Long ago threads were filed with a triangular file after the helix had been 'set out'. In those days marking tools & a file were the 'proper equipment'!
To all the people saying I would take it to a machinist.. shut up and go watch Martha Stewart bake a cake... This video is for the men that can fix anything with limited tools and have the mindset to get anything done. Bravo sir👍 I can see myself doing this one day to atleast clean up a hard to find large fine thread bolt or barrel. Thank you for the great idea.
@@innovationtime20which part exactly isn't the right way you mean? It shows the man has understanding if thread geometry. One can modify this approach to specific situation. With or without welding. Greater precision - with use of indicator to align the bolt. Thread attachment can be more or less precisely/sturdy reusable, if more threads has to be cut. Adjustable - for different threads. I don't see anything "not the right way", but I'm not a machinist of 37 yrs.. So please share with us how would you do that the right way. Just don't tell us to use your high precision lathe, cnc machine, computerised mill and so on
@@littleblom The right way is using any one of the machines and some other equipment you don't want to be told about. As he says it may get you out of shit in a situation where no equipment is available. Even though the nut fits does not mean it's correct. He is using a bolt with the same pitch as a guide and there is always a fair bit of clearance between the nut and bolt which can effect the thread accuracy even if the tool is sharpened to correct angle. The most important of all thread depth is purely a guess since he has nothing to control the depth of cut. By no means I'm putting him down actually it's a very genius idea when no other options available. This is from a machinist of 47 years.😊
That's damn cool. I've read about similar methods and seen diagrams 30~40 years ago but seeing your video is much better and very easy to understand. I may even try it .
This is the craziest method of metal work I've ever seen. But interesting to see how ordinary parts lik screws and nuts can be used in "mad max style" to create something new. Its really inspiring my brain how a universal tool should be look like to cutting outer threads on tubes. Innovation Level: 10/10👍
This is something definitely to be considered in some circumstances. Made me also understand how a lathe works for threads, which I never thought about. Beforehand, I'm obviously neither a fabricator nor a machinist.
Definitely different from the norm!!! But great idea for when you don't have access to the proper tools or equipment. 😊 Human ingenuity is endless and amazing!
Clever one-off, but did you ever hear the phrase, "Work smarter not harder"? Because, man, I'm not sure which of those that was 😃! If you'd center-punched and drilled the piece you'd threaded, it would have been easier to locate your cutter's rotator shaft. Now you got me thinking of ways to make something like that reusable. Definitely ingenious, though. I have a small hobby lathe (Sieg C6 clone), but you know, that rig you made would be absolutely invaluable on a field site or with something too large to fit the lathe. The hard part would be finding a "driveshaft" and nut of the correct thread pitch.....but one could turn something like that on a smaller lathe, then put this rig onto the larger object that needed threaded. So yeah, it definitely has applications.
People are clueless as ever when they recommend using cutting oil and all that. This was a demonstration on the working principles of the tool, he doesn't need that part he just showed you how it works. It's up to you to improve it based on your needs.
I agree. It's particularly prevalent on YT short clips, don't you find? I see it as attention seeking behaviour. Like that obnoxious kid who always butts in, attempting to outdo the person talking and seize the limelight.
Good engineering this makes me remember 52 years ago when I used to work as engineer on old 600 tons cargo vessel ,in thoes days we did not had modern tools like now but 100 % durable tools not like now with one time used tools before you have to trow it away and replace it .
Definition of a resourceful backyard/treeshade/machinist/millwright/bush mechanic of some sort, whatever you want to call him. Getting job done more important how it's done.
I have small trailer whose threads I need to re-work. I will follow the same example. As per advises elsewhere in these thread, am going to drill a hole in the centre to anchor my tool.
Very cool, you got it done, it doesn't matter how you did it, it's the fact you did it. I grew up poor and I would do things like this. Now I have the fancy lathes and milling machines. But this is good for someone who doesn't have the fancy equipment. You could even make your tool adjustable for different threads. Well done!
This is a great idea as say a final test in a fab course. I will also mention the by 3:06 you showed me something I have never even thought of in 30 years. I am seriously impressed..Thanks.
Very innovative idea, Not a bad outcome. But still needed a lathe to machine the shaft to the required diameter. Using some sort of oil or cutting fluid would have made for a much better finish. Good stuff mate
@@Gottenhimfella Std stock is not generally sized for proper thread cutting without a cleanup at least. I was referring to this video and is clearly not a std piece of bar and can see that this piece has clearly been turned in the lathe albeit rough as guts. Still, clearly a very novel way of cutting a thread and a brilliant idea, something I would never have thought of. I have to admit, I watched the video from start to finish in one take because I wanted to see if I could work it out in my head before there was enough info in the video. I was way into the video before I worked out how he was going to do it. Thinking out of the square and the mother of necessity very often comes up with very different ways of getting a job done. But of course, if you can cut a thread in this manner then you could turn the material to size using this same method. Kudos to this man.
@@ScatManAust This is just a demo of a concept, surely. I suppose he could have bought a piece of bar the right size to suit the bearing locknut he already had, in case someone wanted to raise a (somewhat pointless) quibble... which this page is replete with. As for turning barstock before threading it, when it's already the right size (which, except in the case of cold rolled, is usually the case) I'm not sure that makes sense, except in a tool and gauge shop (where they never use "right size" stock anyway). And if it's oversize, even a V tool taken to the right pitch diameter (I presume you use thread wires, given you seem rather proactive) will simply create sharp-topped crests but a correct thread form, and a wipe with a file, followed by a trial fit of the matching female thread, and a few more swipes if necessary, will quickly remedy the OD.
I don't see why you couldn't use the same basic method, using a cutter of a different shape, to cut the shaft down to the required diameter first. Just more sweat and time involved.
I have been around engineering most of my life and have never come across this before and doubt I would have thought of it Where there is a will there is a way when needs must
@ Then I would expect this tool to be a tool you could buy. It would need to be more sophisticated. There has to be an axial adjustment or rotational to pickup the thread start.
the clocks and watches i had when i was young needed to be reset every few days by the pipps on the radio ... they weren't all that accurate ..so you should be good
As someone who was a die Maker for fifty years my hat off to you cause I've always had a lathe boy I just can't see me ever doing that but if there's a Will there's a way
oh my god I always wanted to do this and you helped me bro. You are such a genius 👏 ❤🇮🇷 Wait Wait wait 🤔: I have to say something about this video: bro, to do this, you have to machine the rod to the right size for threading, so you absolutely need a lathe😂😂😂.
Kind of get the idea but you might try a lubricant of some kind? Stuck on a desert island and with no machine tools this would work well enough being, in principle, a 'thread-copier' so not that outlandish. Keep up the good work!
Impressive. Imagine what they’ll be able to do when they discover welding masks, welding gloves, shoes, cutting oil, cobalt drills, and tungsten carbide! This one has already discovered the work bench, and vise. 😮
In most places, 50mm bar stock is available from your nearest metal supplier. However the same trick shown in the video, with a flat ended tool, will reduce stock to the right diameter (you could rough most of it off with an angle grinder first), AND render it perfectly concentric with the axis of the bolt, and hence, the thread (which is the main difficulty with this method.) Alternatively, if the stock you had was just a bit oversize, you could simply use the V tool, which would eventually produce sharp tipped threads and get rid of the excess stock outside their intersection. Following which a bit of to and fro with a length of emery cloth would remove the sharp tips allowing the nut to run on. Hey presto!
After seeing the video, i just ordered my first lathe. You're the best lathe salesman.
😅👍👍💐💐
Thanks
"Your ingenuity and resourcefulness in getting the job done without the proper tools is truly impressive! Great job on the repair!"
Thank you my friend 💐💐❤️
This îs How you repair the thread on a trailer Axel, And it îs used for 40 years ago 😄
@Vcatalin7 👍
Long ago threads were filed with a triangular file after the helix had been 'set out'.
In those days marking tools & a file were the 'proper equipment'!
By the time you get centered and get the cutter at the correct angle
As a Machinist with all kinds of cool gadgets and the ability to make jewel like threads...
I giggled at your ingenuity here, Very Cool man!
Thank you my friend 💐👍
That job is crying for oil.
😅
Yes, any kind of oil. Cooking oil, new motor oil, used motor oil or some form of grease would also help.
The threads might have been ok if he used oil or maybe a lathe!!
It's a demo of a principle. There are unlimited ways it could be improved, but surely that's beside the point?
Nice try Diddy… 😂
Wether or not it's practical, you took this idea from impossible to possible, and that's a big step.
Thanks bro 👍💐
I can see ways to improve this but I never would have come up with it on my own. Genius, and adaptable to any thread pitch or diameter. Nicely done!
Thanks 👍💐💐
To all the people saying I would take it to a machinist.. shut up and go watch Martha Stewart bake a cake... This video is for the men that can fix anything with limited tools and have the mindset to get anything done.
Bravo sir👍 I can see myself doing this one day to atleast clean up a hard to find large fine thread bolt or barrel. Thank you for the great idea.
Thank you for the support 👍💐❤️
The Mother of inventions is a NEED. Well executed man.
Thank you 👍💐
It got made and works.
I’m impressed, wouldn’t have thought of this. Well done!
💐💐❤️❤️
Machinist of 37 years here. Was this the right way? No. Would it get you out of a tight spot in the apocalyptic scenario? Yes.
💐💐
@@innovationtime20which part exactly isn't the right way you mean?
It shows the man has understanding if thread geometry.
One can modify this approach to specific situation. With or without welding. Greater precision - with use of indicator to align the bolt. Thread attachment can be more or less precisely/sturdy reusable, if more threads has to be cut. Adjustable - for different threads.
I don't see anything "not the right way", but I'm not a machinist of 37 yrs..
So please share with us how would you do that the right way.
Just don't tell us to use your high precision lathe, cnc machine, computerised mill and so on
@@littleblom The right way is using any one of the machines and some other equipment you don't want to be told about. As he says it may get you out of shit in a situation where no equipment is available. Even though the nut fits does not mean it's correct. He is using a bolt with the same pitch as a guide and there is always a fair bit of clearance between the nut and bolt which can effect the thread accuracy even if the tool is sharpened to correct angle. The most important of all thread depth is purely a guess since he has nothing to control the depth of cut. By no means I'm putting him down actually it's a very genius idea when no other options available.
This is from a machinist of 47 years.😊
That's damn cool.
I've read about similar methods and seen diagrams 30~40 years ago but seeing your video is much better and very easy to understand.
I may even try it .
💐💐👍👍
This is the craziest method of metal work I've ever seen. But interesting to see how ordinary parts lik screws and nuts can be used in "mad max style" to create something new. Its really inspiring my brain how a universal tool should be look like to cutting outer threads on tubes.
Innovation Level: 10/10👍
Thank you my friend 💐❤️
This is something definitely to be considered in some circumstances. Made me also understand how a lathe works for threads, which I never thought about. Beforehand, I'm obviously neither a fabricator nor a machinist.
👍💐💐
They say where there’s a will there’s away. Good job. I’ll remember this for the apocalypse
👍💐💐
Excellent video, job well done. Thanks for sharing.Cheers
I was going to comment but I'm done....😂😂
💐💐❤️❤️
Very clever; one of your best tool builds. We shared this video on our homemade tool forum last week, and people really liked it. 😎
Thanks 👍💐
Definitely different from the norm!!! But great idea for when you don't have access to the proper tools or equipment. 😊 Human ingenuity is endless and amazing!
Thanks 👍💐💐
In a pinch that’s a great idea,smart thinking
Thanks 👍💐
Very clever! I don't have that much patience. 👍🍻
Thank you 🙏💐
That’s a very cool idea 💡. Thanks for sharing.❤
💐💐❤️❤️
Thanks!
Thank you dear Russell Williams 🙏🙏💐💐
Clever one-off, but did you ever hear the phrase, "Work smarter not harder"? Because, man, I'm not sure which of those that was 😃!
If you'd center-punched and drilled the piece you'd threaded, it would have been easier to locate your cutter's rotator shaft. Now you got me thinking of ways to make something like that reusable. Definitely ingenious, though.
I have a small hobby lathe (Sieg C6 clone), but you know, that rig you made would be absolutely invaluable on a field site or with something too large to fit the lathe. The hard part would be finding a "driveshaft" and nut of the correct thread pitch.....but one could turn something like that on a smaller lathe, then put this rig onto the larger object that needed threaded. So yeah, it definitely has applications.
Thank you my friend
Good idea 👍
💐💐💐🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️
People are clueless as ever when they recommend using cutting oil and all that.
This was a demonstration on the working principles of the tool, he doesn't need that part he just showed you how it works. It's up to you to improve it based on your needs.
Thanks 👍💐
I agree. It's particularly prevalent on YT short clips, don't you find?
I see it as attention seeking behaviour.
Like that obnoxious kid who always butts in, attempting to outdo the person talking and seize the limelight.
Congratulations, your skills show how possible we can adapt ourselves or world around of us with minimum materials to achieve our goals.
😊💐💐
Well done ,.. when people have no power ,.. they will appreciate this video .
Thanks 👍
How will they weld without power?
@seabell who says it has to be welded,.. you never built anything without welding ??
Lol
Oh wait solar panels ,..
Pretty ingenious!
Thanks 👍
Good engineering this makes me remember 52 years ago when I used to work as engineer on old 600 tons cargo vessel ,in thoes days we did not had modern tools like now but 100 % durable tools not like now with one time used tools before you have to trow it away and replace it .
💐💐❤️❤️
Lubricant on the bolt threads will make it easier to turn and cutting oil when cutting the threads will give you a better finish 😊
Thanks for the tip 🙏💐
Mate I am impressed, what a brilliant idea. Many many thanks. Jim from Australia.
Thank you dear Jim 🙏💐
Definition of a resourceful backyard/treeshade/machinist/millwright/bush mechanic of some sort, whatever you want to call him. Getting job done more important how it's done.
👍💐
You are just a genius!
Thanks for the wonderful idea and video!
💐💐❤️❤️
Necessity is the mother of invention.
❤️
it sure is ..
So..tomorow I' ll be busy during my regular job.This time just for me alone, not for my chief.
You are s genius!
Thanks 🙏💐💐
Absolutely fantastic. Only a genius would think of that.
Thanks 👍💐
Very good stuff. So glad to see this. Thank you 👍
💐💐❤️❤️
I have small trailer whose threads I need to re-work. I will follow the same example. As per advises elsewhere in these thread, am going to drill a hole in the centre to anchor my tool.
👍❤️
Man I love watching your videos I've learned so many more cool tricks and techniques off of your videos then most ppls videos! Thanks!
💐💐❤️❤️
Clever work! You got it done with what you had. 👍🏻🙂
👍❤️
Hey at least he did get it done. Pretty easy to sit in front of your computer and rag on people for actually accomplishing a task.
💐💐
Well said!!!
this shows that no machine can stop human intelligence, well done
By the way, men create the machines so they are reflection of our intelligence
Thanks bro 👍💐
Thats very good craftsmanship.
❤️
Very cool, you got it done, it doesn't matter how you did it, it's the fact you did it. I grew up poor and I would do things like this. Now I have the fancy lathes and milling machines. But this is good for someone who doesn't have the fancy equipment. You could even make your tool adjustable for different threads. Well done!
Thank you my friend 💐💐
Great idea! That is resourcefulness in action.🌞
Thanks! 🙏💐
fantastic ideas, thanks for sharing
💐💐❤️❤️
this make me believe in magic, thats how awesome this is!
❤️
Wow! Great idea!
Thank you! 😊
Only a toolmaker could think out of the box to pull off this idea, looks simple, yet brilliant
Thank you dear John 💐
It's actually similar to 'threading engines' of early 18th century before screw cutting lathes with a full lead-screw were 'invented'
@@1crazypj yep totally agree with you, whats old is new again, great tricks of the trade, handy hack for one off jobs
El concepto es realmente interesante.
Gracias por compartir
Thanks 👍💐❤️
How to make a thread without a die and lathe but you need a welder 😆
😅👍
God made a tool just for this job. It’s called a machinist.
❤️
Awesome concept...!! I think I'll build one...!!
💐💐
The idea is very nice! And well done for good gentrification!
Thank you 🙏
Interesting approach, This is one that I've never seen. Thank You
💐💐💐
Very nice a clever idea!!!!!!! Thank you for showing us your skill.
Thanks for watching! 🙏💐
Oil or not. Great job. 🤔👌
😅
What a clever man ! 👍
💐💐❤️❤️
Very clever
Sure deserves a like
Thanks 👍
Love it. But use some oil on the cutter. Any oil is better than none. Used engine oil if nothing else.
Yup why no cutting oil???
Thanks dear Steve 🙏
This is a great idea as say a final test in a fab course. I will also mention the by 3:06 you showed me something I have never even thought of in 30 years. I am seriously impressed..Thanks.
Thanks! 🙏💐
Friggin awesome!
❤️❤️💐💐
Very innovative idea,
Not a bad outcome.
But still needed a lathe to machine the shaft to the required diameter.
Using some sort of oil or cutting fluid would have made for a much better finish.
Good stuff mate
Thank you 🙏💐
Given that shafting is generally made in standard thread diameters, I don't see why a lathe would be necessary
@@Gottenhimfella Std stock is not generally sized for proper thread cutting without a cleanup at least.
I was referring to this video and is clearly not a std piece of bar and can see that this piece has clearly been turned in the lathe albeit rough as guts.
Still, clearly a very novel way of cutting a thread and a brilliant idea, something I would never have thought of.
I have to admit, I watched the video from start to finish in one take because I wanted to see if I could work it out in my head before there was enough info in the video.
I was way into the video before I worked out how he was going to do it.
Thinking out of the square and the mother of necessity very often comes up with very different ways of getting a job done.
But of course, if you can cut a thread in this manner then you could turn the material to size using this same method.
Kudos to this man.
@@ScatManAust This is just a demo of a concept, surely.
I suppose he could have bought a piece of bar the right size to suit the bearing locknut he already had, in case someone wanted to raise a (somewhat pointless) quibble... which this page is replete with.
As for turning barstock before threading it, when it's already the right size (which, except in the case of cold rolled, is usually the case) I'm not sure that makes sense, except in a tool and gauge shop (where they never use "right size" stock anyway). And if it's oversize, even a V tool taken to the right pitch diameter (I presume you use thread wires, given you seem rather proactive) will simply create sharp-topped crests but a correct thread form, and a wipe with a file, followed by a trial fit of the matching female thread, and a few more swipes if necessary, will quickly remedy the OD.
I don't see why you couldn't use the same basic method, using a cutter of a different shape, to cut the shaft down to the required diameter first. Just more sweat and time involved.
I have been around engineering most of my life and have never come across this before and doubt I would have thought of it
Where there is a will there is a way when needs must
👍💐
This is out of the box clever but if there’s no lathe, how is the OD rendered to size?
Exactly
You are right
This method is usually done to repair the shaft in place, the shaft does not need to be resized. 👍
@ Then I would expect this tool to be a tool you could buy. It would need to be more sophisticated. There has to be an axial adjustment or rotational to pickup the thread start.
👍
This is actually really cool to think about and definitely something that might save my ass in the future
👍💐💐
Shop made thread tool, great work😊
💐💐❤️❤️
Nice job really. You've basically built on open Die.
Thank you 🙏
Man you top notch I've seen alot of nice work this is up there awesome job
Thank you dear James 💐
"How to make thread without die and lathe machine"
Step 1: Machine a part to major diameter size with lathe
Yes, exactly 👍
You got me 💐
But this month used for repair shafts in place that are seized before 😉
Genius! I can use this approach for watch and clock work! Thanks so much!
👍💐
the clocks and watches i had when i was young needed to be reset every few days by the pipps on the radio ... they weren't all that accurate ..so you should be good
great idea.
Thanks 👍
As someone who was a die Maker for fifty years my hat off to you cause I've always had a lathe boy I just can't see me ever doing that but if there's a Will there's a way
👍💐
oh my god I always wanted to do this and you helped me bro. You are such a genius 👏 ❤🇮🇷
Wait Wait wait 🤔:
I have to say something about this video: bro, to do this, you have to machine the rod to the right size for threading, so you absolutely need a lathe😂😂😂.
مرسی حمید جان 💐💐
واقعا کارت عالی بود دم شما گرم❤@@innovationtime20
سپاس 🙏 💐
البته من یه ماشین تراش هم دارم که اونم دست سازه ، ویدیوش توی کانال هست 👍
@innovationtime20
دوست عزیز یک سال پیش اون ویدیو رو دیدم ویدیو ساخت دستگاه پرس هم دیدم عالی بود کارت درسته.👏🙏❤️
@Hamid-az 🙏🙏💐💐
Remarkable! You are very skilled!
Thank you 🙏💐
Loved watching this!
Thanks 👍💐💐❤️❤️
I'm working on my legs, so I'll just cycle to the machine shop and have them cut a thread. Good luck with your pecs!
😅💐💐
I learned something today. I never would've thought of that
👍❤️
MashAllaha ,out class ,out of box, ❤
Thanks 👍😊💐💐
Very clever well done...
Thank you 👍
Bravo necessity is the mother of invention congrats you prove it
Thanks 👍💐💐
nice idea !
💐👍❤️
I was doubtful but ended in nodding my head like “Great fk’ng Job!” Haha. Nicely done
Glad you enjoyed it! 👍💐
A bit time consuming but it done the job quite well 😊
Thanks 👍
Great idea. Impressive
Thank you 🙏💐
Haha....pretty clever 😊
Thank you 🙏💐
Very clever!
Thank you! Cheers!
Kind of get the idea but you might try a lubricant of some kind?
Stuck on a desert island and with no machine tools this would work well enough being, in principle, a 'thread-copier' so not that outlandish.
Keep up the good work!
Thank you my friend 💐👍
Wow that’s impressive!
💐
Great idea well done ❤
Thank you! 😊
You are a genius…..
Thank you my friend 💐
Too cool, I love it
❤️❤️
Impressive. Imagine what they’ll be able to do when they discover welding masks, welding gloves, shoes, cutting oil, cobalt drills, and tungsten carbide! This one has already discovered the work bench, and vise. 😮
Thank you 🙏💐
I think work is difficult and sensitive butt you can complete easily. Shabash good
Thank you dear Muhammad 💐🙏
absolute genious, I'b be interested to see something similar for internal threads, I need to make a 2 1/4" BY 8tpi thread
The internal thread is completely different, I will think about it 😉
Thank you for your comment 💐
Would be relatively simple as long as close tolerances were not needed. Otherwise, have a friend with a lathe do it.
Bravo!
💐💐❤️❤️
Impressive stuff!
🙏💐
Great job man
Thanks 👍💐
You still need a lathe to turn the blank to the proper OD... 🤔
Exactly 👍
But this month used for repair shafts in place that are seized before
In most places, 50mm bar stock is available from your nearest metal supplier. However the same trick shown in the video, with a flat ended tool, will reduce stock to the right diameter (you could rough most of it off with an angle grinder first), AND render it perfectly concentric with the axis of the bolt, and hence, the thread (which is the main difficulty with this method.)
Alternatively, if the stock you had was just a bit oversize, you could simply use the V tool, which would eventually produce sharp tipped threads and get rid of the excess stock outside their intersection. Following which a bit of to and fro with a length of emery cloth would remove the sharp tips allowing the nut to run on. Hey presto!
Brilliant !
❤️
That is both cool, and an enormous pain in the ass.
💐
That pretty clever
💐💐