Family exhumes remains, finds Clinton Township cemetery reburied debris, pieces of casket
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2022
- A Metro Detroit family had to go digging for answers after they were told a Clinton Township cemetery mistreated their father’s gravesite.
shout out to the worker who had the morals, character, integrity, empathy, and sympathy to notify the family when this occurred. It doesnt matter how often you handle caskets and bodies, you treat them with dignity- as if it was your own grave site. Let it slide and they think they get a pass.
My Heart goes out to the Family it's the Worst nightmare to even have to go back down memory lane with a Family Love One ,let Alone To have the find our that your visiting a non Love one grave ,MY God How Many More Family Are Being Mistreated Unhuman Care Of A Family Love One .This is Horrific And Should Be Handled In the most Sensitive Way With The most Respect ,Shame Shame They Wrote Speak To The Family .They Will Have To Use there Disrespectful Voice to the Gudge .God Is Watching Over Your Father ,Blessings And Prayers To This Lovely Family ,How Many More And How Much Pain Can One Handled Through This Non Professional Cementary .Shame Shame ,Don't Let it Happened To There Love One.What Goes Around Comes Back Double Shame.
As if I were your loved one's!! That was someone's son. A severe level of psychopathic behavior and a kin to taking someone's life. Pathetic people.
As someone who has worked many years in the UK funeral industry I can say for certain that I totally agree with everything that you have said in your comment on here. I alway's alway's told everyone that worked with me that you only get one chance of doing this the right way with respect and dignity, there's No do-overs when laying a loved one to rest.
@@simonr6793 its even worse though. He was already buried. I can't believe this is happening in America. This particular area is running rampant with misconduct especially in the handling of the deceased. It is bizarre to think that these things go on anywhere in the world.
"Let the dead bury their own dead"
- Jesus
This literally means let the spiritually dead worry about the physically dead that they're attached to.
"Your dead fathers not there lady it's just a pile of Bones".😂
I'm the Son of a funeral director, and I can tell you first hand that a lot of these cemeteries are run by some really shady people.
I'm dying to know more. 😏
i know of a cemetery on the other side of Michigan the guy that ran it was vary shady
Inspect and/or look up ratings of cemeteries prior to purchasing tombs, Graves and cremation disposition niches. Most are reputable but small older/private cemeteries may not have the required staffing for updating processes and maintenance requirements regarding cemetery concerns.
Soooooo Glad for the worker that couldn’t sleep without letting this family know.
There are all kinds of heroes....
A worker with Honor told the truth. bless him.
It’s not about normal wear n tear. It’s how you just dumped the debris and concrete on top of their father. Total disrespect. This is appalling
Clearly concrete & debris inside a casket is not from normal wear & tear! i have never seen or been inside a casket nor do i want to but how does concrete get inside a casket?
Probably when digging the new grave next to the family's graves caused the collapse not normal wear and tear.
@@eduardocruz4341 But concrete?
Exactly. The casket was damaged from the GARBAGE THEY PLACED ON TOP OF HIM. I am truly upset for this family. Unacceptable and our largest cemetery in our area where I planned to be laid to rest. Am rethinking my options now.
@@susanritchie4921 nowadays the coffins don't go into bare ground. You have to place a concrete vault in the burial hole then place the casket in the vault and seal it with a concrete lid so it won't float back up if the ground gets saturated with water like during a flood. The concrete may be from the old vault that was damaged from digging the new grave next to the father's.
I used to work as a caretaker in a cemetery and we accidentally broke open a crypt while digging an adjacent grave. It was an honest mistake by the backhoe operator. To correct the mistake, the cemetery contacted the sheriff's department, the county coroner, and the family about the incident. We then dug up the damage crypt, respectfully removed the casket, placed it in a new crypt, and reburied it. The family was not present (they opted not to be), but the county coroner did send an assistant as a witness to the exhumation and re-burial.
This cemetery is located very near a large lake and I will say that the casket was compromised. It was split open from the wood warping as water seeped into the crypt, so standard crypts only give so much protection from the elements and do deteriorate (more expensive crypts will last longer, but still will eventually breakdown). With that said, the cemetery should have contacted the family, had them present at the exhumation which would have given them the opportunity to replace the casket if it was so deteriorated, and then re-bury the remains in a new crypt. The actions here show that they were more worried about saving money than doing the right thing. Sad and inexcusable.
Excellent explanation!
I'm not taking sides. But doing it your way, given what you are telling us means this cemetery probably would have to do that for dozens or hundreds of sites, right?
@@Alvan81 No, just when an incident occurs which results in damaging an already interred occupant's grave in such a way that exposes the corpse. I am from Wisconsin and the procedure we followed is dictated by state and county law. It is to ensure that the breach was not criminal, like in the case of grave robbery or something more sinister.
Exactly. At the very least, they should have disposed of the garbage and old materials properly instead of throwing them on top of the poor guy and treating him like garbage. It's super disrespectful. I'm so glad someone found it in their heart to notify the family. I really question what else this cemetery might be doing that they shouldn't. This probably isn't the 1st time they've done this either sadly. Smh...shame on someone.
Agent j.
Respect to you. As for what you wrote totally spot on with everything you did. As someone who has worked many years in the UK funeral industry I know that what you said is the correct way to do thing, we all know accidents do happen and when water whether river/lake or even low-level underground water is involved these things do unfortunately happen more often than not. But Sir hats off to you for handling your own situation in the right professional manner.
"Let the dead bury their own dead"
- Jesus
This literally means let the spiritually dead worry about the physically dead that they're attached to.
"Your dead fathers not there lady it's just a pile of Bones".😂
My bf mother died & was buried in Jamaica in 2010. A few years back they contacted the cemetery about a tombstone. But we were told that they don't know what plot is hers. Apparently they cemented over the plot number so now we don't know which one is hers. One would think you would count over from the last number that is legible....sorry to hear about this family. I can imagine how devastating this must be.
Man, that's so messed up! I'm very sorry about that.
As a Jamaican, I can confirm that this happens with some frequency. it happened with my uncle's grave. It is partly because the cemetery workers mix concrete on the graves of others. You see, when a person is buried, the custom is mix and cover the grave right there at the graveside as part of the proceedings. When the cement cures and dries, what is left is just a flat cemented slab covering the entire grave. A year or so after, a tomb is supposed to be placed on the grave. The problem is that many wait years before they finish the grave and tombstone with granite etc. and so when others are buried, sometimes the idiotic workers, mix the cement on top of an old grave which destroys any markings on the grave.
Did the same thing with my father!
This is horrific. My sympathy goes out to the family involved.
I am pretty certain this wasn't a one off incident which must be terribly distressing for anybody who has a loved one buried there.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
Someone was honest enough to take pictures, they need a pat on the back.
And a few beers 🍻
@@flyingled3176 this bud is for them .
Money is better, everyone has bills
The field of culprits is very low as he's one of the grave-digging team there... and he's pictured others in frame so they're out of it.
@@anitakristensen4679 nice big tokes
I wanna give a shout out to the Person Responsible For Telling the Absolute Truth, and doing the Right, And Honorable Thing by sending the Pictures to the family, and making them aware of Whats Happened to their Loved Ones...
You Did the Right Thing 👏 👍💯 🇺🇸 Thank You 🇺🇸
Totally true! Hip hip. Hooray! To that guy who told.
Id rather not know that they were disrespectful of my loved ones grave.My loved one is only the body in the grave.They left the body and moved on.This would just make me upset at their death all over again.Regrief id call it.
There's hope yet for humanity.
Nah, he created unnecessary trauma for the family. The cemetery collected the remain including the coffin and placed it in a new vault.
M@@mikemcbain4250
How horrifying! I’m so glad that this story made it to the news. The grief and anger that the daughter expressed made me want to go hug her. 🥺 I would have been outraged and upset too.
Your name says you stink I wouldn’t want to be next to you
Dead is dead.
A story that serves only to detract you from the real issues.
@@b0rd3n correct. Nothing wrong was done. That grave had deteriorated obviously and the few remains were reburied it’s quite common. How is that disrespectful? People can be such self righteous idiots lol
@@b0rd3n Like throwing trash and concrete shards in with the busted open casket.
When my Dad was Buried at a National Veterans Cemetery I stayed around after the Grave Side Service and was Shocked when they Dumped a bunch of broken headstones on top of his Casket and when I asked why they said that it is common practice at all Cemeteries to fill the holes with left over Cemetery Debris.
Maintenance they said, as they buried debris and trash on her father's corpse. She needs to sue the hell out of them.
The coffin itself naturally deteriorated due to seepage, so I don't blame them for that. But there was no excuse for them to throw the pieces of the old vault in there. The cemetery workers were just being lazy and didn't want to properly dispose of it.
I would rather have my coffin rebured than have the coffin dumped in a trash dumpster.
Workers knew it was wrong… hence the pictures. Sad😢
@@margaret-ellenadams5536 it was probably someone new. Probably a millennial
You read my mind
@@Dularr right, because the generations who raised them NEVER cut corners. Oh wait
"Believe what we say, not what you see!"
So sorry for the family's pain & sorrow
"Dead men tell no tales, but cameras do."
Wonderful woman. Her parents are looking down with pride. I wish her and her family serenity and strength. 🙏
We all know no one can “ look down”.
I worked in a cemetery for years. People asked at times to be buried in a family plot that was already full. (12) bodies in the plot. They said, “there can’t be anything left after all these years.” In old graves with no vaults there is only some wood, metal and a few bones left. I’ve dug graves next to an old grave in a family plot. You can see a faint line about a 1/2 thick of color. That’s all that’s left of the body and coffin after all those years. Basically nothing, the ground sinks and we added more dirt to the surface to keep it level. The vaults, are so the ground doesn’t sink when the coffin collapses. Although a new grave will sink for 3 years as it settles. I’ve seen vaults that have broken open under ground. I’ve smelt the body juices and embalming fluid that will run out of a cracked vault when we dug in the grave next to it. I’ve been in double deep graves with the sides of vaults on both sides of me and on each end. N,S,E,W around you. I guarantee the vault broke open from ground water seeping in and the casket deteriorated. They picked up the pieces and put them in a new vault. Although we never put any deteriorated coffins in new vaults. I’ve dug bodies up to move them at the behest of family. I’ve moved whole vaults and just bodies. I’ve seen skulls, bones, bits of clothing and metal. I used to think being buried was some what respectful and clean. It’s not. I am going to be cremated. I don’t want to be under groundwater while my coffin deteriorates. I remember a girl whose mother was buried in the winter. A winter grave will sink a few feet by spring. She swore someone desecrated her mother’s grave. She wouldn’t listen to anything. She thought she was an expert on burying people all of a sudden.
"Body juices" ! Man , you made my day with that one 😁😁😁
Interesting
I had a friend, God rest his soul, who worked in a grave yard back in the 80s. He told me similar stories. Being a graveyard worker is no fun.
There’s turnover and I don’t just mean employment.🤦🏻♂️
A grave should not sink ‘a few feet’ over the winter if properly filled. Maybe a hole you just haphazardly plopped some dirt on top of to fill, but the hole is only 5 feet deep total, and the vault with lid is usually about 3 feet tall.There are cemeteries out there that sink their graves with water to speed up the process of Mother Nature, and others that use tamping equipment to repack the soil, and even lay the sod back down over top when the weather permits.
Thats illegal to bury one on top another in the same grave unless the first one was buried like 10ft down, atleast where I live unless it a side by side companion plot or if you are talking urns there can be several. Had some ahole grave diggers try that with my grandma, instead of burying her next to her husband in the empty plot they went a row back and two or three over. They had it dug and were going to put her ontop of her mother in law! My mother and I showed up just in time. They had to fill it in and redig were they were supposed to. In the meantime we had to tell them to park the hearse in the shade bc they had it parked in the mid july sun! Didnt notice until after the funeral but they had taken up all or granite cornerstones and had buried them in the grave too!
As other comments have stated --the maintenance crew probably broke this vault and quickly covered it up by throwing all the pieces into an 'extra' one the cemetary had on-site.... then mangement tried to cover up the 'hurry-up' job by lying.
Telling the truth and apologizing for the maintenance mistake AT THE TIME IT HAPPENED would've cost this cemetary a lot less then the lawsuit will.
Funeral Homes and Cemetery’s have had their issues in the past. One cemetery was flooded, coffin’s floated away and left further away from the cemetery.
It wasn’t discovered until someone noticed a coffin where it wasn’t supposed to be.
@@davidfromamerica1871 the tristate thing was just aweful.I think they put that guy inprison for it all.It was north Georgia i think.
"Maybe."
How dreadful this poor family,,,let them away with absolutely u,,god bless you all from IRELAND
My scoutmaster worked moving graves when they expanded mound road in late 50s. He told us most of the old coffins fell apart and had to be shoveled up. Now they are offering liqufication of the deceased. I think that when its my time would rather be cremated and tossed into the Detroit River. Even cemetary urns can end up as scrap metal today.
It's very irresponsible & heartless to do this to a deceased person's gravesite. At least the person who got evidence had a heart. I hope the family can get their justice.
Good bless the man who seen and said something
Most gravesites are only maintained about 50 years! Many cities build over graveyards!
Right the people thought it was so bad they secretly sent them the pictures that right there really speaks volumes on how wrong this was
Justice for what?
@@justinsimpson3000 Please tell me what matters once you are in the dirt?
Oh hell no. Just unbelievable. This was not “maintenance”. The family conducted themselves incredibly well. I can imagine that a lot of us would not have been able to be so gracious.
you / we only saw what was decided you would / could see
I’m so sorry for this family.
This is heart breaking for the families. I thank the person who sent the family pictures of their father's burial plot. Please keep us up to date on the progress of this investigation.🌹🌹
We NEED to reward people when they bring something like this to light.
I’m so sorry this happened to this family.
I'm from a small town. The people that are still alive and live there are always at the cemetery caring for family at least once a week.
There is sadness in me that when the last few pass on it may turn into a forgotten cemetery. But the respect instilled in me for the dead in my upbringing makes me so angry to see this happen to this family and many others.
Doing this to any human is evil, but doing it to a veteran???? I am disgusted. So glad this came to light.
My Uncle was a monk in a very strict order. He was buried on a board wrapped in linen. His grave was dug somewhere on the property of the Monastery and his burial place is unmarked and will be forgotten over time. I sometimes wonder at the humanity and grace of this submission to eternity.
'Do not stand at my grave and weep
I am not there I do not sleep
I am a thousand winds that blow....'
That's beautiful Owen.
So many get tied up by their worth based on religion (Christians especially) which the funeral business loves to exploit. In my family, we do cremations and spread ashes in beautiful places we enjoyed while we lived. There's record of every death, no headstone is necessary to show you once lived on this earth. Digital cemeteries exist now too, everyone is accounted for. I won't leave anything behind for my family to have to tend. Life is for the living. 🌻☀
@@Mandy7D7 as a Christian myself I would say Christians are less obsessed with what happens to there bodies after death. I plan on cremation and scattering of ashes with no headstone. I had some Catholic family that insisted on embalming, body viewing, burial and headstones so maybe a Catholic thing but the majority of Christians I know are not concerned with this temporary vessel our soul is contained in.
@@nancid5265 Underground, the body relatively soon turns to dirt. Sure, some can last thousands of years, but most are little more than dirt within fifty or a hundred years. So, those old bodies aren't going to be resurrected. The main thing to focus on is the fact you have everlasting life in another form. The body is of the Earth and will soon return to it. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
@@nancid5265 Do you think there are any bodies from 2,000 years ago that were buried? Plants did not exist before the sun, moon and stars. The bible is a work of fiction.
@@the_gilded_age_phoenix8717there you are wrong.
Our bodies will be resurrected but the Lord does not the earthly body for the resurrection. We will be resurrected from the dust of the earth if our physical bodies have returned to the earth.
That’s what returning to the earth means….not that our bodies are put in the earth but that they break down and become one with the earth.
And from that very earth our glorified bodies will arise when the Lord comes again,
At least that’s what will happen to believes. Unbelievers will rose to resurrection of judgment…eternal death.
This was absolutely heartbreaking to hear the daughter talk about her father's right to a dignified burial was a lot to take in my heart goes out to this family and I hope everything gets straightened out soon! ... RIP 🌹❤️🌹
Digging for answers :-) Way to go, news caster.
Unbelievable...
Judges don’t issue orders for “extensive inaccuracies”. Some people really are despicable and have no morals at all.
They must have been democrats 😀
@@omfug8593 wow, that was an intellectual response coming from someone who likely has a 9th grade education. Dems and Republicans are both the same kind of evil, only difference being that usually the Republicans are the less educated of the two. ☺️
Right! I mean just look at that poor man's casket...wow. Filled with rubbish it's deplorable 😟
None!
And it's a Catholic cemetery 😡😳🙄
I can't even imagine what they are going through. I recently lost my dad. But at least i know where he's buried. This is horrible. Poor people.. 💔😡
Amy, I am so very sorry for your loss of your Dad. 💔💐
I’m sorry for your loss Amy. I lost my mother in 2009. I know it’s very hard!
Im sorry for your loss Amy. I lost my dad in 2019 and my mom in 2021. May ur dad rest in peace
@@moonshadow3946 Aw Thanks so much. I miss him terribly.. 💔
@@Eddie2425 Thanks so much. I still miss him but at least i stopped crying all the time. I do miss him tho. I feel for people who have to deal with stuff like this. I'd freak out..
They need steep sentences for these violations
This is why my gradfather, father, uncle, and all my family's cats we've lost are cremated. WE are in control of what happens to our loved ones.
I’m so sorry for the family. WTH? 😢
The family sleeps on memory foam. I feel sorry for the dad. He sleeps under rubble and debris.
These vaults cost the family in times of grief. They should've been done right. Lawsuit for a new one. The coffin and remains are ruined. Make them pay.
@@sheliabattle1129 My mother had a debilitating terminal disease, and according to her, she purchased an inclusive burial contract for all the items needed at the time of her death. This supposedly included casket, memorial service, burial, and the burial plot directly beside her to be used for the first death of her children. She paid for these services on this contract for years, had it paid off way before her death, and informed us children her burial would be completely paid for at her death and we should not incur any other financial burdens to be paid by any of us. Two of us (one being the executrix of momma's will), went to the funeral home to start mothers burial.. We had momma's will and her burial contract showing all paid off, and all we needed to do was contact them. They proceeded to try get us to "upgrade" her casket, add additional flowers, provide more music, more chairs, add a larger marble headstone that could include to person to be buried next to her at a later date, for a much higher cost. We declined all as we told them, our mother had already planned her funeral, and we were going to stay with her final wishes. Then, came the "extra price" for the concrete vault required by Texas law, stating all coffins must be enclosed into a concrete vault. This was many years ago, and the price then was $800, paid before said burial. The executrix asked why this wasn't covered by her contract, and they stated, "(the concrete vault), probable wasn't required by the state at the time she bought the contract". Watch out for "fine print", "requirements by your home state", and, if these extra things are covered by their contract. The time when your loved one dies is extremely stressful, and there ae some employed by the funeral home to take advantage of the family's desires to "get the best for momma/daddy/son/daughter". Think realistically. When a parent or child purchases a burial contract, have someone go with them to ensure all requirements are addressed, and all desires are included in the contract, and if not , why not. Funerals are BIG BUSINESS! Don't get caught by the short hairs! Thank you for reading!
@@AvoidTheseMemes I bet that rattled his ghost.
@@sheliabattle1129 Especially with all the money they put into it.
I.ve worked in cemetery maintenance for 15 years doing burials like this . Someone in that cemetery screwed up . This is totally unacceptable for the crew that did this and for the cemetery themselves for allowing this to happen . My sincere apologies to the family for having to deal with this from a cemetery and their shoddy maintenance crew . SMH
I always wanted to work in a cemetery but I never had a chance to do it I have been working in a restaurant.for.thirtty years
@@maribelmaldonado252 ... It's not to bad actually . It's considered one of the most difficult jobs . It will humble you .
@Trump Hilter ... No , double deck vaults in ground . Most in the cemeteries are single plots .
Any scary stories while working in a cemetery?
"Screwed up?" More than one person HAD to know about this. I always see 5 or so working graveside.
Every person should be treated with respect and dignity! 🙏
Disturbing!!! People can be so evil!!! I am sorry for the family to go through this situation!!!
Wow,this is appalling. How do you do this to a family who paid for a proper burial?
Shouldn't be done to anyone...PERIOD!!!
We spend tons of money burying our love ones in these cemeteries and this stuff happens like it’s nothing pure Disgusting
Thankfully we do not put stock in dead remains. If you believe in an afterlife, (not saying people have to believe that), you're not concerned about dead flesh as you know the person's spirit and soul are with Christ.
@@thewordrules I understand this but it's about respecting the dead. The term "proper burial" means something and the financial cost of said burial is very expensive as I'm sure you already know.
Caskets can become compromised for any number of reasons, even in a crypt, and even because of bad choices on the cemetery owners part. Why is it actually worth that money? It's not, but it can be because people pay it and American funerals are an industry. Grandma deserves the luxury silk casket lining, right?
@@tashacherry1480 Its expensive because of preying on sentimentality and ignorance of chemcial, ecological processes/entropy.
Name any other situation where you would bury something in the ground and expect it to 'survive' in any kind of good condition. There is absolutely nothing positive that is gonna come from digging up remains from 30 years ago. Under ANY circumstances.
"if they wouldn't have gotten those photos, they wouldn't have known..."
Just another business day in 🇺🇸
This is why I'm going to be buried in a little country cemetery in West Virginia that isn't owned by some corporation. Unfinished pine box, no embalming, wearing a pair of Levis, a flannel shirt, and my work boots.
So sorry 😢
My mom, sister, and great niece are buried side by side at this cemetary. I live in NC, and return home each year, and of course I pay a visit to them each summer. This has always been a very well run and beautiful cemetary. My heart breaks for this daughter.
I'm from Va., live in N.C. and the cemetery where my parents are buried made the news a few years ago because the vault trucks wrecked a few graves during a rainy period. I understand your feelings about your family's graves.
I pray for the deceased and their family. Sending our love your way 🙌🏼
they're dead get over it .
Trash in the casket? Sounds very suspicious. I hope the family sues and gets honest answers
To the cemetery owner/operator regarding their issued statement, my family response would have been "horse hockey!"
My Lord, not even the dead are respected in these days.
You respect people that are alive - not rotten bones.
@@paulsawczyc5019 ok, then I respectfully remind you that your day is coming soon!
@@tbolton6156 I have always respected people that tell the truth! - and please spend $10,ooo on me while I am alive - not when I'm dead.
@@paulsawczyc5019 then the "truth" is you are not my responsibility. Better do like the rest of us, get your a$$ some life insurance.
Read up about disgusting people molesting corpses. There's at least two that used 100 or more. Nasty.
Not to mention Arthur Rathburn. The Body Broker. This is NOTHING compared to chopping them up and selling the components to medical schools/hospitals/ and universities.
All of whom are right in on it.
Look up Tri State. I'll take this over Tri state ANY day.
Thank you to the person that took those photos and sent them to the family. You are a unknown hero. Not every hero saves babies from burning buildings or is a soldier. But hero's come in many ways and many different situations.
Hey... hello how are you doing?
As a grave digger, I can tell you what happened. They were digging a grave next to him and damaged his vault AND coffin both, then tried to cover it up.
What can you say? It’s disgusting what that family had to go through.
That's so heartbreaking .Thank you to the person who sent the photos.I can't imagine going through this.
I took my Grandmother's remains to be inturned in my grandfather's burial vault with him . And during the ceremony there were crews removing caskets from the ground and putting them on a flatbed truck. I couldn't understand what the heck they were doing. And then after the ceremony we were all leaving when a forklift came down the path and the casket it was carrying fell apart spilling the remains of a long deceased woman onto the path . It was a horrible thing to have happen but even more so in front of 75-80 people who just attended a service for a loved one. Worse yet was it wasn't the only casket to crumble and the remains of it's occupant to hit the path. I know this because right after seeing the woman's remains fall out onto the path I was crossing a 2nd path on my way to my car when I noticed a lower jaw complete with teeth laying next to the curb. I went to the cemetery office and notified them .
What a horrific experience for you to see all that! It shouldn't happen in America. Sounds like the cemetery from hell. ..like it couldn't be real ... except in a horror movie. But seeing is believing so I am sorry you had to see all that. ✝️😔
😱
@@lissainlenoir - It shouldn’t happen anywhere.
Sounds weird, is it really true, I don't believe it.
W T F
I was an apprentice plumber and I worked with this old journeyman. He told me that "We perform our job and we do it correctly to the standard in the industry because we owe it to them. They paid for it."
People work hard for their money they deserve what they paid for. Do your job.
My goodness. Bless their hearts.
One of the many reasons folks no longer go for the expensive traditional casket and vault. Now they just cremate the remains and scatter them for a fraction of the cost and no more desecration issues.
Its also disgusting what is done to the body prior to the viewing. I want to be cremated immediately with no interference by a mortician.
@@pegs1659 What? Who do you think is operating the crematorium and the cremulator (bone crusher)?
And respectfully, SOME things you'll want done. See Ask a Mortician. You'll see.
You don't need embalming, tho and several other things. You can do a viewing with dry ice in your home, too. Just like the old days.
My heart goes out to this family. This is so disrespectful and how many others are like this???? Whoever runs this cemetery needs to be prosecuted
Even in death this man still fights for the rights of his fellow human beings what a legend
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
"A family is digging for answers?" Thats so wrong.
That’s just sad and disrespectful these Funeral Homes are some snakes and they make all that money smh my heart breaks for them
The funeral homes and cemeteries are separate entities so don't blame the funeral homes.
No Really I didn’t know that your so smart but wait a minute didn’t the funeral home put the man on the cheap casket they caved in so easily there’s people been buried for years and this don’t happen so shhhhh
@@diamondzrain1216 Yes the funeral home places the body in a casket and transports it to the cemetery but typically the cemetery will provide the vault. Regardless, somehow the vault was compromised whether from degradation or abuse by the cemetery workers which caused the damage to the casket. So again, do not blame the funeral home.
@@diamondzrain1216 The family or the person themselves purchased a “cheap casket”. It’s not the funeral homes fault. They did what they were told. Plus nothing lasts forever.
@@diamondzrain1216 I'm sorry to say but the person you're talking to about this is totally correct in what there telling you. Regardless of how much the coffin cost the vault is the responsibility of the cemetery and for your comment about it being the only one I'd be amazed if it was the only one.
I’m so very sorry this happened to your family!! Your dad and mom deserved a proper burial!! Praying for your family and friends!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Funk...lol..lol..you sound nasty..
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@@waynebfr8953 as someone who is not religious nor believes in a God, Imma just say you really need to learn to respect those who do. Even if there is or isn't a God, for some its a symbol of hope that death isn't the end, and that people will see their loved ones again. It's a comfort. Sit back down, kid.
Hello Rhonda
So heartbreaking.
This is unimaginable! Sorry to the family, well done to the person who saw this was wrong. 👍
SORRY THIS HAPPENED TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ! "THANK YOU" TO THE PERSON THAT SENT THE PICTURES ! PRAYING FOR YOU AND YOUR !❤️
Lower the caps and be more respectful.
God bless that employee who took pictures and said this is so wrong, the family needs to know. The scary thing how many other graves have been messed with 🤔
Absolutely. The infuriating part is they persist in denying ANY wrongdoing(while trying to make themselves out to be altruistic martyrs). My Mom died when I was 23 and the hospice nurse called a funeral home themoment she died and they showed up fast and wiskdd away my Mom's body. When the guy shook my hand and said, "I'm sorry for your loss...", I had a flash of him reciting this line in front of his mirror. My Mom's little sister fired them promptly and had Mom transferred out of their care. God bless.
@@buck4yergold498 This is interesting. The nurse didn't ask the family to notify their funeral home, she took it upon herself to call one of her choosing?
@@fifty9forty3 Yes. My aunt thought that the hospice nurse may have gotten a kickback for getting that funeral home out so fast to take the body. Most people may just go along with it in that grieving state. But my aunt is the corporate type(head of Dayton Hudson auditing dept in 80's doing all audits of the Target stores across the country). She smelled a rat 🐀... Im so glad she fired them and had Mom moved.
Buck: Thank you for getting back to me.
The nurse was taking advantage of you in grief.
That's sick my heart goes out to that family
This is terrible💔....I would never have any of my family buried again.
So sad! I wasn’t expecting to see all that debris in the poor man’s coffin. May he Rest In Peace. I hope the family gets closure.
How does sharing the casket with bits of wood affect how the corpse is resting?
@@iananderson3799 it's not just that but the pieces of concrete from the broken vault that they piled on top of it
This is so sacrilegious. Can’t imagine the added pain.🙏🏼
Sacrilegious? Please show me any Christian Document that supports that claim?
I am so sorry 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Another reason I am really liking the idea of being composted and used to repair old growth forest.
Miscommunication???? How do you misunderstand burying garbage (the compromised urn that out of the"goodness of his heart didn't want to pay for disposal of) in the same place of your loved one!
Nope, smh, should've called the family and just told them what was up. I'm sure they would've gladly paid to correct the issue.
In an IDEAL WORLD.. we're talking about perhaps an illegal paid 10 bucks to dig the holes and couldn't read English..so many businesses hire people who are desperate to earn 10 or 20 bucks!
Why does it matter?? It’s going in the ground
@@daviddillardjohnson1095 it may not matter to you, but surely you have enough emotional intelligence to know that your feelings about a subject aren't the only ones that matter in the world.
Why should THEY have to pay...? Let the church handle it. They're rich and it's their fault.
@@SwaggerChiick1 obviously it matters to others. I’m only asking why
How do you do this to someone!? Not even looking at the fact that this family probably paid a lot of money to have their loved ones final resting place in this cemetery, but even if it were a pauper's grave you shouldn't do this! I'm absolutely glad we had our Mom cremated because this is literally my fear come to life!
Cremation is the best method to honor a loved one and pets.
Cremation is absolutely the best option in terms of cost and after life harm. It's so unfortunate people cannot be trusted to do what's right, not even after death.
@@VirgoCatleesi the problem with cremation is that they mix all the ashes together. The urn that you receive has other people's remains mixed in.
This is outrageously wrong! Congratulations to the person who sent the pictures to the family. You did the right thing !
This is so common, you have no idea what cemeteries do, most graves leak, and the coffins are filled with water and other things, the coffins rust, and rot and the vaults crack, and no one will ever know, cremation is the best answer to all of this!
Coffins do not rust because they are mostly made of wood but Caskets will rust as they are made of metal.
Yes cremation is definitely the way to go in the future.
@@mariuskuhrau761 Rotting or rusting it's a complete waste of money, time and effort!
My mom and dad pre-planned their funeral and at that time the church was building a mausoleum and they had a reasonable price for plots, or vaults as they called the above-ground place of rest, so they went with it. So far so good.
But sadly I have seen videos here on YT where funeral homes had been abandoned and remains are still inside to be buried, or placed in an abandoned mausoleum. Does anybody know if there is a law made since that if remains are found to be buried, there has to be a proper burial for those remains? It just is disrespectful to the dead and makes you wonder if another funeral home is permitted to sign on to the job if the people who run the first funeral home take off, leaving remains behind.
I remember hearing too about incomplete or excessive embalming fluid being used certain places and it made the body unfit for a viewing. It makes you wonder how some undertakers can do that. Some people have also found coffins and mausoleum drawers leaking after an improper embalming and as the remains break down, there is a leak.
All I can say is take your time and check out funeral homes well to make sure you feel secure about the place that does the preparation and care of your loved one. It's best to pre-plan if you can. My parents were far from rich, but they were able to pay off their final resting spot so that it didn't come to chaos when a loved one passed.
@@tuxitalk1World No, no pre-planning. Don't pay up-front. After that, your money is GONE. If the owners die or leave it, good luck getting your money back.
They'll claim you owe more $$$, too, after the fact.
Green burial.
So sad. How many others are like that??
Are you serious?!
Look at historical cemeteries, not to mention archeological sites that are dug up and/or moved each year.
Capitalism at it's finest...
Cemeteries sell out to other companies which in turn sell out to different companies.
Bottomline, cremation seems to be the best way to make sure one's remains are placed where one wishes them to be, without the chance of them being dug up at a later date.
That is horrific and what a horrendous experience for the family. It’s unbelievable all that money you pay out. To lay your parents to rest and this is how you find them. Absolutely no dignity a huge disrespect to the parents and the family put through such a disgraceful experience. What is wrong with funeral directors in America. The horror stories just get worse.
Props to the anonymous photo sender. I would be so deeply grateful!
Also so that means every vault that has been replaced will look just like that, imagine how many people are gonna have this done just to find out.
Who tf cares
@@daviddillardjohnson1095 who tf pissed in your punch? Why tf are you so cranky?
Thank god for the whistleblower. You did the right thing.
How terrible, God bless this family with some kind of peace
They filled a man's casket with garbage??? What happened to the remains? Were they UNDER all that debis?
No, they replaced the broken vault with a new one and filled the new vault with the broken casket and remains of the deceased. Seems like something I wouldn’t have wanted to deal with anyway.
Yes
@@imdifferentMr843 Why does it even matter
@@daviddillardjohnson1095 , do or did you love your dad?
@@tomcloss9764 Yeah but I don’t care if he or my own body has some stuff on it 30 years after we die. I thought it would all be dirt by then anyways
My heart goes out to them!! It looks like vault was open. That vault should have protected the casket. Now I'm worried on my dad. So very sorry again.
Many people cremate. Honestly, this probably seems insensitive to you. But once someone has passed, they are no longer here. People are way too sensitive nowadays. Cremation not only saves space in the world, but it’s what should be done. Imagine 100yrs from now with a population exponentially growing and all this space taken up by buried boxes of bones….
@@AshtrayAnnie
Respect the living.
Respect the dead.
Anyone who falls short of both lacks empathy and should take a long hard look at themselves!
@John Connor You're ridiculous! You seem a little off your rocker. She has a "right" to make a comment. She didn't say what you "should" do. She merely commented on the other option MANY ppl choose instead of burial. It wasn't a dictation and cremation is NOT by force! " Cremation is the doorway to hell" Oh really? So burial must be the doorway to heaven. I sure hope you weren't banking on that Homer! The person u were and the way you lived your life here on this earth would determine that, not what is done with your body after death. Ridiculous!
@@op3488 You should reread what I said in both comments. You’ll realize I respect both, when most do not. The dead don’t care where they are buried. The dead don’t need a 15k casket. Stop thinking you understand death. You clearly do not if you don’t understand this.
@@op3488 How about respect other ppls opinions. You do not have to agree. There is nothing wrong with choosing to be cremated if that is your choice! There is nothing disrepectful about that.
Very disrespectful, shame on them!!
What an outrage ! The family has to relive their parents burial all over again ! Unreal ....
It seems like someone wanted to avoid paying to dispose of trash. Someone who had access to digging equipment, and permission of the groundskeeper. I would be tearing up more graves. This is not a one off.
It was not actual trash. It was pieces of the broken vault and casket. Come on now.
If people REALLY knew what goes on in funeral homes and cemeteries they'd spin out of control.
Spending thousands of dollars to bury a loved one and then trusting these strangers with your loved one's remains is insane.
It'll never be exposed because the industry is too large and corrupt and the consequences cannot even be imagined.
It's sick.
I made a lot of money off cemetery service stocks the last few years...please keep quiet.
@@AgentXaos you work for Cruelty Squad Headquarters!?!
As a director i feel i need to say that the grand majority of us are NOT like that. My heart is crying for this family and that man, and neither myself or anyone i would associate with would dream of giving any less then the upmost care and respect to everyone that walk into my funeral home. Living or deceased.
However it must be said that yeah, there is unfortunately alot of unscrupulous people in this business aswell and its no secret that it has historically been corrupt. If you feel like the funeral home isnt showing the respect deserved then please do take your loved somewhere else. It dosnt matter if the funeral home is or is not doing what theyre supposed to, if you are not at peace with them dont let it go because you will spend the rest of your life questioning that feeling.
BUT also i would ask you give us a chance to prove that we arent all like that and to not generalize us that way too terribly much. Protecting your loved ones will always come first, as they should, but people dont need that added level of stress while dealing with us of wondering how the funeral home is abusing their loved one or taking advantage of them. Grief is hard enough, last thing i want is a family to feel they have to be on guard around me when my job is to make this easier for them to make it through.
Again, im not trying to argue that you shouldnt be aware of bad actors. Only that most of us only want to help. Lord knows we dont do it for our health, and honestly knowing that every single day i go into work will be a fresh memory of someones sorrow, or another nightmare I'll have of a child, doesnt exactly get me jumping out of bed. Knowing that their families need a guide does.
@@AgentXaos Sociopath
SCI will get ya
I've dug up coffins twenty years old that couldn't hold the body inside when raised. Steel and wood like a sponge.
God bless the family and the person who sent those photos. 😭 ❤️
How low can our humanity devolve? Someone needs to be held accountable.
Pretty low..look how they dig up mummies or others and take them from they're resting places and display them for people to gawk at. Like it's ok because they died so long ago. Just as disrespectful.
@@michellehawkins1027 Yes! That is inhumane.
It's better to cremate, My husband and daughter still live with me even though they have passed away My 8 week old grandson lives with his parents. I was terrified that something like this would happen to them if they were buried. My heart bleeds for the family, Absolutely heartbreaking.
This is not the 1st time I have heard of something like this
A picture is worth a thousand words. Good luck with the cemetery's explanation that all that trash was from the casket collapsing.
Blessings to that person who notified the family!!!
Very sad, brings a teardrop on my face.
I looked after a cemetery for almost fifty years. All caskets in our cemetery are always placed in a concrete vault . This should have never happened if the casket was in a concrete vault in the first place
I was looking into buying plots in city owned, historic cemetery sites and I wondered why they required a cement vault, even for burying ashes. I thought it was an unnecessary expense but I understand it now 🤔
In Illinois, most cemeteries insist on it. But you can go green burial.
It was!!!! It broke and caved the casket lid in. Thats what that conctete pieces are inside the casket. They put the casket in a new vault but did not bother to remove the vault lid and casket lid that broke and fell in.
@@sweetcheeks89 she should have looked over this video for 50 years and she might have picked up on that.
The vault company used substandard concrete for the vault. Cremation for my family.
WOW! Great reporting!
Oh my god...I can't believe this...unreal..smh
So inexcusable! That's outrageous.