Quick Tips: Restoring Dried Out Paint
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In this Quick Tip Kris demonstrates how to restore your dried out paints.
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#miniaturepainting #quicktip #driedpaint - Ігри
So, quick tip: Store paint upside down and always check if it's properly shut all the way around.
This is to prevent air from seeping in through the cracks, as the paint will essentially seal the lid completely airtight when it's upside down. ;)
Thanks!
Good advice, thanks.
I heard that before, but YEARS after i started painting. Best advice EVER
To restore drying paint.
1. Use a tooth pick on the surface of the thick paint making dozens of holes all the way to the bottom
2. Add water so all holes are pooled. This will allow whole body of paint to soak up the water.
3. Leave it over night or for a few hours
4. stir with a toothpick
Works most of the time. Particularly good when a mostly full pot is drying up.
will try this tonight, thanks
me too@@seanduncan9722
Ten minutes to explain "add some medium and stir" is the opposite of a quick tip.
yet, admit you've watched whole video 🤪
@@MegaZidzid Yes but not nearly as rewarding as waiting a year for your reply.
yeah, it's that familiar feeling of partially fulfilled purpose of paying internet bills.🥳
Yet here I arrive, another couple months later, reaping all the rewards of the pain we all now share...
THANK YOU!
I use plain ol tap water. Have for years and years. There was a time when GW made bottles that snapped tight. I recent years I swear they WANT the paints to dry to force you to buy another. I have 20 year old paints in Origonal Citidel bottles that have never dried out.
exactly my thoughts
Same I have a bunch of new Citadel Paints I got 2 years ago, Only opened one. And it's almost dried completely. My 15 year old bottle of Bilious green it still flows nicely
I use filtered tap water to thin mine out (Go go Brita!). If I weren't so lazy, I'd boil the water first to clean out any other additives that might interfere with the paint.
I've got some of the old GW paints from around 1995 that are near flawless still. Contrast that to about a dozen paints I got around 6-7 years ago, where close to half of them are totally dried out and useless, even though I properly closed and maintained the lids.
Do the "new" paints (since the paint name changes) use different pots?
I bought a starter paint set and no joke every single paint was dried out. The guy at the store replaced them but still every one. Im getting a layer set and shade set next weak and im gonna open it in the GW store and check all the paints before I take it home.
@@conspiracybear1564 Ouch man.. You'd think they would realize how poorly their pots are and do something about it
Really good video. Despite being a long-time gamer, I never knew that there were specific thinners you should use to fix paints... no wonder mine all dried out.
With all my bottles and jars of acrylic paint I keep the tops clean (to keep them airtight) but I also add a 6mm stainless steel ball-bearing to each bottle. Each time I use it I add a drop of acrylic thinners, shake the bottle hard, and the stainless steel ball-bearing smashes around inside and liquidises the paint beautifully, it is like a mini food blender. Do this regularly and add a little acrylic thinners after each use of the pot to compensate for any drying which happened while the pot was open.
As a result of using stainless steel ball-bearings and thinners, all my pots are now liquid, smooth and available for immediate use. I no longer use cocktail sticks or matchsticks to stir them. Less fuss, less mess.
The ball-bearings MUST by stainless steel as normal steel will rust in the water-based paint. I buy 50 x 6mm stainless steel ball-bearings for around £5 on the internet. 5mm to 7mm will do, I find 6mm the best. When the paint eventually runs out, fish the old ball-bearing out, wash it in clean water and it can be used in another pot. I have a packet of spare ball-bearings in stock and add one BB to every new pot I buy, on day of purchase.
I find water is a poorer choice to thin these paints. The acrylic thinner makes the paint 'creamy' and it flows much easier, especially on small brushes. The acrylic thinner also has a slight 'retarder' effect and slows the dry time, keeping paint workable.
Barry
Thank you for this tip. I have a STEAM club for kids where we make plastic model kits and I regularly open dried out paint pots even though they are fresh out of the box. This will help restore them. Thanks again!
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Housing Arts thank you
Phew... Thank you!
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I work on and maintain aircraft, some times we have to touch up paint in areas that needed a repair. Most of our paint comes in 2 parts and needs mixing and some of those paints have sat around enough to be even more thick than that (chromium based paint). One thing we do to try and break it up and mix with the medium and cure accelerator is put a couple of small bolts inside the bottle to assist with a shake mix. Tried the same thing with small metal BB pellets in a bottle of dried out mud texture and it worked flawlessly. Something else to keep in mind when salvaging paint and not wanting to stir.
I disagree that completely dried out bottles are unsalvageable. I've brought them back to life many times. You just have to add distilled water and stir like crazy. Add more water and repeat. I've done this with three-year-old, dried out Citadel bottles.
and if you are lazy like me just use windex.
Importman2009 and if you are cheap like me, I use the knock off brand windex from the dollar store.
@@Importman2009 wow Thank you, it really works! just take any glass cleaning it works!
@@AN-qw7ye Yeah bro. And you save money and get to reuse your old paints again wothout too much effort. Glad to hear it helped you out.
@@Importman2009 Windex ? Can you please explain what is it ? Just a clear window cleaner liquid ?
Great video on the subject. i personally have some old Citadel paints & about £110 worth so i was heart broke when i realise they had dired out. Funny the old GW pots from the 80's & early 90's don't have this problem. anyway it's great that i can save around 85% of my paints so thankyou.
Man this is a sign I should get back in to painting. All my paint has been sitting for about year.
Well timed and well liked.
completely dried out paints are what you get in those water color sets when you were a little kid. Wet your brush and brush the solid dried block of citadel paint and literally within a few strokes you will see the paint transferring to the brush. you can add a little rubbing alcohol to thinner medium
Thank you for this much needed information and advice. I've got a couple of pots that I now believe I still use. Again, thanks for the tips.
Thanks for sharing this. I was going to try water, but I think the thinning medium will be much better.
What thinning medium, other than the GW brand do you recommend?
I have 3 boxes of acrylic paints.
And all hv dreied and r looking like plastics.
What to do with that
I've restored a few by adding Windex (use it to thin rather than medium just seems to work better, have both but always use the blue stuff) 1:1 with paint like that, even tried completely dried out pot at 2 parts Windex to one part paint, let it sit for a few days closed then came back and it was stirrable and was able to use the paint inside rather than make a trip to a craft store for more
Yes... But much cheaper!
Very helpful I checked the few GW paints I had and luck was with me they all were all close right. I will keep an eye on the tab in the back from now on.
For what it's worth, I have found that the current generation of Vallejo Glaze Medium is really, really good at extending, restoring, and improving flow in any brand of model paint including Citadel. It is also cheap for a large bottle, so it's more economical than buying new paint.
I don’t care how long it takes to restore dried paint, I care about the cost. If it can be bone I would have appreciated you sharing how.
3$ a pot, for many hours are you prepared to waste too save that lol?
@@recreant359
Honestly, yes. There have been times when I've had to watch every dollar. So if I could save the paint I have I'd appreciate it. If it's lost it's lost but I don't want to waste it if I don't have to.
I don't use the paint that you are demonstrating, but I do need to revive different brands of acrylics and have found my Dremel rotary tool with a small (3/16" diameter) disposable wooden dowel attached, in lieu of a drill bit works really well and takes the work out of the endeavor.
Now, I am new to oils but I need to figure out how to revive some Schmincke Mussini Oil Paints that I paid a small fortune for but never got around to using since oil is a completely medium to me!
Ahhhh - excellent. Many thanks for the update. I was quite puzzled.
Pro tip, do buy GW paints(aside from their washes and a select handful of great paints). Try out Reaper, Vallejo, or P3 paints. They tend to have the same amount of paint, come in dropper bottles, and average a dollar less.
Thank you so much for this.
Chris thanks SOOOO much! I have spent plenty of useless funds getting new bottles!! THANK YOU
Nice video :) I have done this myself b4 and made a bottle last for years ... keep the videos a rollin! :)
hi,
wouldn't most mediums change the look of the paint? so look more matt or glossy.
wouldn't flow aid be a better solution?
I don't think the guy really realises how much paint costs for someone who doesn't do warhammer for a living, so no matter how dry it is, it IS worth my effort.
Nice tips, many thanks.
Could you do the same thing but compare the fresh paint, dried up & dry compound of the same colour? It would show if there is any difference in the finish
Iv got gw paint that's gone off even tho it was un opened and still factory sealed so its designed to fail so u buy more. Stored for 12months by the by. But my original citadel paints 15yrs old or more are useable and havent aged a day.
I've found using water and a really good shaking works amazingly well.
Sweet I'm subscribing!
Whenever I open a new pot I throw in a BB or two and shake it real well. Helps tremendously
Does anyone know where I can buy the paint medium base? My country hardly/rarely even sells any of these.
Also, can nail polish remover be used to thin dried up acrylic paint?
After the medium is added, would the paint dry up very quickly or it can be used for some period of time?
man a like your videos, make one about how to make your own shade wash
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I find using a cheap cappuccino mixer that you use for frothing coffee is a really good mixer for your paint , just make sure you don't mix for to long or you'll end up with frothy paint ! if you get a really cheap one you can make it fit the pots no problem
Good idea! I have a small food processor I use the same way.
Hey, thanks Kris!
What is is that you’re painting on? Glass table?
Thank you for the tutorial
What kind of thining medium can i use for fabric paint? Any names ?Will it still work on the fabric after adding the thinning medium?
A couple of pots of the dry compound iv bought have had almost a putty consistency and wont go onto my brush, is it possible to thin these slightly with out causing them to become basically normal paints? i just don't want to have to buy new paints because the ones i bought dried out in the store somehow
Thank you so much for the tip!
which tip? :D
I have a mortar and pestle, but if the paint is still chunky, then I guess I could look into some other paints like the ones you suggested. btw. I'm in England, so we use pounds and I don't really know if the difference in price is the same.
What do you use to reconstitute oil-based paint?
yepp work great, did it to some old paint (older than 10 years ^^) and got it just as new. did not work too god with metal paint though like dwarf bronze.. think i added to much water.. any help for that?
Great video! But my little crafting acrylic paints turn rubbery. Is there a solution for that? Thanks!
Any tips on restoring dried ceramic paint like the one pebeo sells?
Cheers . That is really helpful
Great tips on restoring paint1
I secure a small 6" wood clamp into the end of my reciprocating saw. Add a little water and a stainless "B-B" to my old paint and pull the trigger. Instant turbo paint shaker. The "BB" breaks apart all the chunks. works like a champ!
sweeet!!
I guess it depends on the type of army/ how many armies you're painting. Me, I have Tau for 40K, but I'm getting into fantasy and using daemons of Khorne and Nurgle, so I've got a lot of different paints to get, especially now that I'm taking painting more seriously.
Hi, i found that ceramite white tend to lumpy very quick. is it designated that way or i do something wrong?
Does it work as watercolor palette too?
there are a few good drill like tools with paint mixers at the end on amazon, got one for $10 and was able to fix all my 4 year old gw paints with a little added thinner
Can you share the amazon link for this please?
@@countquackulon3004 sure! heres the one I bought, though im sure there are plenty others to choose from- www.amazon.com/Badger-Air-Brush-Co-121-Paint/dp/B000BROV02/ref=sxin_0_osp48-b7672437_cov?ascsubtag=amzn1.osa.b7672437-a7a8-445e-a0c9-5154caeb3740.ATVPDKIKX0DER.en_US&creativeASIN=B000BROV02&cv_ct_cx=paint+mixer&cv_ct_id=amzn1.osa.b7672437-a7a8-445e-a0c9-5154caeb3740.ATVPDKIKX0DER.en_US&cv_ct_pg=search&cv_ct_wn=osp-search&keywords=paint+mixer&linkCode=oas&pd_rd_i=B000BROV02&pd_rd_r=3dc5e2ba-1cdc-4f1a-be09-fbd893ad08e5&pd_rd_w=mUSsv&pd_rd_wg=Y17sI&pf_rd_p=8d4ea52f-0019-4c13-93a0-8a7be587641d&pf_rd_r=XTK1WQMZVS5T69J1AG6T&qid=1585241631&s=arts-crafts&tag=spyonsite-20
@@countquackulon3004 also, if you want to spend a few extra dollars to help your paints last longer I would suggest getting some eye dropper bottles off amazon and transferring your paints into them. games workshop paint tend to have incomplete seals which makes them dry out faster:)
Quick question to anyone who can help - I've been away from painting 40k miniatures since around the mid 90's, so a fair while now. I've got some of the new GW paints which are nice, but I've found a whole load of my old paints, and quite a few of them still seem useable and not dried up. So bear in mind these are nearly 20 year old paints now, am I asking for trouble if I try to use them, maybe using a bit of medium if it seems necessary?
Haha, I randomly stumbled across this video and realized that I also have an Ushabti Bone pot that was in pretty much the same situation--- Reviving it right now :)
... and now it's "Paint Rehab Day" -- cleaning all the lids, adding thinners, etc !
so is that glass that you paint on? please let me know because im always looking for ways to become a better painter
I've always like Citadel metallics more than Vallejo, much easier to work with and thin.
Can you use paint thinners from the hardware store?
I live in a desert so drying is a problem.
I use a drill with a wooden dowel to mix and stir, dilute with nail polish remover, store my paints sideways as it creates a mini climate inside the pot that prevents loss, and i always put a rusty nail in pot after restoring. It works as a lightning rod for moisture.
Or you can use the ammonia retarder or computer as others have said here.
If it's still has some moisture left in the paint, I use water on the acrylic paints to restore them. If you are going to have paints sit for long periods of time you can fill the pot or add some water to them depending on how much time they are going to sit and how much paint is in the pot.
Geerladenlad Reaper flow improver + distilled water. I've restored years-old paints that were the consistency of moist mud.
Of course, I have Citadel Colours from 1994 (the hexagonal bottles) that are still thin and usable, and they've just sat for years.
I hate to throw out dried up paint bottles and if there isn't much paint left then I toss the bottle but I have several bottles that I might try out this idea. Thanks for the Info...
Can a thinning medium be used to dilute hardened turpentine?
Does it matter if it's water based or oil based and so on? As far as mediums.
just restored some old GW paints with matt medium, alcohol and water.. not sure how it will store, just wanted to check if it worked. (the paint was more dried out than dry compound)
I've thinned both acrylics and enamels to try and save them. It's hit or miss at best. Good tips though, thank you.
how about acrylic paint that dried up in containers for years, is there any possibilities to restore it?
Makes me glad that I changed to using heavy bodied artist paints. A little bit more work than mini paints but there are just so many more colors and such fine pigments. :) helps that my mates are professional artists (AKA unemployed :P).
How about a quick tip on realistic mud effects for robes etc. mine just look brown. it doesnt look realistic at all :(
Thank you!
Please tell me how to revive the glass painting colours .
Can i restore dried paint for wall?
The Citadel washes are great though.
I like Vallejo and Citadel but for washes Citadel is the best i have tried.
I have water based glass colours. I checked them for use after a long time and found them all dried up in a rubber like lump. please tell me to how to restore it??
Are there solvents that can dissolve acrylic that is rubber like?
Hey. If I wanted to bring it to that consistency on purpose, or even to the point of it being granular, how long would I need to leave the bottle cracked?
TheTroutkitty use a hair dryer
In a pinch ammonia mixed with distilled (or boiled) water will work. The ammonia controls the setting of the acrylic.
+2degucitas what ratio of ammonia to water do you suggest?
+georgia graham hmm good question. start small and work up.
Boiled water is not what you want. You're concentrating the impurities, whereas distilled water is the condensed steam from boiling, which is free of impurities.
With the caked on chunks of dried paint can you salvage them as well? Would it be possible to cut it into little bits and soak it in the medium until the medium can break it down to being usable again? I had managed to somewhat salvage it with water but it made the paint too runny.
Travis Fisher Citadel paints are water based acrylics. Water will break it down. Too much water will destroy it. Lahmian medium or other mediums/thinners for acrylic paints are best.
Wouldn't dripping some medium into the pot and then having the pot stand in an ultrasonic cleaner for blending really make this easy?
yeah you could probably just shake it i dont know why hes saying its so difficult
You mad person you can also usemedicial all of these are fake
My acrylic color was drying so i put water in the bottle and now it's totally dilute. Help me how can i make it normal
I've had reasonable success using flow aide or a retarder. I put a few squirts into the bottle, add something to act as an agitator. I've used BB's small fishing weights and small bits if chopped up sprue, not all at one, just whatever I have on hand. Shake like a madman and you should be in good shape. I saved a bunch of drying paints and combined several pits when I switched my old GW paints to dropper bottles a few years ago. I
alright, thanks for the tip!
the thinner u use named eavy metal?
how dry is too dry? I ask this as I'm in the horrible situation after coming back to my paints after a 6 year hiatus at a guess, where 1/2 of my paints look to me to be dead. some I can poke and leave a dimple in the surface (plastic like response, like blue tack) and others seems solid.
what should I do with my white poster paint?!?! It got molds already
I have had so much trouble with citadel paints. Half of the time when I buy the paint it's already unusable. It is either already completely dry or it is almost flubbed together so much that when I try to stir it chunks get stuck in my brush and come out of the bar. Every single time I buy a citadel paint jar I have to buy another one and usually that one works
Fuck the negative comments, I appreciate the amount of detail that you wanted to put in the explanation, they don't sell any wargames related products locally wgere I live so been able to restore a bottle is really meaningful for me ( a lot more than 5 bucks). Thanks for the vid.
What kind of paint? Acrylics?
Is "Eavy Metal Medium" the same as Lahmian Medium?
Any tips of how to store the paint to make it last longer? Is there a temperature range that prevents the paint from drying out? Does the amount of direct sunlight factor with the quality of the paint?
Travis Fisher ua-cam.com/video/Tem_UmPvrv8/v-deo.html
Now I've learnt something new. GW didn't have any pastel coloured paints.
Agreed, the washes are awesome and I will stand behind them 100% of the time. But I find Vallejo to be of a much higher quality and consistency. I've still got bottles of Vallejo paint that still work which I have owned for well over 5 years. I brought 2 pots of Citadel paints a couple of months back and they're now utterly useless. I'm sick of buying new paints once every 2 or 3 months or so because Citadel and games workshop have such a poor paint pot design.
distilled water does the trick too for long term care, a drop in your paints after a session
So is this paint thinner?
Where can I buy medium from that's not from GW?
revell paints for models have the best paint containers, they are metal, with a metal lid, but can be a pain to open.
How about dried out acrylics in tubes, please ?