ALTERNATIVE to quick-change tool holder

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • In this video, I show you how to make tool holders for a lathe without additional equipment.
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  • @cccook4819
    @cccook4819 2 роки тому +24

    Very clever!! been a toolmaker for 48 years never seen some of those set ups well done fantastic work....

  • @lloydrmc
    @lloydrmc 2 роки тому +4

    Really enjoyed the use of your lathe as a horizontal milling machine.

  • @tomthumb3085
    @tomthumb3085 2 роки тому +4

    Brilliant idea. I would never have thought of doing that. The tools are more rigidly held too.

  • @rseichter
    @rseichter 10 місяців тому

    Several viewers already mentioned this, but I hope that my comment helps your video regarding the YT algorithm: I am impressed by your skills regarding milling operations on the lathe. Thumbs up to you!

  • @aaronyoung7242
    @aaronyoung7242 2 роки тому +3

    Nice!!!! I love the look of machined aluminum and your craftsmanship is beautiful!!! 👍🏽😁👍🏽 two thumbs way up!

  • @cest7343
    @cest7343 2 роки тому +7

    made some like this but out of steel (years ago) - hard to beat the performance per price - and made a set for 8 mm 10 mm and 12 mm tooling, didn't make an dedicated bore holder as of yet tho.
    The mild steel ones hold up remarkably well to time (and somewhat regular usage).

  • @DittersGustav
    @DittersGustav Рік тому +1

    Damn, lots of ways to mill stuff on the lathe, really nice!

  • @amorton94
    @amorton94 Рік тому

    That's a good idea! Everyone upgrades their toolpost to a quick change. I could probably hop on a forum and pick up a half dozen of these for little more than shipping cost.

  • @Reman1975
    @Reman1975 2 роки тому +24

    Interesting idea. Rather than buying (Or making) a quick change tool post and multiple holders, just make multiple tool post blocks, mount tools in them at the required height, and "Quick change" the whole thing as one unit. This setup's going to be a lot more ridged than those cheap Chinese quick change units, and almost as quick to swap tools (as there's no messing about setting tool height like when swapping bare tools). It also mounts the tool a lot closer to the post screw, so that's also going to help with rigidity. I could envisage semi finishing a batch of the blocks from a chunky length of bar, then cutting the tool slot as and when I buy new lathe tooling.
    My only reservation is the decision to go with alloy rather than steel. Aluminium's probably ridged enough not to flex in use, but I'd be worried about threads pulling out over time, and the post nut eating it's way into the body.

  • @theartfulbodger
    @theartfulbodger 2 роки тому +27

    Well Done! I hope you're more intelligent than to take any notice of the negative comments posted! Your home cast (so read FREE) blocks have enough depth to be plenty strong enough, especially for a mini lathe. You've shown insert tooling so once set up the tool holders probably will never come out of the blocks, how are the threads going to wear if they don't move?
    A bit of packing if needed to set the tool height, never to be set again if the same insert tool holder is left in the blook, just an insert change now and then.
    Two for one tool holder so halves the amout of Q/C tool holders needed, and far quicker and easier to machine new ones than all Q/C holders (from FREE home castings!!) when more are needed as your tooling collection grows. Far, far more ridged than most of the cheaper Q/C holders.
    Only suggestion would be a thick, large dia. steel washer under the post handle to save wear and tear when tightening them in place.
    Bloody well done again!!
    Colin

  • @wizrom3046
    @wizrom3046 2 роки тому +1

    A "slowish change tool post"...
    Brilliant! 👍😁

  • @madcrokodile
    @madcrokodile 2 роки тому

    Nice idea. This toolpost don't loose rigidity, like conventional quick-change. It improve it)

  • @KustomKayak
    @KustomKayak Рік тому

    work clean and executed with excellence, congratulations once again

  • @petermcneill80
    @petermcneill80 2 роки тому +2

    Aye , well done mate great idea. U tube is plagued with stupid ideas / click bate but that’s a genuinely good solid idea and good creative use of the machinery / foundry work we all aspire to have and use at home.
    As previous commenters said any thread issues could easily be received / upgraded with “helicoils” or “keenserts” if there were ever any issues ( hey silly point did you know 55 degree whitworth is regarded as the strongest thread form , particularly in soft materials ? )
    But aye absolutely fantastic mate , really like your tool post and the creative ways which you created it 👍🏻

  • @DoublePenetration0
    @DoublePenetration0 2 роки тому

    Man youre really confident on that 3 jaw chuck

  • @gillesrichard1400
    @gillesrichard1400 Рік тому +1

    With carbide inserts, there is no need for an adjustable height of the cutting tool which was necessary when you sharpened yourself the tool. I have done exactly the same on my EMCO Compact5

  • @samykamkar
    @samykamkar 2 роки тому

    Interesting set ups!

  • @kentuckytrapper780
    @kentuckytrapper780 2 роки тому

    Beats cutting dovetails, great ideal.

  • @atm92484
    @atm92484 2 роки тому +2

    Nice work but 0:23! I get it is a small lathe but that move is going to bite sometime.

  • @andersgrassman6583
    @andersgrassman6583 Рік тому

    Very good idea! I was going to make one single 4-way, but this is a better idea! I’ll make 3 or 5 at once. Especially one for my boring bar!👍😃 One might add an indexing disc, much like the raising disc you used when milling, and that way also repeat tool angle. (A feature one doesn’t have on a fourway, so not really that necessary.) This is excellent cheap hobby tooling!

  • @Tensquaremetreworkshop
    @Tensquaremetreworkshop 2 роки тому +2

    Leaving aside the suitability of aluminium, there is a major issue with this design- there is no positional location of the tool-block, so you loose registration every time you remove the tool. With conventional QC tool holders you can rely on your DRO when you replace the same tool- a major feature.

  • @loricastro3772
    @loricastro3772 2 роки тому +1

    You are very skillful, great job! Thanks for showing.

    • @union310
      @union310 2 роки тому

      Using a hacksaw on a moving lathe is beyond stupid!

    • @union310
      @union310 2 роки тому

      @UCbwwdvzREE4peSngvTnw1kA You replied to the video saying he was skillfull. In industry or elsewhere he would be sacked for using a hacksaw or de-burring tool like he did. Totally wreck less and extremely dangerous.

    •  8 днів тому

      @@union310 Those are not opposite to skillful, which he is.

    • @union310
      @union310 8 днів тому

      Using a hacksaw on a moving lathe is stupidity, not skilful

  • @franzoberholzer6482
    @franzoberholzer6482 2 роки тому

    Erinnert mich immer an meine Zeit in Südafrika

  • @rafalg.6901
    @rafalg.6901 Рік тому

    So simple and rigid. I would made one of these from steel for extra strength.

  • @colsanjaybajpai5747
    @colsanjaybajpai5747 2 роки тому

    Beautiful. Work of art.

  • @CatNolara
    @CatNolara 2 роки тому +8

    Interesting, I still prefer a regular QCTP because it keeps its orientation, even when you swap a holder out. It's also pretty repeatable and if you keep track of your tool offsets, you don't have to dial in a lot. On your version the tools will always end up in an arbitrary orientation unless you dial it in, which takes too much time for it to be useful.
    Also not every tool has the cutting edge on the same height, it's better if you can adjust it easily.

    • @stevewilliams2498
      @stevewilliams2498 2 роки тому +1

      Alternative to the QCTH .. the SCTH ?

    • @EitriBrokkr
      @EitriBrokkr 2 роки тому +1

      A stack of shim stock, and a little tab with an adjustment screw to act as a rotational stop (think work stop for a milling machine vise) would be an awesome edition

    • @camillosteuss
      @camillosteuss 2 роки тому

      One could put a precision hole pair and pin the thing in desired positions...

    • @SubramaniamLakshminarayanan
      @SubramaniamLakshminarayanan 2 роки тому +1

      A simple 8 or 10 mm dowel on the tool holders with a corresponding orientation hole in the carriage slide should address this 'dial in' setback.

  • @alexvaldes7656
    @alexvaldes7656 2 роки тому +1

    Excelente trabajo, me gustó mucho, felicidades!!!

  • @abuelitojuke8595
    @abuelitojuke8595 2 роки тому +1

    Excelente trabajo MAESTRO, y muchas gracias por compartir tan buena idea , un saludo amigo ! ! ! .

  • @JayFude
    @JayFude 2 роки тому

    Wildest fly cutter ever!

  • @Richard-nb4iv
    @Richard-nb4iv 2 роки тому

    You have some great skills!

  • @robgoodsight6216
    @robgoodsight6216 2 роки тому

    CLEVER!!!! Quick and effective!

  • @YooProjects
    @YooProjects 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting alternative 👍

  • @jk911993
    @jk911993 2 роки тому

    Beautifully done!

  • @GBWM_CNC
    @GBWM_CNC 2 роки тому

    This is so brilliant!

  • @DudleyToolwright
    @DudleyToolwright 2 роки тому

    Nice work.

  • @picklerix6162
    @picklerix6162 2 роки тому +1

    Who needs a mill when you have a lathe.

  • @xyzspec82
    @xyzspec82 Рік тому

    So good to watch 🤓

  • @ericwarren7719
    @ericwarren7719 2 роки тому +1

    Good ideas and machining, but please loose the long sleeve shirt and do not leave the T-handle in the spindle chuck.

  • @lisag2771
    @lisag2771 2 роки тому

    Very well done!

  • @EvoKeremidarov
    @EvoKeremidarov 2 роки тому

    very nice work. thank you for sharing

  • @geppettocollodi8945
    @geppettocollodi8945 2 роки тому

    It works. But is it an improvement? After grinding the tool may need height adjustment. One may have different size tool bits requiring different heights. A QCTP is quicker, surprise. If you have no casting facility a $10 tool holder is cheaper than the Al stock to make them.

  • @bintangsenapanbn0248
    @bintangsenapanbn0248 Рік тому

    Mantap bos ku. Berapa harga mesin bubut nya

  • @keithblume5159
    @keithblume5159 2 роки тому

    Great video thanks!

  • @Mikhail_Zyablov
    @Mikhail_Zyablov Рік тому

    С комментами, конечно, было веселее... Но все всё понимают...

  • @JesusvonNazaret
    @JesusvonNazaret 2 роки тому +1

    seems to be more rigid than usual quick change tool posts, do you have a way to index it for repeatability?

  • @modellismo1856
    @modellismo1856 11 місяців тому

    Sooo brilliant!!! Please can you tell me were to find the holder you are using from 4;37? Thanks

  • @user-Sucio
    @user-Sucio Місяць тому

    I'm about to buy my lathe, what is your best advice please, I keep asking and nobody answers

  • @robertosaragoni2218
    @robertosaragoni2218 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing job.
    Is there anything you can't do with a mini lathe?

  • @tlbstickman
    @tlbstickman 2 роки тому +1

    I prefer my 4-way tool post to those quick change holders for most lathe work. The tool holders made in this video would be absolutely useless to me since those holders do not index.

    • @camillosteuss
      @camillosteuss 2 роки тому

      add precision holes for pins and set them in the holder body to index at desired positions...

  • @boblewis5558
    @boblewis5558 2 роки тому

    Great work and clever use of milling tools in the lathe, but did you really save much over just buying a normal steel quick change post? Or was it just done as a useful exercise?
    Nice job with the ali casting too.

  • @homemadetools
    @homemadetools 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week :)

  • @josedias4664
    @josedias4664 2 роки тому

    Ótimo serviço,parabéns.

  • @stefankrimbacher7917
    @stefankrimbacher7917 Рік тому

    Don't understand how you secure the right positioning after changing the tool holder. I use Multifix on my lathe with electronic leadscrew.

  • @chadelkins5274
    @chadelkins5274 2 роки тому

    Brilliant!!

  • @josemacielzamudio1773
    @josemacielzamudio1773 2 роки тому

    Excelente, muy bueno.

  • @joseneriacoemel9825
    @joseneriacoemel9825 2 роки тому +1

    Show em my friend s.brasil

  • @Pushyhog
    @Pushyhog 2 роки тому +1

    real tired now, hafta lay dwn now.

  • @donovannewton9507
    @donovannewton9507 2 роки тому

    Are you using 10mm tools? I have 8mm standard tools, and was looking at upgrading to 10mm Carbide tip tools. Just want to make sure this is a good option

  • @leerogers6423
    @leerogers6423 2 роки тому

    Home casting well worth doing. A chunk of ALLY that big would cost a few quid here in the uk.

  • @williamhuang5329
    @williamhuang5329 2 роки тому

    Hanzhen harmonic gear , strain wave reducer, robot arm gear , over 30 years experience

  • @14768
    @14768 Місяць тому

    So it's a slow change tool post?

  • @russguppy8761
    @russguppy8761 2 роки тому

    Brilliant

  • @705johnnyboy
    @705johnnyboy 2 роки тому +1

    never clicked on mounting the cutter in the chuck ,im so rusty at this,havnt had a lathe for decades

    • @yukisaitou5004
      @yukisaitou5004 2 роки тому

      Mods are asleep, post illegal metalworking techniques

    • @johns5447
      @johns5447 2 роки тому

      Please use a proper fly cutter in the 3 jaw chuck not a dangerous bodge like this.

  • @rickpalechuk4411
    @rickpalechuk4411 2 роки тому +2

    As Spock would say: "Fascinating"
    Very clever idea man! What did you use the round stock for that you milled flat on the one side?

    • @yukisaitou5004
      @yukisaitou5004 2 роки тому +1

      I think he milled it flat on all sides and used it to make the moulds which he casts the three cubes from.

    • @hammerland4028
      @hammerland4028  2 роки тому +2

      A round blank was used as an example, it was milled from 4 sides. And I made molds for casting from a profile pipe

    • @Dodi-nz3fd
      @Dodi-nz3fd 2 роки тому

      @@hammerland4028 ,
      Please address the dealer/distributor of this lathe, in *Indonesia* .

  • @vasyapupken
    @vasyapupken 2 роки тому

    прикольно, но квик-чейндж это немного другое ) тут же просто поворотный резцедержатель.

    • @hammerland4028
      @hammerland4028  2 роки тому

      Это же альтернатива квик ченджу для маленьких станков

    • @Dodi-nz3fd
      @Dodi-nz3fd 2 роки тому

      @@hammerland4028 ,
      Please address the dealer/distributor of this lathe, in *Indonesia* .

  • @markjmaxwell9819
    @markjmaxwell9819 Рік тому

    Most people have the two cutting tools they use the most set up on a normal holder .
    If you need a quick change you should have got a bigger more industrial lathe with the extra tools and features at the start .

  • @lithuania4518
    @lithuania4518 Рік тому

    how to cast aluminum without pores?

    • @hammerland4028
      @hammerland4028  Рік тому

      For castings without pores, an aluminum degassing flux should be used.

  • @gokhanceterez1043
    @gokhanceterez1043 2 роки тому

    I didnt understand what is alternative in this product? İt is same, just dimension changed...

  • @giovanbattistatiepolo2517
    @giovanbattistatiepolo2517 2 роки тому

    SPETTACOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @ThanasisThomas
    @ThanasisThomas 2 роки тому

    Did you learn to use the lathe by yourself??

  • @xConundrumx
    @xConundrumx 2 роки тому

    Way cool dun care what anyone says.

  • @staryi5119
    @staryi5119 2 роки тому

    Один я думаю, что резцедержки изготовлены не из самолейки, а из чего то типа Д16Т ? :)

    • @hammerland4028
      @hammerland4028  2 роки тому

      Отлил с 3 попытки и то мелкие поры остались

  • @indoadigaming4446
    @indoadigaming4446 2 роки тому

    How much the mini lathe?

  • @williamprophett9148
    @williamprophett9148 2 роки тому +2

    First, I like the design, second, I love how versatile you are on a lathe. But, are your designs relying on your measuring to center the cutter height!? Now I understand that there have been trillions of miles of precision turning on old Lanterns, but you appear (correct me if I'm missing something) to have precision milled your tool slots "tool specific" to a pretty tight tolerance without the ability to adjust for cutter offset. The shot you showed the cutter tip "on center" would change with one grinding. Unless these are all replaceable, indexable carbide carbide inserts. Even then, you better buy "good ones" because they need to all be IDENTICAL! Help me out here...

    • @zombieengines7336
      @zombieengines7336 2 роки тому +1

      I had the same question.

    • @cccook4819
      @cccook4819 2 роки тому +1

      @@zombieengines7336 just make the slots larger problem solved

  • @kundeleczek1
    @kundeleczek1 2 роки тому +2

    Remove compound rest slide, replace it with block of steel.

  • @TlD-dg6ug
    @TlD-dg6ug 2 роки тому +2

    There is a reason they don't make aluminum tool holders. Smdh

    • @MF175mp
      @MF175mp 2 роки тому

      The Chinese actually make 'em. Probably not any good though

  • @kundeleczek1
    @kundeleczek1 2 роки тому

    What is that part that you put at 4:36?

    • @hammerland4028
      @hammerland4028  2 роки тому +3

      This is a part of a universal milling attachment

    • @Dodi-nz3fd
      @Dodi-nz3fd 2 роки тому

      @@hammerland4028 ,
      Please address the dealer/distributor of this lathe, in *Indonesia* .

  • @matthewmcdaid7962
    @matthewmcdaid7962 2 роки тому +1

    Aluminium is likely to deform under load. Not a good choice for a tool holder. Aluminium castings are notoriously brittle and subject to fracture. Again a poor choice of material.

    • @cccook4819
      @cccook4819 2 роки тому +1

      how much pressure would be on a small lathe like the one used don't think he would be bothered there.

  • @CarlosAlberto-bq9fn
    @CarlosAlberto-bq9fn 2 роки тому

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍😁😁😁😁😁

  • @gangleweed
    @gangleweed 2 роки тому +6

    Nope.......no better than a 4 way tool post and made in aluminium is a waste of time due to abrasion and wear and tear.....once you've used a QCTP, especially the wedge type, it opens up a whole world of opportunities.....0 out of 10 for usefulness......would have been better using a mill.....if one available.

    • @gangleweed
      @gangleweed 2 роки тому +2

      @@Orcinus24x5 Basically, if anyone ever do get the urge to invest in a lathe, and the budget is tight, I would think after viewing many videos on this lathe that you "could," with a lot of elbow grease, make it into quite a presentable machine..........but that is considering that your time is of absolute nought value and only hobby orientated........making it good is probably one way to guarantee that everything will work and last for a long time without a sudden unexpected occurence in the middle of a job etc.
      Now if they sold this lathe as a bundle of parts, you to assemble etc, and at a reduced price, it would make a lot of sense and probably sales too.

    • @martinpanev6651
      @martinpanev6651 Рік тому +2

      @gangleweed Yep, I agree about the machines... I bought an old lathe off of facebook marketplace for $150, and wirebrushed it to get the rust off, and I am certain that whatever you do to one of these offshore lathes, it can never beat a myford/colchester/craftsman/raglan just because of the vast quantities of tooling that was made for these older machines, and the sheer production quality. I am sure I could drop my lathe off of a roof and the only thing that would be damaged is my driveway :)

    • @toastyovens8777
      @toastyovens8777 6 місяців тому

      Hey, I hope you didn't wire rushed the ways. 😅​@@martinpanev6651

  • @avijitDrilling92
    @avijitDrilling92 2 роки тому

    👍

  • @terrymcanalen3031
    @terrymcanalen3031 2 роки тому

    Get a milling machine fer Pete's sake .

  • @henrydando
    @henrydando 2 роки тому

    so basically a bunch of 4 way tool posts

  • @union310
    @union310 2 роки тому +2

    You have to be the most unsafe person operating a lathe I have ever seen.
    Running a lathe and using a hacksaw or a hand de-burr would get you instant dismissal in industry.

  • @arijannuhiu5031
    @arijannuhiu5031 2 роки тому

    😂

  • @daveticehurst4191
    @daveticehurst4191 2 роки тому +1

    What do you mean, NO ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT. Furnace, Casting Box ARE in addition to a lathe. TBH I think that you wasted your time making this, a Cheapie Chinese Quick Change Toolpost would have been 200% better than your one.

    • @camillosteuss
      @camillosteuss 2 роки тому

      not really, these are inherently more rigid as they dont have any moving body parts nor do the holders extend additionally like the cqtp holders do... That alone likely makes this for a much more rigid and superior product in consideration of surface finish and even precision, as there are no separate parts connected to bend further and put to test the build quality... if he put indexing holes in these and a pin in the holder seat, these would be as good as it could get, apart from being aluminum and not high alloy steel...

    • @zombieengines7336
      @zombieengines7336 2 роки тому

      @@camillosteuss Don't you think some of that stiffness will be canceled by using aluminum.

    • @camillosteuss
      @camillosteuss 2 роки тому

      @@zombieengines7336 as i said, the only thing that can be changed to make it better is go from alu to high alloy steel... so yeah

  • @GeorgeWallace-l1s
    @GeorgeWallace-l1s 8 місяців тому

    you are all NUTS. who needs a quick change toolpost on a mini lathe? Is this a race you are in?????.

  • @madeddiesman-stylemonsterm6662
    @madeddiesman-stylemonsterm6662 2 роки тому

    Nice work! Thanks for sharing this!

  • @eddies6669
    @eddies6669 6 місяців тому

    This is actiali very good,

  • @davidwillard7334
    @davidwillard7334 2 роки тому

    Giving ! Artisan ! Makes ! ( His Website ) Something ! To ! Think ! About ! Here !

  • @Skyrmir
    @Skyrmir 2 роки тому +9

    I've heard it said that anything you can do on a mill, you can do on a lathe. But I've never seen it in action. Great set ups going on there. I feel like you should do a video explaining your steps and decisions for fixturing.

  • @chadelkins5274
    @chadelkins5274 2 роки тому

    Brilliant!!

  • @nigelwood3313
    @nigelwood3313 2 роки тому +6

    Fantastic love the milling /facing technique with tool held in chuck and casting your own blocks well done you sir

    • @mountainbikemike
      @mountainbikemike 2 роки тому

      Noob here. Is this not sketchy at all? Guess you have to be extremely slow introducing the spinning tool to the block?

  • @TheMrJaagoo
    @TheMrJaagoo 2 роки тому +2

    Well done, I can appreciate the creative setups.
    But I must say, you really goofed with the hacksawing on the lathe with your long sleeve and glove on. Also, please, for the love of god always take out the chuck key.
    it is a small lathe and probably won't kill you, but you continue working like this, you will be injured sooner or later.

    • @johns5447
      @johns5447 2 роки тому +1

      Completely agree If you did anything like that as an apprentice you would get a huge bollocking first time and dismissed if done again

  • @donnyo65
    @donnyo65 2 роки тому +9

    Nice clean design, my only concern would be getting enough purchase on the tool clamps without stripping the threads in the aluminium. You could counter some of this by Helicoiling the threads. Good video, I sold my mini lathe a couple of years ago when I bought my big one but before I did I made all sorts of stuff for it - its a good cheap way to teach yourself machining skills.

    • @cda32
      @cda32 2 роки тому +6

      I think for the tool pressures on a lathe that small and the chunkiness of those casts it should be fine. Love watching these creative lathe uses though

    • @union310
      @union310 2 роки тому +1

      My concern is using a hacksaw whilst the lathe is running

    • @MrEh5
      @MrEh5 2 роки тому +1

      @@union310 its fine. Been doing it for 30+ years.

    • @union310
      @union310 2 роки тому +2

      @@MrEh5 Shows your incompetence then and lack of respect for a lathe. You would get sacked in industry.

    • @MrEh5
      @MrEh5 2 роки тому +1

      @@union310 yes its not the safest practice. I would be more worried he is wearing long sleeves and gloves and reaching over the chuck.

  • @fahreddinsungur5173
    @fahreddinsungur5173 Місяць тому

    Beautiful articles made by the artisan's hands, a fantastic video.

  • @karlalton3170
    @karlalton3170 Місяць тому

    Well i think you made a great job mate , well done 😁😁👍👍

  • @leebarnhart831
    @leebarnhart831 Рік тому

    Good job but for the price of quick change holders nowadays I think you'd be working for less than minimum wage building them.

  • @Fbiking40
    @Fbiking40 2 роки тому

    Wonderfull ! I have same mini lathe and your improvement is perfect !
    👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 from 🇲🇫

  • @tomk3732
    @tomk3732 2 роки тому

    What is the point - its standard multi position tool post that many cheap lathes come with standard for past 20 years!