Well Done! I hope you're more intelligent than to take any notice of the negative comments posted! Your home cast (so read FREE) blocks have enough depth to be plenty strong enough, especially for a mini lathe. You've shown insert tooling so once set up the tool holders probably will never come out of the blocks, how are the threads going to wear if they don't move? A bit of packing if needed to set the tool height, never to be set again if the same insert tool holder is left in the blook, just an insert change now and then. Two for one tool holder so halves the amout of Q/C tool holders needed, and far quicker and easier to machine new ones than all Q/C holders (from FREE home castings!!) when more are needed as your tooling collection grows. Far, far more ridged than most of the cheaper Q/C holders. Only suggestion would be a thick, large dia. steel washer under the post handle to save wear and tear when tightening them in place. Bloody well done again!! Colin
I've heard it said that anything you can do on a mill, you can do on a lathe. But I've never seen it in action. Great set ups going on there. I feel like you should do a video explaining your steps and decisions for fixturing.
Several viewers already mentioned this, but I hope that my comment helps your video regarding the YT algorithm: I am impressed by your skills regarding milling operations on the lathe. Thumbs up to you!
made some like this but out of steel (years ago) - hard to beat the performance per price - and made a set for 8 mm 10 mm and 12 mm tooling, didn't make an dedicated bore holder as of yet tho. The mild steel ones hold up remarkably well to time (and somewhat regular usage).
Interesting idea. Rather than buying (Or making) a quick change tool post and multiple holders, just make multiple tool post blocks, mount tools in them at the required height, and "Quick change" the whole thing as one unit. This setup's going to be a lot more ridged than those cheap Chinese quick change units, and almost as quick to swap tools (as there's no messing about setting tool height like when swapping bare tools). It also mounts the tool a lot closer to the post screw, so that's also going to help with rigidity. I could envisage semi finishing a batch of the blocks from a chunky length of bar, then cutting the tool slot as and when I buy new lathe tooling. My only reservation is the decision to go with alloy rather than steel. Aluminium's probably ridged enough not to flex in use, but I'd be worried about threads pulling out over time, and the post nut eating it's way into the body.
That's a good idea! Everyone upgrades their toolpost to a quick change. I could probably hop on a forum and pick up a half dozen of these for little more than shipping cost.
I call it the "quickenough" tool change system . terrific trade off you spend a little time winding the handle and much less time making the set up thanks for sharing
Aye , well done mate great idea. U tube is plagued with stupid ideas / click bate but that’s a genuinely good solid idea and good creative use of the machinery / foundry work we all aspire to have and use at home. As previous commenters said any thread issues could easily be received / upgraded with “helicoils” or “keenserts” if there were ever any issues ( hey silly point did you know 55 degree whitworth is regarded as the strongest thread form , particularly in soft materials ? ) But aye absolutely fantastic mate , really like your tool post and the creative ways which you created it 👍🏻
Interesting, I still prefer a regular QCTP because it keeps its orientation, even when you swap a holder out. It's also pretty repeatable and if you keep track of your tool offsets, you don't have to dial in a lot. On your version the tools will always end up in an arbitrary orientation unless you dial it in, which takes too much time for it to be useful. Also not every tool has the cutting edge on the same height, it's better if you can adjust it easily.
A stack of shim stock, and a little tab with an adjustment screw to act as a rotational stop (think work stop for a milling machine vise) would be an awesome edition
Nice clean design, my only concern would be getting enough purchase on the tool clamps without stripping the threads in the aluminium. You could counter some of this by Helicoiling the threads. Good video, I sold my mini lathe a couple of years ago when I bought my big one but before I did I made all sorts of stuff for it - its a good cheap way to teach yourself machining skills.
I think for the tool pressures on a lathe that small and the chunkiness of those casts it should be fine. Love watching these creative lathe uses though
With carbide inserts, there is no need for an adjustable height of the cutting tool which was necessary when you sharpened yourself the tool. I have done exactly the same on my EMCO Compact5
@UCbwwdvzREE4peSngvTnw1kA You replied to the video saying he was skillfull. In industry or elsewhere he would be sacked for using a hacksaw or de-burring tool like he did. Totally wreck less and extremely dangerous.
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@@union310 Those are not opposite to skillful, which he is.
Very good idea! I was going to make one single 4-way, but this is a better idea! I’ll make 3 or 5 at once. Especially one for my boring bar!👍😃 One might add an indexing disc, much like the raising disc you used when milling, and that way also repeat tool angle. (A feature one doesn’t have on a fourway, so not really that necessary.) This is excellent cheap hobby tooling!
Leaving aside the suitability of aluminium, there is a major issue with this design- there is no positional location of the tool-block, so you loose registration every time you remove the tool. With conventional QC tool holders you can rely on your DRO when you replace the same tool- a major feature.
Something I forgot to ask when I first watched this video, any idea what grade of aluminium you used? Old car wheels or various alloy swarf from things you machine?
Great work and clever use of milling tools in the lathe, but did you really save much over just buying a normal steel quick change post? Or was it just done as a useful exercise? Nice job with the ali casting too.
It works. But is it an improvement? After grinding the tool may need height adjustment. One may have different size tool bits requiring different heights. A QCTP is quicker, surprise. If you have no casting facility a $10 tool holder is cheaper than the Al stock to make them.
Are you using 10mm tools? I have 8mm standard tools, and was looking at upgrading to 10mm Carbide tip tools. Just want to make sure this is a good option
I prefer my 4-way tool post to those quick change holders for most lathe work. The tool holders made in this video would be absolutely useless to me since those holders do not index.
Yep but far superior to the cheap Chinese quick change tool post. I bought one several years ago, it's still in the box as I find the four way that came with mini lathe far better. Main problem with any QCTP is the leverage from tool being much further from mounting stud. On a large machine (5,000lbs) it isn't a problem, but one you can pick up - different story
Well done, I can appreciate the creative setups. But I must say, you really goofed with the hacksawing on the lathe with your long sleeve and glove on. Also, please, for the love of god always take out the chuck key. it is a small lathe and probably won't kill you, but you continue working like this, you will be injured sooner or later.
@@david-flint erm, look closer as the video progresses, he uses the post it came with for most operations, but switches to a quick change tool post to hold the assembly during a later stage of the process.
@@noviceartisan hammerland has already answered a question about that and states that it is part of a milling attachment, It's got T slots in it for mounting parts.
Most people have the two cutting tools they use the most set up on a normal holder . If you need a quick change you should have got a bigger more industrial lathe with the extra tools and features at the start .
First, I like the design, second, I love how versatile you are on a lathe. But, are your designs relying on your measuring to center the cutter height!? Now I understand that there have been trillions of miles of precision turning on old Lanterns, but you appear (correct me if I'm missing something) to have precision milled your tool slots "tool specific" to a pretty tight tolerance without the ability to adjust for cutter offset. The shot you showed the cutter tip "on center" would change with one grinding. Unless these are all replaceable, indexable carbide carbide inserts. Even then, you better buy "good ones" because they need to all be IDENTICAL! Help me out here...
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Very clever!! been a toolmaker for 48 years never seen some of those set ups well done fantastic work....
Well Done! I hope you're more intelligent than to take any notice of the negative comments posted! Your home cast (so read FREE) blocks have enough depth to be plenty strong enough, especially for a mini lathe. You've shown insert tooling so once set up the tool holders probably will never come out of the blocks, how are the threads going to wear if they don't move?
A bit of packing if needed to set the tool height, never to be set again if the same insert tool holder is left in the blook, just an insert change now and then.
Two for one tool holder so halves the amout of Q/C tool holders needed, and far quicker and easier to machine new ones than all Q/C holders (from FREE home castings!!) when more are needed as your tooling collection grows. Far, far more ridged than most of the cheaper Q/C holders.
Only suggestion would be a thick, large dia. steel washer under the post handle to save wear and tear when tightening them in place.
Bloody well done again!!
Colin
I've heard it said that anything you can do on a mill, you can do on a lathe. But I've never seen it in action. Great set ups going on there. I feel like you should do a video explaining your steps and decisions for fixturing.
Really enjoyed the use of your lathe as a horizontal milling machine.
Brilliant idea. I would never have thought of doing that. The tools are more rigidly held too.
Several viewers already mentioned this, but I hope that my comment helps your video regarding the YT algorithm: I am impressed by your skills regarding milling operations on the lathe. Thumbs up to you!
Fantastic love the milling /facing technique with tool held in chuck and casting your own blocks well done you sir
Noob here. Is this not sketchy at all? Guess you have to be extremely slow introducing the spinning tool to the block?
made some like this but out of steel (years ago) - hard to beat the performance per price - and made a set for 8 mm 10 mm and 12 mm tooling, didn't make an dedicated bore holder as of yet tho.
The mild steel ones hold up remarkably well to time (and somewhat regular usage).
Interesting idea. Rather than buying (Or making) a quick change tool post and multiple holders, just make multiple tool post blocks, mount tools in them at the required height, and "Quick change" the whole thing as one unit. This setup's going to be a lot more ridged than those cheap Chinese quick change units, and almost as quick to swap tools (as there's no messing about setting tool height like when swapping bare tools). It also mounts the tool a lot closer to the post screw, so that's also going to help with rigidity. I could envisage semi finishing a batch of the blocks from a chunky length of bar, then cutting the tool slot as and when I buy new lathe tooling.
My only reservation is the decision to go with alloy rather than steel. Aluminium's probably ridged enough not to flex in use, but I'd be worried about threads pulling out over time, and the post nut eating it's way into the body.
Nice!!!! I love the look of machined aluminum and your craftsmanship is beautiful!!! 👍🏽😁👍🏽 two thumbs way up!
Damn, lots of ways to mill stuff on the lathe, really nice!
That's a good idea! Everyone upgrades their toolpost to a quick change. I could probably hop on a forum and pick up a half dozen of these for little more than shipping cost.
I call it the "quickenough" tool change system . terrific trade off you spend a little time winding the handle and much less time making the set up thanks for sharing
Beautiful articles made by the artisan's hands, a fantastic video.
Interesting set ups!
Nice idea. This toolpost don't loose rigidity, like conventional quick-change. It improve it)
Very creative with the lathe. good work!
Aye , well done mate great idea. U tube is plagued with stupid ideas / click bate but that’s a genuinely good solid idea and good creative use of the machinery / foundry work we all aspire to have and use at home.
As previous commenters said any thread issues could easily be received / upgraded with “helicoils” or “keenserts” if there were ever any issues ( hey silly point did you know 55 degree whitworth is regarded as the strongest thread form , particularly in soft materials ? )
But aye absolutely fantastic mate , really like your tool post and the creative ways which you created it 👍🏻
A "slowish change tool post"...
Brilliant! 👍😁
Nice work but 0:23! I get it is a small lathe but that move is going to bite sometime.
work clean and executed with excellence, congratulations once again
Interesting, I still prefer a regular QCTP because it keeps its orientation, even when you swap a holder out. It's also pretty repeatable and if you keep track of your tool offsets, you don't have to dial in a lot. On your version the tools will always end up in an arbitrary orientation unless you dial it in, which takes too much time for it to be useful.
Also not every tool has the cutting edge on the same height, it's better if you can adjust it easily.
Alternative to the QCTH .. the SCTH ?
A stack of shim stock, and a little tab with an adjustment screw to act as a rotational stop (think work stop for a milling machine vise) would be an awesome edition
One could put a precision hole pair and pin the thing in desired positions...
A simple 8 or 10 mm dowel on the tool holders with a corresponding orientation hole in the carriage slide should address this 'dial in' setback.
Nice clean design, my only concern would be getting enough purchase on the tool clamps without stripping the threads in the aluminium. You could counter some of this by Helicoiling the threads. Good video, I sold my mini lathe a couple of years ago when I bought my big one but before I did I made all sorts of stuff for it - its a good cheap way to teach yourself machining skills.
I think for the tool pressures on a lathe that small and the chunkiness of those casts it should be fine. Love watching these creative lathe uses though
My concern is using a hacksaw whilst the lathe is running
@@union310 its fine. Been doing it for 30+ years.
@@MrEh5 Shows your incompetence then and lack of respect for a lathe. You would get sacked in industry.
@@union310 yes its not the safest practice. I would be more worried he is wearing long sleeves and gloves and reaching over the chuck.
Well i think you made a great job mate , well done 😁😁👍👍
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Man youre really confident on that 3 jaw chuck
With carbide inserts, there is no need for an adjustable height of the cutting tool which was necessary when you sharpened yourself the tool. I have done exactly the same on my EMCO Compact5
You are very skillful, great job! Thanks for showing.
Using a hacksaw on a moving lathe is beyond stupid!
@UCbwwdvzREE4peSngvTnw1kA You replied to the video saying he was skillfull. In industry or elsewhere he would be sacked for using a hacksaw or de-burring tool like he did. Totally wreck less and extremely dangerous.
@@union310 Those are not opposite to skillful, which he is.
Using a hacksaw on a moving lathe is stupidity, not skilful
Wonderfull ! I have same mini lathe and your improvement is perfect !
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Very good idea! I was going to make one single 4-way, but this is a better idea! I’ll make 3 or 5 at once. Especially one for my boring bar!👍😃 One might add an indexing disc, much like the raising disc you used when milling, and that way also repeat tool angle. (A feature one doesn’t have on a fourway, so not really that necessary.) This is excellent cheap hobby tooling!
Beautiful. Work of art.
Remarkable would be an understatement.
Leaving aside the suitability of aluminium, there is a major issue with this design- there is no positional location of the tool-block, so you loose registration every time you remove the tool. With conventional QC tool holders you can rely on your DRO when you replace the same tool- a major feature.
Beats cutting dovetails, great ideal.
Excelente trabajo MAESTRO, y muchas gracias por compartir tan buena idea , un saludo amigo ! ! ! .
Excelente trabajo, me gustó mucho, felicidades!!!
This is so brilliant!
You have some great skills!
Something I forgot to ask when I first watched this video, any idea what grade of aluminium you used?
Old car wheels or various alloy swarf from things you machine?
So simple and rigid. I would made one of these from steel for extra strength.
Wildest fly cutter ever!
Beautifully done!
seems to be more rigid than usual quick change tool posts, do you have a way to index it for repeatability?
Sooo brilliant!!! Please can you tell me were to find the holder you are using from 4;37? Thanks
Nice work.
Interesting to watch and very innovative.
Nice work, were did you get the block with T Slots
CLEVER!!!! Quick and effective!
Amazing job.
Is there anything you can't do with a mini lathe?
Get a girlfriend.
Interesting alternative 👍
So good to watch 🤓
I'm about to buy my lathe, what is your best advice please, I keep asking and nobody answers
So first I see this old Tony using his milling machine as a lathe and then this :)
Great work and clever use of milling tools in the lathe, but did you really save much over just buying a normal steel quick change post? Or was it just done as a useful exercise?
Nice job with the ali casting too.
It works. But is it an improvement? After grinding the tool may need height adjustment. One may have different size tool bits requiring different heights. A QCTP is quicker, surprise. If you have no casting facility a $10 tool holder is cheaper than the Al stock to make them.
Are you using 10mm tools? I have 8mm standard tools, and was looking at upgrading to 10mm Carbide tip tools. Just want to make sure this is a good option
Very well done!
What ingredients are you cooking?
very nice work. thank you for sharing
great job. amazing
What is that part that you put at 4:36?
This is a part of a universal milling attachment
@@hammerland4028 ,
Please address the dealer/distributor of this lathe, in *Indonesia* .
Great video thanks!
Beautiful
As Spock would say: "Fascinating"
Very clever idea man! What did you use the round stock for that you milled flat on the one side?
I think he milled it flat on all sides and used it to make the moulds which he casts the three cubes from.
A round blank was used as an example, it was milled from 4 sides. And I made molds for casting from a profile pipe
@@hammerland4028 ,
Please address the dealer/distributor of this lathe, in *Indonesia* .
Good ideas and machining, but please loose the long sleeve shirt and do not leave the T-handle in the spindle chuck.
How much the mini lathe?
how to cast aluminum without pores?
For castings without pores, an aluminum degassing flux should be used.
Don't understand how you secure the right positioning after changing the tool holder. I use Multifix on my lathe with electronic leadscrew.
Ótimo serviço,parabéns.
I prefer my 4-way tool post to those quick change holders for most lathe work. The tool holders made in this video would be absolutely useless to me since those holders do not index.
add precision holes for pins and set them in the holder body to index at desired positions...
So it's a slow change tool post?
Yep but far superior to the cheap Chinese quick change tool post.
I bought one several years ago, it's still in the box as I find the four way that came with mini lathe far better.
Main problem with any QCTP is the leverage from tool being much further from mounting stud.
On a large machine (5,000lbs) it isn't a problem, but one you can pick up - different story
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Who needs a mill when you have a lathe.
real tired now, hafta lay dwn now.
Brilliant!!
Excelente, muy bueno.
Please inform the address of the official distributor in *Indonesia* ...
Home casting well worth doing. A chunk of ALLY that big would cost a few quid here in the uk.
Excellent work .
Well done, I can appreciate the creative setups.
But I must say, you really goofed with the hacksawing on the lathe with your long sleeve and glove on. Also, please, for the love of god always take out the chuck key.
it is a small lathe and probably won't kill you, but you continue working like this, you will be injured sooner or later.
Completely agree If you did anything like that as an apprentice you would get a huge bollocking first time and dismissed if done again
never clicked on mounting the cutter in the chuck ,im so rusty at this,havnt had a lathe for decades
Mods are asleep, post illegal metalworking techniques
Please use a proper fly cutter in the 3 jaw chuck not a dangerous bodge like this.
Hanzhen harmonic gear , strain wave reducer, robot arm gear , over 30 years experience
Did you learn to use the lathe by yourself??
Yes
Brilliant
Show em my friend s.brasil
С комментами, конечно, было веселее... Но все всё понимают...
прикольно, но квик-чейндж это немного другое ) тут же просто поворотный резцедержатель.
Это же альтернатива квик ченджу для маленьких станков
@@hammerland4028 ,
Please address the dealer/distributor of this lathe, in *Indonesia* .
I didnt understand what is alternative in this product? İt is same, just dimension changed...
Perfeito!!
Interesting. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week :)
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Один я думаю, что резцедержки изготовлены не из самолейки, а из чего то типа Д16Т ? :)
Отлил с 3 попытки и то мелкие поры остались
If you hadn't used a quick change tool post as part of the process to make a new tool post, I'd give you full marks for ingenuity! :P
Except it wasn't a quick change post, just the one that comes with the machine.
@@david-flint erm, look closer as the video progresses, he uses the post it came with for most operations, but switches to a quick change tool post to hold the assembly during a later stage of the process.
@@noviceartisan that was a milling block.
@@david-flint 4:53 it's a quick change tool post.
@@noviceartisan hammerland has already answered a question about that and states that it is part of a milling attachment, It's got T slots in it for mounting parts.
Good job but for the price of quick change holders nowadays I think you'd be working for less than minimum wage building them.
What is the point - its standard multi position tool post that many cheap lathes come with standard for past 20 years!
Way cool dun care what anyone says.
Most people have the two cutting tools they use the most set up on a normal holder .
If you need a quick change you should have got a bigger more industrial lathe with the extra tools and features at the start .
First, I like the design, second, I love how versatile you are on a lathe. But, are your designs relying on your measuring to center the cutter height!? Now I understand that there have been trillions of miles of precision turning on old Lanterns, but you appear (correct me if I'm missing something) to have precision milled your tool slots "tool specific" to a pretty tight tolerance without the ability to adjust for cutter offset. The shot you showed the cutter tip "on center" would change with one grinding. Unless these are all replaceable, indexable carbide carbide inserts. Even then, you better buy "good ones" because they need to all be IDENTICAL! Help me out here...
I had the same question.
@@zombieengines7336 just make the slots larger problem solved
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Don't leave the key in the chuck, mate. You are one accidental button push from a dangerous situation.
Been there. It hurts big time.