Dimarzio Crunchlab and Liquifire vs Kiesel Lithium Shootout!
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- Опубліковано 20 гру 2017
- Dimarzio Crunchlab and Liquifire vs. Kiesel Lithium pickup shootout! I wired up my Sterling JP100D for push pull knobs for series and parallel wiring with the pickups! It makes for an incredibly versatile combination and excited to demonstrate and discuss with you!
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really enjoyed this comparison. Thank you so much for showing their tones when in parallel too! I really appreciate it because I regularly install push/pull pots in my guitars
Samuel Elgueta thanks! This was a lot of fun to make! Getting an Ibanez az model in soon and am excited to go through the pickup sounds
Thank You for making this video! Super helpful as i'm looking at comparing almost this exact setups
Another great video. I have not played the liquifire, but I have the crunch lab bridge with a gravity storm neck in an ash body RG that sounds great. I was expecting not to like the Lithiums because I guess I assumed they were designed for heavy down tuned guitars. This video was a big help.
What a fantastic shootout.
Props.
Thanks! Appreciate it!
Overall i hear the Lithiums as more scratchy/oldschool and the DMZ more modern and they glue the notes together better in chords (which i like in a pickup). Could be that the Kiesels sounded more open in those special wirings, but overall i think i like the DiMarzios better - they sound more musical to me (because scratchiness and grindiness are not very musical to my ears. :)
johann jensson haha fair enough! Haha I'm always chasing the 2 and 4 position strat pickup sounds.
The Kiesels are great; more present and complex but nice!!! "I liked them so much Im gonna buy the whole guitar!" Haha. Getting a Vader 6 Multiscale custom made soon!
I felt like the K sounded smoother. I like em. more evidence that a keisel may be in my future...thanks!!!!
Lithium sounds ok, but instantly falls short compared to the Dimarzio set. Crunchlab is more cutting and aggressive, while Liquifire is, well, more fluid and well balanced as suggested by its name. No wonder this set is pretty much the standard for high gain music nowadays.
The DiMarzio's are more "balls to the wall" for distortion and rock tones to my ears, like a Les Paul three HB set-up, but I can see where the Kiesel/Carvin's give you a broader, brighter, articulation and choice of tones for pop rock and things like Tom Petty music (I have a totally tricked out 2003 Carvin DC-145 I ordered new with a bridge M22SD, middle AP11, sweeter defined neck M22J (?), with 2 HB coil splits and seven way switching on a Strat style pup switch, that is just amazing, esp. paired with their Carvin Nomad or Belair vintage tube series amps). Different strokes for different folks, no doubt. I would say have two guitars with both set-ups for variety as needed, and let the gig, particular song or set, or recording flow accordingly to how you are vibing/required in a particular gig or sound location, etc. Plus, you have a back up guitar if needed. Do what you want and your budget allows I would say. No wrong or right necessarily, and I appreciate your good video and how you express your opinions and welcome other opinions. Great job! Nice playing! Those Lithiums do sound pretty good, but DiMarzio is an industry leader no doubt also. I may go for a lithium set down the road. Convincing video that they are nice for pop-rock, my proclivity.
Dude, I have 3 EBMM Majesties, including a Fuschia Sparkle and a NOMAC Majesty. This video makes me want to buy this guitar RIGHT NOW!!
:O
Fernando Ufret haha it's a great guitar! Tho I'm currently turning my gaze onto a legit MM, Kiesel, or Tom Anderson. You have a great collection of sweetness bud!!
A Nomac? Wow!
A NOMAC? Well ain't that a beauty
I think the Lithium pickups sounded rounder, more harmonic. Then again I have a set of those in my Vanquish KV6 so I may be slightly biased lol.
Great comparison man!
I agree that the Liquifire sounds boxy. Crunchlab in the bridge and Lithium in the neck for me.
I felt like the Kiesel s had more clarity and bite to em than the dimarzio s did
nice video!
Sick shredding man. How long have you been playing? Also, I’m not sure if you’ve addressed it, but where did you get that beautiful guitar?
I know I'm 3 years late, but thanks! At that point I had been playing for 13 years. I should be so much better lol. I got the guitar from Reverb as well
Great video and awesome melodic playing. It is interesting that you state the Lithiums are your favorite pickup of all time. I had a set in my 2016 Kiesel CT6 and I was not fond of them at all. They seemed so thin and lifeless to my ears. They were very articulate, but that was all I liked about them. I love the Dimarzio JP Illuminators in my Majesty Artisan. They do everything well to my ears, but I also love Gibson 490s, which many people do not care for. That is the great thing about music/tone, it is subjective and there is something for everyone. keep the awesome vids coming. Still waiting on the fret wrap vid. I see you are using one in this vid.
hehe yeah! To be honest, my favorite anything tends to shift frequently. I just keep coming across awesome stuff! I come from a background that LOVES Tele middle position and Strat 2 and 4 position. That's my ideal guitar tone, so it would make sense that the thinner pickup is the one I prefer. It keeps the jangle better and if I can get that jangle, I can make whatever humbucker sound work for my play style haha And yes! I am enjoying the fret wrap, its a little awkward on this headstock, but that video will be one of the first of the new year! I wanna make sure I really do well with everything its meant to be used for vs what I'm using it for and etc.. So stay tuned bud!
The Dimarzios have beautiful round tone. No wonder they've become such a high regarded combo. the Kiesels in contrast sounded a bit on the 'brash' side to my ears.
DUDE - whats ur opinion re Kiesel Beryllium vs the Lithium ?
RIKARDO hey! I actually haven’t had an opportunity to use those pickups! Sorry! I love the lithium’s tho!
i wish i could make my lithiums sound as great as you did!!
michael rozett thanks bud! I know they’re thinner pickups, so I added a bit more bass and mids than normal. Give that a try! Let me know if it helps
@@ProducerDudes the lithium pickups were made with keeping guitar woods in mind. They were made from a flat sound so that you could hear the woods. If I were to put hose in my ibanez s 521 they would sound very terrible that's why I just use my stock infinity pups for it. Ps I own a kiesel dc600 and my only issue is the lithiums change so much with different woods. Its either make or break in my opinion.
@@jeffshaw3126 you are totally right! I put them in the bridge of a hss strat and it was not a friendly sound Haha
I the demo song you had the volume way down for he lithium Why
on my studio monitors they're a little down. I checked on my phone and the headphone speaker (left) was waaaay quieter than the bottom speaker. headphones they're almost equal. The DMZ set have waaaay more body to them. I got them hitting the same dB in the mix. In hindsight I would've just mixed them the same volume regardless of dB. Even so, a lot of people prefer the lithiums in this shootout, which to me just shows how great they sound since people tend to think louder sounds better. It was an early video maker mistake. Sorry if that's frustrating. If you have studio monitors or headphones, they're much more present than on phone speakers.
@@ProducerDudes Would you day they have a warm Alnico 5 type pick attack for peddle tones ? or more like ceramic
The lithium’s are def high output, but once you coil split them they get super clean. Like a more aggressive suhr SSH set. Not a lot of lows. Not as aggressive as a set of SD Alpha Omegas
Lithiums seemed punchier with more complex harmonics. Thanks for the demo.
The lithiums sound ok, but I felt like they weren't quite fat enough to stand against the dimarzios!
I actually sold a MM Petrucci 7 because I hated the flat sounding DiMarzios so much. In retrospect, should have just switched out the pickups. Everything else about that guitar was stellar. In this particular shootout, the Kiesels sound much more lively, more note definition, punch, clarity. I have a Vader VM7 (with the Lithiums) on order being built at Kiesel right now. Can't wait.
That’s awesome! After I get a few key guitars a few customs are on my list including a Vader!
I got my na6x black limba wood with the acoustic saddle set up
Dimarzio!!
KIESEL FTW!!
Why did you pan the tracks?
Zynos GD you can hear them separately and then together so you have a direct comparison. How one would fit in a mix and if someone has a darker pickup what a good complementary pickup could be.
Even if both sound great (and many times pretty close) I find that the di marzio have more personality and better definition.
Today, I totally agree with you, though I really loved the Lithiums at the time. Funny how things change over the years
the lithium pups would sound better in a dark, heavy ass set neck type thing - like a LP custom, the dimarzio's are too fat for that style of guitar.
the Dimarzios sound a bit sterile to me, the Lithiums have far more mojo.
So what you are saying is I need them both lol
I was very interested in the content of this demo but by the end all I could think about was stabbing you in the eye with your trem arm. Wanted to hear how the sound decayed after the chords but you kept wammying the Dimarzios. Why, just WHY?!
wellprobablynotnow haha it's how u play with a trem. Regardless, decay with a trem system would've decayed much more quickly than a stop tail or thru body. Sorry if it bummed you out man! Hopefully someone else has compared the pickups and you you can hear it then!
The Dimarzios sound better in my opinion.
Dimarzio are darker and I like dark. They also seem to hide all kinds of sins in the mids, for example on guitars with unpleasant eq bumps and dips or poor quality woods
The Kiesel are definitely better
Dirty rhythm is too loud. The solos should be much clearer to assess.
Dimarzio Crunch Lab and Liquifire were the clear winners. And if everything is not so clear on Distortion, then Dimarzio is much better on a clean sound. But Kiesel on a pure sound sounds very simple and not interesting
Haha, yeah. Its funny how opinions change. I'd probably prefer those as well now. The Lithiums were the first humbucker set that could do a really janggly 2 and 4 position without a middle pickup. Now I use a strat with Cruisers in the neck and middle and an Air Norton in the bridge. Really happy with my sounds
Dimarzios are more open and well balanced.