day.
23:29 "Make fun of others grammar mistakes"
Guilty! lol
Other's
@@avocado_toast2 thank
@@nottjonathan Thanks*
@@CossawYour welcome
Alex L others’ 😝
I took the Briggs Meyers without knowing anything about personality types, but I've always been honest and accepting of who I am. So when I read the description for INTJ it fit 90% of the time. My differences involved showing love to my children, I believe my childhood is the reason for that, though I do raise them as an INTJ parent. And I consume constantly(usually multiple things at once), but again my childhood is the reason. Though finding loopholes is my jam. D&D Dungeon Masters hate me.
Hey my Dad is an INTJ and was an amazing loving Dad. Not all of those stereotypes are legit or even close. As INTJs we have that Te, so we always end up being slightly self sacrificing to others.
@@InternetLiJo true, but I can definitely say I'm almost a completely different person around my kids. It's a conscious choice to be the Dad I never had. Gotta love that will power.
The Chesh sooo much Ni willpower 🖤
That maze at 24:10 is so inefficient. Just look at the left side - it would be impossible to get in there and get lost, which is the point. If you go in and just take the right turn every time you'll be out in no time.
But the funniest thing about it?
I'm an ENTP and critiquing this maze design literally feels like being a grammar Nazi (which I also am, although I forgive typos and have a well thought-out framework for matching the severity of grammar precision to the medium of communication) just like you were talking about in the previous meme....
You did a good job! I don't know you. will check out your channel.
Thanks!! I hope you find some things that resonate with you here.
L J Te speaking
That interview was mental booming me in the very best way! Thank you!! Have to go over it a least one more time!
So, what is it when you ask others for their opinions, even though you've already made up your mind? But the purpose of the survey isn't necessarily to see if you should change your mind (although it might). I've had several friends/family say to me, when I do this, "Why are you asking me when you know you're going to do what you want to do anyway?" That sounds like "self above tribe", to use your terms.
Ever since I happened upon your channel, I've heard a lot of terms I've never heard before. I recently learned about the idea of the function stack, and then, through your channel, learned about objective typing and the idea that there are 512 types, when you factor in the "subtypes," I guess they could be called. Mathematically, the 512 suggests to me that there are 32 subtypes of each of the original 16.
🤣Running around the internet watching videos @ 2x😂
If it's a day where Erik Thor is a bit tired, he's just right at 1.25x😬
Lolol
Is that Ne eyes
Is it possible to be an INTJ consume first? This coming from someone who has never heard this stuff about consuming before...
He doesn’t come across at ALL like someone who doesn’t use Fe. He must have worked on it, lol. Very congenial.
Well we hope with time we balance all those things well. That is absolutely my goal.
You need to work on what you think is solely Fe...
Yeah sometimes I don't understand how he could intj
Im blast last and I'm picking up speed, look out haha
You’re going to kill it!!
The spelling one I've seen linked to ISTJ too. I'll notice, but as you said I don't really care. So I'm not likely to actually comment on it.
Okay, after watching this, I like Play but realized I definitely have Consume way over Play. I LOOOVE consuming. I get in the zone with that. I spend HOURS EVERY DAY researching the internet, YT, reading books etc to absorb as much information as possible on my interests to help me strategize optimally and position myself best to implement my long-term business goals and passion project. To give some perspective, behind me are two (of my many) bookcases and in one of them are over 120 books just on web design and development. And I have read most all of them or at least the parts I bought them for (in the case of the programming "cook books"). I have another whole bookcase full of nothing but psychology, philosophy and science books. And another 2 bookcases just on gardening, environmental, ecology and sustainability books.
This consume also sort of plays out in that I am very good at writing technical manuals because I am good at breaking down the steps for non-tech users to really be able to follow along. I spend a lot of time perfecting these manuals. At work, I'm a system administrator and developer but my two bosses always come to me to write user guides for our department. It's not my favorite thing to do but I do like it and I'm really good at it.
So yeah, my consume is very deliberate and focused for the most part. I will read a whole book in a day or too if it's not to big (larger ones I tend to read in spurts and interrupt to consume other stuff too). I occasionally go down the rabbit hole of listening to music videos on YT but that's more rare. It's like an amazing awesome addiction. The PROBLEM is that my dishes really need to get done and they don't. I need to make enough money to hire a maid.
Grammar mistakes and spelling mistakes irk me quite a bit, but I think it's more because I'm an English teacher. There's no way I'm an ENFP or ENTP. That being said, I know you guys weren't claiming that as an ultimate truth. Also, I guess I don't actually go around correcting people online, lol. I only correct people who pay me to do so. On rare occasions, I might online correct if said grammar criminal idiotically tries to prove him or herself right in response to another person correcting them. Okay have a good day.
What type is Dave?
"INTJ Jumper"... Ni - Fi
Free but no content on the site is accessible without signing up first. Ok.
He has a UA-cam channel with all
Of the free content. Class material is $20 a month, stupid cheap for what you get.
Zen?
Dave actually seems like a jumper isfp .. He's adorable btw
ISFP
Yeah I've been theorizing on this as well... Good to see an ISFP feel the same ...
This is actually what I am wondering watching this video before scrolling to this comment. It would make a ton of sense. He reminds me of ISFPs I know
Well...he’s also been obsessing over this typology thing right? And I think he’s an INTJ jumper, right? So...That would mean he uses Fi as a savior I think? As that is his third function (and he is a jumper)...and if he works really hard at self-improvement, he might be particularly good at Se, because he’s spent such a long time trying to develop that demon function. That may give him the appearance of being an ISFP.
@@AK-jt7kh I think he's actually an ENTJ using role Fe
@@allisonscanlan4144 Ahh. They talk about it at 18:24 where they discuss how Dave is an INTJ jumper, and Lindsay is a "typical" INTJ.
Yeah, you are left out when you are living in the countryside in the middle of nowhere.
What you mean you talk a lot about it in class?Are you a student ?How old are you?How old is he?What is the place of this class?...I know I miss a lot of things
Hahah missing information! Yes it’s a class: objectivepersonality.com check it out
this was a great video thank you. you remind me of ENFP though. Definitely more dominant Fi.
Dave is Ni/Fi dominant! I am not, but I am married to an ENFP, we have some videos together where you can see the clear contrast.
@@InternetLiJo I saw the video it was really good. Thank you.
Ugh, my stomach sunk when I realized this video confirms... geez I don’t even want to say it. 😆 Great video! What is the channel/person that you learned “emotion” stuff from?
Probably every channel on youtube since it is such a normal thing except for us intj’s
Kind of Edward Norton talk
I just discovered that I might have Consume last
I'm sorry--LiJo, you look awesome. Super Dave and Frank James are great, and I've seen several of your videos, but I am completely enamored by your look. This is just a comment, no follow up or reply is needed. Keep doing what you're doing. Thanks.
Thanks Paul. I’ll follow up if I want to 😉
@@InternetLiJo Cool. Now, I think there is something to this--And I will discuss this with Mr. SuperDave when we get the chance, but I have noticed that certain people (you, Shaylyn, Frank James (I know, that's kinda weird because I'm a guy (not that there's anything wrong with that))) have mesmerizing eyes--to me. Someone like Psychology Tea is cute and I like her style--but you guys have eyes that mesmerize me. Has anyone else noticed this? I (think) am an INFJ--are we susceptible to this? It would be good to know it if we are--I don't want to blindly follow the next Frank James because of his eyes. Sheesh. Thanks.
Dave is super cute.
Infj and isfp
Have you ever checked another typing system to see if you're an ENTP that's been typed as an INTJ? ENTPs are supposedly very hard to type correctly
Yes I’ve been typed as an INTJ in 3 different systems
Jung as a cult and online industry
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Interesting, but I need a more efficient presentation.
Oy vey... am I going to get into this stuff...
The inferior IS NOT the demon function. It is the inferior function. The heirarchy goes (Hero, Parent, Child, Inferior, Nemesis, Critic, Trickster, Demon). Please read John Beebe and watch youtuber C.S. Joseph.
I’m referring to the terminology used in the objective personality method.
In OP you have two savior functions and two demon functions in your set of 4.
@@InternetLiJo Sure, I get what he is trying to accomplish. Basically, you have the Hero function #1 and the Demon function #8. #2-7 are not actually listed in order of prevalance of use, but are arbitrary. Some INTJ's may be better at their inferior function (Se) over their Child function (Fi) even though the Child is higher in the list. This is where nature comes into play and outside pressure forces us to use different coginitive functions over others based on our experiences. But this is an ever evolving thing. That personality system is overly complex when it doesn't need to be and typing someone that way is merely taking a snapshot of how they are currently. Which will change.
Interesting, I love it! I’ve found you can use it to see functions in the same person younger, older, whatever. It’s not “easy” but I think a more comprehensive system allows for a greater degree of understanding. It’s not something the personality community has seen before, so there’s likely to be resistance. What I can say is, when I apply the parts I’ve learned, it works, in real life. Not just “typing people” but understanding people’s brains very specifically and leveraging your communication to their functions. I honestly feel like I have an unfair advantage in interpersonal communications now. Luckily... I’m not an asshole lol. All in all, it’s what I do for fun, so... yep!
@@InternetLiJo Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are parts that are useful. Listen to all, follow none. I think you will find great use out of C.S. Joseph's channel and how it covers the 4 sides of the mind. (Ego, Unconscious, Subconcious, Super Ego). Hint, each side has its own personality type. INTJ subconscious is ESFP, but this is an easy one that you probably already knew about. Our unconscious is ENTP and super ego is ISFJ. The whole way he explains it just makes a ton of sense. I would start with his explanation of Who are the INTJ's just so you know that he gets it. Then watch any other video that peaks your interest (Aka probably all of them).
This conversation is such bs
Can you give link for that one girl at youtube who tell how to fe i reallyyy need that🥲🥲