088 Former ATF Agent Talks about ATF Corruption
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- Опубліковано 17 бер 2024
- Former ATF agent Lou Valoze talks about his time in the ATF, the jobs that he had and the leadership that went to shit during the Obama ministration.
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Useless agency, should have been disbanded immediately after Waco, TX.
Should never have been created. Its origins - of course - were in taxation.
Ruby Ridge.
100%
Should should should
dimocraps thought waco justified more atf and voted to that end. daily reminder, dimocrps are not your friends and never will be. they are opposed to your existence and way of life
The ATF served a warrant on my grandfather's house (WWII Colonel) and robbed him of several gold coins. F the ATF & FJB
Sometimes it’s as simple as the local RAIC or ASAC just wants to steal something from innocent people.
and FDT too. Don't forget the fascist criminals!! :)
Lol, no they didn't 😂
@@YeetCannon254would it really be a surprise if they did?
@@YeetCannon254how the boot taste?🐑🐑🐑
“I was just following orders “ That’s what the natzis said. No Quarter.
Nazi? Never heard of a natzi
Robf
You can’t spell it the way you did. That’s why he said natzis or nazzzis etc. the algorithm or nsa can read your comment and literally hide comments,
You mean the actual good guys who were literally fighting against EVERYTHING we see now? Those guys?
I'd bet my life if allied soldiers could see their Country's now, they'd be saying how they regret fighting against them and wish they did the Communist USSR and Israeli's. Sorry, I repeated myself
@dtcdtc8328 you really are confused on history.
@@robf4605 maybe you should look into what I said , guaranteed you will find I am not the ones confused.
JFK, 911, J6, coof, the jab. 81M votes , global warming and you still believe your History.
"We destroyed what was a great race of people and now all of Europe is destined to become Communist" General Patton
"Israeli intelligence has done more harm and more damage to the US than ALL the world's intelligence agencies COMBINED" Admiral Bobby Inman former Deputy Director of the CIA stated under oath during a Senate hearing in 1991. Yea, I'm thr confused one
Any agent, wether it's ATF, FBI, CIA, etc... that stays in when they know about the corruption and swore an oath but chooses to stay is picking career over Country is culpable.
They are just as guilty as the ones they arrest 😂😂
Including this evil creature!
you're a goof.
@@wadegrubich8258 that not what you're moma said
If they don’t stay who is gonna blow the whistle if they load up these places with people that hate this country all you have are more enemies with less to worry about from the inside. There must be a balance leadership changes the only constant is the lower levels just look at Congress and the presidency
Not to be a wet blanket about, "It's the leadership", but it isn't the leadership doing the raids. When I took my oath, it included my ability to disobey an unlawful or unconstitutional order. If the field agents said no, it wouldn't happen. So, my guess is, they've replaced all the field agents with what could only be described as TSA agents, rule followers with no ability to discern or think outside of their little box. If you're following the order, YOU'RE the problem.
Absolutely. Well put
IMO your right and your wrong-
Right = it’s field agents doing the raids but not necessarily choosing the targets or the focus / areas of investigations.
ATF has 2500 Special Agents/criminal investigators. FBI has 25,000.
Choosing people to investigate = some do as I did prioritize cases pick the most violent offenders.
90% of ATF cases = some variation of FELON IN POSSESSION of firearms. To many felons in possession cases to write all - so priority = people that hurt other people in possession of firearms. Wrote cases for 21 years and never ran out of work.
But with every new president = new priority’s = now ATF leaders focus is on FFLs.
Most agents will ignore and keep writing felon in possession cases cause it’s righteous work and needs to be done.
Some will investigate FFLs. So what? If I’m an FFL I’m by the book 100%. I’m not selling under the counter adding guns to 4473 s.
I’m not selling 5 of the same make and model hand gun to a college age girl with CASH 3 times a month…
I’m not loosing paper work ever…
@@martye3187 except private sales are constitutional, selling the same gun to whoever 100,000 times a month in cash is constitutional, "loosing" your paperwork? lmao definitely an atf agent right here. atf agents are no knocking (violates the 4th amendment) airport security personnel at 6am and murdering them.....save your propaganda, everyone hates you atf tyrannical fu cks and no amount of quoting unconstitutional laws will change that.....constitution > all other laws
@@martye3187doesn't matter if they picked the target. If they execute the unconstitutional acts, they are more at fault than leadership. The foot soldiers are the most tyrannical. Just following orders doesn't fly.
@@1776AxlePowerDM
How is anything done in the situation noted UNCONSTITUTIONAL? Explain.
Leadership doesn’t kick doors on raids, leadership doesn’t take the shot on a pregnant woman, leadership doesn’t go out and enforce unjust and unconstitutional policies… and if you know it’s not right but do it anyway then you’re just as complicit.
The ATF needs to be abolished and defunded one 100% no business mandating shit
Yeah idc if the guy is coming clean, he’s still the enemy
💯
I agree
TAXPAYER FUNDED ENEMY . STOP THE CASH FLOW SHUT THEM DOWN
Abolish the unconstitutional ATF!
“I had to start small and early on learning how to violate citizens Constitutional rights.”
All the most prolific criminals wear a badge.
you're an idjit. people in management responsible for these policies, which carry effect across entire populations never wear a badge. it's important to think critically about what you're saying instead of trying to sound cool. enforcement officers are small fish compared to directors, supervisors, and department of justice leads
when has obama, fauci, biden, fani willis, or eric holder, etc, etc ever worn a badge? policies come before enforcement. try to make sense instead of trying to sound cool
@@cagneybillingsley2165 Touche'!!!!Brother
@@cagneybillingsley2165 “The order follower *always* bears MORE moral culpability than the order giver, because the order follower actually *takes the action*, and in taking such action, brings the resultant harm into physical manifestation. Order following is the pathway to every form of evil and chaos in our world. It should *never* be seen as a “virtue” by anyone who considers themselves a moral human being. Order followers have ultimately been *personally responsible and morally culpable* for every form of Slavery and every single Totalitarian regime that has ever existed upon the face of the Earth.” ~Mark Passio
@@cagneybillingsley2165 turns out, both you and khester are correct.
Your job was repugnant to the constitution, and I hope no one becomes an ATF agent ever again, and this rogue agency is disbanded forever
AMEN!
ATF stands for Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms. Why don't they take the alcohol and tobacco out of their name? They don't seem to do anything except go after firearms.
Alcohol- ATF regulates alcohol to this day but only in a regulatory way. They collect taxes n do licensing for breweries n distilleries. ATF has a branch of INSPECTORS that are 100% regulatory. Special Agents do criminal investigations.
Same with tobacco- ATF Licenses and inspects for compliance.
Explosives = violent crime = why ATF investigates along with FBI if it’s domestic terror related.
Arson- violent crime -
Firearms - violent crime- the lions share of cases are here bc there are so many FELON IN POSSESSION of Firearms In the U.S. committing crime.
I was a ATF Special Agent for 21 years.
Felons have no right to possess guns - these are the ppl we sent to prison 98% of the time.
There are so many FELONS in possession of guns caught each year - ATF cannot write all the cases… so we prioritize the MOST VIOLENT= most dangerous felons 1st n work through them to less violent felons.
The violent crime rate would be double but for the people ATF has sent to prison.
The “AGENCY” enforces U.S. CODE. Even if ATF no longer exists SOME AGENCY will enforce those sections of the U.S. CODE.
ATF does more to keep GUNS in hands of LAW ABIDING CITIZENS than any other AGENCY. How? We/I go after the VIOLENT criminals that get caught with guns. The 5% that do 95% of the crime.
If the people we put in prison were on the street = the VIOLENT crime rate WOULD BE DOUBLE.
ATF does not get along with other federal agency’s = We are the LAST OF THE FEDERAL POLICE. We work with State and local police to target violent criminals.
If the criminals are not DANGEROUS ATF has no business investigating them. Cannot get them all so we prioritize MOST VIOLENT 1st and work the rest when we can.
There is some degree of corruption in all agencies. If discovered, you drop the bad actors in the grease n uphold your oath. Move on to the next violent bad guy knowing you are doing good, protecting the public and making all safer.
WACO = a tragedy ATF would have never been involved in BUTFOR Branch Dividians began remanufacturing GRENADES. The FBI took over after the shooting started = they burned the complex ACCIDENTALLY.
Ruby Ridge= THAT WAS 100% FBI.
@@martye3187 today it does all it can to arrest Legal owners . That is their mission right now. Removing them from Americans. Your deteriorating leader even set up new national centers for expressly that purpose.
@@martye3187 maybe once upon a time there was an ounce of dignity in your former position. But today's atf spends more time and taxpayer money pursuing and imprisoning law abiding citizens and demonizes gun owners. Not help them. Public servants that pretend to serve the public but prey on them just as often at the "bad guys" they supposedly "go after"
@@martye3187 usc 18 241 is a felony to deprive a citizen of their rights by conspiracy involving 2 or more people and thankfully since agencies operate under a chain of command would always involve more than 1 person..........maybe read your own fucking code fed, since your moral compass is fucked
@@martye3187basically just KGB for the west
"The world needs men like us." A sentiment repeated by every violent narcissist and order-follower in human history.
Beta 👆🏻
bobmephitis8206, you have the freedom of speech because violent men do violent things so you do.
@@stevehicks8944 no, that's not why.
@@mrt2this607without violence of action, the constitution/bill of rights are just words on paper. We don’t keep our rights based on diplomacy. We keep them with force…same force others would use to take them. That’s a fact proven by history.
@@DukeReynoldsAMEN.
At no point in this video did anyone talk about ATF corruption. They talked about the current direction and current leadership ideology, but not corruption. Misleading title for sure. Click bait.
Thank you for saving me the time
Totally agree.
I don't want anyone to think I am pro ATF. While I agree they do some good work in some areas, I completely disagree with the way they are treating law-abiding citizens, the unchecked master authority they seem to have when creating and enforcing their own "rules" that they treat as laws. No law enforcement agency in the world should be allowed to create and then enforce their own rules. This is why there are checks and balances, a city, county, or federal government body propose laws, the public is then tasked with voting on those laws or the representatives they voted into office are tasked with voting on those laws and then the law enforcement agency is then tasked with enforcing those laws that are voted in. ATF seems to create "rules" enforceable by law. This is not the way this country is set up. No free citizen would agree to this type of law enforcement.
And now I am on a list somewhere and that's fine. See ya when I see ya...
Thank you! I was half way thru and wondering when the corruption talk would start.
Thanks for saving me time. I'm 5 minutes in.
Ha! You made a name for yourself working for a government agency that exists to infringe the 2A….. which says “shall not be infringed”…..
You helped perfect their tactics.
Which is now used against Americans.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 bravo
Bingo
Most Americans don't know that israeli intelligence officials are the ones training ATF, fbi on how to violate Americans rights. You know ISRAEL who WASHINGTON DC FINANCIALLY rapes Americans out of HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of dollars every year for ISRAEL. Israel who has several israeli CITIZENS sitting in the United States Congress, senate and other WASHINGTON DC CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE agencies. Israel who the United States military protects instead of the UNITED STATES that AMERICAN'S are FINANCIALLY RAPED out of hundreds of billions of dollars to fund every year.
Americans work,labor to fund israel,jewish conquest
I was a ATF Special Agent for 21 years.
Felons have no right to possess guns - these are the ppl we sent to prison 98% of the time.
There are so many FELONS in possession of guns caught each year - ATF cannot write all the cases… so we prioritize the MOST VIOLENT= most dangerous felons 1st n work through them to less violent felons.
The violent crime rate would be double but for the people ATF has sent to prison.
The “AGENCY” enforces U.S. CODE. Even if ATF no longer exists SOME AGENCY will enforce those sections of the U.S. CODE.
Hmmm FBI? FBI has 25,000 Agents - would you rather have a small agency (ATF has 2500+/- Agents) with limited resources enforcing gun statutes or a huge corrupt agency with unlimited budget?
Unless we get rid of CURRENT Gun statutes = ain’t gonna happen.
SOME agency will always enforce them.
Hey everyone, I found the ATF boot licker @ martye3187
The ATF is just another unconstitutional domestic TERRORIST agency that's being used to attack,imprison, murder, FINANCIALLY RAPE Americans and trample Americans 2nd amendment ,constitutionally protect rights.
Their taking it upon themselves to make up their own gun laws to force on Americans, that their wanting to imprison innocent Americans on and have used unconstitution gun laws for
excuses to go after innocent Americans that's ended in the murder of innocent Americans.
So your damn straight the ATF needs to be abolished NOT just defunded but all together abolished! The NFA is nothing but UNCONSTITUTIONAL garbage that's only purpose is to be used to FINANCIALLY RAPE Americans for exercising their rights, a gun registry,NFA is not based on anything in history,past that makes it legal, constitutional. If you got the money you can have more gun rights, willing to pay to be able to own certain guns.
And another thing you ain't a former ATF domestic TERRORIST you still are. Only you may not be getting the taxpayer funded welfare check for being a ANTI constitution, anti American unelected BUREAUCRAT who thinks they have legal authority over other Americans and has the right to tell other Americans what inalienable, God given rights they have and don't have. Oh wait! I bet you are still getting taxpayer funded benifits for being a so called retired ATF marxist.
How does his story of going after cartel operatives (foreigners and their agents) equal going after law-abiding citizens? He even talks a little about how he disagrees with the current trajectory of the ATF. Dumb comment. I can give credit where credit is due and put blame when and where necessary. You cannot.
Abuse, corruption, shameful
Hundreds of billions of dollars wasted on buying guns and drugs and what did it get us? Agree w Vivek here.
18 years the ATF is corrupt and yet he didnt go after the corruption. Real integrity
"Operation Thunderbolt" One of the lead case agents was Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Special Agent Lou Valoze, who had an affair with the prosecutor, Assistant U.S. Attorney Cameron Ippolito. After the U.S. attorney informed them of the affair, Wood and the other judges in the district ordered a complete review of all the cases on which Ippolito and Valoze had collaborated. They had worked together on three storefront operations.
Talk about a distorted view of yourself, Lou.
The LA RAIC, George Gillett, raped a female employee in his office and was under investigation for sexual harassment when they moved him over the Phoenix ASAC. He helped Eric Holder run Fast & Furious out of Phoenix, and even sold his FN FiveSeven to a cartel straw buyer. That pistol showed up in Mexico at a murder scene of a beauty queen. He then moved to Main office in DC.
More people need to know this story. I wonder why this wasn’t brought up in the “interview” 😂
The U.S. Attorney's Office came up with 200 cases on which they worked together and identified 132
Thanks. This guy has slimeball written all over him. You just confirmed what I was trying to look past.
I hope that people see this.
Much like the ones trying to arrest their main opponent, who are all apparently screwing each other.
@@letsdothis9063 👊
Integrity is everything to oath takers… without it, you’re done.
Both federal and state officers are required to take oaths pledging to uphold the Constitution as part of the duties of the office they hold. In addition, the federal government may require state officers to enforce federal laws within their state…
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I, ______________________, do solemnly affirm to support the Constitution of the United States, the Constitution of the State of Minnesota, and to discharge faithfully the duties of Police Officer, for the City of X, to the best of my knowledge and ability, So help me God.
Or
I, ______________________, do solemnly affirm to support the Constitution of the United States, the Constitution of the State of Minnesota, and to discharge faithfully the duties of Police Officer, for the City of X, to the best of my knowledge and ability, and this I do under the penalties of perjury.
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ATF agents strike me as bikers with badges or operators who have gone corrupt. A different kind of organization for sure.
They are not human.
They're loyal guys who work for old school organized crime families that took over the US during the Depression.
The RAICs and ASACs are all Mafia-connected. If you look at their last names, they're all Italians and Irish with Russian Jew attorneys, same as the 1920s.
If you show this history to ATF agents, they will have an a ha moment.
You don't anything about them
I am a biker. Gun owner.Dont fu#kin confuse me with the ATF !!!! Fu#kin Douchbag
There is nothing different about them. Organized crime syndicates have been around forever. This one just happens to be tax payer funded government. When they do crime its just called law enforcement. The most blatant example of RICO violations you will ever see.
There's no such thing as a FORMER ATF agent
This! Dudes a bozo no way around it
@FirstMilitia434 Living in your mom’s basement, are ya?
very random accusation@@robdunham7398 Anything to back that up or you just used to being on your knees for anything federal
@@robdunham7398 CCP
@robdunham7398 and you bootlick up their sht huh
Law enforcement have been kicked in the balls The Last 5 Years?, the people have been pushed on the ground and kicked in the teeth.
12:00 an ATF guy and a special operations guy comparing notes. Both noticed that things started going to shit when Obama got in.
Communism destroys everything
Sure..............long before that
@@johnlecaJanet Reno, John Brennan, James Comey, Robert Mueller, Bush/Obama/Biden ATF, all Scumbags who made the FBI CIA DHS ATF into Traitors who Murdered Americans & Burned Children & Suffocated Infants with Tear Gas & Committed War Crimes & Stole More Land from Americans! Remember Lavoy Finicum & the Bundy Ranch Family!
Infants suffocated from excess mucus from CS Gas, Tear Gas, Pepper Spray! Newborns can’t breathe through their mouths until they’re 3-4 months old. They literally choke & suffocate because of the lung irritation & excess mucus from tear gas. How many infants have the Feds Killed!!!
Obama changed the Rules of Engagement for Our Military, causing our guys to get Killed & put into the Brig for Killing ISIS, Taliban, AlQAeda Terrorists & Bomb Makers. Obama changed FBI Directives in the training manuals. They couldn’t say Islamic Extremist Terrorists. Something like that.
Anyway, Abolish the ATF.
Indeed,but they at least noticed at a certain point.Slow learning but they get it now
It did go to shit as he says when Obama got in…
He calls ATF agents his heroes and says working for them were the happiest years of his life... why hasn't he met the teeth of a woodchipper yet?
One question that should be asked of every applicant to the ATF is "Do you believe in the second amendment?" When the applicant answers yes, the response should be "Sorry, you're in the wrong place."
Making a name for yourself in the ATF isn't something to brag about.
ATF targets aka preys on the innocent and weak because they are the easiest to dominate.
BS. You have no idea what ATF does. You just think you know.
@@martye3187they just smoked a guy on a no knock warrant. Guy didn’t even have a criminal history!
@@glockdude5472
Correct- he was buying a crap load of AR 15s and then reselling at a GUN SHOW= DREW ATTENTION to himself with egregious public sale of multiple BLACK RIFLES - based on open source info some were recovered in CRIMES with a short TIME of PURCHASE to TIME of CRIME. = a Legitimate target IMO.
I don’t have all the facts - so I’m not second guessing anyone + HINDSIGHT = 20/20 but my first question = why did they not just wait till the guy left for work and do a car stop after he was away from home…. Or catch him in the parking lot at the airport. Dude went to work on the regular - right? Get keys to house and execute warrant.
Unless I’m missing something = it WAS NOT A NO KNOCK- it was a KNOCK AND ANNOUNCE = the type of warrant = irrelevant.
Once law enforcement made entry and received fire they had every right to return fire.
It is a tragedy that could have been avoided;
1. If subject had not engaged in activity leading to the warrant.
2. If different warrant execution option was chosen. However, the agents in the field don’t do anything without approval from 3 levels of management- so the AGENTS had to have articulated in WRITING the justification/reasons for the execution method AND management AGREED. There is a paper trail.
None of the above brings the subject back or makes his family whole again. It is an absolute tragedy.
@@martye3187 I'm sure the 26 children they burned alive in Waco, Texas are grateful to have been protected and served
Click bait bs show.
yup
I heard more about some company/product called Core than about corruption.
The ATF has never done anything good. That could not have been done better by local law enforcement.
So basically this was just an infomercial.
Defund or abolish the BATFE. they need to go away.
When you realize you just watched an ad
He blames it on the leaders. A leader is nothing if he has no one to lead. No sir you were an accomplice following orders. That excuse didn't work during the Nuremberg trials.
When O'ass-banana was in that's when the Cloward-Piven strategy kicked in ! #16yr.Plan
It's Obummer's Fundamental Transformation of the United States...
The president is not in control of the New World Order plan.
It moves forward regardless of who is elected to office.
Deep State is well entrench (NWO with dirt on most of them and threats made to others).
But, yes, Cloward-Pivens, Incrementalism, Compartmentalization . . . all favorite tools they use to control good guys to achieve their evil ends.
It's easier to see it now after things have progressed . As with a lot of stuff conspiracy theories are just spoiler warnings of what's to come.
He Should be in front of Congress exposing the Criminal Leaders
He should be in prison.
Congress works for organized crime. They already know who butters their bread. The truth is not welcome before any committee there.
Congress is just as corrupt
did you know usc 241 makes it a literal felony to deprive citizens of rights protected by the constitution by conspiracy involving 2 or more state actors? yup, oh wait, here comes qualified immunity.........if they dont follow the law why should i? raise the black
People don’t know the ATF uses RPGas an acronym. Rusty pheasant gun
It doesn't even take an interview to know this, but thanks for exposing the ATF from a personal account. We really need to repeal the NFA and abolish the ATF once and for all.
I didn’t know ATF agents knew the meaning of the word “Constitutionally protected”
So the new ATF director is not only anti gun but he's pro queer and had some Broke Dettlebach Obama roommate mountain going on😂 1 question? Did they share a tent😁
If you mean "did they share a pitched tent?" I would say yes. The atf is full of non-human, gross individuals.
Unfortunately law enforcement are kicking their own asses and they are their own worst enemy, because of the way they treat law abiding citizens!
Yeah. Randy Weaver was SUCH a bad guy!
8:00 “Able to do what you love to do.”
Oppress the citizenry?
Yes, and move us to where only the wealthy and politically connected will enjoy exercise of their 2A Rights. HARD AT WORK right now disarming as many Americans as they can. Hear about the Two New national centers that just got set up? They're Express purpose is this goal.
He also mentioned building his resume !!
The world needs stronger Christian men with morals integrity and standards that are willing to stand up to the corruption no matter what and do what's right even if it means losing your job or facing jail time at the end of the day everybody knows what's right and what's wrong. Any gun law is an infringement of your rights. Before we go promoting the law and law enforcement let's fix the law and the mindset of your average patrol officer especially in Florida.
cody, U can do nothing if in jail, "stinkin thinkin" there!
Never forget ATF on April 19 1993 raised a Battle Flag over the burned body’s of women and children #Sickening
What tricks, entrapment.🤪 False witnessing on the innocent. Sure, you got the people who were doing wrong, but probably just as many innocent.
When you have to give an agency three jobs to keep them busy, you don't actually need them. One officer in each county's sheriffs office, working in lockstep together, could accomplish more for less and keep infections from creeping in.❤️🙏⚖️
Atf needs to be disbanded and scattered to the wind
Having an affair with a district attorney can be exhausting mr valoze right ?
"Some great guys"😷i dont like this guy
7:49 Boy, I wonder why...
Its especially funny how you say "no one put a gun to your head" about doing the work then blame the leadership for the targeting of regular citizens. Remember, no one put a gun to your head so if you don't support what they want to do you can leave. The "bosses" demands are worthless without the individuals out in front doing the work. "Just following orders" has never been justification for wrongdoing.
let's face it without strong leadership nothing will last long
ATF = Always Think Forfeiture
The ultimate privilege: working for the US government. Never wrong, never own up, never serve time.
Never met a Fed I liked or trusted.
This dude is exactly the type we dont want in law enforcement. He got a rush from "chasing bad guys." I want people to enforce just laws because thats the right thing to do and they want to protect others.
Guys like this will follow orders and not really ever consider the citizens rights
Roids and tattoos.
I just retired from the military and TRT was a game changer when I got checked my total T was 82 and my free was 1! To having optimal levels now is a game changer. I was the same napping everyday never wanting to do anything to now constantly staying busy working on something nonstop, not including the health benefits.
Dettleback and his ATF just murdered a man in Little Rock!!! OUTRAGE!!!
Cops are doing some good and necessary work, but they have earned every bit of hate they are getting. Its just not a job you can get wrong. You cannot hate your country and be in law enforcement. Just like they said in the interview, the good ones don't stay.
When you notice the people are the good guys no matter what and they're all the bad guys, you'll start seeing things different.
It would save taxpayers 1.6 billion dollars annually if the ATF was dissolved. They gotta go. We don't need them and don't want them. Our Forefathers would be fucking hella disappointed to know we allowed agencies like the ATF and IRS to exist.
I was an 1811 S/A for DEA and U. Customs. Jay Dobbins, this man and current whistle blower are on the American peoples side. Us old dogs left and they went "woke". God Bless these men. It's the men like this who will stop whatever is coming.......
I've been studying the history of ATF for about 40 years and finally came to a harsh realization that was under our noses the whole time.
Look at their last names. They are literally Mafia connected loyal soldiers who crush small-time new entrants to markets that the families took control of during Prohibition.
It's a protection racket with Federal badges that has zero authority under the Constitution.
They've been passed back-and-forth by Treasury and DOJ, as they were originally formed under the Revenue Bureau's Alcohol Tax Unit during Prohibition.
ATU was the same: an enforcement arm of the crime families that shut down competition, then absorbed their networks so the regional bosses made more money.
Nothing is going to stop what is coming, American communism is her and it will only get worse for years to come
Anyone in a 3 letter agency is a traitor
You can't be serious 😅
@@brandonburns5365 100% serious.
I want to know what the X ATF agent thinks about red flag laws. And the fact that the ATF wont go after known gang members but will happily do no-knock raids on innocent families that own firearms?
This is beyond extremely dangerous. And it must be stopped by any means necessary.
The agents I've worked with are great..BUT The Agency as a whole is completely corrupt and needs to be shut down.
As a young gang detective, I had the opportunity to work with SA’s J. Ciccone, J. Carr, and E. Davis, stand up special agents that went after real criminals. Too bad the leadership sucks and redirected the agency’s attention toward otherwise law abiding everyday folks and started being politically driven to do asinine enforcement. Glad you both made it out, brothers.
I watched the first episode of Operation Undercover. If that dude is supposed to be the biggest dope dealer in Pickens, their dope problem is pretty small time. He’s an ounce dealer at best. Time to climb the ladder to the head supplier.
I’ve got mixed feelings about the flea market seller. My cop side says yes, I want everyone to get checked before being able to buy a gun, but the freedom loving American in me doesn’t believe the government has the right to tell me who I can sell my guns to and force me to ask permission to sell by getting an FFL. I had a partner’s son, who was a good street cop, get prosecuted and convicted for selling his personal firearms to people he knew were not “prohibited criminal persons.” If a criminal wants a gun, they will get one regardless of any laws you can write or enforce.
The flea market issue is not about individual selling a gun every blue moon. There are guys that buy 5 to 10 of the same handgun in a week and then sell them at the flea market the same week. These guys have over 100,000 traces to them personally Equals egregious offenders.
@@martye3187 OK, why do I need to have permission from the government to sell guns, however many I want to sell? It all comes down to government wanting their cut of a sell and have power over their subjects. It doesn't matter how many laws they make. There will always be an exploited loophole around the laws.
@@Mounty621
You don’t have to have a FFL to sell your personal guns.
Problem is define what “personal guns” means? Is that 10 a year? 20,30,40,50 guns a year?
At what point in your opinion does selling personal guns become a BUSINESS?
If you are buying guns and days later selling them for a PROFIT = a business.
Selling granddads shotgun to another private citizen = no problem.
Buying 5-10 of the same make model of handgun or rifle n selling them a few days later = business that you need a liscense for.
Guns are legal but are inherently dangerous just as other legal items for sale require a procedure/controlled process/license to protect the public.
1. Explosives require license
2. Gun sales requires license
3. Freon for home use requires license
4. Driving requires license
5. Boating requires license
6. Hunting requires license
7. Etc etc etc
@@martye3187 You're trying to educate the wrong guy. I understand all of that since I enforced the laws of CA for 30 years of my life. That doesn't mean every law is justified. It is all about government control and getting their pound of flesh from you in the form of taxes and fees, which they turn around and squander on everything except what they are supposed to be earmarked for.
@@Mounty621 10-4. Writing back and fourth = SUCKS. I can’t tell sarcasm from legit question. OMG. California LEO? It’s a wonder you don’t have ulcers.
I am happy for any LEO that “makes it”.
Reference Squandering = redistribution of wealth = $$ going to military industrial complex via Ukraine n every other proxy war for the last 50 years.
Reference laws - the U.S. Code is full of laws that should be reviewed n removed by Congress - they went after Trump with a law from the 1800’s= if it’s on the books they can use it no matter how outdated it is.
Reference AGENCY Administrative decisions that have the EFFECT OF LAW- too much of this with every fed agency (ATF, EPA ect) Bureaucrat “deciding” “X” meets the definition of a firearm so X lands someone in prison - I stayed away from cases like this. Used my discretion 100%.
Good dude. While I did Arson Investigation I teamed with several ATF guys. All but one were outstanding and he was a simply a nerd.
Got anything that doesn't suck?
Screw the ATF, THEY NEED TO BE DISBANDED
Legend goes that stripper is still in jail for assaulting a officer.
13:32 that's the fucking truth man. Marine Ramadi 2006 vet and trying to explain that to family and friends... I felt like they thought I was a serial killer. People don't understand the evil in the world.
Some people understand that the evil in the world exists becuase that evil justifies itself on the back of other evil. 9/11 was aknowledged as evil, but justified on US murder throughout the mideast, which was justifed on the existance of communist reform, which was justified on facist takeover, which was justified on monarchal corruption, which was justified on tribal feuding, etc...
Question: Does nobody at ATF who is planning a raid over a fucking piece of plastic or metal that’s the wrong shape or size ever step back to do a cost/benefit analysis on how they’re approaching it? It’s like they WANT a war…
Just remember when your would be director David Chipman stood and posed over the corpses of dead women and children
One thing i really liked that he said is that "we don't get the same recruits". I think that goes to the quality of people in law enforcement today.
Bro really said he learned from some real “pipe-hitters”? 😮
He hung out with Hunter?
Yeah...I caught some very "mafioso" language there.
That's how these dirt bags see themselves.
These are not good men.
It is a Military term not a drug reference. In the Marines we called SF community guys "pipe hitters" because they would go to the extreme beyond normal men to get the mission done. Basically saying motherfuckers like that would have to be on drugs to do that type of shit. It doesn't mean they literally use drugs.
Snake-eaters & pipehitters
It's hard to be an undercover cop you can get addicted to drugs working with drug dealers.
What is this Core you guys reference? I was retired and have been where you guys were.
As a general run of the mill civi that too suffers from the case of drag-ass, loves being an American, and well you can figure out the rest I genuinely appreciate men like you and listening to yall. I'm struggling, but to hear elite men (not just ripped influencers) talk about real shit is an absolute help. Thank you guys, and God bless you.
What’s this Core ? Link please
coremedicalgrp.com/nick/
didn't exist before the 70s. how you could do that job after reading the constitution is beyond me. i'm sorry about your service .
When the criminals ARE THE GOVERNMENT and they try desperately to justify it.
I’ve been on TRT for 2 years now, sadly I want to take a nap everyday and feel like I’m dragging ass everyday still. I wish I had these results.
Gents
Old school here, even though I was neither an operator or an ATF agent, I’m old enough to remember how and when things changed allowing what you’re both describing to happen. The regular military was being torn down going back to the Carter administration and even back to the 1950’s. High year tenure, piss tests, don’t ask don’t tell was used to polish their game before using it on the operator community and law enforcement.
The ATF is the modern day Gestapo...
These agencies act like we need them. An armed society can easily take care of itself. Currently the law enforcement agencies and department of justice get in the way of actual justice. Need to go back to 1776 mindset. Less is more
😮.
Don't you know ?
Arms are not a legal commodity.
They are: private- property.
You are making BIG mistakes by Registering your assets/arms.
Register= giving away.
You went from busting bad guys to being lead by them
No excuses for anyone being an ATF agent and operating with that agency.
These are the type of people that enforce a corrupt govts rules
Your explanation of the current ATF director makes things make more sense. 😢
Didn’t surprise me when said didn’t work out for my family but I got to do what I wanted to do, famous last words 😂
Did either of you guys help set up the OKC thing ? Did you know Carole Howe and Andy “the German” strausmeir ? Did either of you spend time at Elohim city ? How much notice did y’all get before the OKC thing ? I always wondered if it was kinda cutting it close or if y’all got the heads up a week in advance and could take your vacation ?
That ATF fellow ought to open a gun shop, so he can see what it's like on the receiving end of the true ATF
As a vet nick ,I'm floored your in the same room with this dude .but i do have confidence in you but bro ,who's to say this guy's not still hooked up
How many agents are going after switches?
None of them
Remember the Fed who left their location services on before putting up ads for Glock switches on Marketplace, and their geoposition was in a Fed bldg in DC?
@@LRRPFco52 HAHA what?? Thats hilarious!
@@jraddd3477 Not even kidding. ATF has been selling Drop-In Auto Sears in magazine ads for decades to entrap people as well. It was a well-known scheme in Shotgun News back in the day.
Then there's the store fronts they set up with mentally-deficient victims to sell guns and drugs. They even had one guy tattoo the name of the business on his forehead. These were adults who don't have legal capacity to sign contracts due to developmental disabilities, and extremely low IQ.
They did something similar back with PATCON in the late 1980s-early 1990s with a guy in Texas.
Question?
How do you know it's not the agency?
How do you know it's whatever the policy is?
Corp medical? Website?
Thanks , but when is part II --- when you get into the corruption ?
90% personal / 10% or less corruption --- again thanks
Remember WACO !!! The 500 children.
I came for the title and left with a deeper understanding of my health issues. Thanks for sharing.