Jesus ain't no Myth, ain't no fairytale, and certainly ain't no legend.
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- A lot of us will say, I don't believe in God, Jesus, or Christianity, because I think it's all made up - just another myth, fairytale or legend... well Jesus weren't no Myth.
Is God real? Was Christianity just made up - invented for control, money, and power? Was the God of Christianity copied from other ancient mythical gods such as Mithras, Horus, and Dionysus? Is there any historical support to this claim? What do the scholars say?
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"Would you die for something you knew was a lie?" this line is my favorite.
@@boriscuducotrue funny how every video of someone demon possessed is fake asf and every video of black magic is fake asf too tbh why wouldn’t god help people who beg him and has cancer or poor or has some extreme disease or in some hard situation where it’s life and death lol cuz they say he loves us so much and there excuses are god meant for it to happen lol so technically he want innocent people to die and suffer sounds like bs to me
@@boriscuduco -
1) Perhaps some people would, but assuming 12 out of 12 people from different backgrounds would is a stretch.
2) Those people were accused of doing bad things. If you said you didn't, it's easy to guess you're lying, since everyone thinks you're a witch already, they might as well believe you're willing to lie.
In this case, the apostles are accused of preaching things that made the establishment uncomfortable and being agents of disruption, I'm sure leaders at that time did know that killing someone that does that isn't as practical as getting them to tell the people they were preaching to everything was a lie, otherwise you'd make them martyrs, which is exactly what happened because they weren't willing to say it was a lie, because it was not.
a bit hard to go by when we don't know if its true or not tho
I think that some of those people really believed what they preached, although it was utter nonsense of course, because they themselves were deluded. The fact that people are prepared to die for their belief is not at all the proof that their belief is right!
@@rudysimoens570 u say it like you've died before
I’ve never met an atheist who wasn’t angry or bitter or hateful. I wonder why that is?
Have you heard of Japan, Norway, Sweden and other non-christian-atheist-to-your-religion countries? They are not angry but normal people who love their friends and families. They have lowest stats of crime, divorce and abortion. Your perspective is very very narrow.
@@wandaru norway and sweden are Christian
The only time I know of that an Atheist gets upset is when religion is brought into politics that becomes intrusive in one's life. Also, the most Atheistic countries on the planet happen to be the most peaceful and year in and year out most happy countries.... also the most educated.
@@travisjazzbo3490 yes China and north Korea for example are peaceful
@@eliassius6945 It is not because 'I don't believe in a God or Gods that they are not the best countries for humanity. It is their system of dictatorship that causes this, and I am sure you know this... Religions and mindsets around them are a DIRECT CAUSE of millions and millions of deaths in the history of mankind and I am sure you know that. Heck, the Bible itself demonstrates endless stories of tribal slaughters with their God backing them including women, children, animals, etc... Except in the cases where God instructed to KEEP THE VIRGINS for yourself... Yeah... YOUR BIBLE... YOUR HORRIBLE GOD... amazing how Christians ignore all their evil in their Bible isn't it?
I can't choose to believe in something I don't think is true.
And you shouldn't pretend to believe something you don't believe is true.
@@blusheep2 Thanks.
@@Paolo8772And they say, “Be Jews or Christians and you will be guided.” Say, “Rather, the religion of Abraham, upright.” And he was not of the polytheists. (135) Say, “We believe in God and in what has been revealed to us.” It was revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them. And we belong to him Muslims (136) And if they believe in the same as you have believed, then they have been guided. And if they turn away, then they are only in discord. Then God will suffice you for them, and He is the All-Hearing. Lim (137) God’s Sabbath ۖ And who is better than God in His steadfastness? And We are His worshipers (138) Say, “Do you dispute with us about God when He is our Lord? And your Lord, and We have our works, and you have your works, and we are sincere to Him (139) Or do you say that Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes were Whether Jews or Christians. Say, “Do you know better than God?” And who is more unjust than he who conceals a testimony that he has from God? “And God is not unaware of what you do” That is a nation She is alone - for her is what she has earned, and for you is what you have earned - and you will not be asked about what they used to do (141)
True. However, you can let yourself go on the adventure of finding God, as he said: Those who seek me with all their heart, will find me. Seek truth, and you will find it.
@@faithhopelove9567 "...as he said Those who seek me with all their heart, will find me. seek truth and you will find it."
Problem is you're presupposing I believe god said that. You're quoting scripture at best which was all written by man in a different language after being spread for hundreds of years through word of mouth then before it was written and translated many times, and until a couple hundred years ago most people were illiterate. There is no evidence a god exists, including the one of many thousands of god mankind invented you just so happen to believe in, let alone having said that. It's so obviously written by men.
So there is no "True. However..." it's just true. I don't believe in god, I have no reason to believe any god existing is true, and I can't possibly believe in something I don't believe exists. No ifs, ands, buts or howevers. You're obviously triggered by that or you wouldn't have commented, and you wouldn't be triggered if what I said wasn't 100% sound. Quit the copium; it's addictive and ad for you.
These videos are gold! So grateful to have found these to be able to share with others. Hallelujah!
Glad you found them. Thank you!
If you want to continue believing in the son of a god and a virgin you better not check the claims made in this video.
Don't bother sharing them.
@@vejeke I think we can be sure that christians will not scrupulously fact check this 'feel good' video. 🤣😂
@@vejeke "If you want to continue believing in the son of a god and a virgin girl that god raped..."
There, fixed it for you.
Thanks for making these videos!
thank you for checking it out
Outstanding videos
I would also like to add that the disciple that fucked up the most was Peter (no not Judas). But even he stood so hard for Jesus that he wanted to be hung upside down on the cross because he didn’t think he was worthy enough to die the same way jesus did.
myth
@@nancykirkendall1415 is that an actual original character from the Simpsons (the one in your profile) or you edited the hair?
@@Hahshdhbcbcyoutube A long time ago there used to be a site where you can make your own Simpson character.
@@nancykirkendall1415 its an adorable website
I’m not religious...I’m saved.
Explain the difference.
Being saved means u have a personal relationship with God. Being religious is just going to church, going to Bible study, prayer meetings etc and having no connection to God@@ruthie8785
I identify as an agnostic, and I’m here to say that this was the best argument for Christianity I have ever heard. I will check Sermon on the Mount out.
Edit: to certain people in the replies, whether you’re taking part in the crusades or a reddit atheist, no one is being convinced that your spiritual beliefs are the best one. Ones religious views are very personal, and should be decided by the person themselves. The only discussion I will take part in are open-minded ones.
Jesus loves you❤
@@cananaryshut up
I was agnostic 34 years last year I did a deep naive and looked for the answers to Jesus Christ and when I read the Bible I wasn’t convinced but i prayed and that’s what changed me. I had a born again experience thing last year and my relationship is getting deeper. Pray and experience God
Ja, der finder du svaret:
Matt. Kap. 5, 6, og 7.
3) well again i dont say god doesnt exist but i do say that religion is 100% fake becauss it states unscientific things like in bible earth was created in mere days and almost all religions state that evolution is false when we have definite proof that its true so thats my answer ill be waiting for your counter argument
I feel like God brought your videos to me at a time when I needed it the most, as i've really been thinking about life, death, the afterlife and whatever created our universe, alot lately. I have felt this emptiness inside me, like I needed some answers about if God exists or not.
Me too jaja..
Same here, you got this bro! Ive come to believe in God, but everyone needs to do it for themselves. ❤
Same boat here. Doubts a real pain huh? Luckily God had blessed us with people like this guy to lead us on the right path.
God fucked me in the ass a true blessing 😊
@@123Mathzak It's great that you believe in God, but do you also believe that the Bible is the word of God? The reason I ask is because there are many who believe there is a God and that they can just serve him in the way that they think best because the differences between all these religions are just too confusing. However, the Bible shows us what God really requires of us.
The bible that claims the existence of jesus cannot be used as evidence for its own claim. Otherwise you have to acknowledge the claims of all other religious texts as proof of that gods existence as well.
the bible is a collection of books by different writers. The whole reason the gospels are in the Bible in the first place is because they are first hand accounts of people who observed Jesus during his life.
@@Zoozeemanthere are 0 first hand accounts in the bible. Do a little research.
The bible is a collection of very different books from different people written at different times thay all line up, not a book like the Quran that was written at one time by one man
@@coreylee9342 what are talking about? John and Matthew were literally His apostles
@@hanseldsilva2393 The Gospel of Matthew is often dated to around 80-90 CE, and the Gospel of John to around 90-100 CE, several decades after the events they describe. This gap in time raises questions about direct authorship. Plus there is no certainty the authors actually ever saw him.
The Gospels are written in Greek, whereas the apostles likely spoke Aramaic and were not known to be literate in Greek.
I notice how these people in the comments section are all rude and angry. And they respond with smugness and act like they know better because "muh science" Don't listen to these fools. You make great content!
And notice how they never criticize Islam or Judaism!
Thank you friend. 🙏
Yeah, don't listen to science and critical thinking. That's just the harsh reality we don't like that.
Don’t ignore them, try to talk with them in a way that doesn’t demean or put down either of you. Science isn’t something to be ignored, but embraced alongside religion. They don’t contradict one another, they complete each other. Both sides need to stop acting like they’re polar opposites.
@@MontycelA True
Can i just say how much I love the "bam!" that came with all the references 😂 love everything you do, brother! Keep it up ❤
Jesus is the hide and seek champion of the world!
Rebuttal: Modern cults. You have people who worship a cult leader and believe he can do all these things despite everyone else telling them otherwise. Doesn't matter how intelligent a cult member is, or how much evidence there is against the cult leader, anyone can become lost in life. Did Jesus have followers? Yes. Were his miracles real? Who knows. But one being true doesn't mean the other is also true.
@David19746The bible is reliable ? Historically, yes.
The bible is believable ? The bible is made up of several stories and testimonies of people who followed this faith, the purpose of the bible is to be a document that carries and promotes the beliefs of these people, and because of this it is not very reliable if you want to have information about its veracity or no, after all the authors wanted to promote their worldview in favor of their beliefs, that is, in a biased way.
So much so that many historians prefer neutral sources external to the Bible that comment on events of the period to confirm whether it was real or not, thus avoiding biased conclusions.
@David19746 "The Bible is reliable because the evidence inside of the Bible that the Bible is true proves that it is true".
Sounds like satire, lol.
Will you gain anything by persisting in ignorance? Seek wisdom and truth and it will manifest into a better life, here on Earth and beyond. Remember that your situation is not permanent. Denying God won't help because you don't know the future, but he does. Jesus makes a good case for trusting that God shall provide. Just as he feeds the birds of the trees, who have no tents or money; why won't the Lord provide for all his faithful? If a child asks his dad for a toy, will the dad give him a rock? Why think less of our heavenly Father? It's more beneficial to trust that he has a plan for us, so that we may be attentive enough to participate in that plan. The Israelites kept complaining of their tough living conditions in the desert after being rescued from slavery. They lost faith and got distracted by falsehood and ignorance. The consequence was that it took them 40 years to reach the promised land.
Faith in God is very important. He will give you a sense of peace and relief, knowing that you're in communion with the creator of the universe. Unceasingly ask him for what you truly need and for patience to wait for him to deliver. I know that he always does.
I also was virtually an atheist more than a year ago. I was contacted via divine intervention. It was an invitation to try out a different lifestyle, opposite from the one I was living. All your life you've been living as by your choices, still you aren't happy, he said. Why not try the opposite and see if it helps? Immediately the next morning I confessed my sins and got absolved by the church. I haven't been the same since!
I pray for you friend, that God may reveal himself to you, as he did for me. I also pray that you enter into the appropriate mindset so that you may be fully receptive to his call. In the name of the blessed Trinity. Amen
@@hanseldsilva2393 all you doing is all others do, which is slanging Bible parables at people. That's not good enough. The Bible hasn't sought to convince everyone that God is real. Anyone can quote scriptures. Scriptures are just literature. We need facts. Try looking up the DNA chromosome cells between a male and female. That's how you will know that Adam and Eve are not real people. Male DNA chromosome cell is XY, and female is XX. You can't get a female from the ribs of a male because the DNA chromosome cells are not the same. It's only a metaphor, not facts. "Don't fight a battle if you don't gain anything from winning."
Do your research and find out the truth for yourself, it will save you a lot of stress and disputes.
@@jimmiemorrison6782 Genuinely fair critique. The Bible is merely a bunch of words to you. So then what would be the kind of evidence that would be acceptable to? Express your earnest seeking for God in the manner you prefer and I assure that some of my brothers or sisters will provide what you need
Big bang kinda seems like an ultranova (ultra=beyond), because stars have variants like the neutron star that really aren't too different as cosmic light made of atomic fussion (and fission too I guess...). The time there's a time axis that has infinite copies of the universe is because time hypothetically is older than the big bang itself...
What's the funny part when people think that random chants are saving them by their government...?
"Authority lies when there's something that can't be spoken with"
Can you please explain it as for a general audience who doesn't know about chemistry at that level?
Make more videos!!! I love these!!!!
thank you friend... working on it!
(2 Peter 1:16)
“For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.”
Sounds like someone trying to cover their bases and establish credibility.
It also reeks of insecurity.
@@NA-vz9ko Why don’t you believe?
@@jigglypuff_foryoutube1700 Believe what? In Peter 1:16?
A little specificity would be appreciated, thanks.
@@NA-vz9ko in God/Jesus Christ
@@jigglypuff_foryoutube1700 Thank you for your clarification. Succinctly, I don't believe in God or Jesus Christ because I've never seen compelling evidence to believe.
love how he completely disregards the old testament
Even though it would build his case, considering the prophecies set forth within it, some being thousands of years older than our Lord Jesus' earthly ministry.
A lot of the Old Testament prophecies the coming of Christ => " I didn't come to abolish the Law but to fufill it" Matthew 5:17 (paraphrasing)
While using the Old Testament would build his case. This wouldn’t necessarily be convincing to someone who doesn’t believe in the Old Testament, you know?
@@WSlopeAggieAbsolutely incorrect. The Old Testament destroys the integrity of the New Testament. That is the reason Christians don't go there.
almost like Jesus is present in the New Testament or something
Honestly, when my mom told me to believe god and attend church, I didn't understand a single point to why I had to do them because I kind of knew about this idea. All Christian says they believe god and have seen god, but have they really seen god in reality? This is the question that I ask them.
Follow the evidence
Is life just what you see? Isn't a lot of it what we feel? I'm agnostic but I think this is an ignorant thought. You make decisions based on things you don't see all the time. Ever heard of biases? What makes your biases more believable than Christian ones? At least Christians offer a clear, concise worldview that has basically shaped the history of the West, for the better I'd say, since a lot of the freest countries in the world have Judeo-Christian heritages
Our human eyes cannot see God in all His glory because He is spirit. God is eternal (He lives forever) and invisible (look up 1 Timothy 1:17, Romans 1:20 and John 4:24). He does not have an earthy body that will someday pass away like you and I have.
Thank you!!! These videos are perfect for sharing with non-believers or agnostics. May the LORD bless you and your family greatly!
As a nonbeliever, I don’t find this video convincing. It’s just a bunch of warmed over apologetics, misrepresenting opposing arguments, and intellectual dishonesty. This video is not for nonbelievers. It’s for believers to keep them in the fold.
i wanna follow god, but i find a lot of the evidence hard to believe. how do ik that none of the accounts are made up?
@@treperry9393uh no it isn’t everything he said is true they’re are multiple accounts of Jesus testimonies that where eye witnesses testimonies during that time when he was alive and everything was true
@@treperry9393cause pretty much everything here is true there where multiple accounts of Jesus outside the Bible even from people who hated him
@@treperry9393Don't bother, you have it figured out. Let them stay blissful in ignorance.
Honestly I think it’s the different amount of religions there are that do it for me. Every religion fights that they are the truth so I rather just not get involved. If there is a God then I accept my fate but as it stands now, science has a higher chance of saving my mother if she got sick than god.
I actually would like to talk about this belief that science is more trustworthy. What if I said it isn't any different to religion?
@@KP-cd9ge I would say science is definitely more trustworthy due to the how experiments have to be conducted for proper results and then you have peer assessments, and it has to go through multiple levels of regulations, as well as many different forms of retesting to be considered factual.
The whole gist of it may be similar to religion but this is the reason why there is a lot more faith in science.
Like I used to have tonsillitis, if I turned to god and just idk prayed then i might’ve gotten better with hope which isn’t the best, but because of science and research I got the treatment I needed and I no longer suffer with it.
@@asthakerung3656 I actually want to go about talking about the faith we have in it. You can't verify any of this if lets say, all of it was fabricated. I mean, unless you are the scientist yourself, or have seen these real world effects with a deep understanding of them, you basically rely on others to tell you whats true and what's not. Thats also in religions too. If you don't have faith and say you can't talk to God, well there are countless others who have talked to God and experienced supernatural things, and this had been documented through the Bible. Doesn't that count for something? I am not yet a scientist, but I don't imagine you might be too...since a very small number of us actually are. But why is it then acceptable for us to say that even though we can't physically prove scientific concepts ourselves, we can trust in the fact that others have, and therefore it is true?
@@asthakerung3656 I actually want to go about talking about the faith we have in it. You can't verify any of this if lets say, all of it was fabricated. I mean, unless you are the scientist yourself, or have seen these real world effects with a deep understanding of them, you basically rely on others to tell you whats true and what's not. Thats also in religions too. If you don't have faith and say you can't talk to God, well there are countless others who have talked to God and experienced supernatural things, and this had been documented through the Bible. Doesn't that count for something? I am not yet a scientist, but I don't imagine you might be too...since a very small number of us actually are. But why is it then acceptable for us to say that even though we can't physically prove scientific concepts ourselves, we can trust in the fact that others have, and therefore it is true?
@@KP-cd9ge the faith we have in science is the fact that it has been retested numerous times and it just produces results. With God, in my opinion, no one has ever been able to prove to me that their god exists.
I can believe there is a higher power involved in the creation of the world because everything is so perfectly put into place but religion just doesn’t cut it for me because it’s just faith to me and that isn’t the most reliable source.
The things documented by people who have said they have spoken to God may or may not be true but they can’t prove it. Also there may have been either extraneous or confounding variables that may have come into place, but it wouldn’t be known because it can’t just be replicated.
That’s not to say of course it is false, just not enough evidence.
I study both science and psychology and in both you have to be able to prove why something is what it is, which is done through replication and assessments.
Faith is a large thing and very well may produce results but…I’m not sure how to put this in simpler terms, but it basically could be a demand characteristic or the placebo affect where a person who expects something to happen might think they are experiencing it and therefore says it is what it is.
I’m not saying that is what faith it but because we can’t measure all these different factors about religion it can’t be considered the truth.
Of course science isn’t 100% but it has a process that is very strict on maintaining integrity and it does produce results. Right now it is obviously still lacking a lot but I think as time goes on there will be more knowledge on why we exist, maybe it might even be able to prove a religion to be true but right now it’s just yeah.
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it is hilarious, yes.
AMAZING ? HA HA HA HA
Dude I love your channel
thank you! - if you get a chance - check out the website - lot more stuff there. Peace friend.
@@imbeggar I will and no thank you for making channel like this. Keep up the good work
God bless you, amazing job
God bless you!
Yup Great bullshiting
Lochness monster and bigfoot bless you
Where are you? The world needs your powerful messages. Please make more videos. Each one is so brilliant & powerful and contains such a unique perspective that I truly believe that your messages can reach and resonate with so many people that others cannot.
yes
The smell of bullshit is powerful for sure, but then according to your book you are a useless woman so what do you know
Bible = Jewish Fairytale.
Why? They're spreading misinformation. Peter Popoff was a faith-healer scammer of the 1980s. Imagine he was never caught and some of his followers wrote that he healed people. Well is that reasonable evidence he healed people? Because this video seems to think that a handful of authors of the Bible writing of something they were convinced of is a good enough reason to believe Jesus resurrected. To me that's identical to believing Popoff's followers' writings.
Both ideas have
1. Reasonable evidence that a real human by that name existed
2. No evidence of any of the supernatural claims that human is said to have performed. (So just when we needed extremely strong evidence, it turned out we had no additional evidence at all.)
Check out Frank Turek, Hugh Ross, William Lane Craig, J Warner Wallace, Lee Strobel :)
This is honestly the most detailed explanatory video for this topic 🙌 Most other videos are inconclusive but yours is factual and gives a concrete answer to the question 💥 Bravo! 👏
amen, thank you friend. Some of our other commenters disagree. Ha!
@@imbeggar this video contained no facts whatsoever, pure assertion from start to finish, once again proving the bible using the bible. Gods have always been invented throughout history and no, they do not know exactly who wrote the bible, we have other ways of confirming historical people from the past, not just a bible. How do u know man made from naturally occurring when you have no other universe to compare it to.
@@imbeggar myth 😏
He gets litteraly everythig wrong
@@united_europe like?
This is a great video my man. I see a lot of people in the comments being hateful and whatnot but don’t let it discourage you my guy. Jesus went through a crap ton of mockery and hate but still preached the truth. And He did it with love, too. Keep up the great work and God bless you!
Thank you for this friend. I really appreciate it. Peace 💪🙏
Lol
@@caspianhall Instead of mockery, why not agree that mockery is wrong?
@@rayvaul3539 you must be a mind reader? No?
@@rayvaul3539 My man, it’s an internet troll.
Great video, incredibly well laid out, thank you. It is funny how it seems to attract so many non-believers, like moths to a bug-light. I have to admit, I love the snarky remarks from people who are far more bothered knowing they can't ever prove God doesn't exist, than we are bothered knowing we can't "prove" to them he does. It's like they have an itch on the inside of their body, one they can never scratch, and yet they keep trying, until they have worn a hole into themselves.
Couldn’t have said it better myself
As they say, there's no greater believer than a non-believer.
I don't intend to prove that god doesn't exist and I think most atheists are on the same page with me here. It's up to you to prove that god exists. And then your specific interpretation of god. Until you can do that we aren't obligated to accept that god does exist.
@@Dock284 Then that’s fine. I respect you in that way. But just don’t force it on others. It’s just fine as long as you aren’t being anti theist and you just don’t believe
@@Dock284 I'm not obligated to do anything. As others have said, I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. Or as I say, God doesn't believe in atheists. In a nutshell, it takes a huge leap of faith to discount the possibility of an intelligent creator based on all the evidence.
The biggest block I have is that there is so many contradicting religion who all believe as hard that they have the truth.
So either one is true and all other are false (unlikely) or they all contain some truth that was man made and can represent a higher truth but at different degree, with different mistakes and shortcomings. (more likely)
I think men need religion, it’s part of who we are, like a consciousness that span many generations and prevent us from falling into the same trap generation after generation. Different culture have different patterns and lead to slightly different outcomes, without religion we are lost, free agent that can’t build a society, have a family, a community.
Believing in the literal sense what the only way for a long time, but we need to transition to believing in a symbolic way to integrate differents cultures, science and the good parts of religion.
Think of it this way. There's a math problem a bunch of people are working on. Would it make more sense for all people to come somewhat close to the answer, maybe get some of the steps right but not all, or for them to all come up with completely different answers using completely different math? The similarity of answers doesn't discount the right answer. In fact it points to the validity of the correct answer.
All people are born with an instinct for truth. Which is why people hold similar morals to Christianity. Because they sense what is good and true and form their religions around that. Their only mistake is how they go about achieving that goodness and truth, because they desire good things without having to bow to the one who gives them good things, and without having to admit their own depravity.
Just by one moment think about what you are saying. Now just for a second moment think about what you said taking consideration if religion was never created by humans in the first place. Yup you got it you are deluding yourself on purpose because you want to feel a certain way you are deluding yourself with illogical and unproven information and ignoring proven facts just so you can feel the way you want to feel…a safe delusion that appeases your desires you are no different from the flat earthers their arguments are precisely like yours they deluded themselves, use distorted arguments that are not proof at all to their claims and simply reject any fact thrown on their face that contraries their believe you by believing in religion are no different from them you are no different from the person who speaks with imaginary people to gain a false security sense that he isn’t alone…you’ve traded logic and freedom of thinking for self delusion, unbreakable preservation of an idea and egoistical emotion. Ancient societies of centuries ago normalized delusion, just like they also normalized that earth was the center of the universe or that semen came from the stomach or that earthquakes were gods punishment, they normalized delusion as a way of mentally weakening their populations, making them fragile, dependent and above all make them mentally prepared to act and behave, work and even fight for illogical and unproven information that way they can manipulate you however they chose so. One who does that is but a sheep an NPC who will do its leaders bidding no matter what. This technique was so effective that more than 3000 religions known to man were created all with their different gods, stories and rules to follow and you will still ignore what I’m saying in favor of the safety of your ego and desired delusion.
@@colbylippincott7173 Except religion is a belief, so this whole analogy is wrong. In math, there are many times when people get the same answer by different means; math cannot be comparable to a belief. Math has been a man-made functional concept since the Sumerians, the birthplace of society, math, and writing. Also your analogy could also be said by a person who practices Buddhism, Taoism, the Baháʼí Faith, Jainism, Confucianism, Shinto, and Zoroastrianism, and basically every other belief. There's no difference in your belief from anybody else. All people believe their religion is right, so saying that another's is not is just proselytizing.
@@chilidoghog religion is a logical solution to a problem. Problem: Why are we here instead of not here? Answer: A god created us.
It's only a "belief" because you classify it that way as a way to downplay it. Even if you are atheist and believe the universe came from nothing, or always existed, it is still using logic to explain a problem. You still have to look at all the evidence and interpret it, because you weren't there to witness the creation of the world, and you can't recreate it. That would be a "belief" according to that logic.
Math is just another way of using logic to solve a problem. You could say it is different because the outcome of math is verifiable by others, but it depends on the problem. For instance, if you were to try to calculate the relationship between the radius and circumference of a circle, there are many ways to prove the same thing and so it is verifiable. This is not the kind of math problem I'm comparing to religion. You can't tell God to do a miracle and verify that yes, that in fact happens when I tell Him what to do. And if he worked like that, I doubt anyone would want to worship such a god. He would just be another physical phenomenon.
I'm talking about unverifiable math problems. Mind you that doesn't mean there is no evidence. Only that there is no way to replicate a cause and effect.
For instance all the math that goes into explaining the Big Bang. We can't replicate that, and we didn't see it, and so we can't verify it. It doesn't mean there is no evidence. But this would also be classified as a "belief" according to your criteria. And yet the Big Bang theory is preferentially treated as fact despite that.
Also, I'm not downplaying other religions. I'm saying that many religions come close to the answer just like you would expect. And that the existence of many doesn't mean that they are all false. On the contrary it means that likely, one of them are true.
@@colbylippincott7173 If the math problem you are using to describe your analogy is unverifiable by others, then it's wrong. There are only two ways to solve the relationship between the radius and circumference of a circle as well. As for Evidence of Christianity vs the Big Bang Theory, Christianity has no evidence that any of the bibles were truth, they were just written by patriarchal figures from long ago. Keep in mind back then, many people drank wine, however the methods of this time to produce wine also carried hallucinations because of the way they let grapes slightly rot. Ancient Greek wine was nothing like the wine of today. For a period of well over a thousand years from Homer to the fall of the Roman Empire, wine is consistently referred to as a pharmakon (drug). It was routinely spiked with plants, herbs and toxins, making it unusually intoxicating, seriously mind-altering, occasionally hallucinogenic and potentially lethal. No less than 56 detailed recipes for spiked wine can be found in Book V of Dioscorides’ Materia Medica, an ancient pharmacopoeia, whose author lived at the exact same time that the Gospels themselves were being written in the first century AD. Drawing on more than ten years of research across six countries, Muraresku links the drug-fuelled rituals of Ancient Greece and the Mediterranean to the simultaneous outgrowth of Christianity in first-century Israel. The bottom-line is that it’s far from absurd - and perhaps entirely reasonable - to think that some early Greek-speaking Christians had hallucinogens in their ritual wines. This can very easily explain how all of the bibles were written, and why psychedelics were a big factor in Christianity belief. The Big bang Theory however has actual evidence and math to support it and be verifiable. Astronomers combine mathematical models with observations to develop workable theories of how the Universe came to be. The mathematical underpinnings of the Big Bang theory include Albert Einstein's general theory of relativity along with standard theories of fundamental particles. A wide range of empirical evidence strongly favors the Big Bang event, which is now essentially universally accepted. Detailed measurements of the expansion rate of the universe place the Big Bang singularity at an estimated 13.787±0.020 billion years ago, which is considered the age of the universe. This is also more than "belief" it is empirical evidence. And no, Christianity is a belief. Any religion is a belief, not a fact, it cannot be proven any religions actually exist. That's the difference between "empirical evidence" of the Big Bang Theory, and the belief of Christianity and other world religions.
This is eye opening, like all of ur vids. Thank u💯☝️
Thank you Ethan. I appreciate it. Peace.
eye opening to what? Its not proof of anything, just more preaching and asserting the supernatural with zero evidence
@@DeanWuksta where is the hate from?
@@jamesdownes3284 no hate, just annoys me that bible is clearly wrong, yet people continue to spread the lies. Does you not believing in Scientology or Islam or Hindu equate to hate? No, but u can’t prove god let alone Christian beliefs, you have no proof as yet, but telling kids they’ll go to hell, which is nonsense...wait till there’s evidence. If you can claim far fetched things like land a camera on Mars, and then demonstrate that, then I will believe, but there’s nothing but stories. Why do religious people think its hate not to believe in myths, I think the default stance should be to question everything and be aware of where your knowledge comes from. What other facts about the world do you believe with such little evidence, because at this stage there’s more evidence that Superman exists than talking snakes, the dead coming alive, universe created in a few days...you wanna question religion, go and look at Kenneth Copeland and his mates in their 40 mill private jets and tell me about Christianity, you should be ashamed to be associated with any cult.
@@DeanWuksta a very intelligently processed paragraph. I’m assuming you believe that you, and the universe as well, was all from nothing created by nothing for nothing. No purpose just existence.
I can’t find answers to questions, sometimes I want to overcome all the difficulties of life, create, live in harmony with myself.
And sometimes it’s so hard for me from social pressure that I have to find money, study, work, pay taxes, get married, have children, follow religion, improve myself. It puts a lot of pressure on me and I think life is just so boring? I'm getting tired of this. sometimes I think always where we came from, how the universe came into being, I live in a religious family, but no one would but no one can confirm the existence of God, At that time I can’t find answers in science or religion, I don’t want to become an atheist, but religion seems like a fairy tale to me. I don’t want to live like other people want to live, I don’t have such a desire, because I see religious people who blame atheists and science, but they themselves also do not lag behind them in terms of committing sin. and science doesn’t explain much either. I'm sick of all humanity...
Just by one moment think about what you are saying. Now just for a second moment think about what you said taking consideration if religion was never created by humans in the first place. Yup you got it you are deluding yourself on purpose because you want to feel a certain way you are deluding yourself with illogical and unproven information and ignoring proven facts just so you can feel the way you want to feel…a safe delusion that appeases your desires you are no different from the flat earthers their arguments are precisely like yours they deluded themselves, use distorted arguments that are not proof at all to their claims and simply reject any fact thrown on their face that contraries their believe you by believing in religion are no different from them you are no different from the person who speaks with imaginary people to gain a false security sense that he isn’t alone…you’ve traded logic and freedom of thinking for self delusion, unbreakable preservation of an idea and egoistical emotion. Ancient societies of centuries ago normalized delusion, just like they also normalized that earth was the center of the universe or that semen came from the stomach or that earthquakes were gods punishment, they normalized delusion as a way of mentally weakening their populations, making them fragile, dependent and above all make them mentally prepared to act and behave, work and even fight for illogical and unproven information that way they can manipulate you however they chose so. One who does that is but a sheep an NPC who will do its leaders bidding no matter what. This technique was so effective that more than 3000 religions known to man were created all with their different gods, stories and rules to follow and you will still ignore what I’m saying in favor of the safety of your ego and desired delusion.
I feel you.
@@Viktoria2004sh thank you
No need to feel disillusioned, just live the life you want, be patient, curious n observe n things will unfold
I have same thoughts rn.. literally asking myself a lot of questions. I might find answers to some of them, might not. Then another question pops up and everything is ruined..im trying to find the truth, yet only have more and more questions that i can't find answers to..everything is so complicated..
I don't personally believe in God but these videos are very nice and you are very open and encouraging of all people
When you say god, do you mean the biblical one? I assure you, there is a lot of "gods" out there.
It just takes 3 minutes of your time to go read the passage he mentioned. If it's obviously not true, then that shouldn't be hard to go read and rule out right? Like he said, we know truth when we see it. And sometimes it's scary to just go looking for truth genuinely, so I wish you luck.
@@PinkiePie45838283734666o9 God is capitalized, so he likely means Jesus.
@@colbylippincott7173
Atheist here. I just looked at it. What was the point in reading that again? It was a typical sermon spoken by Christians.
@@JinnyFallon not sure what to tell you. With Christianity it's pretty simple, and yet speaks to the deepest heart of what humans struggle with. There isn't some secret verse that will suddenly make everything make sense. It already makes complete sense. If you aren't in a space where you recognize the need for that help for your struggles, maybe you have some walls that need to be taken down before it really hits you. Just keep seeking, and you will find him. There's a reason you watched this video in the first place.
But don't take my word for it. I know Christians can be really poor examples, including me. Find Jesus, and only Jesus. Don't tack your assumptions or past experiences on him. Just take him for who he is and have your own faith. Read it fresh, like you have never heard of Christianity before, and go from there.
If people need some random guy on the internet to assure them that they exist, with some poorly thought out arguments, that is a really sad state of affairs for your god or gods.
If some random guy on the internet need to assure that something doesn't exist, that's such a pathetic life you guys live in
@@None-if3mo I am pretty okay with my life personally, I do feel upset at how many suffer and are in pain, which limits how much enjoyment I can really feel. I and most people like me have empathy, it is not the same for you guys. Which is why you are okay with the idea of heaven and hell. You would be quite okay living internally in bliss knowing there were people being tormented forever. Just sick.
@@andrebrown8969people that end up in hell have and had a choice. God gave us the ability to make decisions, right from wrong. You have every right to not follow God. No one is forcing you to. But just as no one can force you not to put your hand on the stove, so to can no one force you to go to hell. That was always your decision, not to get burned. That’s why as long as followers of Christ have done their part and spread the good word and planted the seed into non believers, then they’ve done their part, and it shouldn’t weigh heavy on them, at least in my opinion.
@@CptnCobblestone So fear then is the reason you believe in a god for which you have no evidence.
@@andrebrown8969 In my own opinion, and many Christians may not agree with this, but I think it’s equally terrifying to believe that there is no creator as much as there is one. The question is, is God a truly loving being? I struggled with that concept for many years. It’s what actually led me to the fact that if I had to choose between no creator and a creator, I’m going to choose a creator and have faith that he’s all good. I’m going to trust God. I no longer look at it in fear but in a way of relief, if that makes sense.
Holy shit this video is comically wrong/bad.
The Bible is jam-packed with provably mimesis from earlier gods/fictions/myths.
This video is packed with inaccuracies/misrepesentations designed to reinforce faith rather than engage honestly with historical evidence. Claiming Jesus wasn’t influenced by earlier myths like Horus or Mithras ignores the cultural syncretism of the time. Sure, some specific comparisons (e.g., virgin birth) are overblown, but dismissing the broader influence of older traditions on Christianity is laughable. The claim that "every scholar" rejects these parallels is just plain bullshit-there are legit academic debates about these influences, even if Jesus existed historically.
And let’s be real: citing the Bible as "evidence" of Jesus’ existence is circular logic. It’s a religious text, written decades after his death by people who weren’t even there. That’s not firsthand testimony-it’s propaganda for a growing faith, theologically driven.
The video also butchers historical context by fluffing non-Christian evidence. Josephus and Tacitus? Minimal and questionable at best, with clear signs of later Christian tampering.
The “disciples wouldn’t die for a lie” argument is naive too-people die for false beliefs all the time (hello, cults), beside the fact they're quite literally called "church legend" for a reason.
And let’s not even start on the nonsense about “divine truths” being obvious to everyone-it’s just an emotional appeal that falls apart under scrutiny. If the Sermon on the Mount feels profound, cool, but profound doesn’t mean divine. Ethical teachings existed long before Jesus.
This video’s real goal isn’t truth-it’s reinforcing belief by ignoring nuance and real historical complexity.
If you feel like you can argue against me, feel free. This is entry level stuff that is easily refuted.
"Jesus existed" is a great leap away from "jesus was the true son of the one true god"
He literally proceeded to say why and the descriptions transition smoothly too.
exactly!
You said religion but only talked about Christianity and mainly just Jesus. But “god” itself… there’s thousands that are believed to be true but who the hell is actually correct?
I agree with you, religion is made up, because of fear, because peope didn't understand how this universe works
It could be possible but it's not guaranteed. Assurance comes from believing in God's promises and in his son who rose from the dead. No other cultural gods guarantee salvation or eternal life.
Hebrews 11:6:"But without faith no man can please God. He that comes to God must believe that He is, and that He rewards those who seek Him."
Christians evangelize out of a desire to share God's love and the hope found in Christ with others, inviting them to experience a personal relationship with God and to find fulfillment in His purpose for their lives. faith in Christ is the way to reconciliation with God and ultimate fulfillment.
Why ignore something that's literally the most consequential choice to make?
@@hanseldsilva2393 Well maybe not salvation directly but they sure threaten you. If the islamic god's real and I believe in another one, I land in hell. If buddhism is true, then it doesn't matter anyway. Then, I can also think of my own personal god that explains just as much as any other god and he is just as real or what?
@@finnie9210 respectfully, it doesn't matter what Buddha or Muhammed thought or didn't think. If someone claims to be God, gets the death sentence for the alleged blasphemy, and then literally raises from the dead in bodily form, wouldn't it be foolish to not believe what they say? That's the case for Christianity in a nutshell. Those who learn the history have no other choice than to believe. In peace and with love, could you put forth your reasoning for your lack of faith so that my fellow Christians can get the chance to share what we know?
@@hanseldsilva2393 Many people have been killed for their beliefs, even, or especially ones that were firmly convinced of. As for your resurrection, thats simply not confirmed. It's only a claim without sufficient evidence.
This guy is fixing my life
Is truth important to you? Or just feeling comfortable, warm and fuzzy? Because if you really open-mindedly analyze the christian position, you will come to the conclusion that it cannot possibly be true. It does require some honesty, so...
@@David34981 what do you mean?
@@David34981 Can you please explain to me how nothing makes nothing then nothing happens then nothing explodes into the universe then the universe somehow creates many planets and sentient human life? Billions of times?
@@deejaythedeejayhow many planets full of life do you know of??
@@Innerpandora they were seperate i wasnt saying there were many planets with sentient human life. i was saying that there is sentient human life. i guess commas really do make a difference
did u just say just open a bible for evidence 😱😱
The Bible is a collection of ancient manuscripts spanning hundreds of years, don’t view it as a book written all at once, but multiple sources compiled. Therefore saying to open the Bible would be like saying “open the collection of Jewish/later Christian historical writing and religious writing”
@@orotewilderness2913 👎
He literally said open the bible, then seek for historic evidence out of it, but you wont do it, because you don't wanna stop pursuing earthly pleasures, you are too self centered.
Someday, we'll all be free.
@@OceantaikutsuuThat sounds like you have never read your sacred book and are just protecting.
I have read the Bible, I have studied it. There is not a single eyewitness account for the life of Jesus. The Gospels are anonymous Greek texts that are copied from each other. It's full of internal and external contradictions.
@@orotewilderness2913Open this collection of contradictory hearsay accounts for evidence.
Your appeal to intuition as a reliable way to tell what is true is exactly the problem with christians (and believers in general). You have no good epistemology. You don't really critically scrutinize these beliefs. You might just like these beliefs. But that does NOT mean they are true.
Are you denying intuition? You should trust your intuition until you have reason not to. Of course, if your intuition tells you that God exists, that doesn't mean He does, but intuition isn't a bad starting place. A persons beliefs are either true or not true regardless if they like their beliefs or not.
@@blusheep2- Intuition is not a valid pathway to truth.
A perfectly balanced coin being flipped and landing on heads 10 times in a row “intuitively” feels like it’s due to land on tails for the next flip, but the odds remain unchanged at 50/50.
People “intuitively” thought games like Go would take many many many decades for computers to master in the same way chess was because of the myriad complex moves available, and that took under two decades.
Intuition is a shortcut, like doing “back-of-the-envelope math.” It’s not the same as sitting down and doing a thorough accounting of something.
@@JustDalton Intuition isn't the only, nor the most powerful way to truth but we make many decisions... good decisions... from our intuition.
Your example about odds is not true. If you flip a coin its odds are 50/50. If you flip it again then the odds once again are 50/50 but when you add in a new variable, the series of flips, the odds are not the same. So its 1 flip times the number of options, times the number of options for each consecutive flip. So with a penny its 1x2x2x2x2x2x2... If it was a dice 1x6x6x6x6x6x6x6... If it was a protein 1x20x20x20x20x20...
The game "go" was invented 2500 years ago. Its not a new game.
Intuition is built upon experiences and knowledge and works when quick decisions need to be made. I didn't say that intuition was the end all/be all of truth but that in the absence of other measurements you should begin with your intuition "until you have reason not to."
So lots of people run around screaming... "show me the proof. I want to see the proof." Until they can give me a good reason not to believe in God, I'm going to trust my intuition.
If Internet is GOD then everything inside the Internet like websites are Creations. Just because Wikipedia told the Internet that there's GOD (Internet) and it exist doesn't mean Wikipedia is GOD.
Think about it and put into Perspective, This UA-cam site doesn't exist without Internet, but can you see internet?
Your existence itself is proof that there's a creator.
Wow! Haha you may become a good Philosipher one day if that is your goal! If it isn't I wouldn't doubt you would be a great one haha!
@@Wellthatwasfunny77They’re not going to become a great philosopher unless they learn a bit more about how to make a decent argument. Philosophy isn’t mere creativity of thought, just as Kendo isn’t merely waving sticks around and trying to hit people.
@@thefuturist8864 Haha you say learn to make a decent argument! He is more than capable of learning, we all are!
i always see the point that "our existance proves that there is a creator'' im pretty sure its been falsely proven many times
@@dominicmarshall1189mf how....
Good video. Every worldview or belief system must answer these three questions: origin, meaning, ending, and the answers must be coherent.
I wish you posted a video weekly or even monthly. As a Catholic you bring God's word His truth to the hearts and minds of many the simplicity of the videos should be taught in each Religious Education class, more than I every learned in CCD. Thank you and God bless you.
It’s great that we have only few of them because we can keep thinking About one topic without the “missing out” feeling. 😇
Never mentioned praying to Saints, or disobeying the 2nd and 3rd commandments constantly, or giving your adoration and worship to Semiramis... I mean, Mary.
Also, Jesus had brothers and sisters, she's not a deity. Catholicism is satanic. Ask God for truth.
@@Oceantaikutsuupreach brother preach
@@Oceantaikutsuu except that all the church fathers disagree with you. No, I'm not going to trust the interpretation of some guy who lived 1500 years after Jesus.
@heisenberg3082 "fathers"
Lmao
how do you not have more subs. Brilliant content.
Ha - I wish I knew. Thank you for this.
cuz 86% of the world believe in god....... what did u expect that atheist ppl will rise like neonazis try to do in the US ???? -__- PLS
@@williamgustavk2184 wdym?
@@williamgustavk2184 atheists are just trying to bang some sense into you gullible guys, btw Hitler was a Catholic, on the SS belts it read, 'in god we trust', maybe read a little bit about natural history before commenting.
@William Gustav K2 damn, all the nearly 2.38 billion Christians are being oppressed by 500 million non believers, this is totally true
"A bunch of people believed it and died for it, so it must be true. And if you look at it, it's just obvious, how can you doubt it? Go read this part of the bible that says things that aren't supernatural and are just teachings, ignore the talkign serpent, the wall of fire, some super powerful dude who makes the world in 7 days, ignore all that, focus on that part that seems like it could have happened, now you believe that may be true? okay, now all the others are true even if they are so fictional sounding they could never be true, and if you have any doubts, just trust me bro"
“Religion was born when the first con-man met the first fool”
- Mark Twain
Hi jro. Mark Twain was wrong. The first religion started when man overcame his fear of fire and used it to drive away the predators that hunted by night. Safety at last! Fire stampeded the animals we ate over high cliffs (instead of dangerously hunting them), it cooked inedible raw vegetables, increasing the food supply, and kept us warm. Fire also set fire to our fur/pelt, so the chief fire tenders wore animal skins to protect them from the sparks and heat, the start of clothing. The first religion was based on fire, because it separated man from the animal world. Fire gave man the power of gods and it must have inspired the first religion. Consider the following cliches:
1/ "Our God is a consuming fire."
2/ "Each man's work will be tested in the fire".
3/ "The Holy Spirit appeared upon their heads like cloven tongues of fire".
4/ Most Christian sects have ceremonies where candles or incense are burned.
5/ Judaism has a holy 7 branched candelabra called "the menorah".
6/ The ultimate punishment within Christianity is being burnt at the stake.
7/ Despite being very civilized, the Salvation Army's motto is nevertheless "blood and fire".
We are all children of the flame, and without fire we return to being animals. Mark Twain told a rattling good yarn, but he lacked a scientific imagination. Blaming fraudsters for religion's existence is most unfair, possibly even dishonest. Jesus told us that con-men would use his name. (Matt 7:21-23). Cheers, P.R.
"My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust?"
- C. S. Lewis
God being some magic dude argument is so stupid, it's like comparing a snake to a dog and saying "How could snakes move if they didn't have legs? So they don't exist!"
You are calling us ignorants without a single knowledge about catholic theology.
Firstly, catholics don't not see the bible as a scientific book, we believe that some of the stories of the bible are not actually real, but are based on real events that the writers of the bible misunderstood, we don't believe that the earth was created in 7 days, but that Moses and people that lived about 3500 years ago had a simpler view on life, and because of that he warped the divine inspiration he got from God to match his and his people's understanding, it doesn't mean. That nothing in the bible is true, but that the absurd events that are scientifically impossible are not infact true, but are based on true events, we do believe that the story of the creation of earth is based on somewhat of an actual truth, for an example, the story of the bible was actually right when referring to the fact that animals were created in stages, and not all at once.
Secondly, just seeing your view on Jesus Christ makes me wonder if you ever read about a SINGLE article about the history of him, the first ever mentioning about Jesus stated that he died, and rose back to life, then why won't you also believe in that? , 4 different gospels written around 25 years after Jesus's death, which describe him preforming miracles, and that the writers of them were skinned alive, being cooked, crucified upside down and many more horiffic things that happend to them, and they still stood with what they claimed they withnessed, with your claim why should i believe my great grandfather existed? I never say him and only bacuse my parents and grandparents saw him doesnt make it true? I thought we are the once to cherry pick events on the bible, but to me it looks like you choose to believe what fits your perspective on life. You ignore the fact that it is mathematically impossible for the big bang to come out of nowhere, claim life came from none life, but claims we are the crazy once.
@@Kristalman831well said
Amen. Thank you for this video. Well done. I hope many more will see this and come to believe on God 🙏🏻❤
That definitely won't be happening, this apologetic snake oil is only good for those who are looking for something to confirm their beliefs.
@@downenout8705 Theres already is enough evidences that points to the Bible being real and God being real. People just ignore the facts when it leads to the Bible being true.
@@jesuscaresaboutyou100 Ok, here's a very simple challenge to demonstrate that you are correct and I am mistaken.
Read 1 Corinthians 15: 14 and provide a single sentence containing just a mustard seed's worth of "empirical" evidence to support the biblical resurrection claim.
I am as confident as I am that the sun will rise tomorrow, this you will never do because you can't, because there is none..
All you have is a few hundred words in a collection of stories written by anonymous authors decades after the supposed event and a few sentences in some letters from a man named Paul.
I am absolutely not ignoring these "facts", I just don't find them remotely close to being sufficient "evidence", to convince me that 37.2 trillion dead and rotting eucaryotic cells magically came back to life in the Levant some two thousand years ago.
I see this as being no different from you "ignoring" the "fact" that the Quran claims that the moon was split in two, which Muslims inturn claim leads to the Quran being true.
The only reliable mechanism for differentiating between these two claims is evidence and both claims have close to none.
@@jesuscaresaboutyou100curiously it’s usually from people who doesn’t want to abandon their lifestyle for what it has been, although seeing it leads to nowhere, they rather feel comforted in lie than to go through struggles and win in truth. Rather stay in the selfishness, pride and ego than to shatter it and suffer the good suffering. But we are not to judge but to pray for them that they also surrender to the truth and love.
@@GuestingGameplays u seem to misunderstand the fact that the so called "bible" can't physicallY be proven to be historically correct
When someone has to ask that question about a guy who has been said to have been born of a virgin and a god you know his answer is going to be no.
I wonder how many Christians know that the four gospels are completely anonymous and that there really isn't a single eyewitness account of Jesus' life.
But the guy walked on water, of course he did buddy.
If you've ever read the gospels you'd know they're not anonymous, I mean John literally confirms that he's the son of Zebedee. I wanna be nice but man, when I speak to people like you I always have this feeling that the person on the other side of the screen isn't even using their brain to think but just pasting arguments that've been debunked for so long
@@InCaseYouDidntKnowIHaveUA-cam Since you want to be nice, I'll let you know that I’ve read those texts in two different languages, and I'll provide you with facts that you can easily verify. If you take the time to read them, you’ll see that the authors never identify themselves at any point and consistently write in the third person, even when referring to the characters who later were attributed as the authors, as in Matthew 9:9-13. All of these in a language different from the one Jesus and his disciples spoke.
"John" never confirms that he is the son of Zebedee in the Gospels. If you read the text, you’ll find that this claim simply isn’t there. The idea that John, son of Zebedee, wrote the Gospel comes from Irenaeus, a man who first assigned the current titles to these texts in the latter part of the second century. In fact, "John," the anonymous author of the Gospel, mentions that he got his information from an unnamed source referred to as "the disciple whom Jesus loved."
@@InCaseYouDidntKnowIHaveUA-cam I’ve read those texts in two different languages, and I'll provide you with facts that you can easily verify. If you take the time to read them, you’ll see that the authors never identify themselves at any point and consistently write in the third person, even when referring to the characters who later were attributed as the authors, as in Matthew 9:9-13. All of these in a language different from the one Jesus and his disciples spoke.
@@InCaseYouDidntKnowIHaveUA-cam "John" never confirms that he is the son of Zebedee in the Gospels. If you read the text, you’ll find that this claim simply isn’t there. The idea that John, son of Zebedee, wrote the Gospel comes from Irenaeus, a man who first assigned the current titles to these texts in the latter part of the second century. In fact, "John," the anonymous author of the Gospel, mentions that he got his information from an unnamed source referred to as "the disciple whom Jesus loved."
@@vejeke Mb, my translation says how he was the disciple
Then how come the apostle writers of the new testament all give different analogy and details of the resurrection? It's there in the Bible. I forgot the chapters but if you read it, you will find out for yourself.
You do know that some of the chapters were accounts and some were by others right. plus it’s only natural humans make slight mistakes if they want the same exact same account that would be pretty Odd. Most detectives find it very suspicious of accounts are the exact same compared to historians where if there’s slight difference they can usually get a unanimous agreement. Also they are very slight differences in terms of the resurrection and what Jesus said most if not all the things about the theology in the Bible are very consistent with each other.
The gospels were accounts of the perspectives of four different men with different ways of looking at what happened. I think you'll find that is consistent with every human to ever exist. This doesn't debunk anything they wrote. In fact it points to a lack of collusion, which actually makes their accounts more reliable.
@@webslinger527 We do not expect them to be exactly the same, just to be consistent and not contradict each other. Also, in the court of law, since you brought it up, witness testimony is the weakest form of evidence, since it has been proven over and over again to not be reliable... Yet, we have to trust and mold our entire life from alleged testimony made millennia ago?
This is what happens when a person is determined to believe what they already believe.
There's a lot here that's refuted by actual Xtian scholars, including Shawn McDowell.
Please pray for me, I need Jesus in my life😢❤
Demons seem to be manifesting here. Why so much contempt for a humble prayer request? I pray for your protection in the name of the blessed Trinity
I'll think for you instead of pray for you. Is that good enough for you?
@@Paolo8772 Y'know you're a real prick. Who hurt you?
Well. Have you ever heard of conspiracy theories? We have information at our fingertips and even then, people make up all kind of things that they truest belive in. And you don’t need 20 years to develop some radical claims about something. There is debate in what people belive, Christians didnt even agree during Paul’s day in the core teachings of the resurrection of Christ. That Paul felt he needed to refute it shows at least to me that he felt he needed to address it, if it was something that Paul didn’t revere as a threat to his churches why would he address it at all? He sights eye wittness testimony (the 500 among others) but he doesn’t say who they are, that could indicate that the identity of the 500 were common knowledge, if there were real at all. Paul could make up som rhetorical “evidence” here to get people on board. This was well after the 20 years that this video talk about, and there still were disputes about one of the corner stones of the church, the resurrection of the dead and Christ.
Just realised I didn’t say which letter I’m referring too. 1 Corinthians 15
Imagine if Spiderman claimed that Spiderman is real. Then some people dressed up as Spiderman. A lot of people claim they saw Spiderman.
imagine if Spiderman claimed that Spiderman is real, shot webs from his wrists and climbed a wall with his fingers to prove it, and had over 500 witnesses of all sorts of backgrounds who attest to seeing it happen
@@samichjpgand the people who witnessed were put to die brutally and they still said that what he said was true
@@gilmsgabriel exactly
@@gilmsgabrielwho are you talking about that we’re put to death from knowing Jesus ?
@@samichjpgit’s not 500 witness saying something. It’s one person saying there were 500 witnesses.
It‘s absolutely hilarious to me how people will try and act like God and Jesus are just copies of other religions, and then they won‘t provide any evidence to back it up whilst spouting opinionated bullshit. They‘ll just make bogus claims, like Jesus and Horus are almost the same, and then when you show them that what they were basing their claims off of wasn‘t even true in the first place, they act as if they knew that already and weren‘t just blatantly attempting to spread misinformation in order to forward their own agenda.
Even if the stories about Jesus are unique and not lifted from another religion or culture, they do not indicate that Jesus as depicted in The Bible ever existed. Even if there is proof that a man called Jesus existed, and even if no other religion tells similar stories, the idea of a divine being that somehow bestows a single individual with his divinity, or else that this being actually took physical form, has yet to be proven to the point where it ought to compel someone who is atheist.
God isn’t real, Lol. it’s literally a character from European mythology about an evil sorcerer, who talks to snakes & turtles, summons giant armies of crickets to attack the townspeople’s crops, casts spells of evil spirits who feast on the souls of the 1st born, and has an undead zombie apprentice who rose from the grave & rides a donkey into town to declare his glory🫏🤣
@@thefuturist8864 Will you gain anything by persisting in ignorance? Seek wisdom and truth and it will manifest into a better life, here on Earth and beyond. Remember that your situation is not permanent. Denying God won't help because you don't know the future, but he does. Jesus makes a good case for trusting that God shall provide. Just as he feeds the birds of the trees, who have no tents or money; why won't the Lord provide for all his faithful? If a child asks his dad for a toy, will the dad give him a rock? Why think less of our heavenly Father? It's more beneficial to trust that he has a plan for us, so that we may be attentive enough to participate in that plan. The Israelites kept complaining of their tough living conditions in the desert after being rescued from slavery. They lost faith and got distracted by falsehood and ignorance. The consequence was that it took them 40 years to reach the promised land.
Faith in God is very important. He will give you a sense of peace and relief, knowing that you're in communion with the creator of the universe. Unceasingly ask him for what you truly need and for patience to wait for him to deliver. I know that he always does.
I also was virtually an atheist more than a year ago. I was contacted via divine intervention. It was an invitation to try out a different lifestyle, opposite from the one I was living. All your life you've been living as by your choices, still you aren't happy, he said. Why not try the opposite and see if it helps? Immediately the next morning I confessed my sins and got absolved by the church. I haven't been the same since!
I pray for you friend, that God may reveal himself to you, as he did for me. I also pray that you enter into the appropriate mindset so that you may be fully receptive to his call. In the name of the blessed Trinity. Amen
@@thefuturist8864 Fair enough. If you were given sufficient undeniable evidence of God, would you be open to changing your mind?
@@hanseldsilva2393 I think most people, also atheists would change their mind if there was undeniable evidence, that clearly points to a god. Then depending on what that argument is, it also has to be a strong argument for the Christian god.(depending on what you want me to convince of). However I have not seen any undeniable evidence doing that points to even any god, that leaves no other possibilites.
I did what you said and have a question about what I read about the mount.
Jesus said “And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.”
So god/Jesus didn’t like non-Jews? Or at least god doesn’t hear them?
What did you think that last part was going to accomplish lol
Exactly....
He thought he ate but left the table untouched-
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What do you mean?
@@dionysos1096zesty
Congrats im the 1000 people who liked and loved this video. Amazing work
Awesome. Thank you for liking 🙏
The bible for being the word of god sounds awfully man-made, its values and morals and worldview all tend to match the ideas of that era, something that's truly godlike would not be limited to reality.
Everything about god sounds like a fairytale to explain what humans can't understand or struggle to cope with, we dread and fear the idea of not understanding something.
Simply put god is a copping mechanism for humanity, people need this lie cause they're afraid of the alternative.
But why would that be Jesus? Why wouldnt it be another god or another powerful being?
It could be possible but it's not guaranteed. Assurance comes from believing in God's promises and in his son who rose from the dead. No other cultural gods guarantee salvation or eternal life.
Hebrews 11:6:"But without faith no man can please God. He that comes to God must believe that He is, and that He rewards those who seek Him."
Christians evangelize out of a desire to share God's love and the hope found in Christ with others, inviting them to experience a personal relationship with God and to find fulfillment in His purpose for their lives. faith in Christ is the way to reconciliation with God and ultimate fulfillment.
Why ignore something that's literally the most consequential choice to make?
I personally do not believe in the Bible, I'm agnostic. Do I believe that there was a Jesus that existed in the past? Sure, it's definitely possible.
Do I believe that we have a creator? ABSOLUTELY. I'm sure that we humans came from someone, something or somewhere.
Do I know who that creator is? No, and even though most religious folks say that they do, they do not. No one really knows.
I humbly believe that one does not needs to be religious or believe in Jesus to have good morals, values, or even to have common sense.
I choose to live my life the way that I want to live without worrying about where I'm heading to after we die. That's none of my business and honestly no one knows where we will all go lol. 🤷🏻♂️
Same lol
Good , You acknowledge the possibility of a Creator and the historical existence of Jesus. You value good morals and common sense, living your life authentically.
Now Consider the words of the prophet Isaiah, "Come now, let us reason together," says the Lord. "No matter how deep the stain of your sins, I can remove it. I can make you as clean as freshly fallen snow" (Isaiah 1:18, TLB). The invitation to reason with God is open to all, regardless of belief.
You question the identity of the Creator. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can get to the Father except by means of me. If you had known who I am, then you would have known who my Father is" (John 14:6-7, TLB). How does this claim challenge your understanding of truth and access to God?
You believe one can have good morals without religious belief. Indeed, God's law is written on the hearts of all people, guiding them to good. Yet, Jesus offers more: "I have come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly" (John 10:10, TLB). What if there is a fullness of life beyond mere morality, found in knowing and following Christ?
You choose not to worry about the afterlife. Jesus spoke of a place He prepares: "There are many homes up there where my Father lives, and I am going to prepare them for your coming" (John 14:2, TLB). What if this promise offers hope and assurance beyond this life?
In love, I ask you to consider these questions deeply. Your journey is your own, but know that you are invited to explore the depths of God's love and truth. "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that anyone who believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16, TLB).
Reflect and seek with an open heart, for "you will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart" (Jeremiah 29:13, TLB). Peace be with you on your journey.
@@hanseldsilva2393 I don't share those same beliefs of yours but I respect it. Thanks, and same to you! Good luck on your journey! 👋😊
@@BlueAngelito. What I like is that your response at least doesn't carry any hate , which greatly appreciated ... May your life be blessed bro.
You're doing great work brother, keep it up!
I love how Paulogia logically and rationally dismembers this video.
Replying to raise this post in the algorithm.
Every time an apologist speaks they only further convince me of the weakness of their case.
This comment should be pinned
@@chrisgrill6302 So many apologists, either through dishonesty or lack of logical reasoning ability, put forward fundamentally weak arguments, and anyone who is logical or rational can easily spot them. I suspect apologists, much like used car salesmen, are good at roping in the mentally unprepared, but drive those with critical thinking skills away. I think that's part of the push by Evangelical organizations to kill public schooling with vouchers or home schooling.
Big old cope, this video. And Paul's video is better for, at the very least, quoting Monty Python. WINNER: Paulogia
Ive seen this video several times now and something from this video has absolutely stuck with me: around 4:44 there is a claim that every person has some sort of "truth detector" and can miraculously know if something is true. Is this true of anyone listening? This is NOT true of myself, i cannot simply evaluate something at face value and say "this is true" or "this is wrong". And even when i evalutate the truth of something, im still never to "knowing" something unless i can personally demonstrate it. I need to actively seek out information and do research to find out if something is true. And in that area i am not sure christianity is good enough. But i wonder if this is some sort of admittance that proof and evidence are not required for faith? That people come to a conclusion before fully understanding and researching christianity?
I think he meant because it is something made by god it should be easy to tell if it is made by god because god equipped us with a soul and morals and feelings.
yeah. I'm a Christian (not a good one) but I think the argument in this video is pretty bad. And it's reasonable. There are really no concrete evidences that a religion is true and the other one is wrong. Religions are truly based on faith
On-point, as always👍👍
You are not too bright huh ! This gibberish can be ripped apart with ease
@@gowdsake7103 Do it then
If ever God is true, I still think he is far from how Christianity describes him. The world is so cruel that it's impossible that he is "All-knowing, All-powerful, and All-good being."
what else could he be though? some finite, or not good being? disproving the existence of gods like zeus is much easier than disproving the god of classical monotheism for good reason.
It's either the whole god, or no god, and I'm much more convinced of his existence
@@bekfastdude8022 You missed the point of my comment completely. I'm not disproving god's existence, I'm still open for the possibility that there is a god's existence. What I'm saying is there is no way that the god that the christianity describes is true. I do believe if there's a god, all he did was to create the universe and us and that he didn't care at all.
Yeah if there is a god he’s either not all powerful or not all loving, to let such cruelty happen
@@HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAJA bro forgot genesis 6:6 😢
Gang forgot genesis 6:6
Thankyou for Making this Video.I am really struggling with doubt about God and Christianity.This video helped me a little, Thanks❤
"16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." John 3
"28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." Matthew 11
" 5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14
Don't forget, GOD became man, JESUS CHRIST, died for us, and the only way to reach GOD THE FATHER is His Son JESUS CHRIST, Mary, Mohammed, Buddha, Confucius, they don't save anyone, repent, believe only in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Embrace your doubt. You are too grown up for fiction.
@@VaughanMcCue "16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." John 3
You can totally make up if a deity is truth or not. There’s been so many deities throughout history. And there might be more in the future
Lots of classic "oofs" in this one, lol.
@alessiobaley1792 Someone who disagrees with the points made in the video has to be angry? Nonsense.
I disagree, the points made in this video are pretty concrete, lol.
"Would you die for something you knew was a lie?"
I imagine the answer most people would give to this would be 'no', but it doesn't follow from this that if someone is willing to die for something it must therefore be true. We must accept that *knowledge*, not *truth*, is the salient factor; a lie, if believed to be true (and believed with enough force), can certainly become something someone would be willing to die for. Put very simply: being willing to die for something does not do anything to show whether or not it is true.
As for the video in general, even if we accept the specific counter-arguments given against the respective claims, it doesn't follow that Christianity has been shown to be true; rather, it has been shown to be somewhat unique (at least among monotheistic faiths) but uniqueness doesn't indicate truth. A big problem with the accounts of Jesus given in the Gospels is that there is no secondary evidence to support them; there are the Gospels, and nothing more. There may be evidence that a man named Jesus was alive at that time and in that part of the world, but this ought not to compel us to believe that the Gospels are correct. If someone claims that they saw the author Ken Follett teleport from one side of King's Cross station to the other, and I don't believe them, it doesn't do the proponent of the story any good to merely prove that Mr. Follett was in the station around that time.
What ought to strike us about Christianity, and religion in general, is that there is rarely a compelling case that a non-believer can make that would compel *themselves* to change their mind. If I believe that London is not the capital of England, I can find all the evidence I need to construct a counter-claim that ought to change my mind. Put simply, I ought to be able to change my own mind. Religion doesn't allow for this, as an atheist such as myself does not believe that divinity is possible, or that there could exist anything that might indicate such divinity.
I feel that for your first paragraph the emphasis needs to be that the disciples died not for something that they only held to by belief (as Christians today do) but rather, what they all claimed to have seen with their own two eyes: a dead man returned to life. That is completely different compared to just a belief one happens to be holding or that was told to an individual later on. They were eyewitnesses.
As for your second paragraph there are plenty of historical and non-Christian sources outside the Bible regarding Jesus' existence as well as his performance of miracles. So your statement that "there are the Gospels, and nothing more." is just false. A 5 minute Google search would have given you the answers for that but I'll just leave one from the historian Josephus "At this time there appeared Jesus, a wise man. For he was a doer of startling deeds, a teacher of people who receive the truth with pleasure. And he gained a following among many Jews and among many of Greek origin." So right there you have a non-Christian not only affirming Jesus' existence but that he worked miracles.
@@pcdeltalink036I am christian, but I didn't have faith in Jesus existence.. I was oddly inlove with science, which led me become a more logical person but this channel itself is helping me grow my faith again, that there is Jesus..❤ after all it would be UNREASONABLE to think not, everything in this universe is so precise .. we managed to exist, to live, to flourish .. surely it can't all be a coincidence .. a divine is out there
He never said that just being willing to die for something by necessity makes it true. People BELIEVE things that aren't true and are willing to die for them all of the time.
But here's the thing. These people who spent three years of their lives WITH Jesus, WOULD know the truth. Why? Because they were there. They had first hand evidence, they WITNESSED life with Jesus. So there is an inherent difference between me, say, being willing to die for the flat earth society because I BELIEVE the earth is flat (Does not prove anything). Compare that with me going into space, and seeing the earth from above, and THEN coming back and being willing to die for the flat earth society. Doesn't it then hold MUCH more weight with my first hand experience?
Put it this way. I am a disciple of this strange rabbi from galilee, who the religious leaders think is dangerous. I've lived in, less than ideal conditions, to say the least, wandering from town to town, living with these 12 other WEIRD people that I definitely didn't get along with. I watch this rabbi heal people, cast out demons, show absolute service and absolute unconditional love. He pisses off the religious elite, and they have him killed. I am now terrified, running for my life. After all, if they killed my master, wouldn't they ALSO try to kill me if I preach him? So I decide to just stay quiet and try to live out the rest of my peaceful life. Maybe this guy wasn't the son of God after all. I mean, how can God DIE? I try to forget all that I've experienced.
But something incredibly strange happens. I see this man again. In radiance and glory, and the other 12 do too. AT THE SAME TIME. And we touch him, he is there all right. He tells us to go and live out the rest of our lives by preaching the good news, that there is a way back to God. Anyway, the twelve of us go proclaiming his name, performing miracles, and spreading exponentially. Uh oh, I'm getting persecuted. The religious elite and roman authorities believe I am now a threat to the order. They tell me to stand down or they will arrest and kill me. At this point, if I KNEW we just conspired to make our names great, and that none of what we were preaching is real, then wouldn't I then, to maintain right standing with God (who must not have approved of Jesus if he didnt get raised from the dead), or at the very least to protect the little bit of life that I have left, disengage and obey?
It makes zero sense for any self-preserving organism to throw themselves willingly into a belief that they KNOW is false, and dangerous to themselves and their families. You might say they were deluded, but how do you explain the exponential growth of the church afterwards? How do you explain the stability of the religion as a whole?
We have to realize that Religious fanatics die for lies all the time. Marshall Applewhite. Jim Jones. David Koresh. Joseph Smith. The Solar Temple Sect. As you go through history, the list goes on and on. People who want to control others often would rather die than admit they are pushing a scam. All these people were either mentally ill and had convinced themselves they were telling the truth, or were too embarrassed to admit they were scamming people. I don't see any reason to believe the few apostles that died were any different.
Lets ask the 9/11 hijackers ... oh, wait. Sheesh, people die for falsehoods all the time but there are many more who live for falsehoods.
Lots people die for their religions. Even the non Christian ones that have no mention of Jesus or monotheism. So did they know it was a lie and chose to die for their religion anyways? How do all these diverse people know their incomparable faith is the correct one enough to take their own life? All I'm saying is that argument is poor and platitudinous
2:40 I mean you literally just showed an example of people dying for lies it happens all the time alot actually
Yeah, u are not mad at all
Yes it does, but people don't die for something they know is a lie. Jesus' 12 apostles of all people would have known if he was the truth or a hoax and yet they died for what they knew was true.
@@Preston-ek1vbactually there’s only evidence for a couple of them dying. The rest are unaccounted for, but that doesn’t stop Christian’s from asserting that they all died martyrs despite having insufficient evidence. In fact, it’s pretty on brand for the religious to assert things as fact that nobody knows.
@@Preston-ek1vb Have you ever heard of delusions of grandeur? They could convince themselves that Jesus was who he said he was quite easily.
Though, it’s more likely who ever narrated the Bible stories was unreliable and embellished most if not all of the details of what the disciples said/did to make the Christ figure seem more believable.
in the beginning man created gods
Examine an atom. Go deep. Go as deep as a particle physicist, the most brilliant ones, can go.
Where did the rules governing what happens there come from?
Nothing ordered comes from disorder without a force or deeper order.
In the beginning...where was the human which made up those gods?
God=Energy
@@johnyoutube6746 energy alone, no.
Intelligence, Purpose, Origin/Creator of Meaning, That Which Balances the Dance Between Order and Chaos-Yes.
@@glenliesegang8935
Memory intelligence wisdom ideas thoughts emotions belief etc
It's all only in the brain
It's all temporary
When you die it's all gone and erase
Brain is also run by energy
Brain has billion neuron cells that generates electricity
Everything is energy
We are all one flow of energy
Uni=one
Verse=song
@@johnyoutube6746 maybe. Maybe not.
Planck time has energy without direction. Only in time does entropy increase.
It is scale which governs life and death. The dance goes on.
And, if we are but Flatlanders?
My questions are
- He all got the powers and he could just create a world just full of happyness, without sins, without loneliness, without death, etc. Why he didn't do that. Are we a result of failed experiment?
- Where is he now? is he coming back?
- Does he actually hear people's prayers?
- Can he just erase all and go back to nothingness?
- Who created him? does a sudden abnormality due to nothingness created him?
Just think his creations have more creativity than he does. We could be flying without wings like superman but nope just a born existence of working ourselves to survive
@larysnw418 Do you think god already knew that adam and eve will violate him the moment he created them?
@larysnw418 A world without sin would be incapable of sinning but yet didn't Adam and Eve get kicked out because of a sin. Before Eve disobeyed she thought it, making it sinful
@larysnw418I thought he was all knwoing
@larysnw418bullshit
Ok, literally having just read the sermon on the mount, this does not strike me as anything that is inherently true, rather something that anyone with decent moral fiber really wishes were true. I could literally give a counter example for every line of it.
I'm no stranger to Christianity either, I was raised as a Jehovah's witness before I and the rest of my family came to realize that it's just a collection of legends and nothing more. I won't tell you what to believe. Just consider this as an honest response from someone with a secular perspective.
I appreciate your honest response, and your choice. Peace.
Well Isaac that was part of your problem is the Jehovah witness .
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No but in all seriousness just because one group doesn't extreme or not in the right way doesn't mean God doesn't exist.
I encourage you to research the catholic church. And see where your heart leads you.
Clearly it did on something because you took the time to watch this video.
@@rachaelkelly8740 so did I and I'm an atheist, I was never indoctrinated as a child, can honestly say have never believed in a god or had a need for religion, there's is no proof any of it is true...why does god want to remain the hide and seek champion of the world, showed up all the time a while back, why not now?
@@DeanWuksta it's all about free will. God wants us to come to him willing, not be force. When you seek him he does show himself. But you don't see him like you see me. You see him on the things he does. Just like you can't see the wind you can feel it. You can see the things that the wind moves. God is alot like this.
Also remember that we are living in a spiritual battle. The devil also has influenced and will do everything to pull you away from God. He causes chaos and destruction .
I encourage you to pray for 30 days. And also listen to Bible in a year. By father Mike. Father Mike reads the Bible and breaks it down for you in 20 min segments.
You stated you weren't raised with any religion. Do this on an informational bases. Because to me, you coming onto this video says there is something in you that wants to know.
I hope you have a wonderful day
God bless
Ps. Even if you don't believe on God, God still loves you. Everything you have done in your life you that was wrong or bad if you ask for forgiveness you are forgiven. Jesus died for both you and me.
@@rachaelkelly851 free will, unless you pray wanting god to intervene, so thats no longer free will. Thousands of christians were crushed to death in 9/11, and they prayed before falling to their death. The wind can be explained by science, as can space, the rain, the sun etc, but the bible understanding is wrong on all scientific accounts, understanding is nil, written by primitive desert dwellers, as i said, there is nothing inspiring in the bible, considering he created a universe, he has passed on very bad science and understanding of people. I was not indoctrinated, i refused to believe at school, i have read the bible, and have researched earlier versions of the stories, and realised that none of the christian concepts are original, all borrowed from previous writings. Walk thru any child cancer ward and u may understand there is no god, it could have been another way, see the abuse of children thru social services, there is unlikely to be a god. Please look up from your book and open your eyes. I have read the bible a few times, twice in its entirety, and I think its ridiculous and clearly a work of fiction.You have no proof of
otherwise except the bible proving the bible.
The point is man has been waiting on jesus for 2000 plus years
"My religion isn't just another myth fairytale or legend because I want to believe it us true".
Stop lying.
People aren't saying the jesus character is a direct copy of other gods, they're saying there's clearly a lot of religious motifs in that time period and these have been applied to the jesus character. There is no reason why it would need to be a one on one copy, that would exactly be what you DON'T expect. Obviously if you're basing your character on existing motifs, you're going to use your own details and themes that fit with your religion. That doesn't change the fact that things like rising from the dead, turning water into wine, faith healing, and all kinds of other nonsense were common tropes.
People talking about what christians believed isn't evidence the christians were right... It's evidence about what beliefs christians had. And you can't use the bible as evidence that jesus existed, the bible is the claim that NEEDS evidence. So, you have exactly no evidence the guy existed at all.
The real reason historians accept jesus as having existed, rather than your lies, is that they accept ANY character as probably having existed unless they have clear evidence they didn't. Because some person existing isn't a big deal. There easily could've been a guy or several guys that the stories formed around. That only means humans existed. So historians don't bother with it, because if they only accept people exist where we have clear positive evidence (like of Alexander the Great, which we have tons of evidence for right in the period where he lived, just not written accounts) there wouldn't be a whole lot of history left. But obviously, historians saying "we're just going to assume there probably was a person the stories were tagged onto" does not in any way support ANY of the supernatural claims the bible makes. Rather the opposite, historians NEVER accept the supernatural claims, they just assume they were tagged to a person.
But interestingly the only real witness you have - Paul - doesn't even claim he met jesus until after he was dead, and then in a vision rather than in an actual physical resurrected state. So you have zero witnesses of a physically existing jesus.
But again, whether a guy existed is irrelevant. The supernatural claims are still baseless.
There is no evidence the disciples died gruesome deaths, were ever persecuted, or were given a chance to recant, or even for most of them that they existed at all. Telling stories that aren't even in the bible is not evidence... Nor does it matter if they did, because people dying for their beliefs only shows they really believe it (or find it really important that other people believe it, even if they themselves don't). This does not indicate their beliefs were correct. You need EVIDENCE for that. And again, no christian has ever shown actual evidence.
Okay, but Christians don't need to fulfill your personal parameters of evidence. Just accept that when people believe, it helps them, otherwise they would stop believing. It's called a belief, not science. Even in an atheistic world view I don't understand how people can be so anti-religion, because it would be a natural phenomenon of human development, to live better lives, the only thing you have as an atheist.. maximizing the comfort of this life. And while you look to science for this, others refuse to believe we are just some random stardust, with no moral baseline and higher purpose, because it makes them feel better. On what morality are you basing your stance that your personal parameters of evidence are more valuable than peoples' religious beliefs? Since you don't believe in a god (I assume), you base it on your own made up personal morality, why would yours be any more valuable than any other two legged piece of stardusts' morality?
Paulogia just released an excellent response to this video. Pretty much debunks every single one of your points.
More than just a reply. Paulogia absolutely WRECKED every single one these arguments. So does Dr. Richard Carrier, Dr Robert M. Price, David Fitzgerald and many many others. Even Dr. Bart Ehrman, who believes Jesus DID exist, trounces 99% of these weak arguments.
God doesn't believe in atheists, neither do I.
His claims were good but only if they were true like the campfire theory and same can be said to Christian claims, so either is plausible. Jesus has more historical records of his life than Alexander the Great
@@Jay-pq7nf The Alexander the Great trope is laughably false. There are statues of Alexander, coins with his face on them, and inscriptions that bear his name, all created while he was alive, unlike Jesus, who was only ever written about second hand or further after his death. And proving that Jesus was an actual person is the lowest, least consequential hurdle you have to overcome in your argument.
@@kevindavis5966 I didn’t say the general person as a whole but their life
The quote: "Would you die for something you know was a lie?" Is always used. And the answer is "Yeah." People are willing to do that all the time. Simply loom at our politics.
Amazing videos for my own fatih as well as sharing it with non Christian friends, thanks for the amazing work you put in!
We live in a BIBLICAL world, in where BAAL is worshipped and praised to this day and CHRIST is rejected by many.
GOD give us different languages, just to stop us from finishing the building of the tower of BABEL.
If the tower of BABEL was never build, the language of man would have stayed the same. /whatever was the language in which mankind speak in those days).
GOD give us languages of different kind, not religions. Man made up religions. Religions are our own fantasies and imaginations.
Therefore, souls, lets seek CHRIST, not religions.
No verse given in bible, which calls us to become “religious”.
Bible has verses which say: REPENT AND BORN AGAIN!
Matthew 3:2
And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
John 3:7
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
@@theharshtruthoutthere Yes heresy religions are sadly practised but that is the state of the world due to sin. "BAAL is worshipped and praised to this day and CHRIST is rejected by many" is a very silly take. Christianity have billions of followers and baal is about hedonism and child offerings if I recall correctly?
My challenge: if you're mad and don't believe in god, why are you here right now? So angry and passionate to disprove something you don't believe in. Or, do you know the truth and thats what makes you so mad?
Haha good question! Maybe it's just that we are an easy target and they want to feel better about themselves. Haha after all there nothing like us so for me the bigger question would be why bother?
Islam specifically orders for capital punishment of former believers and people are ostracized from their own families when they stop believing. It's not black and white, leaving a religion might bring abuse, social isolation or even disowment.
Please try to be more charitable and less dismissive of those who disagree with you. Atheists aren’t ‘mad’ (in either sense of the word) and we tend to be critical of *anyone* who is making claims that cannot be backed up. You ought not to take it personally, as we would say exactly the same to someone who believed that the world was belched into existence by a giant invisible turtle.
That is the lamest attempt at psychoanalysis I have ever seen. Ur a frickin idiot!
@@thefuturist8864Hi. Excellent reply, very carefully measured. Cheers, P.R.
Jesus preached the day of judgment will come in their time - in their generation. It passed 2000 years and when we look for updates it still says: coming soon..
So it's fair to say Jesus was a apocalyptic prophet for his time but.. His prophecies hadn't come true so far.
Or.. maybe he already came back and we're just left behind.
If you believe the failed "doomsday cult garbage," then you're not the brightest tool in the shed.
As someone that doesn’t have any religion
I would say that this is the most convincing argument for god.
Good luck, great video❤
How?
Oh well if I am wrong I sure hope doesn’t torture me till the end of existence. That sure would suck
Thats not how it works
You could end up in heaven with ray discomfort asking you about your bedroom activities.
@@VaughanMcCue yeah asking how hard I fucked your mum
It could be possible but it's not guaranteed. Assurance comes from believing in God's promises and in his son who rose from the dead. No other cultural gods guarantee salvation or eternal life.
Hebrews 11:6:"But without faith no man can please God. He that comes to God must believe that He is, and that He rewards those who seek Him."
Christians evangelize out of a desire to share God's love and the hope found in Christ with others, inviting them to experience a personal relationship with God and to find fulfillment in His purpose for their lives. faith in Christ is the way to reconciliation with God and ultimate fulfillment.
Why ignore something that's literally the most consequential choice to make?
1.) There are numerous, "internal" evidences that definitively prove that the original gospel (Mark) was actually a literary fabrication, built upon and added to, by the later gospel writers and then deliberately *projected* back into history by Roman authorities and used as a tool, to unite and promote the growing cult of Christianity and validate the movement by giving it a historical basis
2.) The way in which this religion was used and how it subsequently evolved and developed historically, shows the tell-tell signs of political motivation, with a *governing* purpose and plainly empirical intent.
3.) The Jesus story reeks of cross-cultural contamination, meeting all the criteria for the Hero's Journey motif, outlined by Joseph Campbell in his writings and is clearly a re-telling or re-vamping, of several of the much older Greek epics, including Homer's Odyssey and the Iliad.
I think you just proved how powerful wealthy and resourceful is church and religion
No, the gospels date to several decades after his death and there is no certainty that the authors ever saw or knew the guy they were writing about. You should also remember that the gospels are not objective journalism. They were written as persuasive literature by authors having strong religious agendas. In short, they are thinly disguised advertising and marketing
If they wrote them for marketing they were stupid as they knew the writing of such things would probably get them killed. So any profit doesn’t matter when your.. dead. Also a few decades after makes perfect sense for writing. Many people we know of in history luke mentioned in this video aren’t even accounts from people in the same generation
Bible was written in the 1st century, and with the New Testament only about 30-ish years (maybe a bit more but not much) after his death, that’s actually great compared to literally any other account of people in history.
This information is 100% credible.
@@HopefulRain While this proximity does support their historical reliability to some extent, it's also important to consider the processes of oral tradition, the intentions of the authors, and other historical-critical methods that scholars use to assess these texts."
@@finnie9210 If you go with other assessments it only bolsters the credibility even further, word of mouth can be seen from Josephus to all the way to Pilate, including the mentions of the followers of Jesus being called delusional at the time and persecuted.
(With many other mentions relating to “The King of the Jews)
When it comes to author intentions the above comment over my first one explains it pretty well, they wrote to show truth in their eyes, even if it killed them.
Some of these authors, Peter, Mark, Luke, etc. we’re direct disciples of Jesus and knew him personally with the given accounts that they’ve shared (Which we’re also consistent).
And they *all* died for their accounts.
@@HopefulRain While it is widely accepted that Peter was a historical figure and a follower of Jesus, the details of his life and interactions with Jesus come from the Gospels, which were written decades after the events they describe.
There are no contemporary, non-biblical sources that confirm Peter’s direct interactions with Jesus. Most of the evidence comes from later Christian tradition and writings.
Regarding Mark, the traditional view that he was a companion of Peter and wrote his Gospel based on Peter’s accounts is supported by early Church Fathers like Papias. However, this tradition originates from the early 2nd century, and there is no direct evidence that Mark personally met Jesus. Scholars generally agree that Mark’s Gospel reflects Peter’s teachings but do not consider Mark an eyewitness.
While Paul's contributions to early Christian theology are significant, his writings primarily reflect theological interpretations rather than direct historical documentation of Jesus' life and teachings. Paul's encounter with Jesus was a visionary experience that profoundly influenced his beliefs and teachings, but it does not provide independent historical evidence about Jesus' earthly ministry.
Interesting points
I like how well produced and edited this video is
Yes of course Human made their god by their own minds!
Thats why there so many gods!!
Theirs allah, theirs buddha and theirs jesus
Dont believe in god
Believe science!!
You can be religious and believe science
Why is it that humans so desperate seek God? Whether they get him right or wrong, the question is intriguing. It’s worth asking yourself.
Buddha us not s god he is more of a teacher
no, believing is science is bullshit!, there is no need to believe or not believe in science. Scientific facts are true whether you believe in it or not
@@ihavecoronavirus9802 he is considered by many to be a higher entity
Hm. I have a couple questions that I would love to engage with you on.
1. How do we separate what we consider myth from the story of Jesus? We say that the story of Jesus is so unique that it has to be something other than a myth that humans can create, because myth is predictable. In response, I would raise the problem of other people/characters/beings/truths that appear in other cultures. For one: Buddha. Gautama, in my opinion, is as unique as Jesus is in every way, even if they are different. And you also then said that other gods that are similar to Jesus in reality are not like Jesus at all; does that mean that because they are not like Jesus, their prominence are less than Jesus? This seems to be too christian-centric for a topic that is vast in its scope. At the very least, if your proposition is that Jesus’ story is on a higher tier, a explanation is due.
2. How do we know that there is a distinction between what is man made and what is divine? God may not be able to act in this world in God’s true form, because it is possible that all of this is god. All of us are pieces of god broken up into a cosmic sand box and molded into different shapes. Because we are in dimension that may not be able to even hold something like God within it, we may interpret God’s actions through what IS in this material realm, because all of the material realm IS a manifestation of god. I would not say that all of the material is God because God is more than just the material. The material realm is more like a byproduct of god.
Long story short, my second question is: How do we separate what is man made, and what is divine, when anything man made is only shaped and not created?
The creation is God. In my opinion, nothing can be truly man made, only man shaped? EVEN THEN! We are not outside of creation. We are also creation. So nothing is MAN MADE, it is only ever Divine because it is God shaping God through God. Do not confuse this with a narcissistic notion of “I AM GOD”. That is not the case. The smoke emitted by a steam engine is not the steam engine; it is just a byproduct of the engine. The smoke would not have existed if not for the engine, it moves because of the functions of the engine, but it is not the engine. We may be collectively god in the 3rd dimension manifesting themselves, but none of us are individually God.
Again that is the way I have grown to see things and would love to bounce these thoughts off of your own; or whoever reads this!
You have a very nuanced perspective, i’d like to converse with you, do you have the walkie talkie app?
@@khanyisaqhuba6659 I just downloaded it! I’d love to hear your thoughts on these matters
@@LexingtonAve I agree with you all I want is just the truth the truth about humanity where we come from are we the only ones out there in the universe thats my greatest wish the truth and not just based of belief I want proof with my own two eyes or actual video footage of it
@@June-us9zo How do you know when one thing is inspired by god and not the other? Because a text or source says so? The wisdom of god is inherent in all life that is able to find it within themselves, if god made everything, than anything that can be made my man is god inspired from the very beginning; in my opinion.
The word of God is inspired. However we fight the principalities of the air. Consider the influence of Ashteroth (Ishtar). She is a goddess who inspired men to cut off their dicks and dress like women. Her celebration month was June. Now consider that pride month is in June. Do these transgenders know that?! I really doubt it.
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Here's the truth. The story goes Josh died on the cross for our sin. Sin is still everywhere even after god wipes out the world's people.
Thor fights and protects the realms including earth from giants.
So truth is that there are no giants thanks to Thor and there is sin . So Yahweh must be fake and Thor real???
"There's plenty of evidence, just open a bible."
This statement alone throws any argument and credibility you may or may not have had, completely out the window.
Not really, it only demonstrates that you have a slightly (and I really do mean 'slightly' in the grand scheme of things...) different arbitrary judgement of what constitutes evidence and credibility than he does.
@@Mic1904Not really. It means that the mere fact that there is a text which contains a claim ought not to be considered sufficient evidence for the truth of said claim.
@@Mic1904 It is circular, because the claim comes from the bible and he tries to prove the bible right by using the bible.
Let's flip it, imagine you find a book that claims the government is poisoning all the water supplies with substances that make us compliant. You want to look for proof if any of it is true, but all the evidence you can find is in that book alone. Would you say the book that made the claim is evidence of the claim?
That doesn't mean the book itself cannot have evidence, but you have to check the evidence outside of the book to corroborate it. For example, let's take the 500 hundred witnesses claim. How does that claim become evidence? Well by corroborating those 500 exist. We can't corroborate they existed, therefore it is not evidence but a claim of evidence. If you use the claim to prove the claim, it is circular.
@Mic1904 bible is not an evidence
@@theedankesst5631 that's not true at all. Opening up a Bible will produce nothing but fabrications. If a person did some extensive research on the Bible, they wouldn't have to dispute with anyone else. There was never a Jesus, and therefore no Jesus is coming back. It should be a crime to tell people that lie over and over again. There will absolutely and positively be no Rapture, and no Jesus is not coming back.
It amazes me that people keep on buying into this. The Bible is fake news, at least most of it is.
He's just attacking a strawman. How about the fact that evolution exists? Or that the big bang was an event? Or that the earth is billions years old not thousands, and humans have only been around for some ten thousand years?
If scientist told you that the world was a trillian years old you would believe it. Try thinking for yourself. You are trying to prove something with evidence that you yourself can't verify the authenticity of. This is the exact same thing these Bible people do. They attempt to prove their point of the book being real by sourcing the book itself. The cognitive dissonance is laughable
Except everything you said is just wrong, because you can quite literally verify the authenticity of the earths age mate, we can use radiation and/or fossils with carbon dating to measure the earths age. Objectively it is billions of years old. In science there is no "thinking for yourself" there is only following the evidence. I'd love for you to walk into a University research lab and tell the scientists, "yeah well i think the earth is thousands of years old". The studipity is laughable, so stupid you couldn't even google how we can verify the Earths age. You're a joke. @@R.O.T.C._SEEM
If someone told me "Alexander the great existed" I would say "ok cool" and move on with my life. If someone told me "Alexander the Great did not exist" I would say "ok, cool" and move on with my life. If someone told me "Jesus existed" I would say "ok cool" and move on with my life. If someone told me "Jesus did not exist" I would say "ok, cool" and move on with my life.
But if someone told me that Alexander the Great is the son of God, he came to this world to spread the good news, died for our sins, resurrected the third day, he is now in heaven, and if I do not believe he existed I would burn in hell for eternity... I would say "that is absurd" and move on with my life.
But if someone told me that Jesus is the son of God, he came to this world to spread the good news, died for our sins, resurrected the third day, he is now in heaven, and if I do not believe he existed I would burn in hell for eternity... I would say "that is absurd" and move on with my life.
We got coins, portrait and contemporary writings about Alexander, and nothing about Jesus.
@@freddan6flyThat's pretty false and a damned lie, and I would wager that you know it. We've got 2 millennia of church history in the Roman Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodox Church that prove completely otherwise. We have icons of the Christ, we have had many great Saints that grew in their faith under the Apostles and their disciples, all of whom give non-conflicting accounts of the same teaching throughout history. It is, in fact, this church tradition that began as mere letters to Byzantine and Roman churches which snowballed into the very institution that put together the works of the New Testament and created the Bible.
@@WSlopeAggie "That's pretty false and a damned lie, and I would wager that you know it. " - No it is not. Do you got coins from Jesus? Do you got contemporary writings? In such case, it is new data, and you would be famous. You are not so I bet you are just parroting lies.
"We've got 2 millennia of church history in the Roman Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodox Church that prove completely otherwise. " - How? People are gullible and have been gullible for several thousands of years, just look at you. Old churches is not the same as evidence, silly.
"We have icons of the Christ, we have had many great Saints that grew in their faith under the Apostles and their disciples, all of whom give non-conflicting accounts of the same teaching throughout history." - An Icon of Christ made at least 100 years after he died isn't evidence. Alleged saints is no evidence. There is extremely poor evidence for apostles, and no extra biblical evidence. Didn't you know that the bible is the claim, and not the evidence?
" It is, in fact, this church tradition that began as mere letters to Byzantine and Roman churches which snowballed into the very institution that put together the works of the New Testament and created the Bible." - And? In no way that claim is any evidence.
Many people were convinced, especially at the time when it was a death penalty to not believe in the fables of the bible.
Now the convicing is mostly done by childhood brainwash.
Accusing me of lying, without providing any evidence for me lying is in fact lying.
@@WSlopeAggieall of this evidence dates back from after the fall of Rome, or even after the Christianity becoming dominant Roman religion. remember, religion as it is is a very good way of controlling people, thus the first governments understood that and made it so official, so even they would genuinely believe in it.
Jesus was prophesied about hundreds even thousands years before, Alexander wasn't
Why would a simple camp fire story spread into all of judea and in the middle east rome the rest of europe and africa
Via the Romans, who were a dominant political power at the time and who brought Christianity to other parts of the world.
@@thefuturist8864 why didn't Judaism spread as far and wide as Christianity, wonder why that is.
CONSTANTINE sheesh
@@ApostolicvsIHSbecause it was an exclusive religion. The jews believed they were Gods chosen people, and gentiles were not. And so they didn't really bother proselytizing to others; they also dont and didn't believe in hell (defined as eternal judgement and punishment) so there was a much lesser pressure to preach and spread the religion. If i had to give a naturalistic explanation to why judaism didn't srpead it would be that. Judaism has a much weaker call to action than Christianity and is much more exclusive than it as well. A BIG part of Christianity is evangelism, and unlike judaism, anyone; jew or not; can become Gods people and have a personal relationship with Jesus. The "barrier to entry" is much lesser for Christianity as well. For the most part Christianity doesn't have any real "laws" aside from the "golden law" that jesus himself described. Now judaism consists of so many rituals and restrictions, even going as far as circumcision (which was widely believed to be required to be one with Gods people). So these are three reasons as to why i believe Christianity spread better than judaism, 1) inclusivity, 2) strong call to action, and 3) low (practically non existant) barrier/ cost of entry
There is just not a smoking gun available for me. There is not evidence that the apostles chose to die rather than recant. For something as important as a supernatural being showing itself to a more primitive civilization, one would think it would choose a much better proof than what is available from 2000 years ago.
Nice videos!
Awesome presentation man!
thank you friend
How do you end up at the end making an appeal to people's supposed intuitive ability to tell true from false? And then proceed to assert that if something follows me for the rest of the day, it is evidence of that things validity assuming it is something that is making a claim? First, if somebody fails to be convinced of the true divine nature and origin of these things by the sermon on the mount, was not your assertion that their intuitive abilities to tell true from false incorrect? And further, what if someone previously religious is followed by something they perceive as a compelling piece of evidence against such religious beliefs? Is that now something that attests to the validity of that idea? Clearly you are not much of a thinker.
"Would they die for something they knew was a lying" Well, we have to first find the evidence for each one of the disciple's death...which we don't have. Peter, Mathew, John, Andrew, Philip, all of them, simply dissapears in the line of history, if all of them even existed.