Glock 46: A Revolutionary Design Change

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  • @gunsnek721
    @gunsnek721 6 місяців тому +3877

    So basically the one time Glock makes something different it's not for sale

    • @AudioGardenSlave123
      @AudioGardenSlave123 6 місяців тому +294

      Thankfully, cause that's one ugly and stupid design if I've ever seen one. Totally unnecessary 'improvements' just to get a police contract with really dumb stipulations.

    • @jongreen5638
      @jongreen5638 6 місяців тому

      Yea, but it's only different because evidently German police are to poorly trained to not shot themselves or anyone else

    • @konstantin.v
      @konstantin.v 6 місяців тому +58

      ☝️This! 😂

    • @jongustavsson5874
      @jongustavsson5874 6 місяців тому +250

      @@AudioGardenSlave123 Police handle guns daily but use them rarely, so reducing the chances of doing something dumb is a valid point.

    • @jonathanschubert9052
      @jonathanschubert9052 6 місяців тому +41

      The two times. Glock started making AR patterns for gubmint contract.

  • @hendersen7863
    @hendersen7863 6 місяців тому +862

    The Glock reps at shot show tried telling me this thing never existed and Glock has never made a rotating barrel pistol. They were all blown away when I showed them .

    • @deucedeuce1572
      @deucedeuce1572 6 місяців тому +101

      Yeah, I've had people argue with me that Glock never produced a model with a manual safety too, even though it's what the military required for their testing when they went against the P320.

    • @danieljuno810
      @danieljuno810 6 місяців тому +57

      They don’t want to admit to their monster child.😂

    • @hewdavies7733
      @hewdavies7733 6 місяців тому +49

      i mean a Glock USA sales rep isnt going to be all over their entire international catalouge, especially at a show aimed at the retail market.

    • @jonnyl2001
      @jonnyl2001 6 місяців тому +13

      Yeah. They probably never even thought about why the US market Glocks jumped from G45 to G48 for an elongated time period. The 47 did make it to consumers so maybe one day Glock will do the same with the 46.

    • @deucedeuce1572
      @deucedeuce1572 6 місяців тому +3

      @@troy3456789 I agree. (I think the Glock without a manual safety would have been the better choice, over a P320 with or without the safety). I think the P320 is a good handgun and I even argue that they're not unsafe like many people claim... but for Concealed Carry and for Military Sidearms, I think the Glock is the better option. (I also think the P320 will cost them more in the long run).

  • @Zach_Hazard
    @Zach_Hazard 6 місяців тому +1587

    I am so incredibly disappointed that there is a rotating barrel glock that I will never be able to get.

    • @danm7206
      @danm7206 6 місяців тому +97

      I'm sure Mike can find a mod for one

    • @L71gaming
      @L71gaming 6 місяців тому +43

      Love the campfire stories man keep it up.

    • @nothingtoseehere1221
      @nothingtoseehere1221 6 місяців тому +34

      Dank hazard spotted

    • @cnlbenmc
      @cnlbenmc 6 місяців тому +14

      It's Zach! How's the Fallout Enclave Run coming along?
      Edit; I'd love it if you somehow ever got to do an interview with Ian.

    • @Cyan-hide
      @Cyan-hide 6 місяців тому +12

      Never say no, you said the same thing about owning a house a few years ago

  • @nosebergs-are-at-it-again
    @nosebergs-are-at-it-again 6 місяців тому +441

    Glock looked at these requirements and said, "Yeah, we can make a shittier performing pistol on purpose"

    • @Halera-
      @Halera- 6 місяців тому +34

      Yeah. When a company makes an item specifically to meet some politicians' requirements and then they absolutely don't want to sell it on open market. That is all I need to know.

    • @Saint_Wolf_
      @Saint_Wolf_ 5 місяців тому +15

      I mean they made it dumb for cops.
      For rotating barrel can't go wrong with a Beretta PX4, those things are delightful.

    • @JosephShemelewski
      @JosephShemelewski 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Saint_Wolf_ I always kinda wanted a PX4 I'll have to get one when I have the extra cash

    • @Saint_Wolf_
      @Saint_Wolf_ 5 місяців тому +2

      @@JosephShemelewski Yea, one costs a lot of pennies, Langdon Tactical does custom jobs of the gun BUT I'm not American, so he can't tweak my piece. Sadge.

    • @Horyssas
      @Horyssas 3 місяці тому

      In some countries it works just like that. Responsible persons choose what they want, sometimes these persons are financially motivated, and set up the tender to describe one particular product from one particular manufacturer, writing all sorts of nonsense into the specifications to put other manufacturers' products at a disadvantage. In my country, when police did trials for new service cars, trial specs were made to describe one particular car. Even the minimum volume of the trunk was specified with precision of 1 liter to describe particular car. And all this describe, what idiots (or corrupted persons) are responsible for these tenders in EU.
      Same as ICE vehicles ban at exact date. Because there is nothing better than to be blackmailable by the rest of the world.

  • @AxLWake
    @AxLWake 6 місяців тому +3884

    The fact that if a pistol is intended to be used by the police, it has to be extra dumb proof is really extra funny.

    • @Kuemmel234
      @Kuemmel234 6 місяців тому

      That's what happens if police rarely needs it. Police kill like ten people a year here. Guns are no main concern.

    • @SenkaBandit
      @SenkaBandit 6 місяців тому +109

      -well police in Europe don’t really use and train with firearms as much as in the US, and a lot of them don’t even carry firearms-
      edit: I’m wrong

    • @AxLWake
      @AxLWake 6 місяців тому +1

      @@SenkaBandit a German cop just shot a terrorist slashing people with a knife... Most cops in Europe do carry guns. Europe is not like UK. US cops are definitely not trained better. The whole thing about the "NY cops Glock trigger" is not made up...

    • @bigsyrup8567
      @bigsyrup8567 6 місяців тому

      It makes sense. Even US cops are some of the most arrogant and useless people alive, with pistol “quals” that a 12 year old could pass.

    • @hux2000
      @hux2000 6 місяців тому +315

      @@SenkaBandit Regular police in Britain and Ireland don't carry firearms. Regular police in virtually all other European countries carry firearms just like in the US.

  • @HP3.14
    @HP3.14 2 місяці тому +17

    So fitting that it appears on "Forgotten Weapons" as it will definitly be forgotten.

  • @mitchellpatterson1829
    @mitchellpatterson1829 6 місяців тому +2393

    "(this Glock) has a thing at the back, and it has an extra switch."
    ATF has entered the chat.

    • @Fami_Salami
      @Fami_Salami 6 місяців тому +34

      Yooo you got full auto?

    • @kaboom4679
      @kaboom4679 6 місяців тому +47

      Those poor dogs ....

    • @FunhausRyan
      @FunhausRyan 6 місяців тому +10

      The German ATF?

    • @1443bg
      @1443bg 6 місяців тому +4

      That's probably why click won't sell them here

    • @murrlin2m1n82
      @murrlin2m1n82 6 місяців тому +1

      *Everyone hated that*

  • @alexf9472
    @alexf9472 6 місяців тому +165

    0:39 "It's got a thing at the back, and an extra switch on the side." SOLD!!

    • @KaPPy83
      @KaPPy83 6 місяців тому +1

      I was like "tf?" when he said that 😂

    • @deletdis6173
      @deletdis6173 4 місяці тому +1

      And this thing in the stock that tells time

    • @tebelel7150
      @tebelel7150 3 місяці тому

      😂😂😂😂 literally tho, why won’t they take my fucking money

    • @corkbulb2895
      @corkbulb2895 2 місяці тому

      Hold your horses buddy! This pistol was literally downgraded to meet political demands and not actual practicality for self defense.

    • @baomao7243
      @baomao7243 Місяць тому

      haha

  • @Dmac6969
    @Dmac6969 6 місяців тому +702

    I can't imagine wanting a worse glock trigger

    • @mikeblair2594
      @mikeblair2594 6 місяців тому +15

      Are glock triggers that bad? I shot something similar. It was on of those 80% glock thing that this cop I know made and I was pleasantly surprised at how nice the trigger was. After a couple rounds I was putting every shot on target at 25 meters. It was a pretty good pistol. If glocks weren't so damn ugly I'd think about getting one. However I'm happy with my oddball former European police pistol collection. A S&W k frame 38sp, A Beretta 92s and a Star model BM in 9mm para. They're nice shooters all.

    • @G47orG17
      @G47orG17 6 місяців тому +24

      @@mikeblair2594No they’re not bad, at all. I’ll tell you why, I’ve owned now a multitude of pistols, sigs, cz, colts, Glock of course. When you compare, like many do. A sig and Glock triggers are incredibly different, and I prefer the Glock trigger. It’s MUCHHH crisper than the sigs mushy, hard, drawn own pull. So no, I’d argue Glock triggers are better than a lot of STOCK striker fired pistols on the market.

    • @IndianaIsntReal
      @IndianaIsntReal 6 місяців тому +8

      @@G47orG17 They also take a lot longer to break in than hammer driven weapons for example, meaning people will pick up a new display model in the store, feel the brand new trigger and immedietly be turned away having the perception that all glock triggers feel like that.

    • @Nathan-jh1ho
      @Nathan-jh1ho 6 місяців тому +23

      NYPD has entered the chat

    • @Lucas12v
      @Lucas12v 6 місяців тому +12

      ​@@mikeblair2594They aren't terrible but they're far from the best either.

  • @thepersonwhocomentz
    @thepersonwhocomentz 6 місяців тому +130

    I wanted it for all of five minutes before I saw that trigger pull. If ever a trigger pull warranted a "yikes," it's that one.

    • @deucedeuce1572
      @deucedeuce1572 6 місяців тому +12

      Aftermarket companies would sell triggers for them (at least)... and they could probably be easily modified to shoot normally. Like the Glock "NY Triggers" they sold to police stations, you could just remove the "NY spring" or whatever it's called and make it a normal Glock trigger.

    • @cyma-zw2tt
      @cyma-zw2tt 6 місяців тому

      I wanted it till I saw the damn lever on the back

    • @seeharvester
      @seeharvester Місяць тому

      Okay.
      YIKES!

    • @jnievele
      @jnievele Місяць тому +3

      It's for police use... Those guys also got the Walther P99 DAO. It's not MEANT to be easily fired.

  • @Shrapnel-tj3il
    @Shrapnel-tj3il 6 місяців тому +913

    I love when the design requirements are "make the system actively worse".

    • @westcoastwarriorsarchive7929
      @westcoastwarriorsarchive7929 6 місяців тому +59

      but its "safer" dont you want your police to be safe!?
      safe from both accidental and intentional firing lol

    • @Kuemmel234
      @Kuemmel234 6 місяців тому

      In Germany, a country of 88 Million, police usually kill about 10 people per year. If Germany had the same population as the US, that'd be fewer than 40 instead of 1000+ - of course the requirements are very different.

    • @jalpat2272
      @jalpat2272 6 місяців тому +20

      ​@@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929 safety indeed something you need to take first priority but readiness of action where every microsecond count obviously the second
      . Rather than gave 15 pounds of trigger pull it should be better with easy to use safety switch.

    • @johnandrewserranogarcia7223
      @johnandrewserranogarcia7223 6 місяців тому +25

      The trigger might suck but the rotating barrel gives the Glock a lower bore axis than a tilting barrel. Lower bore axis means less muzzle flip when it recoils, this is potentially awesome.

    • @westcoastwarriorsarchive7929
      @westcoastwarriorsarchive7929 6 місяців тому

      @NathanHigger you clearly cant understand sarcasm.

  • @thekraken1173
    @thekraken1173 6 місяців тому +269

    So they made a glock worse. A revolution indeed.

    • @PolenarTactical
      @PolenarTactical 6 місяців тому +26

      this

    • @wlewisiii
      @wlewisiii 6 місяців тому +3

      No, they finally fixed the damn things. The G19 was the only pistol I was happy to sell. Unsafe POS.

    • @stefthorman8548
      @stefthorman8548 6 місяців тому +35

      @@wlewisiii let me guess, finger on the trigger when you didn't want to shoot?

    • @ratagris21
      @ratagris21 6 місяців тому

      When a Glock 19 and a Beretta Cougar have a baby hybrid.

    • @Waldherz
      @Waldherz 6 місяців тому +15

      @@wlewisiii If you consider a Glock 19 to be unsafe, then YOU should NOT be allowed to own a firearm.
      Since its very obvious that you can not operate a gun properly.

  • @oldesertguy9616
    @oldesertguy9616 6 місяців тому +646

    I can imagine the cops in Saxony getting excited to be the only ones with the new Glock, only to try the trigger.

    • @massivepileup
      @massivepileup 6 місяців тому +65

      I imagine their old guns had the same requirement.

    • @prolebenz251
      @prolebenz251 6 місяців тому +33

      Saxony-anhalt*

    • @Hurricane2k8
      @Hurricane2k8 6 місяців тому +115

      Most cops in Germany don't really care. It's nothing more than a work item they carry around, and >99% of cops will never fire their pistol while on duty, except to put down a deer that has been hit by a car maybe. They shoot the minimum requirements to stay qualified and that's it.
      Sure, there are some who are interested in firearms and will be excited for a new pistol, but they are in the minority.

    • @no1DdC
      @no1DdC 6 місяців тому +79

      @@Hurricane2k8 To illustrate just how rare firearms use by police is in Germany, a total of 333 people have been killed by German police since reunification in 1991. That's about ten people per year on average, a number that is far too high according to German critics of police violence.
      Meanwhile, American police killed about four times as many people in 2023 alone.
      Edit: Just in case it was unclear, I meant four times the total since 1991, not four times the yearly average.

    • @noneofyourbusinessfuckers8925
      @noneofyourbusinessfuckers8925 6 місяців тому

      @@no1DdCthat disparity of shootings is a direct result of the different demographics in Germany vs the US

  • @Quality_Guru
    @Quality_Guru 6 місяців тому +13

    If you are keen on this pistol, then you will love the Grand Power pistols which have a rotating barrel system. The MK23 style of pistols are optics ready. You can go with a hammer or striker fired pistol. The prices are reasonable for exceptionally well built pistols.

  • @Panzermeister36
    @Panzermeister36 6 місяців тому +746

    Glock finally releases the Glock killer

    • @DK-gy7ll
      @DK-gy7ll 6 місяців тому +55

      Forget about Glock Perfection. We now have the Imperfect Glock for Imperfect people.

    • @1diggers1
      @1diggers1 6 місяців тому +24

      @@DK-gy7llYeah how hyper paranoid are the German police about negligent discharges to have all of those requirements? Train more, get cooler guns!!

    • @Pikilloification
      @Pikilloification 6 місяців тому +6

      I'm sure they train enough, stop with that mentality

    • @tairhan52
      @tairhan52 6 місяців тому +2

      "fine, i'll do it myself."

    • @m1sz3lpl24
      @m1sz3lpl24 6 місяців тому +7

      ​@@1diggers1they train a lot more than US police, its just that most EU police forces prioritise safety

  • @primordial.sounds
    @primordial.sounds 6 місяців тому +5

    I have heard that most law enforcement and security services in the US are restricted from using single-action handguns , like the 1911 for instance, for liability reasons. Similar reasoning to these German restrictions on trigger weight and length of pull but theirs seem more comprehensive. Seems smart, from a public safety perspective.

  • @Kasian02
    @Kasian02 6 місяців тому +304

    If it didn't use Glock magazines, THAT would be really surprising.

    • @deucedeuce1572
      @deucedeuce1572 6 місяців тому +9

      lol. Yeah, even the 42 and 43 were foolishly designed to use their unnecessarily thick polymer lined magazines that limit their capacity a great deal. (and the 43x and 48). Like, they FINALLY had guns that they didn't need to make magazine compatible (because they couldn't be magazine compatible), but they STILL decided to use magazines that were unnecessarily thick that rally limited capacity.

    • @deucedeuce1572
      @deucedeuce1572 6 місяців тому +3

      @@S1deshowRob Would be nice. Hope they make a double stack 42 and 43 also. I think that was their biggest mistake in all the years they've existed as a company. (Not including his personal life). They've done a lot of good things as a company... but I think they completely screwed themselves on that one.

    • @Nsodnoajdjksl
      @Nsodnoajdjksl 6 місяців тому +2

      L4D2's Glock uses a Sig Sauer mag.

    • @corkbulb2895
      @corkbulb2895 2 місяці тому

      Everything uses Glock magazines

  • @maxmusterman7827
    @maxmusterman7827 6 місяців тому +123

    Austrian here. As far as i know, among the other reasons, the rotating barrel design was used due to the requirement do fire +P+ "Behördenmunition". The regular tilting barrel design doesn't fully support the case due to the feed ramp. Take out the barrel, and put a Case in the Chamber, and look at it from the bottom, you see what i mean. So the way the Story goes is, that standard Glocks dont like very hot (+P+) ammo, so they came up with the rotating barrel to meet the requiremnts. Would be cooool if Ian read this, either to confirm or debunk.

    • @deepbludreams
      @deepbludreams 6 місяців тому +17

      I doubt it, because all they would have to do to allow very hot ammo is just create a factory fully supported barrel for the normal guns, all the aftermarket barrels have bottom support.

    • @mbr5742
      @mbr5742 6 місяців тому +8

      German police fires standard NATO 9x19 rounds not hot loads. If they need more punch they dig out semi-auto MP5 or call in SEK/MEK. Body armor is very rare in germany

    • @maxmusterman7827
      @maxmusterman7827 6 місяців тому +1

      ​​​@@deepbludreams i think modern aftermarket barrels weren't considered at this point. To be precise, I should say, the rotating barrel solves the problem of hot ammo, as well as the other requests, so it contributes to the decision to go with this solution, and not with a full chamber support standard barrel

    • @maxmusterman7827
      @maxmusterman7827 6 місяців тому

      ​​@@mbr5742yet they put in the request for hot ammo. Some call that a obsessive request for the standard sidearm, because, as you Point Out, there are specialists Like SEK/GSG9 If needed

    • @deucedeuce1572
      @deucedeuce1572 6 місяців тому +9

      I believe that the only Glocks that don't fully support the cases are in .40SW. Otherwise, I think every 9mm has a fully supported chamber.

  • @adgeroukltd.6733
    @adgeroukltd.6733 6 місяців тому +469

    Cops don't shoot yourselves challenge: Glock edition

    • @johnmurcott1273
      @johnmurcott1273 6 місяців тому +21

      or any innocents nearby

    • @ThePlayerOfGames
      @ThePlayerOfGames 6 місяців тому +20

      ​@@johnmurcott1273 (impossible)

    • @deucedeuce1572
      @deucedeuce1572 6 місяців тому +8

      @@johnmurcott1273 That's just asking too much. At least try to be fair.

    • @l33tnobody1337
      @l33tnobody1337 6 місяців тому +9

      @@deucedeuce1572 guys german police are not US Police..

    • @deucedeuce1572
      @deucedeuce1572 6 місяців тому +20

      @@l33tnobody1337 Yeah, but all police are... police.

  • @Fudmottin
    @Fudmottin 2 місяці тому +4

    I don't understand the requirement on cycle time. I totally understand the trigger pull thing. But I don't see how increasing cycle time improves safety. The slide will still be back in battery faster than you can blink.

    • @alexanderbolias900
      @alexanderbolias900 17 днів тому +2

      From what I understand, it's a measure to reduce the potential for bump firing a pistol (on accident)

  • @bradmarthafocker4285
    @bradmarthafocker4285 6 місяців тому +92

    I agree, if they made the trigger decent and left all other details the same, Americans would buy those all day just for the sake of the novelty. And then there would be a whole new sub section of internet gun arguments about whether the G46 or the PX4 is the better pistol lol.

    • @hux2000
      @hux2000 6 місяців тому +5

      It's an argument that could never be won, though, since it's impossible to argue that striker-fired is intrinsically better than hammer-fired (or vice-versa). But yes, those argument would of course still be had anyway!

    • @JohnTBlock
      @JohnTBlock 3 місяці тому +1

      There are tons of Glock fan-bois who would buy it even if it COULD NOT FIRE, just to brag they got one....

  • @tomunterwegs1206
    @tomunterwegs1206 6 місяців тому +16

    That rotating barrel with its lower bore axis, lightened trigger..
    lighter than a normal glock, same mags, same evereything = instant sales win.

    • @maxchan179
      @maxchan179 6 місяців тому +2

      brain as smooth as butter

  • @DirtyHarry7243
    @DirtyHarry7243 6 місяців тому +201

    “A revolutionary design change.”
    A Glock wit da switch

    • @chrism4008
      @chrism4008 6 місяців тому +4

      It's"revolutionary" because the barrel rotates, or, revolves if you will. It was a word joke

    • @392swim
      @392swim 6 місяців тому +1

      @@chrism4008we knowwwww man 😂🙄

    • @tullo5564
      @tullo5564 5 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, but this switch is useless 😂

    • @andreascook6642
      @andreascook6642 3 місяці тому

      Fr

  • @joem5639
    @joem5639 6 місяців тому +3

    Just like the Beretta PX4 storm with the rotating barrel. A very smooth shooter.

    • @tullo5564
      @tullo5564 5 місяців тому

      Trigger 🤡

    • @baomao7243
      @baomao7243 Місяць тому

      @@tullo5564 Yeah, well, there’s that…

  • @stevehangzo7159
    @stevehangzo7159 6 місяців тому +309

    Interesting! Love or hate Glocks, you can’t hate the fact that Gaston Glock had ZERO experience in Gunsmithing/Manufacturing but came up with one of the most used handguns right now. R.I.P.

    • @Dapstart
      @Dapstart 6 місяців тому +8

      gaston glock more like gasman clock

    • @charro7037
      @charro7037 6 місяців тому

      Amen…

    • @stevehangzo7159
      @stevehangzo7159 6 місяців тому +5

      @@Dapstart *badum tssss*

    • @jic1
      @jic1 6 місяців тому +29

      Apparently when Ronnie Barrett designed the M82, he was a photographer with no engineering background. About the same time frame as the development of the Glock 17 too.

    • @tomswift3835
      @tomswift3835 6 місяців тому +19

      "Can't hate the fact ..." You sure can. The first time I picked up a Glock - there was only one model in those days - I couldn't believe it. It was obviously designed by someone with absolutely NO "feel" for guns. None at all. Or, for that matter, any obvious familiarity with the human hand. Ugh. Of course I realized the Gaston was a plastics geek, and not a gun guy, and probably not up on anthropometry, either. But I was so underwhelmed that I've never so much as touched a Glock since. Why bother, when the world is full of guns which don't feel like something that should say "LEGO" on the side.

  • @Pharto_Stinkus
    @Pharto_Stinkus 6 місяців тому +6

    Wow, I would love a rotating barrel Glock. I love my Beretta PX4 Storm!

  • @velvetine74
    @velvetine74 6 місяців тому +213

    That trigger is the reason they haven't attempted to sell it on the commercial market, yes?

    • @CJBrunt
      @CJBrunt 6 місяців тому +85

      The other Lawyerese argument if the 46 becomes freely available in the US, will also be that when every PD using 'old' Glocks has an ND, Officer Numbnut's lawyer will sue the PD for not issuing him the 'safer-Glock' instead of the old 'known to be un-safe' version.

    • @CantoniaCustoms
      @CantoniaCustoms 6 місяців тому +50

      They could keep the rotating barrel, lighten the trigger, then market it as a premium more accurate version of the glock.

    • @chipsterb4946
      @chipsterb4946 6 місяців тому +4

      @@CJBruntI don’t follow that argument. If Glock makes a “safer” pistol, why would it matter whether it is sold in the US or not?

    • @elijahsmith8597
      @elijahsmith8597 6 місяців тому +12

      ​@chipsterb4946 it may be in similar thought process that some states have a law that if a working "smart gun" is on the market that is the only type of firearm you could legally sell after it comes out.

    • @actionjksn
      @actionjksn 6 місяців тому +2

      No, because that trigger would be great for CCW, because it would be very safe to carry with a round in the chamber with no external safety. It's more like a double action revolver trigger. It may be bad for target shooting but it would be perfectly fine for a self-defense situation.

  • @herbderbler1585
    @herbderbler1585 6 місяців тому +7

    I wish more manufacturers would make mechanisms like this for simple striker removal. Mossberg pistols do the same thing and it not only removed the need to pull the trigger when disassembling, but it also just makes it something you can clean regularly.

  • @lancerevell5979
    @lancerevell5979 6 місяців тому +198

    Nagant revolver owner says, "Heavy trigger? Meh." 😅

    • @helifanodobezanozi7689
      @helifanodobezanozi7689 6 місяців тому +12

      Or how about, "Hold my vodka!"

    • @VincitOmniaVeritas7
      @VincitOmniaVeritas7 6 місяців тому +34

      Thanks to the Nagant, Russian soldiers had the strongest trigger fingers…
      …and happiest wives.

    • @mikeblair2594
      @mikeblair2594 6 місяців тому +8

      @@VincitOmniaVeritas7 As if Russian men knew more than to stick it inside.

    • @hoppinggnomethe4154
      @hoppinggnomethe4154 6 місяців тому +2

      VP70 owners: Pfft!
      😂😂😂

    • @DawidKov
      @DawidKov 6 місяців тому +7

      @@mikeblair2594 А это, товарищи, толерантный западник, который никогда не обобщает, не верит в стереотипы и оценивает людей как индивидов.

  • @tomswift3835
    @tomswift3835 6 місяців тому

    Don't know if you ever did this one, but the 1907 Savage was a rotating barrel . . . well, not exacting locking, more a weird delayed blowback, although the patent claimed it was a lock. The idea was that the barrel reaction to the spinning bullet would tend to rotate it 5 degrees or so, catching it on a locking lug, then when the bullet left the barrel it could un-rotate freely and so unlock. Very inventive but it's never been determined if the mechanism actually worked that way or not.
    And there's some beautiful machining on the 1912 Steyr barrel helixes.

  • @leppeppel
    @leppeppel 6 місяців тому +32

    I wonder how long it'll be before that super rare demo-model Glock is a jewel in the collection of Future Fireplace Guy.

  • @PhoenixFyre
    @PhoenixFyre 6 місяців тому +1

    I've got a Px4 and it's a good pistol, especially when you replace the factory sights. Though I'm no marksman by any means but the rotating barrel isn't a bad system.

  • @CJBrunt
    @CJBrunt 6 місяців тому +311

    A 'dumb-cop'-safe Glock should also be good for 'dumb-soldier' military sales.
    Even for non-German PDs in the US.

    • @arconreef
      @arconreef 6 місяців тому +22

      Rotating barrel pistols are known for being more sensitive to dirt/sand/grit getting into the action of the gun than browning action pistols, and you can see at 5:08 that the ejection port will act as a gaping hole where gunk can get into the action. There's a reason the browning action Glocks have extra material on the barrel to fill that area in. I don't think the 46 would pass military testing.

    • @prolebenz251
      @prolebenz251 6 місяців тому +32

      Acorn proof service pistol

    • @jic1
      @jic1 6 місяців тому +24

      Until very recently, NYPD Glocks had special heavy triggers, usually said to be around 12 lbs. Apparently they dropped them in 2021, because they decided that poor marksmanship was a bigger problem than negligent discharges.

    • @CJBrunt
      @CJBrunt 6 місяців тому +2

      @@arconreef Yes, but how many pistol-packin' Fobbits ever saw dust that wasn't in their a/c filter?

    • @alltat
      @alltat 6 місяців тому +3

      For military guns you usually want as few fancy features as possible. Every additional part is another thing that can go wrong, and in a warzone anything that can go wrong will inevitably go wrong.

  • @isomeades1121
    @isomeades1121 6 місяців тому +2

    Yeah, I may be one of those purchase on a whim folks he's talking about, I own a Grand Power P40, delightful gun, but I have to admit a big part of the reason I bought it was the novelty of the rotating barrel. I'd love to see Ian do a run down of some of the Grand Power designs someday, not a lot of information on them available online.

  • @lukas7956
    @lukas7956 6 місяців тому +70

    ...And for the next trial, the Germans will require the pistol to feature no pistol at all.

    • @dyingearth
      @dyingearth 6 місяців тому +6

      Use the Force Luke.

    • @g.p.1676
      @g.p.1676 6 місяців тому

      With the current German government I would not be surprised...

    • @eancola6111
      @eancola6111 5 місяців тому +1

      Just give them a stick at this point, I thought American police training was bad but Germany is clearly worse if they need all these safety measures.

    • @rmamon2554
      @rmamon2554 2 місяці тому +1

      Pistol??? What for??? You have two index Fingers, and a Mouth, make a Pistol with your hands and shout BOOM, HIT, TARGET DEAD.

  • @deadturtle007
    @deadturtle007 6 місяців тому

    As someone who owns a glock 22 and berreta cougar (rotating barrel in .40). The glock way less recoil and more accurate. That could be because I am more used to that impulse but the routing barrel mechanism is more of a fun change up than an actual improvement

  • @scttshwldct
    @scttshwldct 6 місяців тому +71

    Surprised that with all the time you've spent with Larry Vickers you didn't once refer to this as a "moon rock"

    • @alexander1902
      @alexander1902 6 місяців тому +18

      I don't think most people want to mention Larry at this point and open the conversation to elitism and form forging.

    • @scttshwldct
      @scttshwldct 6 місяців тому +11

      @@alexander1902 Thanks for bringing the negativity

    • @FryingTiger
      @FryingTiger 6 місяців тому +1

      Snickers was smoking crack rocks.

    • @openmythirdeye
      @openmythirdeye 6 місяців тому +1

      Hopefully Ian won't be spending any time with Larry in the foreseeable future🫤😬

    • @tullo5564
      @tullo5564 5 місяців тому

      Is Larry still alive?

  • @2aalltheway614
    @2aalltheway614 6 місяців тому

    The glock can be disassembled without pulling the trigger.. its just more complicated. Pull back the slide, clear and leave it locked open, use a pin to depress the plastic sleeve over the firing pin and remove the rear plate and firing pin. You can now remove the slide without pulling the trigger.

  • @Jesses001
    @Jesses001 6 місяців тому +17

    As for selling in the US, a small amount would sell as a collectable. If they offered it with a not garbage trigger, I think it could be a great seller. Most buyers would already have a few Glocks, so they are not competing with their other designs.

    • @CantoniaCustoms
      @CantoniaCustoms 6 місяців тому +1

      And not to mention glock brand glocks are losing out to knockoffs and better clones because expired patents.

    • @deucedeuce1572
      @deucedeuce1572 6 місяців тому

      ...and aftermarket companies would make better trigger for them too.

  • @pinguinfromnkvd5774
    @pinguinfromnkvd5774 4 місяці тому +2

    Russians in late 90's making GSh-18: Let's make our own Glock with rotating barrel.
    Glock 20 years later: Let's make our own Glock with rotating barrel.

  • @NO3V
    @NO3V 6 місяців тому +70

    Impressively close enough 😉 Sachsen-Anhalt pronunciation.
    Greetings from Sachsen-Anhalt.

    • @barbarossarotbart
      @barbarossarotbart 6 місяців тому +3

      But then he is constantly talking about Saxony ...

  • @leonida-alexandrudiaconu8660
    @leonida-alexandrudiaconu8660 6 місяців тому +7

    I see all the comments from i guess expert in firearms people and yet I fail to understand why having a safe procedure to disassemble the gun is a bad thing. In my humble opinion having to pull the trigger in order to be able to disassemble the gun is asking for trouble. I know that the experts will mock me but I think that every modern fire arm should have mechanisms like that. No matter how “experienced” you are, accidents can and do happen.

    • @Exkudor95
      @Exkudor95 6 місяців тому

      Difference in mentality. 99% of the gun people are american and there is just much more of a "You do you, better know what you're doing" mentality (or there was at least - when there are requirements by law they are even dumber: "Don't microwave your hamster", "Coffee is hot" type of shit, but the NRA is keeping guns mostly free of those it seems) over there while germany has rules for everything (see DIN and *waves hand at country in general*). Also, american cops have to have a way different approach. In germany there just arent people running around with guns. You really don't run the risk of being gunned down during your usual traffic stop because you were too slow with your gun. There are certainly parts of town or operations where you can expect gangs with guns (Dortmund Nordstadt...) but that's where police shows up in force and often not with pistols but with their issued SMGs. I also think the regulations are sensible, way too many brickheads in the police force.

    • @kevinalmgren8332
      @kevinalmgren8332 6 місяців тому +1

      Assembling a firearm should always involve a function check, which would include a trigger press.
      If you can’t safely unload a pistol, you probably shouldn’t be in possession of one.

  • @radfoxuk8113
    @radfoxuk8113 6 місяців тому +83

    A heavy trigger, and a longer trigger pull is like a dull blade, it's both safer and more dangerous at the same time, the amount of damage possible is lower, but the chance of an accidental injury when using the tool correctly is higher.

    • @radfoxuk8113
      @radfoxuk8113 6 місяців тому +1

      It's better to choose one or the other, and not use both.

    • @radfoxuk8113
      @radfoxuk8113 6 місяців тому +3

      The rotating barrel system, if explored more by Glock, could be better for some markets, if not not realistically, but emotionally, like how weapon sounds in video games have a noticeable, and replicable impact on a weapon's performance simply due to the psychological affect, see People Make Games video on Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory.
      The Thompson and MP40 had same stats, but the Thompson had better sound effects, this lead to a noticeable change in how well the guns performed due to a lack in confidence in the MP40, so they made the Thompson sound less cool, and this difference became negligible.

    • @prolebenz251
      @prolebenz251 6 місяців тому +4

      How does it increase the risk?

    • @radfoxuk8113
      @radfoxuk8113 6 місяців тому

      @@prolebenz251 If a knife is dull there's more chance for it to slip, and while a dull knife may not slice well, it can definitely stab and chop well enough to injure.
      A trigger pull that is too long or heavy, or both, can cause your aim to pull to one side, you can correct this with proper training, but it's unnecessary, just choose one, heavy or long, and you can reduce the risk significantly.
      A lot of cops, location doesn't change this, view their jobs as just that, a job, and not a service, and so do the bare minimum, so they are less likely to do the training to compensate for this hazard.
      Basically, a kill shot can become a wounding shot, and a wounding shot can become a miss that could injure a civilian or damage property, in some places this isn't important as the state will eat the costs, and police see little punishment for bad shoots, but in other places they do see consequences for bad shoots, and can be sued personally.
      In the UK, for example, many police don't want to be firearms officers since they are seeing consequences(*) for bad shoots, and firearms officers are usually only sent on calls that involved armed suspects, so are in more danger.
      I don't know about Germany, or individual German states/counties, so cannot comment on them specifically.
      (*)
      After a bad shoot, in which a firearms officer shot and killed an unarmed black man, the officer was charged with murder, and so firearms officers handed in their permits, "Blue Cards", in a strike/protest.
      e in more danger.

    • @radfoxuk8113
      @radfoxuk8113 6 місяців тому +3

      @@prolebenz251 Additionally:
      It's similar to why bullpups are viewed poorly, as the triggers are often not the best due to the mechanics of having to link the trigger at the front/middle, to the fire mechanism at the rear, of the weapon, bullpup triggers are often referred to as "spongey".
      Similarly for weapons that use a dual stage trigger that negates the need of a fire mode selector, and instead allows a light trigger pull to fire semi-automatically, and a full trigger pull to fire full-auto, like on an MG34 or P90, are viewed as worse than having a selector switch.
      A poor trigger can affect accuracy at any range, if that trigger is objectively poor, or poor to an individual shooter.
      A trigger that is too light/short can be just as bad.
      Lastly, Glocks are likely the safest pistol available, the automatic safeties in place eliminate possibly all dangers apart from user error, adding additional safeties in place of proper training and experience is, in my opinion, a bad idea.

  • @joethebourbonman
    @joethebourbonman 3 місяці тому

    From a collectors perspective I can definitely see why this is neat, but practically I don't see why I'd ever want it over a standard Glock. I do appreciate the pragmatism of the company to make it, and the officers who carry it certainly have a reliable gun. And I can't imagine the trigger being any worse than the monstrosity on the Sig P6.

  • @owenbrandon8370
    @owenbrandon8370 6 місяців тому +54

    Wow I feel like a revolutionary just watching this

  • @harrykane3840
    @harrykane3840 6 місяців тому +6

    So the Colt All American 2000 was a failed design but the Glock 46 is a revolutionary design. . . To quote Spinal Tap, "It's such a a fine line between stupid and clever."

  • @gunbutter830
    @gunbutter830 6 місяців тому +18

    Releasing this pistol with a normal Glock trigger would be very easy for Glock. The sales in the US would be significant.

  • @dbmail545
    @dbmail545 Місяць тому +1

    What a shame Glock won't be offering a civilian version of this. I had a Beretta 8045 that I liked but was ammunition sensitive. It seemed to MUCH prefer the S&B 230gr hardball which was NOT my favorite load.

  • @gtantha
    @gtantha 6 місяців тому +37

    Just FYI: Saxony-Anhalt (Sachsen-Anhalt) and Saxony (Sachsen) are two different states. You messed that up around 3:45

    • @gilbertohernandez9223
      @gilbertohernandez9223 6 місяців тому +12

      I don't know why but the thought of a German confusing Kansas and Arkansas popped into my head after reading this.

    • @DanzigDemento
      @DanzigDemento 6 місяців тому +9

      Not unlike Washington the state and Washington the District of Columbia.

    • @tintifax8531
      @tintifax8531 6 місяців тому +2

      And then of course there's Niedersachsen, just for variety. Germans are so original with their names!

    • @Ink_25
      @Ink_25 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@tintifax8531To be fair, a third of Germany was once saxons :D

  • @beauhancock4922
    @beauhancock4922 5 місяців тому +1

    Smith and Wessons gas tempo barrel system proves the concept pretty well.

  • @BADD1ONE
    @BADD1ONE 6 місяців тому +26

    The beretta storm is the best rotating pistol ive fired. Those German police requirements made for one complete pos.

    • @jonathanschubert9052
      @jonathanschubert9052 6 місяців тому +1

      Love the storm!

    • @prolebenz251
      @prolebenz251 6 місяців тому +3

      Its not dupposed to be a fun gun or a race gun its a tool german police rarely use

    • @babayaga6376
      @babayaga6376 6 місяців тому +6

      It sounds like the tool was designed around shitty requests made by the client.

    • @Snougaloogie
      @Snougaloogie 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@prolebenz251it seems unintuitive to use, especially considering firearms training is minimal as contrasted with America. They could have gotten P30s from HK and had a double single pistol pretty much off the shelf

    • @DaleErnieMichael
      @DaleErnieMichael 6 місяців тому +1

      @@SnougaloogieUS cops only have to fire 50 rounds a year to requalify and they get approved even when they fail, I can't imagine armed police in any other first world nation with lower firearms proficiency standards. And most of the time our cops get to self report their own qual scores so they don't even shoot half the time, the horror stories of cops showing up to gun ranges and giving up after trying and failing to jam the wrong ammo in their guns and going home are nearly endless. Those are the cops on our streets, there is no chance Germany is worse.

  • @A4Blue-m7n
    @A4Blue-m7n 5 місяців тому +1

    Please please come to the states 🙏. How crazy would it be if gen 6 will be a rotating barrel design?

  • @jwolfesp
    @jwolfesp 6 місяців тому +55

    Keeping trigger happy cops from being happy.

  • @danijuggernaut
    @danijuggernaut 6 місяців тому +1

    Police pistols are special designed for that task. Just like the Sig Sauer SP2022. A hard trigger is an additional safety device, you don't want to shoot a suspect by accident.

  • @acheeseburger7367
    @acheeseburger7367 6 місяців тому +5

    It’s really interesting that Glock did something so different from the norm, just a shame the first thing they do differently is weird because their contractor wanted it to be.

  • @Grooove_e
    @Grooove_e 6 місяців тому +2

    As cool as it is that Glock finally did something different, even if they released this for civilian sale in the U.S. the Beretta PX4 would still be much less expesive, have at least as much reliability, and have a much better trigger.

  • @wolpenfire3562
    @wolpenfire3562 6 місяців тому +35

    Does this mean we may see police surplus p7s on the market?

    • @waldmeister0815
      @waldmeister0815 6 місяців тому +10

      From Sachsen Anhalt? Perhaps some cop from a village still has it's good old GDR Tokarev.

    • @no1DdC
      @no1DdC 6 місяців тому +1

      @@waldmeister0815 Good one. As far as I know though, they ditched most Eastern Bloc equipment shortly after reunification.

    • @dyingearth
      @dyingearth 6 місяців тому +2

      The P7 have been replace a while back.

    • @Mr79dream
      @Mr79dream 6 місяців тому +3

      unfortunately doubt it.
      The afaik german LEO/Military don't sell to the civilian market anymore.
      Eyther developemt aid to some other country or shredder

    • @ivywiest7176
      @ivywiest7176 6 місяців тому

      NOT IF THE LEFTIST/MARXIST NEW WORLD ORDER OR THE DEEP STATE HAVE ANYTING TO SAY ABOUT IT AND GLOCK
      IS NOW LICKING THEIR BOOTS
      AND KISSING UP TO THOSE DICTATER SCUM!!!!!

  • @TeamKhandiKhane
    @TeamKhandiKhane 6 місяців тому +1

    "There are a lot of other rotating barrel pistols, in production and in use, Baretta has one, Grand Power has one, Steyr made one back in 1912"
    Me who grew up with steyr firearms. Yes even the weird ones. "Of course they did."

  • @balljointedmercenary
    @balljointedmercenary 6 місяців тому +5

    Thanks for posting Ian!

  • @Zarathustra-H-
    @Zarathustra-H- 3 місяці тому +1

    Where does one get one of these Universal Austrian Disassembly Tools? 😅

  • @RyTrapp0
    @RyTrapp0 6 місяців тому +25

    Ian covering this because he knows that it's obviously going to be a soon Forgotten Weapon(TM) once Glock finally gives up after the 1 contract that they could get for this pistol lol
    I was interested until I saw that patently absurd trigger... but, lets also be real, they could easily make a US market variant with a not-complete-dumpster-fire trigger no problem. It's just that they don't want to of course.

    • @cplpuddingpop
      @cplpuddingpop 6 місяців тому +2

      And even if they didn't, an aftermarket option would be designed in .05 seconds.

  • @Gunmetaltech
    @Gunmetaltech 6 місяців тому +2

    I’m more excited about that deeper beavertail. Hope they include that in a Gen 6 frame design.

  • @wyomins
    @wyomins 6 місяців тому +49

    I bet the US civilian market would buy twice the amount that German police would buy.

    • @afwaller
      @afwaller 6 місяців тому +22

      Not with this garbage 100 lb trigger

    • @prizrak-br3332
      @prizrak-br3332 6 місяців тому +12

      @@afwaller Would still do it for the novelty

    • @martinswiney2192
      @martinswiney2192 6 місяців тому +1

      Nope. Not for me.

    • @One-Armed-Un-Boxer
      @One-Armed-Un-Boxer 6 місяців тому

      order of magnitude more

    • @prizrak-br3332
      @prizrak-br3332 6 місяців тому

      @@kirahund6711 Which I bet they will.

  • @AllAboutSurvival
    @AllAboutSurvival 6 місяців тому

    It's a shame we might not see this model in the civilian market, but it’s exciting to see Glock pushing the envelope in firearm design.

  • @psp1921tsmg
    @psp1921tsmg 6 місяців тому +6

    If I want to rotating barrel, I’ll buy a Beretta or a Stoeger cougar

  • @kephrarubin
    @kephrarubin 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for sharing didn't even know that version existed.

  • @ZeManTF2
    @ZeManTF2 6 місяців тому +19

    comments available now?

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  6 місяців тому +63

      UA-cam turned them off; I have no idea why. They just do that sometimes now.

    • @GigAnonymous
      @GigAnonymous 6 місяців тому +20

      @@ForgottenWeapons I have an idea why - if you click on the link about why comments were disabled, they list as a potential reason a nonspecific "potential safety issue". So yeah, here's the proverbial smoking gun...

    • @RyanPatridge
      @RyanPatridge 6 місяців тому +6

      @@ForgottenWeaponsand i constantly get anti-firearm ads during your videos. 😂

    • @gilgamecha
      @gilgamecha 6 місяців тому

      ​@@ForgottenWeaponsthere's an interesting comment from an Austrian viewer above here, saying the rotating barrel is to handle +P+ ammunition that won't feed properly in a regular Glock.

  • @aceman1126
    @aceman1126 6 місяців тому +6

    Make this long slide and optics ready and put a good trigger in it and you got a pretty ideal competition gun

  • @alanfender123
    @alanfender123 6 місяців тому +4

    Thought the video title was written sarcastically- boy was I wrong! I think it would be interesting for Glock to make a machine pistol with this sort of rotating barrel locking mechanism and see if it ends up being more controllable because of the (supposed) reduction in slide flip

    • @westcoastwarriorsarchive7929
      @westcoastwarriorsarchive7929 6 місяців тому +1

      partially sarcastic I think. Did you see how bad that trigger was? Its like combining the trigger on a ruger lcp and a bad bullpup conversion kit.

  • @Gieszkanne
    @Gieszkanne 6 місяців тому

    The G47 once also were offered just for US law enforcement but now its available for the civilian market. I think the 46 would be much more interesting for the civilian market than the 47 because it really is different.

  • @robbledot7290
    @robbledot7290 6 місяців тому +5

    I wonder if this barrel system would be better for use with a suppressor since it doesn’t tilt. Maybe no need for a booster

    • @DaleErnieMichael
      @DaleErnieMichael 6 місяців тому +4

      The rotating barrel can unscrew suppressors, that's why the only threaded PX4 model is basically unobtainium. And it definitely still needs a booster, Beretta 92's aren't exempt from boosters either.

    • @Nathan-jh1ho
      @Nathan-jh1ho 6 місяців тому +2

      It will still need a booster, the supressor mass screws up the short recoil action

  • @puncifikator3870
    @puncifikator3870 6 місяців тому

    Years ago I handled one of these at school when the local police were doing a presentation. It's a cool gun! They showed us berettas, riot police glock 46, AKs and PSLs. all without ammo of course.

  • @lordaleksandre
    @lordaleksandre 6 місяців тому +2

    1:30 Sounds like certain people were very very interested in writing up a RFP that Glock couldn't possibly make. Cronyism is The Way of the Future and Present.

  • @trant2b
    @trant2b 6 місяців тому +1

    I am an Asian-American gun owner who will buy any handgun with a rotating barrel. Glock 46s would be a hit if they sold that in the USA...

  • @torgejh9189
    @torgejh9189 6 місяців тому +5

    I've been on the force here in Germany for little over a year now. In my state we have the SFP9 and because of that I have next to no experience with Glocks, so this was quite an interesting watch.
    That super long and heavy trigger pull is mandated by regulations, so it's just something you will get used to from day 1 of firearms training. At first, it really does feel like trying to break a broom handle with just your index-finger.

  • @justanothergunnerd8128
    @justanothergunnerd8128 6 місяців тому +2

    This is so cool. Bummer it's not for sale here in the USA.

  • @Soacwiththaface
    @Soacwiththaface 6 місяців тому +4

    RIP Gaston Glock.

  • @Defunct91379
    @Defunct91379 2 місяці тому +1

    Would love to see a rotating barrel g19. Without the rest of the special mods.

  • @MP-ky3hc
    @MP-ky3hc 6 місяців тому +3

    American Glock with a switch > German Glock with a switch

  • @jjaymcdaniel
    @jjaymcdaniel 6 місяців тому +1

    Finally!! A Glock that I actually might be interested in!

  • @_Art.Vandelay
    @_Art.Vandelay 6 місяців тому +14

    Rotating barrel actions are so back.

  • @CyborgZeta
    @CyborgZeta 6 місяців тому

    I don't think the trigger is a bad idea. As someone who mainly shoots revolvers, I would not carry a Glock because of its trigger. It's too light and too short a travel, which is not something I want on a pistol with no safety. That's why I ended up getting a Springfield XD for my first striker-fired pistol. The grip safety makes me feel more comfortable reholstering, while also not being something I need to remember to actuate like a manual safety lever. I just naturally activate the grip safety when I get a firm shooting grip.

  • @Grarder
    @Grarder 4 місяці тому +4

    Not gonna lie, the rotating barrel thing is kinda cool.

  • @Schregger
    @Schregger 6 місяців тому

    I happily own a PX4 Storm. I love the idea of the rotating barrel, would absolutely buy this for no reason other than it being different.

  • @jamesoncross7494
    @jamesoncross7494 6 місяців тому +12

    Way to overcomplicate a Glock. Jesus! If you aren't smart enough to check the chamber 1st you should not be allowed to operate a gun.

    • @jjmckay6man1
      @jjmckay6man1 6 місяців тому

      or the did you take the magazine out switch LMAO!

  • @DerPolygonianer
    @DerPolygonianer 6 місяців тому

    I wonder if it's really a worthwhile tradeoff having a long heavy trigger pull for being safe when it means you have to train far more to get well placed shots.

  • @DaMainDude
    @DaMainDude 6 місяців тому +8

    Considering German cops usually only fire around 20 rounds per year, that totally makes sense.

    • @jeffanon1772
      @jeffanon1772 6 місяців тому

      Most American Cops only fire 50 rounds per year.

    • @DaMainDude
      @DaMainDude 6 місяців тому +2

      @@jeffanon1772 Maybe they should have a 20 pound trigger as well 😂

    • @jflo4073
      @jflo4073 6 місяців тому

      Yeah, but they get the same workout from it.

  • @kriseckhardt5148
    @kriseckhardt5148 6 місяців тому +1

    Ian...... You are the best.

  • @texasranger24
    @texasranger24 6 місяців тому +11

    The german police has a technical requirement sheet made by the german police university experts.
    Yet it's total hot garbage and should be updated asap.
    And as to the pistols used by the 16 federal states in Germany, 6 use the H&K SFP9/VP9, 5 use the Walther P99, 2 use the H&K P10 (USP), 1 (and the federals) use the H&K P30, 1 use the H&K P2000, and 1 uses the Glock 46.

  • @bradbarley6639
    @bradbarley6639 6 місяців тому +1

    Just put a dang decent trigger in the pistol. Sig can do it, Canik can do it, Springfield Armory can do it, Walther can do it... Nothing wrong with a G17 except the damn trigger!!

    • @moniumus6303
      @moniumus6303 6 місяців тому +1

      The entire point of it is having a heavy trigger

  • @User1-o6f
    @User1-o6f 6 місяців тому +12

    ATF: Switch??!! IT'S FuLl AuTo!
    ATF: Hole in barrel?!!?? It'S a SuPReSsOR!

  • @birdmanoo0
    @birdmanoo0 6 місяців тому

    I honestly feel a longer trigger pull on a carry pistol is a good thing, more so for police that are likely to use it under high stress. But they might have gone a bit far on the trigger weight, it looked like took a lot of effort to pull that trigger.

  • @allanfoster6965
    @allanfoster6965 6 місяців тому +4

    The Austrian varietals 😂

  • @thomasmoore2356
    @thomasmoore2356 6 місяців тому

    The only rotating lug pistol I’ve ever seen for sale in the U.S. was the Sig/Mauser M2 about 20+ years ago and none since. Not saying others don’t exist, but that’s the only modern one I’ve ever seen in person.

  • @CheapCreep
    @CheapCreep 6 місяців тому +5

    Is it acorn proof?

  • @the_spikerman3764
    @the_spikerman3764 29 днів тому

    After working with an organization with parts in Germany some things are beautifully thought out while others, like this guns requirements….. are asinine.

  • @trjnsd6874
    @trjnsd6874 6 місяців тому +4

    So German: take a simple design and make it more complicated.

  • @VulgarHands
    @VulgarHands 4 місяці тому

    Would buy this in a heartbeat with a regular gen 5 trigger (also without the takedown lever)

  • @tacticalmanatee
    @tacticalmanatee 6 місяців тому +4

    This is not Perfection

  • @willcaputo1
    @willcaputo1 6 місяців тому

    I have a suspicion that it wouldn't be enough of a long term success to justify a production line just for this. One of the perks to Glock is that from a production standpoint, there aren't many different lines you need to work with.