I just got a z400 and it keeps up with 600's, grasnted im not dsoing highway pulls and shit like that, and i dont plan too, but its a great bike for me at least.
@@PtchersWR there’s no way ur 44hp z400 is keeping up with 115+hp 600 class, maybe ur friends didn’t wanna push a new rider that hard? I personally wouldent leave a new rider in the dust, because there gonna want to chase you and may meet there limitations of skill
Nice topic that never gets old. I think a 600 is OK to start on. It's like learning to drive in a manual shifting Corvette. It can be done, but it might be a little scary at times. A 600 will match a Corvette in acceleration up to about 140-150. After that, the Vette will pull away. Just learn the basics before you get too carried away with the speed.
After about 150 mph, a 700 hp Vette will not be far behind a 600 cc bike and will overtake the bike pull away. The car has a significantly higher top speed. Once in the 150's 600's run out of breath and accelerate slowly.
11:52 , my favorite part of the video. Every time there's a death in the bike community, it gets me in the feels. Value your life over validation, you don't need to prove to anyone how fast you can go without wrecking. Be safe, be aware of your surroundings, and wear gear... please. Something as simple as a helmet can save your life, we all care about you.
I started on my current r6 never rode a bike before and I can say with the right mindset you can learn on a 600 never even took out a moped, it’s just self control I treated mine like a moped for the first 4 months never pushed any limits until I learned the basics but for most people getting sport bike sadly get it for the adrenaline rush and get lost in it especially younger riders
Exactly, the only question i ever ask a new rider thinking about getting a 600, is "can you control yourself", if the answer is yes, get the 600, if its "maybe" get a 400.
I bought a 2020 R6 in January, just got my permit. It's my first bike, but I'm fully aware of how powerful my bike is and how easy I could lose control. At 22 years old, I can confidently say I have the discipline to take baby steps before I even consider doing anything crazy (18 year old me would have been too impatient looking back, so I'm happy I took more time to mature) As of this post, the weather in my state is warming up enough for me to practice in my neighborhood at low speeds in 1st & 2nd gear, along with getting comfortable with counter steering at slow turns. I have the R6 set to B mode, and I plan on practicing for another two weeks before taking it on the main roads (Won't take the freeway until I'm comfortable). I didn't get pressured by anyone to buy an R6, it was my choice. Edit: You can start on any bike you want, but you have to understand the risks. If your ego is not in check, you could get yourself killed, or someone else. You'll also have a longer time getting comfortable with learning how to ride on a 600 compared to a 300 or 250.
As a 35 year old, there isn't a difference in maturity between an 18yr old and a 22yr old, especially for dudes. You're still starting to peak with your reaction times and testosterone. So the chances of erratic choices is still going to be present, not a knock, just a feature of growing up; kind of like young lions establishing themselves. You will have peaked around 33-36 and start reversing those attributes of reaction times & testerone ~40, then there's no choice to mature and slow down If I was 22 again, I would start on a 400, perfect every technique for a year and then get on to anything I want. You've got time and potential, use it to the fullest. Good luck 😎
@@hyedefinition1080 That's what I was thinking reading that. Like is an 18 year old really that incredibly different in maturity to a 21 year old? I have a coworker who's 23 that bought a ZX6R and is already looking at a 1000cc motorcycle. He's saying its his midlife crisis because he's sure he's halfway there already. Thinking like that maybe he really is.
@@hyedefinition1080 I think that depends on what you go through in life. I can confidently say that 18 year old me was a fucking moron, and 23 year old me got two raises in one month, works two jobs, balances the gym, riding, friends, family and a relationship all at once. Like a normal adult basically lmao. But nonetheless, maturity isn’t based on time. It’s based on experience, falter, and whatever the universe throws at you throughout certain years. Shit happens to everyone differently. I’m not tryna come at you or anything, but being someone who has gone through so much, and knowing people who have gone through worse, I can confidently claim that I am far different than 18 year old me and idk if I’d want anyone taking away that credit from me. As dumb as that may sound, idk… life isn’t the same at my 23 as it was at YOUR 23 is another great example as to how we, as humans, shouldnt judge someone’s maturity based off age, not entirely anyway.
Ik it’s a lot I typed lmao, you don’t gotta read it, but if you care or wonder why the original author may feel like he’s far more mature than he was at 18, perhaps this offers insight ig
@@billyjoe1839 Absolutely agree with your statement regarding maturity based on experiences. I'll give some info about my life to back that up... I grew up in a household that was very stable with two loving, supporting parents. Ever since I can remember, I've always struggled socializing with my age range due to my diagnosis of ADHD in my early childhood, which made me an easy target for bullying throughout my K-12 experience. It wasn't that bad to be honest looking back since the lack of a large social circle allowed me more time to do things I had interests in, along with learning good habits and work ethic by starting work at 14 years old. Graduated and dropped out of college a year into it after not feeling it was the right path. I'm currently working for a pharmaceutical company, in a position that requires an undergraduate degree to be considered, and just had an interview for a coordinator position at the same company. I'm very fortunate to be in where I am today, as most 22 year olds are drowning in student loans, car loan they can't afford, and credit card debt because they were told from an early age that "Everybody does it, so don't worry". Dropping out of college forced me to grow up a lot faster than I wanted to, because there were only two choices... Sink or swim. I don't go clubbing or bar hopping as I see it as an easy escape from the everyday stresses that you kick down the road. I've probably opened up a little too much, but it is what it is.
I started on a ninja 400. And only a few months I went to a zx-10r and I love it. Glad I started small but honestly was a waste of $ if I could go back. Wish I woulda got a 600. I would probably still have it but always wanted a liter bike and I don’t regret anything.
I have an 04 R1, it’s an interesting machine..the low rpm’s feels like a 600, around 6k starts to feel like a 750, and around 9 is when it becomes a 1000 lol, and the top end pull on the 04-06 is one of the most insane. 1st gear will do exactly 100
I love this video. Thanks for sharing your opinion and advice. I have no riding experience, I’ve never ridden a motorcycle before. I’ve been told good starter options are Ninja 400 or an R3. Bikes seem so scary to ride and I definitely don’t trust myself in the way that I don’t want more power than I can handle. I’m also gonna need to take the safety course to get the basics down and understand the mechanics and how the clutch works.
I started on a 2009 R6 and within a season I had an 2015 R1. What a waste of money! With all the driving aids, ABS and riding modes a 1000 can be as tame as 600. I didn't or couldn't sell the 600. Lots of fun memories like my first crash on black ice and over that winter I spent some wrench time with her. Now it's a 3 way marriage and "till death do we part"
Honestly the best thing you can do is start on a small cc hone your skills and work your way up. From a financial standpoint I also understand some don’t want to buy multiple bikes. I also believe it depends on the individual as well. Some people (even current riders) don’t belong on a bike lol
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I bought my first bike, a 300, abs bought my 600 3 months later. Used both at the same time depending on where I was going. City-300 got errands,etc; Highway-600, mostly joy riding
I started on an R6 I grew up ripping dirt bikes so it wasn't like I had no idea what I was doing. But you cannot compare the 2 lol 600cc is gnarly! I will say though the lack of power in the bottom end of the R6's if you were to start on one definitely helps when learning all I can say is respect the bike don't get on it and practice the basics.
Learning on a Dirt Bike is the only way I would approve getting 600cc as a first Street Bike. But all in all it is about respect for the machine and awareness of your skills as much as your surroundings. Nice video, great advice and Sweet Bike.
I learned on a 400cc dirtbike and had a 10 year gap, then got my first street bike, a Ducati 999. Then got my second bike 2 months later, a zx6r. 5 months now, haven't dropped either.
After minibikes as a kid, my first was a 700 Magna. Tons of power and speed. Raced several 600 rockets and beat them. Riding a 1800 cruiser now that’s fast but heavy. Debating a 1000 rocket now. Having to relearn riding at higher speeds and traffic. Baby steps. Everything in moderation. Keep the shiny side up boys. 😉
I started on a 200cc Chinese Enduro last year and now have a cbr600 f4i that I'll be learning this year, I still have no plans to get rid of my 200cc, it's been an absolute blast and I will continue to torture it and myself off road, the 600 will for sure command more respect as I know it can do another of damage if I don't respect the power, going from 14hp to about 100hp
I always say to anyone asking about a 600/1000 starter bike under the guise "I'll control myself"-- it isn't about you necessarily killing yourself because a responsible person can do this and do it safely but it will 100% hamper your skill development because so much is going to go in controlling that beast rather than learning to push a smaller CC bike and enjoy a regular learning curve. People that start small and work on skills grow into larger bikes and can actually have tons of fun on them and end up being good riders. You don't realize the bad habits you will pick up doing the reverse. And nobody in the advanced rider community anywhere thinks a dude with 2 inch chicken strips on a BMW S1000RR is cool, but a dude who can outride a group on a Ninja 400 at the track is regarded as cool AF.
This is the best advice for any new rider who wants to start on a 600. Even if you have experience on dirt bikes, you should still start on a r3 or ninja 400 just to be safe and get used to the street bikes rather than the dirt bikes. Like you mentioned, just be safe if you decide to start on a r6.
Finally convinced a friend of mine to get a bike and get got an R3. He’s a 100% beginner. After seeing how rough it is to be a complete noob, there is no way someone like that should be on a 600. He already nearly yeeted himself over a hill. And dropped the bike in his driveway. Even the brakes on a supersport are too powerful for a beginner. Please, if you have no riding experience, get a beginner bike. Learn on it for a year and then upgrade to something faster like a 650 class bike. If you’ve ridden dirt bikes for years like I did, that’s different. I had a YZ250 2 stroke. So going to a fast street bike was no problem. But if you have no clue what you’re doing, a supersport will either get you hurt, killed, or just scare you to the point where you won’t even enjoy riding
The very first bike I ever owned was a Honda CB 650 in line four. Knowing nothing about bikes, I asked a friend (whose whole family was into auto racing) what size bike to get. He said at least a 600. He told me, more than that would be too much, and less will have you saying in six months, "I wish this bike had more power." I put over 30,000 miles on that bike, never had a problem...but I also didn't burn rubber, race on the public street or ride as fast as I could pushing the ragged edge of disaster, either. Sometimes I sure wish I had that bike back...anyways, I think my friend's advice is perfect. 600 or so is a perfect beginner bike assuming the rider is responsible and doesn't ride like a bat outta hell.
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there's 2 types of people about this topic: those who would say to start on 600/1000cc and those who would say to start on a 250cc-400cc. The former are the ones who are not necessarily interested in learning the more advanced riding skills. They are typically only interested in learning how to ride on straight roads and highways, and/or are located on places with wide open roads. While the latter are typically those who go farther than learning the basics, those that enjoy exploring the other skills rather than just twisting the throttle, those that take interest in riding schools and maybe track days, and/or located in much busier streets or smaller roads.
You're right. That's why my first bike is a ZX10-R. It's all about humility and riding your own ride. Don't get pressured by other people. Sure, someone on an R6 could beat me, but I know my bike is plenty capable, I am not yet. Also, why would I not start and get really intimate with the bike that I want? It's really all about mindset.
Rode a enduro for like 3 months then ride a gsxr250 for a month(not my owned biked ofc) then I took the MSF course( no matter what, take that course) but I bought a 600 as my “first bike” and I treat it as if I never rode, I don’t get on it, I practice my slow speed stuff more than my actual riding almost, but I respect the bike and I think it goes a long ways
I grew up on dirt bikes. Did desert riding for 15 years. When I went to street bikes I bought a 600 first. I’m glad I did. At first it’s weird because some body positions are backwards between the two. However, I was able to quickly get used to the bike and the power. That being said, it’s a lot of power for a beginner. If you didn’t grow up riding motorcycles I HIGHLY recommend getting a 300 or if you’re feeling a little brave maybe something like an R7.
I bought a 1969 Triumph Tiger 650cc, weight is 350 lbs. as my first bike. I was scared of it because on the first ride down the street I couldn’t stop it, with the drum brakes. I have started riding it around the block now. I’m taking it slow and respecting the bike and knowing my limited riding skills. I bought it for cruising, and no Freeway riding. Just to have fun, not to ride crazy at my age of 68.
Tbh people always say i know what im doing im taking babysteps but to be honest you will learn the most if you start on lets say a 400. You can push that bike to its limits and really grow yourself into motorcycles, i started on a honda cb-1 (400cc) then went to a cbr600f2 and then to the fireblade cbr 900rr sc33 Because i started on a 400 i was able to really learn how to to ride en push my limits. This way when i got on my 600 i was confident and was able to slowly push myself further and reach the 600 limits. Of course there are special situations where people start on a 1000 and actually become good riders, but i know a lot that regret the choices
@@tucrr appreciate that. Going slow in parking lots and staying off major roads for a while as I go over all the basics and build from there. Got humbled pretty quick.
Hey tuck, sound advice. My opinion: a sensible biker will buy a decent used, get to grips with how to ride and work their way up to S tier. Have a good one.
Started on a 600 , and i have better throttle control for it. Don't recommend anyone starting on a 250 if they ever plan on moving up. It's absolutely mental to think it's a good idea to teach a new rider on a bike that has no consequences for lack of throttle control. It's not so touchy it'll rip you off the bike with a little rev , but it is touchy enough to teach people respect the throttle. A 250 will teach them they can just go all out max wrist and never have to worry about the bike coming up
@@slimfit767 best riders I've ever encountered in the streets started on 600+. Now the only 3 guys I've EVER known to loop their bikes were all 3 guys who started on 250s and 300s. Moved to 750s and all 3 of them looped their shit within a month of ownership. Lack of respect for the power and they were used to being able to just take off without worrying about it coming up.
@@2_Wheel_Waldo those guys you're talkin about most likely can't ride that well,u just think they can. Line them up against guys with actual skill and they get sorted out quickly.happens all the time.
Started on a 2022 750 GSXR , 1 year later riding like a pro & never dropped my bike nor wrecked . (Mind you) I was told by everyone friends , family other bikers that I was gone die , crash or drop my new bike. What now 😂🙏🏻🙏🏻 tearing up these streets like a demon. Self taught. All I got to say is , don’t get over confident, lots of studying , & baby step EVERYTHING, till you get it 101% . & self control is #1 key 🔑 to not hurting yourself . besides a shitty driver hitting you etc but yeah. Do whatever tf ya want 🙏🏻 & if you know how to drive a Manuel car you will get the mechanics of how a clutch works on a bike 🏍 easier
Start on a 600 that has ABC mode, and youll be fine, I feel like 250’s are a waste of money, definitely don’t get back what you spend on a 250. Gradually move through the ABC modes, and be honest with yourself when you feel comfortable moving to A mode
I had a tenere 700 for my first bike for a few months before it got stolen 2 weeks ago in New Mexico, I just got a ktm 890 Duke r, however; I learned how to ride bikes with my dad on his triumph 1050 speed triple, he taught me for a while how to ride. I agree with you that a bike like an R6 is certainly not a beginner bike. I even talk to a lot of new riders and they immediately want to start with a 1000cc and I tell them that this is a bad idea
I want to start on a 1000, just because im aware of the power and i know ill be comfortable on one but....i think itll be best, in experience, knowledge, to start on 600.
Glad I started on 300. Had no riding experience prior so I started during Covid-19 been riding my cbr300 for 2 years as soon as I got my r6 two weeks later I dropped it so yea start on 300. Now my lil cbr is my Goldwing lol
I grew up riding dirt bikes but I decided to go with the new 2024 ninga 500 I knew I could’ve started on a 600 even a 1000 but I wanted to be safe basically but honestly I might not even move up to a 600 or 1000 I’ve had my 500 for about 4 months almost 5 I’ve put 5,800 on it so far and I love it it’s perfect amount of power to me I don’t see why anyone would really ever need a 600 or 1000 and like u said I already dropped it on a stand still didn’t have the kickstand down all the way! Luckily just a few nicks.
Just get a decently newer 600 with modes on it and start in the lower power modes and progress up to the big boy modes later on. That way you're not stuck with a slow ass bike you outgrew after a few months
Way I see it, if you have some riding experience, a twin cyl. Like a 650 is a great place to start on the streets. If you have no riding experience, then a 400 is the sweet spot.
I think the only people that should start on 600s are people that have been rideing for a long time, like before my dad died he said he was gonna get me a 600 when I got my motorcycle permit because I’ve been rideing my entire life, but if I didn’t have the experience I’ve accumulated in my 17 years of life, my dad woulda said like a 250 or 300. I feel like 250 and 300s are meant for learning how the bikes and all that shit works and as u go up it’s because u are good enough and want the better challenge I guess u would say
Watching this knowing i started on a cbr600rr and I can’t ride it enough. Im also an adrenaline junkie and wouldn’t recommend for someone with 0 experience
i bought a 2001 gsxr 600 power commander tuned and has a 1/4 turn throttle. only rode in parking lots and down that street at speed. wasn't bad at all. i say do the speed limit. drive normally you'll be fine.
My first bike was a ZX6R that I had for years without a single solitary issue. Jumped to an 899 Panigale... again without a single issue. Respect the bike and you'll be fine. Period. This is such a stupid cliche
Just finalized everything on a 2023 r7 for my first bike. I only have experience on 250 dirt bikes but hoping since it’s a little slower than an r6 everything goes well this weekend
I started riding dirt bikes at 5. I still own a 450. Just got into street bikes about a year ago now. 2014 cbr 1000RR. Put 6k on it sold and bought a 600. I like turns not straight lines..
What would you say about starting on a bike like an older Fz-07 or an R7/R3? Those 3 bikes are the ones I’m really looking into getting hopefully this upcoming summer. I’m 19 btw with basically no motorcycle experience but normal bike riding (yes I know it’s very different) I have probably thousands of hours.
I started on an MT-03 a year ago, first six months it was the fastest thing in the world to me. I’m just now starting to want for more power but equally I’m very aware there’s still many ways I can improve as a rider before upgrading. I can strongly recommend the mt03/R3 platform at 19 with no dirt bike experience. First 6 months it felt insanely fast. And because I bought one that was already 3 years old it’s looking like I’ll be able to sell it for $500 NZD less than I paid for it, even with some light scratches. Goodluck!
@@johns66723 To get to where I currently work I have to either ride back roads which I’m not familiar with or ride on 55mph interstate which is why I’m leaning towards either the fz or the r7. I know you can ride an r3 or an mt-03 on the interstate but I know I wouldn’t be comfortable doing that on a 300cc bike.
R7 is on the upper end of what I would advise someone start on because it packs a torque punch and has more aggressive ergo's but it's far away from a 600. A 600 has almost double the power and even more aggressive ergo's. Want my real advice tho since you're 19? Go w/the R3. Please don't listen to these people saying "i started on and outgrew and got liter bike"--- none of these people can ride and ride with really bad habits. An R3 on a twisty road or a track is super fun, it's super light, you will not feel underpowered and you'll be able to work on developing good skills.
After riding for 14 years, I would NEVER recommend someone start on a 600cc bike. Especially since 90% of people won't have the throttle control to avoid whiskey throttle and having the worst day of their lives. There are some new middleweight 600cc that could be a okay beginner bike if you rode them in rain mode till you've built solid riding fundamentals. Best thing anyone can do is take the MSF course and start on something like the R3, MT03, Ninja 400. As their cheap and parts are cheap and plentiful for when a new rider drops their bike. Plus the saying "More fun to ride a slow bike fast rather than a fast bike slow" will never change.
My first ride was a CBR 1000F sc24 in red,was as heavy as f@ck but quite fast for its weight... Rode it for 1 season,then sold it because I wanted something quicker: An (unrestricted) 2000 ZX12R A1H,had it now for 5years and she will still scare the crap out of me when I rip her... NEVER will I sell her..!!
@@AdamChase-t8r Chances are high that u will get aquainted to the power delivery and handling after a while and then (if you ride for the speed/acceleration kick,not to cruise ..) want more... Staying safe and riding within your own limits is the key to becoming a more capable Rider...
I started 9n and still ride my 08 gsxr 600 it has modes where you can control the throttle response it's an excellent bike I'll never need more and if anything ever happens to it I will replace it with the same body style I have dropped it while learning but I would have been upset if I started on anything smaller because selling something smaller would be so hard
Ya, I don’t think starting instantly on a high cc bike is a good idea, but not gonna stop anyone from doing it. My plan is to start on a 300cc bike for a few years then work my way up
@@tucrr I do plan on starting on a 600, biggest dirt bike I’ve rode for a good amount of time is a 250 but I’ve ridden some 450’s for short periods, glad I love waited a few years and have a decent head on my shoulders to know my limits before doing anything stupid, I do appreciate the advice in the video, was very helpful no matter how bad you think you are at talking🙌🏼
Juss bought a 2005 CBR600RR with only MSF course experience. Test drove it and drove home in second gear..... it's honestly not hard but I'd say it's about understanding. If you don't understand how to control the bike it'll never work. Will take me longer to master but I'm okay with that. I payed less for my bike than these guy pay for R3s & 400s I promise yu that
Had a question I’m 17 years old and I drive a manual truck is that good experience to understand clutch control as I’m use to it. Like I know where the bite point is and know what to do if the car dies etc. thank you.
I’ve never had clutch experience till I started riding 🏍️ this month. If you already drive manual you should be just fine picking up on a clutch for a bike. The friction zone is easy to find and get used to after a few hours even.
@@marioknowsitsgod1506 bet appreciate you I mean I never ridden a motorcycle but I’m into sporty bikes. I’m 17 ima do my course knowledge for dmv bike and than purchase ninja 400 learn it and than take test etc. 🥂 cheers
Not all 600's are the same. I just started about a month ago on my first bike a 2002 suzuki katana 600. I got to try a friends 2012 gsxr 600 and it scared me it was way too much bike for me to handle with 125hp. But my slightly heavier katana with only around 85hp feels just right I feel like Ill be happy with the power it has for a while. A gsx650f or an sv650 would also be a really good starter bike for someone who doesn't want to waste time and money on a ninja 250 but isn't ready for something like an r6..
I started on a 250. If I started on a 600 I'd probably be, not here right now. I think it has to do with maturity and how comfortable you are in your bike. When I got my 650 ninja I had already fallen twice on my 250. Get used to riding first before you go crazy
Just ran into ur channel amazing videos I just got into riding for the first time ever on a z125, eventually i would like to get something faster but seeing the freeways terrified me 😂 love the videos
I understand that 600s have a huge risk factor as a starter bike. But what about 650s? Or like an R7. If you’re a new rider but don’t want to buy a second bike after a month or want to get bored of your 250-400 class. Wouldn’t a 650 be the best next option?
I'm new to bikes and just got my bike license so don't bash me if this sounds dumb but I notice during high speeds, riders don't use their clutch to change gears. Why's that?
yoza tuck, i was wondeirng what quickshifter u use and if threres a setting whats the setting? the quickshifter on ur bike sounds so nice ADSJKLJKLAJKLDA
I'd rather buy a 600cc and grow into it than buy a 200 and have to sell and buy a new one later personally. But I'm also someone who has a lot of self control. I drive a manual mustang and I've only gone over 10 mph over limiy like 5 times in the year I've had it
I think everyone should take a course and see how they feel on the 250s they throw you on. A lot of people underestimate the power of motorcycles
Yes ur right, when i did my course they started us on 125cc
I just got a z400 and it keeps up with 600's, grasnted im not dsoing highway pulls and shit like that, and i dont plan too, but its a great bike for me at least.
@@PtchersWR there’s no way ur 44hp z400 is keeping up with 115+hp 600 class, maybe ur friends didn’t wanna push a new rider that hard? I personally wouldent leave a new rider in the dust, because there gonna want to chase you and may meet there limitations of skill
@@braeden10120 no no I meant like on general🤣 I'd get smoked if i raced them, but in general a 400 is perfect for commuting and having a little fun
Lol In my country we don't have courses only an exam and you learn to get experience you can start on 1000cc
I started on a 600. It's perfectly fine. Just know what you're getting into and respect the power and you'll be fine.
Nice topic that never gets old. I think a 600 is OK to start on. It's like learning to drive in a manual shifting Corvette. It can be done, but it might be a little scary at times. A 600 will match a Corvette in acceleration up to about 140-150. After that, the Vette will pull away. Just learn the basics before you get too carried away with the speed.
A 700hp vette cannot keep up with a 600lol
@@idkmankindawackeasily could
After about 150 mph, a 700 hp Vette will not be far behind a 600 cc bike and will overtake the bike pull away. The car has a significantly higher top speed. Once in the 150's 600's run out of breath and accelerate slowly.
@@idkmankindawack700hp vett will deff pull on a 600 top end
@@idkmankindawack Easily could lmao. just bc the bikes take off on the low end, once the bike reaches 140-50 that vet will easily run it down
11:52 , my favorite part of the video.
Every time there's a death in the bike community, it gets me in the feels. Value your life over validation, you don't need to prove to anyone how fast you can go without wrecking.
Be safe, be aware of your surroundings, and wear gear... please. Something as simple as a helmet can save your life, we all care about you.
I started on my current r6 never rode a bike before and I can say with the right mindset you can learn on a 600 never even took out a moped, it’s just self control I treated mine like a moped for the first 4 months never pushed any limits until I learned the basics but for most people getting sport bike sadly get it for the adrenaline rush and get lost in it especially younger riders
Agreed, sadly a lot of people don’t have the mindset to be able to do that, glad you do!
Exactly, the only question i ever ask a new rider thinking about getting a 600, is "can you control yourself", if the answer is yes, get the 600, if its "maybe" get a 400.
I bought a 2020 R6 in January, just got my permit. It's my first bike, but I'm fully aware of how powerful my bike is and how easy I could lose control. At 22 years old, I can confidently say I have the discipline to take baby steps before I even consider doing anything crazy (18 year old me would have been too impatient looking back, so I'm happy I took more time to mature) As of this post, the weather in my state is warming up enough for me to practice in my neighborhood at low speeds in 1st & 2nd gear, along with getting comfortable with counter steering at slow turns. I have the R6 set to B mode, and I plan on practicing for another two weeks before taking it on the main roads (Won't take the freeway until I'm comfortable). I didn't get pressured by anyone to buy an R6, it was my choice.
Edit: You can start on any bike you want, but you have to understand the risks. If your ego is not in check, you could get yourself killed, or someone else. You'll also have a longer time getting comfortable with learning how to ride on a 600 compared to a 300 or 250.
As a 35 year old, there isn't a difference in maturity between an 18yr old and a 22yr old, especially for dudes. You're still starting to peak with your reaction times and testosterone. So the chances of erratic choices is still going to be present, not a knock, just a feature of growing up; kind of like young lions establishing themselves.
You will have peaked around 33-36 and start reversing those attributes of reaction times & testerone ~40, then there's no choice to mature and slow down
If I was 22 again, I would start on a 400, perfect every technique for a year and then get on to anything I want. You've got time and potential, use it to the fullest. Good luck 😎
@@hyedefinition1080 That's what I was thinking reading that. Like is an 18 year old really that incredibly different in maturity to a 21 year old? I have a coworker who's 23 that bought a ZX6R and is already looking at a 1000cc motorcycle. He's saying its his midlife crisis because he's sure he's halfway there already. Thinking like that maybe he really is.
@@hyedefinition1080 I think that depends on what you go through in life. I can confidently say that 18 year old me was a fucking moron, and 23 year old me got two raises in one month, works two jobs, balances the gym, riding, friends, family and a relationship all at once. Like a normal adult basically lmao. But nonetheless, maturity isn’t based on time. It’s based on experience, falter, and whatever the universe throws at you throughout certain years. Shit happens to everyone differently. I’m not tryna come at you or anything, but being someone who has gone through so much, and knowing people who have gone through worse, I can confidently claim that I am far different than 18 year old me and idk if I’d want anyone taking away that credit from me. As dumb as that may sound, idk… life isn’t the same at my 23 as it was at YOUR 23 is another great example as to how we, as humans, shouldnt judge someone’s maturity based off age, not entirely anyway.
Ik it’s a lot I typed lmao, you don’t gotta read it, but if you care or wonder why the original author may feel like he’s far more mature than he was at 18, perhaps this offers insight ig
@@billyjoe1839 Absolutely agree with your statement regarding maturity based on experiences. I'll give some info about my life to back that up... I grew up in a household that was very stable with two loving, supporting parents. Ever since I can remember, I've always struggled socializing with my age range due to my diagnosis of ADHD in my early childhood, which made me an easy target for bullying throughout my K-12 experience. It wasn't that bad to be honest looking back since the lack of a large social circle allowed me more time to do things I had interests in, along with learning good habits and work ethic by starting work at 14 years old. Graduated and dropped out of college a year into it after not feeling it was the right path. I'm currently working for a pharmaceutical company, in a position that requires an undergraduate degree to be considered, and just had an interview for a coordinator position at the same company. I'm very fortunate to be in where I am today, as most 22 year olds are drowning in student loans, car loan they can't afford, and credit card debt because they were told from an early age that "Everybody does it, so don't worry". Dropping out of college forced me to grow up a lot faster than I wanted to, because there were only two choices... Sink or swim. I don't go clubbing or bar hopping as I see it as an easy escape from the everyday stresses that you kick down the road. I've probably opened up a little too much, but it is what it is.
I started on a 300 and sold it after 2 seasons. Hopped on a street triple and I was humbled very quickly
Anyone can ride a bike slow, self control plays a big part in riding in my opinion. Great video!
I started on a ninja 400. And only a few months I went to a zx-10r and I love it. Glad I started small but honestly was a waste of $ if I could go back. Wish I woulda got a 600. I would probably still have it but always wanted a liter bike and I don’t regret anything.
I have an 04 R1, it’s an interesting machine..the low rpm’s feels like a 600, around 6k starts to feel like a 750, and around 9 is when it becomes a 1000 lol, and the top end pull on the 04-06 is one of the most insane. 1st gear will do exactly 100
Tbh just start on the bike you really want. Practice every chance you get learn throttle control and take the msf course.
I love this video. Thanks for sharing your opinion and advice. I have no riding experience, I’ve never ridden a motorcycle before. I’ve been told good starter options are Ninja 400 or an R3. Bikes seem so scary to ride and I definitely don’t trust myself in the way that I don’t want more power than I can handle. I’m also gonna need to take the safety course to get the basics down and understand the mechanics and how the clutch works.
I started on a 2009 R6 and within a season I had an 2015 R1.
What a waste of money!
With all the driving aids, ABS and riding modes a 1000 can be as tame as 600.
I didn't or couldn't sell the 600. Lots of fun memories like my first crash on black ice and over that winter I spent some wrench time with her. Now it's a 3 way marriage and "till death do we part"
Relying on rider aids will make u a terrible rider.
Honestly the best thing you can do is start on a small cc hone your skills and work your way up. From a financial standpoint I also understand some don’t want to buy multiple bikes. I also believe it depends on the individual as well. Some people (even current riders) don’t belong on a bike lol
LOL agreed
"Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you"
-Jeremy Clarkson
You live In Georgia too so I know you've had to see this too but you know on adult swim when the Latino cop says "byee have a great time" and then it goes to the "Made in Georgiaaaa" commercial 😂😂 that's the perfect snippet for an outro !
I bought my first bike, a 300, abs bought my 600 3 months later. Used both at the same time depending on where I was going. City-300 got errands,etc; Highway-600, mostly joy riding
I started on an R6 I grew up ripping dirt bikes so it wasn't like I had no idea what I was doing. But you cannot compare the 2 lol 600cc is gnarly! I will say though the lack of power in the bottom end of the R6's if you were to start on one definitely helps when learning all I can say is respect the bike don't get on it and practice the basics.
Learning on a Dirt Bike is the only way I would approve getting 600cc as a first Street Bike.
But all in all it is about respect for the machine and awareness of your skills as much as your surroundings.
Nice video, great advice and Sweet Bike.
Thank you bro! Completely agree with you
I learned on a 400cc dirtbike and had a 10 year gap, then got my first street bike, a Ducati 999. Then got my second bike 2 months later, a zx6r. 5 months now, haven't dropped either.
That's funny, I owned a zx6r and an 899 panigale hahaha.
@@RedRaider14 I think they pair well together
After minibikes as a kid, my first was a 700 Magna. Tons of power and speed. Raced several 600 rockets and beat them. Riding a 1800 cruiser now that’s fast but heavy. Debating a 1000 rocket now. Having to relearn riding at higher speeds and traffic. Baby steps. Everything in moderation. Keep the shiny side up boys. 😉
I started on a 200cc Chinese Enduro last year and now have a cbr600 f4i that I'll be learning this year, I still have no plans to get rid of my 200cc, it's been an absolute blast and I will continue to torture it and myself off road, the 600 will for sure command more respect as I know it can do another of damage if I don't respect the power, going from 14hp to about 100hp
I started on a 600 with 0 riding experience and what I can say is it takes a lot of respect and it’s scary
I always say to anyone asking about a 600/1000 starter bike under the guise "I'll control myself"-- it isn't about you necessarily killing yourself because a responsible person can do this and do it safely but it will 100% hamper your skill development because so much is going to go in controlling that beast rather than learning to push a smaller CC bike and enjoy a regular learning curve. People that start small and work on skills grow into larger bikes and can actually have tons of fun on them and end up being good riders. You don't realize the bad habits you will pick up doing the reverse.
And nobody in the advanced rider community anywhere thinks a dude with 2 inch chicken strips on a BMW S1000RR is cool, but a dude who can outride a group on a Ninja 400 at the track is regarded as cool AF.
The ramble was almost more of an emphasis on being careful lol 🙏
I got a ZX6R Kawasaki 2007 first bike and I love it and it was the best choice fr fr
This is the best advice for any new rider who wants to start on a 600. Even if you have experience on dirt bikes, you should still start on a r3 or ninja 400 just to be safe and get used to the street bikes rather than the dirt bikes. Like you mentioned, just be safe if you decide to start on a r6.
Just got my first bike this Saturday. andddd I indeed got a 2008 Yamaha R6 Raven lol. Love it so far
Finally convinced a friend of mine to get a bike and get got an R3. He’s a 100% beginner. After seeing how rough it is to be a complete noob, there is no way someone like that should be on a 600. He already nearly yeeted himself over a hill. And dropped the bike in his driveway. Even the brakes on a supersport are too powerful for a beginner. Please, if you have no riding experience, get a beginner bike. Learn on it for a year and then upgrade to something faster like a 650 class bike. If you’ve ridden dirt bikes for years like I did, that’s different. I had a YZ250 2 stroke. So going to a fast street bike was no problem. But if you have no clue what you’re doing, a supersport will either get you hurt, killed, or just scare you to the point where you won’t even enjoy riding
The very first bike I ever owned was a Honda CB 650 in line four. Knowing nothing about bikes, I asked a friend (whose whole family was into auto racing) what size bike to get. He said at least a 600. He told me, more than that would be too much, and less will have you saying in six months, "I wish this bike had more power." I put over 30,000 miles on that bike, never had a problem...but I also didn't burn rubber, race on the public street or ride as fast as I could pushing the ragged edge of disaster, either. Sometimes I sure wish I had that bike back...anyways, I think my friend's advice is perfect. 600 or so is a perfect beginner bike assuming the rider is responsible and doesn't ride like a bat outta hell.
New subscriber here, enjoyed the vid.
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there's 2 types of people about this topic: those who would say to start on 600/1000cc and those who would say to start on a 250cc-400cc. The former are the ones who are not necessarily interested in learning the more advanced riding skills. They are typically only interested in learning how to ride on straight roads and highways, and/or are located on places with wide open roads. While the latter are typically those who go farther than learning the basics, those that enjoy exploring the other skills rather than just twisting the throttle, those that take interest in riding schools and maybe track days, and/or located in much busier streets or smaller roads.
You're right. That's why my first bike is a ZX10-R. It's all about humility and riding your own ride. Don't get pressured by other people. Sure, someone on an R6 could beat me, but I know my bike is plenty capable, I am not yet. Also, why would I not start and get really intimate with the bike that I want? It's really all about mindset.
yup
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That was a dumb move bro
Rookie I started on a stretched busa wit turbos on both side at 16
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Your Chanel name made me look twice at it lmao.. but 600s are a great way to start riding for sure..
Lmaoooo
Rode a enduro for like 3 months then ride a gsxr250 for a month(not my owned biked ofc) then I took the MSF course( no matter what, take that course) but I bought a 600 as my “first bike” and I treat it as if I never rode, I don’t get on it, I practice my slow speed stuff more than my actual riding almost, but I respect the bike and I think it goes a long ways
I think you have given great advice, not sure everyone is going to listen to you sadly but you can’t always get through to the knuckleheads 😂
anybody can start off on a 600 its really all on you
I grew up on dirt bikes. Did desert riding for 15 years. When I went to street bikes I bought a 600 first. I’m glad I did. At first it’s weird because some body positions are backwards between the two. However, I was able to quickly get used to the bike and the power. That being said, it’s a lot of power for a beginner. If you didn’t grow up riding motorcycles I HIGHLY recommend getting a 300 or if you’re feeling a little brave maybe something like an R7.
Completely agree with you man 🤝
I bought a 1969 Triumph Tiger 650cc, weight is 350 lbs. as my first bike. I was scared of it because on the first ride down the street I couldn’t stop it, with the drum brakes. I have started riding it around the block now. I’m taking it slow and respecting the bike and knowing my limited riding skills. I bought it for cruising, and no Freeway riding. Just to have fun, not to ride crazy at my age of 68.
Awesome man!!!
Tbh people always say i know what im doing im taking babysteps but to be honest you will learn the most if you start on lets say a 400. You can push that bike to its limits and really grow yourself into motorcycles, i started on a honda cb-1 (400cc) then went to a cbr600f2 and then to the fireblade cbr 900rr sc33
Because i started on a 400 i was able to really learn how to to ride en push my limits. This way when i got on my 600 i was confident and was able to slowly push myself further and reach the 600 limits.
Of course there are special situations where people start on a 1000 and actually become good riders, but i know a lot that regret the choices
Got my gsxr 600 yesterday ! First bike and I’m stupid happy with the choice, BUT I can absolutely see why it’s not a good idea for everyone.
Be careful man, as someone that’s hurt themselves really bad false confidence can ruin your life, safe riding!
@@tucrr appreciate that. Going slow in parking lots and staying off major roads for a while as I go over all the basics and build from there. Got humbled pretty quick.
Hey tuck, sound advice. My opinion: a sensible biker will buy a decent used, get to grips with how to ride and work their way up to S tier. Have a good one.
Agreed, I think everyone should start on a used 300 or 400 because majority of people drop their first bike
Started on a 600 , and i have better throttle control for it. Don't recommend anyone starting on a 250 if they ever plan on moving up. It's absolutely mental to think it's a good idea to teach a new rider on a bike that has no consequences for lack of throttle control. It's not so touchy it'll rip you off the bike with a little rev , but it is touchy enough to teach people respect the throttle. A 250 will teach them they can just go all out max wrist and never have to worry about the bike coming up
Lol its mental to learn on a small bike? U think marc marquez learned on a zx10r? 😂 the best riders in the world all start on small bikes.
@@slimfit767 best riders I've ever encountered in the streets started on 600+. Now the only 3 guys I've EVER known to loop their bikes were all 3 guys who started on 250s and 300s. Moved to 750s and all 3 of them looped their shit within a month of ownership. Lack of respect for the power and they were used to being able to just take off without worrying about it coming up.
@@2_Wheel_Waldo those guys you're talkin about most likely can't ride that well,u just think they can. Line them up against guys with actual skill and they get sorted out quickly.happens all the time.
Explanation is perfect x luv it
Started on a 2022 750 GSXR , 1 year later riding like a pro & never dropped my bike nor wrecked . (Mind you) I was told by everyone friends , family other bikers that I was gone die , crash or drop my new bike. What now 😂🙏🏻🙏🏻 tearing up these streets like a demon. Self taught. All I got to say is , don’t get over confident, lots of studying , & baby step EVERYTHING, till you get it 101% . & self control is #1 key 🔑 to not hurting yourself . besides a shitty driver hitting you etc but yeah. Do whatever tf ya want 🙏🏻 & if you know how to drive a Manuel car you will get the mechanics of how a clutch works on a bike 🏍 easier
Start on a 600 that has ABC mode, and youll be fine, I feel like 250’s are a waste of money, definitely don’t get back what you spend on a 250. Gradually move through the ABC modes, and be honest with yourself when you feel comfortable moving to A mode
Loved the vid and I couldn’t agree with you more! 🙌🏻💯
I had a tenere 700 for my first bike for a few months before it got stolen 2 weeks ago in New Mexico, I just got a ktm 890 Duke r, however; I learned how to ride bikes with my dad on his triumph 1050 speed triple, he taught me for a while how to ride. I agree with you that a bike like an R6 is certainly not a beginner bike. I even talk to a lot of new riders and they immediately want to start with a 1000cc and I tell them that this is a bad idea
Agreed bro
I want to start on a 1000, just because im aware of the power and i know ill be comfortable on one but....i think itll be best, in experience, knowledge, to start on 600.
Glad I started on 300. Had no riding experience prior so I started during Covid-19 been riding my cbr300 for 2 years as soon as I got my r6 two weeks later I dropped it so yea start on 300. Now my lil cbr is my Goldwing lol
I grew up riding dirt bikes but I decided to go with the new 2024 ninga 500 I knew I could’ve started on a 600 even a 1000 but I wanted to be safe basically but honestly I might not even move up to a 600 or 1000 I’ve had my 500 for about 4 months almost 5 I’ve put 5,800 on it so far and I love it it’s perfect amount of power to me I don’t see why anyone would really ever need a 600 or 1000 and like u said I already dropped it on a stand still didn’t have the kickstand down all the way! Luckily just a few nicks.
Just get a decently newer 600 with modes on it and start in the lower power modes and progress up to the big boy modes later on. That way you're not stuck with a slow ass bike you outgrew after a few months
Only problem is most people drop their first bike, so it would suck dropping your pretty new 600
Way I see it, if you have some riding experience, a twin cyl. Like a 650 is a great place to start on the streets. If you have no riding experience, then a 400 is the sweet spot.
I think the only people that should start on 600s are people that have been rideing for a long time, like before my dad died he said he was gonna get me a 600 when I got my motorcycle permit because I’ve been rideing my entire life, but if I didn’t have the experience I’ve accumulated in my 17 years of life, my dad woulda said like a 250 or 300. I feel like 250 and 300s are meant for learning how the bikes and all that shit works and as u go up it’s because u are good enough and want the better challenge I guess u would say
You went past my house here bruh. I’m sure I’ll see you one day around. 🤙🏻
No way! Dope bro
@@tucrr yup on shady. You must be the other black bike everyone talks about. 🤣🤣
Where do you get the letter stickering to put your @ on your wind screen? Great video BTW, Thoroughly enjoyed!
That’s not my @ sadly hahah it’s just an insta360 sticker they sent me
@@tucrr ohh ok lmao guess I have to stay on the lookout 😂😂 I’m wanting to put my YT and other social handles on mine
600 gsxr here I love it stage 3 power commander yeaaaa
love the content brodie
Thank you so much man!
Watching this knowing i started on a cbr600rr and I can’t ride it enough. Im also an adrenaline junkie and wouldn’t recommend for someone with 0 experience
My opinion is if you are going to get a 600cc you HAVE to live in a rural area like tuck. If you live in an urban area then get a 350cc or 250cc.
i bought a 2001 gsxr 600 power commander tuned and has a 1/4 turn throttle. only rode in parking lots and down that street at speed. wasn't bad at all. i say do the speed limit. drive normally you'll be fine.
My first bike was a ZX6R that I had for years without a single solitary issue. Jumped to an 899 Panigale... again without a single issue. Respect the bike and you'll be fine. Period. This is such a stupid cliche
Dude I love the r6 best bike ever
As a mx racer I wish I did, I got pretty bored pretty quickly with a ninja 300 but I did put about 6K miles on it
Thanks for the tips man your a legend
Happy to help
The r6 sounds good man
Thanks man!
Just finalized everything on a 2023 r7 for my first bike. I only have experience on 250 dirt bikes but hoping since it’s a little slower than an r6 everything goes well this weekend
You should be fine, just take it easy for the first while
The real answer is, "It depends." & it depends on a LOT of things & those things are different for every person.
Completely agree
I started riding dirt bikes at 5. I still own a 450. Just got into street bikes about a year ago now. 2014 cbr 1000RR. Put 6k on it sold and bought a 600. I like turns not straight lines..
Turns>>>
i feel like i should have got a 600, it looks so fun being wide open and not going insanely fast
What would you say about starting on a bike like an older Fz-07 or an R7/R3? Those 3 bikes are the ones I’m really looking into getting hopefully this upcoming summer. I’m 19 btw with basically no motorcycle experience but normal bike riding (yes I know it’s very different) I have probably thousands of hours.
I started on an MT-03 a year ago, first six months it was the fastest thing in the world to me. I’m just now starting to want for more power but equally I’m very aware there’s still many ways I can improve as a rider before upgrading. I can strongly recommend the mt03/R3 platform at 19 with no dirt bike experience. First 6 months it felt insanely fast. And because I bought one that was already 3 years old it’s looking like I’ll be able to sell it for $500 NZD less than I paid for it, even with some light scratches. Goodluck!
@@johns66723 To get to where I currently work I have to either ride back roads which I’m not familiar with or ride on 55mph interstate which is why I’m leaning towards either the fz or the r7. I know you can ride an r3 or an mt-03 on the interstate but I know I wouldn’t be comfortable doing that on a 300cc bike.
R7 is on the upper end of what I would advise someone start on because it packs a torque punch and has more aggressive ergo's but it's far away from a 600. A 600 has almost double the power and even more aggressive ergo's.
Want my real advice tho since you're 19? Go w/the R3. Please don't listen to these people saying "i started on and outgrew and got liter bike"--- none of these people can ride and ride with really bad habits. An R3 on a twisty road or a track is super fun, it's super light, you will not feel underpowered and you'll be able to work on developing good skills.
@@pohlars3320 R3 handles a 55 MPH interstate ride just fine. I've cruised 75 MPH on one to a destination an hour away.
@@englishsteel-nz6im yup, done multiple long (800+ kilometres, 500+ miles) road trips sitting at 120kph (75mph) for extended periods just fine
After riding for 14 years, I would NEVER recommend someone start on a 600cc bike. Especially since 90% of people won't have the throttle control to avoid whiskey throttle and having the worst day of their lives. There are some new middleweight 600cc that could be a okay beginner bike if you rode them in rain mode till you've built solid riding fundamentals. Best thing anyone can do is take the MSF course and start on something like the R3, MT03, Ninja 400. As their cheap and parts are cheap and plentiful for when a new rider drops their bike. Plus the saying "More fun to ride a slow bike fast rather than a fast bike slow" will never change.
My first ride was a CBR 1000F sc24 in red,was as heavy as f@ck but quite fast for its weight...
Rode it for 1 season,then sold it because I wanted something quicker: An (unrestricted) 2000 ZX12R A1H,had it now for 5years and she will still scare the crap out of me when I rip her...
NEVER will I sell her..!!
Christ
@@AdamChase-t8r As ment in which meaning..?🤔
@@Ninja12RA1H Respek
@@Ninja12RA1H I'm going 600cc then and prolly staying there
@@AdamChase-t8r Chances are high that u will get aquainted to the power delivery and handling after a while and then (if you ride for the speed/acceleration kick,not to cruise ..) want more...
Staying safe and riding within your own limits is the key to becoming a more capable Rider...
I started 9n and still ride my 08 gsxr 600 it has modes where you can control the throttle response it's an excellent bike I'll never need more and if anything ever happens to it I will replace it with the same body style I have dropped it while learning but I would have been upset if I started on anything smaller because selling something smaller would be so hard
Hey where on this bike I can find the relay flasher my indicator wont work not even show in my dashboard
Ive watched over 5000hrs worth of motor vlogging im positive i could hop on a turbo busa and start racing for slips
And that's on gawd baby gurl
Tbh I completely believe in you man
Nice vid 🔥can I know what your motovlog setup?
Have a vid on it :)
Yep. I started on a 2005 R6. Worst decision of my life xDDD
I'm happier with my 17' Harley 48.
Different strokes for different folks :)
started on a vfr 800 and then got a r6 at 20 it all depends on the person i feel like many will outgrow a 400
Ya, I don’t think starting instantly on a high cc bike is a good idea, but not gonna stop anyone from doing it. My plan is to start on a 300cc bike for a few years then work my way up
Agree with you completely
No offense but a lot of people who say that you shouldn’t, didn’t start on one. The opinions from people who actually started on one are different.
“This is why you probably shouldn’t get an r6 as your first bike”
Proceeds to fully convince me to get an r6 as my first bike
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
@@tucrr I do plan on starting on a 600, biggest dirt bike I’ve rode for a good amount of time is a 250 but I’ve ridden some 450’s for short periods, glad I love waited a few years and have a decent head on my shoulders to know my limits before doing anything stupid, I do appreciate the advice in the video, was very helpful no matter how bad you think you are at talking🙌🏼
I'll be buying a 750 as my first bike in austin then I'll be driving it back to Boston, ma
Juss bought a 2005 CBR600RR with only MSF course experience. Test drove it and drove home in second gear..... it's honestly not hard but I'd say it's about understanding. If you don't understand how to control the bike it'll never work. Will take me longer to master but I'm okay with that. I payed less for my bike than these guy pay for R3s & 400s I promise yu that
i remember my first bike was a 175cc scooter, and then bought z800 straight after it haha! 600cc u should be fine short answer
Had a question I’m 17 years old and I drive a manual truck is that good experience to understand clutch control as I’m use to it. Like I know where the bite point is and know what to do if the car dies etc. thank you.
I’ve never had clutch experience till I started riding 🏍️ this month. If you already drive manual you should be just fine picking up on a clutch for a bike. The friction zone is easy to find and get used to after a few hours even.
@@marioknowsitsgod1506 bet appreciate you I mean I never ridden a motorcycle but I’m into sporty bikes. I’m 17 ima do my course knowledge for dmv bike and than purchase ninja 400 learn it and than take test etc. 🥂 cheers
600cc is just enough for the roads
completely agree
Great video!
started on a gsxr 1000, it wasnt as bad as people are saying and never had any issues,
Not all 600's are the same. I just started about a month ago on my first bike a 2002 suzuki katana 600. I got to try a friends 2012 gsxr 600 and it scared me it was way too much bike for me to handle with 125hp. But my slightly heavier katana with only around 85hp feels just right I feel like Ill be happy with the power it has for a while. A gsx650f or an sv650 would also be a really good starter bike for someone who doesn't want to waste time and money on a ninja 250 but isn't ready for something like an r6..
I started on a 250. If I started on a 600 I'd probably be, not here right now. I think it has to do with maturity and how comfortable you are in your bike. When I got my 650 ninja I had already fallen twice on my 250. Get used to riding first before you go crazy
Just ran into ur channel amazing videos I just got into riding for the first time ever on a z125, eventually i would like to get something faster but seeing the freeways terrified me 😂 love the videos
BIRDS!
I understand that 600s have a huge risk factor as a starter bike. But what about 650s? Or like an R7. If you’re a new rider but don’t want to buy a second bike after a month or want to get bored of your 250-400 class. Wouldn’t a 650 be the best next option?
I say a cbr 500r but that’s me personally
If all u do is ride in a straight line(most American bikers),even a 1000 is gonna be boring.
I'm new to bikes and just got my bike license so don't bash me if this sounds dumb but I notice during high speeds, riders don't use their clutch to change gears. Why's that?
Well my bike has a quick shifter which means you don’t need to use the clutch to change gears ever, only need to clutch when stopping and starting
@@tucrr oh okay, thanks for the response brother
I know this is going to be a little off topic but what camera and settings are you using because it looks great.
Just posted a video on it:)
yoza tuck, i was wondeirng what quickshifter u use and if threres a setting whats the setting? the quickshifter on ur bike sounds so nice ADSJKLJKLAJKLDA
IRC quick shifter
@@tucrr is there a setting u need to do to make it like yours or nah
I would like to see you test a zx4rr when they hit the states.
Bro dealerships don't let you test ride new bikes. Especially sport bikes.
@@TheBearJew175 yup. Not unless you are a journalist or a big name in the motorcycle community.
My buddy has one on order im sure he will let me try it out
@@tucrr 😮
@@tucrr yo Tuck your friend got the zx4rr yet?
10:47 , yes I do , I do want to .
I'd rather buy a 600cc and grow into it than buy a 200 and have to sell and buy a new one later personally. But I'm also someone who has a lot of self control. I drive a manual mustang and I've only gone over 10 mph over limiy like 5 times in the year I've had it
Title- Should you start on a 600.
Me- Starting my biking journey with a Splendor (around 95cc) 🙃
Everyone starts on different bikes!!
great chasing wish i was out there with you . enjoy the day and #livetoride