@@OwenWilliams-ox9kd Match fixing is when you rig the result of the match for betting purposes, spot fixing is where you rig a certain event to occur for betting purposes. For example; knowing the official will give over a certain number of cards. This is much harder to the spot and much more prevelant than traditional match fixing. That being said, while in the top level of competition it's highly unlikely any of this happens now, it's still very prevelant in lower leagues and top level leagues outside of Europe. Idiocy of officials and the problems caused due to officiating standards should not be mistaken for malicious actions. They aren't evil, just stupid.
I'm a leeds fan and it's so nice to not having var this season. Ye there is still frustrating wrong decisions always will be but atleast when you score you can just enjoy it
Exactly, anti var forget why it was installed. Before var we would criticise it but accept the on field decision.We are no longer prepared to do that with obvious wrong calls,
Removing VAR is not the solution, fix VAR is. Some of the horrendous errors made by VAR are so bad I can't believe it is due to incompetence, not when every single supporter and spectator can see the error. It's corruption, simple as that.
Exactly, I cannot understand why people do not understand this. Many of the decisions the incompetent refs get wrong after using VAR are actually the same the on-pitch referees initially give. Get rid of VAR and those decisions would still be wrong then people would go back to slating the refs.
@@paulb267 PPL like you forget how bad decisions used to be b4 VAR. Refs would get away with far worse. What we need is accountability for officials who get it wrong. People also forget how many times VAR has saved a poor decision because we move on from those so quickly.
Is the argument here that VAR should go because they are making the wrong decision? Because without VAR the ref on the field still gave the wrong decision. The biggest argument for VAR is to go back and look at some of the decisions which were given before VAR was introduced. The biggest argument against VAR is that the refs are still making mistakes, but that was a problem before VAR and would not magically go away if it were removed. We as spectators have a higher bar for correct decisions now that there is less justification for an incorrect decision, but I still believe that any evidenced look at how many more correct decisions are made with VAR in operation would conclude it is improving the situation even if the refs using it are still not at the competency we would like.
I think you're making too much sense here for this channel. The "get rid of VAR" is just a lazy man's approach. Or he's doing it for clicks, I don't know.
@@anythingpeteives when ref went to the screen they were live to the crowd and tv audience explained for example ’ penalty given, handball x player.’ ‘ No penalty, insufficient contact yellow card x player for simulation’
I saw that foul on mudryk and thought thats a pen and the replay made it even more obvious but the ref didnt go back to VAR they did that because they wanted italy to qualify instead of ukraine
I actually like VAR. It's done a good job in Germany's Bundesliga overall, our spotty decisions have been WAY more far and few in between. However, i still think it should be amended similarly to how Grass-Hockey handles VAR: Both Coaches have a "Green Card" available to *force* the referee to review a decision once per half. If the referee agrees that the decision was wrong, the green card is immediately refunded and they get to use it again as necessary. Just having that mechanic in existence massively decreased both fouls and refereeing errors in that sport, so why wouldn't football profit from copying it?
I think it will inevitably lower refereeing standards knowing that if they get something wrong VAR can save them. It’s like having sat nav so you don’t make as much effort to memorise journey routes. Take it away and it will force them to do they’re job properly
No it should be the other way around. If the pitch referee mucks about VAR should be able to stop the game and call it back to the issue. If anything VAR should highlight bad referees because it'd need to intervene more.
Your stuck in hating on when the truth comes out😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Yea it seam its your team that has gone to the euro's so its ok for you tp jate when someone calling it for what it is. Shut up!
One thing about us (Leeds) getting relegated has made me remember how much more natural and enjoyable football is without VAR. And we’re talking far less about VAR errors and more about the football.
Completely agree. Without VAR teams would get some decisions against them and some for them. It used to be swings and roundabouts. Now it's either swings or roundabouts. VAR favours some teams and not others. As a referee myself it's better for the game without VAR or at least until they have the right technology. People understand that refs can't always get the right decision but when VAR takes 5 minutes and still makes the wrong decision it might as well not exist.
As you said, get an independent panel in the VAR room. Also change the offside rule to the last players foot, no need to over-complicate it with lines needed for upper body parts.
VAR has become a perfect tool for corruption. Like it or not, but any referee can now dictate the outcome of most game by speculative use of VAR. You can almost always find something to disallow a goal. You can almost always find something in a game to award a team a penalty. And you can blatantly ignore whatever you want.
Any referee can dictate the outcome of the game without VAR. If you want to remove VAR, then you do not have the right to get angry at an offside goal scored against you, or a blatant red card not being given etc.
Is there a team in the PL that looks like it is benefitting consistently from suspect var decisions, either in its own games or in games where it goes against its rivals?
@user-tn8uu2cu8g Im starting with the man in the mirror, im asking him to make a change, and no message could have been any clearer, if you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make that change!
If you recruit specialist VAR techs, I wouldn't trust that they could be kept impartial. For a start they'd surely have teams they support themselves. Secondly it would be too easy for them to be "bought" by a variety of interested parties. The base problem is the amount of money in the game makes disinterested fairness unprofitable.
@@Edmures_rampant_manhood Oh, they absolutely can and probably are. But that only proves my point. No matter what group of supposedly neutral arbiters you appoint, true neutrality is impossible in any practical sense. Adding another level isn't necessarily a solution.
That's why you ask referees who they support and then get a mix of people in to check each other. For example if both Manchester clubs are playing each other get refs and VAR techs that don't support either club and instead support Rotherham or West Brom. Like in internationals you have referees that aren't from either country to try and keep it as balanced as possible.
@@b8nnytez If you,ve heard the live recording of var officials you,ll know they admit to massive error. I believe this game should have been replayed as its the only case where the factually correct decision was not communicated to the ref. By the way ,Clouseau was a lousy detective
The problem with taking var away now, is were just have the same " oh if we still had var then that would of been given" cant take it away now, just replace the refs in the var room
One of the reasons Cricket's video referral works is because of the open communication that is showcased to everyone. Maybe football can take some inspo from there.
Come off it mate, Mudryk's first touch was stinking, he knew it instantly and dived about 6 yards in the opposite direction. Absolutely correct decision.
The worst part of VAR is not being able to celebrate goals......they go looking for issues and sometimes find them and then sometimes (same play) allow it.
The Pires ‘’dive’’ you mentioned would probably be a penalty these days. He’d be called ‘clever’ for ‘’winning a penalty’’. Well he would if his name was Harry Kane! By the way that penalty was in the 33rd minute not the 93rd so the chances are Arsenal would still have got something from that game!
Mark saying “Arsenal wouldn’t have been invincibles if there was VAR”, like Manchester United would have won half the PL titles they won under Fergie without the corrupt referees in Fergie’s pocket 😂
@user-tn8uu2cu8g Yeah, um Dave, looking for an angle on this one. Mm hmmm, yeah, it looks like we got a false prophet here, just show me the reverse angle there, yeah, no doubt in my mind Rob, but you'd better take a look yourself, cos I'm not calling that, no f*cking chance! Good process lads! Now get the lines out! 🤪
It wasn't a stonewall penalty Mark. Mudryk left his leg in a little, waited for contact. Could it have been given? Yep. But I can also see why it wasnt. Not a VAR issue.
@@draz3901 Lies. Funny how there’s a frame where the contact has already been made yet Mudryk’s standing foot is still planted. It’s almost like he tucked his standing foot in as he was taken out to protect his standing leg being snapped. Why do people insist on straight up f*cking gaslighting people when the evidence is on camera. Clown world.
It’s not often that I agree with you Mark, but on this topic I couldn’t agree more! I never liked VAR since it’s inception, it takes away from football, everything that generations of fans have loved for decades about the game, the injustices, the feeling of getting one over your biggest rival, etc, gone! Get rid of VAR and do it sooner rather than later!
Speaking sense sir. The only thing that should have been introduced since the pass back rule, was goal line technology. Nothing else required for the betterment of the sport.
They ABSOLUTELY need to find VARs who both know the game AND KNOW HOW TO PROPERLY USE TECHNOLOGY. Have a ref in the room who can't touch a mouse and keyboard and someone separate drawing the lines know what he's doing, switching cameras quickly, competently drawing lines, and having some common sense.
Think we should do it like nba, the manager can have 3 var calls meaning if he really thinks the team has been messed up he can use one of his calls. This also makes management more exciting and impactful
I would: 1. Allow each team one challenge per half - like tennis. 2. If they win the challenge. They retain it for the remaining half. 3. Offside and ref assistance when requested only. 4. It should only be used minimally - refs decisions go.
IT IS the VAR that is ruining football because as a sports man playing is the emotion ,you score a goal and you have to wait for 5mins to Check for a VAR check before celebrating, that's not what football was supposed to be like ,it isn't natural now . Also this has made the game go so soft ,you are getting pens in almost every match now ,sometimes multiple ,previously it used to be much much rare ,it's as if football has gone off . Additionally the increased amount of injuries ... football isn't about the sport ,the emotion any longer It is about how much money can be made off of it . Players like maguire / Antony/ mudryk being bought for humongous fee's but without proving much before . Clubs like Chelsea literally buying 15 and 16year olds for huge fee's like 30 and 40mil when they SHOULD BE GOING TO SCHOOL ,saying this as a ,chslea fan.
The problem is the tech and the individuals who are using the tech remember the World Cup no one complained about var it was fair and it had better tech
I think VAR should go back to what it was intended to do. It was brought in to highlight things that the ref didn’t see, like off the ball incidents or balls going over the line. It’s not for measuring a millimetre on the foot of a player and calling him offside
So rather than try and improve VAR and the people who run it, we should remove it because there's less accountability for the referee? I genuinely can't believe he used the fact that Arsenal not going unbeaten if VAR was used, as an example of why we shouldn't have it. Literally advocating for getting wrong decisions because its easier to digest and fits the narrative of a teams footballing achievements. Isn't this the same issue that you have with referees in big games? Scared to give big decisions like in the Ukraine game yesterday because maybe a massive footballing nation doesn't make it to the euros.
5:56 definitely agree with this, I imagine it like a jury in a courtroom: ensure they have no horse in the race, and that they are adequately familiar with what's going on in the game.
VAR as a whole has to be practiced behind the scenes. Training should involve rewatching games as if they’re live. That way refs can do a proper job with no pressure and improve. This should be done by all referees BEFORE putting it into practice live.
If VAR had existed Manu would have had 3 players sent off at OT when Arsenal lost the invincible record. But I hear what you’re saying though 😂. Look fans need to vote with their feet, enough with the dictatorship of the governing body
Ange was right - human error is inherent in football and on field errors are preferable to VAR which causes excessive delays, denies joyous goals and comes to bad decisions as it is still a human judgment based system. We have just taken the error from the field to a high tech room which pretends to be infallible when its not but which compounds fan unhappiness. We have to accept that on field decisions will be error prone but that VAR doesn't improve this. Goal line tech is good as is the semi-automatic offside tech, But VAR relies too much on humans. The other option is to follow cricket and only allow VAR only when the on-field ref requests it and where each team can challenge the on field ref twice per match.
VAR isnt the problem its the people using it, that being said nothing is being done about the constant mistakes being made by the on field and off field decisions and when a manager comes out and criticises it they are thrown under the bus and hit by everything possible. It's just become a tool for the referees to stay centre of attention and make whatever decisions they want and whichever body is in charge of the referees during the game will back them no matter what
Var is there to correct serious errors only. The real problem is that this standard has been lost and people like mark now think it’s there to re-referee matches.
I think VAR should be used like in Cricket or Tennis where the teams can have 3 reviews in a half which are not used up when the original call was wrong.
Scrap VAR- Scrap offside- keep , not only goal line technology, but line technology from cornerflag to cornerflag- scrap linesmen- get two offisiells on the pitch.
Specialists would eventually be corrupted by outside influences, all expenses paid trips to Dubai or Abu Dhabi or some off-the-cuff comment by a top level UEFA official, just for examples. AI is the future of officiating!
In handball there are two referees, one "inside" who stands behind the end line and the "outside" who looks at the game from behind the attack. The one who's half of the pitch it is, is the main decision maker on that half. Throw away the VAR, add one ref, use the diode technology that already exists with offside and goal/pitch line technology. BINGO
3:06 Mark realizes sometimes calls would have been different with VAR and asks to get put back into the matrix. Here's a fact: there's no way to determine perfectly and objectively. In some interpretations, Arsenal would have been invincible, in some they wouldn't. We can try our best, but that doesn't mean VAR will be unquestionable.
Just make it like the old Sky Sports feature where they had fans commentating on the teams. 1 fan from each team in the VAR box, televise it. Would be more entertaining than the football.
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it wont happen there more protected then the teachers kid
Doggie style Mark? Really?
It was never a penalty. Clear dive
Let's just start calling it...ITS CORRUPT
@@maldini3184 Pen all day, according to our new Wussie rules.
VAR is basically a spot fixing ring, other VAR officials looking at PGMOL thinking “we can do that and make some money”
Sport fixing ring you mean
Remember when Qatar host the world cup and most of Europe fans calling it sports washing!
Hights of hypocrisy
@@OwenWilliams-ox9kd Match fixing is when you rig the result of the match for betting purposes, spot fixing is where you rig a certain event to occur for betting purposes. For example; knowing the official will give over a certain number of cards. This is much harder to the spot and much more prevelant than traditional match fixing.
That being said, while in the top level of competition it's highly unlikely any of this happens now, it's still very prevelant in lower leagues and top level leagues outside of Europe. Idiocy of officials and the problems caused due to officiating standards should not be mistaken for malicious actions. They aren't evil, just stupid.
RING STING
definitely easier when there is someone not on the pitch involved in the decisions to rig the games
VAR is not the problem mark it's the individuals who use it are the real problems without VAR so many mistakes will be happening on weekly basis
So many mistakes are happening with it though? In multiple different leagues. Doesn’t matter who is behind it.
I'm a leeds fan and it's so nice to not having var this season. Ye there is still frustrating wrong decisions always will be but atleast when you score you can just enjoy it
Exactly, anti var forget why it was installed. Before var we would criticise it but accept the on field decision.We are no longer prepared to do that with obvious wrong calls,
Removing VAR is not the solution, fix VAR is. Some of the horrendous errors made by VAR are so bad I can't believe it is due to incompetence, not when every single supporter and spectator can see the error. It's corruption, simple as that.
Exactly, I cannot understand why people do not understand this. Many of the decisions the incompetent refs get wrong after using VAR are actually the same the on-pitch referees initially give. Get rid of VAR and those decisions would still be wrong then people would go back to slating the refs.
UEFA needed Italy in the Euros as defending Champs. Absolute shambles that Ukraine did not get a penalty
Mudryk needs to not flail around as soon as he sees Cristante’s foot. Clear exaggeration by him
tbf wasnt italy already qualified even if they lost
nah if Ukraine won then they would have gone through instead of Italy@@kalza5774 .
@@marcelom9215doesn’t matter, Mudryk could do a triple backflip and it would still be a penalty
@@kalza5774no Ukraine and Italy were both tied on points, if Ukraine won Italy wouldn’t be going to Germany
"VAR is like going Doggystyle before mastering missionary" best reference to date! 😂
Absolute gold😂
THAT LITERALLY MADE ME LAUGH OUT LOUD 🤣🤣🤣 TAKE A BOW SON 👍
Have you seen the women in Leeds??...there, you master doggystyle first!
The sooner we realise VAR was NEVER brought in to correct referees mistakes but to control outcomes, the better off we will be
only in England, its improved the game everywhere else
@@onlythetruth596 Nope. Last weekends games proved that it's everywhere.
@@onlythetruth596 Which magnifying glass do you watch football through. VAR is pisspoor. VAR has not improved football one bit but made it worse.
@@NowegianRich what one match day in Europe is now equivalent to every match day in England that’s corrupt?
Give it a rest mate
@@paulb267 PPL like you forget how bad decisions used to be b4 VAR. Refs would get away with far worse. What we need is accountability for officials who get it wrong. People also forget how many times VAR has saved a poor decision because we move on from those so quickly.
The Premier League VAR is worse than the international 1s 😢
Prem should actually be PUNISHED by UEFA for their Galactic cheating and cooking of books .. Disgrace!
not surprised. prem teams voted against using the VAR from Qatar world cup
@@marklawrence6958 and they should have. Good thing there were no controversial decisions in the world cup 🤨
@@EditScope Far less than in 2 weeks of PL football.
@user-tn8uu2cu8g No
As a Ukrainian fan I feel like we were robbed there. I hope Ukraine can still qualify via the playoffs, because there is so much talent in the squad.
it wouldve been a pen if Mudryk didnt throw himself to the ground
@@nitralz Shouldn't matter whether he did or didn't. There is clearly contact.
You would still have to score it
@@zach_agt_8989 it does, theres small contact and he flies as if he has just been 2 footed
@@djsjtj1731 i mean, at least we'd had the opportunity to score
Is the argument here that VAR should go because they are making the wrong decision? Because without VAR the ref on the field still gave the wrong decision.
The biggest argument for VAR is to go back and look at some of the decisions which were given before VAR was introduced. The biggest argument against VAR is that the refs are still making mistakes, but that was a problem before VAR and would not magically go away if it were removed. We as spectators have a higher bar for correct decisions now that there is less justification for an incorrect decision, but I still believe that any evidenced look at how many more correct decisions are made with VAR in operation would conclude it is improving the situation even if the refs using it are still not at the competency we would like.
I think you're making too much sense here for this channel. The "get rid of VAR" is just a lazy man's approach. Or he's doing it for clicks, I don't know.
At this point VAR mistakes are worse than human errors back in the day. A big shout out to your podcast Mark, work at its finest.
VAR would be the best thing to ever happen to football if it was actually used correctly on a consistent basis and the handball rule wasn't so blurry.
Honestly think the handball rule is worse than it has ever been, hardly ever makes sense.
In the women’s World Cup it was fantastic. The ref was miked up to explain everything.
@@fayesouthall6604no
@@fayesouthall6604do you mean explain, or justify?
@@anythingpeteives when ref went to the screen they were live to the crowd and tv audience explained for example ’ penalty given, handball x player.’ ‘ No penalty, insufficient contact yellow card x player for simulation’
I saw that foul on mudryk and thought thats a pen and the replay made it even more obvious but the ref didnt go back to VAR they did that because they wanted italy to qualify instead of ukraine
SLAVA ITALII!!!
Spaghetti Mafia FC are always carried by the referees.....
@@LetMeDrink-JackGrealish still crying after 3 years England fan 😂😂😂
I actually like VAR. It's done a good job in Germany's Bundesliga overall, our spotty decisions have been WAY more far and few in between. However, i still think it should be amended similarly to how Grass-Hockey handles VAR: Both Coaches have a "Green Card" available to *force* the referee to review a decision once per half. If the referee agrees that the decision was wrong, the green card is immediately refunded and they get to use it again as necessary. Just having that mechanic in existence massively decreased both fouls and refereeing errors in that sport, so why wouldn't football profit from copying it?
I think it will inevitably lower refereeing standards knowing that if they get something wrong VAR can save them. It’s like having sat nav so you don’t make as much effort to memorise journey routes. Take it away and it will force them to do they’re job properly
No it should be the other way around. If the pitch referee mucks about VAR should be able to stop the game and call it back to the issue. If anything VAR should highlight bad referees because it'd need to intervene more.
Already with offside!
Remember when some people said football will be boring when VAR was introduced???
We see what you trying to do here Mark, Damage control. Don't bring pgmol sht to Euro. Sorry
Got that spot on Mark. VAR is making football hard to watch. Second guessing every goal our team scores is not fun!
Your stuck in hating on when the truth comes out😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yea it seam its your team that has gone to the euro's so its ok for you tp jate when someone calling it for what it is.
Shut up!
Maguire was also a stone cold penalty!
@user-tn8uu2cu8g where can I sign up for the scum ?
One thing about us (Leeds) getting relegated has made me remember how much more natural and enjoyable football is without VAR. And we’re talking far less about VAR errors and more about the football.
Completely agree. Without VAR teams would get some decisions against them and some for them. It used to be swings and roundabouts. Now it's either swings or roundabouts. VAR favours some teams and not others. As a referee myself it's better for the game without VAR or at least until they have the right technology. People understand that refs can't always get the right decision but when VAR takes 5 minutes and still makes the wrong decision it might as well not exist.
VAR was specifically introduced for such controversial issues. Whether it was a penalty or not, the referee should have gone and looked by himeself
“It’s doggy style before you can master missionary…”
Mark and his analogies 😂😂😂 oh no.
Not being able to celebrate a goal fully has stolen the best part of football.
Not really it’s not that big of a deal at all
@@blakemelhuish1118You must be a teenager
@@PvtVallen Teen or pensioner, but he's definitely not a football fan. That goal celebration is what all fans live for in the game.
If you say this, then you do not have the right to be angry if an offside goal counts against your team, when VAR is removed.
As you said, get an independent panel in the VAR room. Also change the offside rule to the last players foot, no need to over-complicate it with lines needed for upper body parts.
VAR has become a perfect tool for corruption. Like it or not, but any referee can now dictate the outcome of most game by speculative use of VAR. You can almost always find something to disallow a goal. You can almost always find something in a game to award a team a penalty.
And you can blatantly ignore whatever you want.
Any referee can dictate the outcome of the game without VAR. If you want to remove VAR, then you do not have the right to get angry at an offside goal scored against you, or a blatant red card not being given etc.
Is there a team in the PL that looks like it is benefitting consistently from suspect var decisions, either in its own games or in games where it goes against its rivals?
@@richardbroad2848hmmm, I wonder...🤔😂😂😂😂😂😂
@user-tn8uu2cu8g Im starting with the man in the mirror, im asking him to make a change, and no message could have been any clearer, if you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make that change!
I think Italy should have been automatically qualified as winners of the previous euros
Yes, but that wasn't in the rules, so they bent the rules to cover their FU up.
Disgraceful.
If you recruit specialist VAR techs, I wouldn't trust that they could be kept impartial. For a start they'd surely have teams they support themselves. Secondly it would be too easy for them to be "bought" by a variety of interested parties. The base problem is the amount of money in the game makes disinterested fairness unprofitable.
You think refs can't be bought? You think refs don't have clubs they support?
@@Edmures_rampant_manhood Oh, they absolutely can and probably are. But that only proves my point. No matter what group of supposedly neutral arbiters you appoint, true neutrality is impossible in any practical sense. Adding another level isn't necessarily a solution.
@@vickiekostecki it might not work, but at least it would (theoretically) eliminate the VAR refs potentially protecting their on field ref buddies.
That's why you ask referees who they support and then get a mix of people in to check each other. For example if both Manchester clubs are playing each other get refs and VAR techs that don't support either club and instead support Rotherham or West Brom.
Like in internationals you have referees that aren't from either country to try and keep it as balanced as possible.
Arsenal wouldn't have been the Invincibles with VAR? Roy Keane would have never have finished a game with VAR.
VAR should only be for offside and pens. Not for Potential Red Cards. They ruin the game.
I agree with the main point, but you can't know that Arsenal wouldn't have scored v Portsmouth another way.
What's going on is CORRUPTION..... Yeah that's what I wrote CORRUPTION
VAR legit as a six pound note😅😅😅
If thats true then having no var wont change that by on field ref. Easy accusation to make ,evidence?
@@msimms-ft9yv um, Liverpool goal v Spurs! 😂
case sol-ved as Clouseau would say😂
You can't honestly BE that blind, Shirley?😂
@@b8nnytez If you,ve heard the live recording of var officials you,ll know they admit to massive error. I believe this game should have been replayed as its the only case where the factually correct decision was not communicated to the ref. By the way ,Clouseau was a lousy detective
Come on mark, Rooney diving for the penalty that ended 49 unbeaten games, short memory.
The problem with taking var away now, is were just have the same " oh if we still had var then that would of been given" cant take it away now, just replace the refs in the var room
Mudryk left his leg there and dived. Cristante didn’t foul him.
As for the VAR, it’s the individuals responsible.
One of the reasons Cricket's video referral works is because of the open communication that is showcased to everyone. Maybe football can take some inspo from there.
Come off it mate, Mudryk's first touch was stinking, he knew it instantly and dived about 6 yards in the opposite direction. Absolutely correct decision.
It must go simple as that
The worst part of VAR is not being able to celebrate goals......they go looking for issues and sometimes find them and then sometimes (same play) allow it.
The Pires ‘’dive’’ you mentioned would probably be a penalty these days. He’d be called ‘clever’ for ‘’winning a penalty’’. Well he would if his name was Harry Kane!
By the way that penalty was in the 33rd minute not the 93rd so the chances are Arsenal would still have got something from that game!
There is that technology for fast offsides, it was used at the World Cup. Semi automated offsides
Mark saying “Arsenal wouldn’t have been invincibles if there was VAR”, like Manchester United would have won half the PL titles they won under Fergie without the corrupt referees in Fergie’s pocket 😂
Arsenal would have win the champion league if VAR was in cause bara 2 goal would have being off side
8:34 has to be a bloody spot on analogy 👌😂😂
dont bring past results into the var debate, if var was around in 66 England wouldn't of been world champions.
Spot on! corruptgland still lives
@user-tn8uu2cu8g Yeah, um Dave, looking for an angle on this one. Mm hmmm, yeah, it looks like we got a false prophet here, just show me the reverse angle there, yeah, no doubt in my mind Rob, but you'd better take a look yourself, cos I'm not calling that, no f*cking chance!
Good process lads!
Now get the lines out! 🤪
Did you know that if VAR had existed Manchester United wouldn’t have ended our 49 game unbeaten run.
When I first saw Mudryk go down I instantly thought it was a dive, guess the dramatic rolling around made it less believable
Only way to sort out all this mess is for supporters to stop going to watch football and have empty stadiums. This is getting beyond control.
As an Ukrainian, Italy played much better, but no to even go check VAR it was ....
VAR should be out of the country
Sport* this instance didn't happen in our country
Deport it.
And Prem should be punished for Cheating and cooking books
We don't care
So shut up complaining about it
What happened to the cameras that used to follow the ball down the line? Then there's always a perfect angle on the ball?
VAR is good, train the refs better!!!!
It wasn't a stonewall penalty Mark. Mudryk left his leg in a little, waited for contact. Could it have been given? Yep. But I can also see why it wasnt. Not a VAR issue.
Not a pen imo
Mate he kicked him, how can kicking a player not be a foul, he kicked him and didn’t get the ball in the box
@@lukebashian5591he's already falling before he gets touched. He dived
@@lukebashian5591kicked him??? Yeah but softly then he dived like a Chicken..So now football isn't contact anymore?? Lol
@@lukebashian5591very minimal contact and dived like salmon before he was even touched.
@@draz3901 Lies. Funny how there’s a frame where the contact has already been made yet Mudryk’s standing foot is still planted. It’s almost like he tucked his standing foot in as he was taken out to protect his standing leg being snapped.
Why do people insist on straight up f*cking gaslighting people when the evidence is on camera. Clown world.
Corruption Plain and Simple.
Mudryk dived! Why are you guys so blind??? Jesus!
He knows that..He's just using this VAR cOnTrOvErSy Bandwagon for clicks and views..It's evident
Why are you lying, gaslighting and projecting? Jesus can’t save you.
anything to create headlines
If VAR was available, then Rooney dive to earn penalty that ended Arsenal invisible at 49 wouldn't have happened.
IT’S NOT VAR, it’s the humans behind VAR
Yea mark ! What is the use of VAR if steal there is a mistake in football should be switched of
It’s not often that I agree with you Mark, but on this topic I couldn’t agree more! I never liked VAR since it’s inception, it takes away from football, everything that generations of fans have loved for decades about the game, the injustices, the feeling of getting one over your biggest rival, etc, gone! Get rid of VAR and do it sooner rather than later!
Speaking sense sir. The only thing that should have been introduced since the pass back rule, was goal line technology. Nothing else required for the betterment of the sport.
They've got to get the historically big teams in the Euros to make more money.
Var is not the problem but the individuals using the technology are the problem.
How'd they not give that pen agaisnt Maguire as well. 😂😂
They ABSOLUTELY need to find VARs who both know the game AND KNOW HOW TO PROPERLY USE TECHNOLOGY. Have a ref in the room who can't touch a mouse and keyboard and someone separate drawing the lines know what he's doing, switching cameras quickly, competently drawing lines, and having some common sense.
Think we should do it like nba, the manager can have 3 var calls meaning if he really thinks the team has been messed up he can use one of his calls. This also makes management more exciting and impactful
I would:
1. Allow each team one challenge per half - like tennis.
2. If they win the challenge. They retain it for the remaining half.
3. Offside and ref assistance when requested only.
4. It should only be used minimally - refs decisions go.
IT IS the VAR that is ruining football because as a sports man playing is the emotion ,you score a goal and you have to wait for 5mins to Check for a VAR check before celebrating, that's not what football was supposed to be like ,it isn't natural now . Also this has made the game go so soft ,you are getting pens in almost every match now ,sometimes multiple ,previously it used to be much much rare ,it's as if football has gone off . Additionally the increased amount of injuries ... football isn't about the sport ,the emotion any longer It is about how much money can be made off of it . Players like maguire / Antony/ mudryk being bought for humongous fee's but without proving much before . Clubs like Chelsea literally buying 15 and 16year olds for huge fee's like 30 and 40mil when they SHOULD BE GOING TO SCHOOL ,saying this as a ,chslea fan.
Totally agree with you Mark 👍 💯 👏 👌 🙌
it's not like penalty was overturned by VAR how is it going to fix anything
Infantino was not going to allow Italy to miss out again.
Corruption and Italy in the same sentence? Come on mark no chance 😂
@@Hit1889 hopefully city and Chelsea are next 💯
The problem is the tech and the individuals who are using the tech remember the World Cup no one complained about var it was fair and it had better tech
@user-tn8uu2cu8g m8 My comment had nothing to do with religion
I think VAR should go back to what it was intended to do. It was brought in to highlight things that the ref didn’t see, like off the ball incidents or balls going over the line. It’s not for measuring a millimetre on the foot of a player and calling him offside
Exactly!
No it doesn't. Keep VAR, bin the officials and blurry handball rules.
So rather than try and improve VAR and the people who run it, we should remove it because there's less accountability for the referee? I genuinely can't believe he used the fact that Arsenal not going unbeaten if VAR was used, as an example of why we shouldn't have it. Literally advocating for getting wrong decisions because its easier to digest and fits the narrative of a teams footballing achievements. Isn't this the same issue that you have with referees in big games? Scared to give big decisions like in the Ukraine game yesterday because maybe a massive footballing nation doesn't make it to the euros.
5:56 definitely agree with this, I imagine it like a jury in a courtroom: ensure they have no horse in the race, and that they are adequately familiar with what's going on in the game.
VAR as a whole has to be practiced behind the scenes. Training should involve rewatching games as if they’re live. That way refs can do a proper job with no pressure and improve. This should be done by all referees BEFORE putting it into practice live.
If VAR had existed Manu would have had 3 players sent off at OT when Arsenal lost the invincible record. But I hear what you’re saying though 😂. Look fans need to vote with their feet, enough with the dictatorship of the governing body
I though you didn't care about the international break
'Prattism' has got to be included in the next edition of the Webster's Dictionary.
Arsenal would have just scored in a different way later in the game.
Nice dig in what is an otherwise great post.
@user-tn8uu2cu8g You misspelled “Bergkamp”.
Ange was right - human error is inherent in football and on field errors are preferable to VAR which causes excessive delays, denies joyous goals and comes to bad decisions as it is still a human judgment based system. We have just taken the error from the field to a high tech room which pretends to be infallible when its not but which compounds fan unhappiness. We have to accept that on field decisions will be error prone but that VAR doesn't improve this. Goal line tech is good as is the semi-automatic offside tech, But VAR relies too much on humans. The other option is to follow cricket and only allow VAR only when the on-field ref requests it and where each team can challenge the on field ref twice per match.
Ukraine, not the Ukraine Mark. Soverign state vs area of the USSR small but big deal.
VAR isnt the problem its the people using it, that being said nothing is being done about the constant mistakes being made by the on field and off field decisions and when a manager comes out and criticises it they are thrown under the bus and hit by everything possible. It's just become a tool for the referees to stay centre of attention and make whatever decisions they want and whichever body is in charge of the referees during the game will back them no matter what
Saying it's corrupt by saying it's not corrupt. Gotcha mate.
The word "disgrace" has lost all meaning these days.
Var is there to correct serious errors only. The real problem is that this standard has been lost and people like mark now think it’s there to re-referee matches.
I think VAR should be used like in Cricket or Tennis where the teams can have 3 reviews in a half which are not used up when the original call was wrong.
Scrap VAR- Scrap offside- keep , not only goal line technology, but line technology from cornerflag to cornerflag- scrap linesmen- get two offisiells on the pitch.
They must've got confused and thought Italy were Man City for a second...
8:34 this is why WE LOVE YOU, Mark
Specialists would eventually be corrupted by outside influences, all expenses paid trips to Dubai or Abu Dhabi or some off-the-cuff comment by a top level UEFA official, just for examples. AI is the future of officiating!
Inconsistency is the word i would use to describe var
I don't think VAR is going anywhere, so in my opinion, both teams should get 1 appeal each to use VAR in a game, just like in cricket
In handball there are two referees, one "inside" who stands behind the end line and the "outside" who looks at the game from behind the attack. The one who's half of the pitch it is, is the main decision maker on that half. Throw away the VAR, add one ref, use the diode technology that already exists with offside and goal/pitch line technology. BINGO
Mark all we need is goal line technology, automation of offside and if we need to use VAR it should be for Pen's only and nothing else
Look, they won the Eurovision Song Contest before a song was sung. Enough is enough.
I’m starting to get the feeling Mark doesn’t like VAR….
I totally agree!!!
3:06 Mark realizes sometimes calls would have been different with VAR and asks to get put back into the matrix.
Here's a fact: there's no way to determine perfectly and objectively. In some interpretations, Arsenal would have been invincible, in some they wouldn't. We can try our best, but that doesn't mean VAR will be unquestionable.
Just make it like the old Sky Sports feature where they had fans commentating on the teams. 1 fan from each team in the VAR box, televise it. Would be more entertaining than the football.
Completely agree mark