"I knew he was dead....I mean they're all dead, aren't they?" Rarely does Red Dwarf acknowledge just how bleak Lister and Rimmer's situation actually is, but when they do....damn....
Great scene. This goes to show why Rimmer is such a tragic figure and a deep character. It was great that the writers explored that. He's been miserable all his life and never had success with women or had a relationship that could have built up his confidence and got rid of his self-loathing. 'Holoship' and 'Dimension Jump' show what Rimmer could be.
This is such a sad scene. You learn SO much about Rimmer in this one scene, why he was so desperate to become an officer, why his self-esteem and self-confidence is rock bottom, and why he believes he's a total loser. All because his parents were disfunctional smegheads.
its odd how touching this scene is I still remember this after all the years from watching it. it always stuck with me. It both of them letting down their walls and just talking to each other man to man.
and the ironic thing is that he is more sucessful then his father had ever been. I mean, despite the loathing the others have for him, he really does keep the crew together most of the time.
Good acting by Chris Barrie and Craig Charles. Although Rimmer is a character you love to hate, but you got to feel sorry for Rimmer at times. Rimmer was hated and unloved by his family and he deeply regrets his father never been proud of him and had wanted to make his father proud of him and that he wanted to be loved. 0:08 That shot of Rimmer is so heartbreaking. Like Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, The Fast Show and other sitcoms, Red Dwarf had it's serious moments. Where we got to learn more about the characters and we saw their loneliness and sadness: Lister at the disco all alone, remembering when the crew were alive and when his chums were making fun of Kochanski. A drunk Rimmer telling Lister that he would had sacrificed everything to be loved and be happy. Kryten making the speech about living for the first time in his life. Lister learning the truth behind his abandonment as a baby and Lister crying, when Kochanski asked him about his dreams about her. Red Dwarf is such a classic series. Good writing, good acting, well-cast, brilliant chemistry. One of the greatest TV shows on British television.
I never took this scene too serious till my dad died suddenly. Then out of nowhere this series became something part of a memoir of him, he introduced me to the show at 8. Then for the first time watching this scene after, I felt what Rimmer did, and in spirit, I felt like I was standing right next to him gazing into the stars in mourning. I've always loved the music at the intro too : ) and still one of my most favorite shows
I found this show right after my dad died in 1993. Was just going through the TV Guide channel, saw something on PBS called Red Dwarf and thought, "well, let's give it a look". Rest is history.
@@davidcone1433 found one. If you search howard goodall red dwarf suite on youtube and fast forward a couple of minutes, the intro to the observation dome is there.
"I don't think he had one screw fully tightened to be perfectly honest." Gotta love how for every few silly things any of the main characters said, then they'd have a perfectly awesome line that made them just much more relateable.
You see, what draws me towards Rimmer more then the other principle characters is the fact that he had a hard time growing up and the relationship between and his father was one of the least smoothest known to man. I mean, my old man isn't the greatest guy in the world, most of the time, it feels like my father is a complete stranger. Often, people have steered away from me or found me awkward company, branding me as weird and solitary. But if only they knew half of the story. Sometimes those, who are the least understood are the ones with the most troubled background.
I always find this scene quite emotional. It's also the moment I realised Rimmer is my favourite character, because I personally can relate to him on a similar level. And the way he talks about his father is exactly the same as how I felt about my dad when I lost him 8 years ago. I like it when the writers explore the characters' backgrounds.
Being stuck with a self-confessed bum, a psychopathic cat-human and a robot that always knows how to do Rimmer’s job better than him, I ALWAYS want to give him a hug!
Such a cool set. And the thing that proves how well it ABSOLUTELY works, is that whenever you see Rimmer up in that bubble standing, staring into the void of infinite night, you look at him standing there and thing - “Damn - it looks like it must be REALLY cold out there in a dressing gown and pajamas…”
'cause they found me with me head down the bowl, reading the football results.' rarely does a comedy face the awful inevitability of death with such humour.
A lovely, tender scene with beautiful music. However one of the reasons, surely, that Red Dwarf is a continuing force is that the tone is different in some series. So all credit to Rob Grant and Doug Naylor for not frequently using sentiment in explicit ways. For instance, series 5 and 6 are often lean, mean, story, set, effects, cameo/alternative selves and costume driven machines. Red Dwarf has been a complicated hearty stew really, subtle shifts back and forth although series 5 felt like a huge stylistic leap to live up to being a confidently scifi looking show.
I just watched all the series and still have their last film they just did and Lister is about 1 year older than I am. Loved the show back then and so many I had not seen before but, for me, it all fell apart around Series 8, so Series 7 should have been their last series I think. By 10 I became bored with it but still like it but 12/13 sucked immensely.
@@melvert33 I agree. It is as if I am watching two different shows. 6 was the last best season and I suspect 7 rode along with a few previously written scripts so made it through and by S8 had none to one and fell flat. S8 is when it really started to become non fun to me. TBH the woman never fit in at all and did a lot of harm to the series imo. She didn't come back for 10+ but 10+ isn't the same show anymore. The dividing line really was 9 because there was never a series 9. Went 8, film special, 10. That was when it just lost all spark. Eight probably had scripts they bodged together and seeing them on the nanite made RD with the entire crew was cool and nostalgic enough to carry it through the 6 episodes.
@@thebeststooge Looking through the BTS, a lot of the scripts were written not just before but during each series, sometimes during filming. It's definitely two different shows, but less of a switch and more of a gradual changing with the times, circumstances and ambitions.
One of my favorite episodes which I'd rank as being very character driven is Marooned from Series 3. It's also one of the episodes where we see Rimmer actually being very noble and selfless. I do agree though that there was more pathos in the first two series, and it had something of a more somber tone.
Is it any wonder why Rimmer was such a mess? I guess thats part of the appeal. We all can identify with getting screwed over by fate. Sure he's a difficult pain in the ass, but who HASN'T asked "Why me?" at one time or another? We all get poked in the eye by the fickle finger of fat. Arnie just gets it more often. There's a little Arnold Rimmer in all of us.
i love the rimmer/lister interaction (not to the extreme of slash fandom, but still), it's one of the things that really made this show work. i like that they are really close friends, but can't stand each other at the same time. more like family i guess. i agree, there was more of that in the first 2 series, but there was still some of that closeness in the later series as well. just not as much cause they had to give play to the other characters as well. ~
In many ways Rimmer and Lister are like a pair of brothers, sure they don't get on like 90% of the time, but that other ten percent shows them bringing out the best in each other.
So I came back to this video after just having watched The Promised Land and I'm so proud of the guys for how far they've come... :) Their love/hate relationship has always been at the heart of Red Dwarf, imho, and while it's had its ups and downs, it's immensely satisfying to see its depth being acknowledged like that.
it really is. it's one of the things that makes his character actually likeable. you could so easily hate a character like that, but it's rimmer and you can't help but like him (love him in my case). ~
the first seasons of RD where my favorite specially becuase it dealth more with the theme of the series of a guy sudenly losing everyone he ever knew and ending up alone in the universe with his only company being a computer , a simulation ran by computer and a being descended from cats trapped in the ship for millions of years
I identify more with Captain Hollister, though he is more a side character. I know he gets some hate, but he is or was responsible for the lives of a city sized population of a crew.
Seasons I-VI in general are excellent, but Season II has to be my favourite. It's a perfect bridge between the bleakness of Season I and the more over the top comedy of the later seasons.
The biggest fault and irony is that had Rimmer not been shot down through his life he might have ended up more like Lister and had Lister pushed himself more he might have ended up more like Rimmer. That was their ironic fault, Lister just making his way through life without any ambition and Rimmer trying to gain the approval from people he was never going to get it from. Despite their resentment for each other, Rimmer and Lister did rub off on each other, Lister did become much more comptent whereas Rimmer learned to at less try and have fun, just his idea of fun is the kind of fun only he'd like.
I get that Red Dwarf has a sort of... serialized thing? Everything has to reset to status quo. But scenes like this make me wish it didn't because... honestly? This is kind of a moving moment for the characters. No one has ever been kind to Rimmer - a lot of why he is the way he is is a result of that. Lister can still work up the empathy to BE kind to him, even though they're completely different people and started out hating each other. I would have liked to see things develop to a point where they are unironically best mates by the end of the series - cuz it's conceptually kinda funny that Rimmer could become a better person after his own death. I'm not saying we jump into slash-fic territory, but I would have loved to see more scenes where we get that they do actually like each other.
I agree completely, although I adore the entire series, even the weaker parts, I always thought that the show should've had more heart-to-heart moments where the characters (mainly Lister and Rimmer) develop and understand each other better. It would've been cool that in the later series we would've seen Lister and Rimmer improving each other, with Lister being less a slob who works harder and Rimmer to take it easier and not focus on getting attention from people who will never give it to him.
@@magmus2 I personally have also read the books, and there are threads there I kinda wish had been more fully put into the show. For one - there's an implication in the first book that Rimmer is actually kind of a phenomenal artist. But he sees no value in it because of how he was raised and keeps trying to pursue something he's just not good at and not particularly INTERESTED in because that's what he was told success was. For another - Lister is really fucking smart. He just hasn't got the confidence or drive to put it to use, and often asks Kryten questions he himself knows the answers to because he doesn't trust himself to get it right. (That's kinda referenced in Inquisitor, but not TOO heavily as far as I remember?) Like stuff like this makes me kinda wish we'd see a comedy/drama reboot of Red Dwarf, which is more structured around a continuous storyline with this sorta development. Although the unfortunate thing about that is the original cast are older now, and I don't really know that Red Dwarf could work with a different cast.
Great scene - and one of the links between Red Dwarf and its inspiration, "Dark Star." That ship also had an observation dome that the characters liked to go to when they were feeling contemplative. But Rimmer isn't talking about waxing his surfboard :)
Its interesting this scene. Considering The Hologram is nothing more than a computer simulation, this scene is basically rimmer talking to a fake person alone on the observation deck of a ship millions of years away from his home that's probably long gone.
This scene in a way reminds me of the funeral of Granddad in OFAH. It's sombre and you feel sorry for the people involved, you can feel their pain, more so in OFAH as they'd also attended the funeral in real life for Granddads actor a week before. But at the end, Del see's Granddad's trilby hat and throws it into the grave and a minute later, the vicars asking where his hat is and then you laugh when you realize what's happened. This scene has Cat coming in to bring back the comedy, "I'd prefer chicken."
I actually really loved the sombre take Season VII took. It feels like they missed the major fact of the plot in the other seasons, everybody's dead. It's sad, I know it's a comedy, but they should have put a few downers in there too.
Abandoned as a baby, Lister was found under a pool table, in a box ( as a baby ). He never knew his parents & consequently, never knew his grandparents.
@@lewstherintelamon244 :: that's true. but don't you think, for continuity, he should have said :: my adopted parents, blah, blah, blah ; my adopted grandparents, blah ... ?
@@cliffgaither Considering he was adopted as a baby, I doubt that would be the way he would refer to the people who raised him. As far as Lister knows, his biological parents ran out on him. Why should he bother to pay lip service to the idea that they are his "real" parents rather than the people who took him in and gave him a place to call home? It would come across as stilted and awkward if he had done so, and more like the writers were trying to exposite Lister's backstory rather than how an ordinary person would approach the subject.
@@lewstherintelamon244 :: ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ! A woman once introduced me to her son. I said :: "He looks just like you". she said :: "Oh, he's adopted !" I felt like an idiot and immediately apologized. She said "no problem, it happens all the time". It goes back to what you commented :: Why would Lister refer to the people who adopted him, as a baby, in those terms ? They are the only parents he had known ! The woman I met wanted a baby so much, she & her husband adopted a baby-boy. They loved him so much, he grow-up looking like _the mother._ I completely forgot about that family ! You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT !
The sensation is simulated. Rewatch ep 1, he literally explains this. It is such an advanced form of technology that can simulate all emotions and sensations. Possible? Probably no according to some, and someday according to others, but in a scifi comedy would not overthink it.
Don't ever watch RD and expect continuity, and it got worse past series 6. By 10 they said fuck it and didn't even try anymore. Sad as I am a big fan of the show and overlook it, but it triggers my "by the canon" continuity side.
@@thebeststoogeThe canon obsession can get a bit pedantic though. Red Dwarf can explain it away with different times and past events involving space-time retconning things and splitting timelines. Some even say the season 3 is a slightly different timeline than seasons 1&2, and most remember stuff like stasis leak and all the ways that may have influenced the timeline. The best way to think about it, with stuff like stasis leak and "the inquisitor", is that the same events for the most part happened, but sometimes you are watching slightly retconned versions of the characters: yet most of the other versions and their histories still exist. What binds the versions of the characters followed in the whole series is this, and this is all that matters: they are the boys from the dwarf. Rimmer in later seasons may even exemplify this, as he is hinted to be a merging of both pre-nanobot resurrection hologram Rimmer, and post-nanobot resurrection Rimmer. They just avoid going into all of this as it may be boring and most would be saying "hurry up I just want the plot to move forward."
Then you need to grow up. It is one step from incel to not be content with platonic relationships, and most people who are "LGBT" dislike the types that treat it as a fad or as less mundane or normal than hetero relationships. If you want to normalise it, then do not treat it as better or worse than hetero relationships. In summary: grow up.
FIRST 6 OR 7 SEASONS WAS SOME OF BEST BRITISH TV HAS PRODUCED.. and you could find all those seasons here on youtube before a politically correct feminist took over the charge of youtube... now you can only find the bad seasons after 7 where the woman is part of the crew
"I knew he was dead....I mean they're all dead, aren't they?"
Rarely does Red Dwarf acknowledge just how bleak Lister and Rimmer's situation actually is, but when they do....damn....
Danny Rea Read the books, Lister's first week/weeks were hell after the "They're all dead Dave" incident
@@kamenraider1175 theres books??????
@@paroxysm8588 Yes, four of them... the first two are essential.
It's a shame the show has totally turned it's back on this and has new humanoid characters popping up every episode.
@@VambeefcoHorzey Keyword...Humanoid. Not Human. There are no humans baring time travel or android masqued as human
Great scene. This goes to show why Rimmer is such a tragic figure and a deep character. It was great that the writers explored that. He's been miserable all his life and never had success with women or had a relationship that could have built up his confidence and got rid of his self-loathing. 'Holoship' and 'Dimension Jump' show what Rimmer could be.
I also loved the episode "The Beginning" for this reason.
Don't forget about 'Thanks for the Memory'. Breaks my bloody heart every time I watch it.
@@WaspCameraInSpringfield Same here..and tbh, I actually can SIDE with Rimmer most of the time.
Hank J. Wimbleton The Beginning might actually be my most favorite episode, for this very reason. And The Promised Land was excellent as well :)
Stoke me a clipper gets me every time
This is such a sad scene. You learn SO much about Rimmer in this one scene, why he was so desperate to become an officer, why his self-esteem and self-confidence is rock bottom, and why he believes he's a total loser. All because his parents were disfunctional smegheads.
its odd how touching this scene is I still remember this after all the years from watching it. it always stuck with me. It both of them letting down their walls and just talking to each other man to man.
Character development and brings the funny
They're ALL funny.
and the ironic thing is that he is more sucessful then his father had ever been. I mean, despite the loathing the others have for him, he really does keep the crew together most of the time.
Good acting by Chris Barrie and Craig Charles. Although Rimmer is a character you love to hate, but you got to feel sorry for Rimmer at times. Rimmer was hated and unloved by his family and he deeply regrets his father never been proud of him and had wanted to make his father proud of him and that he wanted to be loved. 0:08 That shot of Rimmer is so heartbreaking. Like Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, The Fast Show and other sitcoms, Red Dwarf had it's serious moments. Where we got to learn more about the characters and we saw their loneliness and sadness: Lister at the disco all alone, remembering when the crew were alive and when his chums were making fun of Kochanski. A drunk Rimmer telling Lister that he would had sacrificed everything to be loved and be happy. Kryten making the speech about living for the first time in his life. Lister learning the truth behind his abandonment as a baby and Lister crying, when Kochanski asked him about his dreams about her. Red Dwarf is such a classic series. Good writing, good acting, well-cast, brilliant chemistry. One of the greatest TV shows on British television.
I never took this scene too serious till my dad died suddenly. Then out of nowhere this series became something part of a memoir of him, he introduced me to the show at 8. Then for the first time watching this scene after, I felt what Rimmer did, and in spirit, I felt like I was standing right next to him gazing into the stars in mourning. I've always loved the music at the intro too : ) and still one of my most favorite shows
I’m so sorry for your loss. I hope you and your family are okay.
I found this show right after my dad died in 1993. Was just going through the TV Guide channel, saw something on PBS called Red Dwarf and thought, "well, let's give it a look". Rest is history.
Chris Barrie is marvelous in this scene
this scene sums up the best of red dwarf for me. it's hilarious but it's so tragic and genuinely moving. really great acting and writing
I do love that little music intro the observation dome
what's the name
@@eldestduke1553 WHAT IS THE NAME? 3 years
WE NEED AN ANSWER!!!
@@davidcone1433 found one. If you search howard goodall red dwarf suite on youtube and fast forward a couple of minutes, the intro to the observation dome is there.
@@KazuyaMain2001 WE HAVE AN ANSWER!!! Thanks Ryan!
1:26 always hits it home in a way that just gets you for a second just after a really funny bit of dialogue. So well written and acted, what a show.
this show really had some special moments of gravity but then being able to lighten the mood with the appearance of just one character
"I don't think he had one screw fully tightened to be perfectly honest." Gotta love how for every few silly things any of the main characters said, then they'd have a perfectly awesome line that made them just much more relateable.
You see, what draws me towards Rimmer more then the other principle characters is the fact that he had a hard time growing up and the relationship between and his father was one of the least smoothest known to man. I mean, my old man isn't the greatest guy in the world, most of the time, it feels like my father is a complete stranger. Often, people have steered away from me or found me awkward company, branding me as weird and solitary. But if only they knew half of the story. Sometimes those, who are the least understood are the ones with the most troubled background.
Felix Cuthbert Or they could become Ace Rimmer
I always find this scene quite emotional. It's also the moment I realised Rimmer is my favourite character, because I personally can relate to him on a similar level. And the way he talks about his father is exactly the same as how I felt about my dad when I lost him 8 years ago. I like it when the writers explore the characters' backgrounds.
I love how much the cat was a cat in this scene 😂
Aw I just want to give Rimmer a big hug in this scene! x
Good luck trying to hug a hologram, but I know what you mean!
Being stuck with a self-confessed bum, a psychopathic cat-human and a robot that always knows how to do Rimmer’s job better than him, I ALWAYS want to give him a hug!
@@EditorOfSL not to mention he was stuck with an erratic computer and then some series later a complete drip of a navigational officer
Rimmers dad died.
"I'd prefer chicken"
He would prefer the chicken but if that's all that's on offer.
I think that refers to how cats would eat their dead masters.
Genius !!!
@@Enzo012 I think there's fish as well.
Cat just didn't know (or care) how to read the room.
after this episode suddenly all of Rimmer's smegheadiness makes sense
And yet he still had his moments of absolute seriousness, logic, and dare I say it, intelligence or common sense.
@@JnEricsonx exactly Rimmer isn't actually dumb, he's just a bad written test taker.
I wish they kept the observation dome in later seasons.
Did they use it in any other scenes?
@@attentionaddicts No, just season 2 and they only used it twice. Pity really, it would have added some atmosphere to the more emotional scenes.
Do your remember the other time it was used apart from this?
@@attentionaddicts Yeah; Thanks For The Memory. When Rimmer was mad at Lister for messing with him memories.
Such a cool set.
And the thing that proves how well it ABSOLUTELY works, is that whenever you see Rimmer up in that bubble standing, staring into the void of infinite night, you look at him standing there and thing -
“Damn - it looks like it must be REALLY cold out there in a dressing gown and pajamas…”
The original music for this show rarely gets acknowledged but I love it.
'cause they found me with me head down the bowl, reading the football results.'
rarely does a comedy face the awful inevitability of death with such humour.
A lovely, tender scene with beautiful music. However one of the reasons, surely, that Red Dwarf is a continuing force is that the tone is different in some series. So all credit to Rob Grant and Doug Naylor for not frequently using sentiment in explicit ways. For instance, series 5 and 6 are often lean, mean, story, set, effects, cameo/alternative selves and costume driven machines. Red Dwarf has been a complicated hearty stew really, subtle shifts back and forth although series 5 felt like a huge stylistic leap to live up to being a confidently scifi looking show.
Loved Red Dwarf as a teenager, Grant and Naylor knew how to write superb comedy and pathos.
I just watched all the series and still have their last film they just did and Lister is about 1 year older than I am. Loved the show back then and so many I had not seen before but, for me, it all fell apart around Series 8, so Series 7 should have been their last series I think. By 10 I became bored with it but still like it but 12/13 sucked immensely.
@@thebeststooge yeah I think it started going downhill when Rob Grant left after series 6, the more recent ones just aren't very funny.
@@melvert33 I agree. It is as if I am watching two different shows. 6 was the last best season and I suspect 7 rode along with a few previously written scripts so made it through and by S8 had none to one and fell flat. S8 is when it really started to become non fun to me. TBH the woman never fit in at all and did a lot of harm to the series imo. She didn't come back for 10+ but 10+ isn't the same show anymore. The dividing line really was 9 because there was never a series 9. Went 8, film special, 10. That was when it just lost all spark. Eight probably had scripts they bodged together and seeing them on the nanite made RD with the entire crew was cool and nostalgic enough to carry it through the 6 episodes.
@@thebeststooge Looking through the BTS, a lot of the scripts were written not just before but during each series, sometimes during filming. It's definitely two different shows, but less of a switch and more of a gradual changing with the times, circumstances and ambitions.
The early seasons were so much more character driven and emotional. Then again the later seasons were funny and easy to enjoy
One of my favorite episodes which I'd rank as being very character driven is Marooned from Series 3. It's also one of the episodes where we see Rimmer actually being very noble and selfless. I do agree though that there was more pathos in the first two series, and it had something of a more somber tone.
Is it any wonder why Rimmer was such a mess? I guess thats part of the appeal. We all can identify with getting screwed over by fate. Sure he's a difficult pain in the ass, but who HASN'T asked "Why me?" at one time or another? We all get poked in the eye by the fickle finger of fat. Arnie just gets it more often.
There's a little Arnold Rimmer in all of us.
"Fickle finger of fat"
fuck up smeg head
Certainly one of my favourite scenes in the series.
i love the rimmer/lister interaction (not to the extreme of slash fandom, but still), it's one of the things that really made this show work. i like that they are really close friends, but can't stand each other at the same time. more like family i guess. i agree, there was more of that in the first 2 series, but there was still some of that closeness in the later series as well. just not as much cause they had to give play to the other characters as well.
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In many ways Rimmer and Lister are like a pair of brothers, sure they don't get on like 90% of the time, but that other ten percent shows them bringing out the best in each other.
So I came back to this video after just having watched The Promised Land and I'm so proud of the guys for how far they've come... :) Their love/hate relationship has always been at the heart of Red Dwarf, imho, and while it's had its ups and downs, it's immensely satisfying to see its depth being acknowledged like that.
The effect work on a show like this - with this kind of budget - is nothing short of amazing
These scene has stuck with me, and will do forever.
I love it... It makes me feel so sad and fuzzy at the same time.
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it really is. it's one of the things that makes his character actually likeable. you could so easily hate a character like that, but it's rimmer and you can't help but like him (love him in my case).
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The music in this scene is heart wrenching.
My favourite show and for the best writing out there.
I love the music in this scene, it's one of my favourite scenes because sometimes you just need to take a moment to yourself
the first seasons of RD where my favorite specially becuase it dealth more with the theme of the series of a guy sudenly losing everyone he ever knew and ending up alone in the universe with his only company being a computer , a simulation ran by computer and a being descended from cats trapped in the ship for millions of years
We all want to be Lister. But most of us are Rimmer.
I do not want to be lister, but i do not want to be rimmer either. They are both loosers.
I identify more with Captain Hollister, though he is more a side character. I know he gets some hate, but he is or was responsible for the lives of a city sized population of a crew.
I thought the other observation deck scene might have been on this clip as well, but no matter. Together I think they're the very best of Red Dwarf.
lol love the old cat, proper cat like
I wish I knew where to get the soundtracks for this series. The little incidental music tracks are so often really amazing in their own right.
The best comedy shows aren't just non-stop jokes
They've also pathos at their core, and regularly take moments to humanise their characters.
what's the name of the music at the beginning? is it an original piece f/ RD or was it borrowed? I just love it, it's really poignant
love the bit rimmers dads died id prefer chicken
Seasons I-VI in general are excellent, but Season II has to be my favourite. It's a perfect bridge between the bleakness of Season I and the more over the top comedy of the later seasons.
definitely agree with you there, I think the look of the ship was better then too and the music, very lamenting
This and thanks for the memories they made you fell sorry for Rimmer
" He went where my goldfish went. Thought he'd been flushed down the bog(?). Read the football scores down the toilet. ". 🤣🤣
Literally my favourite joke ever
still makes me laugh. you lads were amazing! thanks for the laughs!
Then it turned out Rimmer actually did better than his father
Party time for all the worms.....
The biggest fault and irony is that had Rimmer not been shot down through his life he might have ended up more like Lister and had Lister pushed himself more he might have ended up more like Rimmer.
That was their ironic fault, Lister just making his way through life without any ambition and Rimmer trying to gain the approval from people he was never going to get it from.
Despite their resentment for each other, Rimmer and Lister did rub off on each other, Lister did become much more comptent whereas Rimmer learned to at less try and have fun, just his idea of fun is the kind of fun only he'd like.
Access every 4th weekend to the family dog! What a line..
So I thought they flushed him down the bowl LoL
Good point, well made.
In my opinion series 2 of Red Dwarf was probably it's 'Golden' era.
no one gives two tugs of a dead dog's cock about your opinion fuckwad
@@KenMabie and no one gives a fuck about you you smeg head.
Would you guys like it if I recorded me playing this on piano?
no
yes
Rimmers dad's died!
I prefer chicken...
😂
@1451george yes that short piece is really beautiful I'd love to know too. Have wondered about it for years!
I get that Red Dwarf has a sort of... serialized thing? Everything has to reset to status quo. But scenes like this make me wish it didn't because... honestly? This is kind of a moving moment for the characters. No one has ever been kind to Rimmer - a lot of why he is the way he is is a result of that. Lister can still work up the empathy to BE kind to him, even though they're completely different people and started out hating each other. I would have liked to see things develop to a point where they are unironically best mates by the end of the series - cuz it's conceptually kinda funny that Rimmer could become a better person after his own death.
I'm not saying we jump into slash-fic territory, but I would have loved to see more scenes where we get that they do actually like each other.
I agree completely, although I adore the entire series, even the weaker parts, I always thought that the show should've had more heart-to-heart moments where the characters (mainly Lister and Rimmer) develop and understand each other better. It would've been cool that in the later series we would've seen Lister and Rimmer improving each other, with Lister being less a slob who works harder and Rimmer to take it easier and not focus on getting attention from people who will never give it to him.
@@magmus2 I personally have also read the books, and there are threads there I kinda wish had been more fully put into the show. For one - there's an implication in the first book that Rimmer is actually kind of a phenomenal artist. But he sees no value in it because of how he was raised and keeps trying to pursue something he's just not good at and not particularly INTERESTED in because that's what he was told success was. For another - Lister is really fucking smart. He just hasn't got the confidence or drive to put it to use, and often asks Kryten questions he himself knows the answers to because he doesn't trust himself to get it right. (That's kinda referenced in Inquisitor, but not TOO heavily as far as I remember?) Like stuff like this makes me kinda wish we'd see a comedy/drama reboot of Red Dwarf, which is more structured around a continuous storyline with this sorta development. Although the unfortunate thing about that is the original cast are older now, and I don't really know that Red Dwarf could work with a different cast.
Good point, sir!
Great scene - and one of the links between Red Dwarf and its inspiration, "Dark Star." That ship also had an observation dome that the characters liked to go to when they were feeling contemplative. But Rimmer isn't talking about waxing his surfboard :)
Yay, Someone else out here remembers that strangely dark but quirky movie .To this day I hate beach balls!
@@kittymama9186 Especially beach balls that scuttle along on their clicky little claws... (shudder)
my stomach has been pumped and now I'm hungry!!
Doesn't get more real than this.
They could say there is a glitch with the computer making him look aged
nspcc would have a field day with rimmer's dad
Sad scene didn’t touch as much until I recently lost my dad
What's the wind nose supposed to be? They're in space.
Internal air system to simulate wind, or to create airflow in the bubble.
happy BLOODY fathers day.
Its interesting this scene.
Considering The Hologram is nothing more than a computer simulation, this scene is basically rimmer talking to a fake person alone on the observation deck of a ship millions of years away from his home that's probably long gone.
As opposed to all the other sci-fi comedies to come out of the uk prior to red dwarf.
This scene in a way reminds me of the funeral of Granddad in OFAH. It's sombre and you feel sorry for the people involved, you can feel their pain, more so in OFAH as they'd also attended the funeral in real life for Granddads actor a week before. But at the end, Del see's Granddad's trilby hat and throws it into the grave and a minute later, the vicars asking where his hat is and then you laugh when you realize what's happened.
This scene has Cat coming in to bring back the comedy, "I'd prefer chicken."
“I’m sorry, have you seen my hat?”
3:12 Those flared nostrils
🤣😂cat 🐈
I actually really loved the sombre take Season VII took. It feels like they missed the major fact of the plot in the other seasons, everybody's dead. It's sad, I know it's a comedy, but they should have put a few downers in there too.
Thusly was well described.
Ironically, he wasn't his real father
anibody know the music that is played as lister walks up the stairs??
ps the cat is the greatest reminds me of micheal jackson :D
0:57 - 1:17 - hilarious!
Anyone know what the song is called or if there is a video out there of just the music?
I love cookies.
does anyone know what the song is called that plays in the background at the start of this clip?
What's the music 😫😫😫😫
It's called "Rimmer's Grief" by Howard Goodall.
who is the stomach pump guy?? awesome
Cat's suit looks amazing
I thought Rimmer's father is a gardener named Denis.
That wasn’t reveled until season X
Abandoned as a baby, Lister was found under a pool table, in a box ( as a baby ). He never knew his parents & consequently, never knew his grandparents.
Doesn't mean he can't have had adopted parents and grandparents.
@@lewstherintelamon244 :: that's true. but don't you think, for continuity, he should have said :: my adopted parents, blah, blah, blah ; my adopted grandparents, blah ... ?
@@cliffgaither Considering he was adopted as a baby, I doubt that would be the way he would refer to the people who raised him.
As far as Lister knows, his biological parents ran out on him. Why should he bother to pay lip service to the idea that they are his "real" parents rather than the people who took him in and gave him a place to call home?
It would come across as stilted and awkward if he had done so, and more like the writers were trying to exposite Lister's backstory rather than how an ordinary person would approach the subject.
@@lewstherintelamon244 :: ABSOLUTELY RIGHT !
A woman once introduced me to her son. I said ::
"He looks just like you".
she said ::
"Oh, he's adopted !"
I felt like an idiot and immediately apologized. She said "no problem, it happens all the time".
It goes back to what you commented ::
Why would Lister refer to the people who adopted him, as a baby, in those terms ? They are the only parents he had known !
The woman I met wanted a baby so much, she & her husband adopted a baby-boy. They loved him so much, he grow-up looking like _the mother._
I completely forgot about that family !
You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT !
It wasnt abandoned it came out like 4-8 mounths ago
and while kryton is in wish mode
lets ask the bc to bring back the tripods, too!!
In the end we have to ask why is there humor in the universe.
I'd really appreciate if someone could tell me the name of the piece of music at the start of this scene
Hardly a wonder how rimmer became a smeghead. His dad was one to begin with and the gene passed on.
This scene is tragic and the laugh track does it a disservice
@PhillyGirl1 Oroboross!
If Rimmer is a hologram then why would he be hungry?
The sensation is simulated. Rewatch ep 1, he literally explains this. It is such an advanced form of technology that can simulate all emotions and sensations. Possible? Probably no according to some, and someday according to others, but in a scifi comedy would not overthink it.
didnt notice lister makes a few mistakes in this..
Don't ever watch RD and expect continuity, and it got worse past series 6. By 10 they said fuck it and didn't even try anymore. Sad as I am a big fan of the show and overlook it, but it triggers my "by the canon" continuity side.
@@thebeststoogeThe canon obsession can get a bit pedantic though. Red Dwarf can explain it away with different times and past events involving space-time retconning things and splitting timelines. Some even say the season 3 is a slightly different timeline than seasons 1&2, and most remember stuff like stasis leak and all the ways that may have influenced the timeline.
The best way to think about it, with stuff like stasis leak and "the inquisitor", is that the same events for the most part happened, but sometimes you are watching slightly retconned versions of the characters: yet most of the other versions and their histories still exist. What binds the versions of the characters followed in the whole series is this, and this is all that matters: they are the boys from the dwarf. Rimmer in later seasons may even exemplify this, as he is hinted to be a merging of both pre-nanobot resurrection hologram Rimmer, and post-nanobot resurrection Rimmer. They just avoid going into all of this as it may be boring and most would be saying "hurry up I just want the plot to move forward."
i ship them so hard.....
Me too, oh my gosh.
They’re made for each other.
Then you need to grow up. It is one step from incel to not be content with platonic relationships, and most people who are "LGBT" dislike the types that treat it as a fad or as less mundane or normal than hetero relationships. If you want to normalise it, then do not treat it as better or worse than hetero relationships. In summary: grow up.
Which episode is this? Asking for a friend (the friend is me)
Better than life?
@HaleyChain-vw8rr yeah I rewatched red dwarf recently and found it, but thanks :)))
@PhillyGirl1 Yes, but he could have been abopted.
so if Lister's dad died doesnt that mean ... he's dead?
Mind blown
sorry to ruin this, but it's his adoptive father
@@blueiris574 he didn't have one he was raised by his Gran
He’s dead Dave
@@GIBBO4182 they're all dead Dave
Can't sleep? Rimmer's a hologram. Surely they don't sleep.
He does sleep.
yeah I hear ya, was so much better when they were bums.
Oh look, a 14 year old comment. I have officially been on the internet too long.
FIRST 6 OR 7 SEASONS WAS SOME OF BEST BRITISH TV HAS PRODUCED.. and you could find all those seasons here on youtube before a politically correct feminist took over the charge of youtube... now you can only find the bad seasons after 7 where the woman is part of the crew