The Collapse of Sam & Cat
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Join Quinton Reviews for the final part of his NSU mini-series, which started with iCarly and Victorious, and now comes crashing down with the finale of Sam & Cat.
0:00 Intro
8:35 Season 1, Episodes 26-30
1:31:46 #Crimes
1:36:12 Pinboard Segment: The Ships in #TheKillerTunaJump
2:03:48 Pinboard Segment: That Time Billiam Got Hacked
2:08:45 Pinboard Segment: Sam & Cat’s First Legacy Character
2:39:02 Intromission: The Lil’ Sam & Cat Show 2
2:49:18 Intermission: Swindle
3:46:38 Season 1, Episodes 31-34, and the Final #Crimes
4:44:00 Legacy, Downfall, and What Happened to the NSU
5:01:30 The Lost Episodes
5:07:49 Sam & Cat’s Legacy in the NSU
5:18:04 Pinboard Segment: Goomer
6:50:33 Jennette McCurdy
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Nickelodeon allowing Ariana to miss filming days while forcing Jennette to work right after her MOTHER died is still one of the most infuriating things I have ever read. So not only does Jennette not get the solo show she was promised, but she also has to grin and bear it when her co-star can just blow off work whenever because she's got other projects. And then they have the audacity to try and make her take hush money after throwing her under the bus?
I hope she laughed in their faces when she said no. And I hope her book sales made TRIPLE what they offered.
Apparently it's sold over 2 million copies. From a quick google, a self-published author generally makes between 40-60% royalties and traditionally published authors make between 10%-20%. Looks like hardcover sells for between $20-28, Kindle sells for $15-28, and audio book is $13.50. So from anywhere between 27 mil to 56 mil in sales, she'd theoretically get between $2.7 mil to 11.2 mil.
So... MUCH more than they offered her, to say nothing of moral justness and peace of mind.
I bought her book in audio (she narrates it and its a fucking heartwrenching yet hilarious reading of it) but im literally going to buy a physical copy because i like it so much. don't worry, she's gonna make money and be comfortable the rest of her life i hope.
As someone from the book industry, she was likely offered millions in advance and probably is going ro make royalties for a long time. Especially if you consider that translation copies internationally are coming out still, and may sell through 2030. She definitely made that back triple
I think she also said she was getting movie offers n they were telling her no but letting Ariana miss half a season on tour. That’s so foul.
@@fulcafcoffeehow do you get royalties on a book?
The idea of a teenage girl from California with a weird abusive relationship with her mother singing a country song about moving to California and missing her mother is so tragic and surreal it’s almost poetic
When she put the picture of her mom on the fridge in the video i was like oh good lord...
Her book was a real trip, too 😢
The stuff in icarly with Sam’s mom that Jeanette had to go through (with her actual dangerously abusive mother watching her act) sounds like a level of hell
my mom is a morning show host on a country radio station. jennette did a private performance at the studio and she played this song. i got to meet her that day. looking back at the photo of us... makes me feel sick. it's blatantly obvious now that she was so unhappy. she tried hard to relate with every kid there and give them a special moment even in her time of pain. i deeply respect her.
It's almost like if you made this as a movie from scratch with this plot, it would HAVE to be a dark comedy, if that makes sense. Because the surrealness of just how insane and all over the place these events are feel like they only make sense in that really fucked up context of hyper juxtaposed irony about absurdly dark subjectmatter.
I don't know how you could even remotely write a scene where a man watches a Christian movie and just suddenly realizes he's Jesus in any other way than having it be played off as a really fucked up bit of dark satire, everything about this is just unreal! Like you couldn't play this shit straight without being called out for making something way too on the nose for the project.
That clip of Jennette playing the character that thinks the toys want to kill her is truly shocking. She performs the role so convincingly that it’s hard to imagine it came any other situation than the abuse she faced at home. I was glad to hear in her podcast that she’s really healthy and seems to be in really good spirits these days carving her own path. I hope that she continues on that path and has all the support and love she needs from those who are close to her. We really can’t take that love & support for granted, it’s not always easy to find it as a child or even as an adult.
The venn diagram of “people who were preteens during 2013 and might have watched Sam & Cat” and “people who were obsessed with the original Silence of the Lambs film for the entirety of 2013” has one person in it and that was me. That episode was made for me and me only and I didn’t know about it until just now
Okay but I became obsessed with The Silence of the Lambs (1991) in 2015 and I only became aware of Sam and Cat that same year when a friend put it on as a joke for us to play a drinking game with so. Maybe the venn diagram isn’t so small?
It's nice that I'm Glad My Mom Died is very obviously gonna have more cultural impact than the iCarly revival.
Good for Jennette.
Exactly. The revival is already cancelled and with how streaming has been going lately it will probably get deleted off the platform at some point.
@@Wabajck you’re acting as tho it’s a good thing lol.
@@Wabajckweird to be rooting for ppl yall claim to care ab losing jobs ❤
@@Tw0Dotsgrow up
@@Tw0Dotsthe revival was kind of bad tbh, nobody talked about it until Freddie and Carly got together 💀💀
Season 2 went completely under the radar. I’d rather forget about it.
There's something kind of bittersweet about knowing Miranda and Jeanette were actually really good friends during iCarly, and that Miranda was one of her first, best, and longest friendships despite them growing apart.
And near the end they're still really close. Sure they disagreed on the iCarly reboot, but Miranda understood why she didn't wanna do it and they left it there. It's nice to see a genuinely good person in Jenettes life
honestly having watched all of this with no attachment to or nostalgia for these shows, and this being my only window into them: thank christ that the overall destructive influence of this environment missed one sweet thing, and gave jeannette a lifeline
like if their adult friendship didn't hold in the same way, that's a bummer, but she has tools to handle that now- i was waiting for some shoe of profound heartbreak or cruelty to drop with that, the first nice thing that ever happened (in the narrative, anyway) and it's a genuine relief that it didn't
and it sounds like they only really grew apart in the sense that they don't talk as often anymore and that's not so weird when we get older anyway. It sounds like their talks aren't as often but they are just as strong as before.
That's nice to know
Jennette talks about it in her book it is really sweet
I feel like the way the reboot handles Sam’s absence is really heartfelt and mature. Basically Carly and Freddie wax poetic about how Sam is tough and can handle anything the world throws at her. It almost feels like they’re talking directly to Jennette when they say it. Like they’re saying “If what happened to you happened to us, I doubt we would’ve made it through.”
Miranda promising that her and Jennette would be paid the same salary... while the rumor was that Sam and Cat ended because of a salary difference... oh my poor heart I'm crying
I thought that part of the book was implying that both girls knew Jennette was paid less than Miranda during iCarly but couldn't do anything about that honestly... didn't make that connection till now
Quinton, for the record, that Mitch joke is brilliant and your right to remember it.
Lmao truly. I laughed out loud.
It’s so perfectly high school. Truly proof that restrictions breed creativity
As a man named Mitchell, I have heard the joke too many times for it to be funny
@@WrathfulEelcan it, Mitch!
the tape with his name on his shirt really sells it imo
I'm sorry but Michael D. Cohen being a trans man and having multiple characters on his main TV show shout in his face that he isn't a woman is the cutest shit I've ever seen in my life.
And the bit where his coworkers express shock at him being Canadian was also adorable.
@@dinosaysrawr Henry Danger cast treats each other way better then Sam and Cat cast.
It’s genuinely one of the most surprisingly wholesome things I’ve ever heard about a Nickelodeon show
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@@skylerloggins4902isnt Jeanette & etc’s fault
Massive respect to Goomer’s actor Zoran for being the one to get her out of there during the panic attack.
When Quinton got to this part, I yelled, "GOOMER IS THE BEST!"
Goomer's actor is a real one for that, holy shit
Now I love goomer!
I need to get off Twitter cause I immediately read that as "groomer" and I was so fucking confused
He seems like such a cool dude but i'll always think of a DND villain whenever I hear his name.
....a good villain atleast.
I can’t lie the bit from kid danger where he gasped and said “gibby!! What would iCarly say??” Got a good genuine laugh out of me
Sometimes the internet works in beautiful ways. Sometimes, a man complains about the wiki for a children's sitcom slacking in its coverage of a minor character and the wiki produces a page on that character seemingly overnight.
I'll never understand why the show concept wasn't about Cat performing at a restaurant that Sam runs. It's so simple. Cat sings, Sam loves food and is entrepreneurial. They could do so much with that premise, the restaurant would be a better set than the condo, and it would explain these opposite characters spending so much time together. Also, Ariana would be SINGING which would bring in a lot of viewers.
Imagine Cat is one of many recurring talents that performs on stage at the restaurant. Dice could be the shady busboy that Sam hired because he reminded her of her younger self. Goomer could be the talent of a fighting match they hold at the restaurant every Friday. The performers could all be crazy characters, the food they serve could be in the wacky theme of what's performing that night, etc. Singing Saturdays, Fighting Fridays, Weirdo Wednesdays, Magic Mondays, etc. Dice could perform on Magic Mondays since he's a magician.
I am making this up on the spot while sitting alone on a couch. Why couldn't the writing staff do better?
I don't know about that, I get the impression that Ariana didn't want to associate her music with Nickelodeon when her career was taking off. Also, even though Sam likes food, I don't think she can cook and she's also not very good at organizing things. I think the ideal way to pair them up would be to give them their own in-universe sit-com. One of these girls is fresh off being the co-host of a mega popular kid's web show, the other is an actress at a preforming arts school, and that premise would stay true to the shows sensibilities of referencing old sit-coms and sit-com culture.
There's no way they could afford Ariana singing, even then.
@@allyssaswain2394but isn’t that kind of subversion of expectation the root of comedy? Like how Charlie from Always Sunny manages to get the bar to pass the health inspection or how Michael Scott has a “Worlds Best Boss” mug despite him being a terrible manager? In fact I can’t think of any work place based sit com where the main cast are actually good at their jobs?
Nah you don’t understand, only Victoria Justice is allowed to sing 😤😤
You weren’t kidding about child Jeanette’s acting. Her screaming and panicking is too real to be coming out of a child actor
yeah i was not expecting to be moved by a random clip from lifetime- absolutely no wonder that she doesn't have good associations with acting, like the foundational method she had was to cause herself pain
@@thomasstone3480 Hell, even the *”GIVE ME BACK MY DICE!!!”* scene I mentioned earlier was unsettlingly emotional.
@@thomasstone3480 Exactly, associating a thing or activity with negative feelings or stimuli will make the person avoid it or stop doing it as soon as possible if it can't be avoided.
As a kid who learned acting as a form of survival, yeah, there are a lot of things kids can’t lie about and “wow that’s so good” isn’t exactly what they need to hear. It’s more like “holy shit are you okay”
Hearing from the people you lie to, “you’re a terrible liar :)” when they haven’t caught you out once is surreal. Like I am so powerful but at what cost. Bro I was not supposed to be a goated liar i was twelve year old
She specifically talks about how she acted like that in her book, would highly recommend. It was acting (and her speciality if I remember correctly) but no not good for her at all.
The part where Jennette got nothing but angry emails from her mom while she was on vacation, telling her all those mean nasty things, horrible labels/insults, guilt tripping, and ending it with "please send me money, our refrigerator broke" was the ultimate relatable moment for me. My mom would often use the same tactics, and then expect me to do a nice thing for her as if beating me down and telling me how horrible I am makes me want to help her just because she asked and thinks everything she just said was negated.
shit, I'm sorry, I didn't know parents like yours and jannette's were that common
That part of the book was relatable for me as well. There are moms who shame so hard that when you try to defend yourself, they just don’t believe you. It is frustrating to have a parent like that and it’s even more unfortunate when it’s your mom
@@Geelzebub The amount of times where I've been reasonably upset/concerned over something, only to be berated and shamed for having an opinion or feeling the way I did was insane. Especially when it came to serious personal boundaries.
Quinton has a talent for describing episodes of children’s sitcoms in a way that makes them sound like the plots of Always Sunny episodes. I love it.
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@@Honey_Daddyhe’ll just Listen to it
It’s not like he’s texting
This may sound kinda mean towards Ari, but after learning about everything Jennette McCurdy’s gone through, the final episode of Sam and Cat (even if it wasn’t intended to be the finale) is actually wonderful
Sam getting her moment in the sun away from Cat, getting to live in a nice apartment with a maternal figure who seems to genially care about her, and who makes her home cooked meals, does acts of service for her, and helps bail her out of trouble is actually really really nice
For real... I imagine a less horrible show could've pulled something heartwarming out of that dynamic. Like, Sam obviously has deep rooted issues with maternal figures and in general can't really manage her own life. As a kid, I also always assumed her food addiction stemmed from the food insecurity she suffered throughout her childhood.
Now just imagine how a nicer show with non-asshole writers would've handled the premise of this episode: Cat is out of town, and a distrusting Sam learns to live with Nonna. She's sceptic initially but quickly learns to trust her, as Nonna teaches her how A LOVING, RESPONSIBLE ADULT SHOULD TREAT HER. So much so, that when Cat calls because she needs help getting out of jail or whatever, Sam lies to Nonna to keep her to herself. Of course she can't keep the lie up for very long, and when Nonna scolds her for lying about Cat BEING IN JAIL, Sam breaks down crying. She confides that she's never felt as safe and loved as she did in the last few days with Nonna. She's scared Nonna won't care for her anymore once Cat is back, because Nonna is Cats grandma, not Sams. Nonna hugs her and assures her she'll always be there for Sam, whether they live together or not. *audience awwwws* "But we'll still need to bust Cat out of jail first." *audience laughs*
So they bust Cat out of jail or something, and Cat is surprised how well Sam and Nonna get along. ("I thought you hated Nonna!" "well, that was before I learned about her secret pasta recipe." *audience laughs*) In episodes from then on, we sometimes see Sam and Nonna hanging out. Like, exposition shot of them standing in the living room and Nonna teaching Sam how to use a washing machine or something like that.
Can you imagine how heartwarming it would've been to write a show like that? It still would've been cheesy and stupid, but at least it would've been wholesome instead of hateful and bitter. It took me like 5 minutes to think of this plot. Why tf didn't the writers put any effort in?
@@thevibewitch7414my goodness this pitch is better than anything these writers did in that entire show.
I really hope people don't treat Ariana bad over this, though. I mean, she didn't know what she was doing, she was just excited for all these big crazy opportunities she was getting and wanted to share her fun stories with her coworkers. I genuinely don't think she even realized just how much she was throwing Jennet's own legitimate insecurities back at her and how that made her feel.
@@thevibewitch7414 Yeah, that's the whole thing, right? For a good story that cares about its characters, that situation is the big starting point of the plot that acts as the inciting incident for an emotional character episode.
For Sam and Cat, it's just a really weird joke they end the series on because the writers think being apathetically shitty is peak comedy and not a moment of genuine character assassination.
@@dracocrusher I like how Quinton put it. It's not a crime to dislike someone, and it's not a crime to be disliked. Janette and Ariana's lives were going in opposite directions, anyone in that situation would be upset.
First half: hehe sam and cat mischief
Midway through: entire plot summary of the swindle movie by nickelodeon
Final half: dark retelling of a real life story about assault, trauma and abuse
Yeah it's a whiplash a nessacray one but yeah it was a fucking a whiplash
As someone in the Swindle part of the video... not ready for the final part even though I am familiar with Jeanette's life.
@@maddiemcnugget1076 i read the book previously to watching this so i was already familiar with all the gorey details, though having it recapped put it into perspective
Fun fact for the comment section: apparently Zoran Korach really is his name (Goomer’s actor). He’s of Serbian descent and he speaks Serbo-Croatian. He plays a lot of Eastern European characters. My guy has played someone named Vladimir/Vlad on like three separate occasions.
I can totally see the start of his career being the "intimidating bouncer" character. I wouldn't be surprised if he was actually in Swindle as one of the body guards.
the part where you’re saying everyone who’s ever given her a nickname has had a negative impact on her life, followed by tacking on “and you call her sam” is so… absolutely well delivered. I can’t even like, articulate how much that hit in that moment.
It really, really makes you hate Nickelodeon. This is just...monstrous. And they just...throw her under the bus. After YEARS of abuse. Im disgusted.
What makes things even sadder is Jennete's music when she was on Icarly also implied something was going on (Homeless heart and Heart of a Child).
It's not like The Creator being a horrible garbage person was an open secret or something. Oh wait...it was. Everyone knows that.
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Jennette McCurdy and her abusive mom is definitely a good example for the quote "Every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child"
Never could I have imagined I'd want to write a Goomer/Frankini fanfic solely based on the information that has been provided via this video.
I’d read it in a heartbeat! Please making it about them having a redemption and living happily together as an influencer couple!
@@neb.9489 I would also read this fix-it fic. If someone wrote it, where do I find it?
I don't want them to have redemption I want them to be worse 😔
@@lowpolyzoetoxic yaoi
The blooper episode celebrating their oldest main cast member's long career is actually kinda sweet. Older actors (especially actresses) tend to lose a lot of prestige, so having her be the one that the kids are most excited to see for her long and successful career is cool.
They.
@@eatatjoes6751 insert venom's they/them because we are two guys joke in here
@@eliasmg9144 "WE are Venom!"
Yeah, that's actually a nice moment
I found it kind of odd that Quinton made fun of that because it felt like a genuine appreciation of older sitcom work. There's a lot in that episode that really, really sucks in hindsight but that bit seems cute.
I can only hope Jeanette never has to face horrors like she did again. No child deserves what she went through
I really hope her life ever since the end of what's chronicled in the book has been so boring and peaceful. She has had more drama than any human being should have in a whole lifetime already.
Sadly, known from experiences my best friend had and has, as soon as she has peace and time to heal it will get get much harder as healing is painful and she is no longer in survival mode. I hope she now has a support system and takes whatever help/ therapy she needs ♥️
@@JH-cn1un She is/was definitely in therapy she discusses it in the book. They were focused on her eating disorder obviously but they did work on unpacking ... Everything else.
Having read her book, she HAS made a ton of progress with her health since her Nickelodeon days. I’m obviously not privy to more details, but based on what she wrote, she has a much healthier relationship with food and is doing work she actually feels good about.
I'd listed to the audio book of Jennette's book before watching this review, and one point Quinton made really stood out to me that I didn't fully digest while hearing the story -- that every point described about what was going on in Jennette's childhood was happening all at once, the multiple different kinds of abuse on top of being sheltered from society in a bubble with just her mother so she thought their dynamic was normal. Re-framing that with the context that everything was happening simultaneously was so much to swallow. What a resilient person and a wonderful writer.
I literally cannot recommend "I'm Glad My Mom Died" enough. The best autobiography (or biography) I've ever read. Thank you for the mini book club, as I just listened to the audio book and nobody else I know has read or listened to it!
Noah Munck having a negative relationship with the icarly franchise is the least surprising thing ever. I mean idk if my self esteem could handle being a bit character where part of the joke was my appearance
I have no idea how adult actors handle that sort of thing, never mind kids!
He said he used to get harassed on the street and told to take his shirt off in public. That’s so mortifying.
Eeee
I had friends who went to high school with him. By their account he was a really nice and cool guy but would flip if you called him Gibby or treated him like the character. Not really surprising at all even back then. I never got a chance to hang out with him though.
I think about stuff like this literally all the time. What does it feel like to be the actor for a character who's meant to be gross or ugly or fat or whatever. I can't imagine what that feels like for an adult, much less a child who has to deal with the fact that real people he knows in real life have seen him be made fun of for being a fat shirtless kid on TV
I think the “Did you guys hear that they’re making a Five Nights and Freddy’s movie?” joke is actually better since the video came out after the movie. If Quinton hadn’t talked about the dated references being a result of the video coming out later than intended I wouldn’t have thought twice about it. It being outdated and just coming out of nowhere the way it did is very funny
honestly, dedication to finish such a long thing makes this joke so ironic, because that movie was also in the works for very long, almost like the pun is doubled
Something funny is that when you mentioned that thing about Sam and Jade being "The same character", is that both of them had the same Voice Actress in the Latin American Dub.
Did they make a Latin American Dub for Sam and Cat?
@@rimfire8217 Yes, usually when dubbing yo Spanish they make 2 Dubs one for Spain and one for Latin America
Hispanic American Dub, in Brazil it was different VAs
So when they met in Sam and Cat it was just one chick talking to herself?
Hot take, I actually kind of love Goomer as a representation of intellectual and developmental disability. Goomer is extremely charismatic, kind, funny, and has a job, friends, independence, and an all around fulfilling life. I think we are laughing with Goomer, someone who is aware of his disability, but has friends who love him for his charming personality and many unique strengths and knowledge that makes Goomer Goomer. He does not have to have traditional smarts or social skills to be a valuable friend to our main cast, and nearly anyone he meets. When Goomer sleeps over with Sam and Cat, Cat is immediately goes to comfort a now semi-verbal Goomer. She talks him through his feelings, and helps him find coping skills to handle a very real feeling of abandonment a lot of people with IDD (Or anyone) can feel when loved ones are far away, or they feel abandoned. Goomer’s most positive traits remind me of all my favorite things about a lot of the people I have known with IDD. I think they would defiantly mess up a acknowledged portrayal of IDD, but when provided as subtext, it feels like the show is telling you that that person who has all these nurodiverse traits as a valuable member of this group, to the point he is called a main character,I feel like it tells kids to actually get to know that “weird” kid in their class. This idea that multiple types of inelegance can work together to pull off impossible things is refreshingly positive for this universe.
And while the ending of the episode with his mom isn’t great in this context, I think its close to something meaningful. In the end, despite all of his mom’s doubts and fears that Goomer would get hurt in fighting, or couldn’t handle living far from home without her are proven wrong as Goomer shows himself to be a strong and independent adult. Just a little bit of tweaking, and it matches a real struggle a lot of families with IDD children have. In this framing, his mom is aware of his diagnosises, and probably spent a lot of her time helping him as he grew up, likely thinking he would never grow to be independent. Then she finds him, across the country having made a life for himself, and surrounded by people who love him just as he is. She can focus on herself again, knowing her little boy really is all grown up.
The fact that Jenette is so damn natural in playing and traumatized kids should be ringing alarm bells on day one. She was a literal child and her mom bombards her with faux and real trauma just to vicariously live her dreams through her is disgusting. Also yea Debra is a massive reason why Jenette couldnt get roles early on. Directors actually do watch out for overly controlling stage parents when trying to get child actors. Because reasonably, you dont want to deal with so many damn stressful and entitled people while shooting.
Yes! It makes one wish someone, anyone had paid closer attention and saw all of these things for the red flags they were.
She sucks and is bitter
@@dinosaysrawr What makes you think they didn't notice
Jenette is not alone a lot of very talented child actors lost and continue to lose jobs because their parents are nightmares to deal with.
@@subaru4920 , yeah, you're right---people may have noticed or suspected, but it was in their interest to look the other way or dismiss it and keep chugging full steam ahead. One wonders how many people in the industry also become desensitized to these kinds of red flags over time because they get exposed to so many wacky stage parents.
So, there was an episode of Sesame Street in 1985 where the adults were finally able to see the character Mr. Snuffleupagus, he had originally been an imaginary friend of sorts, the adults couldn’t see him and Big Bird would blame him for things Mr. Snuffleupagus would actually do and the adults wouldn’t believe Big Bird. The reasoning for finally letting the adults see him was partly due to a series of high profile stories about pedophila covered on 60 minutes. A main theme among those stories was fear the children held of adults in charge not believing their stories of abuse. The Crew understood the responsibility they had to children and their safety and how their show feeds into that they knew they were an example. So they made Mr. Snuffleupagus visible, and had all of the adult neighbors of Sesame Street apologize for not believing Big Bird and promise to always take him seriously.
I know that Sesame Street is a preschool age show, but I can’t help but feel very strongly that philosophies like that need to be brought into all content for developing minds. The fact that body checks, a commonly used form of molestation and robbing a child of agency, was used as a joke. Themes of pure child abuse being showcased to an audience of children as a silly joke “aha it’s so funny that Freddy’s mom ignores his bodily autonomy and molests him 2 times a week, that’s so weird ahaha” that’s beyond a CPS call.
I just feel like Nickelodeon has a responsibility to children, just like Sesame Street knows they have, and they completely fail children by including things like this, whether they are funny to the child at the time or not.
I love Sesame Street. They actually change with the times to tackle new subjects that are important for kids and parents and it’s absolutely lovely.
The fact that it was done on a kid's show is the disturbing bit. They wrote it to tell 8 year olds to laugh at that
Point of order: Snuffy wasn’t imaginary. He was just shy and always ran away before the adults could see him. The only reason they finally got to see him was Elmo held his trunk so he couldn’t run away.
What’s even more disturbing is if you’ve read I’m Glad My Mom Died, you know none other then Jannette herself actually suffered that exact abuse from her own mother. They were making light of an abuse that one of their main cast members was actually enduring. Given all the other traumatic shit she was going through that the writers turned into gags, it’s entirely possible they knew and did it on purpose. Disgusting.
Victorious was the worst about this stuff, I even found it a little disturbing at times 💀
A guy who doesn't like musicals being spotlighted in a show that, at one point, starred an actor who was in a musical about a guy who doesn't like musicals has got to be the most inception inducing part of the NSU
(if this isn't a Starkid reference ignore this) ALSO, Angela, who plays Grace Chastity and Lex in NPMD and Black Friday, appeared on Henry Danger for an episode, so Henry Danger has links to Hatchetfield lmao.
(If you dont know wtf im on, go watch The Guy Who DIdn't Like Musicals, its a great show)
NO WAY I didn't even know abt that why is Starkid in Henry Danger sm 😭@@DarthHamster12
@sweetstxr idk
@@DarthHamster12THEY DID?!?!
@@domino6239 Yeah!, if you watch the smosh guess who with Quinton, they mention it
what I learned from this 9 hour video is that Goomer is a gay icon
I can never get over Jennette's mom typing that email after the TMZ photos and then having the NERVE to say "P.S. send money for a new fridge"
Right? It made me put the book down when i read that. I literally had to take a walk to get over it
I don't know how she made it through everything. I don't know what I would do, but I feel like my psyche would fracture. On some level I know you get used to situations, but it was too much and too frequent. She's remarkably strong to have gotten through it. I'm glad she's able to tell these stories, because things have to change when it comes to raising children. Parents get away with too much, and so do production studios. Like Jeanette's grand father mentioned, she deserved time to actually be a kid.
@@DemonLordSparda "I feel like my psyche would fracture" is exactly what it feels like. When my parents did similar things to me, it felt like my brain was breaking in half and I was going insane.
I got one rule "If I'm not your kid then you can get your own fridge."
Narcissism is a hell of a drug
The part of the biography where Jeanette is just at the absolute lowest point possibly in her entire life and her boyfriend comes in and goes "SO I WATCHED GOD'S NOT DEAD AND-" is so comedically dark you'd think this woman's life was written by fucking Kafka.
Immediately I was like, “Huh.” as soon as the audiobook said it, because I couldn’t believe *that* drove him to Christhood.
I want to add an aside to this and say that I feel so legitimately bad for Steven. Living with undiagnosed schizophrenia has to have been a nightmare all of its own, and the fact that after his treatment he decided he would rather be a vegetable than conscious and aware of his own existence is a tragedy I've seen in multiple friends of my own who struggled with mental illness. It retroactively makes both my comment and certain passages in the book kind of uncomfortable to read through because it feels like it treats his illness like a punchline.
I hope he got help like Jennette did. I truly hope he's okay.
This is the best comment, just fyi.
@wilnich592 Nah you're fine, it's funny without being mean.
And then like a couple months later he goes "i think I'm Jesus Christ" lmfao.
As I'm seeing that Miranda has kept this friendship with Jeannette for the most part even at this time when there was a gap, my hearts warms up, she was basically there the half of her life, she was the light and escape when she was at the show and this proves much
1 video.
0 complaints about time length.
9 1/2 hours.
1,900,000 views.
The math says that you've consumed 2,000 years of viewers life with this single video.
That's biblical, powerful, really neat.
Great job.
That's nearly 2,500 years today
I’ve read I’m Glad My Mom Died but Jesus watching that footage of her as a young girl being traumatized in these roles broke my heart all over again
What is trauma?
@@TimmyTheTinman from the Oxford dictionary: A disordered psychic or behavioral state resulting from severe mental or emotional stress or physical injury.
Or an emotional upset
After hours and hours of Quinton specifically avoiding him, finally hearing the name ‘Schneider’ hits like a goddamn jump scare
i seriously got goosebumps and not the good kind
@@wonderstorms4030is because Quinton is on the same level of him? How does someone post an hours long video of a children’s show and not get accused of something?
@@Daftanemone??? What the fuck are you talking about? He’s doing analysis of an entire show, and talking about supplementary material. Have you been looking at the thumbnail and video length and that’s it?
@@Daftanemone Are you mentally okay?
@@Daftanemoneinsane fucking accusation
"Fred: The Show" has a poor reputation exclusively with those who haven't watched it, and thus don't understand that it secretly has all of the qualities of a cult classic.
thank you
I cant believe there are still fred haters out here in 2024 smh
I think a good theory for the Goomer situation is that, in the last episode we see him he's working as the bodyguard of a celebrity right?
We know that Frankini is a famous influencer so maybe, after all the Del DeVil thing happened, Goomer ended up feeling awful for doing a bad job with the singer, and Cat (possibly in an effort to make him stop being sadr) tells him he could get another chance at the job with her brother, who just so happens to be looking for a bodyguard/lackey. Goomer accepts, the two meet, fall in love and become partners in crime, having a brief moment of doubt where Goomer tries to make Frankini jealous but eventually coming back together to keep at it.
The Schneider's Bakery namedrop after avoiding saying his name all throughout the whole series was so, so good. Masterful display of holding back for the greatest effect.
frr, i completely forgot about the bakery one, i only remembered danwrp or whatever his twitter handle was
My interpretation of Neville's dinner with Gibby is that in the mental institution he realized that he was a severely repressed homosexual and was just really thirsting for the Gibster.
More NBC Hannibal than Silence of the Lambs
Neville is a gay closeted man in my opinion
Who doesn't thirst for the Gibster???
If I learned anything from my time on Tumblr; both are true
I mean, fair.
Jennette’s story is horrifying…the only consolation is that she is finally in a much better place now, and she’s finally getting to write, which is clearly her favorite creative outlet. I’m genuinely and a little selfishly really excited about her next book
The moment I heard the part about Jennette "hearing the Holy Ghost" feeling like she had to do random things a certain number of times, I instantly caught that it was OCD. I've struggled most of my life with it, and a significant portion of it has involved spiritual OCD, despite the fact that I became nonspiritual right before it started. It seems so silly, but it ruins lives.
Props to Quinton, for spending the past 3 years suffering for our entertainment
Yeah
He's sacrificing his sanity for our sins, Quinton is the new savior of humanity
Nah, he loves this stuff
Martyr for the cause.
Pathetic shrine to Dan Schneider
The fact that they wouldn't even let Jennette direct an episode when she's obviously very talented and would probably be a huge asset is frankly embarrassing. This whole thing is embarrassing for Nickelodeon and the industry as a whole. Maybe she'd be bad at it, but it's literally Sam & Cat, a show no one liked working for. The worst that could happen is the episode was sub par, but at best they could get Jennette McCurdy, a very talented actor and writer with years of experience in Nick, as a creative within the company. It's just silly not to do it and goes to show that whatever producer or writer stopped her from switching to being a creative was petty and afraid of being proven to be worse at their job than a child star. Sorry for the rant, this isn't the worst thing that has happened to her but the fact that it was so petty... Plenty of other shows let the lead actors sometimes direct episodes it's not even new!!! It's like a common courtesy you can do as a thank you to the actor that dedicated so long to your show. It's just embarrassing. Whoever it was.
Gender bias and horrid treatment from institutions will do that to you. Jennette deserved far better than this treatment.
I have to wonder who demanded that Jennette not Direct, Arianna or The Creator? I can't think of a third person who'd want to and could possibly stop her.
the book suggests very strongly it was Ariana who blocked her from directing, from my reading
@@nopegregggalaI got that vibe too. I know Q tried to be diplomatic about it but when I read it I immediately showed the passage to my friend and she was like “oh that had to be Ari” like I just cannot imagine the studio giving a shit about anyone threatening to quit besides her. They moved the entire show around and fucked over Jennette because of her.
8:34:38 I also think what’s important to add is Jenette even reflects on her resentment towards Ariana and how that resentment doesn’t actually have anything to do with her as a person. I think both of these women know this and I think years later they both have an understanding of the situation.
thank you for that trigger warning and reassuring people they are allowed to stop watching if they are not comfortable with it. i found myself at times extremely upset reading Jennette's sexual assault stories. i had to step away and come back to the book, i was filled with so much anger how these men took advantage of her. i will watch it regardless bc i did really enjoy the book, i do also care a lot for jennette. you are a very kind and understanding person quinton and i feel safe watching your videos.
listening to jenette's crying on command is probably the hardest part of this video thus far. it's so genuine, and that's not because she was a good actress, it's because she was so distressed in the moment.
That is where i stopped for the night and just said no.
It's like... not to diss her talent as an actress, but in those moments you really do have to take a step back and realize SHE'S NOT ACTING. I mean, technically she is, but these are real emotions coming out that were being bottled up and it's all for the purpose of her being exploited for people around her.
She's NOT acting, this is just how she feels in this fucked up situation basically ALL THE TIME, and it only gets worse from there!
I had to skip those parts, it just felt so awful to sit through. You can hear the genuine pain in her voice
You're right, that's not acting, it's almost like her mother sent her to the set when she was actually crying and no one was bothered
Have you read her book? (sorry if this is covered later in the video) One of the larger reasons she got gigs in acting when she was younger was supposedly because she could cry on cue. She'd think of sad things happening to her family members to make herself cry. Crying on cue was like a golden goose for child actors.
man watching jenette's more intense acting scenes as a child made me start crying, its honestly kind of scary how no one on set asked if something was wrong, especially if she looked sad literally all the time
And that is what makes me feel extremely uneasy about kids on TV nowadays. Like, every single time I hear anyone praise a child actor for a powerful performance, I think to myself where do these emotions come from? Can there EVER be a child actor who is a happy kid? And even if it's 50-50, why are we allowing this to happen at all?
@@melanie_kay_6014 Honestly, at this point, I just don't think having kids on TV is worth it. I don't care if the movie is good. I don't care if the show is funny. I just don't think that it's safe to put kids in the entertainment industry like this. Jeanette's case is tragic, but it's far from exclusive; think of all the child stars who later came out and gave similar stories, or who clearly showed signs of being abused or exploited in the past. And these are only the people who speak up. Think of how many kids are in entertainment; think of how many kids are in similar hells. Even if they have good parents and are genuinely passionate about acting, they should be in a theatre class performing a cheesy rendition of 'Grease', not on a production set where they're at the mercy of hundreds of adults who have power over them.
I always felt uneasy about it, but especially after analyzing all the shit the Nickelodeon kids went through, I just can't feel like it's justified anymore. Like you said; why are we allowing this to happen at all? We have plenty of stories we can tell that don't involve having a kid on set being exploited and abused. Hell, people have been getting adults to play teens forever, and adults voice kids in animations 90% of the time. We don't need to actually put real kids in danger. The entertainment industry is just so inherently dangerous to kids, and my heart goes out to all of them.
Sorry, this is super rambly, but the video already had me emotional, and your comment just made me want to write a bit lol. All this to say I completely agree with you haha
Right? Kids really shouldn't be that raw. Watching it knowing what we know now it's clear that the poor girl was in immense, immense pain.
I'm almost sure in the book Jennette says that every now and again people would question why she looked so sad, but she would say everything was fine because she didn't know at that point that anything was wrong.
watching it made me want to outlaw child acting.
Never get tired of Quinton's words syncing with the actors' dialogue
3:06:43 the “math club” sign with the “a” written in just messy enough handwriting to pass as an “e” at first glance in the background of this scene really elevates the meth joke
The scenes Jeanette plays a meltdown for a child are so chilling and considering her story they’re genuinely hard to watch .
Right? This was the first time I’d seen them all (apart from her part on Malcom in the Middle, edit to add: she also had a part in an episode of the show Medium which was actually the first thing I ever saw her in and I didn’t know it was her at the time, and realising it years later, it blew my mind) and I got chills. I just wanna hug that poor girl.
I just got to those parts and had finished my makeup right before it. Now I am sobbing. I did not listen to Quentin about thinking about when to watch this part.
At first I thought watching this part would be unnecessary because I'd read the book, but damn actually seeing what she had to do is harrowing.
seriously, i know he warned us but they shook me so bad i had to put my phone away
Same. Makes it worse that people thought she was acting. SHE WASN'T that was real, those emotions are how Jeanette really felt around her mother growing up.
I think the part that had the most impact on me was the fact that someone didn't want Jennette to direct an episode of Sam and Cat. That just made me so so so DAMN angry. Like, WHY?? Did they feel threatened by her? And if it wasn't Dan Schneider, who threatened to quit that was so important?? Those creeps all stuck together to protect themselves, and Jennette was their scapegoat!
I wouldn't be surprised if it even came down to a money or pride thing? It looks like in general about four different men directed Sam & Cat. I assume if Jennette did one, that means one episode less salary (And residuals?) for the man that would have directed it.
It definitely wasn't Ariana, but damn she'd be an easy scapegoat.
easy, men hate women and value other men more.
I would be genuinely surprised if it wasn’t Dan. That’s right up the manipulative bullshit alley he paved.
We can all agree Dan Schneider is a piece of rubbish
Respect to Mr Korach, he seems like such a caring and kind man. One can only hope that Jennette and Zoran stayed in touch with each other, him helping her during a panic attack, trying to get her to a safer place. He seems like a total angel.
You also have handled the section about her with such grace and tact. The book really gives an insight as to what it was like for Jennette to deal with such a cruel mother that just treated her as a meal ticket, how there was so much disregard for her struggles, a mother (or any parent) should step in and help their child, get them the therapy and support they need and also let them discuss how they feel and comfort them if ever they feel sad or worried. Shame that her mother never did that.
Hearing someone say for the first time in my life you can't swap binge eating for anoxeria made me cry fr.
Something I'm realizing now: Jennette confirms the original pitch for her show was Sam counseling/mentoring kids/tweens. Then, Ariana was bundled up and it morphed to the show we know. However, Gibby's pilot had him becoming the leader/mentor to a group of kids/tweens. Did The Creator/Nick slapped Gibby's name onto "Just Puckett" and adjusted the script?
They already had the script ready but, when the show changed, they didn't want to throw it away so they got a new lead and changed to better fit the new lead
I can’t believe he didn’t throw this out there, I wonder if Quinton ever made the connection
@@averyemlIn the video, the premise of the original show is only mentioned once. My guess is that Jennette never really goes into more detail about it. Had that been the case, I'm sure Quinton would have looked more into it. However, since this is only mentioned as part of Jennette's list of ways she's been mistreated at Nick, it gets lost in the bigger picture.
"Just Pucket" potentially being turned into "Gibby" doesn't really affect the story being told. We already knew she was promised her own show and then got the rug pulled from under her feet.
This potential fact says more about the Gibby Pilot
@@averyeml he talked about it in the first sam and cat video (it’s been ages, I know) when he spent an hour covering the hobby pilot
It's also possible that the executives didn't think kids would enjoy a show focused on a school counselor, but a widely recognizable sitcom funny guy mentoring a bunch of 12 year olds might be a hit.
It’s interesting to me that she was taken away from the role of a teen counselor where through the script alone could have come to realize the truth of her abuse
It is so funny to think Miranda was cursing at age 14 a lot she always seemed so innocent as Carly but glad she was nice to Jennette that’s very fitting in character
Lol I couldn't help but think of that one interview clip where she said "I actually do cuss a little," and that her favorite word was "probably Fuck lmao,"
Its easier to imagine her cursing if you look back on her days on Drake and Josh. Definitely something Megan would do lol. Never something Carly would do, but Megan? Yeah
@@oliviacrigger4991 I was too young when that show was airing but from what I know yeah Megan was a lil shit
@@oliviacrigger4991agreed 😂
do you think that "skunkbag" entered miranda's vocabulary after that episode?
I can't believe Neville basically pulled a pg version of some Harvey Weinstein type shit and we were all just like "haha that's so wacky"
There’s a lot of jokes from these shows that are gross in retrospect. Like that guy Paul who keeps talking to Carly and she’s not interested. At the time I thought this was funny but years later I realized “wait he’s 30 and she’s 16”
It flew under the radar because in his first appearance Neville is like 12 years old
@@fugyfruit to me it doesn't matter bc adults still had to write that into the show.
"Fred the show" has a poor reputation exclusively with people who have never watched it, and thus don't understand it secretly has all the qualities of a cult classic.✊🏿
I like how over 30 hours of content later he's still calling this a 'Mini' series
It’s actually over 40 hours.
The man has aged at least twice
I guess technically it's a miniseries because it has a limited number of episodes?
He's got a good sense of humor I'd smoke a fat joint with him.
I've never seen him in the same place as Ken Burns, just saying
So Jennette McCurdy came to my university to promote her book and the event sold out instantly. However, only like 10 percent of the audience even read the book, so it was 4 hours of Jennette trying to not break down in front of her adoring fans, not knowing their questions were about the most traumatic moments in her life.
That’s horrible, I hope some people picked up the book after and she was able to recuperate after :(
I thought she explained this in one of her podcast episodes?
That's terrible, but if the event was to promote her book, wouldn't most of the audience not having read her book make sense? Especially as I imagine the event happened soon after the release. University students might not have had the time.
@@MythrilShotgundefinitely, but that doesn’t mean it hurt any less to have a book which you’re actively promoting at that moment being about that time being literal hell and all the questions being about that time as if it was great. no one at fault but still an awful situation
I just cringed out of my skin. I hope a lot of students and staff bought the book and read it cover to cover after that presentation.
For anyone worried they have an eating disorder (or one developing) not only is it never too late to get help it is never too early to get help
This bit on the Swindle movie is absolutely WILD for me for a few reasons. First, I was a big fan of the book and of pretty much everything else Gordon Korman wrote. I definitely referred to him as my favourite author when I was about 12. The stuff he wrote was tailor-made to appeal to kids, and it worked flawlessly. More than one scene from that book still lives in my head, like the villain using the USS Enterprise number as his keypad lock, and how he kept the card in a turkey in the freezer. I had no idea at all that they made Swindle into a movie.
SECOND, I did a massive double-take on the cast list for the movie - Fred Ewanuick (who plays Paul Swindell in this movie) plays local goof-off Hank Yarbo in beloved Canadian sitcom Corner Gas - it's absolutely bonkers to me that he appears in this Nickleodeon movie (although Gordon Korman is also Canadian, so maybe there's some connection there?)
Here it is. The end of an era. May Quinton finally rest in peace.
Unless he talks about the reboot. Especially since it just got cancelled and has a definitive end point now.
@@kylendsnider137I mean said reboot ended on a big cliffhanger but better shows have gone that way
True
You know he’s gonna post a 12 hour review of season 1 of Zoey 101 once he gets to a million subs right 😭
@@ArtMares91 that would be awesome ! One of my favorite Nicki sitcoms next to Drake and Josh/ICarly
Fred: The Show has a poor reputation exclusively with people who have never watched it and thus don't realize that it secretly has all the elements of a cult classic.
Wait is this a copypasta I've seen 3 different people say this just now lol
@@Xeroforte it's a true statement
@@Xeroforte it's a opinion, the only correct one
I agree. I mean this classic series has a line like "Im gonna get that cake, Fred". This show was obvioudly too genius for people with a normal brain to comprehend but only the few people with ADVANCED brains can understand the true amazingness of this show and its deep lore.
@@Xerofortehe says this somewhere in the video
I saw Jennette at Disneyland I didn't ask her for a picture or anything but I rode next to her on the tram you ride into the park from the parkinglot and when I said hi to her I could physically see her cringe thinking I was going to call her Sam but I didn't mention her fame I acted like I didn't know who she was and was just making small talk and she was really really sweet talking about how she wanted to be a writer and she was really excited about it. I think she was with Steven but I can't be sure
I feel like I learned more about Henry Danger and its subsequent serieses than I did Sam and Kat from these videos.
Echoing Quinton here, even if you watched the spoilers bit and are wondering if it's still worthwhile to read the book, it is. Quinton didn't at all diminish the way that Jeanette's writing gives you such a hard and immediate punch, both in just her reflections and descriptions, and in the batshit insane stuff she's sat through. It's worth the read: a hard read for sure, but she's really an incredible writer.
Listened to the audiobook and found Jennette McCurdy's narrations and voices very helpful when it came to immersing myself in her story and feeling her pain.
@@robinkholmes7127 The audiobook is heartbreaking, you can hear Jeanette struggling to read sometimes because she's overwhelmed by emotion, it's gut wrenching and immensely adds to an already fantastic book
I listened to the audio book back when it came out and I was sobbing by the end.
my best friend works at barnes and noble and she's told me about how she saw a little girl and her mom walking past jennette's book. the girl goes "is that sam from icarly?" and the mom goes "yes it is. but it's just a joke, she's not actually glad her mom died."
and i heard this story while i was reading the book and i was like. Um. You're both wrong
The hilarity and disparity of this ancedote appear to cancel each other out somehow 😕
Well... The book really shouldn't be read by kids. I wouldn't know what to say if I was that mother either.
@@robinkholmes7127I would probably say something like "She called her book that because it was difficult for her because her mom was a really mean person" or something. Kids are smarter than we give them credit for.
@@graysonrogers-barnes6302I would assume the mother hadn't actually read the book either
@robinkholmes7127 i respectfully strongly disagree. there is no one who would benefit more from hearing stories of survivors of abuse in childhood than children who might be going through abuse; who will recognize what's happening to them and make the connection that it's abuse, who will see their stories represented and realize they're not alone and that it's not normal, and who will hear this story of someone in their same position who got out of it and became a happy stable person despite it. i understand the book goes into very explicit, """adult""" topics, but...this kind of "adult" stuff happens to kids, it's happening to kids right now. to say that, for example, a child who is being sexually abused, right now, living through that in their day to day life, shouldn't read this book because it delves into themes of sexual abuse and that's inappropriate for them to know about, is frankly just insulting. restricting the types of media kids have access to is just another method of isolation to further abuse. just like quinton described when he talked about homeschooling; if an abused kid meets other kids, they might realize something's wrong about their own life. if an abused kid reads this book, they might, too.
sorry for the long reply i just have. very strong feelings about this.
I think u handled Jeanette’s story with so much care and grace. I’m sorry u tossed and turned for months thinking about how to do her story justice but I think you did a great job! So excited to see your next video!
quinton when the video went black and the tv started getting closer and the distortion of the music......holy shit you scared the f out of me people please tell me i was not the only one
Props to Jennette for being healthy and putting herself first today. I hope she continues to do so and never compromises her needs/wants for anyone ever again
100%. She deserves all the happiness in the world.
I love the way Jeanette only uses “The Creator” in the book. It’s a great way of illustrating the power dynamic between them.
She's basically giving him the Lord Voldemort treatment,she is not calling him by name but by his occupation as way to express her feelings about him( which are not very positive).He is essentially 'He who shall not be named'.
@@marychouvarda6875what's a voldomort
@@marychouvarda6875 it's likely so she wouldn't get sued on the grounds of "slander", but most people who pick up the book know who she's talking about whenever The Creator is brought up
@@angel2.077 Good point,I never thought of it.
@@marychouvarda6875 it's okay, I thought of that conclusion because they tried to give Jennette a ton of cash just to not talk about it, so who's to say they wouldn't go after a former child actress for exposing The Creator in her bestselling book.
As to why they would more specifically go to Jennette as opposed to the dozens of UA-camrs who covered Dan Schneider is because one is covering speculations from findings online, while the other would have a first hand account. I'm glad that the Quiet on Set documentary is out now, so more eyes are on Dan and other creepers who work on kids media
Yeah I'm with Jeannette on her views on therapy. Therapists are not trained to handle cases with parents like this, and they also apparently lack the life experience to not be shocked by the details - apparently, they get too shocked to actually help, or to come up with an action plan for the client that isn't just having the client vent to them, indefinitely, while they get their check.
It's easy to get exploited by therapists when you got family who constantly brings chaos to one's life. The therapist essentially gets paid to sit back and listen to a shitshow, while they occasionally offer basic words of wisdom and validation. It is by nature easy money for the therapist, if the therapist can convince the client that venting is the only way to heal.
Therapists in LA especially, do not understand the mechanics of misogyny and consent either. If you are an attractive woman, you can count on being blamed or at the very least doubted by the therapist in such cases. It really shed some light for me on how we get so many me too cases coming out of LA
A lot of therapists kind of let patients take the lead nowadays I find, the first time I went wasn't great for me because I was basically just saying things I was feeling and they were giving basic ways to reduce them, felt very treat the symptoms not the disease, it's enough to feel it's making an impact, and it does help short term. My second time around going to therapy I explicitly went in saying "I'm looking how to take these feelings and fully understand them and process them, not just mitigate them when they're overwhelming" and it helped a lot more, but it's weird I'm the one that has to set that end goal
It definitely depends on the therapist. I've had some very good experiences and some very bad ones.
just wanna say, as a garfield collector... you are my favorite youtuber. but it's not *just* because of the garfields... your immensely insightful critiques of nostalgic media is nothing short of genius. i love how deep you research into these shows, no matter how insignificant they seem to most people, (although important to many of us,) the amount of thought and effort you put into creating these videos is unlike what anyone has been able to do on the platform with even the most serious of subjects. you put more passion into icarly & sam & cat documentation than the true crime youtubers put into their murder case videos. so yeah just commenting to say THANK YOU for making these!! i love watching them while i paint.
hope you're doing ok after having covid!
Jeannette deserved better. Full stop. I think she's extremely brave for pulling back the wallpaper and showing how fucked up the entertainment industry is, especially with child actors.
I think the 2020s should be the decade we re-examine the world of child acting and dispose of the idea of the child star. There will always be a need for young people in media, but we have to remember that these are children first and actors second.
I think Bluey is a good first step. The voice actors for the children aren't credited so they won't be harassed by the media and they're given free reign to either keep voicing the characters or quit; there is no obligation to stay.
Yep, just yes, I think the kids that are actors should be constantly checked by mental health professionals to be sure everything is voluntary and wanted, also to teach them not traumatizing techniques to be sad or scared on command, because they do exist.
Even better: ban child actors entirely. Have underage fictional characters played by adults in both cartoons and live action. Yes it will be weird seeing a 30 year old dressed up and behaving like a 5 year old but it’s better to do that instead of having a minor act.
@@ghagefuoco8373 Not even kidding, it's definitely preferable. Some adult actors can play really young roles and pull them off anyways, many do already. It's just that the concept of a child having a job is something we should try our hardest to do away with as a society, honestly. The fact that we all have the mental image of a stereotypical child star whose life spirals as they get older, specifically because it has happened so many times already, is so fucked up when you think about it.
@@ghagefuoco8373 why cartoons? You don’t see a kid in cartoons and they could always go uncredited like the Bluey example above. Are the conditions bad or something?
"Everyone who calls Jennette a nickname has a negative effect on her life... and *you* call her Sam!"
I must love being called out like that because I see how true it really is.
This was the bit more than any that really hit me hard (I had already read her book and while it is still a gut punch I knew what was coming). Like, I never fangirled over iCarly the way the people screaming at her about butter socks in public did so when I was reading the book I was able to mentally go “that wasn’t me, I’m better” but I for sure called her Sam my whole childhood despite knowing her full actual name
I don’t know why, but hearing Quinton call a bucket a Bouquet at 1:12:35 and remembering the context for it has had me in a giggle fit
Finally, at the 9:23:30 mark, and after seven videos where his specter has been floating around in the background, always present but never spoken of save for in unknowns, his name is finally mentioned, and I can finally move on to the video "We Don't Talk About Dan Schneider".
I haven't seen a comment about it, so I wanna say that the inclusion of Mitch as a character to get away with Aaron Paul quotes is genuinely incredible.
Edit: Here's a timestamp 16:33
It's genuinely one of the funniest things, I love it.
Undeniably the funniest part of the video
dan schneider wishes he had the artistic creativity of those teenage kids
It legit really is extremely funny, just the idea of that is very creative and funny
The zoom in to show his shirt saying MITCH is peak comedy
Your tangent about Goomer is so refreshing. I had already outgrown Nickelodeon shows by this point but I did see some bits because I have younger siblings, and something that really irks me is that the Nickelodeon formula, especially in the last decade, has been a cast of mean-spirited egotistical characters that constantly scream at each other and a comic relief character that is a caricature of disabled people for the main cast to bully which they shrug off as being fine because they're "friends".
I'm autistic but was only diagnosed recently and I vividly remember being treated that sort of way by my "friends" in school, but I didn't realise how poorly they were treating me until they pushed it too far for me to make excuses for.
Goomer is such a sweet, empathetic character who deserved to be treated like a friend by the other cast instead of being used, made fun of and gaslit.
Someone mentioned that it’s a ripple effect of the whole “KIDS RULE, ADULTS SUCK” mentality that Nick pushed back then and as a result they - on complete accident - created Goomer to be the Crazy Steve, the Lewbert, the punching bag before seeing that everyone liked him too much and overcorrected.
my own thoughts exactly‼️
cat valentine was also definitely neurodivergent coded, especially in victorious when she was a comic relief side character
@@Bluelight802absolutely!
The Creator's pattern of these neurodivergent-coded side characters who are played for the joke of being "weird" to the derision of the main characters isn't going unnoticed on my part either.
1:11:40 the “Who is Gibby?” Joke is genuinely so funny because you know all those actors get questions like that all the time. Jeanette was using her real irritation to deliver that line 😂
my mental health has finally lowered to the point where i can watch this in one sitting, cheers quinton
re: crying on cue. it might be different for film, but in my experience as a theatre actor I’ve ALWAYS been told that “think of a really sad thing” is a terrible strategy - even if it works for you initially (because it doesn’t work for everyone), it just isn’t sustainable physically or mentally. naturally crying while performing because the emotion of it all gets overwhelming is one thing (and, while it’s less common than you’d think, it happens with plenty of actors), but actively making yourself think of the most terrible things imaginable for days, weeks, even months on end is just plain torturing yourself. while tears aren’t even remotely the end all be all of acting, any coach worth shit will teach you how to trigger them via physical tricks, like silent yawns and such. I can’t even begin to imagine how awful it must’ve been using that “strategy” so consistently, *let alone* using it as a small child
I don't really know anything about acting, but somehow I'm really relieved that there are healthy tricks for crying on cue that work well.
I was taught the same thing growing up in the theater. Nobody ever taught me a trick, but I got real good at SOUNDING like I'm crying, and from the audience who can tell the difference? Probably wouldn't work for camera, but just get a tear stick for the poor kid! I was once in a youth theater production of West Side Story where our Anita would cry every night during the scene where she's attacked by the Jets in Doc's bar. Her friends in the cast would be waiting in the wings to hug her as soon as she came off stage every night.
@@missybarbour6885 same here, I absolutely cannot cry on cue even with the physical tricks but it really truly does not matter for the stage. honestly, I’ve never seen why crying was viewed as such a huge thing in acting anyway - I get the visual langauge of it, yes, but not everyone cries and a scene without tears can be just as devastating as one with
I think you’re very right about the sense of immediate camaraderie in live theatre as well. when I did *into the woods* my big sad song was directly after the witch’s and we would briefly hug backstage during the scene change. that show’s second act is pretty devastating for everyone involved, so it was really necessary for everyone backstage to be there supporting one another
@@sir-dame-sander Yoooo, in collage I ran tech for Into The Woods and you're so right lol
In summer of 2022, I watched Sam and Cat with my brother in order to prepare for the videos. At 4:49:14 when Sam says she is not allowed in Europe, my brother pointed out that she could never visit Carly in Italy. That broke my heart a little bit.
Oh god you’re right. That is really sad.
Damn why does nick makes these characters and have horrible things befall upon them
I wouldn't worry too much, she already has a forged Mexican ID and she's illegally dropped into a country already. I'm sure she would find a way to visit Carly :)
@@plantmage9850lmao knowing Sam she’d threaten some Amazon worker into letting her sneak into a package to mail herself over to Carly
Man…you’re right. That is very sad.
After everything that happened to Jennette McCurdy, I don’t blame her for not wanting to act anymore. The fact that her own abusive mother did the things she did to her and that she was forced to work and was never given a chance to further her career while Ariana Grande was is horrible. I remember hearing somewhere that something bad happened and she was offered hush money, to which she refused which also led to the cancellation of Sam & Cat
2:04:22
me: JARED PADALECKI!?!?
Quinton: my good friend Billiam
You should watch Billiam
Striking me now how despite being 22 minutes long, so many _Sam and Cat_ episodes have no resolution or conclusion. “Stuck in a Box” ends with Cat still in the box. “Drone Baby Drone” ends with the drones still causing havoc. The finale ends with Cat about to go to jail, and feels like the setup for a second part. Just so weird, maybe indicative of poor pacing.
It also strikes me as entirely whiplash-inducing that Jace Norman & The Dice Kid are old now because it feels like both of those shows lasted for like, a year or two and then got buried eventually but were still running on contract.
Like, how is Henry Danger a decade old already?
Anticlimaxes are valid, but you have to be able to pull them off. The problem, really, is that the episodes are just not funny enough. It's like the classic shaggy-dog story. Generally, you have to make people think that everything going on *must* be building towards the resolution of that plot thread, even as the story gets increasingly convoluted.
Imagine, instead, a Futurama episode or something. Fry is stuck in a box. Frantic attempts to get him out of the box lead to a convoluted plan that requires something they don't have. Getting that thing leads to another digression. At the end, they dramatically solve the problem... and it's the incredibly trivial third- or fourth-order complication. Cue rejoicing and flying off into the sunset. Cut to Fry, not only still in the box, but the box is about to be devoured by a giant slime alien we've never seen before. End episode. Never mention it again.
It all depends on really being able to sell the bait-and-switch, the subversion of an expectation. Sam and Cat couldn't sell snow cones in summertime.
i think they just want to have a B plot without ever actually resolving it. In other (better) shows this would be done as a one off gag, but Sam and Cat uses this bit for every single B plot, so they all essentially end with the same joke
@@Nassifeh The Robocop franchise is a good example too with the world still with problems but with the problem from the protagonist resolved
honestly that's just kind of a trope of lazy episodic comedies
I love the fact that in between the three months from the last vid, the infamous Gibby pilot got leaked, and yes, it’s just as insanely disturbing and bizarre as Quinton recreation of it, makes you definitely see why it didn’t get picked up.
Crazy cool coincidence
I literally had to stop this video when I read that to watch the pilot. Yeah, very messed up.
@@raicrushgoing to do the same thing bc somehow I missed the news of the leak
Edit) oh yeah *those* jokes are way worse when not ironically read out with puppets that ending scene is so strange. I see why Nick killed it
Quinton ascends to true UA-camr status and wills something into existence
Also in between that the iCarly reboot straight up died.
Ngl, Jeannette is a good enough writer that I would read like 7 more books by her
THANK YOU for telling me to read this book.
I have autism and ADHD, I really struggle with paying attention to books. I paused this video at 9:00:00, bought the book, read it cover to cover in one sitting, something I’ve never done in my entire life before. Every word resonated with me and I have never ever related more to any piece of media ever. I am overwhelmed with emotion and I was left stunned and speechless for a solid 15 minutes after the book ended. Thank you so much, Quinton.
God I can relate so much I really wish I didn't have that
Sam loving having Nona as her roommate is actually sad when we rememmber what her mother was like in iCarly. She never had this positive maternal figure to watch over her or cook homemade meals. I see that finale as a happy ending.
I agree! It seems framed as Sam being selfish for enjoying it but knowing the full story it just sounds like a story of a poor girl being shown unconditional love and basic dignity for the first time in her life
I agree, I was surprised Quinton said it was a terrible finale because it was probably the closest thing to a happy ending Sam could get in a show as cynical as Sam and Cat. And Cat going to jail is a bummer but serves as a sort of ironic flip. Cat ends up in prison where Sam used to be while Sam gets a chance to be raised by Cat's caretaker.
I agree
@@MightyMewtron
Yes, but given what we've seen here about Cat being a danger to others, maybe it's not so bad that she's incarcerated.
doll collector here!- the dolls shown before the Fresno Girl Doll episode were all American Girl dolls but the ones shown in the episode all seem to me like Our Generation dolls. I assume the other times they needed a doll they literally used someone from the production's kid's doll and when they needed to fill an entire room of them it was much more affordable to buy $30 OG dolls vs $115 AG dolls. So as a doll nerd the whole joke about them being so expensive made me turn into Quinton when there was no Jesse Pinkman bitch joke
edit: The wheelchair is also from Our Generation as its a more hot pink color than the American Girl ones I could find. It's hard to tell but the handlebars on the side match the Our Generation one and don't have pink accents like the American Girl one. The doll hospital is real but they never give you a wheelchair when they send you back the doll and its something you buy separately. You can pay extra for your doll to come with a get well soon balloon. (sorry for the useless information brain dump)
fellow doll collector and ag fan here! thank you so much for adding this, i was about to do the same thing lol.
That’s what I figured! AG dolls have such a specific mold, though I’m not as well versed in the OG line so I wondered if they were some kind of knock off or not. Love seeing doll nerds though
Howdy fellow doll nerds, I was hoping I'd find a comment from one of us down here explaining the doll details because I know absolutely nothing about AG outside of the photos other doll people post online
Fellow doll collector here, I'll be honest I don't know much about American Girl dolls or Our Generation dolls cause I prefer collecting dolls that look more alternative, spooky, more to my other niches (monster high, begoth, living dead, etc) but now you got me curious how to identify the two and now I'm going into thinking of going another deep dive after this video about the two dolls 😂
@@Alexenarain That’s honestly what got me into collecting myself. I watched one video talking about a very valuable doll I slowly realized was my childhood doll and it sent me down an entire rabbit hole
this is the most varied comment section i have read in my over two decades of being a constant user of this site
being only 2 hrs in to this jaunty funny haha video and seeing the wildest most emotionally rivetted and genuinely affected human anecdotes after hearing about what the childrens tv show characters got up to in the latest episode; is such a wonderously one of a kind experience for me rn; ty for this vid, so glad to not only watch this 9hr vid today Quinton but to see the difference now to when you were first uploading
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jeanette's book is pog
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