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    Episode 726 - Cruising feat. Lauren Oyler (4/24/23)
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    Art/Animation by Emily Halaka @emilyhalaka
    We’re joined by author Lauren Oyler to discuss her new Harper’s article about her experience going on a cruise centered around Gwyneth Paltrow’s GOOP brand. We discuss performative crying, serial killer branded work-outs, vagina-themed everything, and selling self-actualization. Then, we catch up on an eventful few days in the media, with Musk’s Twitter checkpocalypse, and Tucker & Don Lemon getting the axe at Fox & CNN respectively.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 179

  • @RIP_Greedo
    @RIP_Greedo Рік тому +40

    Get Don Lemon on the pod

  • @herpderp728
    @herpderp728 Рік тому +15

    chapo deadass always releases their shit in the middle of the night lol

    • @Mannydamon
      @Mannydamon Рік тому +2

      Especially when we are talking about Gwyneth Paltrow

  • @DiarrheaBubbles
    @DiarrheaBubbles Рік тому +17

    looks like I'm the first gay man in the comments tonight, boys.

    • @garrgravarr
      @garrgravarr Рік тому +1

      it's gay actor Michael Douglas posting under a pseudonym - we are so blessed

  • @jaks2478
    @jaks2478 Рік тому +17

    Goop journalist named Oyler 💯

  • @communisttravisscott4178
    @communisttravisscott4178 Рік тому +9

    I like this guest, she seems like she would be fun to pop bars with

  • @hyperionman420
    @hyperionman420 Рік тому +12

    Matt Christman coming in at 46:53 good time held it in pretty well high up in the record but can do better coming off of finkelstein this season 8.5/10

    • @GayTier1Operator
      @GayTier1Operator Рік тому

      matt is hilariously absent minded on these because he’s scrolling his phone lol

  • @Gam1ne
    @Gam1ne Рік тому +16

    chapo gay house more like... hah, try that on for size fellas

  • @augustgurtisen
    @augustgurtisen Рік тому +23

    You know it's a banger episode when 90% of the comments are complaining about it

    • @rodrigoroa6753
      @rodrigoroa6753 Рік тому +4

      it’s fun but dopey, the perfect episode to listen to while i do the dishes.

    • @justcommenting4981
      @justcommenting4981 Рік тому +3

      ​@@rodrigoroa6753 feminism. Hell yea dude.

    • @rodrigoroa6753
      @rodrigoroa6753 Рік тому +4

      @@justcommenting4981 it’s a dirty job but someone has to do it

    • @ronmustachio5329
      @ronmustachio5329 Рік тому +3

      Is it feminism when you live with your mom?

    • @rodrigoroa6753
      @rodrigoroa6753 Рік тому +4

      @@ronmustachio5329 of course, it’s empowering, get on the goop.

  • @NipponStiqqyPaint
    @NipponStiqqyPaint Рік тому +7

    No Grills allowed in this comment clubhouse!

  • @arempy5836
    @arempy5836 Рік тому +62

    I don't know how you can listen to hours of Matt and Felix and still be like "God, this woman's voice is so annoying".

    • @Gum_Cuzzler
      @Gum_Cuzzler Рік тому +1

      I sound exactly like Felix and I have no idea what you’re talking about

    • @mdgraller
      @mdgraller Рік тому +2

      She oscillates between bored, too-cool detached New Yorker and hysterical librarian

    • @agristina11
      @agristina11 Рік тому +2

      Am I fucked up for liking her voice?

    • @jboudon11
      @jboudon11 Рік тому +1

      @@agristina11 nope also a fan

    • @RayLRhodes
      @RayLRhodes Рік тому

      It's not just the voice, but the content. Read the Harper's piece and you'll see what I mean.

  • @delusionnnnn
    @delusionnnnn Рік тому +3

    RE: that interview segment with Paltrow. I cannot think of having a life so devoid of interests that would make Gwyneth Paltrow's daily routine of "eating Paleo", "detoxifying" and "an hour of movement" remotely relevant to my existence.

  • @stefanoalves8862
    @stefanoalves8862 Рік тому +6

    People being pissy with this episode when it has this beautiful gem at 53:00

    • @Sadiq01
      @Sadiq01 Рік тому +1

      how is he so wise?

    • @fancykarlmarx
      @fancykarlmarx Рік тому

      That is beautiful and I missed it because I don’t like girls I guess

  • @steinthor
    @steinthor Рік тому +6

    shidding and pishing and farding and swedding

  • @jaystephens2759
    @jaystephens2759 Рік тому +10

    I'm gooping out ova heah

  • @justcommenting4981
    @justcommenting4981 Рік тому +4

    I'm gay and gooped and crying now. Thanks Gwxn

  • @beebgegegeg-xr3cm
    @beebgegegeg-xr3cm Рік тому +4

    Goop Vibes

  • @Manifesto345
    @Manifesto345 Рік тому +3

    I only know Oyler through her (admittedly funny) hatchet-job of that book by Jia Tolentino in the LRB. Apparently her book Fake Accounts got panned because it’s just a roman à clef about her actual life in Berlin lol. I don’t mind her on this ep but I can’t imagine she’ll be invited back. Her Twitter also gives off weird vibes

  • @endoplasmicreticulum8777
    @endoplasmicreticulum8777 Рік тому +4

    tfw you could just listen to the first 15 minutes or skip around and decide if you don't wanna listen to it. 726 episodes like fucks sake your not gonna like every single one of them, it ain't that deep people.

  • @skeletorpfunk6342
    @skeletorpfunk6342 Рік тому +1

    “Don lemon has hot guy privilege” is one of the craziest things I’ve ever heard in my life

  • @quadabyte8933
    @quadabyte8933 Рік тому +16

    Certified goop moment.
    Look not to be mean to her, but why did you have a guest on to talk about her article about goop cruise while she said at the beginning that her article ended up having not much to say about goop cruise. She was fine, but chapo boys obviously wanted something different, and you could tell Lauren had no idea how to give them that. It sounded like she felt her article was a disappointment to her, like even she was upset about the limited goop info.
    Also I can't tell if Felix was doing a bit about yoga being mainstream because of Gwyneth, like she really didn't make it mainstream...

    • @Nothing-pb8hu
      @Nothing-pb8hu Рік тому

      He seemed a bit contradictory like he started by saying she made it more mainstream then later said it was already a thing in the 80s or whatever

    • @lucindabreeding
      @lucindabreeding Рік тому +3

      I have NO IDEA why CTH would have a guest on to talk about the failures of lazy late-stage capitalism! /s
      I mean, the celebrity cruise industry is just a different wrapper on the same old product (easy excursions, middling food in huge quantities and booze for the creaky petite bourgeoisie.)
      Oyler clearly observed how little the industry does to deliver on its own marketing, and how its customers are either too elderly or too tired to care. This is absolutely plum for a Marxist takedown. If you're into that sort of thing.

    • @GayTier1Operator
      @GayTier1Operator Рік тому +1

      i think she has the right ironic attitude for chapo personally and liked her takes aside from that about brand building. y’all just seem pissy

  • @robjenkins494
    @robjenkins494 Рік тому +5

    Love when chapo addresses these pop culture issues just outside of their usual purview

  • @cia4U9525
    @cia4U9525 Рік тому +17

    Terrible episode, everyone phoned it in, the show hasn't been good for years, it's over.
    See you guys for the next one!

  • @mdgraller
    @mdgraller Рік тому +1

    50:50 the moment I realized that "Ron of Japan" is too obscurely Chicago to be a relevant joke

  • @thesurfacelevelgamer
    @thesurfacelevelgamer Рік тому +3

    I love hearing stories of people on boats.
    Too bad that these cruise ships strip away the lil' bit of culture exchange that regular tourism has left

  • @arelbarosa8779
    @arelbarosa8779 Рік тому +4

    It's August! I got Rip van Winkled!

    • @arelbarosa8779
      @arelbarosa8779 Рік тому

      All the goop needed to be stored in the hold for ballast at the last minute. Classic problem.

  • @blackdog9698919
    @blackdog9698919 Рік тому +4

    Man, being a woman sucks.

  • @gloobark
    @gloobark Рік тому +2

    46:53 finally chimes in

  • @hohohaha999
    @hohohaha999 Рік тому +2

    Ads will just manifest if you exercise positive branding practice

    • @spacewolfRIFF
      @spacewolfRIFF Рік тому

      like Ani DiFranco or Anthony Davis?
      #ads

  • @deathmagneto-soy
    @deathmagneto-soy Рік тому +4

    August already?
    🤔
    Damn

  • @MrLeafeater
    @MrLeafeater Рік тому +2

    We were making fun of yoga in central PA ( dead-center in the middle of the basket of deplorables), in the 1970s. Madonna wasn't even a thing yet, but yoga was already funny.

    • @emmy8526
      @emmy8526 Рік тому +1

      Also the Beatles and transcendental meditation in the 1960s

  • @Wilbo23
    @Wilbo23 Рік тому +1

    These are the real goop hours....

  • @bunyipz2040
    @bunyipz2040 Рік тому +3

    Will is such a goop

  • @mdgraller
    @mdgraller Рік тому +2

    7:05 woof

  • @GrimReader
    @GrimReader Рік тому +11

    Chapo comments are the best nothing wrong with the episode but go ahead prove the boys right about being called hogs

  • @lmackenzie9198
    @lmackenzie9198 2 місяці тому

    This ep. came up in a rotation on Spotify, and I came here to see if anyone else found the guest disinterested and honestly a little self important

  • @JonTeriini
    @JonTeriini Рік тому

    hilarious & divine

  • @KarmaPaym3ntPlan
    @KarmaPaym3ntPlan Рік тому +2

    49:58 💀

  • @saltoftheegg
    @saltoftheegg Рік тому +3

    Wowwwwww this is really the whole episode isn't it

  • @marcusianparrish
    @marcusianparrish Рік тому +2

    AUGUST 24th

  • @adriandavies8097
    @adriandavies8097 Рік тому +2

    This was fantastic, one of the future classics

  • @agristina11
    @agristina11 Рік тому

    Felix was that kind of guy…

  • @julymagnus493
    @julymagnus493 Рік тому +7

    30 minutes about Gwenyth Paltrow and some product or treatment she's selling? Is this Chapo Trap House?

    • @deathmagneto-soy
      @deathmagneto-soy Рік тому +2

      We're learning all about jade vagina eggs, folks.

    • @Mannydamon
      @Mannydamon Рік тому

      I have to admit: Goop Cruise bit the first 6 mins is very interesting.

    • @emmy8526
      @emmy8526 Рік тому

      This stuff was amply covered over ten years ago. But I guess the old fart sexual harassment enthusiasts at Harper’s Magazine have only just heard about it.

  • @krakowdream
    @krakowdream Рік тому +11

    She's self aware enough to know how she comes off, but in that self awareness becomes another type of insufferable

  • @ryanwbourquin
    @ryanwbourquin Рік тому +1

    Madonna brought yoga back in 1998/99….nice try Gwenyth.

  • @cyberspace667
    @cyberspace667 Рік тому +7

    This chick seems cool

  • @nicolev2028
    @nicolev2028 Рік тому +1

    Some of y’all ain’t interested in listening to good authors who had a character named Felix in their book

  • @foehammer5047
    @foehammer5047 Рік тому +1

    They seem to miss the point of Goop completely. It exists to give people a sense of achievement. The way everything is phrased reflects this; crying and maturation are achievements in the world of Goop

    • @robjenkins494
      @robjenkins494 Рік тому

      I think Felix touched on this "gamified difficulty"

    • @emmy8526
      @emmy8526 Рік тому

      It’s also a tax dodge. The first years, Paltrow and her partner gave themselves loans out of the company, which then somehow allows them to declare a loss for the year. Recently, Goop was $200K behind on sales tax payments in NY. Things that might have been interesting to talk about re: celebrity grifts on this episode.

  • @colinwritesthings7445
    @colinwritesthings7445 Рік тому +27

    Chapo has a female guest, discussing femme coded topic and the comments are reliably full of dudes complaining about it being boring or about the lady's voice.

    • @Mark-jr6ld
      @Mark-jr6ld Рік тому

      I don't mind it but Lauren has almost the same voice as Gweneth Paltrow.

    • @jaystephens2759
      @jaystephens2759 Рік тому +5

      What's wild for me is these same people will listen to Liz butcher every word with more than two syllables, but someone does her best impression of Gwyneth Paltrow for every second of the day and that's a big deal

    • @justcommenting4981
      @justcommenting4981 Рік тому

      ​@@jaystephens2759 washington
      Dee.
      C.

    • @jaystephens2759
      @jaystephens2759 Рік тому

      @@justcommenting4981 i actually think that's cute, but if she ever says a word like "acupuncture" I will headbutt my way to China

    • @Gum_Cuzzler
      @Gum_Cuzzler Рік тому +1

      I think she sounded hot

  • @deadviny
    @deadviny Рік тому

    Wrong type of cruising

  • @RP-fv1js
    @RP-fv1js Рік тому +6

    I’m 45 minutes in and the most interesting thing said is that the guest thinks young New Yorkers are very sophisticated regarding skin care.

  • @archiva5621
    @archiva5621 3 місяці тому +1

    Easily the worst Chapo episode ever.

  • @rf3471
    @rf3471 Рік тому +7

    I miss amber

    • @Gum_Cuzzler
      @Gum_Cuzzler Рік тому

      You just need to volunteer to fight alongside her in the Wagner Group and you can see her again

    • @horny4violence
      @horny4violence Рік тому

      The muslim Amber Ali?

  • @GregorySnipe
    @GregorySnipe Рік тому +5

    Chapo went from a poltics and comedy podcast, into the boring niche interests of the hosts with barely any poltics or laughs.

  • @nicolev2028
    @nicolev2028 Рік тому +1

    Sorry but her Cruise defeats david Foster Wallace’s Cruise story. Even he couldn’t handle it

    • @Wilbo23
      @Wilbo23 Рік тому

      He died from a skill issue

  • @berdyderg900
    @berdyderg900 Рік тому +8

    Bad job by the boys with this one but that guest needs to be launched into the sun, wtf

  • @jTech50
    @jTech50 Рік тому +8

    I don't want to be too mean, but I'm sorry, this guest can barely speak or communicate what the fuck they are trying to say. And she's a professional journalist? I know public speaking or speaking off the cuff is not everyone's strength, but oh my god the gulf between what I assume are her written skills and hearing her meander endlessly unable to answer basic questions about an event she covered professionally was painful. The gang had to pull teeth to get basic questions answered, and the topic is both dated and largely insignificant to any larger social trends. Genuinely painful, but I appreciate them always trying to at least have fun and salvage what they can.

    • @5508Vanderdekken
      @5508Vanderdekken Рік тому +7

      Nah it was fine. Big overreaction

    • @BigHomieGayAss1917
      @BigHomieGayAss1917 Рік тому +5

      @@5508Vanderdekken Many such cases in the comments!

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 Рік тому +4

      Which is it? Did you want her to meander about the larger social trends, or did you want her to stick to only a professional coverage of the “event”? Those are mutually exclusive requests… so what are you really upset about? 🤔

    • @jTech50
      @jTech50 Рік тому +2

      @@ultravioletiris6241 I didn't want meandering, that's what I heard. It's just my opinion on the episode. I learned nothing new about Paltrow or Goop from her statements. I also got zero rational explanation about these health guru trends/fads. It is some of the messiest commentary I've ever heard. I subjectively did not enjoy her presentation. Does that clarify things?

    • @emmy8526
      @emmy8526 Рік тому

      Sub par most guests on Chapo

  • @nothing-2-live-4
    @nothing-2-live-4 Рік тому +2

    something about this woman’s voice made me angry and simultaneously want to be scolded by my teacher.

    • @RP-fv1js
      @RP-fv1js Рік тому

      A bit of a neera tanden quality.

  • @camildumitrescu3703
    @camildumitrescu3703 Рік тому +1

    Yuck!

  • @emmy8526
    @emmy8526 Рік тому +7

    I see the Chapo requirements for women contributors are still: (1) be a non-threatening airhead; (2) you’re letting one of them touch you; (3) or your name is Naomi Klein.

    • @feydrautha012
      @feydrautha012 Рік тому +5

      Since it's definitively not option 2 or 3, it's great to see today's feminists call female journalists they don't agree with "airheads." Have you ever done anything worthwhile? Got a google scholar page or SCOPUS profile to share of your intellectual contributions?

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 Рік тому +1

      @@feydrautha012 Lol i would hope that contributions to society can be measured in more tangible ways than a freakin GooGoo scholar page. Oof 😂 . Nice way to flip intellectual gatekeeping right around to more intellectual gatekeeping.
      “No she not dumb, you dumb!”
      Genius.

    • @emmy8526
      @emmy8526 Рік тому

      @George Gordon Descending: If there’s one thing the Chapo community stands for after a decade of op-ed reading, it’s credentialism respecting. Also I wish any of those achievements had come through as she repeatedly lost confidence mid-sentence in trying to describe a cruise she went on and the article she wrote about it to intimidating luminaries Will and Felix.

  • @adammoore8991
    @adammoore8991 Рік тому +4

    shes seems to have a hard time deciding what she wants to say and sometimes she loses confidence or something in the middle of the sentence and ends up not making any sense

  • @SavagesInMyTown
    @SavagesInMyTown Рік тому +4

    i couldnt stand the guest

    • @condor237
      @condor237 Рік тому +1

      So boring

    • @TTV5
      @TTV5 Рік тому +4

      You've posted this exact comment every time Chapo has had a woman on

    • @SavagesInMyTown
      @SavagesInMyTown Рік тому

      @@TTV5 not true

    • @TTV5
      @TTV5 Рік тому +8

      @@SavagesInMyTown Yes it is. Your comment is right there, and this is the one time Chapo has had a woman on

  • @servomoore
    @servomoore Рік тому +3

    Bored and boring guest. Might as well have just gone to the beach like she went on a cruise.

  • @briangura7818
    @briangura7818 Рік тому +3

    Worst guest chapo yet - northeastern vapidity that can usually only be had around the Passover table come the holidays.

  • @ih8google
    @ih8google Рік тому +21

    There are some cringe dudes in the comments who seem to be seething at the fact a femoid is on their special boy podcast.

    • @KarmaPaym3ntPlan
      @KarmaPaym3ntPlan Рік тому +2

      What did you think of the content?

    • @ronmustachio5329
      @ronmustachio5329 Рік тому +1

      Jesus Christ, did you just find out about 4chan?

    • @Gum_Cuzzler
      @Gum_Cuzzler Рік тому +1

      Of course, this is YT

    • @ronmustachio5329
      @ronmustachio5329 Рік тому

      Meta

    • @emmy8526
      @emmy8526 Рік тому +1

      Or subscribing to the startling proposition that there are some smart, knowledgeable, expressive women they could have on (and not just the ones who are also their girlfriends)

  • @rodrigoroa6753
    @rodrigoroa6753 Рік тому +4

    i want whatever pills she’s on