Morgott and Mohg, the Omen Twins | Origin of the Omens theory | Loathsome Dung Eater | Elden Ring
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- In this video we go over the lore of Morgott and Mohg, the Omen twins. Demi-god children of Queen Marika and Godfrey
Table of Content:
0:00. Introduction
0:20. What are Omens
1:35. The Loathsome Dungeater & Omens
2:50. The Twin Omen Demi-Gods
3:20. Morgott, the Grace Given
8:21. Mohg, The Lord of Blood
10:39. Varre
13:42. Mohg cont.
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Elden Ring OST:
Morgott, The Grace Given
Roundtable Hold
Subterranean Shunning-Grounds
Character Creation
Mohg, Lord of Blood - Ігри
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NIHIL!!
Edit(3/26): Clarifications on the video. Thanks to everyone who pointed out certain ideas and confusing bits in the video:
First, the origin of the omens with the Loathsome Dung Eater, this at best is a theory and I'll be honest a pretty weak theory from me, I included it because there really just isn't that much solid written down in-game information about how the first Omens came to be. The only ones I could find were all the Omen related stuff with Dung Eater (Seedbed Curse/His Armor/His Dialogue) he also states that he has killed thousands, so he's been at this for a while.
Second, the opening cinematic where Morgott was fighting what looked like a soldier in Radahn's armor. I believe that this is simply a champion of Radahn or something similar. I didn't feel the need to hyper focus on that because that's the only scene we have of that moment and there's no item descriptions that talk about that. So I left it at "He killed countless champions".
oh and 1 last thing, the Dung Eater is NOT an anti-hero, he's twisted beyond sanity. But hey as you can see in my profile picture, I have horns too, maybe I'm an Omen~~~
Thank you!
NIHIL!!!
NIHIL!!
Seems i am too late
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How ironic that Morgott and Mohg, omen children cursed from birth with a wretched existence are the only two demigods still perfectly healthy by the time of the game.
And 2 pretty big roadblocks for tarnished as well. Damn you discrimination
Because unlike most omens, their horns were not cut off at birth. I suppose because it was hidden they were omens
Mohg seems pretty sick tbh
@@parkerluciani7048 Hes pretty nuts but doesn't seem too sick
@@parkerluciani7048 He's pretty sick but he doesn't seem too nuts.
Historically twins were considered bad omens, especially two males, because it would likely lead to a power struggle.
Even in cases when there was already a senior heir?
@@kingnofplazma7322 safe to assume no, in normal cases
@@kingnofplazma7322 yes but the older brother o the trio (or more) could die due to many reasons and if that happened the twins would have to prove themselves in some way
I’m a twin and this is still the case 😂
@@costlydolphin7731 good thing u weren’t born back then 😲😲😯😦😧😮😮😮😬😬😬🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫
Mohg has no business being the only Omen with aesthetically pleasing horns
That actually makes sense, now that you mention it. Morgott sees his curse as a monstrous thing to be hated, explaining why his horns are lopsided and tumor-like. Meanwhile Mohg, accepting and embracing his curse, has symmetrical horns, as if they were a perfectly natural part of him.
@@nopenope6150 Not only that, but if you look closely Mohg is 100% fine with the horns growing into him
Mohg has divine blood so that might have something to do with it
@@braderaku they are twins the both have it
@@Daan-Dovah yeah but mohg literally has divine blood in it's purest form
I wish the Mohgwyn Dynasty was a secret ending like Ranni's. That halfway through or something you'd actually get that audience and was rewarded a special spell of Mohg and a bigger reward before the ending.
A mogh ending could be cool he could ask you to infuse the elden ring with his blood to create a new order and defeat the elden beast to put the formless mother as the outer god of the land between I really hope we will see other outer god in DLC
Maybe you need to do varre quest and don't use the medallion until final boss??
@@artynsnow514 it's true i didn't try that but i guess some guys must already try without specif result.
@@redyu77 probably I've heard data miners found an ending called "age of blood" idk if it scrapped idea or just super hidden
@@artynsnow514 probably cut content but well they added jar bairn and some npc's end quest in last patch so perhabs we will be able to create the moghwyn dynasty in the next one
If you read a bunch of the incantation descriptions along with the weird tumor thing you can get from the Albinauric village you're given a pretty clear picture of what Omens are. They're people blessed by the primordial source of the Erdtree's power. The "Primordial Crucible" which is basically pure chaotic life energy. The horns grow on them like tumors, and beings touched by the crucible grow weird mouthy tails like the one Margit has, or the ones the Crucible Knights copy when they do the tail spin miracle attack at you. The descriptions also say that in the past, when the Erdtree was recently discovered, people marked with these growths, horns and tumors were considered blessed by the Erdtree. They were seen as marked by the power of life itself, but over time, as civilization took hold and people began to abandon the old, shamanistic worship of the Erdtree in favor of an organized religion, marks of chaos became stigmatized and hated by the people of the Lands Between. As a result they started killing, hunting or otherwise shunning and hiding these people away.
Again, wanna say that this isn't a theory I made up, but is actually what you can find in item descriptions for the game. In the past the people of the Lands Between were in touch with chaos and raw life energy but over time became more organized and started shunning people who bore the "blessings" of their old faith. Kind of sucks honestly. If Margit/Morgott and Mohg had been born hundreds of years ago they'd basically all have been treated like Prophets or Saints.
super interesting stuff, ty
This is spot on, I have been spreading the same information whenever I see lore speculation on The Crucible or Omen not making the connection. The Crucible talismans mention that aspects of The Crucible showing up are a sign of "devolution" and the Misbegotten have been enslaved for somehow making contact with The Crucible and gaining some of its aspects. The Omen are a sign that the Erdtree is making mistakes in the eyes of the nobility, for even children of the Eternal Queen can be "cursed" with these aspects from birth.
The Crucible being life in its primordial form is most likely the oldest form of life we know, Ancient Dragons. Scales, horns, tails, wings, fire breath. I also speculate that Beasts are primordial life as well, the Misbegotten sure do seem incredibly beastial..
What about the Misbegotten? Weren’t they normal ppl who touched the crucible too?
@@jacobhugo6964 Pretty sure that's what they are. Beastmen may come in a lot of shapes and sizes but almost all of them share very similar looks. The Misbegotten are likely either *very* unfortunate looking demi-humans or are indeed touched by chaos. My money is on them being touched by chaos, which seems to be a bit of info people have that I haven't seen.
@@picklefathernurgle2719 From Winged Misbegotten Ashes: "A spirit with the aspect of wings which takes flight to loose arrows from its bow. The misbegotten are held to be a punishment for making contact with the Crucible, and from birth they are treated as slaves, or worse."
They might have been demihuman or just human, but now they are touched by the Crucible.
"Please, don't hate me, or curse me. Please"
GOD I NEVER FELT SO SAD FROM A ITEM DESCRIPTION SINCE LUCATIEL
Actually I feel like Morgott has been released from the sewers WAY before the Shattering. We know that Godfrey cared about him so he had to be out of there at the time when Godfrey was still waging war against the Giants since the moment he won was the moment he was banished. He also created Sentry Torches after Godwyn's death at the hands of Black Knives and gave them to the forces of Leyndell which shows that he was at that point already at a pretty high level of power. Mogh on the other hand was kept in the sewers to guard the Three Fingers most likely.
I also have a theory that Morgott in fact really cared about Godwyn and Godwyn about him. Godwyn was described as someone who was ready to befriend dragons who were enemies of Erd Tree at the time so it's not that much of a stretch to think that he didn't care about Morgott's curse either and truly loved him as a brother.
And then he was killed and his death had quite an impact on Morgott who then made torches that were meant to reveal assassins who killed him. It's also possible that Rykard took the blame for Godwyn's death as a part of the deal with Ranni for Blasphemous Claw and because of that Morgott launched an attack on him, this was Rykard's Blasphemy and this is why he mentions Rykard with more spiteful tone than the other Demigods. He thinks he killed his only family member that loved him. Really depressing.
I think Miquella cared for his brother to a degree. In the description of a large golden sword, it says that a young boy made a prayer hoping that his brother, Godwyn, may die a true death. The only “young boy” sibling at the time of his death would’ve had to been Miquella.
@@AlbertusSalvatierra Godwyn seemed to be liked by everyone really. Also I had a cute idea that Miquella started going around Lands Between as Saint Trina because Morgott has his own secret identity as Margit and Miquella thought that he is really cool. I know it probably wasn't it, but good lord would that be wholesome.
@@AzraelSoulHunter Lol. Yeah, it kinda sounds like fan fiction tbh but it’s a cute idea nonetheless.
@@AlbertusSalvatierra I mean a wholesome fanfic set in times of the Erdtree where Demigods are up to their own shenanigans seems like a pretty fun idea. Of course sometimes with darker moments like Ranni planning death of Godwyn and Malenia corrupting Haligtree which I believe happened BEFORE she fought against Radahn and that is when Miquella created the Golden Needle which Malenia later broke in her fight against Radahn and caused second blooming.
The more i hear about godwyn the golden the more i realise that he really was the best of the demigods. He just seemed like an awesome dude that everyone liked.
Morgott and General Radahn. Two people you hate at first but grow to give great respect
I agree, Morgott and Radahn were worthy of their titles till the end. It sounds pathetic but I teared up a little when I reads Morgott’s rune, despite his ill treatment he still was a truer lord than most. Using hatred to push himself to greater heights rather then just taking it out on others like Mohg. Not that I don’t like Mohg though “lord of blood” is a badass title to have.
indeed
I love Radahn so much, I'm having doubts to kill him to that he may live or kill him to end his suffering
@@thefinger1776 I always give him the warriors end because he deserves it
Radahn sure, but why would you hate Margit/Morgott based off the first encounters? Seemed like a nice guy.
The fact that someone/something like Mohg was guarding the way to the Three Fingers, assuming to stop anyone from getting to it, should show just how bad the frenzied flame is.
Do you also believe that gold is evil because men with guns are guarding the vaults? More expensive guards = more evil?
Or maybe you don't have pinwheel guarding shit you actually like.
@@mrhappyface4181 someone been doing drugs
That was only an illusion, it's not actually Mohg. You can tell because it doesn't bleed, frostbite, get poisoned, etc. Maybe it was Mohg who made the illusion, though it'd make more sense if it was Morgott who did so. Morgott has every reason to block the entrance to the Three Fingers, Mohg doesn't.
@@Nezxmi It could be that Mohg made that illusion in order to trick people into believing that he's still down there, imprisoned/or guarding his post as most omens should be. Either that or maybe he still somewhat has a sense of duty, since I'm not sure if it's been stated if he has any disdain to the golden lineage, especially since his twin brother's territory is just above the sewers.
@@Ardiar21 If we look at the greater context I think Mohg does have disdain for the Golden Order, though maybe not it’s lineage. Mohg worships the Formless Mother, a separate Outer God from the Greater Will. He also wishes to become consort to Miquella, another person who wishes to replace the Golden Order. So it wouldn’t make much sense for him to protect the Golden Order, indirectly or otherwise.
I figure it’s gotta be Morgott creating the illusion as he cares about the Golden Order more than any other Demi-God and is the only one who would know of Mohg anyway.
Martin and Fromsoft did an excellent job with some of these characters. I honestly just want more from them. More Godrick, more Radahn, Malenia, Morgott, Malekith, all of em. I wanna seem em do more, they’re interactions, previous lives, hopefully DLC gives us more insight. Morgott is very interesting to me. And he kinda reminds me of Gwyndolin, a neglected and mistreated son simply because of the nature of his birth, who wanted to be loved and accepted and despite the wrongdoings they endured, fought tooth and nail to uphold the order of their parents. Seeing himself as a failure, never forgiving himself for something beyond his control, yet honestly and truly serving as a great and valiant defender of his home and bloodline, who just couldn’t see past the circumstances of his birth. What a cool fucking character man. This game is awesome
They also introduce a lot of god which could plot/appear in sequel. The entire universe seem as good and mysterious as souls game
@@redyu77 I’ll disagree with you just a tad. I don’t think it’s quite as mysterious as Souls. Souls, to be, very much seems to be designed in a way that the themes, metaphors, symbolism, and gaps are the point. It’s very interpretative, and that makes Souls very special. Elden Ring seems a little bit more black and white, a bit less steeped in metaphor and allegory, it feels a bit more traditionally lore-y. I think both are fantastic, with the core difference being Dark Souls makes me think about what it’s trying to say, whereas Elden Ring gives me settings and characters that I wanna know more in depth
@@connorryan2715 lmao dude did you even play the game? It is chalk full of metaphor, symbolism and there is no definitive black and white only your interpretation.
@@connorryan2715 how things black and white? Every God has their own ambitions and how the world should be run.
He and Radahn truly are the most noble Demi Gods out of all of them
The Regal Omen Bairn is just *depressing* to look at. When you encounter a full grown monster that's just a brutish tangle of horns growing every which way, you think "aaaaggghhhh! die!" and start blasting. But then you see a representation of that same monster as an infant, realise how utterly abject and *unjust* an existence that must have been, and......
The Greater Will made a mistake, torment, despair, affliction, every sin, every curse, everyone, born of the mistake, And so, what was borrowed must be returned...
@@hawkwood9257 become the elden lord not through sacrifice but might and virtue burn away the peoples curse may chaos take the world
@@hawkwood9257 What you mean? The Greater WIll doesn't created the world or something and sadly we have little information about what the Omens are.
@@cyrusmuller6502 MAY CHAOS
T A K E
THE W O R L D
@@reactiondavant-garde590 That's in-game dialogue lol.
Grim: it might be not Mogh fault that his dynasty is devoid of champions. The cursed blood those champions received may have turned them into blood thirsty invaders.
Me who have been invaded by four River of bloods invader today: yep, that is accurate.
Rather than having his cursed name tied with the Erdtree, Capital, and the throne, I believe Morgott had wanted to keep a low profile when he wasn't actively governing the Leyndell Capital, which is why he subtly changed his name to Margit. This can be evident from Gideon Ofnir's dialogue when giving information about Morgott. He refers to Morgott as Lord of Leyndell, meaning that it may be widely known that whoever has control of the Capital is someone named Morgott. Gideon also states that "The Veiled Monarch can wait" meaning that nobody knows who Morgott is or what they look like. Though you could still definitely be right about Morgott not wanting his Omen cursed name publicly associated with the Capital. Morgott is a high profile name, meaning that he could potentially be hunted down by any Tarnished or even by the other shardbearers. Margit though, is an unknown name. Name of an Omen, and one of a championed warrior who is at Stormveil Castle guarding the weakest shardbearer, Godrick the Grafted.
That's a good catch, I actually missed that he was called the "Veiled Monarch".
Oh thanks for this it explains a lot, ik it's not fact for sure but it's the best explanation I've seen. I find it hilarious how he his alternate name sounds almost the same as his actual name but no one seems to connect the dots lmao.
@@ItchiestBum they sound similar but they are different names.
@@HerMi.T ya ik
You'd think a lord such as Morgott would pick a clever name for a disguise instead of something that sounds like his real one
Morgott's curse symptoms were released during his second phase, when the curse exploded out of him... my theory is, that the curse couldn't handle the amount of love Morgott carried, for his family, home, and his people.
Ah yes. The anime ending.
Could possibly explain why Mohg's horns look so extravagant and well grown. The hatred and spite he harbors strengthens the curse, and himself.
@@danglesmcbutternut4088 That's it exactly, Morgott's horns seem dull and cut off in contrast to how sharp and aggressive Mohg's are.
@@maleniahateaccount7090 It might even be that Morgott treats his horns, trying to hold back the "curse" he holds within his blood. There are signs along his body of horn trimming. Especially along his left side
@@treyatkinson7564 When you defeat him and speak to him on the ground behind the throne, he no longer has any horns at all
Came here for mohg and morgott but instead we got THE LOATHSOME DUNG EATER!!!
Morgott the Omen King, the Stannis Baratheon of FromSoft:
Hated, Unloved, Rejected and in turn He hated them, from beginning to end. Bust most of all, LOYAL. He serves those he hate and everything he does is he to serve his duty. The only of all Marika's Demigod childrens to stay loyal to Her Empire and it citizens and did everything to protect it. For Loyalty is it own reward. And in the end, He was the only Demigod, along with Godwin, to be mourned by the simple citizens and by his father
Omg somenody said it finally
Morgott the first, long may be reign.
@@Crispifordthe3rd515 The Last King of Leyndall
When Godfrey was cradling his body *tears*
@Perverted Creep And dont expect him, to ever will. martin is a writer, but He worked in productions and Tv Shows, as well.
He knows D&D screwd up any potential the story had
7:10 One thing I find interesting about Morgott is that he takes over the bodies of meager soldiers to fight you. Not sure what it means or why. It seems like he has some power over illusion or light.
The funny thing is that I already defeated Morgott and some time later encounter this soldier, I was so confused
@@Igoorboy Same here.
Another speculation is that Morgott can turn others into Margit - a weaker version of himself to do his bidding. The Margit we fought at Stormveil may be one commander that was turned into Margit to stop the tarnish's advance
@@chibao4522 nah it's just spirit apparitions like when you fight godfrey for the first time, not much to indicate anything otherwise
I was waiting for this one. The intro cinematic shows morgott's battle against radahn and was wondering when that happened. Not sure if the person morgott appears to be fighting (or stomping on) is actually radahn or somebody else.
This is Radanh’s soldier
@@maestrrsantarael6590 I thought so too. But the armor looks distinctively unique like the one radahn wears and you can see the surrounding soldiers in the shot of them. Also, even if it was just his soldier, doesn't that mean that radahn could have been there at the capital during that battle? I am trying to find a source on if the battle between the redmane army (radahn's army) and the leyndell army did happen. But so far I got nothing on it, except the failed invasion attempt by godrick and his army to takeover the capital leyndell.
Radahn is at least twice the size of Morgott and he's always on his horse, I doubt that's Radahn, but we need Michael Zaki to confirm.
@@jellydamgood "Michael Zaki" 😂
@@jellydamgood Good point! I completely forgot about their size differences😅
Joke's on Mohg, Miquella was actually attempting to get rid of the influence of outer gods, so of course he would reject the cursed blood. That guy really didn't do his homework.
Unless Miquella is the formless mother..
Honestly morgott is one of my favourite characters in elden ring, his lore, the fight, the reveal that margit is morgott etc.
I think the same about Radahn
I find found these two fascinating. I love how they're basically polar opposites. One hated what he was, sealed away his powerful blood and sought to protect the very thing that rejected him. The other embraced what he was, used his blood to its full power and sort to usurp what rejected him.
Morgott, Radahn, and Mohg are my favourite characters in Elden Ring
What about Ranni?
@@emincash6931 nah, I like malenia and Miquella more then her.
She's cool tho
@@cloberlobster2276 what about THE LOATHSOME DUNG EATTER! ?
@@draw2death421 I feel nothing but disgust and distraught towards it's existence.
@@cloberlobster2276 bruh he wants to make more people like morgott and mohg. Dung eater is the true hero
Man I always knew this guy Varre was just trying to get me into a pyramid scheme
That must have been hell for Marika birthing two babies with horns on them.
That depends if they had horns during gastration.
I got a theory on what omens might be; since omens are born at random, it's possible that the souls of beings who were cursed during their previous lives ended up possessing the bodies of fetuses before the greater will granted them a soul. (since the dung eater says that cursing and defiling his victims prevents their souls from being "returned" to the erdtree). to further extrapolate on that, it could also be that tarnished are those borne without receiving their soul from the greater will, as well as those who fall out of favor with the erdtree like we see with Godfrey.
I just beat Mohg for the first time today (I’m on NG+ but completely skipped him in NG), and he’s by far one of my favorite bosses in the game. Everything about him is incredible: the voice acting, the design, the boss arena, the lore, the actual mechanics, the OST… just incredible. You genuinely can’t be overlevelled when fighting him. If you don’t pay maximum respects when facing him, you’ll get your ass kicked, especially if you don’t take advantage of both tools the game gives you earlier in the game to help you out.
It didn't dawn on me till watching this how differently the characters speak from each other. The demigods speak in achaic english, while the tarnished speak in modern english. Varre speaks fairly plainly, while Ranni talks like a character from a 60's Thor comic. I wonder if its more complex than that. I have to start paying attention to who speaks in what way going forward.
Mohg even throws in some latin
Margit speaks like he's a Shakespearean character is also foreshadowing that, despite looking like a hobo goatman, he is a demigod.
The OST for the sewer mohg boss fight is called “omen illusion”, which confirms your theory. It seems a lot of characters are able to create illusions of themselves in other places. I think margit has done that multiple times, and we know for certain both the dung eater and Sellen have done it. I’m still wondering why mohg wants to protect the flame of frenzy. Is the outer god of frenzy linked to the formless mother? Or is the flame of frenzy so dangerous that even mohg is worried about it?
The Frenzied Flame is effectively anti-life. All it wants is to destroy everything. All life, the world itself. Anybody who has a dream for the future that isn't just empty, barren flame has incentive to keep people away from the Three Fingers and the Frenzied Flame. Given that he grew up in those sewers, and would likely be aware of the Three Fingers, and given that Mohg has dreams of a royal dynasty, I think it makes sense that he would try to stop you from unleashing the end of the world.
Yo but for real, morgott is a Chad in his cut scene. He basically says, "you and all your tarnished buddies are bitches and they can write that on your grave after I'm done."
Too bad he then proceeded to get absolutely stomped.
Also, the albinaurics at the moghwyn palace, probably because the persecution they receive everywhere else. You see a bunch of albinaurics kneeling before a bloodnoble. And the ones that aren't infected by the blood yet, at the palace approach cliffs site of grace, thet seem lethargic, and in despair
The Dung Eater's role in relation to the Omen is confusing and debatable. The indication of having "the soul of an Omen without the body to match" wouldn't make a lot of sense if he predated and was the sole source of their origin, and if Godfrey recognizes Morgott personally, it's likely Morgott would have been born before the Tarnished were cast out, and be older than the Dung Eater.
The Omens blood negatively effects the Erdtrees. The jars collect bodies (and souls probably) to dump at the roots of the trees to feed the trees. So Omen can not be used as fertilizer like everyone else. So likely what that line means is that the Dung Eater's very existence is to bring down the trees and the order with them. Even if his body is not the poison to the trees that true Omen are. That's why he curse people with Omen blood so more Omen are born. His realization is him sacrificing himself to bring down the entire order and the weird ass alien celestial farm they got going on. Marika's family is nothing but super powerful farmers given power to keep order while the alien celestial god drains the planet of it's life source. That's my theory anyway. The Craziest dude is actually the only one who understands the truth and wants to protect the world.
This is the channel i look foward to uploading the most! love the lore
With the way miqullas hand is laying out of that cocoon, it makes me feel that it might be how we enter a DLC later on.
Well, that checked out 😂
I actually love Morgotts character and in a way i feel bad for him. The dude is just loyal to his mother. This also explains why every damn invader i get is an arcane build lol
In the current absence of Vaati’s lore videos, your take on Elden Rings lore and the editing of your videos are very good, and nearly on par with Vaati in my humble opinion.
Thank you for the awesome vids and look forward to seeing your future lore videos
One thing you didn't mention which I thought interesting is the type of fire the Omens sometimes use. It is a different fire from any other in the game, it's not frenzied flame, nor giants flame, nor black flame. But it seems to come naturally to them as Morgott uses it with the blade made from his blood and the Omens can belch it from their mouths, it's a black and yellow flame, the Dung eater also uses it, is there any explanation to what it is?
The flames that they have looks very similar to the death status effect, things like the eclipse shotel weapon art or the death lighting incantation. Major difference is that omen fire doesn't actually afflict death, despite looking similar.
I thought it was holy damage, maybe tainted. But it does have the same colours as the death blight
Have you seen the final boss and it's holy flame? This is likely a twisted cursed version of that, as it still deals holy damage.
Just found your channel today. Was binging videos before noticing this one came out. Good job so far! Loving the content
Finaly! I was waiting forever for someone to make a video on Mohg! Hes probably the lord i know least about.
keep up the vids dude! really enjoying the lore of Elden Ring.
Amazing video as always Cant wait for more
Dude the way you ended the video with the line “if everyone is an omen then no one will be” gave me chills! Amazing story telling! I think the dung eater isn’t doing it in a place of making everyone the same to make sure the omens aren’t outcasts though I think he wants everybody to share in the suffering he does.
I find the ones that are sleeping, clearly laughing in their dreams quite sweet. They've had such cursed lives that it nice seeing them happy. Even if its only in their dreams. Which in turn is pretty sad.
these lore vids have been the best out there for elden ring so far
Great video, actually feel sorry for the Omens and sheds a sort of positive twist to the dung eater's ending. The Omens were treated unjustly under the golden order, this ending at least allows them to be equal. #JusticeForOmens
You're making some good stuff here my guy, keep it up!
i love how these teo are polar opposites of response to trauma/oppression. Morgott falls into the ideas pushed on him, learning to hate himself more and more, dedicating himself fully to his oppressors. Mohg refuses to hate himself, to hide himself away. Instead he draws power from what supposedly curses him, carving a new life were his imperfections are sacred. A real shame about the blood murder cult.
FANTASTIC video. Thank you!
The Genshin videos were already impressive… but the Elden one’s are bringing your talents to a whole other level!!! I want more
Morgott treating the other demigods as traitor & pillager while his own brother is scheming something more sinister.
I don't think he even knows about it. Even gideon didn't know about miquella and mohg.
He probably don't even know.
Morgott rejects Mohg aswell, out of all of Marika's children he is by far the most loyal.
He probably doesnt count Mohg as a traitor because traitor would imply he ever was on their side to begin with.
My take is that he hates his brother just like he hates himself from being an omen.
He doesn't mentioning Mogh in Lyndell is likely because of two reasons:
1. He only mentions the demigods that had a throne within Lyndell which Mogh doesn't has.
2. Just like any Golden order fanatic he pretends omens don't exists and intentionally casts his brother aside and isn't even aware of his actions.
What a coincidence, just saw the poll you made a few days ago asking what character we wanted you to cover, and after voting for the blood lord I scroll down and see this very video.
Just found your channel and your lore videos are amazing. Very easy to understand. Kudos
Holy shit I was just thinking about if you were gonna make this video or not. Good shit!!
love your work on Elden Ring man! Could you consider doing one on Crumbling Farum Azulas history
You're making the best lore videos for this game
you have amazing content, plz keep it up on eldenring. ive learned so much from your videos for lore.
I can not tell you how much I appreciate you making lore videos for this game. I love this game. Truly. Best money I've spent on a game since I bought the first the last of us. But I hardly understand any story.
You´re doing an amazing job! Keep going!
I love these videos. Thank you!!
this video makes the dung eater come over as strangely compassionate for some reason
Loving the demigod lore videos!!!
I didn’t know any of the lore when I saw the mohg fight, but holy shit I was so hyped to find out what the deal with that badass boss fight. I am not disappointed
yaaaas more lore, thank you!!
Haven't actually seen any other lore/theories that draw a connection between the Omens and the Dung Eater's ending. Very interesting stuff.
I'm a sucker for lore especially for Dark souls , Bloodborne type stuff ... Lol I was looking for the lore behind Godwyn and I found this page , just subscribed I think I'll enjoy it here ... Keep it up
Tank you arlun!! Cool video and good content
Everything in this game is so unbelievably tragic. I love it.
Thanks GRR Martin I hate it
Your videos are amazing!!
I like how Mohg looks like a laughable caricature while Morgott is a lot more dignified.......it makes sense too, he's Grace Given after all
Great video!
Why is Morgott titled "The Grace Given?" This seems pretty important to cover. The game repeatedly says that Omens are denied Grace. If we interpret "Grace Given" to mean that he *was* granted Grace despite being an Omen, then we might be led to believe that Morgott's choice to defend the Erdtree was guided by Grace. But this opens up a HUGE can of worms.
If Grace leads us to subjugate Marika and Radagon and become Elden Lord, why would Grace lead Morgott to defend the Erdtree and, importantly, to declare the other demigods as traitors? I suppose we can see it as the Greater Will pushing all great rune holders to fight for supremacy, but I don't know why he would then hold such disdain for the other demigods.
One possible answer for which there's no evidence: the Greater Will, unable to directly guide the mind of Morgott due to his Omen curse, used his love for Marika and the Erdtree to manipulate the king into joining the War of the Shattering. But then, this still wouldn't warrant the title "Grace Given"--unless it's meant as a mockery, which would be truly sad for such a noble man.
EDIT: Another possibility is that he's meant to be the "Grace-Given," with a hyphen. Meaning someone placed in the Lands Between by direct intervention of the Greater Will... which means Omenhood is from that particular Outer God.
Wow great video man 🤯
thanks g i always wanted to know the lore behind the dung eater ..didnt found much in his armor set and sword
Very good video man
Great vid!! Please do the frenzied flame next
The quest for the elden ring is to retrace the march to defend the golden order. Following the markers and begin the complete the oldest cycle. Your union into the eldest family, creating another branch in the family tree
Seeing Godfrey cradle his son fucking broke me
Poor morgott, despite the treatment he still protect his mother throne and never claimed it.
I like the visual differences too, Morgott actively shaved and cut some of his horns, maybe to look more godly or like his siblings - while Mohg just goes full demonic with his horns, almost proud of his omen-ness
Is that 'cursed at birth with horns" a reference to Ico and Shadow? They're rather similar and I wouldn't be surprised if fromsoftware was inspired in some sense, same with the walking mausoleums
Awesome video! I'm still trying to figure out who Morgott was fighting in the opening cinematic. That red hair is peculiar.
the gloves look like they belong to radahn. though, i cant really see radahn losing to morgott
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I mean that image could just be morgott knocking radahn down, if that is radahn I imagine he would get up pretty easily after that
Based on the one fellow in the field becoming Margit, I felt that both of the twins had a means to project through minions. Effectively making lesser, cloned versions of themselves that they could send out. Hence the weaker forms encountered outside of their respective homes.
That syndrome quote was magnificent
Well done analysis, but you should do a 2nd part about the Omenkillers and evil perfumers working with them who hunt down Omens and kill them, who is behind them and why are they everywhere even in the capital itself, I have a theory that they are working for Ofnir but I haven't looked into it enough yet, this is just an impression I had from the quests I finished in my first playthrough.
I gurantee you that miquellas egg is going to be the entry point to this games DLC area
I hope for the dlc they do something like with ds1’s where we get to go back and time and see what it was like before the shattering of the elden ring. Maybe give us some insight to the demigods as a whole and how the golden lineage came to fall
You somehow made the Dung Eater a tragically misunderstood character and somehow… less loathsome
Nah he's an asshole taking out his anger on the world by doing what he thinks is the worst possible thing he can do to people. The fact that Morgott was able to redeem himself and show empathy for those who rejected him, doesn't make what the dung eater is doing any less twisted, he's turning people into omens specifically because he thinks it's bad for them.
A blessing can be a curse, a curse can be a blessing. Keep the little things in mind
Sick incredibles reference at the end
The crucible knot talisman tells something about people who had primordials traits. They were first seen as divine creature and then as impure, so that maybe what omens are, creature with traits that resemble the crucible.
This is my favorite game since the Witcher 3.. and with dlc coming out for this game and the amounts of hidden secrets.. your page could become lit off just this game alone
It's interesting what you say about the incarnation of Mohg below the capital being an illusion meant to guard against the frenzied flame. On my second playthrough I beat Morgott at the base of the erdtree, where he dies and sheds his omen curse, before battling him near the wall. That would lead me to believe that the latter isn't really Morgott either. He appears there in the same way that a slave in Limgrave turns into a giant bear. Idk what that's all about, but maybe there's something to it.
Praised be the Mohgwyn dynasty!
On the more serious note, I have a theory on what is the source of the Omen curse. While items directly connected to them do not say anything on the matter, the concept of people being persecuted and hounded for various “defects” is described in the Scale, Feather and Knot Crucible Talismans. Said Crucible is described in the Crucible Tree and Axe sets as the “primordial form of the Erdtree” and, apparently, source of all life. Maybe the omen curse is the remnant of it, like the budding horn and the old fang are described to be?
good point, morgott and margitt even share the same tail as the crucible knights holy attack swing.
The reason why Gideon called it the most apalling battle in the shattering is because Rykard ate everything in his vicinity after the contract with the devil
I kinda feel bad for Morgott
I originally cast the word 'Omen' to mean in the actual meaning of the word, a prophecy of sorts, more often used in a negative sense. Margit was an ill omen of Morgott to anyone daring to challenge his authority.
good job
The one I've been waiting for 👍
what's the lore on those giant arrow type things that litter the battlegrounds? in the cutscenes they seem to spew out some kind of "smoke". who or what fires them too, the giant golems archers arrows seem to be much smaller.
Whats the armor your wearing?