I'm not talented
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6 hours a day, there's your problem. It's 40 hours a day, mate.
69 hours a day, 8 days a week.
😂
acthally over 2 hour of practice can mess up your goal and things , best practice time is 40 min to 1 hour and 30 min
twoset reference
@@Kaden_BASS_noobI feel like practise times are something very subjective To every person.
Whenever someone says "Oh, he's just naturally gifted", I have to shake my head. To make such a claim is to belittle the dedication, determination, hard work, and practice it took to become so good.
Attributing something to talent is an easy way to handwave your own laziness away.
No need for dedication when you can just gaslight yourself into thinking that you weren't born with what it takes when all it takes is, well, dedication - and time obviously.
that. I always feel like it's almost an insult to say "you are so talented omg". Just like you said, it makes it look like it came all by itself, while in reality its a lot of hard work to get there.
It's also the excuse of many to not start something... "oh I lack the talent, I won't get anywhere". Yeah right, with that mindset, you won't.
I just want people here to realize this man is a liar and does have a natural talent.it is an unhealthy mindset to think that practice alone can make you great it will not.we all need to understand that natural ability plays a huge role as does practice.
@@SENATORPAIN1 That's simply not true. Talent is developed. The god-given portion is the mindset, drive, focus, and determination.
@@johncrafton8319 no that is simply untrue
6 hours a day.... after 2 hours learning, my brain is cooked. Respect...
Two hours learning is like a new runner doing 2 miles. It's your foundation. No, you don't have the foundation to practice 6 hours a day yet just like a new runner isn't ready to do 10 miles.
Appreciate your foundation and most importantly, keep making the playing, learning, and practice fascinating and not a chore.
@@carpediemarts705 So much what you said. I think when you first start on a instrument where actually making a sound is tricky at first, 15 minutes per day is where to start. When you get to the point where you naturally can productively do more, you then have that option. When two hours doesn't cook your brain, step it up, but if you are at that point, you'll probably found you've been playing for 3 hours without noticing. Having said that I've never got the point where 6 made any sense to me, not a pro.
it comes with time, it works exactly the same as a muscle (so does your ability to recall information like music theory, its called recall training. we're a lot better at recall training than pets .. lol )
try rocksmith but only if you practice music theory outside of it
oh wait...rocksmith 2014 is removed by ubisoft
Nobody said you need to do 6 hours straight. You can rest, and play again later
@@gremblebeanyeah, 6hrs of practice seems only necessary if either : 1- your "warm up routine" itself takes over 1 to 2 hours... 2- you're preparing/rehearsing a live set of roughly 1hour total, or multiple ones for different shows...
(Or maybe 3- your student training is equivalent to practicing a live set, every week...😨)
I've been saying the same thing about Charles and other musicians for a while now when enthusiastic fans see the finished product of thousands of hours of work and rave ,"SO TALENTED".
I'd like to see Charles or any other accomplished musician doing a 3 hour live stream of plain woodshedding. Half an hour of scales and warmups with all of the errors, bored looks, playing a learning piece 20x with the breakdowns, slow pieces etc. Getting good is a list of thousands of boring moments.
People look at my visual art and tell me Im a genius and I say no Im not. Im not even really good at what I do. I just bothered to do the work and I get the positive comments on finished work and not the boring, dirty, broken, uninspired moments of work. Anything goid takes time and work. Hence the Work Charles is doing behind the scenes to get people to do the real work through his lessons.
What I especially like is that those people never listen to YOU. They think you are so good, but they give a f about your own evaluation, that is very very likely to be way more informed and valid than theirs.
This is modesty. I've actually seen the Hard Work vs Hard Work + Talent comparison play out in real life in front of me, numerous times. Bear with me as I promise to eventually get to my point:
I went to a music school in Leningrad, Soviet Union. We're not talking about "piano classes". We're talking about a grueling schedule, 4 classes across 6 nights every week - Music Theory, Music History, Choir, and Instrument. That's before music school homework and instrument practice at home (3-5 hrs a day). It wasn't easy to get into the school, and as such, there were no "bad students". Not doing homework for any of these classes, not practicing the required 3-5hrs a day - these weren't options. Hard work was the only option.
Everyone at this school could absolutely shred the classics on their instrument. Everyone had every bit of music history that was drilled into us, memorized. Choir was more or less the easy class for everyone. However, because Music Theory class was about 50% composition, that was where you could tell the difference between just hard work, and hard work + natural talent. Again - we all had the same information memorized, we all put in the requisite study and practice hours, we were all amazing at playing the classics, but ask us to compose something, and you can pretty much pick out the kids with music in their respective gene pools. Those of us with little or no natural talent would spend the whole week between music theory classes, toiling over what would eventually turn out to be a mediocre recycling of things we'd learned to play, while those of us with obvious natural musical inclination would often just scribble stuff down in the subway on the way to the class where it was due and get a high score, in contrast to the mid and low scores awarded to the equally hard working students who just didn't have talent.
It's the same in athletics, btw. Work as hard as you want, but at the top of every weight class there's a genetic freak whose mother was an olympic runner and whose father was Zeus, and you're not getting near what that guy can do, no matter how hard you work. And any honest coach will tell you this.
This is fascinating, my friend. How many did you have when you attended this school? Would you say the Soviet Union had a good musician program?
@ernestofamorim For me, it was 5-6 years, from the age of 7 to 13. Soviet education was superior all around. It was superior at the price of many a childhood, but it was superior.
Hm, kind of funny, because I was the guy that was way better at composing than the others, but until today, my playing sucks. And this "Just scribble stuff down in the subway": Well, I trained my brain to constantly produce music, which it does until today. I kind of practice composing everytime I don`t do anything else that requires focus. So people always assumed I would not do anything and just do stuff out of nowhere.
Well, then I got called talented, got lazy and didn`t make it in the end. No career.
Lastly, I am not a bass-player and I don`t know the average skill-level and the point of spend efford where charles is. I assume he knows better than me, so if he says he`s not that talented I would assume that he is not simply modest, but also has a different point of reference than most others.
This is a great lesson for everything, not just music.
You nailed it. I stopped using the word "talent" a while ago and have replaced it with the word "skill". To become an artist or musician, you don't need talent. But you do need determination, or better - passion. And passion is the only thing that can keep you going to practice, practice, practice. The most untalented person can still become an awesome musician through training. Truck drivers, carpenters, plumbers, pilots, doctors - all had to undergo training, and that's what made them be good at it, yet none of them we call talented. But we call them skilled. It's no different with artists and musicians.
Passion is the word. No one can really master something they don't love.
if you think talent is not a thing you don't know what you are talking about
@@michaelciancetta6397 .. talent IS a thing. So is skill, but they are not the same although most people think they are. You can develop skill without needing talent, but talent helps you to acquire the skill faster and allows you to develop it further than if you had no talent.
talent helps to do things that you can not achieve with practice only.. like creativity, taste inventive and style.. it is not about speed in learning ahahhaahha@@normg2242
@@michaelciancetta6397 it is a thing, but without practice and dedication talent wont get you nowhere. talent only makes it a bit easier. to me saying something like "oh youre so talented, i could never do that" (while obviously being in good faith) is annoying because yeah you fucking could. its not like it came to me overnight in my sleep. it makes it sound like these apparently "talented" people just got it easy, when most of them had the same start as everyone else
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS!!! I cannot stress enough to anyone and everyone that perfecting a skill like playing an instrument is NOT about natural born talent, it's about dedication, persistance, and having the fortitude to trudge through the rough times when your skills aren't as ideal as you'd like them to be. It takes time, effort, patience and a LOT of time! I became quite a great glass blower in my time, and people would say "I wish I was a talented as you" and my response always was, "I don't have a single lick of talent, but I do have a mad obsession with this craft, to the point I'd blow glass for 18hr straight untill my hands are shaking, feet trembling and soaked with sweat... then I'd go to sleep only because I wanted to be refreshed to do more glass blowing." Thats what it takes to become a master of a specific art. anyone can do it, but only if you truly desire it and have enough passion and time to devote to it.
Just a thought (from an experienced UK tuba player) that I hope some people will find helpful:
"It's not about how many times you make a mistake. It's about how many times you repeat the same mistake."
My playing developed most when I found new angles to look at things I found difficult. I started to find new solutions rather than repeating old problems. One new solution can build a whole set of new patterns that you can rely on in the next stage of your development.
Charles is right. Learning the patterns that form the fundamental building blocks of music are so valuable to spend time on.
Couldn't agree more with this message. Saying someone is 'gifted' or 'talented' is a total slap in the face to hours and years of practice.
I've played bass for at least 3 hours a day for 3 years. I didn't think I would get this far but I'm still not where I want to be. I also started at 30 years old with my only music skills were reading guitar tabs and knowing the notes on a piano
What you said is key: you want to be something better than you are now and that drives your practice.
its all muscles. You gotta take time and put work into learning your instrument and writing songs. Like working out, you gotta do it often.
I believe that talent does exist, and it just makes people learn a skill FASTER, just like some athletes are just genetically better suited for specific sports. But they still have to put in LOTS and LOTS of work to get where they are.
Maybe you are right about talent existing, but maybe people with talent have just have practise in similar tasks and just have the neural patterns already established and thus are able to learn new skills in that field much faster.
You know, like they say the first three languages are hard to learn, but learning more after that becomes easier and easier with each new language.
Charles, always keep in mind that, "The man who greatly honors his teacher, does honor to himself." Sir, that was a fantastic show of humility in my opinion! A lesson sorely needed, especially in this day and age.
I don't care what you say. You are truly amazing. I am 69 years old and have been playing bass since I saw the Beatles in 1962. I watch you and just shake my head and smile. I am a great ( yes I said it) bassist but could never do what you do. You are amazing. And .... Thank you for sharing your talent with all of us.
Yes! I always felt strange about how people use the word "talented" instead of "skilled". Talent is the predisposition, skills is developed through good practice. Calling someone really good at anything really kind of denies the amount of work that person has put into getting where they are.
Humble and also very encouraging. Last year I passed my grade 7 with merit, I wanted to burn my certificate because I thought I was rubbish 🙄(in reality I'd come a long way) But I am ALWAYS very kind and encouraging to people who are newer to a musical path than I am. These days I am a bit kinder to myself, and I'm enjoying things more as a result.
As a middling guitarist, I can appreciate this, oh your so gifted, they mean well, but it nullifies all the years and tears I've put it into it
Rip to Jim Stinnett. I remember early on my journey to learn the bass his lessons on UA-cam were very helpful. I had no idea you were a student of his that’s awesome!
The seminal book about developing expertise in anything - and it's not at all about "talent" - is "Peak" by Anders Ericsson. I'm so glad I read it when my kids were tiny. They are becoming guns in their chosen pursuits, everyone calles them "talented" but as Charles says - it's about focus and dedicated practice. It's actually about more than that and Ericsson spells it out in his book. Cheers from Sydney - Dave
Jim would be and is so very proud of everything you've done. What you've done is help to keep his legacy moving forward into the future. Thank you, Charles! All of us who've were with you on your journey with Jim couldn't be more proud of the musician and the person you've grown into. Our love goes with you.
dedication, discipline, devotion…
Hey Charles, thank you for sharing this. I resonate with your message, it definitely takes hours and hours spent practicing, rather than simply being gifted. I believe Jim Stinnett (RIP) made a positive influence in you as a person overall, you are very generous to share these bits of knowledge with the world. You are an inspiration, Charles. All the best for you this 2024, kind regards from Sydney!
That's so kind of you! You really didn't have to do that, but thank you!
Great to hear Jim's named mentioned. His channel is a gold mine and has played a huge part in my development.
Yes sir! Same here 👍🏼
What a great message, needed by many. I especially appreciated the bit about the first 2000 hours sounding a lot different. I started piano about 7 years ago and just did an off the cuff calculation that I'm about 3000 hours in, and have really JUST started to feel like I'm any good at all. I'm an adult learner, so alas, I can't manage 6 hours a day, but it's encouraging to hear that someone I respect has had the same thoughts and feelings as I have throughout my learning. I don't know that I'll ever catch up to you in terms of practice and dedication, but it's stories like yours that keep me going when I'm getting those "am I ever going to get better" feelings. Thanks again for your work and inspiration, keep it up!
Humble...your dedication to this instrument is evident and appreciated.
I hate it when people tell me im talented in regards to being able to play music. It negates the thousands of hours of practice. The playing a song OVER AND OVER again until I play it right.
I always tell them its not talent. It's the result of HARD WORK and dedication.
That's what she said.
if you play an instrument does not mean you are talented.. talent is a different thing
The main talent of most great musicians is the ability to be able to practice the same things over and over for hours and hours. Having a very high boredom treshold, in other words. 🙂
not at all sorry..
THANK! YOU! FOR! THIS!!! Few things seem as subtly damaging as "You're so talented!" I do not believe in talent. Babies need to be taught how to sleep! We're damn near blank slates wen we come into the world. Just about anything you can do, you learned.
Aside from physical attributes-like having a swimmer's body-what gets labeled "talent" is all just work. When we see child prodigies, we see kids who had some interest early on, and then had the opportunity to pursue it vigorously and at length. I've seen six year olds give amazing classical piano performances-and I know the years of guided practice they'd already put in.
Anything can be learned-knowledge, facility, taste... To just say, "Oh, you're talented" disrespects the massive effort that created your skill, and it makes it seem somehow divinely bestowed. making it feel impossible for others to attain. Anything can be learned.
Practicing that much and having the dedication to stick with it is talent imo. Good message though. Inspiring.
talent isn't perfection. Talent is experience + practice. SO yes, you DO have talent.
You're a brilliant player. Humble and brilliant.
Thanks Charles, even though you say you're not talented, you have a talent for motivating us ( beginner bass players) to keep going. Also providing us tools to improve, so thanks you
this is way more inspirational that you think this might be, thx charles
Hey, man, you've worked hard to get to this level and it shows. I appreciate the effort, discipline and strength to push on when you felt like it was pointless. I appreciate the consistency and the responsibility to own up when you felt like you were inconsistent and resume the hard work.
Best bassist of UA-cam
Great advice man. I actually did a really nice interview with Jim about 2 weeks before he passed away. He Is really missed by the bass community, he was also super proud of all your success! Love this new channel keep it going
I can't tell you how much I appreciate both channels. I'm finally understanding the WHY of the lines I play and beginning to pick up things by ear like I've always wanted to because of the exercises. Thank you.
Whenever I hear a post like this, it serves as fuel to keep going. Thanks
Dude. Many of us have put in tens of thousands of hours. I'm never gonna be able to do what you do. Or what SRV does. Or Al DiMeola. Or any of the greats. You have a gift. You're EXTREMELY talented. But the humility is appreciated. Thanks for sharing your gift.
He isn't talented! He puts 100x more effort into honing his craft than you and me. His gift is that he is blessed to have hands and that he lived his life in a safe country where he could practice his instrument. Talent does not exist, people who "learn things faster" simply have better pattern recognition, and they've naturally honed that skill longer than others.
@@bakerhalt I respectfully disagree. I realize that he put in a lot more time than I did. A lot also has to do with how young you were when you began and how safe your environment growing up / trauma. (Not to mention tools available... if I'd had the vast encyclopedia of information on UA-cam or a DAW as a child 😱) But I'm also humble enough to know that no matter how much time I put in, I would never be able to compete with SRV, Hendrix or our TALENTED friend here.
All are not created equal when it comes to musical ability. That's just a harsh fact of life.
Thank you charles, watching this video really motivated me to keep learning I've been feeling like improving will be time consuming to a point it is not possible at this stage of my life, 9 to 6 job n stuff, but I shall be able to squeeze in some basstime
I’d say a pretty good definition of natural talent is “the natural tendency to gravitate to the correct thing (whatever that thing may be).”
You could terribly ungifted as a child, but through the years of work, you become well-seasoned and refined.
Charles probably does have some natural talent in some areas, maybe, but he’d be nothing without his hard work and sacrifice.
That’s the same with literally everyone, Victor Wooten included.
We’re all mixed rubik’s cubes, and the hard work gets us to where we want to go and what we want to be.
I'd agree with that. We all have something, just most people don't figure out their thing.
That was a really nice and authentic-feeling message (re the holidays), and a very gentle and sincere plug for the Patreon membership. Well done, you're as good at marketing your business as you are playing the bass. Best of luck to you, sir, no matter what the season!
You absolutely have helped me understand more about bass and I have gotten much better. Your a great teacher Charles just by making these videos.
What a humble young man. Good to see his success
Thank yooooou! Lol. When I was a kid, I kinda got passed the fumbley beginner stage pretty quickly and a few folks liked to throw the word 'virtuoso' around about me.
Am like..."I-...don't think you know what that word means🤭"
Thank you for this humble video. Yes I am interested in the trial. Thank you!
Your bass playing is unquestionably and absolutely amazing.
However, this short video is, without any doubt, truly inspirational.
Your message connects with everyone, at every level, who wants to learn, create, play and enjoy.
Thank you Charles
Probably the best video on bass I have ever seen. I am certainly not up to CB level, but I have done some basic teaching and have people look at me like I am a bass g-d. I laugh at them and basically say very similar things. CB has got to be the most talented bass player I have ever seen and would easily compare him to all the virtuoso bassists I have seen. He has a MASSIVE career mounting and hope he creates videos on all his different techniques.
Jim's channel was so awesome, and he always had such a wonderful, positive attitude about the bass.
thanks for breaking down this misconception from ppl who never picked up a particular skill to master it. many ppl dont understand that its a grind. you just put the hours in and do deliberate practice and you get better. there is no such a thing as natural talent when it comes to being a master of your craft.
This was my experience for the drum set. I had an amazing teacher. And the way I got "good" was by practicing things that seemed too hard, but keeping at it and putting in the time every week.
My teacher had a great saying. "Practice beats talent every time".
I was once in Steve Vai's master class - Alien Guitar Secrets. He said about himself that technique came very hard for him. He practiced for hours on hours every day. That's how you get good.
You're an inspiration my friend, been a fan for years now and your major talent is making it look and sound do-able which some presenters seem to struggle with. Never change dude, be ever wonderful!!
Thanks for being an inspiration for me to get better with my beloved 5strings bass... you're great charles🎉
Your the greatest Charles. Very humble with a abundance of talent to share and teach others❤
Wow Charles, thank you so much for the free trial! I wish I could take advantage but my bass isn't working right now, but I'm so happy you are able to share your awesome knowledge! And what's more, you choose to share it for free during the holidays! Stay true to yourself and never stop being so down to Earth!
Your message is so positive. And it's backed by ability. Thank you.
Great that you shared this and great tribute to Jim Stinnett’s sound teaching methods
Hear hear! Words of wisom being spoken in this video!
I'm glad you made it. Love your style.
This is very helpful information in under 3min time, Thank You from the bottom of my heart.💓
Thank you so much for what you said about being talented! I'm a pianist, and I've been playing for over 40 years. That comment about "talent" is always nice to hear, because people are appreciating my skills, but I know that they don't realize how many hours/days/weeks/years it took to get to that level. So thank you for making that point and reminding us all that it's really more about putting in the time! I can sure see how much time you've put into the bass... your level of proficiency is VERY hard to achieve!
I am retiring in 1 year. I will be practicing a lot then. I look forward to a structured methodology. I’ll check this out. You are correct. The amount of practice matters, but practicing the right material helps as well.
People don't realize how much of a skill is about pattern recognition and repetition. That said - Charles you do have to have a lot of talent to be this great at anything...it just wouldn't have materialized into this level of success without your commitment and work ethic
I always use chess piece movements to describe fretboard intervals. Knights can move a m3, a P5, a P6 or a Maj7 up, bishops move tritones and octaves, and pawns capture with a major third. Rooks, the Queen, and the King are essentially useless in the analogy, except maybe for a P4 or a m7 with the rook... Tl;dr: YAY, PATTERNS!
@@Typical.Anomaly that's a great analogy with chess. Maybe rooks are P4, m2, M2; King is any interval within the same or next string, and Queen any interval whatsoever. Kind regards from Sydney!
You should do a collaboration with El Siberiano Estepario. He is an excellent drummer and he shares this same opinion. Talent does not exist, all is about practicing, and your own commitment to make it. 🎉
10,000 hours is legit man..after that, its infinite learning and fun..rock on!
Greatly appreciate you teach!
All the people that are really good at something such as playing a musical instrument say that it's commitment to practicing the correct things that makes way more difference than talent. Really enjoy your videos, looking forward to more in 2024! :)
i love you charles
morning mate I am a guitarist in our church And I was encourage to play Bass when I saw you play
Thank you. It's good to hear this.
thank you for your videos
Thx u
Thanks for this. I started playing guitar when I was around 8 and bass in high school but I never took them seriously because I thought I didn't have any natural talent. I stopped playing for the most part after high school and just started playing bass less than a year ago. I've been practicing at least an hour almost everyday and it is amazing to see the improvement that comes with actually playing and practicing. I'm still a little sloppy and slow but I'm the best I've ever been in a relatively short time frame.
RIP Jim.
Dude, you are exceptionally talented. It doesn't mean you were born with it but you honed what skills you did have and became a master of your trade.
"Born with it" is literally what talent means
@@smegulate9826 Talent can come from learning too. Not many people can do what this guy does even if they practiced 100,000 hours.
@@mowb no, that's the point he's trying to make in the video. It's wrong to call that "talent."
@@mowb See, thats exactly the point. How many bass-players do you know that put in that work?
I LOVE YOU CHARLES YOU INSPIRE ME TO PLAY BASS
thank you! i really, REALLY hate when people say shit like that. nobody would go to a bodybuilder and say shit like "Oh man, you must be really talented to have all those muscles". its a skill, you learn it. there is no frickin talent (besides from things like perfect pitch, but even there i think its more of a exposure to musictheory when you learn to speak)
charles berthoud: im not talented
me: gives me conniptions
The world is full of gifted people whose gift was never fully developed (raises hand) because they lack what you have -- "practiced 6 hours a day."
Your teacher rocks. I love his fretless bass vídeo.. I really like his Rob Allen bass
Being able to dedicate yourself to the mastery of a skill is a talent in and of itself.
It always annoyed the shit out of me when my friends tell me how I was "just born with it" and a "natural talent", which cheapens the endless hours of hard work!
Yeah you are.
You are also quite humble.
Keep up the amazing work that you do.
Charles is talented in his ability to hyper focus on a task. That is a talent. Many of us, like myself, have adhd, and become great at one thing is incredibly hard, because you lose focus so easily. Being able to dedicate yourself to one skillset is not easy. Charles clearly has that discipline, and brain chemistry, to be able to do these things.
Good advice Sir.
I remember my first minute of playing the bass...
Blisters on both hands for two weeks, that's what it was. Just one minute.😂😂😂
But I loved it. I'm not a real bass player. But I just love it.
For most of us, a lifetime of persistence won't achieve what you have in a 'mere' tens of thousands of hours. Just accept that perseverance and talent combined are truly differentiating and you deserve it.
Yes it can
Exactly I don't like to hear any of this talent doesn't matter nonsense.this guy is clearly talented no amount of practice can make just anybody this good its rubbish and a poor mindset to have
Ur r my favourite bassist nd there is no competition u r the god of bass nd the best bassist i have ever seen in this planet.u r the reason I never lose hope in bass❤❤❤❤❤man i love u❤️
Thank you
"I am not talented", says every talented person. You are talented and hardworking, it's that simple.
I've heard this a million times. Talented and hard-working are not mutually exclusive. You can't have one, both, or neither. And anyone who is as good as you has both.
Agree 100%.
I should clarify that I agree with what he said, not the title. :)
I love how everything starts with a touchy conversation, a promise to help, then everything ends with buy more stuff that leads you nowhere...
It's all about money at the end of the day
That's why the distinction between "gifted" and "talented" is so important. If you've invested your "10.000" hours to get great at something, you are talented. Because the word comes from an old currency (talents). If someone refers to a natural gift, that's where a child sits down at a piano for the first few times, learns really quickly and writes and pulls a Mozart, basically.
Talented means "someone who put in the work", essentially.
Very clever. 👏
Yes, just about anyone can become good, or even great...... BUT, there are those special ones, that combine great dedication and hours of practice, with talent ingrained. You simply cannot argue that some people, will be better than others, regardless of time spent practicing. It's fairly simple to prove by looking at the child prodigies, that pick up on an instrument at a very early age, and play like a master with minimal practice. The gap widens greatly when talking about musical theory talent. You can't just brute force practice getting better at creating music. If this were the case, artists greatest accomplishments would be at the latter stages of their career. But history has proven, the majority of legendary musicians, put out their best music before the age of 35.
I am not saying Charles is a prodigy, he is likely 100% right about all of his skill being born of dedication and practice.
And to be honest, those are the musicians I admire the most. The ones that become legends, through sheer force of will alone.
Another way to reinforce this, is to look at other areas of expertise. How many mathematicians, or physics scientists are there, that did not show an exceptional aptitude for those things very early.
When was the last time you heard of someone who "sucked at math", practice math problems for hours a day, to become a mathematician?
All that being said, I would admit, it is possible, this is simply aptitude, that allows learning to happen much quicker, that someone without the aptitude, could get to same level with enough practice. But you have to then ask, if someone can learn it quicker, isn't it logical, that their ceiling would be higher?
This is certainly the case when talking about physical capabilities.
Thanks for sharing! Your comments remind me of something Neil Peart said. He said he was never very talented, but he was relentless.
I can totally feel your pain.. it is what it is.. maybe you get lucky in the next live