Lovely Ep. I can never understand Chipping or remapping a Motor, My Old 1990- 1HZ n/a 80 series is GVM upgraded but I only tow around 1300kg max with the 4wd loaded with all the fam in it on holidays. Even though the 4wd can tow 2ton with it fully loaded I never go that high.
Great topic mate, again, and love how you set up and introduced it. I hardly bother these days, reading forums and things like that any more, because most of the people responding to questions, come out with, "I dont have one but my mate has and blah blah blah"..... I'm not sure why they even bother to comment. Get friggen annoying sifting through the shit... I personally dont have these DPF issues, another reason I love my 80.... But I have plenty of other problems....😜😁
@@SmartTouringSystems I only have one mate with a brand new 79 who is about to do the DPF delete and tune, I'll keep you posted if something happens there...👍
I have a 200 series LandCruiser chopped into a dual cab ute with second stage in manufacturing sticker and gvm upgrade had it insured with NRMA for 5 years then they didn't want to honour the chop anymore so I've gone to Amy worked out better anyway because of insured for more and cheaper per year and now I've got it engineered with 35 inch tyres as well
It would be good if manufacturers could build vehicles that were practical out of the showroom, or at least offerupgrade options but I guess Australia is a very small market and it is not feasible
Regarding warranties.. Clutch went in the 79 at about 30k and Toyota wouldn't do anything under warranty due to the 3" Exhaust...No remap at that stage. Said the extra power made the clutch slip my arse! The 3" didn't make an once of difference to power/fuel etc. that i noticed. Now insurance...rolled the 79 had 315's (is legal i guess) and all the general mod's. Full repair no questions asked...even replaced 2 rims' and tyres. No vehicle weighing or anything. Just went to the repairer who quoted it and discussed with the assessor whether to repair or not.
Bit late to the party, but i can answer from an insurance side (working at an un named insurance comapny that did an ad about charter boats) a dpf delete would 100% be grounds to deny a claim if it was found. Also, any form of aftermarket turbo or supercharger and no insurance for you, can only be a replacement oem style one. As for a engine remap, no problems there, same with a lift kit or any other mods like that. And with this insurer (cant confirm with others) only need to tell us about mods that affect performance, safety or need a mod plate. Basically, if its road legal, it wont affect your insurance premiums / excess as this specific insurer. With the caveat of you're only allowed 1 performance enhancing mod when you're under 25, so you get an enlarged exhaust and a remap and bam no insurance. However technically a free flowing exhaust with the same diameter wouldn't be an issue in the aforementioned hypothetical case.
Hi mate. I went to my local 4x4 adventure show and crawled under all of the 70 series at the show. I have a 70 series on order and wanted to see what actually gets done in the real world and not just what happens on UA-cam. I found 75% of the post 2016 70 series land cruisers (that should have a DPF) had their DPF removed. Including the vehicles on display at the two of the diesel tuners display booth's who were exhibiting and they were also open to talk about it and quote me on a delete + tune. I think its more common than a lot of people realise.
Yes this is exactly the attitude I’ve seen, makes you wonder why they recommend it, as it would only take one customer to have a bad experience and next minute they are on one of those 59 or 61 minute affair shows 😂
2024 N80 HiLux. I'll be deleting my DPF and getting the EGR turned off once my warranty period is over. In the meantime I have fitted a catch can and a 13mm blanking plate.
Not quite sure I would have a issue with warranty with my dual 79 with GVM upgrade to 3950 as the Toyota dealer organised upgrade! Before registration & delivery. This is the law in QLD engineer secondary modification plates. Upgraded brake booster also before rego which also have engineer secondary modification. I have an accident & no issue with insurance. As far as Toyota warranty - I would challenge them legally if they nulled my warranty as the final price included the above modifications.
Got fined for DPF removal , 3inch lift and 315 tyres on a 2017 79 dual cab , my fault , have learnt and a costly experience.. now have a 2023 dual cab 79 an let’s just say the DPF will remain in the vehicle 😅
Your the winner mate👏 first one to actually talk about a first hand experience, although not a great outcome for you , thanks heaps for sharing. Fill out a contact form on our website and I’ll send you a hat for your troubles. www.smarttouringsystems.com.au Comments like this will help us all understand what is happening out in the real world away from the keyboard 😉
@@SmartTouringSystems I bloody never win anything 😂 champion mate . Very much appreciated and I agree .. there has to be more people out there with similar experiences
I got most of my mods done on my Triton after warranty anyway so I can't comment from that side of things. I have since gotten a suspension upgrade to give me a bit more ground clearance and to help with towing my small van. Apparently it was the same kit (Pedders brand) as a GVM upgrade. I just haven't bothered paying for the engineer's signature as my ute could already tow the weights of my trailers legally. The upgrade just helped with the ride. I still get my car serviced at the dealer but they said the mods were no problem, even if I was still in warranty. I am planning on checking out a Steinbauer power module rather than a remap, in an effort to get just a bit more grunt out of my engine. Once again, my dealer's service department had no issue with this. As for the DPF, that's above my pay grade 🤪 so I'll just leave it in and stay legal. 🙂
I had my MU-X GVM upgraded by a reputable suspension company which is engineered so I see no issues with that, in Victoria you can't do a GCM upgrade so it's all about weight distribution. (When towing caravan) Personally I'm a fan of piggyback ECU'S with different types of tunes, towing, normal, get the f#$k out of here and can also turn it off, with a reputable installer and couple of dyno runs later all sweet and can select what tune I want suited too my use of the car, 4WD or towing or just cruising. DPF definitely needs to stay for legal reasons.
I have Lovells 4.2t gvm upgrade, 2021 79 series,it’s signed off by engineer, he now warranties it over Toyota. Unichip by Dynamotive, they also Warranty the modification. Very simple, pay the right money for a professional with warranty. Poor man pays twice! Dpf still in car, that’s a legal requirement!
Given that Toyota will not help people who have had their V8s dusted because of Toyota's bad air filter box design, I wouldn't expect them to help on any vehicle that has been modified. Removing a DPF is illegal and makes the car unroadworthy. Insurance companies only insure cars that are roadworthy. They will not insure or pay out on a car that is unroadworthy. It is pretty black and white from that - no coverage. GVM/GCM (and dyno tuning) upgrades technically void the manufacturer's warranty as it is then assumed by the manufacturer that you are using the vehicle outside their design constraints/ specifications. Although the GVM/GCM would meet legal requirements, it would not matter if you were under your vehicle's original GVM all the time (then why upgrade?), the manufacturer will see the upgrade as evidence that it is being operated outside their specifications and there is no way you can prove definitively that you were operating only within the manufacturer's specifications any time after the modification. If the manufacturer wants to use it as an excuse to not honour a warranty claim for anything that fails, there is little a person can do, and it is highly likely that the courts would side with the manufacturer on that. It would only be the goodwill of the dealer who is prepared to take the financial hit that might get something done under warranty. As for the companies that sell these products claiming no effect on manufacturer's warranty, I would take that with a grain of salt. They might warrant their springs and shock absorbers, but I bet they would be quick to disavow damage to the vehicle chassis (or engine) as a result of their products - it would have to be explicitly in writing that they were prepared to either take over the manufacturer's warranty coverage or provide their own warranty for the rest of the vehicle - and I bet they would not offer that.
Over the long weekend I was pulled over in to a roadside Random breath/drug testing stop and one officer was checking tail pipes on newer 4x4 with a white glove 🧤if they were black they started checking for mods apparently for the owners its a $2K fine
@@SmartTouringSystems they were also measuring the distance from the bottom of the mud flaps to the ground it has to be 30 cm or less . Trips up some guys with big lifts and wheels 🛞
New Zealand. I enquired about a high flow dpf with a 4 inch turbo back exhaust. Got told it would have to be tuned, but decided against it as safari Armax package already installed. Kept dpf.
Easy answer is that modifications are warranted by the modifier. Got a tune and the engine blows? Warranted by the tuner. Put disc brakes into the rear axle of a PXIII Ranger and they fail? Warranted by the installer; the list goes on. Read the fine print before you modify. All of my mods are warranted, even if the vehicle is chased to destruction. Shannons and Club 4x 4 will chase a modifier if the vehicle fails or burns to the ground. That said, if, say, Ford, has a known issue and is chased to destruction, then Ford is free to argue with the insurance company and the modifier. DPF delete? It's 'possible' in the ACT for almost forever and other States and Territories for five years.
Any tuning company that says it doesn't void the warranty is full of shit. Every car company will throw you under the bus when you modify your vehicle. That's just the facts, if they can find a way out they will.
The key before any mods or tunes is to know exactly what you are covered for if anything goes wrong. No matter what you do moving a car away from spec can make it less reliable and on the 200 page there is a constant stream of posts regarding mods throwing codes. Suspension mods seem to be safe but engine tunes can flog out injectors early and cause other problems along the line. Knowing if you got a good tune is the challenge. EGR blanking solves one problem but causes other problems and switching off the ability of the ECU to throw codes about it is dumb. Trans remaps to hold gears instead of changing back to a lower gear means that turbo temp greatly increase. We all have opinions but changing one part of a car will always have a knock on effect. Travelling and towing around the country you need to have your car super reliable. As mentioned on the 200 page there is no mention of failures from close to stock cars but there are posts all the time from poor tunes, trans remap codes so you need to know that while a reliable tune is good but most are done by people who have no idea of the knock on effect it has on other components. My 200 has a DP Chip that provides a safe increase in power and torque done by a company that has been in business 60 years and keeps the factory map and safe for touring and towing. Regarding warranty then do mods at your peril and don't cry when Toyota just shows you the door.
@@SmartTouringSystems People make warranties a grey area but it is really black and white. The Ozzy she'll be right is the down fall of many who want to risk warranty conditions.
It’s not that hard most tuners have your original tune go back to them reload the original if you have engine issue then go to Toyota for warranty they don’t know if you’ve had a remap simple it’s happened to a friend of a friend of mine 😂😂😂
There are a number of points that I can shed some light on , please forgive the dot point approach: 1) it is not only totally illegal to remove your DPF you also need to be concerned about NOX, you can put a high flow DPF in but this requires a full exhaust upgrade ,intake upgrade and a retune . 2 obvious problems with this solution is the cost and it will void your warranty. 2) just upgrading your tyre size will void your drivetrain warranty- ( firsthand experience) 3) There is no such thing as a GCM upgrade unless you have not only strengthened your chassis/ upgraded your axle loadings and Differentials/ drivetrain- very common misunderstanding-this also will void your warranty unless the work is completed by a recognised 2nd stage manufacturer and their warranty covers said modifications. 4) A GVM upgrade is tricky if not done prior too registration of said vehicle-if done after registration you could have issues with sale price and compliance if you sell the vehicle out of the state you modified the GVM, you will have issues with insurance ( I know of only 1 insurance company that will cover modifications but there is a big caveat on the policy ( you need too provide copies and all certified documentation proving the upgrade was not only done by a 2nd stage manufacturer but there is a a ADR placard affixed to your vehicle and your tow hitch also has the relevant tow and ball rating equivalent to your new upgrade) sadly again this will also void your new car warranty. 5) Sadly a retune/ re- chip will certainly void your warranty even though most retunes to date are more focused on transmission shift points as well as a smoother power/ torque configuration. 6) A very important modification that will not void your warranty is a secondary bypass oil filter( this system will take a significant amount of carbon / soot out of your oil as well as reducing the amount of fuel dilution caused by blow by ,the advantage of this filter system is cleaner oil and less fowling of exhaust valves/ turbo and significant reduction of DPF cycling.( I stress I am not peddling this system ) it is up to the discretion of the individuals 7)The sad fact of the matter is if it is not offered my the manufacturer then you are going to have warranty issues if the dealer feels inclined to take a hard stand on the claim. 8) The point I find very frustrating is when there is a manufacturers known issue they are either very slow too acknowledge the problem/ issue or it takes a legal action too get any form of resolution to the problem. Point in question is the current issue plaguing the LC300 and the excessive oil consumption and significant heat sync issue occurring in the valley of the V6 diesel engine- Toyota are fully aware of the issue but to date have not done anything about it other than issue a service bulletin stating that the instead of 20K service intervals if “:customers have a problem suggest to them to bring their vehicle in for a service” in other words the recommended service interval is false and the excessive use of oil will ultimately make the engine fail due to over carbonation of valves/ GVT and blockage of the DPF. I sincerely hope both yourself and other people reading this do not take what I have stated as a rant, for the information I have provided is 100% factual and I hope it helps people out.
I hope it helps, people spend a lot of money on just purchasing their vehicles let alone being seduced by aftermarket companies ( promising/ promoting ) their products without being completely transparent to the prospective customer/s.
Try and get a roadworthy after removing DPF. A very good mate unfortunately let his rego slip, got pulled over, got fined & impounded the vehicle. Everything he paid to get removed DPF, etc. Had to buy again and refit to get it though his roadworthy. 😂
I'm looking at getting my Prado a GVM/GCM upgrade. This has got me thinking now. Love your work mate. Great topic.
Cheers mate, good luck with it it’s a hard decision.
Lovely Ep. I can never understand Chipping or remapping a Motor, My Old 1990- 1HZ n/a 80 series is GVM upgraded but I only tow around 1300kg max with the 4wd loaded with all the fam in it on holidays. Even though the 4wd can tow 2ton with it fully loaded I never go that high.
Yeah, I’m guilty as charged for modifying mate.
Great topic mate, again, and love how you set up and introduced it. I hardly bother these days, reading forums and things like that any more, because most of the people responding to questions, come out with, "I dont have one but my mate has and blah blah blah"..... I'm not sure why they even bother to comment. Get friggen annoying sifting through the shit... I personally dont have these DPF issues, another reason I love my 80.... But I have plenty of other problems....😜😁
Yeah out of all the comments, I had one guy say first hand they got fined for no dpf
@@SmartTouringSystems I only have one mate with a brand new 79 who is about to do the DPF delete and tune, I'll keep you posted if something happens there...👍
I have a 200 series LandCruiser chopped into a dual cab ute with second stage in manufacturing sticker and gvm upgrade had it insured with NRMA for 5 years then they didn't want to honour the chop anymore so I've gone to Amy worked out better anyway because of insured for more and cheaper per year and now I've got it engineered with 35 inch tyres as well
What a great discussion
Thanks mate.
It would be good if manufacturers could build vehicles that were practical out of the showroom, or at least offerupgrade options but I guess Australia is a very small market and it is not feasible
🤔 answers will be interesting, along with tuning for power there is all the EGR plates, cable and switching off in the ecu 🫣
Yeah there are a lot of common mods that in theory can become a problem down the track.
Regarding warranties.. Clutch went in the 79 at about 30k and Toyota wouldn't do anything under warranty due to the 3" Exhaust...No remap at that stage. Said the extra power made the clutch slip my arse! The 3" didn't make an once of difference to power/fuel etc. that i noticed. Now insurance...rolled the 79 had 315's (is legal i guess) and all the general mod's. Full repair no questions asked...even replaced 2 rims' and tyres. No vehicle weighing or anything. Just went to the repairer who quoted it and discussed with the assessor whether to repair or not.
This is the first hand stuff, that will help all.
Get in touch through www.smarttouringsystems.com.au and I will send you a hat for the effort. 🍻
@@SmartTouringSystems Appreciate the offer...thankyou!
I had the turbo replaced by Toyota under warranty - was tuned and DPF delete - no questions asked by Toyota - why is there an issue??
Bit late to the party, but i can answer from an insurance side (working at an un named insurance comapny that did an ad about charter boats) a dpf delete would 100% be grounds to deny a claim if it was found. Also, any form of aftermarket turbo or supercharger and no insurance for you, can only be a replacement oem style one.
As for a engine remap, no problems there, same with a lift kit or any other mods like that. And with this insurer (cant confirm with others) only need to tell us about mods that affect performance, safety or need a mod plate.
Basically, if its road legal, it wont affect your insurance premiums / excess as this specific insurer. With the caveat of you're only allowed 1 performance enhancing mod when you're under 25, so you get an enlarged exhaust and a remap and bam no insurance. However technically a free flowing exhaust with the same diameter wouldn't be an issue in the aforementioned hypothetical case.
Thanks for adding to the conversation mate.
Hi mate. I went to my local 4x4 adventure show and crawled under all of the 70 series at the show. I have a 70 series on order and wanted to see what actually gets done in the real world and not just what happens on UA-cam. I found 75% of the post 2016 70 series land cruisers (that should have a DPF) had their DPF removed. Including the vehicles on display at the two of the diesel tuners display booth's who were exhibiting and they were also open to talk about it and quote me on a delete + tune. I think its more common than a lot of people realise.
Yes this is exactly the attitude I’ve seen, makes you wonder why they recommend it, as it would only take one customer to have a bad experience and next minute they are on one of those 59 or 61 minute affair shows 😂
@@SmartTouringSystems yeah mate I dont quite understand the attitude towards it. Seems incredibly risky from a business point of view
2024 N80 HiLux. I'll be deleting my DPF and getting the EGR turned off once my warranty period is over. In the meantime I have fitted a catch can and a 13mm blanking plate.
Not quite sure I would have a issue with warranty with my dual 79 with GVM upgrade to 3950 as the Toyota dealer organised upgrade! Before registration & delivery. This is the law in QLD engineer secondary modification plates. Upgraded brake booster also before rego which also have engineer secondary modification. I have an accident & no issue with insurance. As far as Toyota warranty - I would challenge them legally if they nulled my warranty as the final price included the above modifications.
Thanks for an excellent comment and a great point. Def worth a thought about dealer delivered mods.
Got fined for DPF removal , 3inch lift and 315 tyres on a 2017 79 dual cab , my fault , have learnt and a costly experience.. now have a 2023 dual cab 79 an let’s just say the DPF will remain in the vehicle 😅
Your the winner mate👏 first one to actually talk about a first hand experience, although not a great outcome for you , thanks heaps for sharing. Fill out a contact form on our website and I’ll send you a hat for your troubles. www.smarttouringsystems.com.au
Comments like this will help us all understand what is happening out in the real world away from the keyboard 😉
@@SmartTouringSystems I bloody never win anything 😂 champion mate . Very much appreciated and I agree .. there has to be more people out there with similar experiences
@@harryridley2714 no dramas just let me know what colour your after in the contact form and an address.
@@harryridley2714 would you be willing to enlighten us on what your fine cost you relating to your dpf removal? Cheers
Should be coring the dpf out and reinstalling it, it’s only illegal if they can see it’s been removed.
wheel deal !!! new sticker on the door and in the intro....
Well spotted. 👍🏼 keep your eyes peeled for the next Lance ep.
Ready ! Have just sat down with a bag of popcorn :)
I hope it sparks a good conversation 👍🏼
as soon as warranty over did DPF and EGR, been 3 years with no issues.
Thanks for the taking the time to comment mate.
I got most of my mods done on my Triton after warranty anyway so I can't comment from that side of things. I have since gotten a suspension upgrade to give me a bit more ground clearance and to help with towing my small van. Apparently it was the same kit (Pedders brand) as a GVM upgrade. I just haven't bothered paying for the engineer's signature as my ute could already tow the weights of my trailers legally. The upgrade just helped with the ride. I still get my car serviced at the dealer but they said the mods were no problem, even if I was still in warranty. I am planning on checking out a Steinbauer power module rather than a remap, in an effort to get just a bit more grunt out of my engine. Once again, my dealer's service department had no issue with this. As for the DPF, that's above my pay grade 🤪 so I'll just leave it in and stay legal. 🙂
Well there you go, maybe get something in writing off them. Thanks bet they won’t do that. Cheers for the comment.
@@SmartTouringSystems Yes, everything was only a verbal, "Yes, that's no problem," comment. Would probably change if I asked for it in writing. 😋
@@Foolish_Paul_Australia yes that’s what happens.
I had my MU-X GVM upgraded by a reputable suspension company which is engineered so I see no issues with that, in Victoria you can't do a GCM upgrade so it's all about weight distribution. (When towing caravan) Personally I'm a fan of piggyback ECU'S with different types of tunes, towing, normal, get the f#$k out of here and can also turn it off, with a reputable installer and couple of dyno runs later all sweet and can select what tune I want suited too my use of the car, 4WD or towing or just cruising. DPF definitely needs to stay for legal reasons.
Cheers for the comment. And being a Isuzu chances are it’ll go for a very long time without issue.
I have Lovells 4.2t gvm upgrade, 2021 79 series,it’s signed off by engineer, he now warranties it over Toyota. Unichip by Dynamotive, they also Warranty the modification. Very simple, pay the right money for a professional with warranty. Poor man pays twice! Dpf still in car, that’s a legal requirement!
Thanks for you comment 👍🏼
Thanks for you comment 👍🏼
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Given that Toyota will not help people who have had their V8s dusted because of Toyota's bad air filter box design, I wouldn't expect them to help on any vehicle that has been modified.
Removing a DPF is illegal and makes the car unroadworthy. Insurance companies only insure cars that are roadworthy. They will not insure or pay out on a car that is unroadworthy. It is pretty black and white from that - no coverage.
GVM/GCM (and dyno tuning) upgrades technically void the manufacturer's warranty as it is then assumed by the manufacturer that you are using the vehicle outside their design constraints/ specifications. Although the GVM/GCM would meet legal requirements, it would not matter if you were under your vehicle's original GVM all the time (then why upgrade?), the manufacturer will see the upgrade as evidence that it is being operated outside their specifications and there is no way you can prove definitively that you were operating only within the manufacturer's specifications any time after the modification. If the manufacturer wants to use it as an excuse to not honour a warranty claim for anything that fails, there is little a person can do, and it is highly likely that the courts would side with the manufacturer on that. It would only be the goodwill of the dealer who is prepared to take the financial hit that might get something done under warranty.
As for the companies that sell these products claiming no effect on manufacturer's warranty, I would take that with a grain of salt. They might warrant their springs and shock absorbers, but I bet they would be quick to disavow damage to the vehicle chassis (or engine) as a result of their products - it would have to be explicitly in writing that they were prepared to either take over the manufacturer's warranty coverage or provide their own warranty for the rest of the vehicle - and I bet they would not offer that.
I agree with everything you have said mate. It will be interesting to hear first hand accounts.
Over the long weekend I was pulled over in to a roadside Random breath/drug testing stop and one officer was checking tail pipes on newer 4x4 with a white glove 🧤if they were black they started checking for mods apparently for the owners its a $2K fine
So it does happen.
@@SmartTouringSystems they were also measuring the distance from the bottom of the mud flaps to the ground it has to be 30 cm or less . Trips up some guys with big lifts and wheels 🛞
I also wanna hear who has gotten a high-flow dpf system and the results 🤔
Yes, great point as it would be interesting to see if there is actually such a thing.
@Smart Touring Systems gslfab have 1.. It's about 4.5k for the system I think it was
New Zealand. I enquired about a high flow dpf with a 4 inch turbo back exhaust.
Got told it would have to be tuned, but decided against it as safari Armax package already installed. Kept dpf.
@@LyfovRyan51 yea I got a quote for the high-flown setup and tune like u said. Was pretty eye watering..
Easy answer is that modifications are warranted by the modifier.
Got a tune and the engine blows? Warranted by the tuner.
Put disc brakes into the rear axle of a PXIII Ranger and they fail? Warranted by the installer; the list goes on.
Read the fine print before you modify.
All of my mods are warranted, even if the vehicle is chased to destruction. Shannons and Club 4x 4 will chase a modifier if the vehicle fails or burns to the ground. That said, if, say, Ford, has a known issue and is chased to destruction, then Ford is free to argue with the insurance company and the modifier.
DPF delete? It's 'possible' in the ACT for almost forever and other States and Territories for five years.
Thanks for the comment mate. What do you mean that the dpf is possible to be deleted ?
@@SmartTouringSystems cut off, blown out and reattached.
@@stuartkcalvinMate, you pull the guts out of your DPF, anyone can... but that doesn't make it legal to do so.....
@@Croozzen correct
Any tuning company that says it doesn't void the warranty is full of shit. Every car company will throw you under the bus when you modify your vehicle. That's just the facts, if they can find a way out they will.
I tend to agree.
If your car is tuned and blows up it’s the tuner problem not yours 🍻🍻
Hopefully mate, I agree.
It should be the tuners problem but I'll tell you that you wouldn't want it to happen because at the end it will be your problem
@@troopy7834 check with your tuner mine is is responsible not Toyota
The key before any mods or tunes is to know exactly what you are covered for if anything goes wrong. No matter what you do moving a car away from spec can make it less reliable and on the 200 page there is a constant stream of posts regarding mods throwing codes. Suspension mods seem to be safe but engine tunes can flog out injectors early and cause other problems along the line. Knowing if you got a good tune is the challenge. EGR blanking solves one problem but causes other problems and switching off the ability of the ECU to throw codes about it is dumb. Trans remaps to hold gears instead of changing back to a lower gear means that turbo temp greatly increase. We all have opinions but changing one part of a car will always have a knock on effect. Travelling and towing around the country you need to have your car super reliable. As mentioned on the 200 page there is no mention of failures from close to stock cars but there are posts all the time from poor tunes, trans remap codes so you need to know that while a reliable tune is good but most are done by people who have no idea of the knock on effect it has on other components. My 200 has a DP Chip that provides a safe increase in power and torque done by a company that has been in business 60 years and keeps the factory map and safe for touring and towing. Regarding warranty then do mods at your peril and don't cry when Toyota just shows you the door.
Yes there seems to be a lot of grey area in this topic. thanks for taking the time to comment.
@@SmartTouringSystems People make warranties a grey area but it is really black and white. The Ozzy she'll be right is the down fall of many who want to risk warranty conditions.
@@zoezoe610 yes I think your right mate.
It’s not that hard most tuners have your original tune go back to them reload the original if you have engine issue then go to Toyota for warranty they don’t know if you’ve had a remap simple it’s happened to a friend of a friend of mine 😂😂😂
@@toddoxenbridge3715 I don't want an issue when remote. you can't take that risk out there.
There are a number of points that I can shed some light on , please forgive the dot point approach:
1) it is not only totally illegal to remove your DPF you also need to be concerned about NOX, you can put a high flow DPF in but this requires a full exhaust upgrade ,intake upgrade and a retune . 2 obvious problems with this solution is the cost and it will void your warranty.
2) just upgrading your tyre size will void your drivetrain warranty- ( firsthand experience)
3) There is no such thing as a GCM upgrade unless you have not only strengthened your chassis/ upgraded your axle loadings and Differentials/ drivetrain- very common misunderstanding-this also will void your warranty unless the work is completed by a recognised 2nd stage manufacturer and their warranty covers said modifications.
4) A GVM upgrade is tricky if not done prior too registration of said vehicle-if done after registration you could have issues with sale price and compliance if you sell the vehicle out of the state you modified the GVM, you will have issues with insurance ( I know of only 1 insurance company that will cover modifications but there is a big caveat on the policy ( you need too provide copies and all certified documentation proving the upgrade was not only done by a 2nd stage manufacturer but there is a a ADR placard affixed to your vehicle and your tow hitch also has the relevant tow and ball rating equivalent to your new upgrade) sadly again this will also void your new car warranty.
5) Sadly a retune/ re- chip will certainly void your warranty even though most retunes to date are more focused on transmission shift points as well as a smoother power/ torque configuration.
6) A very important modification that will not void your warranty is a secondary bypass oil filter( this system will take a significant amount of carbon / soot out of your oil as well as reducing the amount of fuel dilution caused by blow by ,the advantage of this filter system is cleaner oil and less fowling of exhaust valves/ turbo and significant reduction of DPF cycling.( I stress I am not peddling this system ) it is up to the discretion of the individuals
7)The sad fact of the matter is if it is not offered my the manufacturer then you are going to have warranty issues if the dealer feels inclined to take a hard stand on the claim.
8) The point I find very frustrating is when there is a manufacturers known issue they are either very slow too acknowledge the problem/ issue or it takes a legal action too get any form of resolution to the problem. Point in question is the current issue plaguing the LC300 and the excessive oil consumption and significant heat sync issue occurring in the valley of the V6 diesel engine- Toyota are fully aware of the issue but to date have not done anything about it other than issue a service bulletin stating that the instead of 20K service intervals if “:customers have a problem suggest to them to bring their vehicle in for a service” in other words the recommended service interval is false and the excessive use of oil will ultimately make the engine fail due to over carbonation of valves/ GVT and blockage of the DPF.
I sincerely hope both yourself and other people reading this do not take what I have stated as a rant, for the information I have provided is 100% factual and I hope it helps people out.
Very well written response mate, thanks so much for taking the time.
I hope it helps, people spend a lot of money on just purchasing their vehicles let alone being seduced by aftermarket companies ( promising/ promoting ) their products without being completely transparent to the prospective customer/s.
Try and get a roadworthy after removing DPF. A very good mate unfortunately let his rego slip, got pulled over, got fined & impounded the vehicle. Everything he paid to get removed DPF, etc. Had to buy again and refit to get it though his roadworthy. 😂
Ouch, expensive.