Do Sore Muscles Mean They're Growing?
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- After a tough gym sesh, your muscles are likely pretty sore-that means they're growing right? Right?? Join Hank Green and find out about what's actually happening in your body when your muscles are sore on this new episode of SciShow! Let's go!
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More pain does not equal more gain.
The very definition of my first marriage.
welp
awesome.
+Waltham1892 LMAO
Moldovahkiin My ex-wife does, why not you too?
LOL
This is actually quite practical bit of science. You should do more episodes about anatomy, sports etc. That's probably a mine of views.
+Cosmonauteable He's got decent content but I wouldn't say professional. His video titles are click-baity af and he is always trying to sell you his programs.
+Cosmonauteable I prefer Buff Dudes
+Pakislav Science about sports? as in physics, physiology, probability, physiology, science about sports is pretty vague
the guy is simply not educated about nutrition or training. if you want to approach nutrition and training from a perspective of science i reccomend layne norton and eric helms. Hes much more of experience dictats what i do. Which isnt always right. but to each his own
It took you two minutes to explain something that these fitness channels has made so confusing. Thanks a lot.
if you were confused by this concept at all....you're an idiot. Don't blame the fitness channels for your stupidity.
Isn't exactly hard to understand.
+Darius the Great
yeah, but HIGH intensity and LONG duration dont go together that well, thats why you mostly better off going for a longer duration, when you want to burn more calories.
reading your comment, Im still not sure what you mean with "same" duration, so I might be totally missing your point ^^
If I want to aim for maximum calories, I take out a map, pick a destination 40-70 km away, get on my bike and do a good old sunday there-and-back-again ^^
+Omeir Khan Fitness advisers don't want you to know how simple and shallow their field is. Magazines, supplement suppliers and fitness models all want you to think there are endless things to try and talk about when it's comically basic because they want to continue to have a business or career as long as possible.
I don't feel we got an answer...
basically the answer is yes soreness = muscle "damage" therefore repair/growth...BUT don't be a dumbass and send yourself to snap city thinking you're making all kindz of gainz!! But it's all just advice....do whatever THE FUCK you wanna do :)
+alekmoth What? Is "maybe" not an answer to you? Are you not entertained???
I also wanted and expected a clearer answer though.
+alekmoth We did actually. Muscle soreness doesn't necessarily mean muscle growth. The two are independent, and there is no statistical, let alone causal relationship.
+Juan Pablo Mina Muscle soreness doesn't mean muscle growth, but it can be a indication of the muscle growth from the micro tears in the muscle. You also need a surplus of calories and protein for the body to utilize it for repairing damaged muscle. Growth=time under tension, ex: curling 50 pounds slowly.
I think its similar to the effects of studying something for an extended period, a small amount of pain meaning a small amount study, after too much study, or too much pain, the point of diminishing returns kicks in, and with even more pain or study, it can start to have a negative effect. I think ideally you want to have a small amount of soreness, too much tearing can do damage, but none means you didn't really do anything.
Answer- " no, maybe idk I don't workout but science.."
+Atlfan556 Spot on!
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+roarodon No it doesn't
Bro, working out or not has nothing to do with being knowledgeable about physiology. The point of science is finding out if something is actually true, despite of how it may feel to you personally and despite what big guys on roids tell you.
There are countless people who walk into the gym, lift very light weights for huge amounts of reps and they end their workout feeling the "burn", yet their gains are close to zero. So, unless we have scientific studies backing up that burn=gainz we have no reason to claim so.
Anyone else pee on the side of the toilet at night so you don't make any noise?
+Nick's Strength and Power Only at night? How else do you keep down the piss mist?
+Nick's Strength and Power I do that all the time. Why do people pee straight into the water.. You gotta minimize the splash bro..
To be really considerate you can put your foot in the toilet and pee down your leg, so as to make no noise at all...
Yes
k
even if it isn't gain, the soreness feels goooood :)
+Ash Mckinlay agreed:)
I feel shit today... bloody squats
+hugg567 yes! heaven. that's the best way to get high without getting high.
+Ash Mckinlay agreed
+Me weirdo
So this whole video could have been wrapped by 4 words. 'Not really, but maybe.' The science knowledge was nice though.
@P90Jungle Thank you, I was looking for a short answer.
Same
+Erin Denise The video is pretty short.
***** Hey, I watch most of it, I'm just saying it could have been a faster way to wrap up the title. It's a meaningless and harmless joke. Cheers.
P90Jungle or two words, "not necessarily"
My back is really sore right now. I hope I am not growing a hump...
LOL
+chocolateking1 it was a joke. how stupid are you honestly, did you dropout of high school or something
+Mythical Gravity are you dumb enough to not be able to detect the sarcasm?
ubbynubb he isent being sarcastic, if you go threw the comments hes commenting saying, screw that whimpy nerd, lift weights until you cant continue. its really anoying
lol uh oh, bouts get u a hunch back
Hmm very interesting. After indulging my curiosity on this topic I cannot help but ponder as to why their is hair follicles about my rectal cavity.
There are two types of hair, vellus hair, and terminal hair. The hair found in the armpits, top of your head, pubic area, and between your butt cheeks is terminal hair and it is there to reduce friction when you move.
+Sean Murphy That was fun to read.
how are you gonna try to sound sophisticated when you used the wrong "there" and didn't have that agree with your verb. should be "there are" not "their is."
+Michelle Lee mmmm you should learn that a grammar Nazi is not welcomed in the comments, soo go critike another sourse off reeding matereal. 😄😄😄😄
+Akeem Perez oh gawd that comment hurts so bad haha
you should do videos on bro science revolved around the gym, you will get lots of views probably
PROBABLY
+tanishq chaudhary Dont you mean, proBRObly?
...I'm sorry, I'll see myself out now
+LC Sharp Lmao
+chocolateking1 I bet you are puny yourself. Why else are you bashing out on people how "wrong he is", also your profile pic.
***** l o l look at him thinking he knows shit. He just saw one movie probably did little to no research on Shocking your Muscle
How come you get goose bumps from listening to music you like?
+Henk Buining `"nostalgia"?
It is from a rush of dopamine
+Henk Buining i dont. . .
I believe they already have a video on that- I know Hank has talked about it, it may have been on vlogbrothers or Dear Hank and John...
I have never gotten goose bumps from any music :(
*ALL of this is just ADVICE, do whatever the FUCK you wanna DO!*
Sorry, 'Advice' has been copyrighted. ¤
HoldOnToYourHats hahahahahaha u made my day lol
I own "hahahaha" please pay up
pnkflyd66 lol... well u own 4 "ha's", I used 6 "ha's", the lawsuit won't proceed, Sir. lol
Listen Rafi, don't make me react. Lol
But SciShow... WHY IS THERE HAIR AROUND MY ANUS?!?!?!?!
+Daryl Washington (Cap D) holy fuck, made my day ahahahahaha
+Daryl Washington (Cap D) Lmao we have a winner.
+Daryl Washington (Cap D) hahaha omg dude I'm dying haha lmao 😂😂
+Daryl Washington (Cap D) 😂😂😂😂😂
you had to
it's hard to believe in 2016 that there is not a definitive scientific answer for muscle soreness, and it's role in gaining muscle mass and strength. How is that possible.
+NATESOR It is probably not a heavily researched area of science. The only people that would be research muscle growth would be those related to sport athletes. I imagine...
+ONI OFFICER So you're saying all we need to do to find out is starting cutting people open to measure and test muscle and related tissues? I'll get started on that right away sir. .all in the name of psience of course!
+righteousfury1 I already have! :)
idk bro
this literaly added 0 to my understanding of sore muscles. Maybe show the methods and results of studies about this topic?
no one really knows man. the only thing everyone agrees on is if lifting a certain weight is hard. do it until it becomes easy. then go higher in the weights same with running.
+Akeem Perez very simply put but yes you are correct
+chris jones FUCK YEA BRO AAHHHBH I NEED A PUMP MAN SPOT ME BRO
+Akeem Perez DYEL
Stretch after working out. I mean, for like 10-20 minutes. It works and it's worth it, if you don't do it like an idiot and hurt yourself even worse.
this is very accurate. I started lifting a long time ago and the first few days I could really feel the burn, but after that it got much easier and their was less pain which allowed me to do more weight.
+Ben Gove And now.. You feel the Bern..
When I hit the gym, they get mad at me for punching holes in the wall.
Studies have shown that CT Fletcher will definitely make your muscles grow.
+MrBlaq He will command you to grow.
"No pain, no gain." "False, pain merely correlates with gain; it does not cause it."
+LimeGreenTeknii No where in the statement "no pain, no gain" does it imply causality. The statement "no light, no vision" is just as valid - you can't see if there is no light. But it's not light that allows you to see, it's your eyes. So "no pain, no gain" is not necessarily false.
+Dexi Antoniu not quite the 'good form pain equals good gains'. there is this thing called rahybdo-something (google will correct that if you search it), basically you overwork your muscles so much, they begin to die and release toxins into your blood which can kill. it used to be rare as hens teeth but it's far more prevalent since crossfit
True. How about, "No pain, no gain." "False. There can be gain without pain, and there can be pain without gain."
Then "no pain, no gain" still holds, just not causally. So the whole video is a waste of time.
+bocanutz The important thing is that more pain doesn't mean more gain necessarily, and if you've been repeating the same exercise and stopped feeling pain, that doesn't mean you aren't making any more gains. It's not a 1:1 correlation.
it's amazing how good our bodies are at adapting to the torture we put it through.
+Darius the Great And then it repairs itself. I almost lost the tip of my index finger to a table saw a couple years ago. It went through all of the bone and was just hanging on by some flesh. Yet I still have the tip of my finger and can use it pretty well even if the rotation ability and feeling are off. Pretty amazing stuff.
100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, 100 squats, and a 10 km run, every day!
calm down
saitama
yah! now ur a god.
+PraiseDivineMercy I do hope most people who're into that anime are not seriously doing this, as it won't get you much but more stamina/endurance and possibly a back injury. If you're actually motivated to work out kill the idea of the 100 sit-ups and replace it with an intense 6-8 minutes no rest abs workout and forget the 10 km running UNLESS you want to lose weight.
+Ballin Is there any workout you could recommend to become Saitama with more results and less injury?I've spent a little bit of time "researching" different exercise methods but everyone tends to dance around the point and not actually state what exercises are good for what muscles. Also I'm rather skinny and weigh about 58KG if that changes things.
Devanand Mallayya
Hes probaly bald from all that exercize too now
A few weeks ago you asked us to put forward more questions and I requested you did more stuff on exercise science & help dispel some myths. A couple weeks later and I see this come up! If it was because of my request, thank you!! If it wasn't, thank you still!
- A passionate honours student researching hamstring injury prevention & long time fan of the show (sci show space too!) from Australia
I'm really happy about seeing scishow more often!! I really do love me some science!
"Not really, but maybe"? What's the point of this video? You didn't say nothing.
+El Show De Carlos Durán didn't say anything*
He said, "not really, but maybe"
You even fucking quoted him
Thats a lot of their videos I've noticed
*Are Sore Muscles Growing?*
SciShow: "Maybe".
Beautiful answer, with enough to keep me looking. Thank you, Hank.
This is an interesting topic. While getting sorer doesn't necessary mean you're growing more muscles, it is important to note that avoiding adaptation, or more precisely - homeostasis, is key to building your physique. Most trained bodybuilders would advice an occasional change of your workout plan (ratio of reps and sets, sequence of the exercises, changing the exercises) in order to stress and shock your muscles. I remember Arnold has talked a lot about this and how important it is to not repeat the same exercises with the same sets and reps every time. This is not to be confused with progressive overload.
+Ballin I have heard of this also. I try to change my workouts every couple of weeks. Added benefit being that i don't get bored as well. :P
Perhaps there will one day be technology allowing muscles to grow without exercise.
By the you wont even need muscles because a machine will do everything for you. Couch warmer.
It's called steroids, however it works best in combination with exercise though
+Cody Sprigg exactly I live excercising makes me feel amazing but the whole diet thing is a train wreck for me
@@BS-jg7dy do u mean eating right is the part that rapes your wallet?
Storiaron Honestly, junk food cost more for me. I eat a bag of chips in like 2 seconds and candy at the speed of light.
this video came out in perfect timing. I just started back at the gym last week and when I did biceps & upper back my biceps didn't just feel sore like my triceps the day before, but I felt overwhelming pain. this explains a lot and by now my arms feel better and I couldn't explain it to my friends why going so hard hurt so dang bad the first day but isn't bad at all now
My personal motto for life regarding exercise etc: No pain, no pain.
SciShow,
Your the best. I use to work at a gym, and one time I felt extra sore after a particluar workout with a profesional trainer. I did not know what caused the "extra sorness," but it sure was a weird feeling LOL. Thank you for uploading this video. It does wonders for my future nursing-career.
Lets face it, this guy never EVER touched a dumbbell in his life.
What's your point?
He just has a naturally thin physique. Some people, no matter how much weight lifting they do, won't get much more "buff", it's just the way they are. Wow that comment was longer than intended.
+Deadly Shadow Im pretty sure if Hank wanted to be buff then he could totally get bigger. there been many times where a so called "skinny guy" has "skinny genetics" or is "naturally skinny" then gets buff and all of a sudden his genetics change? or now he's naturally buff? so more likely Hank just doesn't care about lifting. which is completely ok :)
+jr123 Lol yeah if he actually did go to the gym he wouldnt just be skinny forever I was underweight until I was 16 then went to the gym 4 days a week and gained 20 pounds in muscle
jr123 Yeah I getcha
I believe in sneaking up on fitness -- doing what doesn't hurt and then slowly increasing weight or reps. It seems to work for me but it would be nice to know if this is actually a good way to increase fitness over a long period of time.
I associate pain with doing something I haven't done for a very long time, like riding a horse.
That is fine! You will get stronger and healthier!
Tons of value
Great work guys
Thank you, just started a body weight work out last week. But I was wondering why I don't have the same soreness that I had from lifting weights. Was worried that it wasn't as effective as hitting the gym. I 💚 SciShow
when feeling sore does it matter if u shower with hot or cold water?
Well cold water causes your muscles to contract and restricts blood flow, which isn't super great but it also reduces swelling and can have a numbing effect. So warm showers are better, but if you've injured yourself or are extremely sore, then a lot of people recommend applying cold. In baseball we ice our arms and I have soccer friends who've taken ice baths.
Im not hitting the jim, but the john on a regular basis, does this also count?
rgis joke doesnt make sense because of grammar issues
Thank you for teaching so beautifully and NOT adding music omg no music.... thank you
Didn't really answer the question; what he answered was "Do muscles grow more because of the pain?"
What we needed in an answer was a brief rundown on how muscles grow, then an explanation as to how the regeneration of cracks doesn't affect this process any.
no pain no gain tho amiright
What about my love muscle?
thanks as always
Thank you
Was there even a question answered at all in the video
i dont understand why they made a video to show that they dont know something :/
Seems like most SciShow videos, honestly
More episodes on muscle physiology please! :D
get swole bro! Hahaha yeaahhhh. I love you guys.
definitely do more gym related videos!
So when you work out you really do get ripped, just in a different way then you would think.
No sources?
Jokes on you Hank! I’m finally completing my 2016 news years resolution to work out! 😅
I don't normally comment on these. really good video. great work
Here's a question: Why does water taste so disgusting when it's warm?
+Kezajaws I don't like warm water, either. It must be cold, or I don't drink it.
It does? I love warm water. Ever drink water in the shower?
+Danny Bangerz wtf is wrong with you lol
+Kezajaws I don't think it tastes disgusting, but it definitely has an altered flavor. I'd love to know why as well.
Why is this even a fucking question? Doesn't everything taste different warm? Warm soda is fucking gross. Warm orange juice is also gross. But on the reverse side, ever had cold black tea? It's disgusting. It just is.
Do you even lift?
Love this !!!!
That's why, "you need to shock the muscle".
We all see you doing that same tired routine like a champ even though you haven't made any gains for the past month.
Make america great again!!!
No.
*racist again
lol
+poyzan
#MakeDonaldDrumpfAgain
+RKTGX95 what a tool!
"biceps". There's no such word as "bicep".
+Xmus Jaxon Flaxon-Waxon III really? I had the understanding that there are two bicep muscles in each arm, therefore its biceps, just like we say pants and not pant. Perhaps I am mistaken though,
+Xmus Jaxon Flaxon-Waxon III
Pretty sure biceps is singular. But more and more people keep using bicep as if it is a word. So that may change someday.
+Monique Pihl Actually biceps is both singular and plural in English, although the correct Latin plural would be "bicepses"
2010ngojo yea. as someone who didn't learn Latin in school, my inclination was to always think 'my left arm has biceps -- a long bicep and a short bicep' rather than to appreciate even the individual heads are called 'biceps'.
This came out at the perfect time.
Wish I knew this last week, during the first week of crew. We were so sore we were crawling up stairs and taking elevators in school so we could make the bell only thirty seconds late.
What's the point of this video, nothing definitive was really said. This also would've been a lot more meaningful if the host looked like he had hit the gym once in his life.
so you're basing his knowledge on his looks, fuck off.
essentially we don't know how the fuck muscles grow, other than Progressive overload.
Artemis Ares No, I'm saying that for a science-based channel this video is very heavily based on speculation and hypothetical guesswork.
I'm also saying that he doesn't look like he works out. If you were in a situation where you were required to land a plane without any prior experience, would you listen to radio advice from a retired Air-Force pilot or the random guy who said he had watched the movie Top Gun 17 times?
+Crosby4hyg
He isn't a particle physicist either, yet he explains particle physics in many of his videos.
Neither is he a doctor, yet he has many videos explaining medical science. And similarly, he doesn't seem to workout, yet he explains muscle growth from a scientific perspective *using what we so far know*.
Are you saying that a bodybuilder would be able to give you a better answer because he *wouldn't* use speculation and hypothetical guesswork derived from his experience?
+Gagan Baath yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. A dedicated body builder keeps accurate track of their body weight, body fat percentage, and how much they can lift. Their life is basically a scientific experiment regarding muscle growth. Their answers regarding a correlation between muscle-soreness and muscle growth are a lot more meaningful than some scrawny guy who has read a few contradictory, non-conclusive scientific articles.
Crosby4hyg I completely disagree.
I am an Indian, I've eaten Indian food every single day of my life. But I could never explain specifically why Indians have such high rates of heart disease compared to other ethnicities. I can only speculate.
A scientist of any ethnicity can study the issue and publish papers, which this "scrawny" white guy, Hank, could study and review, and summarize to us.
And sometimes, there just isn't a definitive answer to things. It doesn't mean the person trying to answer the question is unfit to answer it. It just means there isn't enough information on the subject.
Hmm I don't think I'm going to take muscle growth advice from this guy
Science my brother, science...
+YYohan English, my brother, English.
Hmm then go and ask the steroid lifting bro a scientific question, lets see what he knows, dumb fuck.
What advice did he provide?
+Matt M Usually I'd think your a dumbass for thinking you have to be a jacked dude to understand the science behind muscles and working out but this video was pretty much the guy saying "MAYBE"
This left me with more questions than answers...
...go on!
omg I'm so sore I am laughing so hard every time I move an inch....
What I needed to motivate me to go to the gym today
More on building muscles please!!
Thanks!
I have a few topics that others may want to discuss, possibly as future topics the show may cover as well:
1. The layer of cells between the phospholipid bilayer and the muscle itself? They behave like stem cells, which band aid your controlled internal muscle injuries and then clot the outer layers, leaving new layers after recovery.
2. The difference between short and long term muscle memory? Case Study, Olympian Sprinters.
3. Where in the genetic code does the difference occur between short response and endurance response muscle memory?
4. BMI vs. Muscle (Density vs. Mass)
5. Adrenal Gland and Cortisol as an obstacle to recovery and progress as a result of intensive sessions.
6. The recovery process using all of the above to create one coherent thing.
I always imagined the damage to the muscle will be healed with "extra",
much like you get for broken bones, they break, but when they mend they are stronger with more thick connections in the bone structure.
It's also theorised to be caused by damages to connective tissue rather than the muscle fibres themselves.
Hey someone ask a question on patreon for me, what happens if you excercise a lot but don't eat healthy (or any protein) will your muscles break down?
That caption "get swole bro" made me laugh so hard I gained a six pack 0.o lol
More on this category please
The point at the end of the video is why it's good to change your workout every other week like having bench press one week and flyes the next
+Lee Sin Bench press once a week? Nah bro you gotta bench at least once per workout #EveryDayChestDay
not once a week just for a week
+Emmanuel A More like #LegDayEveryDay for a runner that's cross training..... but then again we need to do a bit of upper-body work to make sure our arms don't just "fall off".
Does vaping propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin (VG/PG) have any effect over time?
Thank you so much I was worried when my whole body started hurting after a full body workout
love the gym! 💪
I just ran a Mile at school, thanks for the info SciShow!
My New Year's Resolutions are still going strong!!!
I've gotten in at least 10,000 steps everyday (I work IT, so I consider that a major win for a desk job!)
And I've read at least a book a week (in fact, I'm in the mid-30s already)
good job
+pyrotheevilplatypus I've also fulfilled my new year's resolution! To start stealing unsuspecting babies!
DOMS!
DOMS EVERYWHERE!
LMFAO "GET SWOLE, BRO" 😂😂😂😂😂
What if you feel a bit sore only an hour after workout and it disappears quickly? I have never felt pain after I started going to the gym
I kinda had a weird and I guess a stupid question but theoretically if you were in a room that was say 500 degrees and sat near a fire that burned at a lower temperature would it feel cooler sitting next to it provided that you wouldn't die from how hot it was and could still sense the heat? Like how sitting near a block of ice feels cooler?
+Vincent Lopez That makes sense, considering cold things aren't so much cold, they just have less heat than whatever you're comparing them to. So yes, I would imagine that to be correct given that the person/entity in the room is sensitive enough to temperature differences to be able to tell the difference between very hot and very very very hot using only touch.
oi23origin
Well now I don't feel so crazy.
Can you please do an episode on protein? Idk if I'm eating enough and is there such a thing as protein deficiency? There's so much information out there but scishow is a source I really trust.
I meant eating protein. I eat fine. But I don't know if I'm eating enough protein.
But thanks anyways. 😊
you can absolutely be protein deficient. My brother was having very bad pains in his testicles and thought is was cancer or something. he went to the doctor and they said his protein was too low.
I think you would have to have a really bad diet to be protein deficient.
Lmao "get swole bro"
i wish this video was longer, and thus more informative.
Summary of episode: Are Sore Muscles Growing? Maybe! Thanks for watching!
+SciSHow But does muscle soreness mean that the growth period is longer? Like if I am sore, my muscles should grow longer to fix the added repairs, as compared to not working out as much to prevent soreness(makes sense IMO). If there's any benefit to working out harder and getting sore, then it should be to have to work out less times per week. Does anyone know? I feel there should be more coverage on this topic then there is.
Your gonna want that feeling after you start going to the gym, feels good.
So that explains the pain in my arm. Thanks Hank.
Thanks I needed this I just woke up from a yesterday work out sore pretty bad thanks
do muscle sores also come from lactic acid buildup during anaerobic respiration?
Question: Which burns more calories, doing same exercises more and more OR doing exercises that your body r not use to them?
Jokes on you, I've kept my New Year's Resolution from about 2 years ago: Never make another New Year's Resolution.
Wow, the timing for this video for me is scary. Literally just finished a workout after a day of my abdominals killing me.
love it.
Aaah! That explains that PAIN I'm feeling right now...
Yeah pretty much. New stimulus should envoke soreness/doms. You'll adapt to it hopefully.
Shock
Adaptation/resistance
Exhaustion
In an ideal world, if you're never sore sure you'll get fitter and might grow a bit but you could probably do with working a little harder. If you're too sore to do your next workout entirely or are worse session to session you're probably training too hard. Assuming you're adequately hydrated, not sleep deprived or stressed out your mind and eating sensiblly etc etc, oh or ill or something, or had a limb shot off...
I think newbies could probably get away with avoiding soreness the most then the more advanced you get soreness is going to become more of a thing when pushing boundaries.
Although there's nothing wrong with avoiding doms for general fitness if you just enjoy hanging out in a gym and playing around with weights and doing a little cardio. It's a healthy passtime 💪
Does consuming capsiacin spices desensitize nociceptors in the body, or just the mouth and gastro tract?
When you first start lifting the muscle soreness is the WORST! I remember the first 3 weeks my biceps were so sore I couldn't even straighten my arms, the soreness does get easier though, it will still happen but much more manageable