Talk Is Jericho: Chris Jericho vs. Triple H
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- Опубліковано 8 лис 2022
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In July, The Jericho Chronicles made its way to London and featured stories about some of the biggest matches and feuds of Jericho’s career. Hear the details behind his first-ever match, his time with CMLL in Mexico, and how he made his way to Japan. He details some of the best matches he had with Ultimo Dragon while in Japan and how a young Mick Foley told Paul Heyman about what he’d seen. He breaks down the mask vs. title match he had against Juventud Guerrera. He runs down all the circumstances leading up to his bouts with Triple H once he got to WWE - including Last Man Standing and Hell In A Cell. Additionally, he recalls his favorite Shawn Michaels feud, working with Rey Mysterio in 2009, wrestling Kenny Omega at the Tokyo Dome, Stadium Stampede, and taking the giant swing from Claudio Castagnoli on top of the cage at AEW Blood and Guts. - Розваги
I remember watching the match he's talking about at 2:39 when it was originally broadcast. That match was a storytelling masterpiece and he's right, the crowd absolutely lost their minds. People forget how massively over the Y2J character was in 2000. Some nights some crowds he literally got bigger pops than The Rock, and this was during the height of the attitude era.
That's the match that drew me into becoming a WWE fan. A month or so prior to this, I was flipping through channels and happened to catch Jericho's entrance. Very charismatic entrance and stance. Engaged with the crowd. And he had a mic. I don't remember how many more episodes of RAW or Smackdown I caught- but Jericho really caught my attention and I started intentionally tuning in. At this time, he was feuding and trash-talking Stephanie McMahon. When I saw the match that was stricken from the book, it cemented me as a fan. I doubt anyone expected for him to win (and in the end, he didn't), as he was clearly the mid-card underdog and it was just a RAW match and not a pay-per-view. So it was such a shock when it seemed he won the title. If he had been given the right push, I think WWE could have had another star on par with Rock and Austin. He was good on the mic and I think at this time, he was a very charismatic babyface (even though he's been mostly known for his heel runs).
In the AE, every act was over. Didn't matter if you were a singles, tag, midcard, in title contention or not.
@@Speedyreedy1218 I wouldn't say that. The attitude era was great but it still had its failures. Tazz's run was an absolute trainwreck.
@@Almatty I said every act was over. I didn't say every angle was great. Plenty of examples.
1. Tazz over, despite not winning a title. He got a crazy pop at the Rumble 00. Got pop wrestling HHH in Philly APR 00 as ECW champ. His feud vs Lawler in the summer was a catalyst into his announcing career.
2. Bossman's sympathy card to Show's deceased father was so cruel it was hilarious.
3. Mae Young giving birth to a hand was disgusting. But, we got humor out of Mae and she made Mark Henry's Sexual Chocolate character extend a little.
4. Torri as a wrestler was ok, but as a character, brought nothing to the table until she was turned heel and put in Millennium DX.
5. Al Snow, constantly buried by himself, and Mick Foley in 99 and 00. But people responded to Pepper being fed to him by Bossman. Even the Headcheese tag team with Blackman.
6. 2 Cool was a very over tag team despite only Edge/ Christian, Dudleys, and Hardys getting the actual tag title runs. Same deal with T&A.
7. Radicalz were an over heel stable during their debut despite not meeting the typical height/weight look Vince preferred.
8. Despite the height and personality mismatch, the Chyna/Eddie G pairing was a hit.
9. The 24/7 concept being added to the Hardcore title was dumb. But it led to more people getting TV time. Crash and Blackman made it interesting.
2000-2001 Chris Jericho will always be his best work IMO. I hated when he turned heel.
“You’re not worth the paper your contract is printed on.”
I can’t understand why anyone would want to leave the WWE
Hard lesson to learn, when people say "call me if you need anything," they don't mean it, they don't even realize what they're saying and they don't expect you to take you seriously
What's worse is some people genuinely do mean it and will be confused when they aren't called
@@GoldenHalo yep. I'm one of those people. I genuinely mean it when I say it and as selfish as it sounds I'm always so gutted when the people I care about tell me they needed someone to talk to after the fact like dude I've told you numerous times I'm here for you 24/7. Am I not good enough or something? Then again I'm a massive hypocrite cause I'm in the middle of the worst time of my life and yet I feel like everyone has abandoned me and I can't talk to any of the people I should consider my friends except for one so what are you gonna do?
@@livingdead0101 I have been in a similar situation. Friends definitely help, but I can assure you that it's them leaving that hurts, as my friends didn't save me from drowning. I did. I really hope things get better for you, nobody deserves to go through hell but ultimately it humbles us. I know I'm just an internet stranger, but if you want I'll hear you out too.
Also, if ppl abandoned you, you aren't a hypocrite as the situations are not comparable then
He gave him his number dummy. If someone does that they do mean it. Unless you get the number from a scumbag like paul levesque
I’m one of those few who actually means it. I don’t extend my hand out to everyone because not everyone deserves it.
Bruh that sign to stay away from the Spanish announce table is hilarious, there was literally a time when specifically only the spanish announce table would be broken every week 🤣
Happy Birthday Chris Jericho 🎉🎉
I went crazy when Y2J won the WWF from HHH. I was so pissed when they took it away from him on the same night.
Jericho acting like he didn't recall the same ppv . He was just asked about after answering the question he was asked about only to paint a picture he was like a God..IS crazy to me lol lol
Happy Birthday, Y2J... 🎂😎👍
i remember that last man standing!
I watched it again a couple of days ago.
Probably their best match together, best match of the night too.
Hey Chris. I was 11 years old when this match happened and still think of it as one of the most exciting, incredible matches I saw during the attitude era. Thank you for the memories, you're a hero of mine
I was in the third grade with the first ever undisputed champ I broke down the walls
Chris Jericho and Triple H the goats 🔥🔥🔥 i remember this match legendary
W
HHH vs Jericho last man standing is one of the best matches I ever seen
W
Didn’t Triple H come from fucking WCW!!?
yup!
It just tell you about what kind of a man he's lol.
terra ryzing
Yeah as a Jobber who got repackaged twice in the WWF before he became a Main eventer
Well he was there for about a year and came to WWF before Nitro was even created and the Monday night wars weren't even a thing.
Jericho is a legend 4sure
Just watched that the other day the finish with hebner an all that. Sure did get a pop Jericho. U ones the best to ever do it trendsetter
Crowd sure went wild at his Mania main event in Toronto, right?
All the stories of H and his flunkies being assholes to Jericho made me so mad back then. I just couldn't understand why they would let petty issues and jealousy get in the way of Jericho's massive potential. I've long given up caring about stuff like that but boy this brought back memories.
@Babes & Board Games It was basically Triple H vs. Stephanie with her dog-sitter Jericho in her corner.
@Babes & Board Games HHH was calling himself "Undisputed champion" numerous times February-June 2000.
Sorry Jericho. 😬😬😬
@Babes & Board Games Not sure who "Banana nose" is, but Jericho is "STILL going today" because he took multiple breaks in 2005, 2010, 2012, 2014 from wrestling. Whereas HHH did 30 years straight, and 27 for the WWF/E'. Never did he bounce around and compete for any other company's significantly reduced schedule once he made it to the WWF like Y2J did for ROH, NJPW, AEW.
Hearing about this makes me angry, because I was a massive hhh fan back then, and I have always respected jericho.
@@RagingUtai You still can be.
No wonder so much talent didn’t get over on Vince’s watch
With the benefit of hindsight you can see why Jericho left WWE and signed with AEW. Sure, he'd been a big star in WWE, but he'd had to scratch and claw to get there and had never _really_ gotten the treatment his talent deserved, always being a "B-tier" star even when he was a main eventer. AEW was his chance to be THE guy, the inaugural champion, regularly the top heel, yet also in a position to do for the younger stars what he thinks needs to be done in a properly functioning wrestling company by knowing when to put them over.
But with AEW being what it is that doesn’t say much 🤷♂️
He was never treated as a big star in WWE. He was treated as B tier. He was never treated on the same Level as Rock, Austin, Taker, Kane, or Triple H, and rightfully so. As AEW Champion he couldn't even draw a million people. No hate, but not everyone from the Attitude era is a "Star".
@@DJYC21215 i'd take jericho over anyone from wwe today. Hell even during the ruthless agression era, he was in the top 5.
@@DJYC21215he did best Austin and rock in the same night to become wwe undisputed champion 🤷🏻♂️
He beat AUSTIN AND THE ROCK in the same night! “Never gotten the treatment his talent deserves” pshhhhh hahahaha lolzzz
I was watching back then, Jericho came out of this well. Triple H got up at the last second and then immediately collapsed, selling the beating he had endured. It showed that Jericho was tough and could stand toe to toe.
"Green as grass". Clearly he didn't watch any of Jericho's matches in Japan!
You know, after a while, as a fan, not seeing them let you be Champion actually drove me away from the product, until you came back.
You're still the champ in my N64 copy of WWF No Mercy.
Right!! That’s what video games are for lol 😂.
To Vinces credit, John Cena only had 5 moves. He probably didn't know his mic skills
I believe that John cena part too 😂
HHH was already screwed a month prior at KOTR, losing the world title in a tag match that he wasn't even pinned in. He needed a big win at Fully Loaded to keep him strong because that booking was dumb. He was going to protect Kurt and eat the pin at Summerslam instead of him vs Rock anyway.
Putting Benoit in the Fully Loaded main event vs Rock when he was eliminated in the KOTR...(was it in quarter finals?) seemed like a headscratcher.
In 99, they had heel Billy Gunn win. Seemed like Y2J, a babyface would've been the natural alternate this year, instead of heel Kurt.
Kurt was RUNNING through people in 2000. He took the European title from Val. Took the IC from Jericho a couple weeks later. Despite losing both at WM, he still beat Y2J in the KOTR tournament, Rikishi, a hot Hardys tag team (with Edge and Christian), HHH, Rock, Undertaker, and Austin.
Everyone forgets that though, and the HHHater's think he should have lost to everyone. And if he did then he'd have only ever been a midcarder.
Exactly. The HHHaters bitch that he "buries." Everyone they complain he buried, he's actually lost to multiple times or put over, making them look favorable over him in numerous situations. Here's just a couple of examples.
They crap on him beating Kurt at Unforgiven. But forgot:
1. The night after KOTR, in a triple threat contender's match on Raw vs Kurt and Rock, he ate the pin to protect Kurt.
2. He did it again at Summerslam. AND let Kurt hit him with his sledgehammer that night. Which is a major deal! That's like Undertaker letting his opponent touch and use the urn on him. Kurt was the first HHH let hit him with it. He let Jericho do it next in 02, then Goldberg in 03, and Orton in 04.
3. He let Kurt kiss his wife twice (Y2J already did), and get a 2nd sledgehammer attack on him, the Smackdown before Unforgiven. Then a week after Unforgiven, he put Kurt over again for the #1 contendership at No Mercy.
4. People complain about him winning at Fully Loaded and Unforgiven but fail to realize he had the hottest angles in 2000, especially in the summer. I take nothing away from Rock's popularity as an individual babyface. But no one cares greatly about his WWF title feuds when it's against anyone else besides HHH.
5. While Rock was frolicking around with Benoit, Undertaker, and Kane for months, there was no steam behind it. There was plenty of interest in HHH/Jericho/Stephanie and HHH/Angle/Stephanie.
Fully Loaded was promoted as "a Triple main event" with Benoit/Rock, Angle/Undertaker, and HHH/Jericho. It wouldn't be advertised that way if Rock could make people care about his program with Benoit.
Unforgiven was promoted as "the most emotionally charged PPV in WWF history." Though the fatal four way with Benoit, Kane, Rock, and Undertaker was the last match, Angle/HHH was the featured match.
HHH and Kurt were on fire the whole summer so they continued it through the fall. They stamped it with Stephanie being the cause of her husband losing the #1 contendership. And that same Stephanie at No Mercy caused her friend to win the championship her husband never rightfully lost in the first place.
6. For Benoit, before HHH beat him at No Mercy:
A. HHH lost a tag match with Rock vs Angle and Benoit.
B. HHH lost another tag match with Y2J vs Benoit and XPac. That's big. Not only did HHH lose again, but his enemy put salt in the wound having HHH go against and lose to one of his best friends.
C. Benoit headbutted his wife.
D. Benoit cost him the #1 contendership that was eventually won by Angle.
E. Benoit busted him open.
F. Benoit got him in the crossface after matches were over multiple times.
Yet, the HHHATERS act like HHH mindlessly beats people like drums and always looks strong at all times. That's not true at all. It's BS every time they accuse him of it.
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Hhh should’ve lost at WM 2000 to the rock thanks to stone cold interfering then regain the title at backlash and lose it back to Rock in the Ironman match with Taker returning, then still do the tag match at kotr with Rock retaining and keep hhhs booking the same as it was afterwards.
No is reading your love letter to paul. Even the guys own heart hates him lol
@@RustieFawn What love letter?
And his ejection fraction levels are back to normal so his heart doesn't hate him. Just you apparently.
As Triple H came from WCW.
1:48 the epitome of Xpacs career. Trailer hitching to his Kliq buddies
Hate to say it
I know Jericho was really over
But anyone who would have pinned Triple H for the title would have gotten a nuclear pop
The pop for his debut. The pop for his title win in raw. And they still didn't run with him... and they never learned. Just look at the pop ddp got and what they did
@Babes & Board Games facts. They are now All Elite!
@@serbonkers4130 All elite doesn't even have a million, stop lmao.
Tbh in Fully Loaded The Rock, Undertaker, and Triple H won their matches so no one was put over during that time.
I hope Triple H no longer has this kind of ego, I feel he doesn't but he is doing so well with the brand now he could have it again
The HHHate for HHH is mind boggling to me. As a lifelong HHH fan, I'm immuned to it though.
@@Speedyreedy1218 why so blind to it
@@RagingUtai Blind to what? There's nothing blind. I said I'm immuned to feeling affects of the HHHate. I'm not blind. I've seen it for over 20 years.
@@RagingUtai cause this is hunters burner
@@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 I've had this account before Hunter learned how to use a computer. Nice try though.
4:02 Chris acting like he doesn't know why Steph slapped him so hard🙄
6:30 so when is Eddie Kingston's time?
We all knew that one kid who refused to play dead during cowboys and Indians. Hunter and Shawn were both like that.
Too much hate in people’s blood.
never enjoyed the hhh y2j feud because it was hhh flexing his backstage authority. he could never bully the rock and stone cold, but he could control the fates of everybody else. dude never wanted to lose to Jericho, so it was pretty much written that he was gonna win over Jericho regardless.
Triple H just always struck me as a hater, I feel like he even hated on AUstin n Rock but he wasn’t big enough to do anything about it
He was definitely big enough to do it, sure he was overprotective of his character backstage, but so was Rock and Austin too.
@@BlackenedLiam he was not big enough to stop AUstin and Rocks momentum, they took off way before him when he was still a lackey to HBK and Shawn coudnt do anything about Austin n Rock either, Respectvto Triple H for rising up to their level but I’m sure he wish he could’ve been more than the 3rd wheel to them
@@BCZ21 You realize if HHH isn't punished for the BS HBK dragged him into for the Curtain Call, Austin never has a opportunity to take off?
And HHH played long ball anyway: a 30 year legacy of monumental runs with every generational wave of talent is better than a 3yr point of a white hot period such as Austin and Rock's 98-01.
@@Speedyreedy1218 no it’s not better, he played 3rd wheel to Rock and Austin then stayed around long enough to play 3rd wheel to Cena and Orton lol, that’s not better than being the biggest star of an entire generation, Every wrestler at some point had dreams of reaching the level guys like Austin, Rock, Hogan and Cena reached…actually reaching and holding that position is the greatest thing you can do in wrestling
It is better. He crosses multiple eras. He's the biggest wrestling star of 30 years. He didn't fade out of a wave like Austin. Austin's pops died down in 2000-2001 compared to what they were in 98-99. And by 02, it was even close anymore.
The absurdity of the third wheel comment isn't even worth addressing.
Why was Jericho not apart of the Alliance angle?
Jericho is such a mark for himself
@@mcgannahanskyjellyfetti6854 or CM Puke
Most of the top guys in wrestling are, some are just a lot more obvious with it like Jericho or Bret
As he should, he’s the Le Cham-pion
To be fair in the wrestling business you kind of have to be
Maybe, but that's probably the mindset he needed to reach his level of success. Heavy metal singer, game show host on network TV, actor, and author, and he has his own themed cruise. His side gigs are more successful than most other wrestlers' actual wrestling careers.
I woul love to see Chris Jericho curb stomp.X Pac American History X style
I honestly know you are good yet you could never and have c.m on your mind you never beat him. You're one the best yet to hate someone won't happen.
As if the entire rivalry wasn't over Stephanie. Watch any clips or read any shoots or press published at the time, it's clearly the real underlying reason. Funny how with age and the passage of time, Jericho & HHH are both so embarrassed that they're mutually trying to pretend it was never anything to do with her, when the truth of the matter is clear.
Who interviewing here?
Kenny McIntosh. He hosts *Inside The Ropes.*
Ralphus...
HHH took more of that bump through the table on that suplex than Jericho.
Thast the sort of stuff that happens continuously & fans don't get what they want. Wrestling is about fun, but WWE just drags a lot.
Triple H is more jealous than a female.
Damn I couldn't stand him
He did his job if you believed it and were pissed.
me too felt a little sour when hhh won. y2j was in such a limbo up until late 2001. he litterally became the guy that worked with the top names, but coudnt win. like they based him and the rocks feud off in late 2001 but then he finally won. imo it was overdue. i feel more annoyed, like y2j, when stone cold faced y2j and benoit. that was anticlimactic and stupid at the same time.
HHH lost at Backlash. HHH lost at KOTR. HHH was going to lose again at Summerslam. He needed a win in between for credibility.
Triple H can have all of the fake wrestling titles he likes, but we all know that Jericho was way better than him.
Nice joke.
Looking back, it makes you realise what muppets Triple H, Sean Michaels, JBL and those guys were, and how many great stories, matches and careers were ruined because they all wanted to stay at the top forever.
HBK would later apologize and even told Vince in 2000s that he didn’t want to be champion and just wanted steal the show. JBL 2004 run save his career so I don’t mind that he buried some people. But Triple H 2003 reign of terror definitely shows you how obsessed he was with being champion.
@@nickdonalds3990 As much HBK was a prick before his comeback. I still respected his reputation in the business more than Triple H. Because he started from the ground up. He had wrestled so many greats including guys like Gene Kiniski and Billy Robertson who were real shooters since he had started his career. JBL, before he started in WWE, he had wrestled in Japan, Puerto Rico, and Mexico. So he really earned that spot more than Triple H.
Jericho wasn’t wrong I mean he should’ve won the LMS match , especially since it’s designed for the baby face to stand tall.
While I agree and wanted Chris Jericho to win I understand why HHH won as they needed a heel to win one of those three matches that night and it was too early for Benoit to win the title off the rock or for Kurt Angle to beat undertaker as undertaker had just came back.
Babyface Jericho winning the LMS would be predictable. Something they didn't want to do. That's not fresh. Companies stay in business that evolve. Jericho himself complained that he wanted out of WCW because of the sameness of it.
Plus HHH gave him PLENTY of momentum, to get the upperhand on him in numerous things; allowing Y2J to thwart of HHH'S gimmick of being the most calculating man in the business. HHH had Jericho:
1. Constantly badmouth his wife.
2. Talk him into defending his title because he badmouthed him. That's huge. Because HHH'S character is known for controlling his emotions and having no conscience. Letting Jericho "crack him" so to speak is a big deal and HHH'S way of putting him over.
3. Get a pop faux title victory on Raw.
4. Kiss his wife at KOTR.
5. Set up a revolt, gathering the Dudleys, Kane, Rikishi, and II Cool to take down the McMahon-Helmsley Regime.
6. Screw him out of the #1 contender's spot following KOTR.
7. Screw him out of winning the IC title.
8. Insulting his intelligence, mocking HHH'S failed plan of having Stephanie "admit" her crush for Y2J to set up a DX beatdown.
9. Even after the victory, and HHH put him over in a promo, the next night, still have Y2J disrespectfully invade his locker room and attack him.
10. They continued to have several matches afterwards too. I just watched one from September 2000, where Foley had him be his "mystery opponent." Y2J won via DQ when HHH left the ring to confront Kurt taking Stephanie. XPac runs in and inteferes.
@@rocky5000100 I don't understand what the deal was with Benoit. Why put him in a title match with Rock in July, then take him out in August to be in IC contention with Guerrero, Val, Y2J? They then Put HHH and Kurt in with Rock for the title at Summerslam, then come back and insert Benoit in the title match at Unforgiven in September.
Why, the need for a gap? If Vince was going to continue HHH/Trish/Test/Stephanie/Kurt feud going into the spring of 2001 anyway, nothing was wrong letting Rock fight Benoit both at Fully Loaded in July, and again in August for Summerslam.
Benoit was a good worker, but I suppose it wasn't garnering interest. The pop HHH generated out of the crowd for Rock was night and day in comparison to the one Rock got when squaring against Benoit. As I'm binge watching this time period of spring-summer 2000, pausing and reading crowd signs, I noticed some things.
I was surprised to see a few "Die Rocky Die, Rocky Sux, Rocky Still Sucks, HHH is the tru Great One, HHH Federation, The Rock's Cooking Sucks," signs. At Summerslam, towards the ramp, a person had a green posterboard with a cartoon image of Rock in the center. The black text around it said, 'HHH, please pedigree here.'
And these weren't just smark cities like DC, Chicago, or LA either.
The point I'm making is the crowd was super engaged with that pairing in 2000 more than any other.
Triple h was better at that time
@@kamfisher1714 Always was in my opinion.
Most people didn't take Jericho seriously until his 2008 run. It's a formula that's worked in many wrestling eras. Change the character and it'll either make you huge (Blueblood HHH becoming The Game, Maivia becoming The Rock, Rocker Michaels becoming HBK, The Ringmaster becoming Stone Cold), or if you were already huge, but been stagnant awhile, revive your career (Hulk Hogan becoming Hollywood nwo Hulk Hogan).
Goofy, wannabe Rock star, loud, joke-cracking, too much mousse in his hair 99-05 Y2J wasn't a main eventer. Suit wearing, diction spewing, hypocrite-exposing, Chris Jericho was.
Hunter was always a POS at the beginning that's why he is knowing as the shovel guy
Lies.
Only to wannabe fantasy booking smarks like yourself. You don’t know anything about wrestling.
@@Speedyreedy1218 wake up deluded boy😂
@@crux33 I'm not asleep, delusional, or a boy.
You didn't win the title Jericho.
"It never, ever happened! You people didn't see a damn thing!" HHH, Raw, April 2000
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Y2J and HHH are my 2 fav wrestlers of all time, when Y2J won i was super happy and i did want him to keep the belt but at the same time i didn't want HHH to lose the belt either.
@@BlackenedLiam I respect that.
My mother loves HHH, Rock, and HBK equally. She can't stand when they have to fight each other in ANY combination. Doesn't matter who is in the right or wrong.
It makes her day whenever they tag.
@@Speedyreedy1218 Love HBK and Rocky too, But i always had HHH and Y2J over them. No offense to them, But i always felt a stronger connection to them than HBK and Rock. By the way, i’m not sure if you remember me but i’m Snake, i just changed my username to my in real life name. We used to talk alot a year or 2 ago on Attitude Era Clips, mostly Triple H. Glad to see you again Speedy.
Dope that you have a parent that likes Wrestling, my mom doesnt like it cause she thinks its too violent, But my dad is a fan. His fav is JBL, fortunately he likes HHH too.
@@BlackenedLiam Hey Snake! Long time no speak! Is Kurt your avatar?
Oh, throw Batista in there as one of her favorites also. She was so heartbroken in 2005 when he and HHH went at it.
Yep. I'm the opposite of you. My father isn't Into sports (but likes to pretend he does just to throw parties when something big happens).
It was my mom who got me into wrestling.
Totally understand with who you connect with. H and Y2J have things in common. Most obvious is their vernacular. H, Y2J, and JBL are the only ones of their era who could keep up with each other with intelligent promos.
Too many others are short, sound drunk, illiterate, or go the catchphrase route. I love how articulate those three are. 🙂🙂🙂
@@Speedyreedy1218 Yeah! Kurt is one of my favs too. Had to show him some love.
I like Batista alot too, not one of my favs but i like him. I'm glad he got the title in 2005 even though he beat H, he deserved it. His win made way more sense than Cena's WWE title win.
Yup! HHH and Y2J did have catchphrases though but it wasn't their whole thing. Like HHH would say ''I'M THAT DAMN GOOD!'' and Y2J would pronounce words and wrestlers names on purpose like ''AGAIIIIN'' or ''Kurt Angel'', ''Vance McMahon''.
Is the guy who puts NOBODY over in aew actually taking credit for putting Cena over and pretending like McMahon saw nothing in him? That's like Hogan level lying lol
He’s put a lot of people over, but it’s not like that matters to you if you’re this delusional
@@WCWThunderRosa yeah I thought so. Im not a hard-core AEW fan but even I was like "What? Jericho has never put anyone over?"
Nobody saw anything In Cena when he first debuted, do your research.
@@WCWThunderRosa Tell me who he put over that actually got somewhere from him putting them over. And don't say MJF, it didn't help him at all losing to Jericho.
@@pgrove Moxley, the time limit match with Jungle Boy started his upward trajectory, Orange Cassidy twice, he put over MJF twice, the Bucks, Eddie Kingston, Scorpio Sky, like I said you’re delusional if you think Jericho doesn’t put people over. When he was in WWE in 2012-2016 he put people over to the point that people started begging him to win a PPV match once in a while because he was doing it too much
I honestly have jericho over hhh in all time rankings.
wow jericho is a cm punk pitch
Well if only Vince would've stayed with his original gut feeling of cena. Would've saved us 15 years of utter misery.
Agreed. Ugh. So mad Stephanie save him.
6:11 This is a parallel situation to what's going on now. Miz: Let me put LA Knight over. Vince: Why? That guy got nothing.
HHH never put over Jericho
Yes he did. Many times. In 2000, 2001, 2002, and 2008, 2009.
@@Speedyreedy1218 How many of them were one on one and clean?
@@SteelSpurs Quite a bit were one on one actually. He has victories on HHH both as a heel and as a face.
I didn't get pen and paper out for the thousands of matches of HHH, or the specific ones in the double digits vs Jericho to break down which ones were clean and which weren't.
I do know I binge watched 1994-2009 WWE during the pandemic and pointed out several losses HHH took to Jericho, Kurt, RVD, and Booker between 2000-2002 (Kurt) and 2000-2002 & 2008-9 (Jericho) that time. 2002-2003 (RVD & Booker).
@@Speedyreedy1218 I'd love to know these matches so I can see them, especially if they're clean.
@@SteelSpurs I'm sure you would. A lot of HHHaters love critiquing whether his wins and losses are clean or not, but don't emphasis the same for everyone else. The goal post always gets moved for HHHim.
Just realized that Jericho never beat Triple H one on one.
Same way Macho never beat Hogan.
He beat him on raw he just had give the title back
HHH put Jericho over in exactly one match. And made sure that match didn't mean anything.
Come on Jericho, Stephanie McMahon has the hardest slap in wrestling? lol I'm sure Triple H could slap you harder than her
I think the point of that comment was to low key disrespect HHH 😂
@@MasterDifootball it was disrespect to every male wrestler in the history of wrestling 😂
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Think Jericho is talking nonsense.
He is just twisting and even at some parts just fabricating how the past happened.
He says here that he was the one who pushed to Vince to put over Cena yet in another interview from years ago He said he wanted to leave WWE in 2005 because he was so burned out and raw after summerslam was his exit.
Your getting it mixed up
How do those correlate?
Yeah Vince was right. Cena sucks
vince really was right about cena. stiff as hell and had no real ability to sell. his gimmick was better than his ring ability the rest his history.
Like Austin.
Do not compare Austin to Cena. Austin was a great seller and worker before he broke his neck. Far better than Cena ever was or became.
Every comment in this thread are a bunch of dumasses lol also don’t act like Vince wasn’t the one who pushed Cena too the moon, I swear you guys are all stuck in 2010
I'm sorry, Jericho's thing about "they didn't respect ex-WCW wrestlers" doesn't make any sense. WHO didn't respect ex-ECW wrestlers, exactly? The Rock and Kurt Angle? Because everybody else WAS ex-WCW, including HHH, as well as Stone Cold, Mick Foley, HHH's clique buddy XPac, hell even the Undertaker if you go back far enough.
I love ya Chris, but you need a better excuse for people being put off by you.
I guess this is the only type of way he'll ever go against Triple H cause he can't manipulate Triple H with his stupid ideas that make the show worse like how he does Tony Khan. The irony isn't lost on me Jericho😂
You are delusional kid hunter was a pos at that time plenty of wrestlers said it
@@randomgod6371 I'm talking about head of creative 2022 Triple H not 2002 active wrestler Triple H😂you're 20 years too early and whyre you calling him Hunter like you've known him your whole life?😂
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Ha ha you’re so funny and original
I guess you just hate Jericho?