@@HalfdeadRider I know it doesn't, i happily hit 150+ on mine but I'd still welcome more HP !😁 If not more HP, better fuel management. Sadly they fluffed the '22 MT imo
I currently have a 2018 Superduke 1290 and a 2019 Tuono Factory. The Superduke has the titanium Akrapovic plus every single option from the Powerparts catalogue. The Tuono has the Akrapovic and that’s about it. I’ve had about 50 bikes over the years, including an R1M, shitloads of Aprilia’s, R1s, RC8s etc etc. Both bikes now are the best I’ve ever had. I thought the Tuono would overshadow the 1290 with its semi active suspension, but the KTM holds its own. That enormous shove down low in the revs is outrageous. Yet the sound the V4 makes is ridiculous. I’m just lucky as fuck to have both in my garage.
I think setting the dash on the Tuono to nightmode helps a lot with how slick it looks. The background in nightmode is black, with white numbers etc, and red accents. It fits the colorscheme of the bike completely, and night or day, the visibility is always great. As soon as my own Tuono switched to nightmode for the first time automatically in a tunnel, I looked if I could change it permanently. Easy to find, and I've never changed it back. I have no clue why Aprilia has chosen to go with the white greyish scheme to start with.
Been feeling a bit shite recently. Lots of stuff going pear shaped. Nice to see your videos, always give me a bit of a giggle and a smile no matter how down I am beforehand.
44 Teeth is by far the best content on UA-cam. Fagan and BVG are the riding buddies we all wish we had. I miss Boothy though, can’t wait until he’s up and around again! Thanks for showing me the KTM, I was dead set on the Tuono for next year but now I have more test rides to do!
It's a bit rough not having the MT10 SP when you've got the EVO & Factory jobbies. The Leccy Oh-Lynnes would've made a difference in the handling for sure.
Had a Gen 1 SD, absolutely mental but tank slapped everywhere. Swapped it for a Gen 1 MT and spent a bit of cash on the brakes, suspension and a flash. Fantastic. Love to try the latest SD and the Tuono though.
Owned a KTM Adventure S and hated its quirky electronics and never trusted it, then an MT10 and disliked its fuel range but loved how it rode, and now own a Aprilia Tuono V4 and wow! Everything about it is amazing. I just hope it stays reliable and this to has poor fuel range due to my throttle abuse. But the way that Aprilia performs is truly awesome.
@@FortyFourTeeth @44Teeth you guys NEED to ask wtf is a "super naked".. NOT the bloody Aprillia.. youve BOTH been burried in the global bike review swamp.. clear the swamp.. you used too ask real questions & find real answers.. been bought out by the marketing men BS.. sad sad day 44
A mate just bought the new Tuono Factory and boy oh boy is it a beautiful piece of kit. Compared to the Ducati's, KTM's and older Aprilia's I've ridden the new one is bloody amazing.
I just bought a new 22 Tuono, but I went with the standard model because I found the Factory handlebars too low for me and my 60 year old wrists. The Standard has higher bars and a bigger screen which gives significantly better wind protection. But oh my god that V4 motor and the superbike chassis is to die for. And the sound, there is nothing quite like it. I am in love.
I loved my mt10, with its brembo pads up front (I added). Never had any issues. Amazing bike. With an exup valve mod, and a yosh shorty, it sounded like an animal. 👍🇨🇦🤪
A suspension set-up and set of SBS brake pads transformed my 2016 MT-10, awesome machine for just going mad down your favourite twistys, the exhaust and re-map helped a bit too.
Oh boy I miss the Tuono, I had a 2016 and the thing was just incredible to ride. I moved over to supersports but when I get older I could see myself getting another Tuono. Great vid chaps.
I’ve ridden both the KTM and the Aprilia. Purchased the Aprilia in a heart beat. One of my favourite runs Helmsley, Whitby (I hope it was the magpie for fish and chips) and down to Scarborough. Then home to Ripponden.
KTM are offering 3k off the RRP on the SDR. I currently have a 2020 Tuono Factory but it's not without its issues, oil leaking and now the fuel sensor is faulty. Going for a test ride on the non evo Duke. Looking forward to trying the beast 3.0 😊
MT-10 with a brake upgrade and a cheeky remap gives it a whole new ergonomic. If you get the suspension adjusted for the rider, it rides so much better.. I couldn't justify the other price points, MT all day everyday.
I agree! The same upgrades on the bike in SP disguise would be my choice 😉🏁🏁 Can ride it all day - Sardinia can come… Check out tester Schaaf of 1000PS TV… Have upgraded the brakes of my MT09 SP (braided brake lines with sinter track/ road pads), can ride the bike hard on a serious mountain pass and on a fast track day without any sweat - amazing and reliable stopping power. On top, 118 whp taking care of only 182,7 kgs wet complimented by a pro fuelling tune the bike is no slouch in the twisties 😅🏁🏁
I’ve had the pleasure of owning all 3 of these bikes. KTM fits me best ergonomically and the most fun, although the Tuono begs you to exceed your limits (it’s so damn good !) and the MT10 is a great bike as well. I kept the KTM and sold the others.
Damn man that’s cool you got to experience all 3, I had a Tuono years ago and it was easily the best bike I’ve had. I’m on a s1000rr right now, that thing keeps me on my toes lol. I’ve always wanted to ride the superduke, is it really that good?
Hey man, I have a 2021 Duke R and I'm not sure if I should get a Duc SF V4S or a Ape Tuono Factory...Hoping to own the other two but if I had to choose one...I'm still not sure. I don't have the money now but was just wondering which would be the better choice...I like all 3 of them and I don't think I'll be parting ways with the Duke R in a very long time.
@@luckyleo88 the aprilia is hands own a must own bike, it does everything you want it to do and handles like a dream. The Ducati Is an incredible bike but you need to keep something in mind, the reliability is a real issue, and the service can be a nightmare on the Ducati. I’ve ridden both and I would choose the aprilia, it sounds better, is more raucous down low, and is considerably cheaper than the duc.
Which one would you consider to be the best daily banger? Budget wise I'm leaning towards on used Super Duke or an MT-10. Tuono is the wet dream out of the three though, too expensive brand new and impossible to find second hand. Somehow I also feel it's a bit too tight for a daily bike and for occasional longer cruises. Also not so sure about the Italian reliability. I've ridden both SD and the MT and comfort / useability-wise I would ever so slightly lean towards the Yammy. I just don't like the looks of the MT. I've heard the 790 / 890 Dukes have had some reliability issues, don't know how things are with the SD. I'm coming from an MT-09 which I've found to be the perfect daily banger, dead reliable the Yammies are though which I like...
@@Ta3kno best daily banger is the mt10 hands down, lively enough and very reliable. The aprilia is the best bike out of the three IMO, but it is a bit cramped compared to the duke and Yamaha. Aprilia has become much more reliable, I put 25,000 miles on my Tuono and it never gave me any trouble, but you definitely pay more for servicing. The best value is the mt10 for sure, the best bike is the aprilia haha.
Great stuff on great (very familiar) roads. Chris summed it up, it’s not how fast you get there, it’s how much enjoyment you have getting there and I have had 5 years of utter hilarity on an MT10, test rode both the KTM and Tuono this year and loved them both but probably hanging on for now until a certain German manufacturer lets me test ride the forthcoming M1000R. Cheers boys
Bang for buck MT10 all day every day. Especially with a naughty little remap....Loved mine was the best bike I've ever owned, waiting for these new ones to drop in price a little bit more, then one shall be mine🤩
Love the content as always. Having had both the original models the 10SP isn’t enough of an upgrade to change the result of this test in my opinion. But in terms of smiles per $$ the MT is hard to pass up over the others in this scenario.
I have Duke 890 R which of course is not as powerful as the Beast but to be honest somehow I love the raw explosive power as opposed to the smoothness of 4-cylinder bikes. It just feels like madness... I really wanna try how the Beast feels like
Great content. Honest, raw, fun and factual. I want to hear the engine, know the seat is average, see the riding position and listen to gripes and laughs about a bike. This style of review just works. I’ve been looking between the Aprilia and KTM and this gave me the info I had been chasing. Hooligan/gentleman is the current feeling.
Good comparison vid. I recently bought a 2022 Tuono V4 Factory and absolutely love it. I don’t like the headlight on the KTMs but it is a stonking bike.
One thing we can all agree on is that they all sound amazing! vtwin, crossplane and v4 are the top of my list when it comes to sound. Flatplane 2s, ❤4s, or any configuration of triple just doesn't tickle my pickle.
@@Sinister_fartbox exactly. I love the tuono's v4 but I'm not a fan of plastics and i hate the fact that they just removed a few panels on the side and started calling it a naked bike.
I agree. I did test the MT10SP in 2022 and recently the SDR and for me the KTM is better and even more fun to ride. Also more expensive... But the recent price increases of Yamaha put the MT10SP on a difficult spot.
The MT needs a few small tweaks to be a top notch bike. But the good thing is that they are all simple and affordable to do. -The comfort seat is WAY better than the stock plank seat. -Brakes are remedied quite a bit with a simple pad swap. -The "sluggishness" when tipping into a corner can also be remedied by dropping the triple tree down a notch free of charge. -A tune makes the throttle/fueling butter smooth. A few simple mods do wonders for the riding experience and then you end up with an amazing performing, comfortable, and RELIABLE bike that'll last you for ages while being like $5k cheaper than the KTM/Aprilia. Yamaha will even warranty the engine for 100k miles or 20 years if you use yamalube engine oil. Can't beat that.
Glad to see there's someone that realizes that some quick and easy nudges can really help this bike out. There's no need to keep one of these bikes stock and 'settle' for a '7' out of '10' when you can do a comfort seat/brakes/triple drop/ECU Tune (when available for the '22+) and have Tuono (stock) power, better brakes (feel & strength), more comfort and better handling. It doesn't solve the hit or miss looks, MPG, boring ass end, hours you're going to spend cleaning grime/bugs out of the thousands of nooks and crannies, but it damned sure helps. (That said, I'd still take the Tuono.)
Great seeing you boys up this part of the world, i live in Hartlepool and i knew all the roads you rode on very well specially the Helmsley to whitby route which is one of my fave circuits.
It’s been said but be careful on them, they are incredible when new, loads of grip….and then they fall off a freaking hill, they lose every bit of grip after about 800 miles. I was talking with my mechanic and he had the same experience.
I rode them all when I bought the Gen 2 Superduke and felt much the same way back then. I'm a sucker for torquey sports V-Twin though, especially with open class performance, and that's the last one. The Aprilia was good, and I loved the sound, but I've got one dealer within 800kms and they've gone through a bunch of fly-by-nights that disappeared. There's 3 KTM dealers within 10-20 km of me. Coming from Japanese sports bikes I was worried about reliability on both of them, but so far it's been apples.
Great review! I too test rode the aprilia back to back with my 22 mt10 - the Aprilia has a sportier riding position and makes you feel more at one with the bike, the suspension also feels much better! I liked both engines the same, couldn’t pick between for the roads both have heaps of power! With the KTM reliability wasn’t mentioned, my mate bought a brand new KTM 1290 and it got called back in 3 times in the first couple of months for electrical faults through summer so he gave it back! Really put me off owning one. It’s one thing thinking about which ones the most fun for a weekend hoon but another from an ownership/reliability and cost of up keep stand point! Keep up the great content! 🙌🙌🙌
you F#@ked up on the chippy thing, best one is in Wetwang!! ask Bruce n Chopsie. did you pop see Boothy? looking forward to seeing him back on screen. Top vid lads, well done.
Bought a Tuono V4 last month. Absolutely in love with that machine. I think that the “naked” tag don’t fully apply to it. More a hyper/super sport bike with handlebars.
Just put in 300 miles over the last two days on my new MT10. Got to say these S22 tyres are awesome. I'm going to order some more to put into storage so I can keep running them. Sods law, knowing my luck they will discontinue them just as I'm due new tyres, so I'm going to stock up on a couple of sets. They aren't silly expensive either.
Fabulous insight into what's actually important and how these best in class machines deliver on that - Great review - Tuono is spectacular slicing thru bends at real pace and in real comfort thanks to superb electronic suspension - 80% sportbike 20% limousine - But Tuono is pretty clinical and still has hopeless old style complicated electronic interface (un-navigable menus etc) - KTMs controls are first class / State of the Art - Super intuitive - And its a riot to ride - No contest
hi lads and hello from the Republic of Ireland. I enjoyed this video...unfortunately, I'm a short-arse...but I'm getting a 2021 Yamaha MT-07 tomorrow. A nice birthday present for myself. Happy days!
I guess the S1000R wasn’t available at the time of this being shot? And why are Ducrapi funny about the 200/55 tyre? Honda need to sling some flat bars on the blade and get involved. I’m so surprised the slightly older CB1000R wasn’t a massive success. It looks so cool !
Miss a tuono, my only gripe was the horn button. The most amazing sounding bike on the planet with telepathic handling. Riding to Loomies will never be the same, maybe i should get another 🤣
Fantastic vid guys. Taking a Evo out Monday so 🤞🤞 Had a gen 2 until last year, suspension let it down if anything. I've ridden a gen 3 which was night and day better so already know I'm going to love the Evo.
A huge factor as well as the price in favour of the MT10 over the other two is reliability. It doesn't come up much in tests because most people have these bikes on PCP or HP. Totally agree about the brakes though. Surely Yamaha can make a better job of them. Regarding the standard suspension, it's possible to improve the factory settings which begs the question, why don't Yamaha send them out like that?
I sold my Tuono V4 and bought a Superduke because the Tuono was cramped and wasn't practical. Now I wish I still had my cramped, impractical, glorious scalpel-like V4.
"It's literally like the handlebars are controlling the front wheel!" - Where else could you go to get such perceptive, insightful motorcycling journalism? "...its like a waterboatman...on acid!" I mean c'mon! Long live 44T!! God speed Boothy!! #44T
You missed the best road. Instead of turning right at Helmsley towards Pickering (where the bellend in the car was). Turn left and head north on the B1257 towards Stokesley. Locals call it the Stokesley TT 😁
As a 22 mt10 sp owner I can tell that the problems 44 teeth mentioned with the bike are still there. And at the time of my purchase I can have these 3 for pretty much the same price, but I still picked the mt for 1 reason, reliability. As a road bike the last thing I want would be a break down in the mid of nowhere.
MT-10 is awesome with a comfort seat and brake pad change. When buying I rode it back to back with the KTM, I couldn't see the value in paying so much more. Not to mention the KTM's electronic gremlins and gear shift selector so small I kept missing gear changes. The Aprilia is just way to small for larger people to be comfortable.
I don't know. I was so disappointed with the MT10 that I used to own the 2017 model. The new model didn't address any issues for me, and they made the bike numb and not as fun as it used to be. When I buy the flagship bike, I expect it to be complete. The seat is horrible, which makes the r1 feel like a goldwing. The fuel is odd, and I didn't like the way it felt and handled. It was very lazy and heavy, and the riding position is more common with ADV bikes than with sporty nakeds. If you are looking for a more budget-friendly option, the GSXS1000 and cb1000r are both better bikes than the Mt10 because they feel complete and perfectly good even in stock, and they handle much better. I'm 6.4 and I own a 2019 Tuono 1100 and it fits me perfectly.
The new Tuono is more roomy and comfortable than previous models. I bought the standard model which has higher bars and a bigger more useful screen and ,oh and a dual seat with a grab rail. I am 6ft and it fits me really well. The engine and chassis is in a different league compared to the MT10. And the looks are miles better. Fit and finish again is far superior to the Yam. The Mt 10 is a good bike but is let down by the looks and finish and cheap switch gear in my opinion. The seat is also just nasty. I did look at new MT10 [in blue] but I am mighty glad I went with the Tuono.
I’d actually seen these guys at devils bridge when being filmed when delivering training. Owning both the 2022 V4 Aprilia and KTM Evo. Hands down the KTM is now the better bike. Aprilia, feels cheap and plastic. It handles so well but it doesn’t have the same build quality as the previous year. However it does handle better and the sound with the akra can and map is fab. But it’s dated! The KTM add the akra titanium system at extra 2.5k and it’s brings out the inner child and is great town bike and smooth and a playful flickable toy as soon as your on some twisting roads. The Bluetooth connectivity links fab to your phone and intercom. No issues at all with the quick shifter etc, the performance pack is a must. So the bike your spending 21k it’s then the supernaked it’s top of the tree. It’s sublime, however I still track a Tuono!
Nice video chaps, appreciate the effort. I bought a 2019 Tuono factory partly due to your 2019 Tuono vid. Any bike that makes Fagan giggle that much has to be worth a look. Currently have a 2021 MT-10, just easier to tour on, and have a MT-10 SP on order. They're all cracking bikes but agree 100% that the Tuono is the "best" bike but not necessarily the bike you want.
Well I am following the near exact same path as you, I had the 2019 Tuono as well, in part thanks of the video. I've just sold it after 35000km and have ordered an MT-10SP. And again, yes, the Tuono is the best, but I simply had more fun on the MT-10 when testing it.
@@RutgerSmets Yes 100%. The Tuono is a bit too serious and precious. The MT-10 is up for a laugh and doesn't mind getting in to a pub fight with you 😄. Can't wait for the SP, I think the suspension will finish it off nicely as the standard suspension, especially at the rear, is a bit lacking.
Thanks fellas, great video as usual! Had the FZ10 , definitely a point and shooter, traded it for H2SX, which was nice but ,, traded that on a22 Hayabusa. No going back ! Smooth , quick and comfortable, well for me (6’2”) . Sublime quick shifter too . Take care , love every vid. Cheers to Gary being around .
Between the Speed triple RS at 14.1k, MT-10 at 12.3k, Super Duke Evo at 17.6k or the Tuono V4 non-factory at 14.1k which would you choose with the following criteria/info: No track riding, mostly 2 and 4 lane roads (1 each way or 2 each way) good 60-120mph and having only 2 Aprilia dealers within a 2 hour ride away. I'm leaning towards the MT-10 and Speed Triple.
Excellent, I love these bikes. It's all about the road-riding and having fun, even on a track. The prices are way up there for me, it's dream bikes; the Ape and the Duke.
In the USA, the Speed Triple is a strong contender. It's not easy to service Italian, and we're not liking KTM's sales direction. Weird looking "budget" MT-10 doesn't get a lot of love. But the reality almost everything here is either a cruiser or a sportsbike or a coffee fetching adventure bike. I don't really see any other supernakeds on the road.
Wow! My old stomping ground in the 90's up there. I am sorry you didn't go off piste onto the back roads because they are motorcycle heaven, and I was driving a tractor. Nice test and scenes and Garry. 🙂
I enjoyed this.. I have a V4S at the moment, love it, but age is creeping up on me and my body has some wear and tear, so been thinking more and more about a naked bike.. For me it would be a choice between the Tuono or the the Super Duke...
One of my favourite features of the Gen 1 SDR is how agricultural it is. Aren't minor flaws character? I haven't taken a new one or an RR out yet but, just like fuel consumption, refinement isn't why you buy one.
What a shame you didn't turn left at the mini roundabout in Helmsley. If you had you would have been on the Stokesley TT route. Fabulous road for bikes!
In my experience the previous gen of the Tuono (Akra + Race map), was way more of a pig around town than the previous gen 2 Superduke. I owned them both B2B and I bought the KTM for the smoothness. I found the Tuono imperfectly fuelled at low speeds and very hard to hold back. You fell in love with that noise and were doing stupid speeds, never really scratching that itch (if you had any consideration for your licence). I can keep the Superduke more sensible and get my kicks from the torque like I’ve never gotten from any bike before. The live front end and madness of the Torque is just intoxicating. Fantastic video guys. Love it as always. ❤
I found them to be the opposite but I have a 2016 TV41100F and have only ridden the 2015 SDR. I couldn't buy that and have stayed out of jail. The Tuono is quick but I know I am moving when I am going fast. The SDR had little sensation of speed. The Euro 3 Tuono is better fueled and has a much easier throttle to modulate than the Euro 4 Tuono (friend has a 2020 and it's quite sloppy). Not sure about the E5 Tuono as I haven't ridden one yet. I like that they finally did something about the lighting which sucks on the older bike. I have another friend with a gen 2 SDR he built up nicely but he moved away before I got to ride it so hopefully I can check it out some day.
@@saisr1 the Gen 2 superduke is far smoother than the gen 1. Everyone’s perception and appreciation of a bike is different. That’s what’s so great about them.
I love Chris's comments on the MT10. I too am a Yamaha fan boy but today I picked up my gen 2 Superduke R and parked it next to my BMW S1000R. So here we are. Yamaha need to move up
I love these shootouts and it's actually quite amazing that you get a hold on these bikes while every dealer is running low on stock (atleast over here in the Netherlands). Adding the S1000R, 1200RS and the V4 SF (if they're not being lil' bitches about the tyres) would really spice things up. I'm very curious about the conclusion with the 'full pack' of Super Nakeds. Then again, this is great. You guys always make me smile, almost as much as the nice lady does at @3:58
You guys! (said with a Swedish accent).... only you lot would find a way of parking up on the tip of Wetwang 🤣 Can we have a tour or BBB that is dedicated to places with the double entendre?! Great work as always lads 👊🏻
Own a 1290 SDR, and have ridden my buddy's MT10. It feels very Japanese in the feel fit and finish, but i just want to get back on my KTM every time we switch.
Jeez. To those taking things way too seriously, the MT-10 SP wasn’t even in the country when we shot this test
Don't worry abou tit, the MT-10 is dogshit compared to the competition.
@@mrkang4080 Lol the MT10 is a beast. Once Yamaha decide to not neuter their R1 engine and let the MT have more HP it'll be in the top 2
The SP is barely different from the regular, not a huge deal. You won't find any 10 SP in the USA either.
@@P.M_M Doesn't need more top speed, quicker acceleration is more fun more of the time.
@@HalfdeadRider I know it doesn't, i happily hit 150+ on mine but I'd still welcome more HP !😁 If not more HP, better fuel management. Sadly they fluffed the '22 MT imo
I currently have a 2018 Superduke 1290 and a 2019 Tuono Factory. The Superduke has the titanium Akrapovic plus every single option from the Powerparts catalogue. The Tuono has the Akrapovic and that’s about it. I’ve had about 50 bikes over the years, including an R1M, shitloads of Aprilia’s, R1s, RC8s etc etc.
Both bikes now are the best I’ve ever had. I thought the Tuono would overshadow the 1290 with its semi active suspension, but the KTM holds its own. That enormous shove down low in the revs is outrageous. Yet the sound the V4 makes is ridiculous. I’m just lucky as fuck to have both in my garage.
Which do you like better??
I have 2017 superduke, definitive bike....it's perfect.
I think setting the dash on the Tuono to nightmode helps a lot with how slick it looks. The background in nightmode is black, with white numbers etc, and red accents. It fits the colorscheme of the bike completely, and night or day, the visibility is always great. As soon as my own Tuono switched to nightmode for the first time automatically in a tunnel, I looked if I could change it permanently. Easy to find, and I've never changed it back. I have no clue why Aprilia has chosen to go with the white greyish scheme to start with.
It does look good, I keep mine on the night mode
How did you change it?
Been feeling a bit shite recently. Lots of stuff going pear shaped. Nice to see your videos, always give me a bit of a giggle and a smile no matter how down I am beforehand.
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Keep looking forward mate and think about the good times. Just remember that the shit times aren't forever even if they feel like it.
Hey man, how's it going a year later.. Hang in there...
44 Teeth is by far the best content on UA-cam. Fagan and BVG are the riding buddies we all wish we had. I miss Boothy though, can’t wait until he’s up and around again! Thanks for showing me the KTM, I was dead set on the Tuono for next year but now I have more test rides to do!
It's a bit rough not having the MT10 SP when you've got the EVO & Factory jobbies. The Leccy Oh-Lynnes would've made a difference in the handling for sure.
It wasn’t even in the country when we shot this
The Evo seems like a rather pointless "upgrade" for most people though.
Is the MT SP available ? I didn’t think it was out?..
Tests should have the cheapest bike specced up to the max with the other bikes subsequntly specked up to the same value to make it fair...
@@2ane better suspension, be surprised how poor the stock stuff is if you need it
2:23thanks guys, had that playing on full volume 😂😂
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@@FortyFourTeeth'Aprilier'
Had a Gen 1 SD, absolutely mental but tank slapped everywhere. Swapped it for a Gen 1 MT and spent a bit of cash on the brakes, suspension and a flash. Fantastic.
Love to try the latest SD and the Tuono though.
Owned a KTM Adventure S and hated its quirky electronics and never trusted it, then an MT10 and disliked its fuel range but loved how it rode, and now own a Aprilia Tuono V4 and wow! Everything about it is amazing. I just hope it stays reliable and this to has poor fuel range due to my throttle abuse. But the way that Aprilia performs is truly awesome.
A dreary monday just got a bit better! Loving the amount of content the last couple of weeks👌🏻
Thanks Johan 👊🏼
@@FortyFourTeeth @44Teeth you guys NEED to ask wtf is a "super naked".. NOT the bloody Aprillia.. youve BOTH been burried in the global bike review swamp.. clear the swamp.. you used too ask real questions & find real answers.. been bought out by the marketing men BS.. sad sad day 44
A mate just bought the new Tuono Factory and boy oh boy is it a beautiful piece of kit. Compared to the Ducati's, KTM's and older Aprilia's I've ridden the new one is bloody amazing.
I just bought a new 22 Tuono, but I went with the standard model because I found the Factory handlebars too low for me and my 60 year old wrists. The Standard has higher bars and a bigger screen which gives significantly better wind protection. But oh my god that V4 motor and the superbike chassis is to die for. And the sound, there is nothing quite like it. I am in love.
I loved my mt10, with its brembo pads up front (I added). Never had any issues. Amazing bike. With an exup valve mod, and a yosh shorty, it sounded like an animal. 👍🇨🇦🤪
You made the best choice. Every time I venture out of Jap bikes I have reliability headaches.
A suspension set-up and set of SBS brake pads transformed my 2016 MT-10, awesome machine for just going mad down your favourite twistys, the exhaust and re-map helped a bit too.
Absolutely if this test was running the new electronically controlled sp I feel like it would have been better lol
Oh boy I miss the Tuono, I had a 2016 and the thing was just incredible to ride. I moved over to supersports but when I get older I could see myself getting another Tuono. Great vid chaps.
I’ve ridden both the KTM and the Aprilia. Purchased the Aprilia in a heart beat.
One of my favourite runs Helmsley, Whitby (I hope it was the magpie for fish and chips) and down to Scarborough. Then home to Ripponden.
KTM are offering 3k off the RRP on the SDR. I currently have a 2020 Tuono Factory but it's not without its issues, oil leaking and now the fuel sensor is faulty. Going for a test ride on the non evo Duke. Looking forward to trying the beast 3.0 😊
You want evo with a tech pack, trust me.
How did the test ride go?
MT-10 with a brake upgrade and a cheeky remap gives it a whole new ergonomic. If you get the suspension adjusted for the rider, it rides so much better.. I couldn't justify the other price points, MT all day everyday.
I agree! The same upgrades on the bike in SP disguise would be my choice 😉🏁🏁
Can ride it all day - Sardinia can come…
Check out tester Schaaf of 1000PS TV…
Have upgraded the brakes of my MT09 SP (braided brake lines with sinter track/ road pads), can ride the bike hard on a serious mountain pass and on a fast track day without any sweat - amazing and reliable stopping power.
On top, 118 whp taking care of only 182,7 kgs wet complimented by a pro fuelling tune the bike is no slouch in the twisties 😅🏁🏁
Best edited video I've seen you guys, well done. That V4 sound is unreal!
You're killing it with the content boys!
11:22 should have definitely turned left at that Mini roundabout boys…. Helmsley to Stokesley TT 🤘
I’ve had the pleasure of owning all 3 of these bikes. KTM fits me best ergonomically and the most fun, although the Tuono begs you to exceed your limits (it’s so damn good !) and the MT10 is a great bike as well. I kept the KTM and sold the others.
Damn man that’s cool you got to experience all 3, I had a Tuono years ago and it was easily the best bike I’ve had. I’m on a s1000rr right now, that thing keeps me on my toes lol. I’ve always wanted to ride the superduke, is it really that good?
Hey man, I have a 2021 Duke R and I'm not sure if I should get a Duc SF V4S or a Ape Tuono Factory...Hoping to own the other two but if I had to choose one...I'm still not sure. I don't have the money now but was just wondering which would be the better choice...I like all 3 of them and I don't think I'll be parting ways with the Duke R in a very long time.
@@luckyleo88 the aprilia is hands own a must own bike, it does everything you want it to do and handles like a dream. The Ducati Is an incredible bike but you need to keep something in mind, the reliability is a real issue, and the service can be a nightmare on the Ducati. I’ve ridden both and I would choose the aprilia, it sounds better, is more raucous down low, and is considerably cheaper than the duc.
Which one would you consider to be the best daily banger? Budget wise I'm leaning towards on used Super Duke or an MT-10. Tuono is the wet dream out of the three though, too expensive brand new and impossible to find second hand. Somehow I also feel it's a bit too tight for a daily bike and for occasional longer cruises. Also not so sure about the Italian reliability. I've ridden both SD and the MT and comfort / useability-wise I would ever so slightly lean towards the Yammy. I just don't like the looks of the MT. I've heard the 790 / 890 Dukes have had some reliability issues, don't know how things are with the SD. I'm coming from an MT-09 which I've found to be the perfect daily banger, dead reliable the Yammies are though which I like...
@@Ta3kno best daily banger is the mt10 hands down, lively enough and very reliable. The aprilia is the best bike out of the three IMO, but it is a bit cramped compared to the duke and Yamaha. Aprilia has become much more reliable, I put 25,000 miles on my Tuono and it never gave me any trouble, but you definitely pay more for servicing. The best value is the mt10 for sure, the best bike is the aprilia haha.
I quite like the editing on this. Adding the static shots while riding/talking isn't something most people do. I dig it!
Great stuff on great (very familiar) roads. Chris summed it up, it’s not how fast you get there, it’s how much enjoyment you have getting there and I have had 5 years of utter hilarity on an MT10, test rode both the KTM and Tuono this year and loved them both but probably hanging on for now until a certain German manufacturer lets me test ride the forthcoming M1000R. Cheers boys
I think the M will be a game changer ! The others will need to catch up but it's preety exspensive.
Great video! Should have gone left at the roundabout though gents you missed a great road!
Bang for buck MT10 all day every day. Especially with a naughty little remap....Loved mine was the best bike I've ever owned, waiting for these new ones to drop in price a little bit more, then one shall be mine🤩
Love the content as always. Having had both the original models the 10SP isn’t enough of an upgrade to change the result of this test in my opinion. But in terms of smiles per $$ the MT is hard to pass up over the others in this scenario.
I mean electronically controlled premium suspension is sure to make a difference lol
I have Duke 890 R which of course is not as powerful as the Beast but to be honest somehow I love the raw explosive power as opposed to the smoothness of 4-cylinder bikes. It just feels like madness... I really wanna try how the Beast feels like
Great content. Honest, raw, fun and factual. I want to hear the engine, know the seat is average, see the riding position and listen to gripes and laughs about a bike. This style of review just works. I’ve been looking between the Aprilia and KTM and this gave me the info I had been chasing. Hooligan/gentleman is the current feeling.
Good comparison vid. I recently bought a 2022 Tuono V4 Factory and absolutely love it. I don’t like the headlight on the KTMs but it is a stonking bike.
One thing we can all agree on is that they all sound amazing! vtwin, crossplane and v4 are the top of my list when it comes to sound. Flatplane 2s, ❤4s, or any configuration of triple just doesn't tickle my pickle.
Tuono is looking like a sports bike not a naked lol
@@Sinister_fartbox exactly. I love the tuono's v4 but I'm not a fan of plastics and i hate the fact that they just removed a few panels on the side and started calling it a naked bike.
@@r.i.p2464 yeah that’s a thing I’m tired of hearing, Pure super sports with a few missing fairings and people call it nakeds.
I agree. I did test the MT10SP in 2022 and recently the SDR and for me the KTM is better and even more fun to ride. Also more expensive... But the recent price increases of Yamaha put the MT10SP on a difficult spot.
Really good to see Baron enjoying himself again on a bike review with his hype man Fagan! Happy bloody days
Would have been nice to have the Triumph Speed Triple 1200RS in the mix as well. Good job lads
The MT needs a few small tweaks to be a top notch bike. But the good thing is that they are all simple and affordable to do.
-The comfort seat is WAY better than the stock plank seat.
-Brakes are remedied quite a bit with a simple pad swap.
-The "sluggishness" when tipping into a corner can also be remedied by dropping the triple tree down a notch free of charge.
-A tune makes the throttle/fueling butter smooth.
A few simple mods do wonders for the riding experience and then you end up with an amazing performing, comfortable, and RELIABLE bike that'll last you for ages while being like $5k cheaper than the KTM/Aprilia.
Yamaha will even warranty the engine for 100k miles or 20 years if you use yamalube engine oil. Can't beat that.
Glad to see there's someone that realizes that some quick and easy nudges can really help this bike out. There's no need to keep one of these bikes stock and 'settle' for a '7' out of '10' when you can do a comfort seat/brakes/triple drop/ECU Tune (when available for the '22+) and have Tuono (stock) power, better brakes (feel & strength), more comfort and better handling.
It doesn't solve the hit or miss looks, MPG, boring ass end, hours you're going to spend cleaning grime/bugs out of the thousands of nooks and crannies, but it damned sure helps.
(That said, I'd still take the Tuono.)
Glad I bought a Gen 3 Duke R 4 months ago. No regrets, the most fun I had in a long time.
Beginning at Haswell county Durham , then onto Oliver's Mount.
Great seeing you boys up this part of the world, i live in Hartlepool and i knew all the roads you rode on very well specially the Helmsley to whitby route which is one of my fave circuits.
Helmsley to Stokesley for me, just an epic ride, but I agree, that run is awesome 👍🏻
Ah, the good old Helmsley TT
12:52 that sound….. 😱😍😍😍😍
Those S22s really are great. Solid round bits.
Aye great for 800 miles....
I like them too, best tire for old superbikes without traction control, so much confidence and grip. Using them on my Honda VTR Firestorm 97
@@rideroll9609 that's a great bike. They called it the SuperHawk here. You get the yellow or red one?
If only Bridgestone made condoms... I'd buy some!
It’s been said but be careful on them, they are incredible when new, loads of grip….and then they fall off a freaking hill, they lose every bit of grip after about 800 miles. I was talking with my mechanic and he had the same experience.
what tires did they/them use?
Great review guys! I have ordered an MT-10SP, now I have to play the waiting game.
I rode them all when I bought the Gen 2 Superduke and felt much the same way back then. I'm a sucker for torquey sports V-Twin though, especially with open class performance, and that's the last one. The Aprilia was good, and I loved the sound, but I've got one dealer within 800kms and they've gone through a bunch of fly-by-nights that disappeared. There's 3 KTM dealers within 10-20 km of me. Coming from Japanese sports bikes I was worried about reliability on both of them, but so far it's been apples.
Great review! I too test rode the aprilia back to back with my 22 mt10 - the Aprilia has a sportier riding position and makes you feel more at one with the bike, the suspension also feels much better! I liked both engines the same, couldn’t pick between for the roads both have heaps of power! With the KTM reliability wasn’t mentioned, my mate bought a brand new KTM 1290 and it got called back in 3 times in the first couple of months for electrical faults through summer so he gave it back! Really put me off owning one. It’s one thing thinking about which ones the most fun for a weekend hoon but another from an ownership/reliability and cost of up keep stand point! Keep up the great content! 🙌🙌🙌
This is the sort of comment we need more of. Pointless having a fun bike that's laid up at the dealers being fixed most of the summer
I've owned an MT10 for 7 years and 31,000 miles. It's been trouble free and amazing. It's the KTM reliability stories that put me off buying.
you F#@ked up on the chippy thing, best one is in Wetwang!! ask Bruce n Chopsie. did you pop see Boothy? looking forward to seeing him back on screen. Top vid lads, well done.
Bought a Tuono V4 last month. Absolutely in love with that machine. I think that the “naked” tag don’t fully apply to it. More a hyper/super sport bike with handlebars.
It’s a supersport with higher bars lol, I had a 2016 and the thing was mental. Enjoy it man good for you!
Agree. Thank you!!
Just put in 300 miles over the last two days on my new MT10. Got to say these S22 tyres are awesome. I'm going to order some more to put into storage so I can keep running them. Sods law, knowing my luck they will discontinue them just as I'm due new tyres, so I'm going to stock up on a couple of sets. They aren't silly expensive either.
I wouldn't be worried about availability 🤣 you can still get generations old BT016...
Fabulous insight into what's actually important and how these best in class machines deliver on that - Great review - Tuono is spectacular slicing thru bends at real pace and in real comfort thanks to superb electronic suspension - 80% sportbike 20% limousine - But Tuono is pretty clinical and still has hopeless old style complicated electronic interface (un-navigable menus etc) - KTMs controls are first class / State of the Art - Super intuitive - And its a riot to ride - No contest
You're saying you think the ktm wins without a doubt?
hi lads and hello from the Republic of Ireland. I enjoyed this video...unfortunately, I'm a short-arse...but I'm getting a 2021 Yamaha MT-07 tomorrow. A nice birthday present for myself. Happy days!
The "oooooohhhh yeaaaaah" even made my wife's ears perk up 🤣 great content as usual 👏
I guess the S1000R wasn’t available at the time of this being shot?
And why are Ducrapi funny about the 200/55 tyre?
Honda need to sling some flat bars on the blade and get involved. I’m so surprised the slightly older CB1000R wasn’t a massive success. It looks so cool !
Nice to see you guys up this way. You have ridden some of my favourite roads ✊✊
Miss a tuono, my only gripe was the horn button. The most amazing sounding bike on the planet with telepathic handling. Riding to Loomies will never be the same, maybe i should get another 🤣
Fantastic vid guys. Taking a Evo out Monday so 🤞🤞 Had a gen 2 until last year, suspension let it down if anything. I've ridden a gen 3 which was night and day better so already know I'm going to love the Evo.
A huge factor as well as the price in favour of the MT10 over the other two is reliability. It doesn't come up much in tests because most people have these bikes on PCP or HP. Totally agree about the brakes though. Surely Yamaha can make a better job of them. Regarding the standard suspension, it's possible to improve the factory settings which begs the question, why don't Yamaha send them out like that?
Playback speed set to 0.5 mixed with 20:47 part gets you a "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" vibe
Boothy, we love you and we miss you and we hope your recovery is coming apace. Cheers mate.
I sold my Tuono V4 and bought a Superduke because the Tuono was cramped and wasn't practical. Now I wish I still had my cramped, impractical, glorious scalpel-like V4.
"It's literally like the handlebars are controlling the front wheel!" - Where else could you go to get such perceptive, insightful motorcycling journalism? "...its like a waterboatman...on acid!" I mean c'mon!
Long live 44T!! God speed Boothy!! #44T
You missed the best road. Instead of turning right at Helmsley towards Pickering (where the bellend in the car was). Turn left and head north on the B1257 towards Stokesley. Locals call it the Stokesley TT 😁
As a 22 mt10 sp owner I can tell that the problems 44 teeth mentioned with the bike are still there. And at the time of my purchase I can have these 3 for pretty much the same price, but I still picked the mt for 1 reason, reliability. As a road bike the last thing I want would be a break down in the mid of nowhere.
You picked the right roads to test on, there's some great roads round there (and not a lot of cameras!).
Seeing your roads makes me appreciate ours. They look like touring in an alley.
Where do you live
MT-10 is awesome with a comfort seat and brake pad change. When buying I rode it back to back with the KTM, I couldn't see the value in paying so much more. Not to mention the KTM's electronic gremlins and gear shift selector so small I kept missing gear changes. The Aprilia is just way to small for larger people to be comfortable.
I don't know. I was so disappointed with the MT10 that I used to own the 2017 model.
The new model didn't address any issues for me, and they made the bike numb and not as fun as it used to be.
When I buy the flagship bike, I expect it to be complete. The seat is horrible, which makes the r1 feel like a goldwing.
The fuel is odd, and I didn't like the way it felt and handled. It was very lazy and heavy, and the riding position is more common with ADV bikes than with sporty nakeds.
If you are looking for a more budget-friendly option, the GSXS1000 and cb1000r are both better bikes than the Mt10 because they feel complete and perfectly good even in stock, and they handle much better.
I'm 6.4 and I own a 2019 Tuono 1100 and it fits me perfectly.
The new Tuono is more roomy and comfortable than previous models. I bought the standard model which has higher bars and a bigger more useful screen and ,oh and a dual seat with a grab rail. I am 6ft and it fits me really well. The engine and chassis is in a different league compared to the MT10. And the looks are miles better. Fit and finish again is far superior to the Yam. The Mt 10 is a good bike but is let down by the looks and finish and cheap switch gear in my opinion. The seat is also just nasty. I did look at new MT10 [in blue] but I am mighty glad I went with the Tuono.
Thank you !! three great bikes ridden in a brilliant part of the UK. More road trips like this please😃
I’d actually seen these guys at devils bridge when being filmed when delivering training.
Owning both the 2022 V4 Aprilia and KTM Evo. Hands down the KTM is now the better bike.
Aprilia, feels cheap and plastic. It handles so well but it doesn’t have the same build quality as the previous year. However it does handle better and the sound with the akra can and map is fab. But it’s dated!
The KTM add the akra titanium system at extra 2.5k and it’s brings out the inner child and is great town bike and smooth and a playful flickable toy as soon as your on some twisting roads. The Bluetooth connectivity links fab to your phone and intercom. No issues at all with the quick shifter etc, the performance pack is a must.
So the bike your spending 21k it’s then the supernaked it’s top of the tree.
It’s sublime, however I still track a Tuono!
Nice video chaps, appreciate the effort. I bought a 2019 Tuono factory partly due to your 2019 Tuono vid. Any bike that makes Fagan giggle that much has to be worth a look. Currently have a 2021 MT-10, just easier to tour on, and have a MT-10 SP on order. They're all cracking bikes but agree 100% that the Tuono is the "best" bike but not necessarily the bike you want.
Well I am following the near exact same path as you, I had the 2019 Tuono as well, in part thanks of the video. I've just sold it after 35000km and have ordered an MT-10SP. And again, yes, the Tuono is the best, but I simply had more fun on the MT-10 when testing it.
@@RutgerSmets Yes 100%. The Tuono is a bit too serious and precious. The MT-10 is up for a laugh and doesn't mind getting in to a pub fight with you 😄. Can't wait for the SP, I think the suspension will finish it off nicely as the standard suspension, especially at the rear, is a bit lacking.
the Tuono is really best as a second (or third) bike. cracking noise though!
@@lordgibbness This is true but it's an expensive toy. In many ways it's such a shame that it's so precious
Thanks fellas, great video as usual! Had the FZ10 , definitely a point and shooter, traded it for H2SX, which was nice but ,, traded that on a22 Hayabusa. No going back ! Smooth , quick and comfortable, well for me (6’2”) . Sublime quick shifter too . Take care , love every vid. Cheers to Gary being around .
Another excellent post! The old couple at 03:55 does make me ponder a bit though......
Great to see you up Norf and taking in the Stokesley to Helmsley ‘TT’ route.
Some cracking roads up here.
Great review boys...! I moved from a 2017 R1 to 2017 Ktm1290 sdr and don't regret it one bit...! Way more fun without mental speed...
Loved seeing you guys blasting round the roads I learnt to ride on.
Between the Speed triple RS at 14.1k, MT-10 at 12.3k, Super Duke Evo at 17.6k or the Tuono V4 non-factory at 14.1k which would you choose with the following criteria/info:
No track riding, mostly 2 and 4 lane roads (1 each way or 2 each way) good 60-120mph and having only 2 Aprilia dealers within a 2 hour ride away. I'm leaning towards the MT-10 and Speed Triple.
Ducati didn't want it tested on a 255 rear? Did I miss something there?
A 200/55 rear tire.
@@Lowfliers Yup, I missed something lol. I thought they were going to put a diavel rear on it or something :)
Riding like a Jeremy Hunt… topical! Great vid Gents!
Shot a few months ago when he was nothing 😂
@@FortyFourTeeth he,s still nothing !!!
@@FortyFourTeeth he’s still nothing 😂
You rode the wrong road over to Whitby, should’ve gone over the Castleton road, lots more smiles per mile, loads of crests and long sweepers
Excellent, I love these bikes. It's all about the road-riding and having fun, even on a track.
The prices are way up there for me, it's dream bikes; the Ape and the Duke.
44 teeth. I’ve never been disappointed in any of their content
Where in the hell is the Speed Triple 1200 guys.... FFS, VALIDATE MY PURCHASE!
Ahhhhh, I needed this today. Cheers lads!
In the USA, the Speed Triple is a strong contender. It's not easy to service Italian, and we're not liking KTM's sales direction. Weird looking "budget" MT-10 doesn't get a lot of love. But the reality almost everything here is either a cruiser or a sportsbike or a coffee fetching adventure bike. I don't really see any other supernakeds on the road.
Helmsley-malton-pickering- whitby... epic roadage. love seeing you guys bomb around my back yard 👌
Wow! My old stomping ground in the 90's up there. I am sorry you didn't go off piste onto the back roads because they are motorcycle heaven, and I was driving a tractor. Nice test and scenes and Garry. 🙂
Not gonna lie, Im Uber excited for this series
I enjoyed this.. I have a V4S at the moment, love it, but age is creeping up on me and my body has some wear and tear, so been thinking more and more about a naked bike.. For me it would be a choice between the Tuono or the the Super Duke...
Talking about the rear end looks and lights on a bike, zxRs from late 90s are sexy
One of my favourite features of the Gen 1 SDR is how agricultural it is. Aren't minor flaws character? I haven't taken a new one or an RR out yet but, just like fuel consumption, refinement isn't why you buy one.
Naw, flaws are flaws. But a flaw for one person maybe character to another. I also don't like super smooth motorcycle motors.
What a shame you didn't turn left at the mini roundabout in Helmsley.
If you had you would have been on the Stokesley TT route. Fabulous road for bikes!
Looks like they came form stokesly to Helmsley.
You know what guys, the thing about Rocky Roads is, it looks the same when it comes out as when it went in. Smells slightly different though........
Really good video lads! ❤
Just to say...besides the bikes, what stunning roads you found up there!
arent there twisty roads in this country?
Great content guys. My favourite place, Oliver Mount. Glad you liked Yorkshire
The bit about a 255 tyre on the V4 went right above my head.
200/55
Haven't even watched and I'm drooling over the title yes lads!
In my experience the previous gen of the Tuono (Akra + Race map), was way more of a pig around town than the previous gen 2 Superduke. I owned them both B2B and I bought the KTM for the smoothness. I found the Tuono imperfectly fuelled at low speeds and very hard to hold back. You fell in love with that noise and were doing stupid speeds, never really scratching that itch (if you had any consideration for your licence). I can keep the Superduke more sensible and get my kicks from the torque like I’ve never gotten from any bike before. The live front end and madness of the Torque is just intoxicating. Fantastic video guys. Love it as always. ❤
I found them to be the opposite but I have a 2016 TV41100F and have only ridden the 2015 SDR. I couldn't buy that and have stayed out of jail. The Tuono is quick but I know I am moving when I am going fast. The SDR had little sensation of speed. The Euro 3 Tuono is better fueled and has a much easier throttle to modulate than the Euro 4 Tuono (friend has a 2020 and it's quite sloppy). Not sure about the E5 Tuono as I haven't ridden one yet. I like that they finally did something about the lighting which sucks on the older bike.
I have another friend with a gen 2 SDR he built up nicely but he moved away before I got to ride it so hopefully I can check it out some day.
@@saisr1 the Gen 2 superduke is far smoother than the gen 1. Everyone’s perception and appreciation of a bike is different. That’s what’s so great about them.
It’s always great to see a Little Britain reunion show. Good stuff. 👍🤪🇨🇦
I ride 3 of them and owned RSV4-RF & KTM SDRR ….. KTM SDRR is most fun and exciting to ride on road or track ! 🥳
I love Chris's comments on the MT10. I too am a Yamaha fan boy but today I picked up my gen 2 Superduke R and parked it next to my BMW S1000R. So here we are. Yamaha need to move up
I love these shootouts and it's actually quite amazing that you get a hold on these bikes while every dealer is running low on stock (atleast over here in the Netherlands). Adding the S1000R, 1200RS and the V4 SF (if they're not being lil' bitches about the tyres) would really spice things up. I'm very curious about the conclusion with the 'full pack' of Super Nakeds.
Then again, this is great. You guys always make me smile, almost as much as the nice lady does at @3:58
You guys! (said with a Swedish accent).... only you lot would find a way of parking up on the tip of Wetwang 🤣
Can we have a tour or BBB that is dedicated to places with the double entendre?!
Great work as always lads 👊🏻
Own a 1290 SDR, and have ridden my buddy's MT10. It feels very Japanese in the feel fit and finish, but i just want to get back on my KTM every time we switch.