Tricked Into Grading His Own Lie Detector Test
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2024
- In this JCS Inspired true crime documentary we examine a late night murder which resulted in 4 different interrogations and a tricky polygraph test.
We break down the process behind how the polygraph is administered and walk you through the subjects psychological state, the multiple interrogations, the details of the crime, the credibility of the evidence, and the subsequent legal aftermath.
This is the Case of Sasha Samsudean, The 4 Interviews are of 2 women that witnessed the victim walking home, the victims ex boyfriends Taylor and Ben and the late night security guard Stephen Duxbury.
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It’s oddly therapeutic watching innocent people answer detective’s questions honestly
I agree!!!!!!
After watching 4 of these, today... ALL of whom were guilty, it was so refreshing seeing people NOT lying, or be gui* !
@@savedbyJESUS777 They all seemed like pretty nice people, too
It’s nice it worked out. Frankly, the fact that neither showed up on the security cameras in the building is probably why it worked out.
In general, if you are in a room facing 2 detectives the person most helped by saying only “lawyer” is the innocent person.
Totally agree, I'm usually very keen on knowing what happened, but the two men being interviewed gave me a feeling of relief. However, they seemed to really care about her and I can't help but wonder why they didn't even cry. Who knows how long of a time period it was between her death and their questioning, but I would be devastated.
@@bananawammabama everybody handles trauma differently. Some people get more emotional, some get less.
That's why it's so frustrating to hear narration like "an innocent person would probably be much more distraught" or similar.
I think it's a big problem that we largely only ever see interrogations of guilty parties. Because it makes it easy to forget that all of the same techniques are used to get a confession when the interviewee is innocent.
And when we see those techniques used on a guilty person, the lies, manipulation, and scare tactics seem more reasonable. But just imagine being called in for questioning about something you didn't do, and your every move and word and inflection and body position is being analyzed... And since these things are almost entirely subjective, you're largely at the mercy of the interrogator. If they think you're guilty, they're going to try literally everything in their power to coerce you into a confession.
Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever sit down with an interrogator (even if they say it's just an interview) without a lawyer. These guys don't care about getting all of the facts. Their job is to get a confession.
If you say something counter to their beliefs... They'll just keep asking again and again hoping for a different answer. But if you say anything that aligns with their beliefs, they will take it at face value, write it down as a fact, and move on.
Absolutely nothing good can come of trying to talk to the police in a murder investigation without a lawyer, regardless of your proximity to the crime.
When a detective says..... I don't think you're a bad person, I think you made a mistake.... Just go ahead and put the handcuffs on yourself cause you're getting a life sentence.
Very true .. You would never hear that with minor crimes, but life sentences crimes ..
Smh, you already know.
nah they are just phishing
Was going to like the comment, but then I saw you have an anti-American, inbred, righttrash, trumphumping, MAGAt profile pic. So you can eat shit and DIAF, traitor.
'You had a bad day and made a mistake' was said to a man who had killed 4 people on his bad day.
When I have a bad day, it's because my boss gave me too much work or my car breaks down.
If you're ever is a square room and two cops with ties are saying, "I know you're not a bad person, but.." you're most certainly a bad person.
We just wanna help you
@@janharmon6304 "You don't want folks thinking you're a monster?".
Ideally it never gets that far. If two men in ties at a police station are saying anything other than hello at the elevator bank, your only word spoken should be “lawyer.”
@@JodyOwen-we6oo true. Unfortunately criminality and iq go hand in hand. So those smart enough to get a lawyer, typically won't need one.
You're fucked lol
She must have been a wonderful person. Two ex's that speak highly of her. Also, so impressed with the two ladies who came to her rescue
@@Snimniad ?
@@Snimniad what?
@@Snimniad are you fucking insane?
@@Snimniad We love a bit of victim bashing
@@Snimniad Here comes the victim blamer
Them discussing his score in front of him like he wasn’t there was the funniest thing I’ve seen today
since the polygraph is a farcical joke that doesnt hold up as evidence in court, its main purpose is these sorts of mind tricks. I think this interaction is only funny if you view it as a real test.
@@auto1nfanticid3 I just mean that they were talking about him and acting like he wasn’t sitting right there. Made my day
@@gem1819Exactly
it was at that point, he knew..
😅g
C 4:39
As the security guard, wouldn't he know he'd be caught on camera?
I'm tellin ya ppl are super duper dumb lol
He’s clearly an idiot voluntarily taking polygraph
It looks like they had cameras only in the stairwells. Maybe he thought he could still get away with it. Still very stupid. Either way I'm glad he got what he deserved.
@@DjZephy time to put cameras by the front doors, or the hallways by the front doors, if they had cameras i doubt this wouldve happened
@@vicvega3614 then you get privacy issues. It is not easy, and the results may not worth it. People know there are speed detectors and still get speeding tickets.
I volunteered to take a lie detector test for a crime I was accused of but did not commit. They tried telling me since my breathing and activity was calm during the key questions it meant I was lying. I laughed at them and left. They found the real culprit later but I will NEVER take a test again
That's messed up! Glad you got out of that situation.
"If the lie detector isn't working, they must be trained to fool the detector"
As someone with pretty severe anxiety, lie detector tests sound like a nightmare. As I understand it, lie detector tests ping on changes in your vitals (like heart rate) to determine if you’re lying on certain questions, but what if the question itself just gives you terrible anxiety? Like if your spouse was found dead and they are trying to determine if you’re the killer. Wouldn’t the repetitive questions like “did you kill them” “do you know who killed them” “were they strangled?” etc. over and over have the potential to make you have an anxious or emotional response? Thus changing your vitals for those specific questions? Or like in your situation, where you didn’t have “enough” of an emotional response. It just feels like a trap and it’s weird to me that lie detector tests are even still used, regardless of whether or not they are admissible in court. We know they are unreliable, but innocent people feel obligated to agree to these tests because they fear refusing would look suspicious. I’d be having a panic attack the entire time. I really think they should be done away with. There are plenty of other ways to catch criminals that are actually reliable and admissible in court.
Do they show you the results as you're doing them do they ask you the questions and then give you the results
There's really no point in even taking a lie detector test. It doesn't prove whether you're lying conclusively and it's only used as an intimidation tactic. Skip the middle man and just tell me you think I did it.
It’s all over when the cops say that they don’t think you’re a bad person 😂
True 😂
She didn’t make a mistake when went to the wrong floor. He creeped her out and she was trying to shake him. This footage makes me angry.
I have always thought the same thing... Her body language looks so uncomfortable and it makes me feel sick to my stomach knowing she was trying to be cool when she was clearly alarmed and no one else was around or able to help .,... 😭
Yeah and that may be why she was entering the wrong code at first too. She didn't want to let him in.
If this is true, and I can believe it as I've had to pretend I'm visiting a friend when going to my own house before, then I'd bet she's had interactions with him before that gave her a bad feeling about him. The way she's trying to speed walk up those stairs despite stumbling around minutes earlier suggests adrenaline has already kicked in
She failed
@Joseph Marzullo ooo aren't you edgy! Such an edgy boi!
There were so many people going out of their way to make sure she was OK and got home safely... all except for the one person whose job that was 😢 I feel sad for the ex who sent the "you alive?" msg... and the two girls who didn't even know her but tried to help. I'm sure they all dealt with feelings of guilt even though they did everything right. Sad 😢
Very sad and scary isn't it! To think we have probably all been as vulnerable as this! I wonder if we should be learning to spot the CCTV and then point them out to anyone who is creeping us! Might deter them
its like a scene from final festination where you tried so hard but you still died at the end 😢
Agreed. I had a friend abducted as a kid. We had walked home and my house was first on our route. We made plans for the next day as I turned to go inside to bed. My friend never made it and to this day I get emotional thinking about how it could have been different, how I should have done this or that.
It was like someone was trying to save her and make these people help.
@@seangildersleeve1270 it's easy to say this or that could have saved her and in many ways it's true. But the big fact is she came into the radar of a savage and a sadist and no person could predict that animal would have a desire to hurt her.
But, it hurts the heart to know she died despite decent people tried their best. What a world.
Heartbreaking that those girls went out of their way to help the victim only for her to be murdered by a guy that was hired to protect her.
Yep. The only person who can protect you is yourself. Police and security guards are just people like any others, some good some bad.
And cameras don't protect, they document.
His DNA was all over the place. That defense attorney is nuts. He was just mad that he didn't have a defense. RIP Sasha 😢
Yeah it's upsetting to see an attorney be so combative and hostile to try to win a case at all costs. It's too extreme.
They will lose their license if they do not provide the service they’re obligated to. It’s the clients decision to go through with this defense. I’m sure the lawyer offered alternatives, but imagine being an attorney and your clients adamant about a case like he was. He could just choose to not take the case; then another lawyer would have to, and they’d have ti argue the same thing. It’s sucks but it’s necessary
@@TheLfamily24 That's not quite accurate.
It's up to the lawyer to choose trial tactics. The defendant can't choose what defense his team presents. If that were the case, there'd be no point even having a lawyer in the first place.
The defendant has control over what their plea is, and they can choose not to testify; their lawyer can't force them to make (or not make) a plea, and the lawyer can't make their client testify if they choose not to. But other than that, trial strategy is purely the responsibility of the lawyer. The client might have some ideas and can certainly contribute, but the specific defense strategy is the lawyer's job.
A lawyer who just parrots the defense strategy of the client is not being a lawyer.
he didn't care. Open and shut case, dude just basically had to show up for a paycheck.
@@seraphinaaizen6278 Not quite accurate? Yes it is, you’re just wrong, the defendant can definitely choose what tactics their lawyer will do if they don’t like the way the lawyers going, wanna know why? Because they’re payed money, and the lawyer *wants* that money and pissing off your defendant is a good way to get fired. Do you remember the Johnny Depp V Amber Turd trial? Do you think that Amber’s lawyers *wanted* that “defend” her like that? Do you think they wanted to look completely inept and incompetent?
Of course not, but it’s a celebrity they’re defending that’s a guaranteed fat check right there. You’d be an idiot to risk losing that, your reputation might take a hit sure but again a fat check is a fat check.
I really feel like she didn’t forget her code or what floor the car was on. She’s so cautious of how close he is it really looks like she was trying to lose him and shake him off
Yeah once they pressed him him said “she kept running around” it seemed like she was trying to shake him was drunk but RAN up those stairs
Her defenses were
slowed by her condition, but her 'instincts' kicked in ,
and if she had Practiced Calling 911 in practicing these Very Scenarios... She Could have Gotten Help there to insert themselves between her
and the Evil that had her in it's sights. But she was practiced in being worried more for The other person , than for herself, and so she didn't 'Risk iT', & prob. didn't even think of dialing 911 until it was All crashing iN On Her.
Now He shld get the Death Penalty [by inmate].!
as a woman I agree, you sort of just start doing anything you can think of especially while under the influence
Oh look. a woman FEELS something.
Nobody cares about what you feel.
@@jmh2105 Why should anyone insert themselves between a strong, independent woman and a killer?
She can defend herself.
More people need to be like these two ladies. They even Waited for her to get in her building and rightfully assumed she was safe. How would anyone have thought that the building security was a monster. I think these 2 ladies are awesome people. RIP Sasha. This guy is disgusting.
Why did you assume they are females? maybe they identify themselves as John Malkovich
Beyond disgusting.
Those two women in this video give me hope at least, they made sure this woman was as safe as they could.
There was a creepy security guard at Dudley NHS when I worked there. I used to work late, and had to stop as he would hang around me trying to flirt. He was sacked for stealing a bottle of Christmas wine from reception. I could see him on one of these true crime vids, I just hope nobody got hurt by him but doubt it. These people are actually PAID to protect, it is disgusting, poor girl 😞
@@kittykat8177He is a creepy guy because he liked you and tried to flirt with you = he is unattractive and poor.. #womenlogic
@@kittykat8177i work in a security control room and a *lot* of guards are creeps.
don’t trust their rent-a-cop uniforms or air of authority.
they’re just as shady and untrustworthy as real cops.
Those two Ex’s seemed like really cool dudes. Supportive and friendly even after the break up.
Hit em up 😂
@@tuabuela0833 I feel like this is the wrong place to be making a joke.
Ain't no time to hate.
feel so bad for her friends and the strangers that went out of their way to take care of her.
They were still having sex. Normal.
I’ve taken a lie detector test twice. Once at Career Day in 9th grade and another at Career Day in 11th grade. Both times after I legitimately gave my first name and age the man giving the test for irritated at me thinking I was lying to him. I’d say a lie detector test is just a step above a crystal ball as far as reliability.
hence why it's not admissible in court
Yea, theyre not allowed in court for a reason. "Lie detectors" just measure signs of anxiety- heart rate, sweat, etc. Logic being that if you show signs of anxiety when you answer, then youre lying. Which is ridiculous.
@@signoguns8501 not just because normal people can be extremely nervous, but also because people who are used to being in police stations, dealing with cops, getting questioned (who would be used to that? Career criminals) could be totally cool... and psychopaths, ice cold.
Yeah...thats why if authorities ever ask for one, lawyer up immediately and keep your mouth shut.
I’ve never taken one, because I’m not a fuckin retard.
It's unfortunate. The two young women were doing everything right, trying to protect her and see her home because she was drunk. They couldn't have known the danger was inside her building complex.
Taking a polygraph is an absolute gamble, guilty or not. Would never agree to taking one.
They're only leverage for the prosecutor at the end of the day. Never take a polygraph. Never talk to the cops without a lawyer.
Yep. Polygraphs are pseudoscientific nonsense. It's scary that so many govt agencies rely on them in the hiring process. Imagine all the bad people that "passed" the fake test and got hired, and then imagine all the good people that "failed" the fake test and got screened out and barred from the job. .
Gross that people still actually use them.
yeah they are only a way to help them get a conviction. Failing them gives them a lot, passing it gives you nothing and they can interpret the results however they want.
It's really just a psychological torture device used to extract confessions.
We are human being and sometimes we feel that helping police to eliminate us, would lead to focus on other suspects. But I totally agree, they just need to build their case whether you're truthful or not, they will use it against you.
@@ihateyoutubecomments8100 That's why it's so important to refuse though. When the polygraph is mentioned, the only answer is "no and I want legal representation".
You have a right to have a lawyer with you in the room, and asking for a lawyer and/or exercising your rights does not indicate your guilt.
That's just what the officers are hoping you'll feel so you won't do it.
Mannnn, that polygraph administrator was trolling him so hard 😅 It's beautiful.
😂😂😂😂
He was like it was easy job, but let me have fun with this dude .. till other detectives came in and kicked him out: we do have real work to do here!
When he stared directly into the camera to tip of the detectives, I liked him even more.
The last text message "Ben" that Sasha sent to Ben was probably her trying to reach him for help. 😥
I think it was probably when she heard someone at the door. Maybe she heard something, hoped it was him, I'm sure.
@@OneBadAssMoMo that's an odd thing to be so sure of
@@Farce13 the times line up, the time frame for when the security dude was trying to override her door code, fits with the time she msgd Ben.
@@OneBadAssMoMo you're speculating the reason and saying you're sure. How are you so sure
@@Farce13 🙄 gtfoh with your trolling bs.....
I always imagine myself in a situation where I am innocent, but fail a lie detector test. My body would be reacting so sporadic on the questions I know are important.
Which is exactly why you should never agree to a polygraph.
From an evidentially standpoint, they're worthless. They're psudoscientific bunk, and the police pretty much just make the results say whatever they want. They're an interrogating tool used to apply pressure to a suspect, not to actually establish anything factual.
You shouldn't take a polygraph test for the same reason you should speak to police without a lawyer present. It can NEVER help you. Because even if you pass, police can just roll it up and throw it away, and try to find some other way to attack you.
Those are proven to be complete bs and inadmissible in court. But they scare these dummies into believing it's viable evidence
That's what I was thinking. I'd like to watch video of an unrelated crime and do lie detector questions on that. I can imagine failing that even though I wasn't involved.
These 2 very young females (girls) almost saved her life.. they did what they could do...
Lot of love and respect for these two girls 💞
Yeah I thought that was really cool of them. But now they probably feel horrible that they almost saved her. much respect to them both.
Why did you put girls in brackets?
@@coolinmac she is probably transphobic
@@princequestly2218 yes I agree.
I think that they might be traumatized because of it....
Very sad ... but they have done really well
How eerie it is to think they potentially saved her from that car full of guys on the street only to walk right in to another horrific situation in one of the main places everyone deserves to feel safe. Home. This case has always infuriated me and always will.
If it's 0.003% chance he is being truthful, that translates to 99.997% chance he is lying. Not 99.7 %.
Math is cool. 😊
That bugged me! Glad someone else noticed this.
Good catch!
@@mustardnbiscuits5338 Wrong! It is 100% - 0.003%. Not 100% - 0.3% as you say, in order to correct it. That is NOT the formula, which you would know, if you were an acual Math Nerd, like myself. Why would you ever get the percentaage and minus it from 100% after multiplying it by 100. That literally makes no sense. You made this formula up to sound smart, and it had the exact opposite effect as it is very stupid. You are incorrect. 0.003% that it is truthful = 99.997%. that it is false. Learn Maths and don't correct people when you do not know yourself, that just makes you look dumb.
Thank You, I was about to do the same but looked for it first to see if anyone else already corrected it. Good work.
5:55 Sasha didn't make a mistake leading Stephen to the wrong floor, girls often will deliberately not go home to the right address if escorted by a stranger so that the guy won't know exactly where she truly lives. Unfortunately I believe Stephen was insistent and persistent in following her to home to her door.
"in we gooooo"
Yeah, sounds very scared.
Stop white knighting for her, she won't sleep with you, she's dead.
@@HaggisMuncher-69-420 Found the incel
Incel
@@HaggisMuncher-69-420 were you born horrible or is this a choice
@@singularity3724 lmfao spot on
I’m guessing, that he saw an insanely intoxicated girl and thought he’d be able to easily take advantage of her in the dark of her place, then just get away. He prolly thought worse case scenario it’s her word against mine and I can just say she was hammered and came on to me while I was trying to help her out.
But she probably ended up fighting him off so hard and causing such a ruckus that he felt he had to strangle her. Then he frantically tried to clean up by bleaching things and throwing stuff away.
What a tragedy. Someone who’s hired and trusted with protecting you, ends up breaking in and murdering you while you’re vulnerable in the place you feel safest.
These two young women helped her to get home..thinking she was safely at home...God bless them both ❤
Ask your imaginary god why he allows so many terrible things to happen.
Piss poor performance by those brats
I honestly thought the opening to this video was an advert haha
seeing the family in court broke me. my best friend was murdered in 2020 and sitting in the courtroom waiting to hear her murderers sentences was the hardest thing ive had to do.
F
I’m not sure I would call matching fingerprints in multiple locations throughout the apartment, his DNA, as well as a matching shoe print “mainly circumstantial evidence”, but what do I know??!!! 🤷♀️
The thing that saved the friends with benefits guy (second boy interrogated) is that CC video. Otherwise it’s likely that kid would have left enough evidence to get police focused on him just by their relationship.
And a girl who parties with that kind of intense dedication to binge drinking and multiple partners is a terrible circumstance fir every male associated with her if something tragically happens.
@@JodyOwen-we6oo nope. Even if his dna and FP where there, the security man's was there as well. The ex BF had an alibi, which would be confirmed by other people. On the other hand, even without the CC, the security guy was in the building very close to the time.of death. That, plus the dna and FP would rule out the BF and still point to the security guy. And then, he also has the scratches on the forearm, and probably some of his scratched off skin under the victim's nails.
Yeah, that is circumstantial evidence.
Most people don't know what circumstantial evidence is. They think it means "evidence that's weak". It doesn't. It just means evidence that doesn't directly point to the facts at issue. It requires an inference to connect it to the act.
For example, direct evidence would be if we had actual footage of him murdering the victim.
Circumstantial evidence would be, as noted in the video, we have evidence that places his in the property at the time the murder happened. It doesn't directly prove "yes, he certainly did it", but if we can show evidence he was in the apartment at the time, and his DNA is all over the girl, then it infers that he's guilty of the act.
@@beckyblueish there’s no evidence to suggest Judy is a pick me. Unless you believe any person showing any sympathy towards the opposite sex’s experience is a pick me, in which case I’d hope everyone is a pick me.
@@seraphinaaizen6278thank you I was going to point that out but you already did
Those 2 women that tried and did help her get home are ladies I would hope to be around if I was ever that intoxicated. They were great. Unfortunately evil was waiting in side her locked apt complex. What a vile creature.
I, like probably many others have already seen this case covered. You did a great job with your coverage. True crime buffs end up seeing cases covered over and over by various channels and at times they become no longer compelling. Not the case here. Breathing new life into a case is no small feat. Hats off to you for doing such a great job here!
Well said, Frank. My thoughts exactly.
I agree 💯
I almost clicked off when I realized it was about Sasha because I've seen videos about her before, but you made it interesting all over again! Fantastic job
What a brilliant examination! This security guard never stood a chance......they even had him become his own witness against himself.
I hope he doesn't have a chance in prison, i hope inmates chase him around like he did to her and they eventually put him down
Almost passed on this one as i have seen the case a number of times elsewhere but this was so worth it, the narration, the subtitles, the way it has been comprehensively put together, just an all round fantastic presentation. Great to see a channel like this grow in quality as it grows in subscribers, also really enjoyed watching this creator chatting with Daves Lemonade on Scribe Lights podcast recently, i fear losing you guys to the mainstream lol
Some of the best work out there.
I almost didn't watch it bc I've seen this story, also. But then I read your comment and decided to watch it and you were absolutely right about it was worth watching. Thx!
I watch every video regardless. Fortunately, they're typically ones I haven't heard of yet.
ditto
The fact he pointed out and read the questions he could see he failed... Brilliant examination work!
Except polygraphs have been debunked many times. 😂
And they're not admissible in court. But most perps don't know that and will at least take an Alford plea.
@@Mark-sn6kh I don't understand how someone can think you can tell if someone is telling the truth or lying by asking 10 questions. If you are asked "Is your name X", and "Were you born at Y". And then suddenly they asked "Did you kill someone"? That is bound to get a response from almost everyone, regardless of whether you are guilty or not. From the shock value alone, never mind being nervous that you are a suspect. Polygraphs are not admissable in court for a reason. They would do it to break the suspects willpower, if they are ignorant enough to think that the Polygraph means they are caught, they might just admit to the murder. Otherwise it's just useless and the way this video presented it like it was meaningful evidence of sort just adds on to the ignorance of these people.
@@MrTVx99
Thats not how polygraphs work. Yes, they are unreliable. Yes, it gets false results all the time. But there is more to the process than "10 questions" which consists of your name, your age an than suprising you with a murder accusation.
@@karenamyx2205 okay you can tell me how polygraph tests work because it’s the equivalent of doing a Ouija board and asking the spirits haunting a house to give them the answer. Everyone will react differently to a question. Trying to find a baseline and trying to extrapolate when they are lying is ridiculous. Being able to tell when someone is lying is absolutely impossible. They can give signs they are lying, but those very same signs can also mean they are nervous or unsure, not necessarily lying. Not to mention, that because everyone will react differently, it’s pretty subjective to read the results and determine if they are lying.
It seems as if she was afraid to go to her apartment while he was with her. He's not leaving her alone to go into her apartment. He was with her way too long!
Prayers to the victim's loved ones. The pain of such a tragic loss never goes away.
What is wrong with all these young girls hanging around bars late at night by tmeselves and their "friends" (guys) not hanging with them? Back in the 70s you would NEVER see college age girls by themselves at bars. 75% of the time with dates/boyfriends and 25 % with at least two other girls. NEVER alone.
@@steveludwig4200 maybe because they shouldn't have too????? It isn't the nineteen seventies anymore. There is cctv everywhere and generally people can feel safer because of that
Even though this was an old case that has been covered by many different channels already, you did do a very good job filling in all the gaps and details.
So true. I never mind a redo if it’s done well or better.
@@DrummerJacob yeah, what's up with so many channels doing the same stories?!! While I do appreciate the creator's analysis, I'd love to see something different.
I love the technique of showing him the charts and the clarity of that graph even though the interrogation was filmed on a potato
yes, great trick
It's funny how they pretend to be experts but then he asks a random person to spot the area where he spiked - anyone can pretend to be an expert.
@boogie bean “filmed on a potato” bahaha!
Filmed on a potato got me
Imagine telling someone your resting heart rate is 140 and being serious about it. Instead of being like "sorry this is overwhelming"
Mine is 120, never less than 100 so I'm screwed lol
@@Sugarplum33 I am also a rabbit. ECG tests are also wild for me
@@Sugarplum33 you seriously need to see a doctor if you're still alive
@@corneliusthecrowtamer1937 still here and alive. On blood pressure meds that slow it down a little now but I've had it all my life
It scares me to think, as a younger woman, how many times I was in very vulnerable situations 😮
Get a gun, train with it and conceal carry. Stand on level ground.
@@davisjames8484I have the high ground now Anakin
@@davisjames8484can't do that in every country, in the UK we can't have a gun, taser or a knife over two inches, most of the 'safety options' in America just aren't applicable here. I ended up getting a big mean looking dog (Malinois X lurcher, he's a sweetie but very protective) and now I only leave the house with him at night.
Yuuup I literally should have died so many times 😬😬
You also drink so much that you can't take care of yourself?😊
Really appreciate your work and effort in your videos. Most of the true crime recently is just “creators” playing a three hour interrogation with no analysis, explanations, no nothing and it gotten very sad and watered down. You do a much better job than any of the other bigger channel. Stay safe and stay awake
I really like the 3 hour videos, he should do both. Long unedited and a short one
@@unknown-x-1777 I enjoy longer videos as well from creators that are putting in the work and doing analysis. Too many of the big channels just play the interrogations and they make zero effort to elaborate on the suspects demeanor or answers to the questions. I feel the true crime category is water down with too many creators who just repeat what has been said multiple times. I guess I should lower my expectations
Hi Jack, excellent comment! We just had this same convo on Dave’s Lemonade for the same reason. I have unsubbed to several channels who are suddenly just uploading HOURS of booo-shit with no commentary at all. I love STAYAWAKE, and so happy he isn’t being lazy and greedy like everyone else!
By the way… what are your thoughts on the JCS comeback? Something seems a little off with it. I can’t quite put a finger on why, though
@@BucketHeadianHagg They're using some kind of AI or voice generation for the voiceover which is probably why it seems off.
Walks her to the apartment. Leaves 2h later 🤔. Think I gotta suspect.
"I've been doing this for a long time. I don't think you're a bad person." - words you DON'T want to hear from investigator.
I can only imagine what her ex Ben was thinking after finding out she was killed.. probably reached out to him for help and he didn’t even know.. thats so haunting to live with 😔
The fact that he’s a security guard is crazy as hell smh man I have a daughter n seeing this really got me feeling a way
Yep, seen a ton on this case before, including his entire polygraph. But when STAYAWAKE covers it, of course I'm gonna watch! There's just something incredibly appealing about the way you present cases. Another job well done ✅
Damn my heart rate was the same as his in his polygraph test when I was listening to the verdict! When I hear “it’s all circumstantial evidence” I’m thinking what?!? DNA and video recording of the two of them isn’t hard core evidence!!!!
Well most things that we’d consider “hardcore evidence” are actually legally considered “circumstantial”. The word doesn’t mean “easily dismissed” as most people seem to think. Evidence that’s not legally considered circumstantial is eyewitness testimony which is oftentimes very unreliable even when the witness has the best of intentions. But if you couldn’t convict off circumstantial evidence alone, no serial killer would be in prison. Here the circumstantial evidence was overwhelming, which does matter, in the sense that the degree of doubt it would take to dismiss the circumstantial evidence would not be reasonable.
@@blazaybla22 interesting! In that case I’m glad it’s still evidence haha!!
When the security guard said he saw her at zero two hundred in the morning, I knew he was a douchebag.
Yeah me too lool
He was in the military, it's common to still tell time that why. Especialy with his job being security which usually uses military time.
Of course he's an embarrassment to the uniform.
Because he references at 24-hour clock he’s a douchebag?
@@Lord_Bibulous’m a veteran and the only people who still use military time in the civilian world are vet bro douche bags who did nothing
Isn't it "O' two hundred"? Just honestly curious, I've known a few military persons and I dont remember ever hearing zero. Idk if they were wrong or it just doesn't really matter? Like it can be either or etc.
Great video! I really appreciated your analysis, it brought some new light to a case I'd seen a few other channels cover in less detail. Adding in the news coverage and trial footage really helped. Even though I already knew what happened to the murderer, I found myself holding my breath when the judge was getting ready to read the verdict.
Wow, this is such a well organized and edited video. This channel has really become outstanding at respectfully and analytically presenting cases involving interesting and well documented psychology, and the way you presented this case really made it stand out how so many good and caring people there were who had recently interacted with her, but it only takes one sick person to still cause so much pain in so many people.
What is wrong with all these young girls hanging around bars late at night by tmeselves and their "friends" (guys) not hanging with them? Back in the 70s you would NEVER see college age girls by themselves at bars. 75% of the time with dates/boyfriends and 25 % with at least two other girls. NEVER alone.
You hands down covered this case the best I've seen. Thank you for your content.
The way the judge preceeded the verdict had me worried.
The jury did their jobs. Well done.
Seriously! I thought it was gonna be not guilty. Who were all the Indian people crying? The suspect is white so I assume they aren’t his family, but I guess those were the people rooting for him and who the judge was telling not to freak out.
@@lucidlocomotive2014 they could've been the victims family
this is so scary. never know what anyone will do if they feel they have the opportunity
Bruh Ben will live a long time before he gets over the last text he sent his life long friend who died so tragically and defenselessly..
I wish that the world had more people like these two young ladies in it, there parents should be very proud of them
most people in this world are like them in that regard. Don't get disillusioned by watching true crime into thinking the average person is closer to the criminals seen here
I knew he was guilty the minute the detectives started questioning him. He said “yup” when they asked if he recognized Sasha after saying they were investigating a homicide. Any innocent persons reaction would be shock or horror as this is a person they just interacted with and are now being told that they were murdered. There was no surprise in his reaction whatsoever 🤦🏽♀️
He already would have known she was dead though, since it happened in the apartment building he worked at. Word of the incident would have spread very fast. What made it obvious to me was the way he acted, overall. Like all guilty people, he acted nonchalant and happy-go-lucky, as if to say "How could I possibly be guilty of something horrible if I'm acting so happy and carefree right now?!"
To be fair, the ex also kinda acted the same way. Things are easy to twist to our viewpoint from hindsight. I easily could have said the ex was calloused and pretending to be somber,
"It was obvious!"
Unless I missed something, I believe these interviews took place after some time had passed. Even the victim's ex-boyfriends weren't very emotional when being questioned. You also have to remember the jerkoff who killed her did work that night. Highly likely he'd been asked about it already by his employer.
You know some people can just be really cold and unemotional. That's not really evidence of anything.
The polygraph guy earned a promotion on this day I think.
I’ve been watching crime videos like this one for years.
The lie detector specialist is a badass. NEVER seen that before 👏🏻 👏🏻
The specialist certainly was playing with him, wasn’t he?😂 Very badass.
lie detector specialist is like an animal psychic, only it takes less training and its less reliable.
I am absolutely addicted to these videos. You're doing a great job OP
Wow. Being a JCS Criminal Psychology fan I am skeptical of most other channels in that genre because, well, JCS is the benchmark for this content BUT, this is good stuff.
Funny,informative and short enough my adhd doesn’t make me wanna swipe up like I’m on TikTok. I think that deserve a follow.
I don’t think she “made a mistake” going to the wrong floor. Even though she was drunk, I think she was trying to keep him from knowing exactly which apt was hers. And she didn’t want to know her code. This guy is SOOO DISGUSTING! I just wish her friends would have stayed with her and helped her get home safely. I think those 2 girls were so kind and ALMOST saved her life.
Lesson to Learn: Well #1. Just DON’T drink or do drugs, don’t allow yourself the opportunity to not be in your most aware state. Drinking may be fun and helps some to “loosen up and have some fun”, but more often then not in cases like Sasha’s….We see how some take advantage of the ones in a vulnerable state.
#2. If girls, young OR OLDER…..WHATEVER AGE…If you are going to go out, and IF you are going to be doing some drinking or “anything else”, Use the same safety rule as “The designated driver”. Have 1 person, or group, be the ones who make 1000% sure that everyone gets home, and NOT ONLY SAFE TO THEIR DOOR, or in Sasha’s case…MAKE SURE, I MEAN IT….MAKE SURE THAT the other person gets into their home. And maybe even call them like 10-15 minutes later to check on them. (And going further with that line, and this is horrible but the following happens. When you call that person back, you are able to make sure there was no one “in the house” / or apt. Waiting to see if they are REALLY SAFE.
I know this is long and wordy. But I have NO DOUBT THAT IF SOME OF THESE MEASURES had been set in place…Our beautiful Sasha girl would be with us today. P.S. pls DO NOT THINK I am sayin that ANYONE failed Sasha. The ONLY ONE that did anything wrong that night was the MURDERER. THE CREEPY, UGLY KILLER!
people drink. deal with it.
the key is to take precautions to reduce harm.
go out - and go home - with a friend, for example. leaving bars alone while very drunk is always risky, but it can easily be made safe if you have people around to look out for you.
alcohol tends to cause people to make bad choices, but the fault here is on the predatory dude. enjoy your life without running scared of scummy freaks like this perpetrator.
Yeah don't live your life and roll up tight in bubble wrap and tinfoil hat. It would be a complete tragedy for one of the *8 BILLION* people on Earth to stop utilizing oxygen.
If you have to go that far out of the norm just to survive, you're being irresponsible.
Yeah the narrator messed up when he said she made a mistake probably. She seems to have been trying to get away from him and doesn’t want him having her code
Very well put together sir. Great editing! Looking forward to watching your channel grow.
most educational and professional crime channel on youtube.
thank you so much for your dedicated time and for summing up what is truly important
Even though Sasha was drunk, you could tell she was getting nervous with that security guard trailing her so closely for so long. She tried a few ways to get away from him. Going outside, then back in, out again, then saying she remembered her code suddenly and then really going quickly trying to lose him after that. Any woman who has ever been trailed like that recognises her actions as ones to get away from him. She must have been terrified knowing he was the security guard and wondering if he was gonna be able to get to her no matter what. Poor girl. She was right.
damn, if only she had a phone to like call the police on or something.
@@mikeespinoza5733if only she wasn't too drunk to take care of herself
Right and why tf didn’t they swab the security guard FIRST ??? He was literally the last person seen with her, the ex bfs weren’t even on camera. Doesn’t make any fucking sense. And then they do a lie detector test which is inadmissible in court before a swab test?? These detectives are fucking idiots. I knew from the first few mins the security guard would be the one. Doesn’t take a genius to figure that. It was literally on camera AND he lied about when he left. Plus he just LOOKS creepy.
this video is much better than the other one on here because you also have all the other interviews. well presented thank you!
Fantastic work again, Stay Awake! I have seen this case like many have others have but this one really broke it down, bit by bit, and the narration is the best.
Way better than RTC's self-indulgent interjections :) "The suspect moved their foot slightly while answering the question. People often move their foot while answering a questing untruthfully. I can totally tell they're guilty"
@@DjZephy I like them but this is funny! 😂
Rip to sasha. I watched from start to finish. Thank you for sharing sashas story. May her soul rest
Idk how you manage it, but you take a case I have seen before and feel like I know (like this one) and present it with such a comprehensive approach that it feels like I didn’t really know anything before.
“Princess Sticky Foot” lol; that was so humanising and endearing. Makes her seem like so much more than a vulnerable drunk woman preyed upon by a sexual predator. And it’s so sad that there were all these lovely people making sure she was safe as she ran the gauntlet of danger of a drunk woman getting safely home, but the killer had the position of trust to pursue her behind her own door.
I’m such a fan of your work, always waiting for the next vid!!
Really really really appreciate those two young women who saw Sasha and the state she was in, instinctively knew like most women do, that she was in danger. They did every single thing right by helping her and had no reason to believe the danger was inside her building. I also despise that the friends she was with that night, just let her go alone. Never ever split up with your friends on a night out. Never let your drunk friend go off alone, ever.
i'd like to agree but when a man says stuff like this its victim blaming.
21:17 Wait, the police skipped over the fact the security guard took out the two garbage bags and didn’t think it was suspicious?
American police are awful
They did. They bring it up during the lie detector test actually, watch the whole lie detector interview. It's creepy af, he talks about himself ALOT.
Great job on this!! I had never heard this case before. The jury voted properly based on the evidence.
It’s always heartening to hear innocent people interviewed... So good to be reminded that there are truly nice people out there.
It’s crazy how good speech synthesizers have gotten. I didn’t realize these videos are read by a robot until I heard this video. The way it says Sasha gives it away.
Definitely the best version of this iv watched. Thanks☘️👌
“Sure I’ll take a lie detector test. I can’t wait to incriminate myself and end up in prison for the rest of my life!” - This guy
There is no such thing as a Lie-Detector.
You cannot pass or fail a polygraph test, they are pseudoscience nonsense.
@@bobthetitanic they don't need to be. A polygraph let's investigators know if they are on the right track, or not.
@@puddingtame3483 They are nonsense, and pseudoscience.
They prove nothing, which is why they are not admissible in court. The only thing they do is gaslight the person taking it to incriminate themselves by the operator.
as if that would've saved him
He wasnt convincted off a lie detector test. He was convicted off evidence, which wasn't hard because he definitely did it.
This video was so well done, I could watch 10 of these in a row
When he asked after the first polygraph “everything look good though?” …. like bro c’mon now
Awesome video, best one yet!!!!!!! Thank you @STAYAWAKE
Say it with me people; "I don't consent to a polygraph, I'm not saying another word until my attorney gets here."
I’d rather the vermin who commit crimes like this are caught actually.
@@bonusflaps1749 until it's you, falsely accused to quickly close a case.
@@hands-to-work1601 I doubt that will ever happen.
@@bonusflaps1749 Eh, it can. Just use the tip if you didnt do it
@@bonusflaps1749 every person that has ever happened to thought the same thing, though
That polygraph detective really knows his job. Please keep him😅, it was savage to let Stephen pick his own answers and not the detective pointing out and picking what the results shows for him, Damn! Stephen, u dumb af!😂
The way she looks over her shoulder going up the stairs 😢
So sick of hearing "sometimes good people do bad things"! We all do stupid shit in our lives, but good people never rape or murder. PERIOD!
Its a tactic to get him to confess, I'm sure someone will chime in with the name of the tactic. There are many. He doesn't really believe Steven is a good guy
Lol it’s the Reid technique they don’t actually mean it
Hellz yea, now I know I'll enjoy my lil break from easter'in!!! Y'all are awesome, keep up the great work!!!
When people rise from the dead they call them zombies. When "God" does it, they make a holiday out of it
@@NKdidit.24 bahahahahahahaha fuckin right🤷♀️ zombies is people's to lol nah in my opinion anything that's died an then decides to" rise" again needs to be handled with nothing less than all the fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🤣🤣🤣🤷♀️ jus my opinion
@@NKdidit.24 You meant God's son "Jesus"
how awful. i’ve heard of this case and researched it before but this was super in depth and well made. nice job
The reason why polygraphs are not admissable in most courts is because it is based on junk science. Even the original developer stated as such. It is used as an interrogation tool-but, the questions are EXPLICITLY designed to get the response the questioners want.
When you are asked a "control" question-a question that you are VERY familiar with-what color is the sky, who is the president, whats your name-you will ALWAYS get a low response. When you are asked a RELEVANT, POINTED question-"do you have knowledge of X, were you at such and such a place, at such and such a time"-these will almost ALWAYS elicit an elevated response. Why? Because the specific questions are something we actually have to THINK about. Something where, most of us, will mentally place ourselves in a certain location, at a certain time. And that will almost ALWAYS elicit an elevated galvanic response. Whether we are truthful, or not, is utterly irrelevant. It doesnt matter what the question is-its that it is NOT a normal, routine question. For instance: one can ask "did you eat yesterday". The answer will be yes. Because, almost all of us DID eat yesterday. You dont have to think about it. However, when the question gets SPECIFIC: "did you eat eggs yesterday at about 9 am?"-one has to think, did I eat eggs yesterday? What time was it? EVEN IF you DID eat eggs yesterday, at 9-you still mentally PUT yourself there. And, if you did NOT eat eggs yesterday at 9, but, rather, at 8, or, you ate a muffin at 9, and not eggs-or didnt eat breakfast AT ALL-ALL those galvanic responses will be EXACTLY THE SAME. Elevated(or, in their case, "deceitful". Its not the specificity of the questions-its the difference between the two TYPES of questions, that elicits the response.
And THAT is why it is junk science.
Matt Orchard did an awesome minidoc on it.....you should check it out, it's interesting.
@@OneBadAssMoMo thanks. I will check it out. For the record-I am not saying he is guilty, or innocent, based on the polygraph. Just pointing out its failure to detect anything but, well, respiration, pulse, and skin moisture
@@oldsoldier181 oh me too!!! I firmly believe in it's ability to pick up my sweat factor & my fear factor but, I doubt it's ability to point to a killer everytime. FYI....Steven Roxbury is guilty af. 😔
That's why going over the test area failing was a brilliant move because he is being recorded.
I highly doubt a question about whether you ate eggs yesterday at 9 would illicit the same response.. i mean i agree its junk science because the reaction could come from many different things than guilt. But still, i dont think its quiet that simple.
I lived in Orlando at this time and don't remember this. Very well done. You have a new subscriber.
You are in ur own world in Orlando
😂
I can’t believe people actually take a lie detector test. I would refuse that even if I was innocent.
I mean
It's not admissible in court
It's not an evidence
Oh? I'd refuse it if I was guilty too, each their own, I suppose
I think when it’s an ex it’s different. If my ex got murdered I’d take one even if it put me at risk if it meant it helped them focus on finding the actual killer.
Lmao, “sometimes good people, do bad things”. If you ever hear a detective say that to you, you know you’re F*CKED! 🤣
I've always heard it's best to ask for a lawyer if questioned by the police as a suspect. However in this case, her friends who were suspects answered questions openly, which helped the police focus on the actual murderer.
Yes and it would be great if it could work this way every time but it's always a risk to talk to the police in these situations.
You have to remember all the video they had of her movements and her building too, and they weren't on any of it. Without that footage and only text and their word to go on, they would've tried to charge Ben for sure and they would probably would have called them liars saying they knew they were there and can prove it.... You know all the typical BS
asking for a lawyer will get you charged and booked. They aren't going to give you a lawyer for free, its for your defense, genius. You think they just call up the public defender store and send one over 30 minutes or its free? You get arrested on the weekend or after 5 pm, your'e sitting, so maybe just don't lie to cops and try and swing your legal dick around in front of people who actually know how the fucking job works. You go in tell the truth and leave. How fucking hard is it?
I’m glad I was able to see more of this case . He thought he was going to beat it.
If they found his DNA in her apartment, how is it not obvious?
There was a lot of dna in her apartment. She had been with a good amount of men.
It is obvious but they always gather as much evidence as they can since in court you can defeat any claim with a good argument. Lots of evidence cannot be defeated with even the best made up story. You don't really know what the made up story is going to be in the courtroom, so you play it safe and gather all the evidence.
When I saw that his story didn't match the camera footage I immediately knew he was the bad guy but lying the get out of that claim in court would be too easy. Also officers get promoted for their work so they do it right in these big cases.
He’s a security guard who works there, dna can get places pretty easily. They’d need more than just that because if they chance it, he can get away with it and not be able to be tried again
@@lukasthedark8478it’s specifically stated she never had men over lmao, get bent
"..0.003% chance that the result was produced by a truthful person"
"....damn.."
😂😂😂😂😂😂
LMFOAOOO I SAID NOW THAT WAS 100% TRUTHFUL😅😂😂😂
This is So Heartbreaking, and Frightening! Sasha was trying to get away! I can't imagine her Terror! Prayers for Sasha, and her Family 🥀🥀🥀🥀💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
Best coverage of this case tbh.
A woman alone at night in a large apartment complex who comes across as security guard should be in a position where she is safer and feel safer. The person there that is to help protect the tenants being the threat is one of the reasons why women don't trust men.
I saw this same case on the channel see no evil but this video and the Polygraph examination blew my mind.
She had better chances staying outside the building.
"That's because she thought she was being funny by running all over the place" ......everyone else with a brain :"riiiiiiight..."