Zuko: I'll wait outside Katara's tent all night, itd be rude to go in. Zuko: i'll wait until uncle wakes up its rude otherwise Zuko: SOKKA i dont care if you were about to get some tell me about your dead mom quick
It shows where Zuko was in each of his relationships. If you're going into someone's room you knock first. Its just polite. But if that person is a good friend you barge in on them and jump on their bed like you own the place because you're that comfortable with each other.
This series taught KIDS about spiritual energy and some fundamentals of Buddhism, how you can find your own path, and even if you’re going down a bad road, it’s not too late to turn around and redeem yourself. There won’t be another show like this for a very very long time.
Especially considering in today's age we shame and cancel a person for a single tweet they made when they were a dumb teenager 10+ years ago. Nowadays there is no redemption.
"obviously iroh's gonna forgive him" BRUH ITS THE LIFETIME OF ABUSE THATS PRIMED ZUKO TO BELIEVE NOT ONLY THAT THE FATHER FIGURES IN HIS LIFE WILL RESPOND TO HIS MISTAKES WITH ANGER AND VIOLENCE, BUT THAT ANGER AND VIOLENCE IS WHAT HE DESERVES!!!!! ITS HARD TO UNDO THAT KIND OF CONDITIONING AND EVEN IF HE CAN TELL HIMSELF LOGICALLY THAT IROH WILL FORGIVE HIM, ITS HARD FOR HIM TO BELIEVE IT, BECAUSE ON SOME LEVEL HE CANT SHAKE THE FEELING THAT BEING UNFORGIVEN AND REJECTED IS ALL HE'S WORTH ahem. anyway. emotional dump over, stan uncle iroh, and remember that abuse and trauma can do some gnarly things to a person's mind ✌
As someone who grew up in an emotionally abusive household, and where everything you said or did was met with criticism and punishment, i can attest 100% that it’s not really something you ever move on from. I’m 20 now but i still feel dread and ready to be beaten-down even from my friends just for making mistakes. Zuko being afraid of Iroh lashing out at him or being furious with him is completely reasonable, and if i were in Zuko’s shoes i probably wouldn’t have been brave enough to go back to him, even if in reality i was under no danger all along-
yeah as someone who was abused myself, I really resonate with Zuko as a character and it's a lot easier for me to understand a lot of the emotional turmoil he grows through. Even after years of undoing bad parenting and conditioning, I still catch myself expecting to receive abusive and painful responses to the mistakes I make. He's only just started undoing all that trauma. He still expects pain as a response to insubordination.
Yes, but even without a lifetime of abuse, anyone would hesitate before reuniting with a family member that they wronged and betrayed and wouldn't expect to be forgiven.
"I'm just gonna take a wild guess that Kyoshi's gonna be like "Kill him". She doesn't seem like the merciful type" OMG IM HNGAJJAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHQHAHAHAHA
Sebastopol if you’re asking for a friend then why do u have to ask if she is single you’re going to get friend zoned if you just say I want to be friends my guy
At the beginning of the series, Zuko loudly and disrespectfully yelled at Iroh to wake up. At the end, he humbly stayed awake and waited for his Uncle to wake up. The little things, man.
Ariosor11 yeah heard that yesterday too Dante Basco said that he/ they left because he didn’t agree with how they want the show to turn out :/ not a good sign sadly
to paraphrase captain america: "it doesn't matter if the whole country is telling you something wrong is right. If the whole world is telling you to move. It is your duty to plant yourself like a tree and say no. you move." this is aang's struggle in this episode. In his heart he knows that he believes killing is wrong. despite everyone, even his own past lives, telling him different he has to stick to his beliefs no matter the consequences. And the universe (or more specifically the lion turtle) rewards him by providing him with a different, better way.
@@benjipixel1438 please tell me thats a joke... because theres so many stupid people on the internet that i can actually believe someone would think such an obvious contradictory statement to be true... In case not: the definition of a killer is a person that kills. regardless of if the person is themselves a killer or not, by definition you are still a killer if you kill them. And since thats the case that therefore proves the initial statement wrong because if it were true that would then mean that killing you would be the "right thing to do". Because you are now a killer and killing killers is "always right" according to you. And then of course that starts an infinite cycle of killing killers. So both of those statements are completely false.
@@benjipixel1438 Would you be justified to kill a Veteran? Or someone who has killed in self defence? No ofc not. And ofc killing a killer makes you a killer tf.. I hope you're just a kid, and not someone who actually was making a srs statement.
@@benjipixel1438 killing a killer makes you a killer cause you killed, basically the moral of the story is don't change who you are and what you believe for nobody even when everythings against you. You may believe in killing a killer but Aang doesn't so he shouldn't do it and you can apply this lesson in your day to day life and then you will invincible and unwavering
They foreshadowed the lion turtles before -in Wan Shi tongs spirit library they found a drawing of a lion turtle -in sokka's sword master, piandao's door knockers were lion turtle heads -piandao tells sokka he has a heart "as big as a lion turtle" "there were Lion turtle statues in Piandao's rock garden.
Sara Moreira if you think about it, it makes sense in the context of him being a nonbender member of the white lotus. There were no benders before the lion turtles, they are all fundamentally the same, no matter what a person bends or if they bend at all, they are equals, the lion turtles may be a symbol of that.
And absolutely none of that implies even slightly that energy bending exists or that they can do it OR that they can instantly grant the power to other people with no hassle. Almost like the writers hadn't thought of the solution until a few episodes ago
It's not a cult. It's a secret society. Google defines a cult as "a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object." The White Lotus doesn't fit this definition.
The true mind can weather all the lies and illusions without being lost. The true heart can tough the poison of hatred without being harmed. Since beginning-less time, darkness thrives in the void, but always yields to purifying light." -Lion Turtle
@@jonathanfoster4202 Essentially, you have to be strong enough mentally, physically and spiritually in order to survive the darkness which includes hatred, lies, illusions etc. Since the beginning of time, darkness has always existed but it has eventually bowed down to the light. So no matter how and hopeless the situation is, there is always light at the end of the tunnel. In context of energy bending. Aang has to be pure hearted (light) in order to not be corrupted by dark souls like Ozai. Make his darkness yield to the purifying light of Aang's spirit instead of Aang being corrupted by darkness (the lies, illusions and hatred of Ozai).
@@jonathanfoster4202 It's great because I was a child when I first watched the cartoon. Didn't understand it at all. However, as an adult it makes sense. I love that because I can continue appreciating the show even more. Kids should be exposed to things they do not understand so when they become adults they have an epiphany and greater sense of appreciation and understanding.
@Haku infinite all true, but i think he recognized it bc of them seeing a book about them in the ancient library in the desert. There was one scene where he was like "hey sokka, check out these crazy lion turtle things"
I always thought it was amazing writing how even when everyone was telling him the only way was to kill him he was able to look hard enough and found another solution. This show is filled with life lessons all over and that’s why it’s a masterpiece.
Exactly. In my religion, and I know many others as well, violence is almost never the answer. I loved the fact that Aang wasn't willing to kill him. Also, yeah, he was literally 12. These people really want a literal child to become a murderer. Maybe I'm just biased because I don't approve of the death penalty, but I agree wholeheartedly with Aang's decision.
I completely agree. What's bothering me is that they (some reactors) are like so on board with Aang killing the firelord but they don't even look at the situation in Aangs perspective. Aang is against it because it goes against his morals. It may be the "right" decision to take the firelords life but it doesn't mean its what need to be done.
Taking another person’s life is something that violates Aang’s code of morality in the most severe way possible. It’s something he fundamentally believes is wrong and that goes against all of his values. It’s not a “duh of course you should kill him” moment, this is Aang’s biggest dilemma. Not only does he have to save the world, but he has to do it the right way and he feels that murder deep inside goes against everything he knows. That’s why he’s desperately calling out to the universe to show him another way.
I agree. I, for example, don't find it so self-evident either that he'd have to kill the Firelord in order to save the world. To me all life has value.
Phoenix one not intentionally if he did. Now is the moment he has to intentionally knowingly kill someone. Also he’s 12. That’s a lot on a 12 year old obviously lmao
We all wish we had an uncle iroh, but we don’t, so try and be an uncle iroh for someone else! Love your reactions by the way! Edit: holy heck! 309 likes?!? That’s the most I’ve ever gotten! Thank you so much fellow hotmans, flameo! I’m terribly sad to see this series ending with Shredder
People always seem to have a hard time understanding Aang and him not wanting to kill Ozai, but when you really look at _who_ Aang is it makes complete sense. First of all he’s 12 years old, so deciding to end another person’s life isn’t going to be an easy task in the first place, but you also have to consider his heritage. As an Air Nomad he views all life as sacred and that ending life isn’t an option. Whether it’s the life of a king or a peasant, an insect or a dragon, a gentle soul or a mass-murderer. But it goes even further than that, since Aang is the last of the Air Nomads. Their culture and spirituality HAS to live on with and through him, and he has to carry that responsibility. Which is why taking someone’s life is even more of a problem for him, because if he kills Ozai it would violate one of the most important parts of his culture and spirituality. Yes, from all practical angles Aang should just swoop in and absolutely destroy Ozai, it would solve all of the world’s problems. But doing so would invalidate his status as a true Air Nomad, and effectively erase the last of Air Nomad culture in his eyes. For Aang it is paramount that he stays true to his culture and spirituality because that is all he has left of his people, all the world has left of his people. If he casts that aside, then he’ll be ending the Air Nomads forever. Yes, Aang is the avatar and it is his duty to restore balance to the world. But he is also the last Air Nomad, and it is his duty to preserve and carry on his culture and teachings. The problem is that being the Avatar is now conflicting with being the last Air Nomad, and for 12 year old Aang it must feel like an impossible choice to make.
Like the title of the show “Avatar: the Last Airbender” Aang is both, and he doesn’t hold one above the other. His authority to kill as the Avatar is directly opposed to his values and his duty to uphold those values as the last of his people. That’s why it’s such a difficult decision to make (in addition to the points you’ve made, of course), it’s not just “the right thing” vs what Aang wants, it’s the epitome of the ongoing struggle between the two titles Aang holds.
I definetly agree. ALSO, people say "but Yangchen was an Air Nomad too and she thought he should kill Ozai" but firt of all: Aang and Yangchen are two different people, second: she is an adult and he is a kid, and third: Yangchen probably had years of training and asume that her duty was to do anything to protect the world since she found out she was the Avatar, even if it was hard for her at first, after so many years she could've had just asumed she had no other option, but Aang found out like a year ago and barely had training (also, again he is a kid), so it's normal for him to not want to give up his morals, it would be very weird for him to just change his mind or accept killing as an option in such a short span of time. Maybe if he had more years of training for being the Avatar of if he was raised like Yangchen MAYBE he would've accepted that option.
@@maruguida8056 Another way why the option of killing someone came easier to Yangchen was because she was not the last airbender. During her times, there was many more air nomads to carry on the tradition and culture. Her killing someone does not kill the entire culture of the air nomads. This is the problem that Aang is facing: him killing Ozai would lead to him feeling that he is not a true air nomad, leading to his end of his culture.
Maru Guida Yangchen was also able to make peace with the fact that other nomads could preserve and uphold her heritage. Aang was the only one of his people left so he couldn’t do that,
A quote from Lord of the Rings sums up what Aang believes pretty well "Some that deserve life deserve death some that die deserve life can you give it to them?" -Gandalf
I love how the show never really frames a "single right answer or solution." Every advice the avatars gave were valid. However what Aang wants was also valid.
“The true mind can weather all the lies and illusions without being lost. The true heart can tough the poison of hatred without being harmed. Since beginningless time, darkness thrives in the void, but always yields to purifying light.” by the Lion Turtle, got me chills every time bro 👌🏻 and “I was never angry with you, I'm just sad because I'm afraid you lost your way.” by Iroh, got tear me up every time.. AHHHHH THE EXCELLENCE OF THE WRITING IN THIS SERIES!
Kyoshi in the show: “Only justice will bring peace” Kyoshi in the fandom: “End that man’s life. End all their lives.” Edit: I was so confused by all the people replying about Justin, idk what happened lol
“He has to do what’s right.” That’s just it. Killing Ozai is wrong. But likewise, leaving Ozai in power is not right. However, how do you remove Ozai without killing him. Aang is tasked with committing the ultimate evil to stop evil. And he is reasonably conflicted and confused. At his young age he is facing the reality that the world is not black and white and thus there are many answers and rarely are any perfect. But as he is young, he is still flexible enough to search for new and alternate answers. Maybe there is a better one.
I👏 AGREED👏SO👏MUCH To me his conflict to whether killed the fire Lord or not is really a hard decision, I can't stress it enough how much Aang conflict is so important, I could rant all day about it lmao
I used to like this conflict Aang has and how he managed to get around it, but today I don't agree as much. The lion turtle/energy bending stuff came to solve that especific problem just in the right moment and is such an ex machina of a plot device... and I think it would be better to learn that, sometimes, there's no way around certain things. That it is good and ok to be confused and feel conflicted about doing things like that, but it is also important to have the resolve to do what must be done, otherwise you might risk let things the way they are because you want a perfect solution. There rarely is one, and that's ok.
No one said the OWL members were perfect. -Bumi is insane and a little psychotic. -Jeong Jeong has major self-loathing issues and has to be brow beaten into doing anything that can help end the war. -Piandao has inadequacy issues and is, let's face it, kinda self-centered. And apparently doesn't comprehend that OWL is a SECRET society. -Iroh laid siege to Ba Sing Se even though he KNEW better, because he prioritized a childhood dream over his values and core beliefs. So it's not just Pakku. If anything, Pakku proves that there's no such thing as a person who is too old to change for the better.
@@niyaodom1944 It's part of his backstory. Piandao was born to two prodigious firebenders, and when he turned out to be a non-bender, they abandoned him. He spent most of his life trying to prove himself to be as good a fighter as any firebender.
@@MrShadowThief No, he was legit sexist. The condescending way in which he spoke to Katara made that abundantly clear. Then he was hypocritical, basically saying it was okay for him to mock Katara and disrespect her father's efforts to find her a teacher to save southern culture, but it wasn't okay for her to disrespect northern culture by actually finding a teacher. Thankfully, he got better.
What I'm going to miss about this series is not only the development of Aang but Zuko he has went through a lot and that's why he is on of my favs of ATLA 🌪️🔥🌱🌊 (And also this channel)
I read somewhere analyzing why aang doesn’t want to kill the fire lord. A big reason could be that he is literally the last air bender and he probably feels a huge sense of obligation to uphold the values of the air nomads. Because if he doesn’t eventually share or pass down his knowledge for the air nomads then their customs and culture will be lost (not including ancient texts and stuff). Aang may feel a sense of responsibility to uphold the air nomad values in all his actions. So in that sense if he kills the fire lord then people may think he is a hypocrite since his beliefs tell him the exact opposite. But that’s just a theory.
Zuko’s grown so much since the beginning. He never showed his appreciation of his uncle, but when he lost Iroh, he lost the only REAL family member he had left. Glad to see Zuko rekindle his relationship with Iroh.
I think Kuruk was getting married in front of the pond with the koi fish (Tui and La) when koh literally came out of the water and took Kuruk's wife to the spirit world, Kuruk's been hunting Koh down ever since. It was in The Avatar extras btw
The Ancient One quote: The true mind can weather all the lies and illusions without being lost. The true heart can tough the poison of hatred without being harmed. Since beginningless time, darknesss thrives in the void, but always yields to puryfying light. In the era before the Avatar, we bent not the elements, but energy within ourselves. To bend another's energy, your own spirit must be unbendable, or you will be corrupted and destroyed.
I admire aangs determination to always look for a way to save the world without having to kill someone. I don't think it's that bad writing or anything, the only reason that turtle showed up was because of Aangs struggles.
Aang swam off to the turtle in a trance after/while meditating. The kid was actively looking forma way to not kill. Thats the only reason the lion turtle appeared
Lion turtles have actually been referenced several times throughout the show, there's been statues of them around air temples, some in the great library and in the episode where Sokka learns sword fighting, master Piandao says to Sokka, "you have a heart as big as a lion turtle's".
No spoilers just lore: The lion turtle, honourably referred to as the ancient one by the spirits, is the largest known animal in the world. In the era of Raava, lion turtles populated the spirit wilds, where they served as protectors of mankind by housing human cities on their backs. As indicated by the symbols on their foreheads, each individual lion turtle showed an affinity for one of the four elements and possessed the ability to grant individuals the power to control a certain element. I got most of this off the wiki fandom so for more lore I would suggest checking out the lion turtle section AFTER the finale incase of spoilers :)
Aconite the way I understand it is that the lion turtles gave people the elements to wield (and could take them away), but all the people was shoot them with no form or skills. The moon, sky bison, dragons and badgermoles taught the actual bending forms.
It’s interesting how they wrote Aang’s conflict for these episodes. Before the day of black sun, when he originally thought he was facing the firelord, it was all about overcoming his fear of that encounter. And you kind of expect a repeat of that going into the finale. Instead, his emotional conflict for the finale is all about his internal struggle over having to take someone’s life. It was a great decision to write it that way.
I like that Aang has that internal conflict about killing Ozai, it honestly wouldn't have made sense if he was like "yeah just gonna kill the FireLord no problem", he never killer anyone and he was raised by monks, no to mention that he is 12 years old, so I think it was necessary.
"Where would Zuko be without Iroh?" My question is: Where would Azula be with some gentle Guidance from Ursah or Iroh. Imagine: A strong and determine character fighting alongside her brother. I was always hoping for that in the comics😔
@@AmberyTear I don't know. I think Ozai was a bad influence for Azula. And because Ozai didn't like Zuko very much, Ursah focussed more on Zuko. I think she could have changed. After her breakdown this could have been a possibility in my opinion.
They said they were gonna come up with a season 4 containing her redemption arc but then that disgrace of a movie happened 😔 by the way why would we need a movie about everything that happened in season 1 why not just do a three-3 1/2 hour long movie about the whole series by a REASONABLE director not one whose movies are mostly thriller based
@@Lycanthromancer1 it's possible to firebend with your mouth, so if you want to remove his bending without killing him, you'll need to be so brutal that he would WISH to be killed instead
@@LeyvatenLoop Just strap him to a board with his head forced in one direction. He'll only be able to firebend toward wherever he's pointed. You could also gag him with something he won't want exposed to fire. I can think of a number of substances, explosives, especially.
@@maxim196 It really isn't. But A.) it would let Aang take Ozai down without killing him, B.) Ozai has done just as bad to others (if not directly, then as the head of the nation who tactily approves doing such things to others regularly, as shown by what he punished Zuko for), and C.) if LoK is anything to go by, this actually isn't out of the realm of possibility.
I really love the moment when Aang talks with all his past lives and their advice though seems straight forward "kill him" also kinda says make your own choice but let it be for the world.
Fun bit of trivia, since you wondered about it: Avatar Kuruk's laid back attitude and disengagement from the world angered Koh, so on the day of their wedding Koh crossed to the physical world through the Spirit Oasis in the North Pole (which is where the wedding ceremony was being held) and dragged Kuruk's fiancée down into the water/Spirit World as punishment. Every year after that on the anniversary of what would've been their wedding, Kuruk would enter the Spirit World and hunt for Koh. This was all explained in a canon flash-game that used to be on the Nickelodeon site, chronicling Aang's journey through the Spirit World reconnecting with his past lives, while he was in that coma after being killed by Azula at the end of Book 2. The game implies that even in the afterlife, Kuruk's spirit continues to hunt for Koh and his lost fiancée.
“Aang should kill the firelord” is a very bad outcome for both Aang, Ozai and the world. Not only is Aang saving the world, but he’s also saving the air nomad values with him. It’s a beautiful struggle and as you will see, Aang does the right thing.
@@elgranhermano8872 I disagree. I felt like the lion turtle made sense. I always felt like it showed up because it knew Aang needed it. It's a spiritual being, and Aang needed spiritual guidance, and that's what he got. I always thought energybending worked because it fit Aang and what Aang was trying to accomplish. I could have just as easily seen it being a subset of air or waterbending if not being it's own separate thing.
I love how Aang, the quintessential Airbender, tries to dodge around the subject of killing and even offers Kyoshi an excuse: "Technically you didn't actually kill Chin, he fell to his death because he was too stubborn to get out of the way." And Kyoshi's response of "Personally I don't really see the difference" is so typically head-on Earthbender. Not only does she say that she's never thought of Chin's death as NOT being her kill, but she also openly admits that the thought of it being a kill never weighed on her conscience because she knew he deserved. And then she doubles down like "And if the fucker hadn't died by accident I'd have circled back and finished him off". She really was *stone cold*
The Ancient One soundtrack: Namo A Mi Tuo Fo SHEN Di Namo - I bow/praise/honor Amituofo - Boundless/Infinte light Shen Di - God, spirit, deity "I bow to/honor the great spirit of infinite light."
"Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right." -Albus Dumbledore I feel like this captures Aang's dilemma well. Just because killing Ozai is definitely the easiest way for him to end the war, doesn't necessarily mean it's the right one. Especially before looking into alternatives. Even more so, because the particular case of Aang is a twelve year boy who was entrustet with the greatest power and responsibility in the world. He barely hit puberty and is supposed to commit an act which he never even thought he could be capable of in any way possible. Up until this late in the show, his mentality was always on "stop the firelord in less than a year. As a twelve year old who just mastered the own element. A whole lot of work there, that's gonna be first before I can even make a plan to stop him". Killing never occurred to him. He was never in any way told murder could be a solution to anything, so he didn't even think about it, and as it seems at this point everybody who believes in the way he was raised died he wants to hold on to this way even more.
The creators did explain that the lion turtle's scent is so pervasive, ancient, and powerful it masks the scent of anyone on its back since Nilah just sees it as the scent of the earth itself. Just thought I'd explain that for anyone else who was confused as I was XD
Aang, not Sokka. Also the shoulder pads of some Earthbenders generals are heads of Lion turtles, Ron jon (the beach guy, dunno how to spell his name) also hd the doornobs and in the garden of Master Piandao there are a couple of statues of them too.
Omg I so get you on the uncle Iroh part. I so so so wish I had someone like that in my life. That scene always gets to me. He spent years trying to get his father’s forgiveness just for speaking out of turn. He gets forgiven by Iroh in seconds after seeing him & after literally stabbing him in the back, just makes me tear by how surprised zuko is by this 🥺 I love this series man, I can’t believe it’s ending & I can’t wait for the next episodes!! 😁
Technically Aaang's past lives don't actually tell him to kill Ozai. They tell him "You must be decisive," "Only justice will bring peace," "You must actively shape your own destiny," and "Sacrifice your own spiritual needs, and do whatever it takes to save the world." This certainly sounds like they are implying he will need to kill the Firelord, but they aren't outright saying he needs to.
@@dearmalaysia probably, but I think that's also the point. It's not so much about providing the right answer as it is about asking the right questions and getting them to think about things they wouldn't usually consider. The show does this a lot, which I appreciate. This time just happens to be an especially complicated question with an especially complicated answer.
There was a few references to the lion turtles in the show. -In The Library Aang finds a drawing of one in an old book. -In Ba Sing Se, Sokka and (possibly) Aang stand near a sculpture of one at the Royal Palace. -In Sokka's Master, Piandao's door knockers are Lion Turtle heads. -Piandao tells sokka he has a heart "as big as a Lion Turtle", -Lion Turtle statues are in Piandao's Rock Garden.
@Devin Belver i agree with u but at the same time, its too risky to give them so much background. They wanted to keep the finale a little ambiguous, cause we all already guessed that aang would be hauling ass in the avatar state.
A lot of reactors I watch are thrown for a loop when the lion turtle shows up. But it's actually been mentioned a few times in the series. In the library episode Aang was looking at a picture of a lion turtle, and Piandao had lion turtle statues in his garden. It was even mentioned again in the latter episode when Sokka received his sword. So it didn't come completely out of nowhere.
Kyoshi and aang are complete opposite, kyoshi didint hesitate to kill someone if she needed too, that's why aang said "I knew I shouldn't have asked kyoshi" I know there's a novel for kyoshi, but I really wish we saw more of the past Avatars un the actual show, especially Avatar kyoshi. I would love to see a spin-off of any of the past Avatars.
A lot of people have a problem with the lion turtle, but I kind of like it. It’s like a celestial being that helps Aang discover his own way and adds to the mysticism
This always the most interesting part any Avatar reaction. Seeing the reactor turn on Aang. Aang doesn't want to spare Ozai because he think he's worth giving a chance but because Aang is the last airbender. He is solely responsible for uphold the air nomad tradition. That includes pacifism. The Fire nation destroy every trace of Air nomad culture and Aang doesn't want them to take non-violence from him. Aang is conflicted between good and right. Sparing the fire lord is Good, but killing him is right.
The fact the only thing left of Air Nomad culture is Aang is why it's so hard to just kill Ozai, because thats all Aang has left is his teachings. Once he abandons that he loses his vision of himself as an air nomad.
I hate how everyone is always so adamant about Aang killing the firelord. I can totally relate to Aang, in terms of ideology. Not saying that it wouldn't be better for the world, but it's gotta be the most difficult decision anyone has to make.
Exactly. Going against your spiritual ideology is a sacrifice where you basically lose a part of yourself. For others who have it, it really is something that exists deep within you. Now think of Aang’s people who have dedicated their entire way of living to their beliefs.
Because Aang was being a little bitch. Even YaangChen knew that sometimes you gotta put the bullets in somebody’s chest. Just so happens Aang got the dues ex lion turtle to save him.
@@Dezzz060 unlike yangchen, aang was the ast airbender of his time, theres no comparison. Aang is carrying the weight of the world and his people on his shoulders. Jesus thats a burden. Its not him "being a little bitch". Yangchen can afford to say these things when she wasnt the last airbender and cant understand where hes coming from. It seems the only people who are mad about the lion turtle are those who wanted aang to kill.
Menkir Dennis Lol being the “last of his kind” is irrelevant. The point is you do what you gotta do when the time comes. You think Gyatso and the other Air Nomads didn’t believe all life is sacred (even the tiniest firefly caught in its own web?). Where do you think Aang learned all that? And yet Gyatso was willing to kill any and everyone who ran up in his temple to harm the ones he loved. How many dead firebenders stood at his feet? How many fire benders did Gyatso kill without question? You can blame it on Aang being the last of his kind but he was just being a little bitch. P.S. I’m not mad at the lion turtle, but if you’re so biased you can’t see the turtle for what he is (a convenient dues ex) you’re blind dude.
@@Dezzz060 Easy to say for someone who doesn't have to make that choice. Don't you think that killing someone would be the hardest choice ever, regardless of what the background and motivation is to do so?
Bumi being fucking hard as hell.. "I didn't escape.. EVERYONE ELSE ESCAPED FROM MEEEEEE!" Remember the eclipse only took 8 minuets. Our man took back the whole city by himself.. in 8 minuets or less.
Love how the scene with Zuko finding Iroh sleep mimics when we first met them. Zuko made his Uncle wake up, this time he waits patiently for him to wake up. Gotta love that character growth! amirite!
I don't remember where, but I saw somewhere that the reason it was so hard for Aang to take a life was because he was the last of his nation. Giving up on such an important value to his nation would mean that there would be no one to continue the airbending nation.
Avatar Yangchen was the avatar before Kuruk. Yangchen was a great avatar when it came the human side of things, even being worshipped as a god by the people. She would often be in conflict with spirits to a kind of racist degree. In Kuruks life, he from the human side of things was laid back n go with the flow, that was the lie he went with. He was actually cleaning up the BS that Yangchen put him in. Thats also y he died young. Fighting dark spirits has an effect on people, especially an avatar that’s suppose to be the bridge. Kuruk was a great avatar, a sad avatar. The people of the Avatar world wouldn’t know that though. They will only see him as the worst and the one who lost his life early in life because he had too much fun and not doing his duty. Yup
It’s nice seeing you smile so much in this reaction. It shows how much this series has impacted you and how the characters have grown on you. I love watching the progression of avatar reactions on UA-cam. People always seem to start out a little skeptical, and by the end they’re crying and just want more. I love this show sooooo much and I’m glad people are finding it now and enjoying it as much as I did when I was 10-13.
Only Iroh can get me to tearbend... hope you all enjoyed part 2! Next up: The Last Agni Kai >:)
ShredderFTW the music is so beautiful ahhhhhh I can’t wait for part 3!!
Can't wait
Dude that Agni Kai is my favourite fight of the entire series. The music.... incredible
YES WE DID!!!
Yes, only I can make you tearbend
Whoever disliked, we are not angry with you, we're afraid you lost your way
lmfao perfect
Perfection
You are the uncle iroh
Best comment ever
LMAO
The last time Zuko was on his knees begging for forgiveness he was scarred. This time however he was embraced and forgiven.
Jake Lovell Iroh is so much more of a father to Zuko than Ozai
Hence the reason he was more surprised to be forgiven right away, he expected anger and rage like his dad
if you didn’t tear up in that scene you have no soul it’s so emotional
In the first episode of s1 he shouted for a guard to wake his uncle. In the finale of the show he waits for him to wake up.
I’ve watched this show for years so many times and I’ve never thought of that. So many parallels, thank you
Zuko: I'll wait outside Katara's tent all night, itd be rude to go in. Zuko: i'll wait until uncle wakes up its rude otherwise
Zuko: SOKKA i dont care if you were about to get some tell me about your dead mom quick
Because they're besties. They're opposites, but exactly the same.
Progga Paromita no special treatment needed for the boys 🤙
@@RichardYan 😂😂
Let's be honest, sokka would do the same thing if zuko was about to get laid
It shows where Zuko was in each of his relationships. If you're going into someone's room you knock first. Its just polite. But if that person is a good friend you barge in on them and jump on their bed like you own the place because you're that comfortable with each other.
This series taught KIDS about spiritual energy and some fundamentals of Buddhism, how you can find your own path, and even if you’re going down a bad road, it’s not too late to turn around and redeem yourself. There won’t be another show like this for a very very long time.
certainly not on netflix
Aidan S very good reply king
Especially considering in today's age we shame and cancel a person for a single tweet they made when they were a dumb teenager 10+ years ago. Nowadays there is no redemption.
I recommend Dragon Prince! It's on Netflix and is written by a former Avatar writer!!
Tarnbar dragon prince and she ra also have redemption arcs that are great (especially she ra) and both are on Netflix
Lion turtle voice actor is Kevin Michael Richardson, who also voiced Haru’s dad
DADDY
@@RichardYan oml.... Welp, let's get the broom, guys...
And Raven's dad Trigon in Teen Titans
DOUBLE DADDY
I hear it now!
Norman Schmitz *HELL* yeah
"obviously iroh's gonna forgive him" BRUH ITS THE LIFETIME OF ABUSE THATS PRIMED ZUKO TO BELIEVE NOT ONLY THAT THE FATHER FIGURES IN HIS LIFE WILL RESPOND TO HIS MISTAKES WITH ANGER AND VIOLENCE, BUT THAT ANGER AND VIOLENCE IS WHAT HE DESERVES!!!!! ITS HARD TO UNDO THAT KIND OF CONDITIONING AND EVEN IF HE CAN TELL HIMSELF LOGICALLY THAT IROH WILL FORGIVE HIM, ITS HARD FOR HIM TO BELIEVE IT, BECAUSE ON SOME LEVEL HE CANT SHAKE THE FEELING THAT BEING UNFORGIVEN AND REJECTED IS ALL HE'S WORTH
ahem. anyway. emotional dump over, stan uncle iroh, and remember that abuse and trauma can do some gnarly things to a person's mind ✌
Lucy Butts McGee I never saw it from that perspective🤯
As someone who grew up in an emotionally abusive household, and where everything you said or did was met with criticism and punishment, i can attest 100% that it’s not really something you ever move on from. I’m 20 now but i still feel dread and ready to be beaten-down even from my friends just for making mistakes. Zuko being afraid of Iroh lashing out at him or being furious with him is completely reasonable, and if i were in Zuko’s shoes i probably wouldn’t have been brave enough to go back to him, even if in reality i was under no danger all along-
yeah as someone who was abused myself, I really resonate with Zuko as a character and it's a lot easier for me to understand a lot of the emotional turmoil he grows through.
Even after years of undoing bad parenting and conditioning, I still catch myself expecting to receive abusive and painful responses to the mistakes I make. He's only just started undoing all that trauma. He still expects pain as a response to insubordination.
Yes, but even without a lifetime of abuse, anyone would hesitate before reuniting with a family member that they wronged and betrayed and wouldn't expect to be forgiven.
*azula is what zuko would’ve been if it weren’t for iroh... well Azula when she went crazy and she has schizophrenia.*
"I'm just gonna take a wild guess that Kyoshi's gonna be like "Kill him". She doesn't seem like the merciful type" OMG IM HNGAJJAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHQHAHAHAHA
Are you single? Asking for a friend.
@@SquawkHub yikes
You good?
@@SquawkHub facepalm
Sebastopol if you’re asking for a friend then why do u have to ask if she is single you’re going to get friend zoned if you just say I want to be friends my guy
At the beginning of the series, Zuko loudly and disrespectfully yelled at Iroh to wake up. At the end, he humbly stayed awake and waited for his Uncle to wake up. The little things, man.
There are so many reasons why Avatar The Last Airbender is such a masterpiece.
Benny Ha Iroh
It will be a shame if Netflix ruin this in their "live-action".
The main creators left! :(
@@Ariosor11 a dang shame
Ariosor11 yeah heard that yesterday too
Dante Basco said that he/ they left because he didn’t agree with how they want the show to turn out
:/ not a good sign sadly
Benny Ha Peggy quote, big respects to another marvel fan
to paraphrase captain america: "it doesn't matter if the whole country is telling you something wrong is right. If the whole world is telling you to move. It is your duty to plant yourself like a tree and say no. you move." this is aang's struggle in this episode. In his heart he knows that he believes killing is wrong. despite everyone, even his own past lives, telling him different he has to stick to his beliefs no matter the consequences. And the universe (or more specifically the lion turtle) rewards him by providing him with a different, better way.
But let's be honest, killing a killer is always the right thing to do, and it does not make you a killer
@@benjipixel1438 yes it does, to make up for it that you would have to kill 2 killers
@@benjipixel1438
please tell me thats a joke...
because theres so many stupid people on the internet that i can actually believe someone would think such an obvious contradictory statement to be true...
In case not:
the definition of a killer is a person that kills. regardless of if the person is themselves a killer or not, by definition you are still a killer if you kill them. And since thats the case that therefore proves the initial statement wrong because if it were true that would then mean that killing you would be the "right thing to do". Because you are now a killer and killing killers is "always right" according to you. And then of course that starts an infinite cycle of killing killers. So both of those statements are completely false.
@@benjipixel1438 Would you be justified to kill a Veteran? Or someone who has killed in self defence? No ofc not. And ofc killing a killer makes you a killer tf.. I hope you're just a kid, and not someone who actually was making a srs statement.
@@benjipixel1438 killing a killer makes you a killer cause you killed, basically the moral of the story is don't change who you are and what you believe for nobody even when everythings against you. You may believe in killing a killer but Aang doesn't so he shouldn't do it and you can apply this lesson in your day to day life and then you will invincible and unwavering
They foreshadowed the lion turtles before
-in Wan Shi tongs spirit library they found a drawing of a lion turtle
-in sokka's sword master, piandao's door knockers were lion turtle heads
-piandao tells sokka he has a heart "as big as a lion turtle"
"there were Lion turtle statues in Piandao's rock garden.
Sara Moreira if you think about it, it makes sense in the context of him being a nonbender member of the white lotus. There were no benders before the lion turtles, they are all fundamentally the same, no matter what a person bends or if they bend at all, they are equals, the lion turtles may be a symbol of that.
@@shelbyteague7928 Apparently, before they bended the elements they bended energy within themselves. Legend of Korra kinda ruins that lore though.
Also in the intro aang rides into a statue of a lion turtle before every episode
@@arraikcruor6407 yeah...
And absolutely none of that implies even slightly that energy bending exists or that they can do it OR that they can instantly grant the power to other people with no hassle. Almost like the writers hadn't thought of the solution until a few episodes ago
I like how shredder immediately thought the white lotus was a cult
It kinda is ...
Well I mean-
It is. But that's ok.
It's not a cult. It's a secret society. Google defines a cult as "a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object." The White Lotus doesn't fit this definition.
I like how Shredder immediately caught how the Lion Turtle was the Deus Ex Machina lmaooo
The true mind can weather all the lies and illusions without being lost. The true heart can tough the poison of hatred without being harmed. Since beginning-less time, darkness thrives in the void, but always yields to purifying light." -Lion Turtle
I never knew what he meant, but it always gave me chills nonetheless😅
@@jonathanfoster4202 Essentially, you have to be strong enough mentally, physically and spiritually in order to survive the darkness which includes hatred, lies, illusions etc. Since the beginning of time, darkness has always existed but it has eventually bowed down to the light. So no matter how and hopeless the situation is, there is always light at the end of the tunnel.
In context of energy bending. Aang has to be pure hearted (light) in order to not be corrupted by dark souls like Ozai. Make his darkness yield to the purifying light of Aang's spirit instead of Aang being corrupted by darkness (the lies, illusions and hatred of Ozai).
@@arraikcruor6407 wow....that actually makes sense...
How in the hell would a child understand that wtf😂
@@jonathanfoster4202 It's great because I was a child when I first watched the cartoon. Didn't understand it at all. However, as an adult it makes sense. I love that because I can continue appreciating the show even more. Kids should be exposed to things they do not understand so when they become adults they have an epiphany and greater sense of appreciation and understanding.
@Haku infinite all true, but i think he recognized it bc of them seeing a book about them in the ancient library in the desert. There was one scene where he was like "hey sokka, check out these crazy lion turtle things"
It always shocks me when people are surprised that a 12 year old is hesitant to murder a person.
I always thought it was amazing writing how even when everyone was telling him the only way was to kill him he was able to look hard enough and found another solution. This show is filled with life lessons all over and that’s why it’s a masterpiece.
Exactly. In my religion, and I know many others as well, violence is almost never the answer. I loved the fact that Aang wasn't willing to kill him. Also, yeah, he was literally 12. These people really want a literal child to become a murderer. Maybe I'm just biased because I don't approve of the death penalty, but I agree wholeheartedly with Aang's decision.
I completely agree. What's bothering me is that they (some reactors) are like so on board with Aang killing the firelord but they don't even look at the situation in Aangs perspective. Aang is against it because it goes against his morals. It may be the "right" decision to take the firelords life but it doesn't mean its what need to be done.
I mean Azula at 14 isn't hesitating. It's all about upbringing.
The reactors often seem to forget that Aang, no matter what power he has, is just 12
Taking another person’s life is something that violates Aang’s code of morality in the most severe way possible. It’s something he fundamentally believes is wrong and that goes against all of his values. It’s not a “duh of course you should kill him” moment, this is Aang’s biggest dilemma. Not only does he have to save the world, but he has to do it the right way and he feels that murder deep inside goes against everything he knows. That’s why he’s desperately calling out to the universe to show him another way.
But he 100% has killed people before
@@phoenixone568 Not knowingly or willingly, if he has at all.
I agree. I, for example, don't find it so self-evident either that he'd have to kill the Firelord in order to save the world. To me all life has value.
Phoenix one not intentionally if he did. Now is the moment he has to intentionally knowingly kill someone. Also he’s 12. That’s a lot on a 12 year old obviously lmao
We all wish we had an uncle iroh, but we don’t, so try and be an uncle iroh for someone else! Love your reactions by the way! Edit: holy heck! 309 likes?!? That’s the most I’ve ever gotten! Thank you so much fellow hotmans, flameo! I’m terribly sad to see this series ending with Shredder
In the future. I will try to be an Uncle Iroh for my older brother's kids.
Malpighia emarginata exactly!! I love that quote and anything that comes out of uncle irohs mouth
@@MrShadowThief It is good to solve your own problems but a little help from others can be a great blessing.- Uncle Iroh
I had an uncle Iroh in the form of my grandmother. May she rest in peace.
Eggsn Bakon hope you are doing well, your grandmother sounds wonderful! Sorry for your loss
People always seem to have a hard time understanding Aang and him not wanting to kill Ozai, but when you really look at _who_ Aang is it makes complete sense. First of all he’s 12 years old, so deciding to end another person’s life isn’t going to be an easy task in the first place, but you also have to consider his heritage. As an Air Nomad he views all life as sacred and that ending life isn’t an option. Whether it’s the life of a king or a peasant, an insect or a dragon, a gentle soul or a mass-murderer. But it goes even further than that, since Aang is the last of the Air Nomads. Their culture and spirituality HAS to live on with and through him, and he has to carry that responsibility. Which is why taking someone’s life is even more of a problem for him, because if he kills Ozai it would violate one of the most important parts of his culture and spirituality.
Yes, from all practical angles Aang should just swoop in and absolutely destroy Ozai, it would solve all of the world’s problems. But doing so would invalidate his status as a true Air Nomad, and effectively erase the last of Air Nomad culture in his eyes. For Aang it is paramount that he stays true to his culture and spirituality because that is all he has left of his people, all the world has left of his people. If he casts that aside, then he’ll be ending the Air Nomads forever.
Yes, Aang is the avatar and it is his duty to restore balance to the world. But he is also the last Air Nomad, and it is his duty to preserve and carry on his culture and teachings.
The problem is that being the Avatar is now conflicting with being the last Air Nomad, and for 12 year old Aang it must feel like an impossible choice to make.
Like the title of the show “Avatar: the Last Airbender” Aang is both, and he doesn’t hold one above the other. His authority to kill as the Avatar is directly opposed to his values and his duty to uphold those values as the last of his people. That’s why it’s such a difficult decision to make (in addition to the points you’ve made, of course), it’s not just “the right thing” vs what Aang wants, it’s the epitome of the ongoing struggle between the two titles Aang holds.
I definetly agree. ALSO, people say "but Yangchen was an Air Nomad too and she thought he should kill Ozai" but firt of all: Aang and Yangchen are two different people, second: she is an adult and he is a kid, and third: Yangchen probably had years of training and asume that her duty was to do anything to protect the world since she found out she was the Avatar, even if it was hard for her at first, after so many years she could've had just asumed she had no other option, but Aang found out like a year ago and barely had training (also, again he is a kid), so it's normal for him to not want to give up his morals, it would be very weird for him to just change his mind or accept killing as an option in such a short span of time. Maybe if he had more years of training for being the Avatar of if he was raised like Yangchen MAYBE he would've accepted that option.
@@shelbyteague7928 beautiful just beautiful
@@maruguida8056 Another way why the option of killing someone came easier to Yangchen was because she was not the last airbender. During her times, there was many more air nomads to carry on the tradition and culture. Her killing someone does not kill the entire culture of the air nomads. This is the problem that Aang is facing: him killing Ozai would lead to him feeling that he is not a true air nomad, leading to his end of his culture.
Maru Guida Yangchen was also able to make peace with the fact that other nomads could preserve and uphold her heritage. Aang was the only one of his people left so he couldn’t do that,
Let’s take this time to appreciate how Bumi single-handedly took back his city.... in 8 minutes....
A Kiyoshi quote that goes with her original message and the novels' backstories is "You have to assume responsibility for the lives you spare"
That edit when Aang was talking to Momo is great
The reason Zuko was shocked is that no one has forgived him that easily like iroh
Toph Beifong oh yeah, last time he asked for forgiveness from family, he got burned on half of his face
A quote from Lord of the Rings sums up what Aang believes pretty well
"Some that deserve life deserve death some that die deserve life can you give it to them?" -Gandalf
I think you mispelled that quote my friend (just fyi)
I cried when the Gaang was sitting with Iroh talking about what they're gonna do. I WATCHED THE SHOW 6 TIMES WHY AM I STILL CRYING
Because good writing never gets old.
I love how the show never really frames a "single right answer or solution." Every advice the avatars gave were valid. However what Aang wants was also valid.
Fun fact: when they were in the library in season 2, Aang was reading a book that had a picture of a lion turtle
“The true mind can weather all the lies and illusions without being lost. The true heart can tough the poison of hatred without being harmed. Since beginningless time, darkness thrives in the void, but always yields to purifying light.” by the Lion Turtle, got me chills every time bro 👌🏻
and
“I was never angry with you, I'm just sad because I'm afraid you lost your way.” by Iroh, got tear me up every time..
AHHHHH THE EXCELLENCE OF THE WRITING IN THIS SERIES!
i agree with u but your comment made me sleepy
Kyoshi in the show: “Only justice will bring peace”
Kyoshi in the fandom: “End that man’s life. End all their lives.”
Edit: I was so confused by all the people replying about Justin, idk what happened lol
But when the world needed him most, Justin vanished.
Kyoshi in her solo novel story is more like the Kyoshi in the eyes of the fandom.
Nirobi99 lmao
Damnit Justin, come back
@@RuffWarl0ck yeah, i havent read the 2nd book since i havent found it in my school library
When you see Zuko and Iroh hugging, you know you're going to cry
“He has to do what’s right.” That’s just it. Killing Ozai is wrong. But likewise, leaving Ozai in power is not right. However, how do you remove Ozai without killing him. Aang is tasked with committing the ultimate evil to stop evil. And he is reasonably conflicted and confused. At his young age he is facing the reality that the world is not black and white and thus there are many answers and rarely are any perfect. But as he is young, he is still flexible enough to search for new and alternate answers. Maybe there is a better one.
"How do you remove Ozai without killing him"?
Easy. Chop his limbs off and cauterize the stumps.
I👏 AGREED👏SO👏MUCH
To me his conflict to whether killed the fire Lord or not is really a hard decision, I can't stress it enough how much Aang conflict is so important, I could rant all day about it lmao
At least with the eclipse they could capture and imprison Ozai. But with the power of Sozin's Comet in Ozai's favour, it makes more sense to kill him.
I used to like this conflict Aang has and how he managed to get around it, but today I don't agree as much. The lion turtle/energy bending stuff came to solve that especific problem just in the right moment and is such an ex machina of a plot device... and I think it would be better to learn that, sometimes, there's no way around certain things. That it is good and ok to be confused and feel conflicted about doing things like that, but it is also important to have the resolve to do what must be done, otherwise you might risk let things the way they are because you want a perfect solution. There rarely is one, and that's ok.
Removing something in order for the world to be a better place is hardly the ultimate evil
Your editing has gotten so good. Like it's been great before but these past few episodes it's been just amazing, some even got me laughing out loud
“Where would this series be without Iroh?” Where would the world be without Iroh, honestly?
Me: Commenting during a premiere.
Shredder: That’s illegal.
Ha
"Only justice will bring peace."- Can we talk about that line? For Aang it doesnt exactly help but thats so fire i got chills
no justice, no peace!
Aang: “Past Avatars, I need your wisdom”
Roku: “Be decisive”
Korrig: “Shape your own destiny
Yangchen: “Self sacrifice”
Kyoshi: M U R D E R
Yeah that....sounds about right
*Kurruk
@@lenavonpreuen4869 no, it’s kuruk
So, Paku is part of a secret order that transcends the four nations... BUt wOmEN cAN't LEaRn WaTERbeNDiNg! gO BaCK to HEaLIng hUt!
Well, we also don't see any women in the White Lotus... it could be a boy's only club at this time.
No one said the OWL members were perfect.
-Bumi is insane and a little psychotic.
-Jeong Jeong has major self-loathing issues and has to be brow beaten into doing anything that can help end the war.
-Piandao has inadequacy issues and is, let's face it, kinda self-centered. And apparently doesn't comprehend that OWL is a SECRET society.
-Iroh laid siege to Ba Sing Se even though he KNEW better, because he prioritized a childhood dream over his values and core beliefs.
So it's not just Pakku. If anything, Pakku proves that there's no such thing as a person who is too old to change for the better.
AtarahDerek Hey, what episode said/implied that Master Piandao had “inadequacy issues?” I don’t recall that popping up in his debut.
@@niyaodom1944 It's part of his backstory. Piandao was born to two prodigious firebenders, and when he turned out to be a non-bender, they abandoned him. He spent most of his life trying to prove himself to be as good a fighter as any firebender.
@@MrShadowThief No, he was legit sexist. The condescending way in which he spoke to Katara made that abundantly clear. Then he was hypocritical, basically saying it was okay for him to mock Katara and disrespect her father's efforts to find her a teacher to save southern culture, but it wasn't okay for her to disrespect northern culture by actually finding a teacher. Thankfully, he got better.
june: we need something with the avatars scent
Shredder: I mean just smell katara if ya no what I mea-
FBI open up!
I was rolling lmao
Oliver Fernando I’m judging you
What I'm going to miss about this series is not only the development of Aang but Zuko he has went through a lot and that's why he is on of my favs of ATLA 🌪️🔥🌱🌊 (And also this channel)
Fax
“Or you could just smell katara if ya know what I mean” has me wheezing on the ground 😂😂😂😂😭
I read somewhere analyzing why aang doesn’t want to kill the fire lord. A big reason could be that he is literally the last air bender and he probably feels a huge sense of obligation to uphold the values of the air nomads. Because if he doesn’t eventually share or pass down his knowledge for the air nomads then their customs and culture will be lost (not including ancient texts and stuff). Aang may feel a sense of responsibility to uphold the air nomad values in all his actions. So in that sense if he kills the fire lord then people may think he is a hypocrite since his beliefs tell him the exact opposite. But that’s just a theory.
Shredder: eh I dont really cry when I watch something
Also shredder: [cries multiple times during this show]
remember in the first episode when shredder said "this is the guy right? this is the guy" about iroh
Aang: You didn't really kill him, he just fell
Kyoshi: and i'd do it again
Firebenders: we rise with the sun.
Waterbenders: we rise with the moon
Earthbenders: EARTH IS EARTH !
Airbender: woooosh
*Piandio, Jeong Jeong, Pakku, and Bumi show up*
SFTW: Yo, this finale bout to be hype!
Zuko’s grown so much since the beginning. He never showed his appreciation of his uncle, but when he lost Iroh, he lost the only REAL family member he had left. Glad to see Zuko rekindle his relationship with Iroh.
Remember, Spirits can enter the mortal world so it's more likely that Koh went to attack mortals in search of new faces for his collection.
Maybe he wanted to impress the girl and brought him to the spirit world somehow. Thats why he blamed himself.
I think Kuruk was getting married in front of the pond with the koi fish (Tui and La) when koh literally came out of the water and took Kuruk's wife to the spirit world, Kuruk's been hunting Koh down ever since. It was in The Avatar extras btw
The Ancient One quote:
The true mind can weather all the lies and illusions without being lost.
The true heart can tough the poison of hatred without being harmed.
Since beginningless time, darknesss thrives in the void, but always yields to puryfying light.
In the era before the Avatar, we bent not the elements, but energy within ourselves.
To bend another's energy, your own spirit must be unbendable, or you will be corrupted and destroyed.
Bruh, spoilers. Those last two lines are in Part 4.
Edit: I'm stupid, he's obviously seen the entire finale at this point lmao
@@Amber-sc9jp he's already finished avatar though. These are pre-recorded
@@samdude1526 Thank you
@@tomascarvalho7514 No problem G. Have a good day!
I admire aangs determination to always look for a way to save the world without having to kill someone. I don't think it's that bad writing or anything, the only reason that turtle showed up was because of Aangs struggles.
Aang swam off to the turtle in a trance after/while meditating. The kid was actively looking forma way to not kill. Thats the only reason the lion turtle appeared
Lion turtles have actually been referenced several times throughout the show, there's been statues of them around air temples, some in the great library and in the episode where Sokka learns sword fighting, master Piandao says to Sokka, "you have a heart as big as a lion turtle's".
I love how he silently respects the importance of the Zuko/Iroh scene. Amazing reactor.
No spoilers just lore:
The lion turtle, honourably referred to as the ancient one by the spirits, is the largest known animal in the world. In the era of Raava, lion turtles populated the spirit wilds, where they served as protectors of mankind by housing human cities on their backs. As indicated by the symbols on their foreheads, each individual lion turtle showed an affinity for one of the four elements and possessed the ability to grant individuals the power to control a certain element.
I got most of this off the wiki fandom so for more lore I would suggest checking out the lion turtle section AFTER the finale incase of spoilers :)
Lowkey spoiler. Just watch korra to know more about the lion turtlrs
Anyhow this contradicts the lore that humans first learned from animals/moon
@@weltraumkotze It doesn't, though.
Aconite the way I understand it is that the lion turtles gave people the elements to wield (and could take them away), but all the people was shoot them with no form or skills. The moon, sky bison, dragons and badgermoles taught the actual bending forms.
It’s interesting how they wrote Aang’s conflict for these episodes. Before the day of black sun, when he originally thought he was facing the firelord, it was all about overcoming his fear of that encounter. And you kind of expect a repeat of that going into the finale.
Instead, his emotional conflict for the finale is all about his internal struggle over having to take someone’s life. It was a great decision to write it that way.
I like that Aang has that internal conflict about killing Ozai, it honestly wouldn't have made sense if he was like "yeah just gonna kill the FireLord no problem", he never killer anyone and he was raised by monks, no to mention that he is 12 years old, so I think it was necessary.
"Where would Zuko be without Iroh?"
My question is: Where would Azula be with some gentle Guidance from Ursah or Iroh.
Imagine: A strong and determine character fighting alongside her brother.
I was always hoping for that in the comics😔
I honestly think that she was born sociopath or something of the sort because she was cruel even as a child.
@@AmberyTear I don't know. I think Ozai was a bad influence for Azula. And because Ozai didn't like Zuko very much, Ursah focussed more on Zuko.
I think she could have changed. After her breakdown this could have been a possibility in my opinion.
@@konrad3 idk... I know some people like her who don't change no matter what so i lost that hope for some people.
@@AmberyTear I think that everyone can change when he gets enough time and guidance - Man that sounds like Tenzin😀
They said they were gonna come up with a season 4 containing her redemption arc but then that disgrace of a movie happened 😔 by the way why would we need a movie about everything that happened in season 1 why not just do a three-3 1/2 hour long movie about the whole series by a REASONABLE director not one whose movies are mostly thriller based
You gotta realize Aang is like 12 years old. He shouldn’t have to “kill” anyone...
Meh. Just hack the bastard's limbs off. He has firebending, right? Cauterize the suckers, and he'll (eventually) be (kind of) fine.
@@Lycanthromancer1 it's possible to firebend with your mouth, so if you want to remove his bending without killing him, you'll need to be so brutal that he would WISH to be killed instead
@@LeyvatenLoop Just strap him to a board with his head forced in one direction. He'll only be able to firebend toward wherever he's pointed. You could also gag him with something he won't want exposed to fire. I can think of a number of substances, explosives, especially.
@@Lycanthromancer1 What is wrong with you ? It's a kids show dude
@@maxim196 It really isn't. But A.) it would let Aang take Ozai down without killing him, B.) Ozai has done just as bad to others (if not directly, then as the head of the nation who tactily approves doing such things to others regularly, as shown by what he punished Zuko for), and C.) if LoK is anything to go by, this actually isn't out of the realm of possibility.
I really love the moment when Aang talks with all his past lives and their advice though seems straight forward "kill him" also kinda says make your own choice but let it be for the world.
@Haku infinite Me too
Fun bit of trivia, since you wondered about it: Avatar Kuruk's laid back attitude and disengagement from the world angered Koh, so on the day of their wedding Koh crossed to the physical world through the Spirit Oasis in the North Pole (which is where the wedding ceremony was being held) and dragged Kuruk's fiancée down into the water/Spirit World as punishment. Every year after that on the anniversary of what would've been their wedding, Kuruk would enter the Spirit World and hunt for Koh.
This was all explained in a canon flash-game that used to be on the Nickelodeon site, chronicling Aang's journey through the Spirit World reconnecting with his past lives, while he was in that coma after being killed by Azula at the end of Book 2. The game implies that even in the afterlife, Kuruk's spirit continues to hunt for Koh and his lost fiancée.
“Aang should kill the firelord” is a very bad outcome for both Aang, Ozai and the world. Not only is Aang saving the world, but he’s also saving the air nomad values with him. It’s a beautiful struggle and as you will see, Aang does the right thing.
But this isnt about him, THIS IS ABOUT THE WORLD
@@elgranhermano8872 And he saved the world. So what's the problem?
@Marcelo Biazze Piero i agree
@@ryancox4498 yeah, but that turtle power was just deus ex machina
The author must realize he wrote himself into a corner
@@elgranhermano8872 I disagree. I felt like the lion turtle made sense. I always felt like it showed up because it knew Aang needed it. It's a spiritual being, and Aang needed spiritual guidance, and that's what he got. I always thought energybending worked because it fit Aang and what Aang was trying to accomplish. I could have just as easily seen it being a subset of air or waterbending if not being it's own separate thing.
Brother: Why you seem so down?
Me: I have to wait another 24hrs for a Shredder masterpiece.
Him: “that’s rough buddy”
Haku infinite
Me: *sniffs*
“That’s so sad”
I love how Aang, the quintessential Airbender, tries to dodge around the subject of killing and even offers Kyoshi an excuse: "Technically you didn't actually kill Chin, he fell to his death because he was too stubborn to get out of the way."
And Kyoshi's response of "Personally I don't really see the difference" is so typically head-on Earthbender. Not only does she say that she's never thought of Chin's death as NOT being her kill, but she also openly admits that the thought of it being a kill never weighed on her conscience because she knew he deserved. And then she doubles down like "And if the fucker hadn't died by accident I'd have circled back and finished him off". She really was *stone cold*
Fun Fact. Aang actually read a scroll about Lion Turtles back in the Library in season 2, and Korra goes more in depth with the lore behind them.
The Ancient One soundtrack:
Namo A Mi Tuo Fo SHEN Di
Namo - I bow/praise/honor
Amituofo - Boundless/Infinte light
Shen Di - God, spirit, deity
"I bow to/honor the great spirit of infinite light."
I swear, the best part of your videos are the edits. Got me dying at the most random times! 😂
Iroh: A brother killing a brother to take power is wrong
Also Iroh: You need to take down Azula to become the firelord
Ahhhh the tears have begun.
BTW the lion turtles are mentioned in book 2 when Aang finds a scroll in the library and shows a picture to Katara!
"Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right."
-Albus Dumbledore
I feel like this captures Aang's dilemma well. Just because killing Ozai is definitely the easiest way for him to end the war, doesn't necessarily mean it's the right one. Especially before looking into alternatives. Even more so, because the particular case of Aang is a twelve year boy who was entrustet with the greatest power and responsibility in the world. He barely hit puberty and is supposed to commit an act which he never even thought he could be capable of in any way possible. Up until this late in the show, his mentality was always on "stop the firelord in less than a year. As a twelve year old who just mastered the own element. A whole lot of work there, that's gonna be first before I can even make a plan to stop him". Killing never occurred to him. He was never in any way told murder could be a solution to anything, so he didn't even think about it, and as it seems at this point everybody who believes in the way he was raised died he wants to hold on to this way even more.
Yangchen summed up her advise beautifully.
When you need to cheat on a maths exam:
"Yo Kyoshi. Roku. You got this right?"
The creators did explain that the lion turtle's scent is so pervasive, ancient, and powerful it masks the scent of anyone on its back since Nilah just sees it as the scent of the earth itself. Just thought I'd explain that for anyone else who was confused as I was XD
Oh wow i never knew that. Thank you for the info!
Sokka was holding a scroll that had a lion turtle in it in the library 😂 and Piandao's mansion doors that lionturtle doorknobs
Aang, not Sokka. Also the shoulder pads of some Earthbenders generals are heads of Lion turtles, Ron jon (the beach guy, dunno how to spell his name) also hd the doornobs and in the garden of Master Piandao there are a couple of statues of them too.
Omg I so get you on the uncle Iroh part. I so so so wish I had someone like that in my life. That scene always gets to me. He spent years trying to get his father’s forgiveness just for speaking out of turn. He gets forgiven by Iroh in seconds after seeing him & after literally stabbing him in the back, just makes me tear by how surprised zuko is by this 🥺 I love this series man, I can’t believe it’s ending & I can’t wait for the next episodes!! 😁
Friendly reminder that the eclipse only lasted 8 minutes. Meaning Bumi liberated all of Omashu within that time frame.
No matter how many times I watch this series, Uncle Iroh hugging Zuko always gets the waterworks going
Technically Aaang's past lives don't actually tell him to kill Ozai. They tell him "You must be decisive," "Only justice will bring peace," "You must actively shape your own destiny," and "Sacrifice your own spiritual needs, and do whatever it takes to save the world." This certainly sounds like they are implying he will need to kill the Firelord, but they aren't outright saying he needs to.
Little kids who watch this are probably really, really confused.
@@dearmalaysia probably, but I think that's also the point. It's not so much about providing the right answer as it is about asking the right questions and getting them to think about things they wouldn't usually consider. The show does this a lot, which I appreciate. This time just happens to be an especially complicated question with an especially complicated answer.
They totally meant for Aang to kill him, they just said it vaguely so they would have reasonable deniability in court.
There was a few references to the lion turtles in the show.
-In The Library Aang finds a drawing of one in an old book.
-In Ba Sing Se, Sokka and (possibly) Aang stand near a sculpture of one at the Royal Palace.
-In Sokka's Master, Piandao's door knockers are Lion Turtle heads.
-Piandao tells sokka he has a heart "as big as a Lion Turtle",
-Lion Turtle statues are in Piandao's Rock Garden.
Devin Belver you mean like where the lion turtles originated?
@Devin Belver i agree with u but at the same time, its too risky to give them so much background. They wanted to keep the finale a little ambiguous, cause we all already guessed that aang would be hauling ass in the avatar state.
A lot of reactors I watch are thrown for a loop when the lion turtle shows up. But it's actually been mentioned a few times in the series. In the library episode Aang was looking at a picture of a lion turtle, and Piandao had lion turtle statues in his garden. It was even mentioned again in the latter episode when Sokka received his sword. So it didn't come completely out of nowhere.
I love how when Zuko asks what Iroh is going to do after the war is over he basically just says "I'm going to live my fullest life"
Kyoshi and aang are complete opposite, kyoshi didint hesitate to kill someone if she needed too, that's why aang said "I knew I shouldn't have asked kyoshi" I know there's a novel for kyoshi, but I really wish we saw more of the past Avatars un the actual show, especially Avatar kyoshi. I would love to see a spin-off of any of the past Avatars.
At least we have the comics. It's good tho.
Right? I feel like kyoshi has a ton of awesome stories to tell about her life with her living to be over 2 centuries old!
A lot of people have a problem with the lion turtle, but I kind of like it. It’s like a celestial being that helps Aang discover his own way and adds to the mysticism
This always the most interesting part any Avatar reaction. Seeing the reactor turn on Aang. Aang doesn't want to spare Ozai because he think he's worth giving a chance but because Aang is the last airbender. He is solely responsible for uphold the air nomad tradition. That includes pacifism. The Fire nation destroy every trace of Air nomad culture and Aang doesn't want them to take non-violence from him. Aang is conflicted between good and right. Sparing the fire lord is Good, but killing him is right.
why are there four dislikes when the video hasn’t even started yet wth
People who paid to get early access to the video (which tbh just makes it more weird)
Because some people are so mean
U dont have to pay. It was on premiere.
Everyone: "Good Aang.
Now Kill Ozai. Kill him now."
Aang: "I shouldn't, it is not the Avatar way."
Everyone: "DEW IT."
Aang: I shouldn't have done that.
Everyone: He was too dangerous to be left alive
The fact the only thing left of Air Nomad culture is Aang is why it's so hard to just kill Ozai, because thats all Aang has left is his teachings. Once he abandons that he loses his vision of himself as an air nomad.
I hate how everyone is always so adamant about Aang killing the firelord. I can totally relate to Aang, in terms of ideology. Not saying that it wouldn't be better for the world, but it's gotta be the most difficult decision anyone has to make.
Exactly. Going against your spiritual ideology is a sacrifice where you basically lose a part of yourself. For others who have it, it really is something that exists deep within you. Now think of Aang’s people who have dedicated their entire way of living to their beliefs.
Because Aang was being a little bitch. Even YaangChen knew that sometimes you gotta put the bullets in somebody’s chest. Just so happens Aang got the dues ex lion turtle to save him.
@@Dezzz060 unlike yangchen, aang was the ast airbender of his time, theres no comparison. Aang is carrying the weight of the world and his people on his shoulders. Jesus thats a burden. Its not him "being a little bitch". Yangchen can afford to say these things when she wasnt the last airbender and cant understand where hes coming from.
It seems the only people who are mad about the lion turtle are those who wanted aang to kill.
Menkir Dennis Lol being the “last of his kind” is irrelevant. The point is you do what you gotta do when the time comes. You think Gyatso and the other Air Nomads didn’t believe all life is sacred (even the tiniest firefly caught in its own web?). Where do you think Aang learned all that? And yet Gyatso was willing to kill any and everyone who ran up in his temple to harm the ones he loved. How many dead firebenders stood at his feet? How many fire benders did Gyatso kill without question? You can blame it on Aang being the last of his kind but he was just being a little bitch. P.S. I’m not mad at the lion turtle, but if you’re so biased you can’t see the turtle for what he is (a convenient dues ex) you’re blind dude.
@@Dezzz060 Easy to say for someone who doesn't have to make that choice. Don't you think that killing someone would be the hardest choice ever, regardless of what the background and motivation is to do so?
Bumi being fucking hard as hell.. "I didn't escape.. EVERYONE ELSE ESCAPED FROM MEEEEEE!" Remember the eclipse only took 8 minuets. Our man took back the whole city by himself.. in 8 minuets or less.
Iroh: breathes
Everyone:
*FACTS*
Love how the scene with Zuko finding Iroh sleep mimics when we first met them. Zuko made his Uncle wake up, this time he waits patiently for him to wake up. Gotta love that character growth! amirite!
Fun fact: sokka's sword master (Piandao) also taught zuko how to sword fight.
Where is this revealed?
@@Amber-sc9jp comic
@@Amber-sc9jp comics
@@MikeDarwin732 which comics?
@@MikeDarwin732 That tells me nothing, there are a bunch of comics lol I've read The Promise and The Search, so I know it's not in either of those...
1:22 that airbending form tho, seriously op
Come for the reaction - stay for the editing “ILLUMINATI” lmaoooooo
Shredder: I’ve been through enough fantasy series to know how these things work
Me: *_honey, you got a big storm coming_*
Fun fact! To answer your question you find out why and how Kuruk’s girlfriend came in contact with Koh during the Kyoshi novel duology!
Fun fact. The lion turtle was actually teased for a second during the library episode when the gang were just vibing for information.
Namelessgamer544 not really a fun fact if u have seen it a million times
Aang: "So, about Chin the conquerer..."
Kyoshi: "YES, HE DESERVED TO DIE, AND I HOPE HE BURNS IN HELL."
I don't remember where, but I saw somewhere that the reason it was so hard for Aang to take a life was because he was the last of his nation. Giving up on such an important value to his nation would mean that there would be no one to continue the airbending nation.
Avatar Yangchen was the avatar before Kuruk. Yangchen was a great avatar when it came the human side of things, even being worshipped as a god by the people. She would often be in conflict with spirits to a kind of racist degree. In Kuruks life, he from the human side of things was laid back n go with the flow, that was the lie he went with. He was actually cleaning up the BS that Yangchen put him in. Thats also y he died young. Fighting dark spirits has an effect on people, especially an avatar that’s suppose to be the bridge. Kuruk was a great avatar, a sad avatar. The people of the Avatar world wouldn’t know that though. They will only see him as the worst and the one who lost his life early in life because he had too much fun and not doing his duty.
Yup
"Now it's time for this world to end in fire and a new one to be reborn from the ashes" This line still gives me goosebumps
cabbage man is the best character no cap
And mouth foaming guy.
R Paul wait who asked for your response
R Paul wait who asked for your response on my response
It’s nice seeing you smile so much in this reaction. It shows how much this series has impacted you and how the characters have grown on you. I love watching the progression of avatar reactions on UA-cam. People always seem to start out a little skeptical, and by the end they’re crying and just want more. I love this show sooooo much and I’m glad people are finding it now and enjoying it as much as I did when I was 10-13.