JAGHATAI KHAN: OVERLOOKED, MISUNDERSTOOD, AWESOME | Warhammer 40k Lore
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Jaghatai Khan (pronounced Jagg-a-tie KAAN), also known as "The Great Khan," "the Khagan" and the "Warhawk," was the primarch of the V Legion of Space Marines, the White Scars, who led them through the years of the Great Crusade and the Horus Heresy.
Jaghatai fought alongside his White Scars for another 70 standard years following the end of the Heresy, eventually disappearing in 084.M31 into a region of space known as the Maelstrom, a large Warp rift in the Ultima Segmentum that is a smaller counterpart of the Eye of Terror.
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I have this idea that the saddest day in Jaghatai's life was when he grew too big and heavy to ride the horses in Chogoris and since then, no vehicles he ever rode, no matter how fast he drove them, gave him the same feeling he felt when he rode a horse on the wide open plains of his homeworld.
I mean he would've only been the right size to ride a horse for like a few months considering how fast the Primarchs hit maturity. Also, maybe there are Chogorisian mega horses that were big enough for him or something
@@fenris5932 you could also probably just jog at the pase of a horse though
Damn, that hit´s harder then it should...
@@bryanthardin8481 Imagine you’re defending your tribe against dudes on horseback and you spot a 10 foot tall Dude full on dead sprinting 3 times faster than them at you.
@@cryamistellimek9184 whelp.... We're going to die
Khan has best quotes.
Fulgrim: "I hear you do strange things to your ships."
Jaghatai: "I hear you do strange things to your warriors."
Lmao, Jaghatai does a little trolling
Vulkan then came and gave a big, friendly hug to his brother, for his ability to BURN
ngl was soooo hoping theyd cover that quote
“OOOOOOOHHHH!!!”
-The other primarchs, the emperor, and the chaos gods
I'm so sick of that quote. It was only funny the first time you hear it and then makes less and less sense or more gross each time I hear it
"He actually stood still for more than 20 seconds? I am proud of his progress."
"To be fair sir, the tank he stood upon was going at at least 200 miles per hour."
He tts is awesome
@@kishinasura1989 that it sure was...
RIP TTS...
(Also, honored be his name)
"AND IT WAS GLORIOUS!"
@@jakepbowden DESPAIR NOT, CITIZEN. ONE DAY, GAMES WORKSHOP SHALL REACH THE BRINK OF BANKRUPTCY AND THEN...EITHER THEY DIE AND WARHAMMER SHALL BECOME FREE USE, OR THEY SHALL REPENT AND WE SHALL RESURGE. AVE IMPERATOR. AVE TTS DEVICE.
‘Since when was saving mankind from the darkness a sign of weakness?’ said the Khan, ‘Sanguinius, my brother and comrade, what do you see? Lend me your foresight.’
Sanguinius shut his eyes. Like that, he appeared drawn and tired, a funerary monument to himself. Dorn supressed a shudder.
‘My sight is not so clear as father’s’, said Sanguinius. ‘The Future is ever in flux. Only some events…’ He paused, finding the words hard to say. ‘Only some events are certain.’
‘Do you see me? What will be the consequences of inaction?’
‘I see fire, and blood, and a world laid waste if you do not act.’
‘If I act?’ said the Khan.
Sanguinius opened his eyes to look at him.
‘There is a grave risk to you. A confrontation unlooked for, and if you survive, a flight from one danger into greater peril.’
‘Who will I face?’
‘I cannot divine.’
‘Will I save lives?’
Sanguinius nodded. ‘Many.’
‘That is what I was made for,’ said the Khan. *‘I will ride out.’*
What a fucking badass.
BASED
@@UltimaOmega777 Yup. The "better" prophecy has at least 3 potential deaths in it, and the Khan's already kickstarting his bike.
That. That's why I fucking love khan, vulkan, and sanguinius. Their utter compassion for mankind and willingness to lay down everything to protect people that may not even know who they are.
@@slipstream9619 is the Khan one of the more considerate Primarchs when it comes to the common people?
Saying, "Corvus Corax is in the Warp," doesn't do justice to him being a terrifying nightmare raven tormenting the fuck out of Lorgar, the Daemon Primarch scared to leave his room or the birb might get him.
The daemon birb might get him cleat disticntion
I love Corax! He becomes a storm of meteoric, artificer armored gigantic Ravens that destroy fortresses and make lorgar shit himself.
Warriors Come Out to Play.mp3
Emo bird is tormenting the choir boy.
I would love to see Corax come back as a space marine equivalent of saint Celestine. Another super powered warp spawn that the imperium is perfectly fine with.
Bricky: it's funny cos I always kinda FORGOT about White Scars.
Still taking your daily dose of FORGET ME JUICE I see. Drill Abbot would be proud
If they can remember their forget me juice, they haven’t been drinking enough forget me juice
So would Macho Man Commissar Savage.
BRRROTHA!!!
Nah, it is because he is supressing traumatic memories. Bricky made a comparison of the White Scars with Buzzsaws and anyone who has played HK ruthlessly supresses any memory associated with Buzzsaws ... Great, now I am gonna hear that sound (bzzzzzz) for the next half hour. :(
@@Istalrison the path will never end, the patch will never end
Actually DK, while Mongolian nomadic culture hasn't changed all that much, one of the major modern integrations they have made is in fact garnering a love of motorcycles
Damn that’s so true, it’s so practical for nomadic life 😁 they rather choose the motorcycle to herd than riding their horses 😂
Their GDP is basically nothing, but they still have things like cell phones and motorcycles because they've managed to adapt their traditional way of life to the 21st century.
@@barsaa._. A motorcycle is fueled by petrol. A horse is fueled by grass. Which do you think they have more of?
@@Minotaur-ey2lg you have no idea of mongol nomadic life. Ima born and raised mongolian i think i know alot more than you
@@barsaa._. No, but I do know about economics. Free grass beats petrol for any price.
The Scars waiting to think about what they should do is actually very on brand for them. They were extremely fast and ruthless in combat but only after careful consideration of exactly how and where all of their forces would attack. They also were expected to learn about painting, caligraphy, literature, philosophy and other things. They were like wise monks until it was time for ruthless carnage
so you are telling me, they where Asians AND Canadians?
@@brothercaptainaurelian1386 more like canada copy asia
So imperium jedi
I see the cutured space marines mind set as a samurai parallel
@@brothercaptainaurelian1386 Implying Canada isn't Asian
The thing that's cool about White Scars is they actually made a chapter that feels like Gengis Khan era Mongolia with a future soldier twist. Like his attitude and the way he leads his men track well (in a general sense) with what we know of Gengis Khan. Whereas something like the Space Wolves are NOT a good representation of Space Vikings. They're just werewolves named Bjorn.
Are you saying Vikings were not just werewolves named Bjorn? Because that's just ridiculous
Booooooo space wolf are Vikings and werewolves now till the end of time !
And then there's 40k ultra marines which claim to be Greek/Roman base but in reality there just gw's favorite faction with little personality
@@adog6495 I find the alpha legion more greek than the ultramarines, Robute is like the embodiment of ceasar
@@adog6495 they're roman in the intense emphasis on logistics and politics, which is pretty important to understand Rome
When the Heresy started, Horus had to make a lot of plans to cripple the strongest Legions to ensure his success: Ultramarines and both Angels were caught in Ruinstorm, Thousand Sons were broken by treachery and Salamanders, Iron Hands and Raven Guard were decimated at Istvaan. However, Fists remained in Sol system and beyond his reach, Wolves remained a menace and White Scars were not an immediate threat and would likely join them. The last one was a horrible oversight, which caused the Traitors hideous casualties with their hit-and-run tactics. Khan was running circles around the enemy Legions and managed to reach Terra before the big siege.
Also, the Scars DID have a large number of Horus-leaning Astartes, but Khan managed to turn most of them back. These repentees became the Ebon Keshig, a black-clad suicide squad which would earn their honour back through death.
That's so cool!
Not 100% accurate, Ebon Keshig were a general 'you did bad' sort of thing, and weren't always to the death.
What you're thinking of were the Sagyar Mazan, suicide squads of White Scars sent on missions they knew would end in death.
The repentees were called the Sagyar Mazan, and while the rest of the Legion was busy utilizing a spyglass teleporter thing, they attacked Mortarion and raised the Void Shields aboard the Swordstorm before setting the generator to overload in order to kill him. More impressively, they nearly succeeded, and only failed because the Death Guard fleet managed to bombard the Swordstorm's shield away seconds before it went boom, allowing Mortarion to escape.
(The Swordstorm was the White Scars Gloriana-class.)
Id like to share when the Khan verbally shot Fulgrim, ‘I wonder which one of you would win in a duel,’ the Angel mused. ‘I would like to see that. You both handle a blade like gods.’
‘Name the place, brother,’ Fulgrim said to the Khan. ‘I’d even travel to Chogoris, if you built a palace to keep the dust from my armour.’
The Khan felt the insult. It stabbed at him, deeply, but his expression never changed. They could never know, none of them, how much their closed fraternity rankled him.
‘You would lose,’ said the Khan.
Fulgrim grinned, but there was something fragile in it. ‘Oh?’
‘You would lose because you would treat it like a game, like you treat everything, and I would not. You would lose because you know nothing of me, and I know everything of you because you shout it from the turrets of your battle cruisers. My prowess remains unknown. You have some reputation as a swordsman, brother, but I make no boast when I tell you I would leave you choking on it.’
THAT FUCKING BURN
Jaghatai don't take NO shit!!
@@legionofthedamned157 Vulkan may be lord of the forge and flame, but Khan is the master of BURNs
@@GearShotgun I like Jaghatai, he's low-key, not loud and boisterous. Just did his thing.
That quote is way better than “I hear you do funny things to your warriors”
What's also cool:
When jaghatai was first brought to terra they flew him past the moon where his flagship was being built
And he looked at it and went "not fast enough" and he basically had them rip out several of their warp engines, (because who needs speed in the warp) so that there was more room for realspace engines
Mind you: this was RIGHT after they plucked him of his planet, all his friends where still just fully regular dudes who've only ever rode HORSES
And he looks at the official that was with them, some big diplomat or whatever, and he basically said "don't think that just because I'm new to all of this, I will blindly accept whatever you put in front of me, if I am truly so important to you, I want things done MY way"
Which is just...
Even his fucking MIND was fast
Maybe he was just excited to finally go fast himself because his fat primarch ass crushed the horses.
... But how would he know how fast space ships went
@@Sage_6reen well, he was already at Terra (or Luna to be more specific)
So he had his initial contact, then some time in his home system (I believe), and then the warp travel time from his homeworld to the sol system.
Being a primarch he can process information absurdly quick, and being the Khan, I think he just mostly focused his studies on going fast, because ofcourse
And then he sees this half-open space ship halfway through being built, looks at it, and says "nah, you're putting the focus on the wrong parts, I want the engines to be bigger"
I don't think he actually knew what speed it could get to down to the miles per hour or anything, but just seeing that it's not all about goin' fast was enough for him to draw his conclusion of it needing to be different to suit his needs
@@madman19931612 I don't mean to sound rude, but I've heard it's more along the lines of
He arrives and is shown the fully built ship by a mechanicus priest or maybe a magos? He explains the functions and such of the ship, and the khan is like nope not good enough. Here's my list of what I need from this ship.
He is still as polite and calm as you Said
@@nolanbaker2360 yeah it's been a long time since I got to borrow his primarch book from my buddy, so you might be right tbh
It's a weird book that sort of glosses over a lot of his pre-contact life, which I think is weird, but I do want to read it again now I know more of the lore
“Warriors of Chogoris! Brothers of the Great Tribe! The star hunt calls you, do you not hear it? The battle’s red edge is your home, the respect of your kinsmen your hearth. Plunge into the enemy's breast like a blade, cut out his heart, and you will know fulfillment. The Emperor has given us strength. In return we give him victory”
Jaghatai Khan.
( I find it so cool that a Primarch was looked at as nothing but an outcast, barbarian and a savage managed to be one of the most loyal and instrumental individuals in saving the Imperium during the Horus Heresy)
Loyal?
Jaghatai Khan, the one everyone expected to turn, but didn’t. Horus the one everyone expected to stay, but didn’t.
Honored be his name
I think the catalyst to his loyalty was his severe lack of ego. He just loved the thrill of the fight!
@@ahkilleuskosmos6836 well jaghatai did consider leaving the imperium to raid and pillage like in his old days and also has one of the most reasonable dude like the only reason he doesn’t join Horus is because despite the emperor being a tyrannical dick the alternative is literal space hell and space satan sucking your soul
If you have a bad time painting white: make sure to clean your tools always when you apply the main color, and use a bright primer before you paint with white.
Honestly if you're willing to do an airbrush, white acrylic ink is the best for painting white.
@@madmanvarietyshow9605 ink is tha best for white ^
Yah, and the trick with white is shading down from an off-white mid-tone.
It’s a very different mindset from eavy metal, which is mostly highlighting up from a mid-tone
@@acanofpepsi4200 You are referring to preshading? When you use a darker tone as the base and then with multiple layers of highlights you gradually go for a lighter color? That's a neat technique too.
@@madmanvarietyshow9605 you can apply it with a brush too but it does work better with an airbrush
Orks are lucky that they are the white scars. Imagine if they were the RED SCARS, FUCKING FASTEST GITS ALIVE!
There is a concept of "enuff fasta" - a high enough speed that does not hinder getting more dakka.
The Blood Ravens and red related chapters must be scary to face for orks
White scars have red lightning. Now u know why orcs think red uns go faster.
@@heavystalin2419 I don't know about that, surely if you can achieve "Enuff fasta", and use it to acquire more dakka, then it would logically follow that with enuff fasta you would as a consequence, also achieve "Enuff dakka."
Which would, of course, be ludicrous.
@@Hawk_of_Battle Use the dakka to go fasta?
Y'all left out the greatest thing he did during the siege of Terra: While standing on the back of a Razorback, the Khan successfully lead a counterattack against the traitor and took one of 2 major spaceports that was near the Imperial Palace, not only cutting down on the number of enemy reinforcements that was coming into the battle, but also bringing the orbital defense batteries back online. Also, the Razorback was going hundreds of miles an hours.
"IT WAS GLOOOOORIOUS!!" - TTS custodian
he managed to be still for almost twenty seconds, which shows a considerable amount of growth for him.
@@henrypaleveda7760granted the razorback was going 200 mph.
Forgot to mention Jaghati was arguably one of the best swordsmen. His murder spree against the Orks. His talk with Fulgrim.
FALL BACK
Every primarch was arguably the best swordsman.
@@kiroakimada2775 Except Corax, Curze, Mortarion, Vulkan, Alpharius Omegon, Angron, Lorgar, Horus, Perturabo and Magnus, who used different weapons and Guilliman who wasn’t that big of swordsman
@@kiroakimada2775 except guilliman got bitch slapped by mortarion in one of the recent books and guilliman had to call for big E to help and take a dump on nurgles garden
Wasn't the lion classed as the best swordsman
"It's kinda like the Ceasar's Legion" - Bricky, describing literal copypaste origin story of the Genghis Khan to the letter.
I suffered just hearing through this without some dozen mentions about the greatest Mongolian ever.
Even down to the names. I mean Ong Khan is not exactly a subtle reference, is it?
I feel your pain brother
1. Khan came first so if anything Ceasers legion stole inform the white scars, I know actual Ceaser did it first but it's fun to pretend.
2. Let us pray he didn't rape as much as Genghis....
Well to be fair the history classes in most EU countries and US won't give much focus on Genghis or his legacy in classes.
Some corrections. First, while both Dorn and Guilliman were initially against Jaghatai Khan being immediately placed in charge of the V legion, Guilliman later specifically states that he "admires the Khan greatly."
Second, Jaghatai Khan's was closest to Magnus and Horus. In fact, after Horus was named Warmaster at the Triumph of Ullanor, he told the Khan that he would have need of Jaghatai and his legion, to which the Khan said "You call, I answer."
Third, the Khan and White Scars were pursuing the remnants of the orks from the Ullanor Campaign.
Fourth, the White Scars had lodges, much like the Luna Wolves, Death Guard, and Emperor's Children. Also, these lodges favored allying with the Warmaster during the Horus Heresy. However, Jaghatai put an end to it (after his fight with Mortarion).
Fifth, after Jaghatai and White Scars pledged to serve the Emperor, it still took his legion another four years to make it back to Terra. He did it by using an ancient device called the Dark Glass to travel to Terra via the Webway.
Sixth, the White Scars are tactically sound. They don't simply charge into battles. They use their speed to surprise or outmaneuver their opponents. In their fight with the Alpha Legion, they pretended to scatter half heartedly to get the Alpha Legion into place and then used their speed to get around the Alpha Legion and take them out.
An alexander the great strateegem: he put slingmen at the flank and resereved chariot cavilry behind them. When the enemy broke off their side infintry to deal with the slings, alex sent the chariots into the exposed side od the enemy and ran through the rear force. Distract, divide, destroy.
Interesting edition to the 5th point, the white scars were entirely alone during those 4 years. Ultramarines and the two angels legions were on ultramar, the wolves and imperial fists were on terra. And the salamanders, Raven Guard and iron hands has been shattered and reduced to Guerilla fighting forces.
Jagahtai and the white scars were the only significant force standing between Horus and Terra during that time. 4 legions were sent after them, including an entire 3rd of the Emperors children. It was only at the end when Horus couldn’t delay any longer that the entire death guard under Mortarion was deployed to hunt them.
And they still got away to terra anyway.
When bricky says that the white scars were arguably the most important legion in the heresy. He’s not wrong.
My favourite part of the Scars book is when they're up against the Alpha Legion fleet (which is made up of a bunch of big cargo ships refitted to look like battleships) and the Khan decides to take over the movement of the fleet. They start floating around in seemingly random formations as if they lost all coordination which confuses the alpha legion. All the while, there's the narrator explaining how the Khan never adorned his fleet with fancy shit like fulgrim or made changes like ferrus manus would but instead the one change he made was to fucking nitro charge all the ship's engines to make them hyper-fast. Then the white scars ships come out of this random formation to all perfectly face forward and hit the go button, blasting past the alpha legion with ease.
I imagine he had an actual stick-shift on his bridge that he moved to sport mode.
We did it all at once, too. Every ship, all at once, all angled towards the Alpha Legion and shot forwards. The Imperial Navy would need to take hours to set up such a maneuver.
We did it in seconds.
The concept of a Mongolian theme space marines chapter is pretty cool.
Meanwhile in fantasy
Khurgan : today we shall have our first victory in ages
Tarmukhan: yes
Sigmar holy order: for lorgar I mean volkmar the emperor son prepare the the world eaters I mean the lord inquisition
Khurgan: tham you Italians
Tarmukhan : no why I am white scar chaos never win why
Me: plot armor
Dam you Mongolians stop breaking my wall
I’m hoping we see the mongols in total warhammer 3 but I have a feeling they’re gonna be chaos along side the norscans but we’ll see
I’m so looking forward to the cathay units
@@RyujinRoninReach ogres have already been confirmed for total war and they arent chaos, they were the original warhammer mongols.
Hobgoblins would be the only other mongol faction, and given their importance to that area of the setting around cathay they could also be added as dlc
I guess the hung are also a thing but theyre just norsca lite
@ Fugl Featherbird kurgans wanna know your location for insulting the original owner of the land and halt-orc and centaur the alpha male of the hobgoblin that win 90% percent of their wars
One of my favourite details about the Dornian Heresy is that it's the White Scars who fall to Slaanesh because of their utmost desire for freedom.
Is that still going on? Heard about it years ago but never read into it
@@Or_Am_I_Alpharius I'm not sure if it's still going
And there need for speed. They'd probably hang out with Doomrider.
@@Frosty-kz4om I don't really think so, but there is the ongoing Roboutian Heresy, in which the White Scars (like all the canon loyalist Legions) also fall to Chaos, though not quite to Slaanesh.
Dornian Heresy Slaanesh White Scars are full into speed and shinny drip.
Man I was hoping Bricky would bring about how the Khan disagreed with the Emperor when it came to certain parts of the Imperial Truth and how he legit had a super mode.
Super mode ?
@@romainvincent8918 I almost want to describe it as him going ultra instinct because he becomes *even faster* while also having his body become super efficient. Enough so where he fights an entire army of Orks by himself......and makes them Run in legit terror because he's just slaughtering all of them. None survive.
@@parkermaisterra8532 that is SO cool! Does it have a name?
@@romainvincent8918 The leader of his personal guard says the state is called the alakh geh and describes it as, "where the thought alone could kill, where the distance between intention and action was made nothing, and where vengeance became a living thing with both extension and immanence."
So yeah a fucking super mode
@@parkermaisterra8532 dude gets in the "zone" xD you're right it's basically a murder version of Ultra Instinct. Anyone within his close vicinity if he is a foe would get immediately annihilated. Where can i read about it? Is there a book about the Kahn?
Bricky, what the f? How can you say Jaghatai loved the Imperial truth? He absolutely was disgusted by it. He even said it to the Big E's face
Hopefully we’ll get a correction in the legion follow up to come.
Oh?
What was his problem with it? I am just curious because I agree with Khand, f*ck Imperial Truth.
@@varisugocsay1152 The Khan was already aware of Chaos (not in its entirety) before meeting the Emperor. He wanted to educate people about the Warp instead of hiding it.
@@vishishify You mean The Khan? If yes it was a good idea, the Imperial Truth biggest problem that it is fundamentally a lie and bad phylosophy for a society. 1, Supernatural exist 2, You need more than muh technology for a society to work
Fun note on jump pack White Scars, those were mostly the scars originally from Terra. Khan was the one who implemented a focus on mass mounted warfare.
Khan: "I see some of my new Legion ride mechanical horses."
Emps: "The bikes, yes."
Khan: "Why aren't they all riding them, tho?"
Emps: "What?"
Khan: "These 'bikes'. Why aren't they all riding them? It would make them go faster."
Emps: "I mean, they're your Legion. You can do what you want."
Khan: "We're going to need more bikes. Many more bikes."
Nice.
I wonder if they ever argued with there Primarch on the use of jump packs.
Huh, I commented here before.
@@ultramarinescaptain3840 from what I know of primarchs, probably not. From what I know of the white scars, they probably did
Now I can't unsee the mental image of Vulkan in a waiting lobby with like a dispenser, a water cooler, some nice cushioned chairs (which are ridiculously smaller than him but can somehow resist his weight), a countdown clock over a door. And him just fidgeting, twidling his thumbs, grabing something from the dispenser, drinking water/coffee, whistling and looking at the clock.
Or honestly, just him sitting straight and completely still with like a huge dumb closed-mouth smile on his face while he stares at the clock, hands crossed.
Poor Vulkan in the waiting room lol
He didn't like the Imperial Truth. He viewed it as a lie and it took him up until the siege of Terra to view it as necessary.
Ironically, of course, far from being necessary, the Imperial Truth/Lie is the almost direct cause of the Heresy as a whole.
Jaghatai Khan is fast
Alpharius is SUS
Guilliman has Ultra-depression
Konrad is dead
Mortarion is in dire need of a shower
TTS is cancelled
All are the truth and none are lies, some unfortunate and some quite the opposite.
We of the Horde of Jaghatai may not have the recognition of the Imperial Fists, though we too fought at the Siege of Terra. We may not have the tactical prowess of the Ultramarines, though we too were raised as more than mere warriors. We may not have the Techmarines of the Iron Hands, or the duelists of the Dark Angels, or the viciousness of the Space Wolves. What we offer is ours and ours alone. If you do not know more, then we have no interest in educating you on our ways and customs.
But if you wish to be more open-minded than many others, then I offer you a tale of quick-drawn blood, sullied blades, sheathed steel, traitors and unexpected allies...
My Captain, please, teach us more!
@@lawrenceblade4437 Tzeentch offers knowledge too just saying :o
@@Dante3214 Tzeentch will turn you into a space worm in exchange for your loyalty, the Khan offers you honor and a warrior's death.
Bro, you are a warrior poet...Just like the Khan!
@@noahmehringer29 Many of my Chapter are. Others see us as savages, wild butchers like the executioners of the Space Wolves. We care little for what they think. If they do not wish to see the truth, we will do nothing to force them.
I'd imagine White scare chaos as centaurs but instead of horses it's bikes.
So like the MoTaur progressive commercials?
superbike fairly oddparents?
They would just be a whole army of daemon engines of White Scars who are possessed and have there flesh melded onto there bikes...horrifying
They should have this as loyalist dreadnoughts for the White Scars
The junkions from the Transformers movie
Yall forgot the part where he hauls the noble part of magnus’ soul back to terra and Malcador merged it with a loyalist thousand son that had the flesh change, creating the first supreme grand master of the grey knights. Epic vid as always! Love the new intro theme!
Sadly, that act was the nail in the coffin of Magnus' loyalty. Had that last part of his soul still been there, he would have gladly turned his sorceries upon the traitors, and protected the civilians of Terra.
@@morganbarnham5427 true. Poor guy even killed malcador in his rage.
I also think Khan kept his Librarian program running even when Big-E wanted to shut it down, so his Legion was way better at killing Demons with their Psykers as opposed to everyone else when the Heresy actually broke out.
Wouldn't they still have Chaplains?
The Kahn is in my eyes the most perfect/sane Primarch. While Sanguinius was messed up by his Visions, Guillyman filled with arrogance and blind and Rogal beeing... Rogal... , The Kahn had actually a balanced personality and knew his place in the wide galaxy. I loved every bit of text I read about him.
He´s almost my favourite Primarch!
Also it is canon that he is now in the Webway building his own Drukhari Harem while ryding his speed bike together with the rest of the Squat Bikers.
And I will fight anyone who thinks otherwise!
I wouldn't call guilyman arrogant or blind well compared to his brothers at least. I would say next to the kahn and corax he was the most sane. You have to be when your a master diplomat.
Calling Guilliman arrogant is wrong though.
You can give him a lot of criticism, but he's literally designed to be the most efficient bureaucrat ever... and arrogance would lower his efficiency.
Big G is far from arrogant. He has earned every bit of pride he shows. He created the largest of empires amongst all his brothers. Had plans after the war was over. Was such a bad ass Horus sent 2 legions to deal with him, 1 of them rivaled his own in sheer size plus had chaos f****** and the other was led by an unstoppable force called Angron who stop a Titan from stepping on him. Of all the "loyal" Primarchs he is the only one that attempted to do his duty. Protect humanity. The rest of them have fucked off and left humanity to fall or had sons to stupid to keep track of their body. Now his is back because he had the foresight to tell a magos to figure out a way to bring him back, why fuck could the others do that? All you lesser chapter lovers can keep looking up and hating what success looks like.
@@Ashtor1337 “fuck off”
Nah most of them either
-died
-got taken
-went on some quest that had something to do with reviving the emperor
The only one who didn’t do their job was Corvus whose literally wasting his time hunting lorgar in the warp. Otherwise everyone else had a good reason.
FASTER FASTER FASTER
White Scars confirm to be accelerationist..
The White Scars are the Capitalists of speed!
We must secure a future for our fast children.
We must become one with the speed force
the orks would like to challenge them to a speed race!
I get that reference
So I fight for a Father who I never loved, against a brother that I did. I defend an empire that never wanted me against an army that would have taken me in a heartbeat.
With that quote, I'll actually start watching.
When you're Khan, you rhyme naturally
@Naveen KV That is correct. The Khan would be welcomed with open arms.
The Khan was also originally intended to be sent to Chemos, the planet Fulgrim ended up on, but the Eldar Laughing God switched him and Fulgrims pods. Funny how the laughing primarch has the laughing god looking after him lol
Where is this from what?
I wanted to say that, but I have no idea who said that information
@@r.cdahuman7682 There was a video about Fulgrim's lore and it mentioned this, it didn't mention the laughing God doing the switching though.
@@r.cdahuman7682 Magnus shard revealed it I believe.
Edit: which also means this impacted Big E's master plan a bit, since the two primarchs paths got change so much from this. This also proves, YES swaping planets does change a primarch a hell alot.
I'm just imaging The Hu wolf totem on hover bikes now.
Hu is the white scars favorite band
Can't blame em, they're great
@@Jormyyy also find it funny the guys doing all the star wars memes when the white scars leader looks like the lead of the Hu and they did that fantastic star wars song for that starwars game.
I saw a comment just like this and I cannot stop imagining that
He has a hair squig just to prove how much of a chad he is.
Bro, you made me laugh so hard. Thank you.
I wished you guys talked more about the white scars culture. They are actually much more than just "Warrior, fight, fight more, repeat", they adore knowladge, arts and poetry, and think they must be more than savages like the others, and dislike that the other legions (except Magnus and Sanguinius who shared his passion for other crafts) saw the Scars as only dim-witted barbarians like the World Eaters or Space Wolves
Barbarians spacewolves are, dim witted, they are not
@@krog2371 unlike the Lion, Russ hid his tact behind his beast. Lion hid his beast behind his tact
This is the primarch episode. Legion episodes come after.
He said there’s a White Scars episode coming next they’ll probably cover it there
I really enjoy the characterization that the white scars are super cultured, but because of their culture other people call them barbarians. And the white scars are justifiably insulted by that.
The Lion had a horrible upbringing, yet was raised on a death world and remained loyal. DO THE LION AND DARK ANGELS EPISODE!!
Save Blood Angels for Halloween...
As a Son Of Sanguinius, i approve
There’s an obscure bit of lore that states the likelihood of the Khan and Fulgrim having their destination planets swapped.
As well as Russ
Vulkan came from a death world too.
The Lion was so blind he couldnt see his own chapter falling to chaos... That is unless he has turned. Even with the best gear he couldn't hold a candle to most his brothers. Many primarchs fell on death worlds. Some landed on worse.
The more I hear about Khan the more I like him. He's very no-nonsense, he knows what he likes. He's true to himself whilst at the same time acting beyond self interest.
A wise man once said...
The Primarchs are just a part of the autism spectrum personified, each.
"he is Anakhan" Cegorach is pleased
*BaZiNgA* heard in the background in a very deep and ominous voice
Fulgrim: I heard you do strange things to your ships!
The Jag: I heard you do strange things to your warriors.
This burn was actually the bigger than the istavan fire storm and the sacking of prospero combined
This is a really good burn.
Still think Rylanor did the greatest burn.
@@guy_autordie he had it steeping for more than a million nights; anything that marinates that long is going to absorb a lot of flavor.
Angron and Curz as the doofy dragons to Morty's angry one made me spit out my drink. Good one shy!
My dog died this morning and this is helping me to make it a little less hard.
The fallen shall be forever remembered as the Emperor's finest
🙏
The emperor required his service in the immaterium.
I'm sorry for your loss. The fallen shall be remembered.
Dorn being a gloater is absolutely not the case, his conquering in the great crusade was the most simple defeat them and leave tactics, he didn't even bother assimilating them so the planets he taken were all culturally distinct, and this made rebellions less likely in the short-term, he is definitely no nonsense and quite efficient like Perturabo, though not to the extent where he will keep fighting on despite the visible strain on his forces like perturabo did (until the iron cage)
This is especially showcased in the battle with Alpharius/Omegon, which he never said a word and just got on with it whilst Alpharius/Omegon was always talking to try and convert him.
Didn’t say a thing and just beheaded Alpharius, yes it was alpharius. Omegon is alive, alpharius is dead.
@@cryamistellimek9184 I think omegon was the one who died personally
@@boogiewoch9507 It’s been stated out of universe by the author that Alpharius is dead, in the book Omegon feels him die. In and out of universe, ironically, the only thing 500 percent sure of for the alpha legion is that Alpharius is dead and so many people are unwilling to accept it.
@@cryamistellimek9184 That was in 2017, John French DID probably think Alpharius was dead back then, or knew "alpharius" was dead anyway, this proves nothing, the "alpharius" who rogal killed was using the pale spear and scale armor of Omegon, which sure, alpharius could use omegons gear to pretend to be omegon, but I don't see why he would do that, everything you have mentioned is old lore, people saying Alpharius being the one who survived is based off of the new book, head of the hydra, and let's talk meta evidence too; why would gw go through the trouble of fleshing put alpharius backstop so much with barely writing anything about omegon just to have him killed insignificantly, all signs point to Alpharius being alive, and I apologise if its presumptive of me, but find a summary or read head of the hydra, surely you couldn't keep this opinion after you have done so.
@@boogiewoch9507 I have, and despite it being old lore it has not been retconned. Black library has openly said they still maintain the position that Alpharius is dead and Omegon is head of the alpha legion. It’s concrete, from the words of the company, the author, and in lore internal monologues THAT HAVE NOT BEEN RETCONNED. Why would we give sanguinius so much to work with if he’s destined to be iced anyway? Why? Because it makes them a character so their death has weight. What I believe is not an opinion, it is concrete fact and not taking it as that is blatant denial.
I might be getting some details wrong, but something I like about Jaghatai is that sure he's down to conquer the galaxy for the imperial truth and shit, but he actually disagreed with ol' Emps on the warp bits, because I believe Chogoris had some very minor involvement with or knowledge about warp entities, so Jaghatai knew enough to know that the Emperor was full of shit, and didn't agree with his reasoning.
I also find it amusing that the Dark Angels had a 10,000 year panic attack when just some of their members went traitor because they were following orders from Luther that they thought were legit (sure Caliban broke and lots of the Fallen are still around, but details), whereas a solid half of the White Scars wanted to actively join Horus in his rebellion, but the Scars just don't give a shit.
And the name "White Scars" was a mistranslation that they never bothered to correct. Just like the Space Wolves.
Yo please elaborate
@@Yominication During one of the short stories where Revalion (no idea hownto spell her name) is talking to The Khan and some of his inner council, they explain that they are the "Ordo of Jhagatai". But in Chagorin. So with their white armor, the iterators penciled down a name, and the 5th can't be bothered to care
@@AlphariusXXth Sounds like a giant retcon to be honest, the story about them scaring their own faces makes way more sense to me.
They do scar their faces in ritual, but that's not why they are called the scars.
‘We were Talskar, that was the origin of it,’ the Khan said. For some reason, sitting there in the presence of this dazzling, ethereal presence, he felt there should be some explanation. ‘Our livery now, as it was on Chogoris, is white. They misheard the first, they observed the second. Their words, not ours.’
- Jaghatai Khan to Sanguinius, on their first meeting -
The dude straight up ripped out the heart of a Keeper of Secrets with his bare hands
The chug chug massacre was one of the most bloody battles of the horus heresy
*yes*
yes
The ruinstorm wasnt actually keeping the scars out. The Alpha legion had a xeno tech pylon array the Kabal gave them that basically did the same thing. Until the alpha legion infiltrated the alpha legion and flew it into a star.
I am Alpharius
@@Ashtor1337FOOL i am alpharius
@@molwarion we are ALPHARIUS
Just as planned - Alpharius (Omegon)
Motorcycles are _very much_ a Mongolian thing IRL. Look it up, its actually relatively common for Mongolians to literally live in traditional yurts but fuck around with drones and travel by motorcycle preferentially.
Old habits die hard.
When you get to blood angels, you can Segway really well from Sanguinius and the Chapter into a bookclub episode about Devastation of Baal. The book catches them up to Girly-Man’s current shenanigans. Also BUGS.
Also Dante (still the book), my favourite
Gotta say, loving that added depth to the intro music. Makes it feel girthier.
Pretty sure Fenris and Nocturne would be considered death worlds, one of constant fire the other constant ice. Yet Russ and Vulkan remained loyal.
Fenris does have that season where the planet gets closer to the Sun,most of it becomes ocean,with lava and a giant genestealer.
So was the lion... But he is half traitor.
Living on fenris is like living through a full blown apocalypse every year
@@lordcommissar7813 Isnt that basically most places on 40K?
@@giuseppe9653 eh not all are bad as fenris.
Every year they have a time called the season of fire where all the ice in the world begins to melt and the oceans boil during this time all the people are forced to hunt for new land or ice formations as there homes are destroyed there forced to war with each other just for the few spots of ice left that they can try to live on untill the season of fire ends and the world turns right back into a frozen ball of ice
Games workshop: *Puts references to Genghis Khan in Jaghatai Khan's backstory so unsubtle they make "Sly Marbo" look like a zodiac letter*
Also games workshop: *Writes Jaghatai Khan as using the same techniques for integrating other tribes as Genghis Khan did in real life*
Bricky: "oMg JuSt LiKe CaEsAr'S lEgIoN!"
Bless His cotton socks. 😂
Not a fan of fallout?
Theres a reason for the "Ridiculous" part in Adeptus Ridiculous
Int 1 moment
@@TheEldritchGod you missed the point
Finally, my favorite primarch
Yeah, definitely top three for me though. My favorite of the “warrior” primarchs
My name is Jaghatai Khan, and I am the fastest man alive. To the outside world, I'm a Primarch, but secretly, with the help of my friends at Imperium of Man, I fight Xeno and find other meta-humans like me. I hunted the man who killed my mother, but in doing so, I opened up our world to new threats. And I am the only one fast enough to stop them. I am... The Khan!
Oh wow, a White Scars episode after TTS was unable to show Jaghatai in the show
Wonder if that was planned
:,(
So Arch recently covered the Scars novel in the Horus Heresy, and he brings up an interesting point that EVERYONE seems to forget that Jaghatai and the White Scars exist when they're not around, and Magnus brings up the notion that Jaghatai is actually a talented psyker, but the Khan dismisses him. Magnus is under the impression that Jaghatai is just trying to be slick by hiding his powers, but Jaghatai acts as if the concept has never really occurred to him that he might be psychically gifted, even though there is such a prolific psyker presence in the White Scars in the form of the Storm Seers, and Jaghatai himself both pushed forward the creation of the Librarius and had his Legion disregard the Edict of Nicea, blatantly disregarding an order from the Emperor that even Magnus and the Thousand Sons hesitated to disobey.
So the theory goes that Jaghatai Khan is actually a psyker with the natural ability to make people forget he exists when not in his presence, similar to Corax and his Wraith Slip allowing him to turn invisible by blocking the perception others have of his existence; Corvus can't be seen, but Jaghatai can't be remembered. Which fits because both have a heavy association with birds; Corvus and ravens, and Jaghatai and hawks. The theory also goes that Jaghatai isn't aware that he has this power and just assumes people keep forgetting about him, which is why he is bothered by Magnus insinuating he's actually a powerful psyker, and this ability has been passed on to his Legion to a certain extent, hence why the White Scars have a long history of success, and yet they are rarely ever acknowledged to even exist, let alone be derided by their contemporaries for being 'dishonorable savages'.
Ew.
It is nothing as explicit as "forgetting ". It is more like an anti-memetic effect that causes people to subconsciously dismiss him and his legion as "relevant", a "threat", or "important"; cognitive camouflage would be a good term for it. It doesn't actually make people forget them, surely, if you ask people to recall it they do so immediately and if you ask them to list all 20 legions and their primarchs they would also do that without fault...Though Jaghathai would no doubt be the final name put on the list by practically anyone you'd ask. You can remember them. You just can't find any reason to until they burst from their ambush positions from the planet you knew had a white scars on them.
It is possible that this eventually also backfired tho; with Commoragh not recognizing the value in leaving the world of the Khan well the fuck alone and prevent his entire legion from trying to kick their shit in, before the Khan entered their city becoming a massive threat that *nobody ever bothers to report to the higher ups because they don't see any reason to*
So he forgets he has the power to make ppl forget.. Sounds fair enough
@@giuseppe9653 To forget something, you have to know it in the first place, and the implication is that Jaghatai simply doesn't know he has such an ability, let alone that he may actually be a psyker.
@Naveen KV He's aware that the Imperium doesn't acknowledge him and that Horus and the Traitors probably would because his defection would be a turning point in the Heresy, but he hasn't acknowledged the possibility that he is a psyker.
Horus has a similar musing where he talks about how he is surrounded by the worst the galaxy has to offer despite the nobility of his cause, because only his outcast brothers would ever work with him to depose the Emperor.
Hell, Perturabo also has a moment where he talks about how the Emperor made him undertake the most thankless tasks and subject his sons to constant wars of attrition, never once considering that the Emperor gave him virtually limitless freedom and it was his own narrow-minded callousness that caused the grinding down and ignominy of his Legion.
IT'S ABOUT TIME. FAVORITE CHAPTER. FAVORITE PRIMARCH. I'M GONNA PRE
GG
The one chapter crazy enough to out-ride Doomrider.
Somewhere on Chogoris a silver-coated head screams a muffled "I DO COCAAAAAAINE"
I understood the reference
I also have his mini. Now I want to build it badly.
Your blood is loyal to the clan but this scar shows your loyalty to me.
While Dorn, Sanguinious and the Emperor were teleporting onto the Vengeful Spirit, the Khan was still out fighting on terra. the teleport strike was a very short window where the Emperor had to rally about as many men as possible in the span of about 60 seconds.
When yall do the blood angles and sanguinius you better bring up how sanguinius canonically has a sort of Italian accent and how Dante is a very based sad tired old man who got to hear the silent king speak and has led the legion longer than sanguinius ever did. Girlyman very likes Dante, gave him a whole segmentum yaknow?
Dante is also the most italian name you can think of, the guy invented italian
I would think that the khan's relationship to fulgrim is important. The fact cegorach switch their birth planets only for the Khan to go into the webway(aka cegorach's home), and we know cegorach wants to bring slaanesh down. Also the fact that fulgrim fell to slaanesh and slaanesh tried to tempt him is also a thing that will come up when the Khan returns.
Khan falls to slaanesh and becomes hells angels.
Don't forget that Leman Russ thought he can beat anyone (His brothers) in one vs one except Sanguinius. He forgot that Jaghatai Khan is a sword meme.
He said that he could beat anyone except Sanguinius, because he was just the best swordsman of all the primarchs, and Conrad Curze, because of his insanity.
“Who will stand with you against the aether-weavers now?
Angron? Lol.
Curze? Lmao.”
- Jaghatai Khan, Primarch of the White Scars
I hope they will do Corax and Raven guard some day. He's not an edgelord as he looks like
...look, I love Corax with a burning passion, but the guy turns into a dæmon raven. He is second place only to Spawn in Edgelordness. But, also like Spawn...he makes it work.
@@wiilov I hope he will return with a dope ass model following Lorgar's ass
@@wiilov also, the dude had not the best choldhood being a slave, but not became fucked up (at least totaly fucked up)
Same as the two missing primarchs
He's an edgelord alright.
A really well made edgelord
I feel like to spite Bricky there should be an animated intro that’s JoJo as hell with the end being in the squeakiest anime voice of all time saying “season 2 b-b-baka”
This would hurt me but more importantly it would hurt him worse
Make it so.
I’m so fucking happy that you’re finally covering my favorite Primarch and Legion. If there was any fun theme 40k could play with in its setting, it’s gotta be space Mongolian conquerors on jet bikes. Fuck. Yes.
“Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their women… while proceeding at high velocity.”
MY FAVORITE CHAPTER AND PRIMARCH I WAITED FOR SO LONG
Khan arriving at Prospero: where’s Alderaan? I only see rocks and rubble.
It’s said all the primarchs represent a specific aspect of the Emperor/Humanity.
I think that the Khan is meant to represent that untamable part of the human spirit that yearns for freedom and personal fulfillment
That including libido, the man was based on ghenghis khan....
Who else says "Honored be his name" every time they say Jaghatai Khan, Honored be his name
I too say it sir, whenever I think of Jaghatai Khan, honored be his name.
You kinda made it sound like the Khan was all for the idea of the imperial truth which wasn't so much the case, he hated the idea of hiding the truth of the warp's existence from the rest of humanity and to a degree he was pissed with big E for pulling the wool over humanity's collective eyes. Also minor nit pick, the Khan didn't directly change the legion's name to white scars, rather it was the imperium who gave them that name through a lack of understanding. Overall though I'm glad y'all were able to give the Khan some love and I look forward to the legion's episode
Regarding the idea of Loyalist Primarchs having boring childhoods, well, there are a few...
... outliers.
Man, just try to imagine a horse capable of carrying a Primarch.
I think the word you're looking for is elephant
Even with a belgian draft horse or a shire horse, it would look like a grown man sitting on a shetland pony.
There's a HongKong Comic which had a guy as big as a primarch with a horse as tall as a primarch. Forgot the name of the comic
I hope you quoted the "we stayed true" speech, regardless of context it is truly inspiring and a generally good words to abide by
New headcannon. Finding the relics of vulkan reduces his respawn timer.
them even mentioning blood angels is gettimg me SO HYPED FOR SANGUINIUS
The white scars who were allied with horus were fighting with the loyalists on the khans flagship until he teleported back up and all fighting immediately stopped. He basically said "knock the shit off, we are going to Terra" and they all just obeyed. The traitors were shamed but allowed to still be part of the legion
So he allowed chaos back into his ranks...
@@Ashtor1337 They weren't chaos yet.
@@Ashtor1337 Like the other dude said they werent corrupted by chaos. They were more tricked into following the warmaster and believed that the Emperor had turned his back on them
Jaggy, getting all the conflicting messages: "The ~girls~ tribes are fighting again. Hold on lads..."
40k could make for a pretty good yugioh style anime
the protagonist would be an imperial guard player just getting into 40k
the friend who got him into 40k who plays the lamentors space marine chapter
his friend who plays astral claws
the token girl and/or love interest who runs sisters of battle
the smart guy who uses admech but his advice never works
the friendly rival who plays orks and goes from proper british to ork speak
a cranky old necron player whos been playing since rouge trader
a cult of genestealer players led by a tyranid player etc
Don't be silly, the love interest plays Craftworld Eldar and then has an evil arc playing Dark Eldar.
Sisters of Battle obviously need to be played by the MC's sister who is introduced in a plot twist.
You now owe GW money you had a good idea for the franchise.
Oh no, good luck with the fan work given GW's guidelines on them being illegal now XD
@@strongback6550 No. They need a smug asshole Kaiba type rival to play Eldar. Or maybe Tau.
@@jaketheberge1970 Kaiba plays Primaris exclusively
That Assassinorum meme is literally the best thing I've seen all week. Iconic
Also the Khan killed a greater deamon while screaming "FOR THE EMPEROR!!!" that quite pog
Poggers
39:35 Answer; not really actually. In 1st Edition, the Whitescars (before it was White Scars) filled the role that the Ultramarines now fill. They were the original Space Marine Chapter in 1st Edition lore, and as such were the template for every other Space Marine Chapter since them.
Wait what
@@Yominication Yeah. Alfa Busa went over the White Scars in "If the Emperor Had a Podcast"
“White Scars: No really, it’s true.”
@@ShahbazBokhari It wasn't Alfa making a parody of White Scar lore. His characters were basically holding a podcast book club going through all the White Scar codex's, then the original First Edition Book of the Astronomica, then the Hunt for Valdorias novel.
Palatine was a high ranking court official in Rome and it's successors. Basically a governor or regent. The Electorate of the Palatinate was a country within the HRE whose rulers (the Counts Palatine) were prince-electors of the HRE.
So, all in all, GW actually got one vaguely right.
Holy Roman Empire?
Jaghatai is a top teir primarch and definitely needs more love
something i feel needs to be mentioned about the khan is that he is the only guy in 40k that have made orks run away in fear. so when he was fighting the orks one of his close spacemarines died. this put the khan into a rage and he began moving so fast and killing orks so fast that they ran awey in true fear of him.
also something i also wanna mention is the greatest burn in the galaxy. Fulgrim was taunting the khan and said "i heard you do strange things to your ships" to witch the khan replied. "I heard you do strange things to you sons"
Alpha Legion made the orks run in fear too.
When you go over emperor’s children please cover Rylanor, or even give him his own episode.
also mention the stringstorm song
Ah, yes. Speedy Mongolians on Bikes and their Primarch is literally Flash and Drukhari ars cheeks clapper
P.s. By the way, for some reason there is a lot(well, not) Rule of the 3rd and 4th featuring Yvraine and Emperor of the Ultramarines but it couldn’t be said for Khan and Lilith(Famous Wych Arena Champion of Drukhari)
Genghis Khan: That's my descendant
Why would Lilith have intercourse with a monkey? Don't answer that. Also I doubt you could even hug a Succubi or Wych there ankles, elbows, and every blade of hair is made of knives that can cut power armour or at least cut into the gaps. And they're not maidens or women they're Eldar. Practically androgynous and genderless. More akin to a weapon in biological form than anything else. Try hugging a knife. Yeah, that's Drukhhari for you.
That would be because we *fucking hate* the Drukhari. There is nothing we value more than freedom, and as such, we despise nothing more than slavery.
*Mongolian throat singing intensives*
he's not overlooked, he's just so fast that our eyes cant keep up.
This probably isnt the right place to make a request, but Id actually enjoy learning about Corax and the Raven Guard through you guys!
Im curious about your take on Ferrus and Iron Hand but Im afraid it would be only memes without the tale of him being probably one of the most tragic case of all the primarchs, the story about his ideals and how he lost himself upon being betreyed by his most beloved friend and brother and I dont know if i want to see this. Sincererly your (probably) only Ferus Mannus fan.
Never forget the Khan killing so many Orks so fast they were wary to go fight him. He made Orks scared to fight him
"Never surrender! Never give up!" -
Jaghati Kahn
XD
"Going faster than those knife-eared assholes" and "of low quality" is all I know about the white scars
Shy's editing is such a gift. Bless you Shy, you're awesome!