Thank you!! The truck has been driving awesome. I've put many miles on the new steering shaft and while it's not the Ferrari-like steering I was hoping for, it feels pretty good. I think I'll get a little closer to that Ferrari steering when I decide to upgrade to a performance steering box... one of many projects left to do on the truck. Thanks for watching!!
@@BuildYourOwn I think the reasons you expected more precision and didn't get it are two fold. 1. You still have a rag joint. They're rubber and cloth so they have natural give to them, which will feel like vagueness. A dual u-joint shaft would have helped. 2. It's still a worm gear style steering system, which is not precise compared to modern rack & pinion. You can tighten the nut or upgrade the box but I suspect there are still limitations by design. Aside from that there are also bearings in the steering column itself that may be worn. And you have tall sidewall tires that will ride nice but not give you sports car handling.
The 84-94 Jeep Cherokee XJ steering shaft is the best upgrade for OBS....fit straight with minimum modification.....with this u eliminate the rag joint!!
Good video man I’m glad that I found your video in the instructions you gave from the manual. Because I replaced mine and I have to go around some pretty good size turns on my way to work and I can’t even turn my steering wheel the way you were turning yours. The steering is so tight after I fixed it if I move my steering wheel more than a couple of inches. My truck would probably cut a 360. I know it’s extremely hard to picture that but it’s almost like a racing steering rack or something it’s hard to explain but the best way I could explain it is for one rotation of the steering wheel. It’s like I rotated it three times. I’ve never had a vehicle do that. I’ve brought it to several mechanic shops and they just say it’s good to go.
Hey there, thanks for watching and I'm glad you found the video useful! It sounds like you've encountered quite a unique situation with your steering after the replacement. It's definitely not common for the steering to become that sensitive, and it's understandable that it would be concerning, especially when navigating turns. It's possible that there may be an issue with the alignment or another component in the steering system that's causing this over-responsiveness.
Dude great video and beautiful truck! I live in a town near Wilsonville and was thinking damn that road looks like it’s in oregon lol. Saw your video on grand tourismo and was like hmmm yep!! Thinking I have driven that road more than once ;-) we’ve got it good out here.
Thank you! I've put a lot of time into the truck and have over 60 videos (ua-cam.com/play/PLZPFVgOzDxzUNotTlw4KYrOgZebABH3Gg.html) and even did a scenic drive with it from Troutdale to Multnomah Falls (ua-cam.com/video/sPkMf29TBJA/v-deo.html). Oregon is very beautiful and the land of lifted trucks!
My 76 Chevy 3/4 ton is getting this asap. Epic talent with your video. Now can you do one on boiling water? Cause if anyone can make boiling water any easier your the guy.🤘🤣
Thank you so much lol, I really enjoy doing videos with the truck. I'm glad you found my video useful. I've got over 60 videos of the truck. You should also go over to my website and take a look at my "GMT400 Upgrades and Performance Parts Buyers Guide" www.buildpriceoption.com/gmt400-upgrades/ - Thanks for watching!
The instructions state NOT to use the factory flat spot when securing the bottom set screw and to instead file a new flat spot on the splined shaft. Did you do this, and if you did why wasn’t it addressed in your video?
My universal u joint doesn't sit snug with the set pin and locking pin. I pulled the same style steering shaft out and installed the same one you have My universal u join slides around where the old bigger bolt was. How did your fit? 2500 92" suburban
You can also adjust your steering box to take away some more of your slop. But be careful not to over tighten the screw. Only adjust (tighten) the screw a maximum of a quarter turn. Its real easy.
I just bought a 94 c1500 Suburban. I'm noticing a massive price difference in 1994 to 1995. What's the difference? They look exactly the same. Will a 95-99 fit my 1994?
@cpufreak101 yeah, I posted that comment wayyyy before I did enough digging or anything. Although, I thought I had. Plus one truck I'd looked at to compare, had modified their steering components so I was mislead on top of being somewhat uneducated, I suppose. It IS wild to see how cheap the 95 shaft is compared to the 94. Cheapest I found & ended up getting was around $250. Replaced the lower column bearing as well with the upgraded one. Not a fan though. I heard Wolfe has a nice kit though for about $100.
Cunningham Machine makes a nice u-joint style intermediate shaft. Had I known about this one, I would have gotten it. See my GMT400 Upgrades and Performance Buyers Guide. I put all this kind of information in one place so GMT400 owners (and myself) have a good resource. www.buildpriceoption.com/gmt400-upgrades/ (this page will be continually updated)
One could certainly do that. For me, this truck is about restoration when it comes to repair. For others, it's just about a fix and usually at the cheapest price. One way or the other, its all good brother.
I guarantee 50% of a worn out system slop is in the steering gearbox itself you can replace every piece in the system except the Box and you can only improve your steering slop 50% you have to do the steering gearbox, Additionally you have to get a really good Box you can't get some crappy rebuild one that's very cheap they come with slop in them
The factory steering boxes rarely wear out unless you let it get contaminated with metal from a bad pump and drive it awhile like that. A little adjustment at the sector preload about every decade is all that's needed. 250k hard miles on mine, and it's still great, I have about 1/4" of play at the rim of my steering wheel... still using a rag joint that has been replaced. In the unlikely event that you do have one wear out... rebuild the OE one yourself rather than getting an aftermarket one.... you'll be waaaaay better off in the long run. Same thing with the pump, super easy and cheap to rebuild the OE one. If a pump does go bad.... make sure you flush the steering box before hooking up the new or rebuilt pump or it wont last long, a PS filter is recommended in the return line, just because.... why not.
Dude! Great video!! Clear and informative. How's everything working out now that you've had a chance to drive it a while?
Thank you!! The truck has been driving awesome. I've put many miles on the new steering shaft and while it's not the Ferrari-like steering I was hoping for, it feels pretty good. I think I'll get a little closer to that Ferrari steering when I decide to upgrade to a performance steering box... one of many projects left to do on the truck. Thanks for watching!!
Yes great video! This steering shaft also looks like it will fit the 96 Chevy model trucks, what do you guys think?
@@vincentorona163 I think it should fit as you have an OBS Chevy truck too, but make sure to double check.
@@BuildYourOwn I think the reasons you expected more precision and didn't get it are two fold.
1. You still have a rag joint. They're rubber and cloth so they have natural give to them, which will feel like vagueness. A dual u-joint shaft would have helped.
2. It's still a worm gear style steering system, which is not precise compared to modern rack & pinion. You can tighten the nut or upgrade the box but I suspect there are still limitations by design.
Aside from that there are also bearings in the steering column itself that may be worn.
And you have tall sidewall tires that will ride nice but not give you sports car handling.
The 84-94 Jeep Cherokee XJ steering shaft is the best upgrade for OBS....fit straight with minimum modification.....with this u eliminate the rag joint!!
This actually is a big improvement. I still think I can make the steering better, but it's 100% better than what it was
Did you ever make it better? Im having a very similar issue With loose steering ive replaced the gear box and rag joint
i did the jeep cherokee shaft upgrade, no problems, and really cheap
I'm definitely going to replace mine for sure! I have an '89 Chevy C1500 2 wheel drive with the 5.0L 305 V8!!
Doesn’t fit that year supposedly
Good video man I’m glad that I found your video in the instructions you gave from the manual. Because I replaced mine and I have to go around some pretty good size turns on my way to work and I can’t even turn my steering wheel the way you were turning yours. The steering is so tight after I fixed it if I move my steering wheel more than a couple of inches. My truck would probably cut a 360. I know it’s extremely hard to picture that but it’s almost like a racing steering rack or something it’s hard to explain but the best way I could explain it is for one rotation of the steering wheel. It’s like I rotated it three times. I’ve never had a vehicle do that. I’ve brought it to several mechanic shops and they just say it’s good to go.
Hey there, thanks for watching and I'm glad you found the video useful! It sounds like you've encountered quite a unique situation with your steering after the replacement. It's definitely not common for the steering to become that sensitive, and it's understandable that it would be concerning, especially when navigating turns. It's possible that there may be an issue with the alignment or another component in the steering system that's causing this over-responsiveness.
Dude great video and beautiful truck! I live in a town near Wilsonville and was thinking damn that road looks like it’s in oregon lol. Saw your video on grand tourismo and was like hmmm yep!! Thinking I have driven that road more than once ;-) we’ve got it good out here.
Thank you! I've put a lot of time into the truck and have over 60 videos (ua-cam.com/play/PLZPFVgOzDxzUNotTlw4KYrOgZebABH3Gg.html) and even did a scenic drive with it from Troutdale to Multnomah Falls (ua-cam.com/video/sPkMf29TBJA/v-deo.html). Oregon is very beautiful and the land of lifted trucks!
My 76 Chevy 3/4 ton is getting this asap. Epic talent with your video. Now can you do one on boiling water? Cause if anyone can make boiling water any easier your the guy.🤘🤣
Thank you so much lol, I really enjoy doing videos with the truck. I'm glad you found my video useful. I've got over 60 videos of the truck. You should also go over to my website and take a look at my "GMT400 Upgrades and Performance Parts Buyers Guide" www.buildpriceoption.com/gmt400-upgrades/ - Thanks for watching!
Cunningham Machiene makes a great one! It’s a replacement and removes the Rag joint which will fail again
I just checked it out on their website, looks good. With I would have seen them before. I may contact.
I own a 98 and many gm trucks in the past the rag joint kit from rockauto and summit is lares 205 its 33 dollars
Gunna try out this one. Hope it works well. My 94 has lots of play to the steering.
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The instructions state NOT to use the factory flat spot when securing the bottom set screw and to instead file a new flat spot on the splined shaft. Did you do this, and if you did why wasn’t it addressed in your video?
My universal u joint doesn't sit snug with the set pin and locking pin. I pulled the same style steering shaft out and installed the same one you have
My universal u join slides around where the old bigger bolt was. How did your fit? 2500 92" suburban
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Is it possible to pull the borgeson shaft apart and slide the oem dust cover on? Just curious. Great video thanks!
From the looks of the wider rag joint, it probably would not fit, so I'd say no
You can also adjust your steering box to take away some more of your slop. But be careful not to over tighten the screw. Only adjust (tighten) the screw a maximum of a quarter turn. Its real easy.
My steering Collum squeak over bumps will this help?
Will that shaft fit my 1995 Impala ss?
Would you still recommend? I just ordered one. Did the hole on the column line up with the hole on the new shaft?
I would totally still recommend. Had no issues with install.
Torque specs?
how did you get the shaft to go all the way on from the bottom?
slides on the top perfect but not the bottom
I just bought a 94 c1500 Suburban. I'm noticing a massive price difference in 1994 to 1995. What's the difference? They look exactly the same. Will a 95-99 fit my 1994?
No, 1995 and up is completely different, with 1995 being an oddball transition year for many parts.
@cpufreak101 yeah, I posted that comment wayyyy before I did enough digging or anything. Although, I thought I had. Plus one truck I'd looked at to compare, had modified their steering components so I was mislead on top of being somewhat uneducated, I suppose. It IS wild to see how cheap the 95 shaft is compared to the 94. Cheapest I found & ended up getting was around $250. Replaced the lower column bearing as well with the upgraded one. Not a fan though. I heard Wolfe has a nice kit though for about $100.
@@TheRealWYNRS I think part of the reason for '95+ being cheaper is that it's a multi-piece shaft unlike in the '94 and older where it's all one piece
Can you ad a link to where you got the part from please?
I put the part# in the description. I bought the part on Amazon. You can easily search Amazon using the information I provided in the description.
@@BuildYourOwn Thank you
@@dannyhullihen966 no worries
Did you use lock tight?
No but I should
How much was this one????
You can get a rag joint replacement from rock auto for a lot less money.
Rockauto and summit have the rag joint assembly it's a lares 205 it 33 dollars
Cunningham Machine makes a nice u-joint style intermediate shaft. Had I known about this one, I would have gotten it. See my GMT400 Upgrades and Performance Buyers Guide. I put all this kind of information in one place so GMT400 owners (and myself) have a good resource. www.buildpriceoption.com/gmt400-upgrades/ (this page will be continually updated)
Are u going to change the gear box bro
I have no plans to at this time. Is that what you need to do on your truck?
Yes indeed after lift kit is put on already had the whole front end replaced an had a alignment did
I think my Allen screws were 5/32.
That and PISK providing everything else is tight
serious question. why not just replace the rag joint for $30.
One could certainly do that. For me, this truck is about restoration when it comes to repair. For others, it's just about a fix and usually at the cheapest price. One way or the other, its all good brother.
220 wow that's too much
I guarantee 50% of a worn out system slop is in the steering gearbox itself you can replace every piece in the system except the Box and you can only improve your steering slop 50% you have to do the steering gearbox, Additionally you have to get a really good Box you can't get some crappy rebuild one that's very cheap they come with slop in them
The factory steering boxes rarely wear out unless you let it get contaminated with metal from a bad pump and drive it awhile like that. A little adjustment at the sector preload about every decade is all that's needed. 250k hard miles on mine, and it's still great, I have about 1/4" of play at the rim of my steering wheel... still using a rag joint that has been replaced. In the unlikely event that you do have one wear out... rebuild the OE one yourself rather than getting an aftermarket one.... you'll be waaaaay better off in the long run. Same thing with the pump, super easy and cheap to rebuild the OE one. If a pump does go bad.... make sure you flush the steering box before hooking up the new or rebuilt pump or it wont last long, a PS filter is recommended in the return line, just because.... why not.