shout out to the worker who had the morals, character, integrity, empathy, and sympathy to notify the family when this occurred. It doesnt matter how often you handle caskets and bodies, you treat them with dignity- as if it was your own grave site. Let it slide and they think they get a pass.
My Heart goes out to the Family it's the Worst nightmare to even have to go back down memory lane with a Family Love One ,let Alone To have the find our that your visiting a non Love one grave ,MY God How Many More Family Are Being Mistreated Unhuman Care Of A Family Love One .This is Horrific And Should Be Handled In the most Sensitive Way With The most Respect ,Shame Shame They Wrote Speak To The Family .They Will Have To Use there Disrespectful Voice to the Gudge .God Is Watching Over Your Father ,Blessings And Prayers To This Lovely Family ,How Many More And How Much Pain Can One Handled Through This Non Professional Cementary .Shame Shame ,Don't Let it Happened To There Love One.What Goes Around Comes Back Double Shame.
As someone who has worked many years in the UK funeral industry I can say for certain that I totally agree with everything that you have said in your comment on here. I alway's alway's told everyone that worked with me that you only get one chance of doing this the right way with respect and dignity, there's No do-overs when laying a loved one to rest.
@@simonr6793 its even worse though. He was already buried. I can't believe this is happening in America. This particular area is running rampant with misconduct especially in the handling of the deceased. It is bizarre to think that these things go on anywhere in the world.
"Let the dead bury their own dead" - Jesus This literally means let the spiritually dead worry about the physically dead that they're attached to. "Your dead fathers not there lady it's just a pile of Bones".😂
I used to work as a caretaker in a cemetery and we accidentally broke open a crypt while digging an adjacent grave. It was an honest mistake by the backhoe operator. To correct the mistake, the cemetery contacted the sheriff's department, the county coroner, and the family about the incident. We then dug up the damage crypt, respectfully removed the casket, placed it in a new crypt, and reburied it. The family was not present (they opted not to be), but the county coroner did send an assistant as a witness to the exhumation and re-burial. This cemetery is located very near a large lake and I will say that the casket was compromised. It was split open from the wood warping as water seeped into the crypt, so standard crypts only give so much protection from the elements and do deteriorate (more expensive crypts will last longer, but still will eventually breakdown). With that said, the cemetery should have contacted the family, had them present at the exhumation which would have given them the opportunity to replace the casket if it was so deteriorated, and then re-bury the remains in a new crypt. The actions here show that they were more worried about saving money than doing the right thing. Sad and inexcusable.
Excellent explanation! I'm not taking sides. But doing it your way, given what you are telling us means this cemetery probably would have to do that for dozens or hundreds of sites, right?
@@Alvin-1138 No, just when an incident occurs which results in damaging an already interred occupant's grave in such a way that exposes the corpse. I am from Wisconsin and the procedure we followed is dictated by state and county law. It is to ensure that the breach was not criminal, like in the case of grave robbery or something more sinister.
Exactly. At the very least, they should have disposed of the garbage and old materials properly instead of throwing them on top of the poor guy and treating him like garbage. It's super disrespectful. I'm so glad someone found it in their heart to notify the family. I really question what else this cemetery might be doing that they shouldn't. This probably isn't the 1st time they've done this either sadly. Smh...shame on someone.
Agent j. Respect to you. As for what you wrote totally spot on with everything you did. As someone who has worked many years in the UK funeral industry I know that what you said is the correct way to do thing, we all know accidents do happen and when water whether river/lake or even low-level underground water is involved these things do unfortunately happen more often than not. But Sir hats off to you for handling your own situation in the right professional manner.
"Let the dead bury their own dead" - Jesus This literally means let the spiritually dead worry about the physically dead that they're attached to. "Your dead fathers not there lady it's just a pile of Bones".😂
Clearly concrete & debris inside a casket is not from normal wear & tear! i have never seen or been inside a casket nor do i want to but how does concrete get inside a casket?
Exactly. The casket was damaged from the GARBAGE THEY PLACED ON TOP OF HIM. I am truly upset for this family. Unacceptable and our largest cemetery in our area where I planned to be laid to rest. Am rethinking my options now.
@@susanritchie4921 nowadays the coffins don't go into bare ground. You have to place a concrete vault in the burial hole then place the casket in the vault and seal it with a concrete lid so it won't float back up if the ground gets saturated with water like during a flood. The concrete may be from the old vault that was damaged from digging the new grave next to the father's.
I wanna give a shout out to the Person Responsible For Telling the Absolute Truth, and doing the Right, And Honorable Thing by sending the Pictures to the family, and making them aware of Whats Happened to their Loved Ones... You Did the Right Thing 👏 👍💯 🇺🇸 Thank You 🇺🇸
Id rather not know that they were disrespectful of my loved ones grave.My loved one is only the body in the grave.They left the body and moved on.This would just make me upset at their death all over again.Regrief id call it.
The coffin itself naturally deteriorated due to seepage, so I don't blame them for that. But there was no excuse for them to throw the pieces of the old vault in there. The cemetery workers were just being lazy and didn't want to properly dispose of it.
I worked in a cemetery for years. People asked at times to be buried in a family plot that was already full. (12) bodies in the plot. They said, “there can’t be anything left after all these years.” In old graves with no vaults there is only some wood, metal and a few bones left. I’ve dug graves next to an old grave in a family plot. You can see a faint line about a 1/2 thick of color. That’s all that’s left of the body and coffin after all those years. Basically nothing, the ground sinks and we added more dirt to the surface to keep it level. The vaults, are so the ground doesn’t sink when the coffin collapses. Although a new grave will sink for 3 years as it settles. I’ve seen vaults that have broken open under ground. I’ve smelt the body juices and embalming fluid that will run out of a cracked vault when we dug in the grave next to it. I’ve been in double deep graves with the sides of vaults on both sides of me and on each end. N,S,E,W around you. I guarantee the vault broke open from ground water seeping in and the casket deteriorated. They picked up the pieces and put them in a new vault. Although we never put any deteriorated coffins in new vaults. I’ve dug bodies up to move them at the behest of family. I’ve moved whole vaults and just bodies. I’ve seen skulls, bones, bits of clothing and metal. I used to think being buried was some what respectful and clean. It’s not. I am going to be cremated. I don’t want to be under groundwater while my coffin deteriorates. I remember a girl whose mother was buried in the winter. A winter grave will sink a few feet by spring. She swore someone desecrated her mother’s grave. She wouldn’t listen to anything. She thought she was an expert on burying people all of a sudden.
I had a friend, God rest his soul, who worked in a grave yard back in the 80s. He told me similar stories. Being a graveyard worker is no fun. There’s turnover and I don’t just mean employment.🤦🏻♂️
A grave should not sink ‘a few feet’ over the winter if properly filled. Maybe a hole you just haphazardly plopped some dirt on top of to fill, but the hole is only 5 feet deep total, and the vault with lid is usually about 3 feet tall.There are cemeteries out there that sink their graves with water to speed up the process of Mother Nature, and others that use tamping equipment to repack the soil, and even lay the sod back down over top when the weather permits.
Thats illegal to bury one on top another in the same grave unless the first one was buried like 10ft down, atleast where I live unless it a side by side companion plot or if you are talking urns there can be several. Had some ahole grave diggers try that with my grandma, instead of burying her next to her husband in the empty plot they went a row back and two or three over. They had it dug and were going to put her ontop of her mother in law! My mother and I showed up just in time. They had to fill it in and redig were they were supposed to. In the meantime we had to tell them to park the hearse in the shade bc they had it parked in the mid july sun! Didnt notice until after the funeral but they had taken up all or granite cornerstones and had buried them in the grave too!
My bf mother died & was buried in Jamaica in 2010. A few years back they contacted the cemetery about a tombstone. But we were told that they don't know what plot is hers. Apparently they cemented over the plot number so now we don't know which one is hers. One would think you would count over from the last number that is legible....sorry to hear about this family. I can imagine how devastating this must be.
As a Jamaican, I can confirm that this happens with some frequency. it happened with my uncle's grave. It is partly because the cemetery workers mix concrete on the graves of others. You see, when a person is buried, the custom is mix and cover the grave right there at the graveside as part of the proceedings. When the cement cures and dries, what is left is just a flat cemented slab covering the entire grave. A year or so after, a tomb is supposed to be placed on the grave. The problem is that many wait years before they finish the grave and tombstone with granite etc. and so when others are buried, sometimes the idiotic workers, mix the cement on top of an old grave which destroys any markings on the grave.
As other comments have stated --the maintenance crew probably broke this vault and quickly covered it up by throwing all the pieces into an 'extra' one the cemetary had on-site.... then mangement tried to cover up the 'hurry-up' job by lying. Telling the truth and apologizing for the maintenance mistake AT THE TIME IT HAPPENED would've cost this cemetary a lot less then the lawsuit will.
Funeral Homes and Cemetery’s have had their issues in the past. One cemetery was flooded, coffin’s floated away and left further away from the cemetery. It wasn’t discovered until someone noticed a coffin where it wasn’t supposed to be.
My Uncle was a monk in a very strict order. He was buried on a board wrapped in linen. His grave was dug somewhere on the property of the Monastery and his burial place is unmarked and will be forgotten over time. I sometimes wonder at the humanity and grace of this submission to eternity. 'Do not stand at my grave and weep I am not there I do not sleep I am a thousand winds that blow....'
That's beautiful Owen. So many get tied up by their worth based on religion (Christians especially) which the funeral business loves to exploit. In my family, we do cremations and spread ashes in beautiful places we enjoyed while we lived. There's record of every death, no headstone is necessary to show you once lived on this earth. Digital cemeteries exist now too, everyone is accounted for. I won't leave anything behind for my family to have to tend. Life is for the living. 🌻☀
@@Mandy7D7 as a Christian myself I would say Christians are less obsessed with what happens to there bodies after death. I plan on cremation and scattering of ashes with no headstone. I had some Catholic family that insisted on embalming, body viewing, burial and headstones so maybe a Catholic thing but the majority of Christians I know are not concerned with this temporary vessel our soul is contained in.
@@nancid5265 Underground, the body relatively soon turns to dirt. Sure, some can last thousands of years, but most are little more than dirt within fifty or a hundred years. So, those old bodies aren't going to be resurrected. The main thing to focus on is the fact you have everlasting life in another form. The body is of the Earth and will soon return to it. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
@@nancid5265 Do you think there are any bodies from 2,000 years ago that were buried? Plants did not exist before the sun, moon and stars. The bible is a work of fiction.
@@the_gilded_age_phoenix8717there you are wrong. Our bodies will be resurrected but the Lord does not the earthly body for the resurrection. We will be resurrected from the dust of the earth if our physical bodies have returned to the earth. That’s what returning to the earth means….not that our bodies are put in the earth but that they break down and become one with the earth. And from that very earth our glorified bodies will arise when the Lord comes again, At least that’s what will happen to believes. Unbelievers will rose to resurrection of judgment…eternal death.
@@omfug8593 wow, that was an intellectual response coming from someone who likely has a 9th grade education. Dems and Republicans are both the same kind of evil, only difference being that usually the Republicans are the less educated of the two. ☺️
Inspect and/or look up ratings of cemeteries prior to purchasing tombs, Graves and cremation disposition niches. Most are reputable but small older/private cemeteries may not have the required staffing for updating processes and maintenance requirements regarding cemetery concerns.
Did you know... that in most cases if a grave is at least 100 years old, they can legally dig them back up, vault, casket with remains in it and tear down headstone. They then demolish everything and dispose of everything! Like dig a big hole somewhere else, put as many as they need to in it and mass bury them. Like trash. This usually happens if the Cemetery is getting full and they need more plots. The evacuated graves are then refilled with dirt and the plot can be resold. I found this very disturbing to say the least. Ck your cemetery to see what the oldest dates are. It might surprise you...@kingpickle3712
It's very irresponsible & heartless to do this to a deceased person's gravesite. At least the person who got evidence had a heart. I hope the family can get their justice.
Oh hell no. Just unbelievable. This was not “maintenance”. The family conducted themselves incredibly well. I can imagine that a lot of us would not have been able to be so gracious.
This was absolutely heartbreaking to hear the daughter talk about her father's right to a dignified burial was a lot to take in my heart goes out to this family and I hope everything gets straightened out soon! ... RIP 🌹❤️🌹
@@Eddie2425 Thanks so much. I still miss him but at least i stopped crying all the time. I do miss him tho. I feel for people who have to deal with stuff like this. I'd freak out..
I.ve worked in cemetery maintenance for 15 years doing burials like this . Someone in that cemetery screwed up . This is totally unacceptable for the crew that did this and for the cemetery themselves for allowing this to happen . My sincere apologies to the family for having to deal with this from a cemetery and their shoddy maintenance crew . SMH
My mom, sister, and great niece are buried side by side at this cemetary. I live in NC, and return home each year, and of course I pay a visit to them each summer. This has always been a very well run and beautiful cemetary. My heart breaks for this daughter.
I'm from Va., live in N.C. and the cemetery where my parents are buried made the news a few years ago because the vault trucks wrecked a few graves during a rainy period. I understand your feelings about your family's graves.
Thank you to the person that took those photos and sent them to the family. You are a unknown hero. Not every hero saves babies from burning buildings or is a soldier. But hero's come in many ways and many different situations.
Thankfully we do not put stock in dead remains. If you believe in an afterlife, (not saying people have to believe that), you're not concerned about dead flesh as you know the person's spirit and soul are with Christ.
@@thewordrules I understand this but it's about respecting the dead. The term "proper burial" means something and the financial cost of said burial is very expensive as I'm sure you already know.
Caskets can become compromised for any number of reasons, even in a crypt, and even because of bad choices on the cemetery owners part. Why is it actually worth that money? It's not, but it can be because people pay it and American funerals are an industry. Grandma deserves the luxury silk casket lining, right?
@@tashacherry1480 Its expensive because of preying on sentimentality and ignorance of chemcial, ecological processes/entropy. Name any other situation where you would bury something in the ground and expect it to 'survive' in any kind of good condition. There is absolutely nothing positive that is gonna come from digging up remains from 30 years ago. Under ANY circumstances. "if they wouldn't have gotten those photos, they wouldn't have known..."
1986......A funeral director's son was my best friend at school. My friend started to became reclusive and withdrawn and I asked him what was wrong, but he looked sad and didn't want to talk about it. One morning he didn't come to school.... disappeared. About a month later there was a article in a local newspaper......a very foul smell came from a garage of a tenant that suddenly moved out of a townhouse complex and the janitor was called to open the garage to investigate. He found several caskets ⚰ and two had decomposing human remains. All from funerals that took place but the bodies never buried. My thoughts..... my friend had to pay for his father's sins. His mom left long ago and he never had any stability in his life. Disappeared from my life because of his father. I pray that he is happy, that his life turned out okay. I do not know. Even though it was long ago it stil bothers me. One has only so many close friends in your lifetime...
These vaults cost the family in times of grief. They should've been done right. Lawsuit for a new one. The coffin and remains are ruined. Make them pay.
@@sheliabattle1129 My mother had a debilitating terminal disease, and according to her, she purchased an inclusive burial contract for all the items needed at the time of her death. This supposedly included casket, memorial service, burial, and the burial plot directly beside her to be used for the first death of her children. She paid for these services on this contract for years, had it paid off way before her death, and informed us children her burial would be completely paid for at her death and we should not incur any other financial burdens to be paid by any of us. Two of us (one being the executrix of momma's will), went to the funeral home to start mothers burial.. We had momma's will and her burial contract showing all paid off, and all we needed to do was contact them. They proceeded to try get us to "upgrade" her casket, add additional flowers, provide more music, more chairs, add a larger marble headstone that could include to person to be buried next to her at a later date, for a much higher cost. We declined all as we told them, our mother had already planned her funeral, and we were going to stay with her final wishes. Then, came the "extra price" for the concrete vault required by Texas law, stating all coffins must be enclosed into a concrete vault. This was many years ago, and the price then was $800, paid before said burial. The executrix asked why this wasn't covered by her contract, and they stated, "(the concrete vault), probable wasn't required by the state at the time she bought the contract". Watch out for "fine print", "requirements by your home state", and, if these extra things are covered by their contract. The time when your loved one dies is extremely stressful, and there ae some employed by the funeral home to take advantage of the family's desires to "get the best for momma/daddy/son/daughter". Think realistically. When a parent or child purchases a burial contract, have someone go with them to ensure all requirements are addressed, and all desires are included in the contract, and if not , why not. Funerals are BIG BUSINESS! Don't get caught by the short hairs! Thank you for reading!
I took my Grandmother's remains to be inturned in my grandfather's burial vault with him . And during the ceremony there were crews removing caskets from the ground and putting them on a flatbed truck. I couldn't understand what the heck they were doing. And then after the ceremony we were all leaving when a forklift came down the path and the casket it was carrying fell apart spilling the remains of a long deceased woman onto the path . It was a horrible thing to have happen but even more so in front of 75-80 people who just attended a service for a loved one. Worse yet was it wasn't the only casket to crumble and the remains of it's occupant to hit the path. I know this because right after seeing the woman's remains fall out onto the path I was crossing a 2nd path on my way to my car when I noticed a lower jaw complete with teeth laying next to the curb. I went to the cemetery office and notified them .
What a horrific experience for you to see all that! It shouldn't happen in America. Sounds like the cemetery from hell. ..like it couldn't be real ... except in a horror movie. But seeing is believing so I am sorry you had to see all that. ✝️😔
If people REALLY knew what goes on in funeral homes and cemeteries they'd spin out of control. Spending thousands of dollars to bury a loved one and then trusting these strangers with your loved one's remains is insane. It'll never be exposed because the industry is too large and corrupt and the consequences cannot even be imagined. It's sick.
As a director i feel i need to say that the grand majority of us are NOT like that. My heart is crying for this family and that man, and neither myself or anyone i would associate with would dream of giving any less then the upmost care and respect to everyone that walk into my funeral home. Living or deceased. However it must be said that yeah, there is unfortunately alot of unscrupulous people in this business aswell and its no secret that it has historically been corrupt. If you feel like the funeral home isnt showing the respect deserved then please do take your loved somewhere else. It dosnt matter if the funeral home is or is not doing what theyre supposed to, if you are not at peace with them dont let it go because you will spend the rest of your life questioning that feeling. BUT also i would ask you give us a chance to prove that we arent all like that and to not generalize us that way too terribly much. Protecting your loved ones will always come first, as they should, but people dont need that added level of stress while dealing with us of wondering how the funeral home is abusing their loved one or taking advantage of them. Grief is hard enough, last thing i want is a family to feel they have to be on guard around me when my job is to make this easier for them to make it through. Again, im not trying to argue that you shouldnt be aware of bad actors. Only that most of us only want to help. Lord knows we dont do it for our health, and honestly knowing that every single day i go into work will be a fresh memory of someones sorrow, or another nightmare I'll have of a child, doesnt exactly get me jumping out of bed. Knowing that their families need a guide does.
When my Dad was Buried at a National Veterans Cemetery I stayed around after the Grave Side Service and was Shocked when they Dumped a bunch of broken headstones on top of his Casket and when I asked why they said that it is common practice at all Cemeteries to fill the holes with left over Cemetery Debris.
@TBI-Firefighter-451 Unbelievable! MY Dad is at the Military National Cemetery in Houston. Had I known this then, I would have camped out at his grave until they buried him to prevent such! This knowledge will give me nightmares.
Read up about disgusting people molesting corpses. There's at least two that used 100 or more. Nasty. Not to mention Arthur Rathburn. The Body Broker. This is NOTHING compared to chopping them up and selling the components to medical schools/hospitals/ and universities. All of whom are right in on it. Look up Tri State. I'll take this over Tri state ANY day.
Concrete crypts are required to prevent ground subsidence. Concrete is porous so water seeps in and out causing the metal casket to rust and wooden ones to rot away. Mausoleums and above ground vaults preserve the remains for a much longer period with less maintenance.
One of the many reasons folks no longer go for the expensive traditional casket and vault. Now they just cremate the remains and scatter them for a fraction of the cost and no more desecration issues.
And respectfully, SOME things you'll want done. See Ask a Mortician. You'll see. You don't need embalming, tho and several other things. You can do a viewing with dry ice in your home, too. Just like the old days.
Miscommunication???? How do you misunderstand burying garbage (the compromised urn that out of the"goodness of his heart didn't want to pay for disposal of) in the same place of your loved one! Nope, smh, should've called the family and just told them what was up. I'm sure they would've gladly paid to correct the issue.
In an IDEAL WORLD.. we're talking about perhaps an illegal paid 10 bucks to dig the holes and couldn't read English..so many businesses hire people who are desperate to earn 10 or 20 bucks!
@@daviddillardjohnson1095 it may not matter to you, but surely you have enough emotional intelligence to know that your feelings about a subject aren't the only ones that matter in the world.
This is horrific. My sympathy goes out to the family involved. I am pretty certain this wasn't a one off incident which must be terribly distressing for anybody who has a loved one buried there.
This is so common, you have no idea what cemeteries do, most graves leak, and the coffins are filled with water and other things, the coffins rust, and rot and the vaults crack, and no one will ever know, cremation is the best answer to all of this!
My mom and dad pre-planned their funeral and at that time the church was building a mausoleum and they had a reasonable price for plots, or vaults as they called the above-ground place of rest, so they went with it. So far so good. But sadly I have seen videos here on YT where funeral homes had been abandoned and remains are still inside to be buried, or placed in an abandoned mausoleum. Does anybody know if there is a law made since that if remains are found to be buried, there has to be a proper burial for those remains? It just is disrespectful to the dead and makes you wonder if another funeral home is permitted to sign on to the job if the people who run the first funeral home take off, leaving remains behind. I remember hearing too about incomplete or excessive embalming fluid being used certain places and it made the body unfit for a viewing. It makes you wonder how some undertakers can do that. Some people have also found coffins and mausoleum drawers leaking after an improper embalming and as the remains break down, there is a leak. All I can say is take your time and check out funeral homes well to make sure you feel secure about the place that does the preparation and care of your loved one. It's best to pre-plan if you can. My parents were far from rich, but they were able to pay off their final resting spot so that it didn't come to chaos when a loved one passed.
@@tuxitalk1World No, no pre-planning. Don't pay up-front. After that, your money is GONE. If the owners die or leave it, good luck getting your money back. They'll claim you owe more $$$, too, after the fact. Green burial.
How do you do this to someone!? Not even looking at the fact that this family probably paid a lot of money to have their loved ones final resting place in this cemetery, but even if it were a pauper's grave you shouldn't do this! I'm absolutely glad we had our Mom cremated because this is literally my fear come to life!
Cremation is absolutely the best option in terms of cost and after life harm. It's so unfortunate people cannot be trusted to do what's right, not even after death.
I worked in my teens for a cemetery and water getting into a coffin’s vault is very very common. Additionally if we damaged a coffin vault it was SOP to replace the coffin vault and place everything that was recovered from the original coffin vault. Additionally even if a coffin vault remains sealed everything inside it deteriorates over time because the interior of the vault has moisture in it from the deceased, the coffin itself etc. That all said before the coffin vault was replaced a letter would be sent to the on file next of kin to ask if they or there representative would like to be present and would they like their loved one(s) be placed in a new coffin. The management of this cemetery did encourage the direct next of kin not to attend because doing so always seemed to cause long ago emotions to surface again
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@@waynebfr8953 as someone who is not religious nor believes in a God, Imma just say you really need to learn to respect those who do. Even if there is or isn't a God, for some its a symbol of hope that death isn't the end, and that people will see their loved ones again. It's a comfort. Sit back down, kid.
No, they replaced the broken vault with a new one and filled the new vault with the broken casket and remains of the deceased. Seems like something I wouldn’t have wanted to deal with anyway.
It seems like someone wanted to avoid paying to dispose of trash. Someone who had access to digging equipment, and permission of the groundskeeper. I would be tearing up more graves. This is not a one off.
God bless that employee who took pictures and said this is so wrong, the family needs to know. The scary thing how many other graves have been messed with 🤔
Absolutely. The infuriating part is they persist in denying ANY wrongdoing(while trying to make themselves out to be altruistic martyrs). My Mom died when I was 23 and the hospice nurse called a funeral home themoment she died and they showed up fast and wiskdd away my Mom's body. When the guy shook my hand and said, "I'm sorry for your loss...", I had a flash of him reciting this line in front of his mirror. My Mom's little sister fired them promptly and had Mom transferred out of their care. God bless.
@@buck4yergold498 This is interesting. The nurse didn't ask the family to notify their funeral home, she took it upon herself to call one of her choosing?
@@fifty9forty3 Yes. My aunt thought that the hospice nurse may have gotten a kickback for getting that funeral home out so fast to take the body. Most people may just go along with it in that grieving state. But my aunt is the corporate type(head of Dayton Hudson auditing dept in 80's doing all audits of the Target stores across the country). She smelled a rat 🐀... Im so glad she fired them and had Mom moved.
No Really I didn’t know that your so smart but wait a minute didn’t the funeral home put the man on the cheap casket they caved in so easily there’s people been buried for years and this don’t happen so shhhhh
@@diamondzrain1216 Yes the funeral home places the body in a casket and transports it to the cemetery but typically the cemetery will provide the vault. Regardless, somehow the vault was compromised whether from degradation or abuse by the cemetery workers which caused the damage to the casket. So again, do not blame the funeral home.
@@diamondzrain1216 The family or the person themselves purchased a “cheap casket”. It’s not the funeral homes fault. They did what they were told. Plus nothing lasts forever.
@@diamondzrain1216 I'm sorry to say but the person you're talking to about this is totally correct in what there telling you. Regardless of how much the coffin cost the vault is the responsibility of the cemetery and for your comment about it being the only one I'd be amazed if it was the only one.
Many people cremate. Honestly, this probably seems insensitive to you. But once someone has passed, they are no longer here. People are way too sensitive nowadays. Cremation not only saves space in the world, but it’s what should be done. Imagine 100yrs from now with a population exponentially growing and all this space taken up by buried boxes of bones….
@John Connor You're ridiculous! You seem a little off your rocker. She has a "right" to make a comment. She didn't say what you "should" do. She merely commented on the other option MANY ppl choose instead of burial. It wasn't a dictation and cremation is NOT by force! " Cremation is the doorway to hell" Oh really? So burial must be the doorway to heaven. I sure hope you weren't banking on that Homer! The person u were and the way you lived your life here on this earth would determine that, not what is done with your body after death. Ridiculous!
@@op3488 You should reread what I said in both comments. You’ll realize I respect both, when most do not. The dead don’t care where they are buried. The dead don’t need a 15k casket. Stop thinking you understand death. You clearly do not if you don’t understand this.
@@op3488 How about respect other ppls opinions. You do not have to agree. There is nothing wrong with choosing to be cremated if that is your choice! There is nothing disrepectful about that.
Are you serious?! Look at historical cemeteries, not to mention archeological sites that are dug up and/or moved each year. Capitalism at it's finest... Cemeteries sell out to other companies which in turn sell out to different companies. Bottomline, cremation seems to be the best way to make sure one's remains are placed where one wishes them to be, without the chance of them being dug up at a later date.
How horrifying! I’m so glad that this story made it to the news. The grief and anger that the daughter expressed made me want to go hug her. 🥺 I would have been outraged and upset too.
@@b0rd3n correct. Nothing wrong was done. That grave had deteriorated obviously and the few remains were reburied it’s quite common. How is that disrespectful? People can be such self righteous idiots lol
It's better to cremate, My husband and daughter still live with me even though they have passed away My 8 week old grandson lives with his parents. I was terrified that something like this would happen to them if they were buried. My heart bleeds for the family, Absolutely heartbreaking.
I looked after a cemetery for almost fifty years. All caskets in our cemetery are always placed in a concrete vault . This should have never happened if the casket was in a concrete vault in the first place
I was looking into buying plots in city owned, historic cemetery sites and I wondered why they required a cement vault, even for burying ashes. I thought it was an unnecessary expense but I understand it now 🤔
It was!!!! It broke and caved the casket lid in. Thats what that conctete pieces are inside the casket. They put the casket in a new vault but did not bother to remove the vault lid and casket lid that broke and fell in.
I’ll tell you exactly what happened. They were burying somebody next to him, and the excavator struck the vault and collapsed it. They then did try to cover up their mistake by taking the debris, piling it into a new vault and re-burying the vault, complete utter disrespect.
Pretty low..look how they dig up mummies or others and take them from they're resting places and display them for people to gawk at. Like it's ok because they died so long ago. Just as disrespectful.
My scoutmaster worked moving graves when they expanded mound road in late 50s. He told us most of the old coffins fell apart and had to be shoveled up. Now they are offering liqufication of the deceased. I think that when its my time would rather be cremated and tossed into the Detroit River. Even cemetary urns can end up as scrap metal today.
I’ve heard stories of disgusting handling of the remains of our loved ones when placed in grave yards such as this one. If we think about it, people die every day and these cemeteries do not grow land and it’s obvious they will get maxed out of spaces. I’ve heard of rotating the grave sites due to age. Meaning if the site is more than 100 years old it’s most likely there is no one who will ask “what happen to my family’s grave that was here but now gone?”… After many years there isn’t anyone to ask this. So to think that the grave yards rotate the open areas for fresh graves that at one time these were already filled prior. Those of the years past have since been removed and now are available for resale and a new body. I know, I know… but really think about what I said, these places do not and can not grow new land for new graves, right??? And especially when it’s inner cities where buildings keep them inline with property boundaries… So gross to think this way, but do the math… This is why I was so glad to hear my mother say she wanted to be cremated. I knew at that point this would never happen to her. To be messed with later on after being laid to rest. Some judged me for spreading the ashes and not keeping some in a small container of sorts. This is why…. Eventually I will pass too, what will become of the ashes I kept?? Well they would have ended up in the garbage and sent to a landfill for ever…. So I spread the ashes in a spot that I only shared with her closest friends and our family to enjoy. It was a place she had taken me as a child and most of our life’s journey. Every year on a certain date we went here for BBQ’s and a day at the beach… it was our spot to celebrate new beginnings and give thanks for our wonderful life… I have photo’s thru the years at this location and all of us at the Picnic tables sharing a meal and good times. I can’t imagine there being a better place to rest other than the very spot that brought so much happiness and joy thru the years. Now I can visit on that day or any day really and have found memories of the past while making them a part of my future… I Love and miss you very much Mom… God Bless you and Rest In Peace forever… 🙏🏻💙👊🏼
This is just one of the reasons I will be creamated and my ashes spread. No respect after being buried. People desecrating gravesites. Gravesites being moved to different locations so buildings can be built on valuable land. No one visits gravesites from a generation ago. Etc., etc., Great Post, Mike!
There needs to be an expanded investigation about people being cremated. When my Father died in 1980, his last wish was to be cremated. A dear female friend of mine since 9th grade, who was a registered nurse at Oakwood hospital in Dearborn, phoned me to make sure the body being cremated is in fact my father's body. She told me to look at his face before his body goes into the furnace. WHY? Because she has seen first hand from the hospital morgue, where "fresh" dead bodies going to be cremated are "replaced " with older bodies donated to medical science to area college's and universities like the Wayne State School of Mortuary Science, University of Michigan, and Michigan State. Although State law only allows dead bodies to be removed from hospitals by licensed funeral homes, these schools and others throughout the country, switch dead bodies from funeral homes destined for cremation to get the freshest dead bodies to further inhance their medical programs. My nurse friend told me this: "how many people really check to see that their loved one is really the one entering the cremation vessel, other than reading the toe tag?" My Oakwood Hospital nurse friend told me to really look at the face of my father before the cremation attendants push his body into the fire crypt. She told me to make a positive identification of my father before it's too late. My nurse friend was a well known friend to my entire family, and she wanted all of us to really be emotionally secure in knowing that the ashes we took possession of, was really my father. Until my nurse friend told me this, I never knew something like switching dead bodies for cremation would ever occur. My nurse friend told me this horrible thing occurs from the Wayne County Morgue, metro area hospitals like Oakwood Dearborn, and all the way to area funeral homes and college's and universities across the state of Michigan and in other states as well. It's a well kept secret in the medical field until my nurse friend told me, concerned about my father's body and how tight our friendship was between us. So Karen Drew, here's another thing to investigate about cemeteries, funeral homes, the Wayne County Morgue, Michigan college's- universities, and The Wayne State School of Mortuary Science and how cremated remains are being handled "professionally" in honoring the deceased. There's BIG MONEY being exchanged here folks. Fresh for old is putting big pocket change in many people's pockets. And yes I did look at the face of my dead father. To the shock and dismay of the cremation attendants, who told me that nobody ever requested to see first hand the face of their loved one before the body was inserted into the fire chamber. Until me, people just trusted them to check the name the toe tag. Thanks to my female nurse friend, when my family members visit the site where my father's cremated remains are buried at the Cemetary - my father's ashes are certainly his in the crypt.
@@everythingpony I looked soooo close to my father's face, the cremation attendants thought I was gonna kiss my dad on the lips. I'm positively sure the dead body going into the oven was my father. I didn't rely on reading the toe tag. Regarding switching bodies, remember local Detroit families finding out the graves of their loved one's bring empty? Or buried somewhere else without knowing where? How about the latest stories about local Detroit funeral directors storing dead bodies in the funeral home garage or basement storage areas with no air conditioning? Look at what local and national college's do to dog's that they buy from animal shelters. They conduct lab experiments that cause the animals to suffer and end up slowly dying, or die fast. There's BIG MONEY in dead bodies of any kind. How do you expect future funeral home directors to know their craft from the Wayne County School of Mortuary Science without "fresh" unclaimed or donated body's to science, or body's of dead people from friends or relatives who are too poor to bury their loved ones? What do you think happens to homeless people who have no identification and ends up dead? And the police can't find relatives to contact and have their family members bury them? Do ALL dead unidentified homeless people end up in a cemetary? REALLY? Fresh dead bodies are constantly needed to keep the medical field going, including preparing medical students to become doctors and cancer specialists and other types of medical professionals. How sure are you that these kinds of things DO NOT HAPPEN? You gotta remember, people are the worst animals on the planet. Man's inhumanity to humans isn't only reserved for the German Nazi's during WW2. People and children dissappear every day, never to be found. Some could be buried, some left in the open in the wild terrain to rot. And some could possibly be in some medical building being dissected for medical science. If my nurse friend saw something going on like that at her hospital, what's to say something else like that ain't happening in funeral homes and other places behind closed secret doors and building walls? Prove me positively wrong. CAN YOU? Cremated ashes all look the same when you open the Urn. No matter what color skin a person has before being roasted in the cremation chamber. I'll give my nurse friend the benefit of the doubt. She's the boots on the ground where it happens, or else she wouldn't warn me, in making that phone call to me and not shake up my mother and my siblings by calling them instead of her long time friend who trusts her instinctively and honestly. ME..... Stay tuned. Shocking news always comes to the surface just when you think you've seen or heard it all so far in your life. Life is definitely stranger than fiction.
@@rickprusak9326 I'm sure what you experienced is true, and occurs in many places but is more likely in places lower on the spectrum of medical care. Please be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. When I went to medical school (Univ. of Miami) we were told our cadavers, and I believe the administration, were ppl who donated their bodies to science, in fact, to the medical school. We have to learn normal anatomy, that is, to dissect cadavers who are not riddled with disease. Once we learn what normal is, the next year we study diseased organs. A donor cannot be accepted unless they die of old age or from natural causes, to use everyday language. They'll be rejected if they died of cancer, sarcoidosis, etc. I mean, it's going to come to light while we dissect them. All of our cadavers were very old people, and none of them had disease except what you'd expect: mild arthritis and some coronary artery atherosclerosis. None of them even smoked. That is simply not going to happen if we're switching bodies in the night. I'm offended by your statement, "Fresh dead bodies are constantly needed to keep the medical field going, including preparing medical students to become doctors and cancer specialists and other types of medical professionals. How sure are you that these kinds of things DO NOT HAPPEN?" I'm sure it does not happen in medical schools because of what I experienced in my training, thank you. You make us sound like we're digging up corpses to cobble together Frankenstein's monsters. Our cadavers were not "fresh bodies," they were elderly donors whose only preparation for dissection was to be immersed in formaldehyde until it permeated every tissue. We pored over those dissections for hundreds and hundreds of hours, inhaling formaldehyde, but during every hour every day we treated every ribbon of tissue with the deepest of respect and gratitude. Your Comment has its relevance, but medical schools have no place in it because in every anatomy class in every medical school we have to have donors with normal anatomy throughout their entire body. That is very rare among the general population, as it is. When my aunt and uncle donated their bodies to medical schools, two doctors from our class wrote them letters of gratitude in which they said all the things we wished we could have told our donors, that they were never able to hear about their donation, a sacred act of selflessness. You shouldn't be putting doubts into people's minds about the dedication, ethics, and training of the physicians to whom they trust their health. Your statement I quoted is an exaggeration based on fear and can only do harm. Readers who go back to your Comment to find that quote hopefully will not be able to, but only if you have the decency to remove it.
You actually wrote, "... children dissappear [sic] every day, never to be found...some could possibly be in some medical building being dissected for medical science...Prove me positively wrong. CAN YOU?" That is beyond disgusting of you. Also, one cannot disprove a negative. I cannot prove wrong the person who says Santa is real. 'Santa is real. Prove me positively wrong. CAN YOU?' Aliens ate my neighbor's testicles. Prove me positively wrong. CAN YOU? Get a grip.
This is irresponsible and heartless. My family and myself had a conversation a couple days ago about burials/ cemeteries, coming to the conclusion that we all want to be cremated- for more than one reason, the 1st being land, that will eventually be overcrowded/ unattended. God bless the family, I would be angry and hurt as well. ❤
😮The dishonor of this intentional act & the disrespect shown to the deceased & that family is unconscionable. I pray there are consequences & pray for the family to receive justice & healing. Just awful
That poor family. I’m sure there is always a pain that will be there when you lose your mother or father, even 30 years later. But to have to reopen that pain and trauma LITERALLY, and look at the skeletal remains of your father with trash thrown on top of him…..that’s terrible.
This is heart breaking for the families. I thank the person who sent the family pictures of their father's burial plot. Please keep us up to date on the progress of this investigation.🌹🌹
“Emergent maintenance”, to throw the remains in a crypt the way it was seen in the photos is unnerving. They could have notified the family and done it properly. Not making it look like a dump site. How heartless.
I'm in a funeral business and clearly they had a vault so if they got a vault that means there should not be no water damage to the casket no matter how many years that is the reason for a vault for preservation
As we throughout the US see more and more of cemeteries and funeral homes having shady practices happening within them . There should be a State or Federal agency put in place to monitor those places where loved ones are laid to rest to ensure that they have been cared for with DIGNITY and RESPECT as their laid to rest..Plus if given evidence of such actions being committed against someone who has passed immediately their should be an investigation opened immediately after and the cemetery should be closed until investigation is completed. If proven guilty the cemetery should be FORCED to close down indefinitely returning what funds have been paid for by families of the loved ones in turned on the grounds.
The cemetery could have taken more care in handling the situation but doubtful they will be responsible for collapse of the original vault, unless it can be proven they caused that too.
Thats ehat you get when you cheap out and buy a graveliner instead of a vault. A grave liner is only to keep the grave's ground level. Hence its called a GRAVE "LINER." A "VAULT" is not prone to "caving in" over time. It is of far greater in thickness and strength. ...Been in the funeral profession long time. There's a big differance.
shout out to the worker who had the morals, character, integrity, empathy, and sympathy to notify the family when this occurred. It doesnt matter how often you handle caskets and bodies, you treat them with dignity- as if it was your own grave site. Let it slide and they think they get a pass.
My Heart goes out to the Family it's the Worst nightmare to even have to go back down memory lane with a Family Love One ,let Alone To have the find our that your visiting a non Love one grave ,MY God How Many More Family Are Being Mistreated Unhuman Care Of A Family Love One .This is Horrific And Should Be Handled In the most Sensitive Way With The most Respect ,Shame Shame They Wrote Speak To The Family .They Will Have To Use there Disrespectful Voice to the Gudge .God Is Watching Over Your Father ,Blessings And Prayers To This Lovely Family ,How Many More And How Much Pain Can One Handled Through This Non Professional Cementary .Shame Shame ,Don't Let it Happened To There Love One.What Goes Around Comes Back Double Shame.
As if I were your loved one's!! That was someone's son. A severe level of psychopathic behavior and a kin to taking someone's life. Pathetic people.
As someone who has worked many years in the UK funeral industry I can say for certain that I totally agree with everything that you have said in your comment on here. I alway's alway's told everyone that worked with me that you only get one chance of doing this the right way with respect and dignity, there's No do-overs when laying a loved one to rest.
@@simonr6793 its even worse though. He was already buried. I can't believe this is happening in America. This particular area is running rampant with misconduct especially in the handling of the deceased. It is bizarre to think that these things go on anywhere in the world.
"Let the dead bury their own dead"
- Jesus
This literally means let the spiritually dead worry about the physically dead that they're attached to.
"Your dead fathers not there lady it's just a pile of Bones".😂
No one fills a coffin with trash from a dump site, buries it in a person's grave by mistake. This was deliberate.
And likely not the first time!!
Humans!!! 🤷♂️ Really. So much insanity.
I agree. These people are stealing/selling deceased peoples bones for profit. Look it up
Exactly
Jesus bless this family
You should be a detective!
I used to work as a caretaker in a cemetery and we accidentally broke open a crypt while digging an adjacent grave. It was an honest mistake by the backhoe operator. To correct the mistake, the cemetery contacted the sheriff's department, the county coroner, and the family about the incident. We then dug up the damage crypt, respectfully removed the casket, placed it in a new crypt, and reburied it. The family was not present (they opted not to be), but the county coroner did send an assistant as a witness to the exhumation and re-burial.
This cemetery is located very near a large lake and I will say that the casket was compromised. It was split open from the wood warping as water seeped into the crypt, so standard crypts only give so much protection from the elements and do deteriorate (more expensive crypts will last longer, but still will eventually breakdown). With that said, the cemetery should have contacted the family, had them present at the exhumation which would have given them the opportunity to replace the casket if it was so deteriorated, and then re-bury the remains in a new crypt. The actions here show that they were more worried about saving money than doing the right thing. Sad and inexcusable.
Excellent explanation!
I'm not taking sides. But doing it your way, given what you are telling us means this cemetery probably would have to do that for dozens or hundreds of sites, right?
@@Alvin-1138 No, just when an incident occurs which results in damaging an already interred occupant's grave in such a way that exposes the corpse. I am from Wisconsin and the procedure we followed is dictated by state and county law. It is to ensure that the breach was not criminal, like in the case of grave robbery or something more sinister.
Exactly. At the very least, they should have disposed of the garbage and old materials properly instead of throwing them on top of the poor guy and treating him like garbage. It's super disrespectful. I'm so glad someone found it in their heart to notify the family. I really question what else this cemetery might be doing that they shouldn't. This probably isn't the 1st time they've done this either sadly. Smh...shame on someone.
Agent j.
Respect to you. As for what you wrote totally spot on with everything you did. As someone who has worked many years in the UK funeral industry I know that what you said is the correct way to do thing, we all know accidents do happen and when water whether river/lake or even low-level underground water is involved these things do unfortunately happen more often than not. But Sir hats off to you for handling your own situation in the right professional manner.
"Let the dead bury their own dead"
- Jesus
This literally means let the spiritually dead worry about the physically dead that they're attached to.
"Your dead fathers not there lady it's just a pile of Bones".😂
A worker with Honor told the truth. bless him.
It’s not about normal wear n tear. It’s how you just dumped the debris and concrete on top of their father. Total disrespect. This is appalling
Clearly concrete & debris inside a casket is not from normal wear & tear! i have never seen or been inside a casket nor do i want to but how does concrete get inside a casket?
Probably when digging the new grave next to the family's graves caused the collapse not normal wear and tear.
@@eduardocruz4341 But concrete?
Exactly. The casket was damaged from the GARBAGE THEY PLACED ON TOP OF HIM. I am truly upset for this family. Unacceptable and our largest cemetery in our area where I planned to be laid to rest. Am rethinking my options now.
@@susanritchie4921 nowadays the coffins don't go into bare ground. You have to place a concrete vault in the burial hole then place the casket in the vault and seal it with a concrete lid so it won't float back up if the ground gets saturated with water like during a flood. The concrete may be from the old vault that was damaged from digging the new grave next to the father's.
Someone was honest enough to take pictures, they need a pat on the back.
And a few beers 🍻
@@flyingled3176 this bud is for them .
Money is better, everyone has bills
The field of culprits is very low as he's one of the grave-digging team there... and he's pictured others in frame so they're out of it.
@@anitakristensen4679 nice big tokes
I wanna give a shout out to the Person Responsible For Telling the Absolute Truth, and doing the Right, And Honorable Thing by sending the Pictures to the family, and making them aware of Whats Happened to their Loved Ones...
You Did the Right Thing 👏 👍💯 🇺🇸 Thank You 🇺🇸
Totally true! Hip hip. Hooray! To that guy who told.
Id rather not know that they were disrespectful of my loved ones grave.My loved one is only the body in the grave.They left the body and moved on.This would just make me upset at their death all over again.Regrief id call it.
There's hope yet for humanity.
Nah, he created unnecessary trauma for the family. The cemetery collected the remain including the coffin and placed it in a new vault.
M@@mikemcbain4250
Soooooo Glad for the worker that couldn’t sleep without letting this family know.
There are all kinds of heroes....
The coffin itself naturally deteriorated due to seepage, so I don't blame them for that. But there was no excuse for them to throw the pieces of the old vault in there. The cemetery workers were just being lazy and didn't want to properly dispose of it.
I would rather have my coffin rebured than have the coffin dumped in a trash dumpster.
Workers knew it was wrong… hence the pictures. Sad😢
@@margaret-ellenadams5536 it was probably someone new. Probably a millennial
You read my mind
@@Dularr right, because the generations who raised them NEVER cut corners. Oh wait
Maintenance they said, as they buried debris and trash on her father's corpse. She needs to sue the hell out of them.
Reburied in crypt. Hopefully they got it free after cemetery pulled this!
I worked in a cemetery for years. People asked at times to be buried in a family plot that was already full. (12) bodies in the plot. They said, “there can’t be anything left after all these years.” In old graves with no vaults there is only some wood, metal and a few bones left. I’ve dug graves next to an old grave in a family plot. You can see a faint line about a 1/2 thick of color. That’s all that’s left of the body and coffin after all those years. Basically nothing, the ground sinks and we added more dirt to the surface to keep it level. The vaults, are so the ground doesn’t sink when the coffin collapses. Although a new grave will sink for 3 years as it settles. I’ve seen vaults that have broken open under ground. I’ve smelt the body juices and embalming fluid that will run out of a cracked vault when we dug in the grave next to it. I’ve been in double deep graves with the sides of vaults on both sides of me and on each end. N,S,E,W around you. I guarantee the vault broke open from ground water seeping in and the casket deteriorated. They picked up the pieces and put them in a new vault. Although we never put any deteriorated coffins in new vaults. I’ve dug bodies up to move them at the behest of family. I’ve moved whole vaults and just bodies. I’ve seen skulls, bones, bits of clothing and metal. I used to think being buried was some what respectful and clean. It’s not. I am going to be cremated. I don’t want to be under groundwater while my coffin deteriorates. I remember a girl whose mother was buried in the winter. A winter grave will sink a few feet by spring. She swore someone desecrated her mother’s grave. She wouldn’t listen to anything. She thought she was an expert on burying people all of a sudden.
"Body juices" ! Man , you made my day with that one 😁😁😁
Interesting
I had a friend, God rest his soul, who worked in a grave yard back in the 80s. He told me similar stories. Being a graveyard worker is no fun.
There’s turnover and I don’t just mean employment.🤦🏻♂️
A grave should not sink ‘a few feet’ over the winter if properly filled. Maybe a hole you just haphazardly plopped some dirt on top of to fill, but the hole is only 5 feet deep total, and the vault with lid is usually about 3 feet tall.There are cemeteries out there that sink their graves with water to speed up the process of Mother Nature, and others that use tamping equipment to repack the soil, and even lay the sod back down over top when the weather permits.
Thats illegal to bury one on top another in the same grave unless the first one was buried like 10ft down, atleast where I live unless it a side by side companion plot or if you are talking urns there can be several. Had some ahole grave diggers try that with my grandma, instead of burying her next to her husband in the empty plot they went a row back and two or three over. They had it dug and were going to put her ontop of her mother in law! My mother and I showed up just in time. They had to fill it in and redig were they were supposed to. In the meantime we had to tell them to park the hearse in the shade bc they had it parked in the mid july sun! Didnt notice until after the funeral but they had taken up all or granite cornerstones and had buried them in the grave too!
My bf mother died & was buried in Jamaica in 2010. A few years back they contacted the cemetery about a tombstone. But we were told that they don't know what plot is hers. Apparently they cemented over the plot number so now we don't know which one is hers. One would think you would count over from the last number that is legible....sorry to hear about this family. I can imagine how devastating this must be.
Man, that's so messed up! I'm very sorry about that.
As a Jamaican, I can confirm that this happens with some frequency. it happened with my uncle's grave. It is partly because the cemetery workers mix concrete on the graves of others. You see, when a person is buried, the custom is mix and cover the grave right there at the graveside as part of the proceedings. When the cement cures and dries, what is left is just a flat cemented slab covering the entire grave. A year or so after, a tomb is supposed to be placed on the grave. The problem is that many wait years before they finish the grave and tombstone with granite etc. and so when others are buried, sometimes the idiotic workers, mix the cement on top of an old grave which destroys any markings on the grave.
Did the same thing with my father!
I've seen people have parties on top of graves in Jamaica. Not surprised at all. Terrible to have happen though. 😢
As other comments have stated --the maintenance crew probably broke this vault and quickly covered it up by throwing all the pieces into an 'extra' one the cemetary had on-site.... then mangement tried to cover up the 'hurry-up' job by lying.
Telling the truth and apologizing for the maintenance mistake AT THE TIME IT HAPPENED would've cost this cemetary a lot less then the lawsuit will.
Funeral Homes and Cemetery’s have had their issues in the past. One cemetery was flooded, coffin’s floated away and left further away from the cemetery.
It wasn’t discovered until someone noticed a coffin where it wasn’t supposed to be.
@@davidfromamerica1871 the tristate thing was just aweful.I think they put that guy inprison for it all.It was north Georgia i think.
"Maybe."
My Uncle was a monk in a very strict order. He was buried on a board wrapped in linen. His grave was dug somewhere on the property of the Monastery and his burial place is unmarked and will be forgotten over time. I sometimes wonder at the humanity and grace of this submission to eternity.
'Do not stand at my grave and weep
I am not there I do not sleep
I am a thousand winds that blow....'
That's beautiful Owen.
So many get tied up by their worth based on religion (Christians especially) which the funeral business loves to exploit. In my family, we do cremations and spread ashes in beautiful places we enjoyed while we lived. There's record of every death, no headstone is necessary to show you once lived on this earth. Digital cemeteries exist now too, everyone is accounted for. I won't leave anything behind for my family to have to tend. Life is for the living. 🌻☀
@@Mandy7D7 as a Christian myself I would say Christians are less obsessed with what happens to there bodies after death. I plan on cremation and scattering of ashes with no headstone. I had some Catholic family that insisted on embalming, body viewing, burial and headstones so maybe a Catholic thing but the majority of Christians I know are not concerned with this temporary vessel our soul is contained in.
@@nancid5265 Underground, the body relatively soon turns to dirt. Sure, some can last thousands of years, but most are little more than dirt within fifty or a hundred years. So, those old bodies aren't going to be resurrected. The main thing to focus on is the fact you have everlasting life in another form. The body is of the Earth and will soon return to it. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
@@nancid5265 Do you think there are any bodies from 2,000 years ago that were buried? Plants did not exist before the sun, moon and stars. The bible is a work of fiction.
@@the_gilded_age_phoenix8717there you are wrong.
Our bodies will be resurrected but the Lord does not the earthly body for the resurrection. We will be resurrected from the dust of the earth if our physical bodies have returned to the earth.
That’s what returning to the earth means….not that our bodies are put in the earth but that they break down and become one with the earth.
And from that very earth our glorified bodies will arise when the Lord comes again,
At least that’s what will happen to believes. Unbelievers will rose to resurrection of judgment…eternal death.
Judges don’t issue orders for “extensive inaccuracies”. Some people really are despicable and have no morals at all.
They must have been democrats 😀
@@omfug8593 wow, that was an intellectual response coming from someone who likely has a 9th grade education. Dems and Republicans are both the same kind of evil, only difference being that usually the Republicans are the less educated of the two. ☺️
Right! I mean just look at that poor man's casket...wow. Filled with rubbish it's deplorable 😟
None!
And it's a Catholic cemetery 😡😳🙄
I'm the Son of a funeral director, and I can tell you first hand that a lot of these cemeteries are run by some really shady people.
I'm dying to know more. 😏
i know of a cemetery on the other side of Michigan the guy that ran it was vary shady
Inspect and/or look up ratings of cemeteries prior to purchasing tombs, Graves and cremation disposition niches. Most are reputable but small older/private cemeteries may not have the required staffing for updating processes and maintenance requirements regarding cemetery concerns.
Did you know... that in most cases if a grave is at least 100 years old, they can legally dig them back up, vault, casket with remains in it and tear down headstone. They then demolish everything and dispose of everything! Like dig a big hole somewhere else, put as many as they need to in it and mass bury them. Like trash. This usually happens if the Cemetery is getting full and they need more plots. The evacuated graves are then refilled with dirt and the plot can be resold. I found this very disturbing to say the least. Ck your cemetery to see what the oldest dates are. It might surprise you...@kingpickle3712
@kingpickle3712
Ha Ha H😂.
It's very irresponsible & heartless to do this to a deceased person's gravesite. At least the person who got evidence had a heart. I hope the family can get their justice.
Good bless the man who seen and said something
Most gravesites are only maintained about 50 years! Many cities build over graveyards!
Right the people thought it was so bad they secretly sent them the pictures that right there really speaks volumes on how wrong this was
Justice for what?
@@justinsimpson3000 Please tell me what matters once you are in the dirt?
We NEED to reward people when they bring something like this to light.
Oh hell no. Just unbelievable. This was not “maintenance”. The family conducted themselves incredibly well. I can imagine that a lot of us would not have been able to be so gracious.
you / we only saw what was decided you would / could see
Doing this to any human is evil, but doing it to a veteran???? I am disgusted. So glad this came to light.
I’m so sorry this happened to this family.
This was absolutely heartbreaking to hear the daughter talk about her father's right to a dignified burial was a lot to take in my heart goes out to this family and I hope everything gets straightened out soon! ... RIP 🌹❤️🌹
I can't even imagine what they are going through. I recently lost my dad. But at least i know where he's buried. This is horrible. Poor people.. 💔😡
Amy, I am so very sorry for your loss of your Dad. 💔💐
I’m sorry for your loss Amy. I lost my mother in 2009. I know it’s very hard!
Im sorry for your loss Amy. I lost my dad in 2019 and my mom in 2021. May ur dad rest in peace
@@moonshadow3946 Aw Thanks so much. I miss him terribly.. 💔
@@Eddie2425 Thanks so much. I still miss him but at least i stopped crying all the time. I do miss him tho. I feel for people who have to deal with stuff like this. I'd freak out..
Resurrection Cemetery..."You belong in the HALL OF SHAME !!!"
I.ve worked in cemetery maintenance for 15 years doing burials like this . Someone in that cemetery screwed up . This is totally unacceptable for the crew that did this and for the cemetery themselves for allowing this to happen . My sincere apologies to the family for having to deal with this from a cemetery and their shoddy maintenance crew . SMH
I always wanted to work in a cemetery but I never had a chance to do it I have been working in a restaurant.for.thirtty years
@@maribelmaldonado252 ... It's not to bad actually . It's considered one of the most difficult jobs . It will humble you .
@Trump Hilter ... No , double deck vaults in ground . Most in the cemeteries are single plots .
Any scary stories while working in a cemetery?
"Screwed up?" More than one person HAD to know about this. I always see 5 or so working graveside.
Wow,this is appalling. How do you do this to a family who paid for a proper burial?
Shouldn't be done to anyone...PERIOD!!!
My mom, sister, and great niece are buried side by side at this cemetary. I live in NC, and return home each year, and of course I pay a visit to them each summer. This has always been a very well run and beautiful cemetary. My heart breaks for this daughter.
I'm from Va., live in N.C. and the cemetery where my parents are buried made the news a few years ago because the vault trucks wrecked a few graves during a rainy period. I understand your feelings about your family's graves.
"Believe what we say, not what you see!"
So sorry for the family's pain & sorrow
"Dead men tell no tales, but cameras do."
That's so heartbreaking .Thank you to the person who sent the photos.I can't imagine going through this.
Thank you to the person that took those photos and sent them to the family. You are a unknown hero. Not every hero saves babies from burning buildings or is a soldier. But hero's come in many ways and many different situations.
Hey... hello how are you doing?
We spend tons of money burying our love ones in these cemeteries and this stuff happens like it’s nothing pure Disgusting
Thankfully we do not put stock in dead remains. If you believe in an afterlife, (not saying people have to believe that), you're not concerned about dead flesh as you know the person's spirit and soul are with Christ.
@@thewordrules I understand this but it's about respecting the dead. The term "proper burial" means something and the financial cost of said burial is very expensive as I'm sure you already know.
Caskets can become compromised for any number of reasons, even in a crypt, and even because of bad choices on the cemetery owners part. Why is it actually worth that money? It's not, but it can be because people pay it and American funerals are an industry. Grandma deserves the luxury silk casket lining, right?
@@tashacherry1480 Its expensive because of preying on sentimentality and ignorance of chemcial, ecological processes/entropy.
Name any other situation where you would bury something in the ground and expect it to 'survive' in any kind of good condition. There is absolutely nothing positive that is gonna come from digging up remains from 30 years ago. Under ANY circumstances.
"if they wouldn't have gotten those photos, they wouldn't have known..."
Just another business day in 🇺🇸
1986......A funeral director's son was my best friend at school. My friend started to became reclusive and withdrawn and I asked him what was wrong, but he looked sad and didn't want to talk about it. One morning he didn't come to school.... disappeared. About a month later there was a article in a local newspaper......a very foul smell came from a garage of a tenant that suddenly moved out of a townhouse complex and the janitor was called to open the garage to investigate. He found several caskets ⚰ and two had decomposing human remains. All from funerals that took place but the bodies never buried. My thoughts..... my friend had to pay for his father's sins. His mom left long ago and he never had any stability in his life. Disappeared from my life because of his father. I pray that he is happy, that his life turned out okay. I do not know. Even though it was long ago it stil bothers me. One has only so many close friends in your lifetime...
I’m so sorry for the family. WTH? 😢
The family sleeps on memory foam. I feel sorry for the dad. He sleeps under rubble and debris.
These vaults cost the family in times of grief. They should've been done right. Lawsuit for a new one. The coffin and remains are ruined. Make them pay.
@@sheliabattle1129 My mother had a debilitating terminal disease, and according to her, she purchased an inclusive burial contract for all the items needed at the time of her death. This supposedly included casket, memorial service, burial, and the burial plot directly beside her to be used for the first death of her children. She paid for these services on this contract for years, had it paid off way before her death, and informed us children her burial would be completely paid for at her death and we should not incur any other financial burdens to be paid by any of us. Two of us (one being the executrix of momma's will), went to the funeral home to start mothers burial.. We had momma's will and her burial contract showing all paid off, and all we needed to do was contact them. They proceeded to try get us to "upgrade" her casket, add additional flowers, provide more music, more chairs, add a larger marble headstone that could include to person to be buried next to her at a later date, for a much higher cost. We declined all as we told them, our mother had already planned her funeral, and we were going to stay with her final wishes. Then, came the "extra price" for the concrete vault required by Texas law, stating all coffins must be enclosed into a concrete vault. This was many years ago, and the price then was $800, paid before said burial. The executrix asked why this wasn't covered by her contract, and they stated, "(the concrete vault), probable wasn't required by the state at the time she bought the contract". Watch out for "fine print", "requirements by your home state", and, if these extra things are covered by their contract. The time when your loved one dies is extremely stressful, and there ae some employed by the funeral home to take advantage of the family's desires to "get the best for momma/daddy/son/daughter". Think realistically. When a parent or child purchases a burial contract, have someone go with them to ensure all requirements are addressed, and all desires are included in the contract, and if not , why not. Funerals are BIG BUSINESS! Don't get caught by the short hairs! Thank you for reading!
@@AvoidTheseMemes I bet that rattled his ghost.
@@sheliabattle1129 Especially with all the money they put into it.
I took my Grandmother's remains to be inturned in my grandfather's burial vault with him . And during the ceremony there were crews removing caskets from the ground and putting them on a flatbed truck. I couldn't understand what the heck they were doing. And then after the ceremony we were all leaving when a forklift came down the path and the casket it was carrying fell apart spilling the remains of a long deceased woman onto the path . It was a horrible thing to have happen but even more so in front of 75-80 people who just attended a service for a loved one. Worse yet was it wasn't the only casket to crumble and the remains of it's occupant to hit the path. I know this because right after seeing the woman's remains fall out onto the path I was crossing a 2nd path on my way to my car when I noticed a lower jaw complete with teeth laying next to the curb. I went to the cemetery office and notified them .
What a horrific experience for you to see all that! It shouldn't happen in America. Sounds like the cemetery from hell. ..like it couldn't be real ... except in a horror movie. But seeing is believing so I am sorry you had to see all that. ✝️😔
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@@lissainlenoir - It shouldn’t happen anywhere.
Sounds weird, is it really true, I don't believe it.
W T F
If people REALLY knew what goes on in funeral homes and cemeteries they'd spin out of control.
Spending thousands of dollars to bury a loved one and then trusting these strangers with your loved one's remains is insane.
It'll never be exposed because the industry is too large and corrupt and the consequences cannot even be imagined.
It's sick.
I made a lot of money off cemetery service stocks the last few years...please keep quiet.
@@AgentXaos you work for Cruelty Squad Headquarters!?!
As a director i feel i need to say that the grand majority of us are NOT like that. My heart is crying for this family and that man, and neither myself or anyone i would associate with would dream of giving any less then the upmost care and respect to everyone that walk into my funeral home. Living or deceased.
However it must be said that yeah, there is unfortunately alot of unscrupulous people in this business aswell and its no secret that it has historically been corrupt. If you feel like the funeral home isnt showing the respect deserved then please do take your loved somewhere else. It dosnt matter if the funeral home is or is not doing what theyre supposed to, if you are not at peace with them dont let it go because you will spend the rest of your life questioning that feeling.
BUT also i would ask you give us a chance to prove that we arent all like that and to not generalize us that way too terribly much. Protecting your loved ones will always come first, as they should, but people dont need that added level of stress while dealing with us of wondering how the funeral home is abusing their loved one or taking advantage of them. Grief is hard enough, last thing i want is a family to feel they have to be on guard around me when my job is to make this easier for them to make it through.
Again, im not trying to argue that you shouldnt be aware of bad actors. Only that most of us only want to help. Lord knows we dont do it for our health, and honestly knowing that every single day i go into work will be a fresh memory of someones sorrow, or another nightmare I'll have of a child, doesnt exactly get me jumping out of bed. Knowing that their families need a guide does.
@@AgentXaos Sociopath
SCI will get ya
When my Dad was Buried at a National Veterans Cemetery I stayed around after the Grave Side Service and was Shocked when they Dumped a bunch of broken headstones on top of his Casket and when I asked why they said that it is common practice at all Cemeteries to fill the holes with left over Cemetery Debris.
@TBI-Firefighter-451 Unbelievable! MY Dad is at the Military National Cemetery in Houston. Had I known this then, I would have camped out at his grave until they buried him to prevent such! This knowledge will give me nightmares.
I pray for the deceased and their family. Sending our love your way 🙌🏼
they're dead get over it .
My Lord, not even the dead are respected in these days.
You respect people that are alive - not rotten bones.
@@paulsawczyc5019 ok, then I respectfully remind you that your day is coming soon!
@@tbolton6156 I have always respected people that tell the truth! - and please spend $10,ooo on me while I am alive - not when I'm dead.
@@paulsawczyc5019 then the "truth" is you are not my responsibility. Better do like the rest of us, get your a$$ some life insurance.
Read up about disgusting people molesting corpses. There's at least two that used 100 or more. Nasty.
Not to mention Arthur Rathburn. The Body Broker. This is NOTHING compared to chopping them up and selling the components to medical schools/hospitals/ and universities.
All of whom are right in on it.
Look up Tri State. I'll take this over Tri state ANY day.
My heart goes out to this family. This is so disrespectful and how many others are like this???? Whoever runs this cemetery needs to be prosecuted
Concrete crypts are required to prevent ground subsidence. Concrete is porous so water seeps in and out causing the metal casket to rust and wooden ones to rot away. Mausoleums and above ground vaults preserve the remains for a much longer period with less maintenance.
One of the many reasons folks no longer go for the expensive traditional casket and vault. Now they just cremate the remains and scatter them for a fraction of the cost and no more desecration issues.
Its also disgusting what is done to the body prior to the viewing. I want to be cremated immediately with no interference by a mortician.
@@pegs1659 What? Who do you think is operating the crematorium and the cremulator (bone crusher)?
And respectfully, SOME things you'll want done. See Ask a Mortician. You'll see.
You don't need embalming, tho and several other things. You can do a viewing with dry ice in your home, too. Just like the old days.
Miscommunication???? How do you misunderstand burying garbage (the compromised urn that out of the"goodness of his heart didn't want to pay for disposal of) in the same place of your loved one!
Nope, smh, should've called the family and just told them what was up. I'm sure they would've gladly paid to correct the issue.
In an IDEAL WORLD.. we're talking about perhaps an illegal paid 10 bucks to dig the holes and couldn't read English..so many businesses hire people who are desperate to earn 10 or 20 bucks!
Why does it matter?? It’s going in the ground
@@daviddillardjohnson1095 it may not matter to you, but surely you have enough emotional intelligence to know that your feelings about a subject aren't the only ones that matter in the world.
Why should THEY have to pay...? Let the church handle it. They're rich and it's their fault.
@@SwaggerChiick1 obviously it matters to others. I’m only asking why
This is horrific. My sympathy goes out to the family involved.
I am pretty certain this wasn't a one off incident which must be terribly distressing for anybody who has a loved one buried there.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
This is outrageously wrong! Congratulations to the person who sent the pictures to the family. You did the right thing !
This is so common, you have no idea what cemeteries do, most graves leak, and the coffins are filled with water and other things, the coffins rust, and rot and the vaults crack, and no one will ever know, cremation is the best answer to all of this!
Coffins do not rust because they are mostly made of wood but Caskets will rust as they are made of metal.
Yes cremation is definitely the way to go in the future.
@@mariuskuhrau761 Rotting or rusting it's a complete waste of money, time and effort!
My mom and dad pre-planned their funeral and at that time the church was building a mausoleum and they had a reasonable price for plots, or vaults as they called the above-ground place of rest, so they went with it. So far so good.
But sadly I have seen videos here on YT where funeral homes had been abandoned and remains are still inside to be buried, or placed in an abandoned mausoleum. Does anybody know if there is a law made since that if remains are found to be buried, there has to be a proper burial for those remains? It just is disrespectful to the dead and makes you wonder if another funeral home is permitted to sign on to the job if the people who run the first funeral home take off, leaving remains behind.
I remember hearing too about incomplete or excessive embalming fluid being used certain places and it made the body unfit for a viewing. It makes you wonder how some undertakers can do that. Some people have also found coffins and mausoleum drawers leaking after an improper embalming and as the remains break down, there is a leak.
All I can say is take your time and check out funeral homes well to make sure you feel secure about the place that does the preparation and care of your loved one. It's best to pre-plan if you can. My parents were far from rich, but they were able to pay off their final resting spot so that it didn't come to chaos when a loved one passed.
@@tuxitalk1World No, no pre-planning. Don't pay up-front. After that, your money is GONE. If the owners die or leave it, good luck getting your money back.
They'll claim you owe more $$$, too, after the fact.
Green burial.
Also so that means every vault that has been replaced will look just like that, imagine how many people are gonna have this done just to find out.
Who tf cares
@@daviddillardjohnson1095 who tf pissed in your punch? Why tf are you so cranky?
How do you do this to someone!? Not even looking at the fact that this family probably paid a lot of money to have their loved ones final resting place in this cemetery, but even if it were a pauper's grave you shouldn't do this! I'm absolutely glad we had our Mom cremated because this is literally my fear come to life!
Cremation is the best method to honor a loved one and pets.
Cremation is absolutely the best option in terms of cost and after life harm. It's so unfortunate people cannot be trusted to do what's right, not even after death.
@@VirgoCatleesi the problem with cremation is that they mix all the ashes together. The urn that you receive has other people's remains mixed in.
I worked in my teens for a cemetery and water getting into a coffin’s vault is very very common. Additionally if we damaged a coffin vault it was SOP to replace the coffin vault and place everything that was recovered from the original coffin vault. Additionally even if a coffin vault remains sealed everything inside it deteriorates over time because the interior of the vault has moisture in it from the deceased, the coffin itself etc. That all said before the coffin vault was replaced a letter would be sent to the on file next of kin to ask if they or there representative would like to be present and would they like their loved one(s) be placed in a new coffin. The management of this cemetery did encourage the direct next of kin not to attend because doing so always seemed to cause long ago emotions to surface again
I’m so very sorry this happened to your family!! Your dad and mom deserved a proper burial!! Praying for your family and friends!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Funk...lol..lol..you sound nasty..
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@@waynebfr8953 as someone who is not religious nor believes in a God, Imma just say you really need to learn to respect those who do. Even if there is or isn't a God, for some its a symbol of hope that death isn't the end, and that people will see their loved ones again. It's a comfort. Sit back down, kid.
Hello Rhonda
They filled a man's casket with garbage??? What happened to the remains? Were they UNDER all that debis?
No, they replaced the broken vault with a new one and filled the new vault with the broken casket and remains of the deceased. Seems like something I wouldn’t have wanted to deal with anyway.
Yes
@@imdifferentMr843 Why does it even matter
@@daviddillardjohnson1095 , do or did you love your dad?
@@tomcloss9764 Yeah but I don’t care if he or my own body has some stuff on it 30 years after we die. I thought it would all be dirt by then anyways
It seems like someone wanted to avoid paying to dispose of trash. Someone who had access to digging equipment, and permission of the groundskeeper. I would be tearing up more graves. This is not a one off.
It was not actual trash. It was pieces of the broken vault and casket. Come on now.
I don't want to be buried in a deteriorating casket with the water table creeping up into it.....cremation for me.
God bless that employee who took pictures and said this is so wrong, the family needs to know. The scary thing how many other graves have been messed with 🤔
Absolutely. The infuriating part is they persist in denying ANY wrongdoing(while trying to make themselves out to be altruistic martyrs). My Mom died when I was 23 and the hospice nurse called a funeral home themoment she died and they showed up fast and wiskdd away my Mom's body. When the guy shook my hand and said, "I'm sorry for your loss...", I had a flash of him reciting this line in front of his mirror. My Mom's little sister fired them promptly and had Mom transferred out of their care. God bless.
@@buck4yergold498 This is interesting. The nurse didn't ask the family to notify their funeral home, she took it upon herself to call one of her choosing?
@@fifty9forty3 Yes. My aunt thought that the hospice nurse may have gotten a kickback for getting that funeral home out so fast to take the body. Most people may just go along with it in that grieving state. But my aunt is the corporate type(head of Dayton Hudson auditing dept in 80's doing all audits of the Target stores across the country). She smelled a rat 🐀... Im so glad she fired them and had Mom moved.
Buck: Thank you for getting back to me.
The nurse was taking advantage of you in grief.
SORRY THIS HAPPENED TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ! "THANK YOU" TO THE PERSON THAT SENT THE PICTURES ! PRAYING FOR YOU AND YOUR !❤️
Lower the caps and be more respectful.
So sad! I wasn’t expecting to see all that debris in the poor man’s coffin. May he Rest In Peace. I hope the family gets closure.
How does sharing the casket with bits of wood affect how the corpse is resting?
@@iananderson3799 it's not just that but the pieces of concrete from the broken vault that they piled on top of it
How awful.No respect paid to the deceased or their families 🕊️😢
That’s just sad and disrespectful these Funeral Homes are some snakes and they make all that money smh my heart breaks for them
The funeral homes and cemeteries are separate entities so don't blame the funeral homes.
No Really I didn’t know that your so smart but wait a minute didn’t the funeral home put the man on the cheap casket they caved in so easily there’s people been buried for years and this don’t happen so shhhhh
@@diamondzrain1216 Yes the funeral home places the body in a casket and transports it to the cemetery but typically the cemetery will provide the vault. Regardless, somehow the vault was compromised whether from degradation or abuse by the cemetery workers which caused the damage to the casket. So again, do not blame the funeral home.
@@diamondzrain1216 The family or the person themselves purchased a “cheap casket”. It’s not the funeral homes fault. They did what they were told. Plus nothing lasts forever.
@@diamondzrain1216 I'm sorry to say but the person you're talking to about this is totally correct in what there telling you. Regardless of how much the coffin cost the vault is the responsibility of the cemetery and for your comment about it being the only one I'd be amazed if it was the only one.
My heart goes out to them!! It looks like vault was open. That vault should have protected the casket. Now I'm worried on my dad. So very sorry again.
Many people cremate. Honestly, this probably seems insensitive to you. But once someone has passed, they are no longer here. People are way too sensitive nowadays. Cremation not only saves space in the world, but it’s what should be done. Imagine 100yrs from now with a population exponentially growing and all this space taken up by buried boxes of bones….
@@AshtrayAnnie
Respect the living.
Respect the dead.
Anyone who falls short of both lacks empathy and should take a long hard look at themselves!
@John Connor You're ridiculous! You seem a little off your rocker. She has a "right" to make a comment. She didn't say what you "should" do. She merely commented on the other option MANY ppl choose instead of burial. It wasn't a dictation and cremation is NOT by force! " Cremation is the doorway to hell" Oh really? So burial must be the doorway to heaven. I sure hope you weren't banking on that Homer! The person u were and the way you lived your life here on this earth would determine that, not what is done with your body after death. Ridiculous!
@@op3488 You should reread what I said in both comments. You’ll realize I respect both, when most do not. The dead don’t care where they are buried. The dead don’t need a 15k casket. Stop thinking you understand death. You clearly do not if you don’t understand this.
@@op3488 How about respect other ppls opinions. You do not have to agree. There is nothing wrong with choosing to be cremated if that is your choice! There is nothing disrepectful about that.
Very disrespectful, shame on them!!
So sad. How many others are like that??
Are you serious?!
Look at historical cemeteries, not to mention archeological sites that are dug up and/or moved each year.
Capitalism at it's finest...
Cemeteries sell out to other companies which in turn sell out to different companies.
Bottomline, cremation seems to be the best way to make sure one's remains are placed where one wishes them to be, without the chance of them being dug up at a later date.
How horrifying! I’m so glad that this story made it to the news. The grief and anger that the daughter expressed made me want to go hug her. 🥺 I would have been outraged and upset too.
Your name says you stink I wouldn’t want to be next to you
Dead is dead.
A story that serves only to detract you from the real issues.
@@b0rd3n correct. Nothing wrong was done. That grave had deteriorated obviously and the few remains were reburied it’s quite common. How is that disrespectful? People can be such self righteous idiots lol
@@b0rd3n Like throwing trash and concrete shards in with the busted open casket.
It's better to cremate, My husband and daughter still live with me even though they have passed away My 8 week old grandson lives with his parents. I was terrified that something like this would happen to them if they were buried. My heart bleeds for the family, Absolutely heartbreaking.
I've dug up coffins twenty years old that couldn't hold the body inside when raised. Steel and wood like a sponge.
This is so sacrilegious. Can’t imagine the added pain.🙏🏼
Sacrilegious? Please show me any Christian Document that supports that claim?
I looked after a cemetery for almost fifty years. All caskets in our cemetery are always placed in a concrete vault . This should have never happened if the casket was in a concrete vault in the first place
I was looking into buying plots in city owned, historic cemetery sites and I wondered why they required a cement vault, even for burying ashes. I thought it was an unnecessary expense but I understand it now 🤔
In Illinois, most cemeteries insist on it. But you can go green burial.
It was!!!! It broke and caved the casket lid in. Thats what that conctete pieces are inside the casket. They put the casket in a new vault but did not bother to remove the vault lid and casket lid that broke and fell in.
@@sweetcheeks89 she should have looked over this video for 50 years and she might have picked up on that.
The vault company used substandard concrete for the vault. Cremation for my family.
This is unacceptable and disgraceful,my heart go out to the family,you are in my prayers
I’ll tell you exactly what happened. They were burying somebody next to him, and the excavator struck the vault and collapsed it. They then did try to cover up their mistake by taking the debris, piling it into a new vault and re-burying the vault, complete utter disrespect.
Most likely.
Props to the anonymous photo sender. I would be so deeply grateful!
How low can our humanity devolve? Someone needs to be held accountable.
Pretty low..look how they dig up mummies or others and take them from they're resting places and display them for people to gawk at. Like it's ok because they died so long ago. Just as disrespectful.
@@michellehawkins1027 Yes! That is inhumane.
Wonderful woman. Her parents are looking down with pride. I wish her and her family serenity and strength. 🙏
We all know no one can “ look down”.
My scoutmaster worked moving graves when they expanded mound road in late 50s. He told us most of the old coffins fell apart and had to be shoveled up. Now they are offering liqufication of the deceased. I think that when its my time would rather be cremated and tossed into the Detroit River. Even cemetary urns can end up as scrap metal today.
I’ve heard stories of disgusting handling of the remains of our loved ones when placed in grave yards such as this one. If we think about it, people die every day and these cemeteries do not grow land and it’s obvious they will get maxed out of spaces. I’ve heard of rotating the grave sites due to age. Meaning if the site is more than 100 years old it’s most likely there is no one who will ask “what happen to my family’s grave that was here but now gone?”… After many years there isn’t anyone to ask this. So to think that the grave yards rotate the open areas for fresh graves that at one time these were already filled prior. Those of the years past have since been removed and now are available for resale and a new body. I know, I know… but really think about what I said, these places do not and can not grow new land for new graves, right??? And especially when it’s inner cities where buildings keep them inline with property boundaries… So gross to think this way, but do the math…
This is why I was so glad to hear my mother say she wanted to be cremated. I knew at that point this would never happen to her. To be messed with later on after being laid to rest. Some judged me for spreading the ashes and not keeping some in a small container of sorts. This is why…. Eventually I will pass too, what will become of the ashes I kept?? Well they would have ended up in the garbage and sent to a landfill for ever…. So I spread the ashes in a spot that I only shared with her closest friends and our family to enjoy. It was a place she had taken me as a child and most of our life’s journey. Every year on a certain date we went here for BBQ’s and a day at the beach… it was our spot to celebrate new beginnings and give thanks for our wonderful life… I have photo’s thru the years at this location and all of us at the Picnic tables sharing a meal and good times. I can’t imagine there being a better place to rest other than the very spot that brought so much happiness and joy thru the years. Now I can visit on that day or any day really and have found memories of the past while making them a part of my future…
I Love and miss you very much Mom… God Bless you and Rest In Peace forever… 🙏🏻💙👊🏼
This is just one of the reasons I will be creamated and my ashes spread. No respect after being buried. People desecrating gravesites. Gravesites being moved to different locations so buildings can be built on valuable land. No one visits gravesites from a generation ago. Etc., etc., Great Post, Mike!
@@LMH6379 👊🏼💯💙
Tell your loved ones to be there to see you being cremated otherwise how would they know if those are your ashes😔
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This is why my gradfather, father, uncle, and all my family's cats we've lost are cremated. WE are in control of what happens to our loved ones.
I bet this goes on more than we will ever know. 🥺💔
WOW! Great reporting!
Dont ever believe this is an isolated event.
This has happened thousands of times.
There needs to be an expanded investigation about people being cremated. When my Father died in 1980, his last wish was to be cremated. A dear female friend of mine since 9th grade, who was a registered nurse at Oakwood hospital in Dearborn, phoned me to make sure the body being cremated is in fact my father's body. She told me to look at his face before his body goes into the furnace. WHY? Because she has seen first hand from the hospital morgue, where "fresh" dead bodies going to be cremated are "replaced " with older bodies donated to medical science to area college's and universities like the Wayne State School of Mortuary Science, University of Michigan, and Michigan State. Although State law only allows dead bodies to be removed from hospitals by licensed funeral homes, these schools and others throughout the country, switch dead bodies from funeral homes destined for cremation to get the freshest dead bodies to further inhance their medical programs. My nurse friend told me this: "how many people really check to see that their loved one is really the one entering the cremation vessel, other than reading the toe tag?" My Oakwood Hospital nurse friend told me to really look at the face of my father before the cremation attendants push his body into the fire crypt. She told me to make a positive identification of my father before it's too late. My nurse friend was a well known friend to my entire family, and she wanted all of us to really be emotionally secure in knowing that the ashes we took possession of, was really my father. Until my nurse friend told me this, I never knew something like switching dead bodies for cremation would ever occur.
My nurse friend told me this horrible thing occurs from the Wayne County Morgue, metro area hospitals like Oakwood Dearborn, and all the way to area funeral homes and college's and universities across the state of Michigan and in other states as well. It's a well kept secret in the medical field until my nurse friend told me, concerned about my father's body and how tight our friendship was between us. So Karen Drew, here's another thing to investigate about cemeteries, funeral homes, the Wayne County Morgue, Michigan college's- universities, and The Wayne State School of Mortuary Science and how cremated remains are being handled "professionally" in honoring the deceased. There's BIG MONEY being exchanged here folks. Fresh for old is putting big pocket change in many people's pockets. And yes I did look at the face of my dead father. To the shock and dismay of the cremation attendants, who told me that nobody ever requested to see first hand the face of their loved one before the body was inserted into the fire chamber. Until me, people just trusted them to check the name the toe tag. Thanks to my female nurse friend, when my family members visit the site where my father's cremated remains are buried at the Cemetary - my father's ashes are certainly his in the crypt.
Are you sure tho?
@@everythingpony I looked soooo close to my father's face, the cremation attendants thought I was gonna kiss my dad on the lips. I'm positively sure the dead body going into the oven was my father. I didn't rely on reading the toe tag.
Regarding switching bodies, remember local Detroit families finding out the graves of their loved one's bring empty?
Or buried somewhere else without knowing where? How about the latest stories about local Detroit funeral directors storing dead bodies in the funeral home garage or basement storage areas with no air conditioning? Look at what local and national college's do to dog's that they buy from animal shelters. They conduct lab experiments that cause the animals to suffer and end up slowly dying, or die fast. There's BIG MONEY in dead bodies of any kind. How do you expect future funeral home directors to know their craft from the Wayne County School of Mortuary Science without "fresh" unclaimed or donated body's to science, or body's of dead people from friends or relatives who are too poor to bury their loved ones? What do you think happens to homeless people who have no identification and ends up dead? And the police can't find relatives to contact and have their family members bury them? Do ALL dead unidentified homeless people end up in a cemetary? REALLY? Fresh dead bodies are constantly needed to keep the medical field going, including preparing medical students to become doctors and cancer specialists and other types of medical professionals. How sure are you that these kinds of things DO NOT HAPPEN? You gotta remember, people are the worst animals on the planet. Man's inhumanity to humans isn't only reserved for the German Nazi's during WW2. People and children dissappear every day, never to be found. Some could be buried, some left in the open in the wild terrain to rot. And some could possibly be in some medical building being dissected for medical science. If my nurse friend saw something going on like that at her hospital, what's to say something else like that ain't happening in funeral homes and other places behind closed secret doors and building walls? Prove me positively wrong. CAN YOU? Cremated ashes all look the same when you open the Urn. No matter what color skin a person has before being roasted in the cremation chamber. I'll give my nurse friend the benefit of the doubt. She's the boots on the ground where it happens, or else she wouldn't warn me, in making that phone call to me and not shake up my mother and my siblings by calling them instead of her long time friend who trusts her instinctively and honestly. ME.....
Stay tuned. Shocking news always comes to the surface just when you think you've seen or heard it all so far in your life. Life is definitely stranger than fiction.
@@rickprusak9326: I think you have watched too many Boris Karloff movies.
@@rickprusak9326 I'm sure what you experienced is true, and occurs in many places but is more likely in places lower on the spectrum of medical care. Please be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. When I went to medical school (Univ. of Miami) we were told our cadavers, and I believe the administration, were ppl who donated their bodies to science, in fact, to the medical school. We have to learn normal anatomy, that is, to dissect cadavers who are not riddled with disease. Once we learn what normal is, the next year we study diseased organs. A donor cannot be accepted unless they die of old age or from natural causes, to use everyday language. They'll be rejected if they died of cancer, sarcoidosis, etc. I mean, it's going to come to light while we dissect them. All of our cadavers were very old people, and none of them had disease except what you'd expect: mild arthritis and some coronary artery atherosclerosis. None of them even smoked. That is simply not going to happen if we're switching bodies in the night. I'm offended by your statement, "Fresh dead bodies are constantly needed to keep the medical field going, including preparing medical students to become doctors and cancer specialists and other types of medical professionals. How sure are you that these kinds of things DO NOT HAPPEN?" I'm sure it does not happen in medical schools because of what I experienced in my training, thank you. You make us sound like we're digging up corpses to cobble together Frankenstein's monsters. Our cadavers were not "fresh bodies," they were elderly donors whose only preparation for dissection was to be immersed in formaldehyde until it permeated every tissue. We pored over those dissections for hundreds and hundreds of hours, inhaling formaldehyde, but during every hour every day we treated every ribbon of tissue with the deepest of respect and gratitude. Your Comment has its relevance, but medical schools have no place in it because in every anatomy class in every medical school we have to have donors with normal anatomy throughout their entire body. That is very rare among the general population, as it is. When my aunt and uncle donated their bodies to medical schools, two doctors from our class wrote them letters of gratitude in which they said all the things we wished we could have told our donors, that they were never able to hear about their donation, a sacred act of selflessness. You shouldn't be putting doubts into people's minds about the dedication, ethics, and training of the physicians to whom they trust their health. Your statement I quoted is an exaggeration based on fear and can only do harm. Readers who go back to your Comment to find that quote hopefully will not be able to, but only if you have the decency to remove it.
You actually wrote, "... children dissappear [sic] every day, never to be found...some could possibly be in some medical building being dissected for medical science...Prove me positively wrong. CAN YOU?" That is beyond disgusting of you. Also, one cannot disprove a negative. I cannot prove wrong the person who says Santa is real. 'Santa is real. Prove me positively wrong. CAN YOU?' Aliens ate my neighbor's testicles. Prove me positively wrong. CAN YOU? Get a grip.
OMG shame Resurection Cemetary. How sad for your Father.
Trash in the casket? Sounds very suspicious. I hope the family sues and gets honest answers
This has to be devastating to the family. Such a very sad sad situation, my heart goes out to those family members.
That was total disrespect to the family and the deceased
What kind of people would do this , how ghoulish. This is sick.
These types of people are stealing and selling deceased peoples bones for profit. Look it up, it’s true
This is how most cemeteries run, move and put crap in caskets
Hi Gary how are you doing 😊
He's not there anymore. He's gone.
This is irresponsible and heartless. My family and myself had a conversation a couple days ago about burials/ cemeteries, coming to the conclusion that we all want to be cremated- for more than one reason, the 1st being land, that will eventually be overcrowded/ unattended. God bless the family, I would be angry and hurt as well. ❤
😮The dishonor of this intentional act & the disrespect shown to the deceased & that family is unconscionable. I pray there are consequences & pray for the family to receive justice & healing. Just awful
That poor family. I’m sure there is always a pain that will be there when you lose your mother or father, even 30 years later. But to have to reopen that pain and trauma LITERALLY, and look at the skeletal remains of your father with trash thrown on top of him…..that’s terrible.
This is heart breaking for the families. I thank the person who sent the family pictures of their father's burial plot. Please keep us up to date on the progress of this investigation.🌹🌹
“Emergent maintenance”, to throw the remains in a crypt the way it was seen in the photos is unnerving. They could have notified the family and done it properly. Not making it look like a dump site. How heartless.
vault* not crypt
There is no excuse in this atrocity.
Ah Detroit never fails to disappoint in the nefarious deeds it’s known for. I hope that family sues, wins and someone or two goes to jail.
I mean, my God. This is so incredibly disrespectful.
Ok so if the casket was destroyed then why put the rubbish on top of him ?????
I'm in a funeral business and clearly they had a vault so if they got a vault that means there should not be no water damage to the casket no matter how many years that is the reason for a vault for preservation
Spending over 10k just for your remains to end up in a muddy hole. Cremation
Green burial and home viewing is even cheaper
As we throughout the US see more and more of cemeteries and funeral homes having shady practices happening within them . There should be a State or Federal agency put in place to monitor those places where loved ones are laid to rest to ensure that they have been cared for with DIGNITY and RESPECT as their laid to rest..Plus if given evidence of such actions being committed against someone who has passed immediately their should be an investigation opened immediately after and the cemetery should be closed until investigation is completed. If proven guilty the cemetery should be FORCED to close down indefinitely returning what funds have been paid for by families of the loved ones in turned on the grounds.
Yeah, more government, that'll fix everything.......you really do not pay attention to all the problems we have with excessive government do you?
The cemetery could have taken more care in handling the situation but doubtful they will be responsible for collapse of the original vault, unless it can be proven they caused that too.
God help this grieving family. 😖😭🙏
Thats ehat you get when you cheap out and buy a graveliner instead of a vault.
A grave liner is only to keep the grave's ground level.
Hence its called a GRAVE "LINER."
A "VAULT" is not prone to "caving in" over time. It is of far greater in thickness and strength.
...Been in the funeral profession long time. There's a big differance.
That is sooooo heartbreaking! My deepest sympathy goes out to this mans' loved ones at his passing and this finding too...♥︎
Hello Kandi
Digging for answers :-) Way to go, news caster.
Incredibly bad taste
@@kpd3308yeah. I thought it was pretty insensitive. Smh.