Stop Calling Jesus a good teacher: He was either a Madman, a Conman, or God: you choose.
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- You can say Jesus was many things, but stop saying he was just a good teacher, or a philosopher, or a nice guy. There are only three choices: madman, conman or God.
Who is Jesus? A philosopher, a spiritual sage, an all around good guy, a great moral teacher? According to C.S. Lewis, there are only three options, and we have to make our choice: Madman, Conman or God. A beggar's take on Lewis' trilemma argument.
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Before watching this, I was a Christian. But after watching this, with an open mind, and careful consideration
I’m still a christian
damn you tricked me
Amen stay strong, the person who made this video made everything up and is spreading lies. It’s clear he is spreading hate
honestly if religion keep people from doing sins and do good things told by the "bible", they can keep it that way, ill be on my own not having a god to believe in
@@Einzeilhandery you do you-\_(:/)
I would rather live my life as if there is a god and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. - Albert Camus
To be fair, no lunatic would raise a man from the dead, heal those who are dying, and raise from the dead himself.
That's why they make stories about it, or make others create these stories.
Yes and he also do not talk like a lunatic, his words make sense, and are deeper than some of what was commonly known and thaught about.
Like when says if you only love those who love you what is there special in it ?
Today, we are used to hear his teachings but back then it would have been like a light a new light shinning for these people.
Plus, let be honest even if we have known these for a long time we still act " normal " by loving those who love us and hate those who hate us.
In practice, his teachings are still way ahead of our maturity as humans.
Quite a bit farfetched to say that a lunatic teachings would be so still 2000 years after.
@@paonippobemduro
The Apostle Paul persecuted the Christians and one day after he turned into probably the best Christian ever, wrote most part of the New Testament ?
Why would someone who hate Christ and Christians so much not your common militant atheist, but to the point of Killing them, would invent that Jesus appeard to him in a vision and then why would he go on to spread ( like no one before him) the very thing he tried to eradicate ?
Did Jesus made him say that to ? If was just a mere man ?
Could you imagine Hitler after starting to persecute the jews lie about Yaweh appearring to him and then become the greatest rabbi ever ?
@@dodleymortune4312 yeah, and why would Yeshua strike him blind? that's never EVER happened in all the other times God sent a message. and yeshua is the same man that made the blind see, the deaf hear, and the dead rise. paul totally made it up
@@paonippobemduro
Ah , yes , because everyone would make up those stories when they can EASILY be refuted or require CENTURIES to develop and when BELIEVING ON THEM WOULD LEAD TO PERSECUTION , POVERTY , TORTURE AND DEATH .
Atheism requires a denial of Human behaviour and basic Logic .
To me he is the Son of God. I saw him in my dream when I was calling him to help me when some satanists wanted me to join their cult. He appeared with an intense light like I had never seen before. One more anecdote, a Christian friend of mine, was praying for me on the very same day this dream occurred.
You have been blessed by the Lord, cherish this. God bless you, even if he already has.
More lies from Christians lol
Satanists??? Can you give me more details?
There aren't a whole lot of Satanists in the world. And no, politicians aren't satanists. They are assholes though.
@@chill_orange8374 they’re out there. Look up the convention they recently held in Boston. All we can do is pray for them.
This guy is underated
So true I got so many of my christen friends to watch him
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IKR
Yea very.
Yes I wish a lot more people see this
These videos are perfect for my teenage kids. It helps reinforce the church's teachings and defend against the secular thoughts of the world. But it's not preachy, and it's totally on their level too. Thank you so much.
Thank you! Peace.
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@@gorb_oron i want some to destroy islamic view of jesus because i am an atheist from hindu family
just another echo chamber channel
@@gorb_oron I'll bite. What are some.
I share your videos with non-believing family and friends. They’re excellent tools for Evangelizing. You’re doing the Lord’s work. Glory to Jesus, and God bless you!
Amen. Thanks for the shares. And God bless you friend. 🙏
@@imbeggar you made exellent logical resoning on the subject, good job friend.
BUT: there is one thing you did not disscus that would make the whole argument perfect:
you did not clarify the point at (2:01)!
Christianity is source of misunderstanding
@@aryabartarout5697 humanity is the source of misunderstanding , all religion followers have something they misunderstand, as well as all types of groups of people (Race,family,village,city,country) its human nature not a religion specific nature . Even the gender confusion and gender war happening in western social media that affects a lot of young people is also not a gender problem, no its not all men nor all women who are the problem its a human problem.
@@MineCraft-nz9pg do you know what is a humanity, humanity means do right things, love other's, be kind to other's. it's all religions and cultures who is sources of all misunderstanding, humanity and science are light to humans. it is always a religion which discriminate races. humanity and religion are different things.
I'm not religious, but I really like your videos about how you analyse all of this. That is absolutely respectable. Thank you for your well thought out and put together videos.
I hope you do well in life😊
same i dont feel unwelcomed just because i aint a christian
Jesus isn’t a religion. It’s literally the opposite but the devil has convinced the masses otherwise.
@@jacksonrelaxin3425 so how do you know Jesus is real, and your christian god is real, since there had been 4200 religions till date?🤣
@@alishbista1748 by default there can only be one God. Other people claiming to have their own gods or to be gods themselves do not disprove this.
as a born Muslim Woman, had seen him in my dreams asked him why I suffer and struggle so much always, he said that how much he suffered and made him struggled ,,, he said : „ Me, Jesus, the son of God „ then I said to him : „ I am sorry you suffered for us, I am for ever your servant“ he is one and ONLY glory directly from GOD ✨✨
If you believe that then you are not Muslim .. and all Muslim believe that this is all lies he is just a prophet. God sent him to be a messenger of him ..
@@awsjad4526 She said she is a "born Muslim Woman", doesnt neccessarily mean she is still Muslim, eg. I was born/raised a Catholic however now I am a Christian that is dependant on Scripture alone.
@@__________________________5338 ,Do you think the gospels are 100% corresponding to reality?
if not 90%, 75%; 50%, in other words
if you have a time machine would you say that the events would occurred just as the gospels stated they happened, mostly similar, mostly different.
@@a.39886 Mostly yeah. Some parts arent meant to be taken literally and the KJV might have some mistranslations and some stuff cant be understood in plain English, thats we always have to take a look at the oldest, Greek versions of them. They are the most reliable.
@@__________________________5338 so for example how sure you feel about the claim he walked on water do you think it happened or maybe not?
We need more videos/articles like these using logic to reinforce the teachings. Instead of telling people “just have faith” or “ignore those thoughts” addressing the doubts and anxieties using logic is far more effective and calming than being told to ignore it. I feel many people have become atheists because their questions weren’t properly addressed and they eventually lost faith. Science doesn’t contradict religion and not every single word and statement in the Bible is meant to be taken at face value. Once people understand those two facts and then are taught the logical explanations their faith will remain strong.
@@Shadow11550 Yeah exactly. Everyone has doubts, even the people who literally followed Jesus, and even John. But in the end, through critical thinking and reasoning, we can see what is true. Jesus is our Lord and Savior, as he is the Son of God.
@@CatThwomper i wouldn't really say that that's the concrete answer. We just don't have enough proof to determine whether god is real or not
@@CezarWasTaken Oh, I wasn't giving a concrete answer though. I was more so talking about how I feel people should stop saying "Just have faith" to a person who clearly doesn't believe. I find it pointless, like trying to tell a normal person the earth is flat, then giving one point of reason, being "Just trust me"
@@CatThwomper ohh, sorry for the misunderstanding then. Yes that's genuinely a problem that's way too common nowadays and even for a non-believer as myself I find these videos really fascinating and informative, always great to learn about how people portray aspects of reality differently
Sorry again for potentially wasting your time, have a good day
Apologetics isn't new! There is vast literature out there to enjoy
Your videos make me cry everytime. I'm so glad I found this channel. God bless and thank you ❤️
God bless you and thank you! Peace.
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@@imbeggar Oh god there is no god😂
@@doodoo8310sure buddy
@@doodoo8310 let that be what you believe
I could feel Gods presence during the end of this video. Thank you :)
An interesting wager, I’m riding with the God route. Praise be the lord Christ Jesus
Honestly I already have accepted him to be the son of god. I barely starting to read the Bible and accept god into my life for good 😌 Thank you 🙏 for your video. They have always brought me back to god. Each time I started to distance my myself, you always released a video that brought the idea back. May god bless your following years 🙏
Hi, what did "Son of God" mean according to the JEWS at that Historical time, according to the Historical Culture?
Jn5:18:Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.
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@@redpill-eroftruth7443 To Jews, a random dude came from a lame town and said "I'm the son of God". Now, to them, he's just a lier spreading misinformation, because the REAL son of God would bring down Rome. They misinterpreted the scripture though, and they thought they were doing God a favor by killing the man that was lying to so many people. They failed to realize they made a terrible mistake.
The interesting and honestly amazing thing about this is that God didn't strike them down and condemn them to eternal suffering because they killed his son. That's how merciful God is. Holy crap
@@redpill-eroftruth7443 Do you think the gospels are 100% corresponding to reality?
if not 90%, 75%; 50%, in other words
if you have a time machine would you say that the events would occurred just as the gospels stated they happened, mostly similar, mostly different.
@thepillows123 *God Amen 🙏
After listening to your videos multiple times, you make being or becoming a Christian very simple and understandable. I'm a Catholic, like you, and wish you would teach priests how easy, uncomplicated it is to explain who God and Jesus is in our lives and in the world.
You make Him real and alive in my life. God bless you. And thank you for such thoughtful provoking videos.
W.
Hi! I feel compelled to share this to you from the LORD. This is not meant to be rude but just to open your eyes. You say you are Catholic. Are you aware that Catholicism is riddled with false, man made doctrine? In the Book of Revelation, 'Mystery Babylon the Great' is a symbol of the Roman Catholic Church, as it also describes it as a city on 'seven hills'. In Revelation 18:4 the LORD himself calls for his people to come out of her so as to not receive the plagues. Ultimately in the end times tribulation, Rome and the Vatican will be destroyed by his wrath. Revelation even says that it will take only an hour for its destruction.
@@brianpraetzel5873 Yep, you're right. God let His Church go astray for 1500 years until Martin Luther set things right.
You see how ridiculous that sounds?
No, the whore of Babylon is not the Catholic Church. It's the Jewish leaders who cooperated with the Roman Empire (the beast) trying to stamp out the early Christians, and the beast turning on the whore is the Judean war of 66-70 AD that ended with the final destruction of the temple in Jerusalem.
Pope Francis, along with all previous popes, proclaims that Jesus is God on a regular basis. No anti-Christ person or organization would ever do that.
@@brianpraetzel5873I guess I'm not a normal catholic since I never knew about "Mistery Babylon The Great" until now and I don't replace Jesus with the Virgin Mary and won't pray to saints anymore, only Jesus Christ The Lord and God.
@@ChristianKnight-1054 We are seeing what Revelation describes unfold before our very eyes as the pope leads people astray by accepting culture and the ways of the world rather than the truth of God's word and the true gospel of Jesus Christ. Revelation says that the false prophet and antichrist will be thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.
Atheist: I don’t believe in god. If he IS real, he can send me to hell for all I care
God: I respect your opinion
Atheist: HA…wait…
According to most evangelical interpretations I’d have great company there. Socrates, Gandhi, Mother Theresa …
@@kirtmanwaring3629 well if you wanna dig into that in hell you cannot communicate with people because it is a gift brother. everyone suffers on their own. you cannot possibly imagine one good thing that is in hell
As an atheist I love this video. I love how you're not forcing anyone to praise Jesus or hate him, but leaving it down to their thoughts and beliefs to decide for themself.
Had this same thing brought up in my church group recently. Nice video!
It was shown as the 3 L's: Liar, Lunatic or Lord.
Latin name, from the Fathers of the Church, for a similar basic argument:
"aut Deus aut malus homo" (Either God or a bad man"). Lewis to his credit explained that it was the same argument essentially as his trilemma. A man can be either mentally or morally wrong, or perhaps both...
I think something about this video changed something in me, I think now I believe. Thank you so much for making this, im subbing for sure
Amen. Welcome aboard. 🙏
Finally I've been waiting for so long for a new video thank you,
You make amazing content as always 👍👍
1Do you think the gospels are 100% corresponding to reality?
if not 90%, 75%; 50%, in other words
if you have a time machine would you say that the events would occurred just as the gospels stated they happened, mostly similar, mostly different.
Your videos are the best man, you’re truly doing great things by making these! I’d love to see more!
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Jesus will always be my God, my lord and savor
How will he save you, he had already been crossed.😐
@@greenshuckle so you are expecting a corpse to rise up and lead you? It has been 2000 years, your corpse never woke up.
@@greenshuckle you might as well believe you can fly, best of luck trying to jump from a building. 🤣
@@alishbista1748🤓
@@alishbista1748 He's already been resurrected. He's now in heaven. If you don't want to believe God and believe the truth. Then I'll truly be praying for you.
thank you for uploading new content, you really cure my anxiety every time I watch ur video.
I'm worrying so much about death and gone forever.
I am worried no one will wake me up after death.
thank you for convincing me high creature being is real.
thank youuuu u really mean so much for me!
you are the legend!
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To me he's definitely the son of God. He creates miracles and support people. There's evidence that He's the son of God and he's real. I promise, I have faith in God. 🙏
He is the Son of God. We number our years after him. His name has spread around the whole world. Some people don't believe that he exists, even though he clearly does. Amazing video.
He's not a son of god, but a son of human. really christians are born with low intelligence
Him being popular worldwide and his birthdate being the base of the calendar proves absolutely nothing other than the fact that he succeeding in tricking almost the whole world, which is indeed impressive
@@kramarancko1107finally someone with braincells
@@Nizaar1You mean someone with with a smooth brain?
@@kramarancko1107🤡
They fear the Divinity of Christ .They despise it so they search for every excuse they can , even when they contradict each other .Because they know the truth and know what it means on them as people .
Kind of reminds me of how Protestants treat Mary
Wouldn't the divinity of Christ need to be proven before anyone can accept it?
Please give me your best reason that you think Jesus was divine or why the bible is true. Would love to explore this topic with you.
@@charlestonguitarclinicThe Resurrection .Easy .
@@oolooo, you believe that Jesus physically resurrected from the dead, is that correct? On a scale of 0 to 100, with zero being all doubt that Jesus rose from the dead and 100 being no doubt that Jesus rose from the dead, how confident are you in this claim? What is the best reason you have for believing this is true?
@@oolooo just wondering if you still wanted to explore your claim with me. let me know. Thanks.
I sent you like a thousand comments .UA-cam erases all of them .
He was someone good that had the feeling of justice and teached love. Honestly I don't care if he was the son of God or if God even exists I only know he didn't deserve to be crucified
Well if he wasn't the son of God and was lying then he did deserve to be crucified
@5aesar Can't you imagine how unbelievable this pain is? That would be an innocent lie infront of this punishment. So you are telling me that if you cheat in your wife you deserve to go on the electric chair
@@stavros222 Not the same, claiming to be the son of God is blasphemy and if he was a liar then sure maybe not crucifixion but atleast punishment as that would also mean the miracles were lies aswell
@5aesar what blasphemy? If he wasn't the son of God it's more likely that God don't exist
@@5aesar bro... never cook again.
F*** man, you put that in the clearest, most concise possible way. Impossible to weasel yourself out of it.
And finally, a freaking place I can say this without feeling like it's being done in vain (I hate those posts on facebook).
Also, sorry if it seemed like I was too excited. I was.
I 100% believe that he is exactly who he said he is.
Yeshua is the Son of God, and the Messiah.
I dunno sounds more like a madman to me
@@ShsnsBsbdhs cool story broh
Before I discovered this video I was a Christian but then I thought more into it
I’m still a Christian
that gave me chills and had me tearing up, Jesus is Lord
Jesus is a good teacher name 1 being who is more accurate, caring, truthful with there teachings obviously you won't be able to name 1 without saying the name of Jesus
Jesus said recorded in
john 13:13
13 “You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and rightly so, for that is what I am
and you call Jesus a liar if you disbelieve and deny the fact that Jesus is the Good teacher
that's why everyone should never speak out of ignorance
which makes that whole video a lie and foolish smh
If Jesus was God he would know everything. He didn't know the hour: Matthew 24:36.
"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels, nor the son of God, but only the Father."
If Jesus was the ACTUAL not metaphorical Son of God, then EVERYONE would be the Son of God: The book of Romans 8:14.
"For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God."
@@bloswi
want to look at some scriptures here is some scriptures for you from the book of adam and eve God told adam that He would take flesh form to be among adam's descendants.
who is God in flesh form if Jesus Christ isn't God huh? yeah exactly Jesus is God you ignorant deceived blind fool God fortold Himself as Jesus Christ
you call God Himself a liar and you blasphemy God when you deny Jesus as God i hope you know and realize that you foolish believer
if you where led by the Spirit of God then you would hear Jesus speak to you and you would be led to places that are not the false church
john 10:25-30. john 5:38-44.
2 thessalonians 2:8-10. 2 thessalonians 1:8-10. titus 1:16. hebrews 10:26-27. james 2:15-25. hebrews 4:12. revelations 21:8. 1 corinthians 6:9-11. john 10:25-30. john 5:38-44. james 2:15-25
obey Jesus Christ and obey Jesus's gospel and actually get to know God Jesus Christ truly or perish in hell if you don't
@@bloswi Fun Fact: Jesus is both fully God and FULLY HUMAN, so he has characteristics of both.
Btw I'm an atheist too
@@Writer_Productions_Map Is there a verse that claims Jesus is both fully human and fully God? (Somehow)
They always help me out, thanks
I am a Non Believer. I have my reasons. I will never change until I am proven wrong - BUT I appreciate, value, and impressed with your work,. We may have different views but we`re still all the same.
Than you.
I appreciate this. Thank you. 🙏.
U should change your views to the truth
@@a.d1287 you mean everybody should follow your thruth because my truth is the truth everybody else is a liar , fraud, heretic, or broken and need fixing or billion other excuses when your disney land in your head doesn't reflect reality or sometimes even your morality.
@@a.d1287 don't force your beliefs on someone else, this is not how you do it
@@studsheepthank you for showing someone the correct way to approach this. A lot of people get it wrong.
Is that a Michael O’Brien painting I see at 3:17? That’s awesome!
God bless you my friend. Keep up the good work
I missed this one. It is! Thank you Bro. Peace.
For people who say that having a dream about Jesus or God is "just a dream" I have something to say (a lot actually) this "dream" is normally a vision not a "dream" it's a spiritual vision that people can feel someone's existence, hard to explain because I haven't experienced it, my mom did when she passed out once, she was about to die and said she saw a tunnel, she even forgot who she was, but she was calling for God anyway because that's the only thing she knew was right, and then she woke up, that was before she searched up what was an NDE (Near-death experience) and I believe her, I know it's only after I saw the same thing happening to other people, but I didn't doubt her before, my mom is very truthful, she doesn't lie about stuff like this, and even other people had the same exact thing or a little different happen to them, people doubt and say it's a coincidence, but I just think It's them wanting to doubt God's existence and not really paying attention to the truth. If you don't believe in God or what he says, give it a try, if you don't want to, it's your choice!
Yes, hallucinations, they often happen on the brink of death, like your mother.
People sure do think weird things.
This is…horrible evidence for god. I don’t doubt that your mom had that experience but there are clear, natural explanations for what caused it. Not to mention the fact people will tend to see their religion’s god in their dreams (visions).
I wasn’t even going to comment but the sheer fucking arrogance to claim that people not believing this experience came from a divine deity is because they don’t want to face “the truth” is asinine and you should feel ashamed. You have not validity to this claims and I could do that same garbage back at you: I don’t think you want to accept god isn’t real because it makes you feel better. See, now we’re both assholes!
@luckycats5671 funny then ,that all these people have extremely similar "hallucinations". If there is consistency, there is a rule. And it is a rule unknown to you and me. It is a rule of the lord.
@@Paradox1012 You do know that people can have similar or exact hallucinations? Read about it.
a mad man would break sooner or later, absolutely impossible, a liar would definitely be breaking under that much torture.. that leaves us with one option. He is the Son Of God
Cap
That’s not true. There have been much more delusions people than this alleged “madman Jesus,” and there have been much worse liars.
Uri geller
Bruh the though “do not grieve the Holy Spirit” allowed my head to get clear, and when meditating with Gods word I get the most euphoria feeling ever that NO DRUG could ever replicate.
Same for me too.
"Why do you call me good?
Only God is good."
Am not really a believer, but God, if there is a God, bless you
Ha. Thank you friend. Peace 🙏.
Interesting why don’t you believe
@@orandegellogaming4793 my brother am now a believer in God. I converted because of my mother taking me by the hand and praying for me, I felt my hope in Christ yet again and I feel in love with Lord Jesus. Thank you so much for asking
@@imbeggar Bro, God bless you abundantly, you are one of the reasons I found hope in Jesus yet again
@@richardnzekwue1043bro congrats!
Jesus is a prophet of God, he never said he was his son
“ I and the father are one.” Jn 10:30.
“I am” mk 14:62.
Mt 3:17 God calls Him His son.
Jesus forgives sins. In ancient Judaism everyone understood that only the divine can forgive sins.
@imbeggar the Bible is not a credible source, it has been corrupted and mistranslated and misunderstood to the point of no return.
@@yazeedalfrog what's your proof for this argument?
Ok but like, why can't he be a madman AND a great moral teacher? Certainly son of God and great moral teacher aren't mutually exclusive, so why wouldn't that be true for the other cases?
"why can't he be a madman AND a great moral teacher?" Because his teaching involved you worshipping him as god.
If I say 'I am the son of God' to you and then said for you to worship me after developing a cult like following, are you gonna say I'm just a good moral teacher?
I mean, I watched the video too, so I understand the argument he's trying to make. The liar option and great moral teacher probably would be mutually exclusive, but if he's just crazy, then his statements describing the nature of his existence would be genuine and not morally bankrupt. Would you call a schizophrenic person immoral for having delusions?
Despite those kinds of statements, there's a lot of parables from the bible that show Jesus being morally good and showing others how to be morally good.
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Then if you say he was a mad man who said good things( because schizophrenic people can be moral) that's an other option, but this new option do not change the point of the argument.
When one says that Jesus was a good moral teacher they are implying that he was not out of his mind, but that he is not God.
If one says that he was mad but he thought good things, no one will oppose this because based on the idea that someone who has mental problem can not do and say good things, but what would tell you is that since he was crazy, you can not follow him as he said: the ultimate master of your life, because despite all the good things this crazy person would have said: dont kill, dont steal, etc. He still would have said some aburds things like: I existed before Abraham, I am life, I will judge the world, I will resurect the dead, I am the only begotten son of God, etc.
So even if this same person could say some things it would still be dangerous to follow him IF the shoking phrases he said are not true. A tyrant like Hitler could say some good things also.
So, to say that Jesus could have been a madman but still a good teacher, is just the same thing as option A of the video, but only said in a nicer way.
That's just a sugarcoated version of Option A.
He explains it in the video, if a man goes around and gains a cult like following and then says he is son of god. That would just be a madman.
Jesus is actual historic character
Thank you!!!
This is FAN-TAS-TIC ❤❤❤❤ i wanna show this to so many non-believers...
Yeshua forever 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Please Do! Peace.
I already have!! And will continue to 😉 i think your videos speak truth to the lost human heart . Wonderful work
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Why did you say this? What kind of unjustified presupposition is this? I am a Christian but if you are trying to argue about GOD, do it. 1. You can be a good moral teacher and still be wrong about something. 2. Also, there are Muslim Martyrs. Are they correct?
They THINK they are correct. They weren't there.
The Apostles, now? I've been to the archaeological dig under Saint Peter's 16th century "modern" Basilica.
They archaeologists first found, as expected, the ruins of a basilica built by the Emperor Constantine in the 4th century A.D., then a 2nd century inconspicuous monument, covered in Peter-related graffitti (referenced in contemporary Christian literature as marking Peter's tomb). Below that was a 1st century grave, empty but for a niche containing wrapped bones missing the feet. Hypothesis: traditionally Peter asked to be crucified upside down, and soldiers in a hurry might hack them off the awkward dead body of a robust elderly man? I mean, we don't have his dental records to uh, cross check, but that's not BAD as ancient historical/archaeological evidence goes.
Hey, maybe Julius Caesar was a sun-myth and the Gauls had the gall to spontaneously surrender to one squad of legionaries without a fight? There's just no such thing as (ghost written?) bad publicity. Maybe? Not.
Thoughts?
Just subscribed to your channel! went to church & the sermon was on Matthew 16-18, He is around every corner and I am loving it!
This was the video that popped up on my feed one day a while ago and what ultimately pushed me over the edge to converting. Best choice ever.
Can’t waut for the one on Mohamed. That guy did have a lot to earn from being recognized as a prophet. It sololidified his grip on power.
Yes, he is god.
Got serious chills at the last part
This is what sold me on Jesus. You can not call him a “good teacher” or a prophet. He didn’t claim anyone of those. He’s either God or a blasphemer
This scares me more than it should
@@DudeNamedDuncan will do
GREATEST MAN OF ALL TIME
You’re doing incredible things for our Lord. Thank you
1:47 c is always the correct answer
Jesus was a carpenter. There. Solved it for you.
I feel like there's a fourth option here, and it's that he was talking about being the son of god in a more symbolic way and using the analogy of his father, aka God, wanting what's best for his child as a way to reach the people he was teaching on a more personal level.
That is not an option if you understood the original language the Scriptures was written.
When Jesus alluded to the religious leaders that he had seen Abraham they were baffled. A 30 year old in his time could never have seen Abraham who died thousands of years ago. Jesus replied to them "Before Abraham was, I AM" and they immediately sought to kill him
I AM was a name God addressed himself to Moses when he was in the Burning Bush. So saying I AM Jesus was being VERY clear and literal to the Jewish leaders that he outright claimed to be GOD
@@ReiseLukas ah, see I was raised Mormon, and while I was in the church we didn’t read the Bible a whole lot so I never really read it but they talked about the BoM a lot and the Book of Mormon is a gross deformation of original Christian lore
@@allforone2544 Ah yes, the Church of Latter Day Saints. Aka, Satan’s second Islam. Glad to see you got out.
@@JahJah-CleverHandle yeah, I left because I don’t like they way their flip floppy on who’s allowed and who isn’t, and their view on the LGBTQ+ community in general.
The argument that I think was lost here is that the Bible has been edited so many times, and the oldest actual Bible text is from several centuries after his death, we really have no clue how much of the story has been lost or changed
Incredible video, the visuals, audio and script are so well done and go along so well
"My lord my God" John 20:28
Glory to God.
God bless, you’re spreading the truth and I love that about your channel❤
I really thought that this would be just some video basically mocking Christians or just spreading around false information by the thumbnail and title and well- I am really happy to have been proven incorrect. This was a surprisingly introspective and neutral video on this idea, this gave me a moment to reflect upon my faith and while I've always believed the third option- its nice to see something like this. Thank you for the reflection.
these videos hit deeper then they prbly should
awww yeah new imbeggar video 🙌🏻
it is possible to both be very morally intelligent and be kinda easily influenced to think you are god
I already knew this argument and it is very good, but it is even more complete.
Was Jesus a liar?: No, because knowing that they were going to kill him he would have confessed his lie.
He was mad? No, because he speaks like someone who is rational, besides that when the teachers of the law, the Pharisees wanted to accuse him, he always answered correctly and did not fall into any of their traps, they did not even dare to ask him again. In addition to the fact that if he were a madman, people would not follow him, they would notice, much less die for a madman.
So the only answer is that He was the Son of God.
I wouldn’t say he was mad, rather he believed what he was preaching. this is black and white way of thinking, if It is not A must be B might give you false conclusions.
This argument makes no sense
You know its good when he says "Think of it this way.."
Those who claimed to be Jesus are saying blasphemy, don't let them fool you
Edit: I have no idea who Jesus really looks like
I'm genuinely speechless. This video asks such a valid and interesting question, which many people don't consider about Jesus himself. The quality of the video as well is stunning so please keep up the great videos!
I love ur rationalizing, it lets nonbelievers side with you for a bit then ur like.. well yea thats just rationalizing its not true. Its so powerful.
This is one of the many reasons I’ve always considered CS Lewis absolutely brilliant. He appeals to the rational side of the argument for Christianity. His book, Mere Christianity, is still one of the best books written, period.
Your content is SO great, thank you, and God bless you
your videos are always the best, you should make a video about mary next
Do you think the gospels are 100% corresponding to reality?
if not 90%, 75%; 50%, in other words
if you have a time machine would you say that the events would occurred just as the gospels stated they happened, mostly similar, mostly different. 34
@@a.39886 I'm agnostic now lol
@@Oromato96 Do you believe something Godly is related with the bible?
Applying probability to the equation there is a higher chance of him NOT being the son of god than him being the son of god. So by that logic, how do you know you're not praying to someone who was one of the first two
Same argument can be said about many people really
Lured me in and increased my understanding of not just Christianity but the world it self.
It's still not enough to deem it black and white as to not include the option being a good teacher.
Some of the most influential scientists in the world were delusional in their own way.
The moral compass is extremely complicated and can haunt people to lie for a delusional greater good.
He is God but can I still say that he taught me how to be a better man?
yeah
By not stopping himself from getting crossed?🤣
@alishbista1748 The death of Jesus was seen as "Gods will" and a "fulfilment" of the messianic prophecies. Jesus didnt necessarily "want" to die on the cross, as he did pray in the garden of Gethsemane to die another death, It was written that Jesus stress was so intense that he was sweating "drops of blood" which is scientifically and medically possible under extreme stress. Although the crucifixion is one account/theory, other documents say he escaped crucifixion, or ascended to heaven or made it appear as if he died on the cross but never did. Some accounts even record Judas on the cross.
You deserve way more subs bro these are really cool!
Amen. Thanks man.
Love your vids 💚💚 after my belief in Jesus solidified, your videos gave a lot of thought about a lot of different surrounding topics. God bless 🕊️
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Jesus is both God and a Good Teacher (since he teaches us good morals and more)
I was an atheist for around 10 years, I was mad at religions and gods and the division in people caused. You’ll get over it.
The fact that Jesus Christ came to this earth to destroy religion is what motivates me to follow him. Every other belief seems centered on "Religion" - as if you're a slave and there's a static higher power indifferent to your existence, caring only about his name. But the real God, you ask? He came to this earth not to selfishly propagate his name but to spread love among us. God became human, not rich or powerful, born in a barn to a poor family in the abandoned and forgotten city of Nazareth. *TO SPREAD LOVE.*
Just discovered this. Just shared this on FB.
You're really a great interpretator. It's way easy to understand some things with your channel. God Bless.
Thanks for this stuff man, very knowledgeable now, me equals smart man 👨🏾
Ha! Awesome. Thank you.
Then there's the fourth option
When Jesus claimed to be God incarnate, although he was telling the truth, he isn't unique in that regard
We are all God. The only thing that set Jesus apart is that he was one of the few people who knew it
He never claimed to be the *only* son of God. And I believe God to be the sum of all things that builds itself from within through its parts. The son is indeed the father as all is one. What distinguishes Jesus is that he thought and acted the part.
Your videos are incredible! I love so much the contrast between your monotone way of talking and the rich and vibrant content of the videos!
I'm going with option C. Even if it costs me, and even if I gain the ire and the mocking laughter of much of the world (especially in the West these days).
I’m right there with you friend. 🙏
The West is Satan's home given form. All the atheists there are either possessed by his minions or influenced by him
lot of people go option C because there is an innate fear of an eventual end to humans.
Have you ever watched the film "The shack" or read the book? It was very enlightening and thought me that no matter what has been, loving someone unconditionally like Jesus loved our Father and all of us could never be wrong.
Respectfully, I think the shack is new age rubbish - read the Bible and you'll see what I mean.
God's not dead he's surely alive 🙏♥️✝️
Imagine how screwed up our knowledge of history would be if we applied the same amount of skepticism to every other historical document as we do the Bible.
christians making up their own happiness
Why wouldn't you do this? It would be ridiculous to judge wizard the same way as we would an engineer. Bible has much higher burden than usual historical texts.
@@whelperw Most historical figures of the ancient world didn’t have any records written of them until 1 or 2 hundred years after they died. Alexander the Great had no written records untill 500 years after his death, for Jesus it was 50. This is where most people say that the disciples made everything up to benefit from starting a false religion, but they had literally no reason to do so. They had absolutely nothing to gain and everything to lose. Because of what they taught their friends and family scorned them, the Jews and Romans stole their social standing, possessions, and political privileges, they were imprisoned, whipped, tortured, exiled, crucified, eaten by lions, and cut to death by gladiators. People die for stuff they think is true all the time, but no one would ever die for something they knew was a lie, and the odds of ever single disciple being insane or having a hallucination is essentially zero, so I don’t see any reason why not to trust the New Testament. Did you even watch the video? Because I’m just rewording what it said.
This is an extra powerful one. Thank you... G_D is great indeed. 🙇♀️🕊🌾
God is great!
Why put an _ before the G and D? Only Jews do that, just call him God.
This video needs to be heard.
Love these videos, they've been opening my mind in ways I hadn't considered before. Everything makes a lot of sense to me with one question I haven't seen an answer to. What differentiates Jesus from others who claim to be the son of God? How can we say that they are liars when they too have cult followings of people who say they believe them, have seen them perform miracles, and in certain cases are even willing to die for them. No disrespect but I genuinely would like to know, this might warrant its own video.
Yo sorry that nobody has responded to this until now.
The way that we differentiate Him from other figures with "cult followings" is that what He did was so incredibly public. For instance, Mohammed said that he received all of the writings of the Quran from an angel who visited him, who nobody else ever saw. The Buddha, (don't know much about Buddhist history so this might be slightly inaccurate, but I think it still applies), was a moral teacher who privately found the secret to enlightenment and taught it to everyone.
The things that Christ were have said to have done were in no way private, and either every single aspect of the stories had to have been made up or He actually did them. You can't make up a guy feeding 5000 people by duplicating pieces of bread and fish. You can't make up a guy publicly healing blind people, or completely changing the sky when He died, or turning water to wine for a whole party, or any of the other Miracles that Christ was said to have done. Christ is unique and apart from all other major religious figures in this aspect.
Jesus is unique because he resurrected from the dead.
How do we know this is a real possibility? All the reasons in the video.
No body found, no way to start a religion with that ridiculous claim unless something was going on, and even more rediculous to actually convince people about it.
Whats even more crazy is that people were willing to die about it. Religious cultists are always being given a chance to denounce their faith before they get killed. This way you can stop the cult and keep the order.
But the apostles didn't betray Jesus. They truly believed and they were eye witnesses to the facts.
It's because he was raised from the dead, then preached to thousands of people afterward. It was the fact that this man who claimed to be God, was raised up fro, the grave by God, that it was confirmed beyond a shadow of a doubt to all the deciples and his followers that he was who he said he was. We know this actually happened because of the early christians' creed, and because the deciples were willing to die horrible deaths preaching christ. Normally, people don't die horrid deaths for something they know was a lie.
@@AspiringSaint more than bread, who impregnated mary, so Jesus was born?🤣
@@alishbista1748 she was impregnated by divine will.
Thank you. Very powerful ministry. Well done.
GOD loves you all, GOD bless you all in JESUS name Romans10-9:12 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him." Luke 13-2:3""Do you suppose that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things? 3| tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish."have trust and faith in GOD✝️❤️🍞🍷‼️‼️
The simple fact of the matter is that we do not even know if Jesus existed or not. At least the person portrayed in the gospels. And that is the only place we have reports of what he said. The gospels certainly have all the trappings that would indicate literary device and construction, mythology. So I believe the honest person (this includes you Christians) can only say “I don’t know.”
fair enough.
But we have more writing on Jesus Christ than most 1st century historical figures, there's no question a guy named Jesus existed. The question is was He the Guy, the Great I AM, or just a random.
But it’s basically confirmed at this point the Jesus indeed exist and was a living breathing man that walked the earth. It’s even considered a “fringe theory” amongst them to say otherwise that Jesus didn’t exist.
It’s actually now in fact harder to argue he didn’t exist than it is that he did with all the information we have of him and historical accounts.
@@HopefulRain you need to re-read what I posted. There is certainly a high probability that a person named Jesus existed at that time, and in that place. It was a very common name. But the Jesus portrayed in the Gospel stories, the miracle worker, the person supposedly born of a virgin, etc. Of this we do not know and we have no way of knowing.
@@klutchedup9 we have no contemporaneous corroboration that the Jesus portrayed in the gospel stories existed. It is only a half a century after his supposed existence that we have writings detailing his life. And those writings are anonymous. They are written in advanced Greek, most likely in Rome. So we have no first hand accounts of Jesus by eyewitnesses.
I KNOW THE TRUTH. Hes just a liar. He fooled the dumb by duplicating fish or some, then he faked his death and resurrection. He was never crucified (which would have led him to certain death). He instead drank from a sponge which caused him temporary death (THIS IS IN THE THE BIBLE BTW mathew something, searched on the internet its like 27:48) and then they didnt crucify him because he was already dead, and they put him in the coffin. He then just got out and went to india and then tibet, and his true death site is somewhere in tibet where a guard watches 24/7 his grave. Many bs was made up during the church rise for political reasons and the bible has been rewritten 80k times, so anyone could have added some.
Fr? 80k times? 💀🤣 That's sus. Obviously people have changed something according to their own convinie. And still people believe Jesus out of all the remaining religions
it has been rewritten all those times and yet one constant remains. why?
@@Jesusyes-um6no which constant?
All those things aren't mutually exclusive, I believe we have enough historical evidence to know he existed, or at least to make that the most probable possibility, so let's get that out of the way. Now was he a liar, a conman or the son of God? Well, he knew that was he was doing was dangerous, and given the way he is described I believe he is not very likely to be a complete liar, so that leaves us with two options. I personally think he was in a way a madman. I do not think that makes him a bad person in any way, in fact, I think he was a pretty good man. I just think we have no good evidence of the existence of any god or gods, and the word of a single man isn't enough to change my opinion. I believe Jesus had good intentions, and even if he was lying, even if that was true, I say that only makes him more admirable, because sacrificing yourself to promote a certain moral code knowing completely well that there is no heaven for you is something I can only admire and respect. So I do think he was a good man, probably a bit of a madman, maybe even a liar, but I don't think he was the son of God, and if you think I am disrespecting him then I guess I am, but that was not my intention.
I’d say he’s both, a great teacher and the son of god, it would be stupid to think all of the New Testament was just Jesus saying “I’m the son god”
Very well said.
Another one people like to call him is “oh, he’s a great prophet but that’s all. Muslims use this one a lot.
As a hindu , i can understand his words from the hindu perspective. He was not a liar , not a madman. What he said was entirely true. He is the son of god , so does every living beings are. He is the father(god), so does everyone are. Hinduism teaches we all are part of god, but only great souls can realise it. So jesus was a great man , great teacher who realised he is a part of god. But he preached to an uncivilised society that so he couldnt tell every human beings are chldren of god.
well personally i dont think even a good hindu can come back to life. i mean there was several eye witnesses. the proof of christianity seems to outweigh all other religions
@@user-hm1nc5jo5x It is possible for some yogis who practised advanced yoga. It is said they can leave body and come back after sometime. Some people say 3 days is the limit, after that they will lose connection and cannot come back to body. I believe jesus knew yoga and he got spiritual powers, so he left body and came back within 3 days.
@@akshays949 wow. id like to ask how come we havent found any other hindu like this.
@@akshays949 also its said that he was stabbed in the heart after he was confirmed dead. if he was a hindu he would have been extremely close to whatever God you have.
@@user-hm1nc5jo5x Many hindus consider jesus as a great spiritual master and many also believe jesus and buddha are manifestations of god. Most hindus have great respect towards them
Praise Jesus, and thank you for your channel and this video. Liked and subscribed. This is a great argument for truth
All glory to God 🙏
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