What Happened To Fnatic?

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  • Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
  • In December last year, we got very excited about the return of Rekkles to Fnatic.
    It was the team that birthed his career and after breaking up for two years, they were finally reunited.
    But Fnatic has just had their worst split ever and now this had turned into a painful reminder of why you should never call your ex…
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 312

  • @phoenixflamegames1
    @phoenixflamegames1 Рік тому +510

    I remember when I started playing league and my friend told me they were the best team. Makes me sad to see them fall THIS hard.....

    • @zStC1
      @zStC1 Рік тому +26

      @Kimi Timoskainen better put the proper respect on my boy Soaz. Can't mention peke without soaz

    • @kappachino3431
      @kappachino3431 Рік тому +6

      @@zStC1 soaz and peke doing magic trick breaking ankle everywhere

    • @rgs1803
      @rgs1803 Рік тому +9

      They were the best team.... until asians come along lmao

    • @hejxber
      @hejxber Рік тому +4

      @@rgs1803 🤨 sounded kinda racist but yeah

    • @diaboles
      @diaboles Рік тому +1

      @FaceFish9 do you do remember the team with rekkless hitting both semi and world finals back to back? you can say rekkless has shit form atm but there is no way the peak fnatic didnt have him on it [2017-18]
      I still think in the world finals they should have played soaz over bwipo but hindsight is 20/20 [worlds 2018] yeah its long gone but you cant discount what they did at the time

  • @flaviuspopa160
    @flaviuspopa160 Рік тому +739

    Rekkles to G2 was the biggest mistake he did in his entire career

    • @WhitWolfOkami
      @WhitWolfOkami Рік тому +89

      Nah back then he still had the opportunity to add to his legacy, now with his return to the LEC he can only burn it down

    • @Eliagiulio
      @Eliagiulio Рік тому +13

      I stay awake at night imagining the 2021 Summer Roster with Rekkles

    • @rwwars6948
      @rwwars6948 Рік тому +76

      That's also the biggest g2 mistake. Taking in reckless

    • @johnnyairplane2896
      @johnnyairplane2896 Рік тому +23

      @@rwwars6948 Yes. This was a mistake for both parties.

    • @cerberus8462
      @cerberus8462 Рік тому +2

      Well money was good so

  • @sanketower
    @sanketower Рік тому +382

    Carlos was right. Wunder was sent there to destroy Fnatic from the inside.

    • @sander9209
      @sander9209 Рік тому +105

      fnatic send rekkles to destroy g2 from the inside aswell, but g2 realised it faster than fnatic did and now fnatic has both of them

    • @faboschkayt6604
      @faboschkayt6604 Рік тому +9

      @@sander9209underrated comment tbh

    • @GinkgoPete
      @GinkgoPete Рік тому +13

      Carlos is never right about anything lol

    • @jimmyn7t
      @jimmyn7t Рік тому +1

      @@GinkgoPete that's kinda statistically wrong but ok

    • @k1eptoFTW
      @k1eptoFTW Рік тому +1

      @@GinkgoPete Except he is the guy who made hundreds of millions of dollars and created one of the biggest Esports orgs from ground up... But sure just because you disagree with his opinions that means that he has accomplished nothing

  • @iitstre_4550
    @iitstre_4550 Рік тому +142

    I’ll say Rekkles definitely looks ROUGH! But I think this comes down more to other pieces than Rekkles, Rhuckz seems lost a lot, Razork also seems like he just kinda flails and gets lucky. And then Rekkles being older makes trying to put this team together just feels like a tall order.

    • @Qutut
      @Qutut Рік тому +7

      Rhuckz doesn't have any good comfort because Melee supports are so weak rn.
      Razork has to basically do shotcalling and cope with both Rekkles AND Wunder wanting to play Weakside.
      And Humanoid just looks like he just can not be arsed.

    • @tuandungnguyen2025
      @tuandungnguyen2025 Рік тому +2

      yea Fnatic as a whole looked rough not just Rekkless alone

    • @Hadwerd7
      @Hadwerd7 Рік тому

      I dont get why they went with Rhuckz, the guy had two okay games in play ins. Hes 26 so hes not going to improve much either. They shouldnt have listened to their community when they called for hyllie to be replaced with rhuckz

    • @lixlux8887
      @lixlux8887 Рік тому

      Rekkles looks a bit shaky on many plays, still seems fine though however he can't compete with the top adcs of the league, I think with upset they would've at least made play offs maybe even gotten up to 6th place somewhere depending on how well Upset would've established himself in the team. supp however is pretty much absolute dog, they rarely ever use hard meta bot lanes and well y Razork had a few good games, mostly bad games though and he rarely plays for bot which is again not Meta. Top and mid mostly perform pretty well but they are not able to carry and have int games themselves. I think if everyone played like rekkles they would've made 7th or 8th place but not with that supp and the lack of bot lane pressure. I assume rekkles might retire(at least from lec) if nothing drastic changes until the end of the season .

    • @lixlux8887
      @lixlux8887 Рік тому

      ​@@Hadwerd7they did WHAT? replace one of the best(even though often kinda inty) supps in the lec if not the world with Rhuckz? RHUCKZ? Wtf.

  • @xialix9652
    @xialix9652 Рік тому +14

    FNC has so much money, yet their management sucks. Idc what ppl say about G2 but you gotta admit that their management and staff are amazing and the players are always really happy. Having a good mental is a huge part of competitive sports. Letting their player take all the blame publicly instead of finding a way to solve the issue and be prepared for next split is not the right move.

  • @progue6446
    @progue6446 Рік тому +112

    Rekkles had some real bad moments particularly in the first week. I distinctly remember him on Varus vs Vitality and he maybe did 100 damage in a baron fight.
    Its a shame to see, but I think Rhuckz is more a problem. U wanna talk about small champ pool, this guy only plays Leo and Naut.

    • @asdfffs
      @asdfffs Рік тому +2

      An adc not being to dish out damage in a fight has more to do with comp and what your teammates are doing, if you don't peel for your squishy damage dealer and leave him undefended they can't do anything. Exactly what happened in a recent game where they all just left Rekkles in a teamfight and he was completely zoned out by the top laner. I mean, this guy has experience and the titles to show for it, World Championship finalist mind you, he knows how to play the game

    • @tomwallen7271
      @tomwallen7271 Рік тому

      @@asdfffs It can also mean your ADC is playing overly scared and just isn't on the same page.

  • @jonswenson
    @jonswenson Рік тому +14

    It took me awhile to figure out this wasnt CSGO.

  • @GubbiGap
    @GubbiGap Рік тому +27

    I will say though I do respect Rekkless for making a video like that and for being honest about things. Hope to see an update on this :)

    • @booradley6832
      @booradley6832 Рік тому +2

      I was just about to post the same comment but scrolled down first to see if someone else had said it.
      He said some hard things with a truly humbled outlook and I really think that its more of a team problem than just him. Honestly a lot of teams in all sorts of competitive arenas would kill for a mentally mature, experienced player as that sort of "locker room leader" and stack up and coming talent around them to absorb that mindset coming off them. I dont think the rest of the roster is exactly complimenting him, lets say that. Either way, the fact that he's kept his fingers firmly pointed either at himself or the ground is a very smart thing for his personal narrative, the team, and the game. I would love to see him turn it around though, just based on what i've seen lately. Its not a "glory days" thing for me, im not really a "fan" of any player in particular but I admire his outlook.
      You find out about the player when their career is on the rise. You find out about the man in how they react to the decline.

    • @GubbiGap
      @GubbiGap Рік тому

      @@booradley6832 I’m gonna be honest I don’t follow pro play enough to know who’s really at fault but I support honesty which is what it sounds like to me. Rekkles earned a lot of respect from me by handeling this the way he did. Also your sentence really hits the nail on the head!

  • @adamlotfi563
    @adamlotfi563 Рік тому +9

    Looking back is just so sad. I started watching Fnatic since xPeke’s backdoor with Kassadin was still a new thing. The journey was so awesome to experience. I’ve quit playing League since 2016, but I do occasionally read news about Worlds every now and then. 2018 may be Fnatic’s peak, but I personally enjoy 2015’s roster a lot more. The dynamic relationship they had was just like a 5 man group of homies you have in high school lol. Time flies huh. Sad to see fnc’s downfall right now. No matter what happens I’m always happy to be able to experience everything since the early days.

  • @jerooome9456
    @jerooome9456 Рік тому +34

    based from the time rekkles was a guest caster for lec. He showed that he was knowledgeable in terms of game and drafts. and I get it. swapping roles are a huge issue but if that's the angle that will take you to the W. then he should take. One say support role is easy, but in reality, support players need to be aware of what's happening during the game and possible things that may happen in game. And I think he can play that role perfectly. I hope.

    • @kyleco9185
      @kyleco9185 Рік тому +7

      Yeah, and out of all the lanes an adc player can swap to, support would be the easiest since it's literally the same lane and he has been beside a support almost all the time so he has a good grip on the mannerisms and habits of a good support player

    • @KatastOrfeas
      @KatastOrfeas Рік тому +2

      @@kyleco9185 also exactly since he has been playing adc for so long he knows exactly what his adc would want him to do without him even saying it which is also really important

    • @grayson6615
      @grayson6615 Рік тому +2

      needing to be aware of what's happening during the game and possible things that may happen in game is not unique to any role; especially when you're in comms. you can be the shotcaller from any role, it's just a matter of what your team does with the information that you provide.

  • @RikkuChaser
    @RikkuChaser Рік тому +93

    I was so stoked for this roster, but kinda knew Razork and Rhuckz just wouldn't work man.

    • @nathanaelsallhageriksson1719
      @nathanaelsallhageriksson1719 Рік тому

      B R U H

    • @Mysterark
      @Mysterark Рік тому +9

      both of your side lanes want to play weakside. this shit wasnt gonna work from the beginning what u mean lmao

    • @avianstreak377
      @avianstreak377 Рік тому +1

      Even wunder wont work with rekless, its either wunder or rekless in this roster , otherwise its a recipe for disaster

    • @harish5724
      @harish5724 Рік тому +5

      @Cloud Silvers so much cope here. Razork's problem is not having 2 weakside lanes, his problem is that the is running it down. Rhuckz problem is that he is a leona naut 2 trick, when both are horribly out of meta, and even on them, he is not lec level.

    • @fujoisgodlike_2727
      @fujoisgodlike_2727 Рік тому

      @@cloudsilvers2 games at worlds where engage supports were doing good, right now is enchanters or anything, unless you have an exceptional nautilus in your team like miky or something

  • @dtlam308
    @dtlam308 Рік тому +11

    Fnatic is having so many problems that I thought this was a video about their CS:GO team.

    • @leonardogonzalesiii7356
      @leonardogonzalesiii7356 Рік тому

      I even thought this the whole org in general. They just dropped their whole DotA 2 roster

    • @KatastOrfeas
      @KatastOrfeas Рік тому

      what do you mean, their CS:GO roster is doing fine, certainly they might have wanted to achieve more in katowice but considering they had a good showing and went toe to toe with vitality and even beat outsiders i don't thinks saying they have problems is correct

  • @kuwa333
    @kuwa333 Рік тому +1

    When I started playing league in season 3, Rekkles was one of the best players back then. Sad to see esports career lifespan is just short.

    • @laurakrystel
      @laurakrystel Рік тому

      it's been 10 years since S3 so of course no one is going to be the same in 10 years. it sucks for us fans that we don't get to see our favorites win. Honestly I feel like some of these old players should just retire or at least play knowing they peaked long ago. In any case I still hope the best for them

  • @Kinggriffy
    @Kinggriffy Рік тому +11

    I’ve watched every LEC game this split and honestly rekkles might be passive and not abusing the Lucian nami and stuff but that team. Humanoid is tapped every lane. Rhuckz is just lost on every play. Razork has been gapped by every jungle too. There’s too many things going into this to blame rekkles.

    • @manuelitotortola9267
      @manuelitotortola9267 Рік тому +5

      Hey rekkles fan, have you ever though why humanoid and razork tried so hard to play ? Coz they need to, you think its season 1 afk farming 1hr and fight ? Have ever thought that rhuckz cant play passive to a passive adc? This games prepare teams for world not just for making passive kda gaming. Rekkles is no carry , hes been carried by xpeke and caps 🥴🤣.

    • @cremlindor6607
      @cremlindor6607 Рік тому

      @@manuelitotortola9267 You're completely delusional and you can't even hide your hate boner for rekkles. It's ok bud

    • @manuelitotortola9267
      @manuelitotortola9267 Рік тому

      @@cremlindor6607 rekkles fans malding 🥴🤣. You think making This shit video is right? Posting a drama video after lost? What does he think he is? A superstar in that team? 🤣. This video just give more hate to his other teammates and meanwhile hes brainbrushing his toxic fans that ” no rekkles you did so good and only your teammates are bad”. Its fcking psycho-mental defense seeking empathy, saying an apologize and bla bla bla, meanwhile his teammate will get more hate and blamed 🤣. Smart move for overrated adc. As Yamatocannon also said This is so unnecessary to do.

    • @anja979
      @anja979 Рік тому +2

      I'm sure Rekkles is capable of playing Lucian, he's done it many times before but Rhuckz can't play Nami so that's that. A lot of people blame Rekkles for bad adc champion picks but I feel like it's because Rhuckz champion pool only gives them limited options

    • @gustavexiii2028
      @gustavexiii2028 Рік тому

      @@manuelitotortola9267 come write again when you finally reach off of iron 2

  • @Matt-bh6yp
    @Matt-bh6yp Рік тому +21

    poor guy should not be taking all the blame. But I guess this is how he feels, and thats why I love the player.

    • @Jthanson88
      @Jthanson88 Рік тому

      He’s a product of his success. He’s the most famous one and the one that brought hope this year so of course he’ll be the first everyone points fingers at 🤷‍♂️

    • @booradley6832
      @booradley6832 Рік тому

      Its a very mature and honestly smart move. He knows that he has a good chance that he can get himself into form and get himself performing like previously. He's had a spotlight shown on him and criticism on him since he left fnatic the first time. Why let one of the other players soak up that negativity when they might crack under the pressure? His humility and willingness to take responsibility just scream that he's the leader you should build a team around. Grab younger, hot talent that has less experience in handling pressure and let him shield them as they grow. If they win, great you look like a genius. If they dont? You have up to 4 young players that have started to pick up good habits both in game and in the media from Rekkles and will be in strong contention for years to come.
      TL;DR
      Bane: Darkness :: Rekkles: Being called trash by silver mmr players

  • @JigzS
    @JigzS Рік тому +23

    I'm just happy that Doublelift is having a good comeback

    • @agoodboi3781
      @agoodboi3781 Рік тому +2

      Against teams like IMT, DIG, CLG, LIQUID GG, AND TSM? He's good domestically but a shame that he doesn't win internationally

    • @rainorshine6998
      @rainorshine6998 Рік тому +4

      @@agoodboi3781 If your go to is to immediately diminish someone's success you are a sad person. Celebrate stop putting people down.

    • @tobiasmartinsen3778
      @tobiasmartinsen3778 Рік тому +1

      @@rainorshine6998 Its league lol what do u expect

    • @odin6414
      @odin6414 Рік тому

      @@rainorshine6998 said the guy watching a video slaughtering rekkles

    • @rainorshine6998
      @rainorshine6998 Рік тому

      @@odin6414 pointless comment. Okay lol

  • @7heRequiem
    @7heRequiem Рік тому +1

    Though the elephant in the room is Rekkles, no doubt and it would be easier to blame him and it would be easier to just make him a scapegoat but that is not possible because the team really failed in so many fronts. I am surprised by Wunder tbh because he and Bwipo are hands down probably the best Top laners in LEC but he failed pretty bad this split too! It is just so ironic that Fnatic performed extremely well at Worlds when Hylissang wasn't even there at the time. Can't believe it's literally the same team except for the bot lane swap where one is an ex-teammate and another is a sub who actually played well at Worlds stage. Tbh, it doesn't seem like the team is losing for bot diff specifically, it just crumbled pretty bad and is unrecognizable! Caedreal seems to be on to something that there's definitely some drama and tensions behind the scenes!

  • @azaldie
    @azaldie Рік тому

    "No king rules forever." - Terenas Menethil II

  • @jotan2188
    @jotan2188 Рік тому +47

    win or lose I'm just happy rekkles is back to the scene

    • @8thgstriker412
      @8thgstriker412 Рік тому +3

      enjoy while it last he wont be here for long lol
      easily the worst adc this split

  • @Upgraderednight
    @Upgraderednight Рік тому +17

    If Fnatic truly wants to keep rekkles, they need players that motivated and importantly, can carry the games. Rekkles has never been the guy that you play through, he’s your fallback. I believe they should’ve kept Upset and, gotten a new top and either a new jg or mid.

    • @tobiasmartinsen3778
      @tobiasmartinsen3778 Рік тому +2

      Well FNC is just trolling they had upset on contract (Best ADC EU) and they still go out and get Rekkles

    • @spacelizard5280
      @spacelizard5280 Рік тому

      most of his career FNC has been playing through botside but ok I guess

  • @NPARKML
    @NPARKML Рік тому +4

    In Rekkles' deff (im not a fan) humanoid and Razork are just straight up running it, every game.

    • @samuelbonafe258
      @samuelbonafe258 Рік тому

      I mean they coud get Saken and Selfmade back

    • @MrDagi77
      @MrDagi77 Рік тому

      @@samuelbonafe258 broxah and xpeke

  • @ftxhna8u
    @ftxhna8u Рік тому +4

    Not "possibly worst season ever", worst season ever full stop. Im used to my team having a shaky start, even going 0-3 first week but they've always bounced back and got their sh1t together, not this time. I swear they probably lost every game at pick ban. I miss Hyllisang so much and I'm not afraid to say it.

  • @thetuerk
    @thetuerk Рік тому +4

    This was not a video I expected

  • @riftwalk2546
    @riftwalk2546 Рік тому +3

    I like how everyone is blaming Rekkles but they are not seeing Razork, Humanoid and Rhuckz Int or missed played the whole season. its the same as G2 2021 where Wunder, Miky and sometimes Caps were playing bad. people stop the hate and watch every game closely I'm not saying Rekkles is innocents here FNC needs those Draven, Kalista, Lucian Lulu, Renata, Nami games to win games.

    • @gustavexiii2028
      @gustavexiii2028 Рік тому

      @rift walk the fun fact is that g2 in 2021 spring just won every single lane phase on bot lane , they literally didnt lost bot even 1 time. rekless where chased on picks ban tho.
      jankos got clapped as much as caps and they lost fight after fight perma chasing enemies into jungle or doing useless fight like " we re stronger so we win " disrespecting picks and spikes. but they put the blame on rekkless.
      maybe out of the games he s toxic and headstrong, maybe not BUT ingame what i can see is that in the last years of LEC :
      G2 and FNC struggling theirself despite of players they take or they put away from the team.
      MAD and RGE did amazing while G2 and FNC where killing their own companies , they used their resource and their player and used them in the best way they could making them work toghether. they had good gameplay (slow or not) and they did well teamfight and stuff while G2 and FNC in the last years couldnt do that as much well.
      i believe its true... i mean you should make difference trying to be aggressive using your personal skill to win fight even if you shouldnt win but maybe coinflipping too much game its not a good choice when results are negative ?
      just watch razork, this and last year was disgusting he solo lost games and all the time he can get a kill over his laners he do that. all the single time. so he int, but he get kills while his laners play in deficit in some game, in others he just get caught and gapped into the jungle role self and bait team into death.
      the games where he solocarry are few that i can count it in 1 hand.
      humanoid is one of the best orianna/azir player of europe and what he s doing? in the last years he was coinflipping too.
      wunder has a champion pool wide as his years of competitive and what he s doing? yes, nothing good. cause the draft builded sucks and dont take the 100% of all team members
      rhucks tried he s best but even if his champion pool is restricted on 3/4 champion he must play what s in meta and what team needs. you cant play competitive and give handicap on your team draft cause you just "cant" .
      rekless highly prefer to play passive but he also can play for win his lane , we ve seen that when he had myk1x as duo bot in soloq and in the first half of 2021. maybe he s not a shining star but he s still a good adc with good map control and macro. i think he just missplayed 2 games of 9 , unlike razork who literally inted 7 game of 9 this year.

  • @SiBebok
    @SiBebok Рік тому

    Top 10 best apologies in yt history

  • @Nowhanie
    @Nowhanie Рік тому +1

    6:31 - Upset to ADC and Rekkles to support was also what i had in mind also lol

  • @Dynam3
    @Dynam3 Рік тому +5

    I think fnatics failure is not one persons fault, rather looking from outside, it seems like they lack identity.
    It's hard to say if rekkles can or can't play meta adc's because he's forced to play with non-meta supports. Rekkles is not known for his draven, so the varus that he seems to be spamming is about the only meta adc that works with melee supports rhuckz is spamming. I suppose melee supports can still work if you have an adc willing to go aggressive (like with g2), but in fnatics case, the botlane just seems miss-matched with two players wanting to play opposite styles.
    Wunder seems to also play (or maybe has been told to play, who knows) champions that are just non-volatile.
    I'm guessing fnatic then tried to play through mid, but this meta is not mid-centric at all, and with neither sidelane having prio, it's kinda impossible to roam or even jungle gank mid. On top of that, having humanoid on azir leaves him unable to really roam to sidelanes, and when you add all these things together, it just leaves a lifeless team that's only win condition is enemy throwing.
    I didn't mention razork because it's impossible to tell if he's playing good or bad, since he seems to have no options right from champ select

  • @DaisyLazyPanda
    @DaisyLazyPanda Рік тому

    well to be honest, i expected fnc to be eliminated, since fnc are a team that usually ramps up, sometimes tehy even go 0-5 or 0-6 and then finally start to ramp up, this is the first time ever that we have a different system that "there is no room to ramp up" so it's nothing new seeing fnc losing many games early on in the season, like at all

  • @MrNabura
    @MrNabura Рік тому +1

    Rhukz only plays melee supports in a ranged enchanter support meta game, Rekkles only has 2-3 comfort picks that don't go well with melee supports, Wunder has more love for WoW than for LoL, the team itself is split into 2 groups (even Caedrel talked about it). I always hoped Rekkles would have returned to Fnatic as a 2nd coach next to Yomato, dude might not have the ADC skills required to compete against the best of EU, but his game vision, awareness, game mechanics,... could've (maybe?) made Rekkles a great coach.

    • @tobiasmartinsen3778
      @tobiasmartinsen3778 Рік тому

      Why are u still saying Wunder have more love for wow, where are u getting that information from it was from 2 years ago?

    • @tobiasmartinsen3778
      @tobiasmartinsen3778 Рік тому

      And Yamato is not on the team anymore because FNC fans wanted him and upset out. u clearly have no idea what u are talking about smh

  • @2008Pain
    @2008Pain Рік тому +1

    What's happening to Fnatic across all the major games? They are no longer top tier in CS, their Dota 2 team was relagated to division 2 (FNC dropped the entire roaster this month) and now League as well.

  • @Hadwerd7
    @Hadwerd7 Рік тому

    The biggest mistake fnatic did was listen to its community and getting rid of hyllie and replacing him with Rhuckz after him having two okay games in worlds play in.

  • @Pastacheese
    @Pastacheese Рік тому +1

    Rekkles wasn't the problem, rhuckz was. Period.

  • @fujoisgodlike_2727
    @fujoisgodlike_2727 Рік тому +1

    Rekkles Champion pool has never been an issue that big as fnc always ended up doing good, problem is that now he’s not the only one, rhucz has an even smaller champion pool and it totally clashes with Rekkles’ one, they’re like worst enemies as for pools😂 also the team has no strongside, razork is getting picked everywhere and humanoid doesn’t practice outside of scrims and god knows why he doesn’t get fined for it. It’s in the hands of the coaching staff to do something, but this coaching staff is not great either. For now if the roster has to stay the same I want Rekkles to thrive in soloq playing caitlyn kalista draven because I know he’s good with the first 2 and humanoid spamming soloq as well. Don’t ask for any more than that. Even if a carry jungler like selfmade COULD be moving.

  • @noslim0571
    @noslim0571 Рік тому +10

    I think his video in Worlds 2017 against IMT where he got caught over extending as Twitch made him very careful in team fights, too careful. After that, he was just a different player. . He was actually carrying the team atm but after one mistake that cost them the game, people just talk about his bad decision, "overconfidence", etc. Yeah they did went to the Finals the following year but it was due to the rise of Caps and Bwipo. Though he was still popping off once in awhile. Now people always notice that he was just farming during games and even late in team fights because he was still catching the creep wave or even afraid to risk it during the important time on a team fight. I mean, your team is getting crush, why not go all in while they're alive, maybe if the enemy focus on you, your teammates my turn the table or even you can turn the table, but no, he will usually poke, be in safe distance, then will just go all in when all his teammates or most of them died. Yes, ADC need to position themselves in a fight, but usually, his position is too far or so bad that he is non existent during the start of the fight. It's hard watch Rekkles underperforming each split in the LEC when I know he was once considered as the King of ADC in EU. I know Rekkles can still do it, though maybe not in the high level as top ADC in the worlds, but he can still be a good ADC to a contender if he manage to get his confidence back.

    • @iSa_Ach
      @iSa_Ach Рік тому +1

      Yup, exactly that was the origin point. It was at that moment we knew that Rekkles playstyle change. That single gameplay changed him, the sole blame of loosing that game and that worlds run. The fans blamed him, the team (even if they don't want to admit) blamed him and even Rekkles blamed himself, there were no fingers to point or other people to hide from, that was his mistake and no one else.

    • @johnnyairplane2896
      @johnnyairplane2896 Рік тому +1

      Upset brings more value to the team than Rekkles at this point

    • @-AmirulNaim
      @-AmirulNaim Рік тому +2

      that's where moment he went from Rekkles to Kautious

    • @businesscat8320
      @businesscat8320 Рік тому

      nahhh Caps carried Kekkless, he was just riding the hype 💁‍♂

  • @lathalassa
    @lathalassa Рік тому +1

    Why is anyone surprised? Early season Fnatic has always been weak, but since it used to be 2nd round robin, they could always bounce back. The new format just hurt FNC more than other teams. So what?

  • @ozthebeeman
    @ozthebeeman Рік тому +1

    arguably their worst split? its the first time they missed playoffs this is 100% the worst split

  • @SarcasticSloth69
    @SarcasticSloth69 Рік тому +1

    honestly rhukz was the problem. they need someone that's aggressive and can take over on pocket picks. Rekkles is too passive, he needs his hand held. that's why Fnatic need a shotcalling support that can take over. rhuckz aint it, idk what fnatic were thinking signing a 26 yr old who was stuck in the ERLs

  • @EKGraphics767
    @EKGraphics767 Рік тому

    I'll tell you what happened, they literally downgraded in every position:
    Adam > Wunder
    Selfmade/Bwipo > Razork
    Nemesis/Nisqy > Humanoid
    Upset > Rekkles
    Hylissang > Rhukz

  • @TheAlex11880
    @TheAlex11880 Рік тому

    LS pointing fingers at Wunder when he's the only halfway stable member of the team is a fucking joke.

  • @PHILLYMEDIC69
    @PHILLYMEDIC69 Рік тому

    I kinda knew it wouldn't work out based on Rekkles's performance in the past 2 years. But I was excited regardless.

    • @tobiasmartinsen3778
      @tobiasmartinsen3778 Рік тому

      100% agree, Its insane he is getting this much blame when his playing with weakside top/bot every game legit unplayable as a jungler ofc Razork have also trolled a lot but still

  • @miyukozero9844
    @miyukozero9844 Рік тому +1

    People blamed him for the fall of G2 when they didn't qualify for worlds, and now they blame him for the horrible results of Fnatic. While he IS part of the problem, no denying that, Fnatic has much bigger problems. Kick that dumb support and Razork out as well as the coach, bring back Yamato, find a decent support and a decent jungler and reboot Fnatic.

    • @tobiasmartinsen3778
      @tobiasmartinsen3778 Рік тому

      They should ahve kept upset lol, the dude was still on contract and they decide on rekkles instead and how do u play jungle when u have 2 losing lanes top/bot both play really passiv and make it impossible to play

  • @ericbatas7099
    @ericbatas7099 Рік тому

    He can actually play now being a support, the meta actually fits now for adc/support like ashe,

  • @SomeDuuuuddddeeee
    @SomeDuuuuddddeeee Рік тому +1

    fnatic dota 2 team was also got relegated to DPC division 2. now they get rid of their Dota pro team. what is happening in this org?

  • @JP-tz3fg
    @JP-tz3fg Рік тому +1

    I honestly dont think that it is "only" the fault of rekkles. Sure its easy to pin point on him, because Upset is still there. But when you honestly think about it, Wunder, Razork and Rhukz played all their games AWFUL. The only consistent Teammate was Humanoid when he was on azir. 13.3 is a good patch for ADCs but rn the patch is better for Top jngl meta

  • @KyleZill
    @KyleZill Рік тому

    So let me get this straight... NA=just sucks, can't get out of groups ... EU = can't get along with each other ... APAC = winners, best region.

  • @FirstLast-xg6ri
    @FirstLast-xg6ri Рік тому

    I love how people want to get viewers and followers on ways like this, just pointing at one person and trash talk instead looking at whole team fails and finding a real problems

  • @molorhaym
    @molorhaym Рік тому

    Idk. Part of me is like "Well this happens on every team Rekkles joins these days, he brings a toxic environment with him from what's being shown to us." But we also don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Personally, I think they should put Upset back as starting ADC and maybe trying Rekkles in support. Considering the meta is shifting to the double ADC bot lane with ADC Supports I think it could work out (until they inevitably nerf it.)

    • @tobiasmartinsen3778
      @tobiasmartinsen3778 Рік тому

      Why keep Rekkles at all when the support played with Upset at worlds it went fine and its legit insane they swap out Upset for rekkles

    • @markrobs2954
      @markrobs2954 Рік тому

      @@tobiasmartinsen3778 I don't think they swapped upset. From what I gathered from the video Upset didn't want to play with the current support and they didn't want to drop the support or couldn't get another one so they decided on getting rekkles who was the only one that agreed. And Upset not being able to find a team or support that he wanted to play with inevitably benched himself. But I could have misinterpreted what I heard in the video or maybe other bts things happening.

  • @rusty7448
    @rusty7448 Рік тому +1

    As a fnatic fan, I'm glad they effing failed. Dunno why blame it on Rekkles, though, when Razork's pathing is weird and he and Humanoid overextended at least two important early games fights and gave out kills. True, I'm silver/gold player myself, but I don't think it's a good play when it feels like right out of my soloQ. The whole team is somehow dysfunctional, though, so in my view I have to agree that biggest issues are probably behind the scenes. Mayba Yamato was the special sauce?

  • @blazebravo6977
    @blazebravo6977 Рік тому +3

    I know he had a bad split but I feel like they just need to learn how to play together

  • @BEARxFPS
    @BEARxFPS Рік тому +1

    Why does rekkles look like MGK from Aldi?

  • @oskarherbst9354
    @oskarherbst9354 Рік тому

    Well - most of the FNATIC Fans never where this exited - Upset was our former star and we replaced him with someone who decided twice against FNATIC and in favour of (from his perspective) his personal best chance to get to a titel...
    Upset never spoked about leaving, while having to carry this team... rekkless left without even carrying

  • @imgorgeous03
    @imgorgeous03 Рік тому

    I watched most if not all of the FNC games this split. Never been a huge fan of rekkles, but he is deff not the biggest issue at all. How many times did he get caught and die or simply get outplayed and died? twice max. most team fights, if you watch it; none of his team is peeling for him. It's gotta be a chemistry thing or something like they just leave him to get zoned out in fight.

  • @theomarks3750
    @theomarks3750 Рік тому +1

    How about we wait a bit and see how things will go? We are not even half way in the season and ppl call it a failure already. If you treat urself and ur live the same way, damn good luck for you getting happy. Chances are low.
    And btw - marketing is a thing. And rekkles is a brand. And fnatic is a company. Just .. as a thought. ;)

    • @Robert-xn3dc
      @Robert-xn3dc Рік тому

      And how is that marketing strategy working?

    • @hehexd5317
      @hehexd5317 Рік тому

      "we're halfway through the season" one split is already almost over bro, and you need to do good in all 3 to get to worlds, 1 down, 2 to go, I'm sure razork and humanoid will stop running it down next split, after an entire year of doing just that, and I'm sure rhukz will magically stop being a 26 year old player who was hardstuck in erls for nearly a decade xd, you're delusional, this team is freelo for any of the other teams if they keep the same roster

    • @theomarks3750
      @theomarks3750 Рік тому

      @@Robert-xn3dc I dont know the salesnumbers of merch or how easy it was to get better partnerships and sponsors, but I bet they liked the return of rekkles, because we all (most) love/loved it.

    • @theomarks3750
      @theomarks3750 Рік тому

      @@hehexd5317 We will see :)
      I bet they work hard on it and hopefully they can recover.

  • @abddjamil7842
    @abddjamil7842 Рік тому

    I don't know what's more shoking fnc out of group stage or bds and ast making the group stage

  • @mikevalencia1318
    @mikevalencia1318 Рік тому

    man they hyped fnatic and rekkles way too much. I really feel sorry for them. so many bad calls and so many people getting caught in unnecessary fights. Im glad the doublelift hype was better than this. I ddnt feel synergy in fnatic but rekkles looks cool though.

  • @codelinx
    @codelinx Рік тому

    I feel like doublelift was a better pickup... And he just seems to not be the gel teams need.

  • @longlifetometal1995
    @longlifetometal1995 Рік тому +1

    LoL Esports comes back from vacation and FNC's and TSM's reddits goes haywire :
    theScore esports : This is free real estate

  • @scherexyz
    @scherexyz Рік тому

    if i find i one more rekless defender after he made an apology tweet to say that his split was garbage i hit them

  • @kiliosai
    @kiliosai Рік тому +1

    FNATIC is EU's TSM

  • @Benjamin-ex9pd
    @Benjamin-ex9pd Рік тому +2

    can we please appreciate him making this video? also i don’t like how people accuse fanatic lose because of him

  • @KutlucanChloe
    @KutlucanChloe Рік тому

    rekkles is scape goat in this position, his teammates are no better than him, last week wunder literally went 2-10 in my soloq 2 times IN A ROW

  • @TheWasd1234
    @TheWasd1234 Рік тому

    Imagine being raised by Xpeke and becoming one of the top LEC teams in FNC then moving to G2 only to retire

  • @donghasexpanded8023
    @donghasexpanded8023 Рік тому

    Rekkles is in desperate need of a $3 patreon

  • @Jthanson88
    @Jthanson88 Рік тому

    Rhuckz is the worst player in all bottom lane in EU. That’s their biggest issue

  • @DanyMinecraft123
    @DanyMinecraft123 Рік тому +5

    This is like Messi leaving Barcelona. Of course a very different situation, and reason but all in all, just like that. I could never see Rekkless not be a part of Fnatic back in the day 🤗

    • @john-hanner
      @john-hanner Рік тому +3

      man really just compared rekkles to messi, rekkles in his prime was at best a candidate for best player in the region, while messi was undoubtedly one of the goats in world football

    • @DanyMinecraft123
      @DanyMinecraft123 Рік тому +1

      @@john-hanner you didn't get it man 😂😂 just as i couldnt see messi not be in barcelona is how i cant see rekkless in fnatic. Thats what i said. there is no comparisson, i just expressed how i see things, and a fee people relate.

    • @karlrose405
      @karlrose405 Рік тому

      @@john-hanner Learn to read and understand simple sentences pls... for your own good ^^
      It will be worth it in long terms : )

    • @yb9506
      @yb9506 Рік тому

      @@john-hanner relax lol...

    • @tarakbelhiba3168
      @tarakbelhiba3168 Рік тому

      @@john-hanner both are playing games so what's the difference ? you're making it sound like messi is a grand scientist that contributed something to humanity lol

  • @shatterfall_hunted8236
    @shatterfall_hunted8236 Рік тому +1

    "Arguably their worst split ever".They ended 9th when they had never placed below Top 6 since the Org started in league of Legends.A combination of keeping the problematic players and bringing new problematic players got them here,simple as that.They kept Razork and Humanoid together who are individually very good but together they look like they dont speak with each other,they make Wunder play champs that dont enforce his playstyle when they have a years worth of experience with him,and they bring in Rekkles who is very depended on his support with a rookie support.Kicking YamatoCannon and Upset was a deathwish but they chose to go for marketing points with Rekkles when they know how many problems he has as player and even with his problems they still dont try to fix the peaces around him,so they end up having a team with ANTI-synergy.

    • @tobiasmartinsen3778
      @tobiasmartinsen3778 Рік тому

      Yeah FNC management is insane upset was legit the only winning faktor they had

  • @Daniel03YT
    @Daniel03YT Рік тому +1

    Rekkless wasnt the main problem in the team

    • @Diopside.
      @Diopside. Рік тому

      it felt like jungle and top was a problem.

  • @ndriod
    @ndriod Рік тому +2

    I think any rational Fnatic fan like myself saw this coming :p
    the problem with Fnatic last season was the inconsistency of the top half(Wunder, Razork, Humanoid) while the botlane was excellent
    now the full team is inconsistent

  • @antoinefromage2050
    @antoinefromage2050 Рік тому +1

    I like rekkles, but benching upset after the last seasons is a joke

  • @tehnikututorial
    @tehnikututorial Рік тому

    We know how good individually fnc player before is. I think they still try to build synergy.

  • @balooc2
    @balooc2 Рік тому

    move rekkles to support, bring back upset and start play as a team!

  • @Tartersauce101
    @Tartersauce101 Рік тому

    I am not and have never been a Reckless fan...that said he isn't the problem. He looks like the best performer on the team actually.

    • @sander9209
      @sander9209 Рік тому

      If you don't see how rekkles wasn't part of the problem, you don't understand the game. Him not playing zeri/lucian/caitlyn was a huge issue for them

    • @Tartersauce101
      @Tartersauce101 Рік тому

      @@sander9209 With how his top and jungle were playing I see no way a simple champ swap bot lane turns any of their L's to W's

    • @derais_music
      @derais_music Рік тому +1

      @@sander9209 He can't play zeri cuz rhuckz can't play yuumi. He can't play lucian cuz rhuckz can't play nami nor sona. He can't play caitlyn when rhuckz can't play lux.
      Please explain to me how he could have possibly played those champions?

    • @slimee33
      @slimee33 Рік тому

      @@sander9209 his bad that he isnt playing the most overrated bot lane combo to ever exist i guess

  • @mahiru20ten
    @mahiru20ten Рік тому

    Fnatic also withdraw their Dota 2 roster this month.

  • @joshpointoh
    @joshpointoh Рік тому

    Anyone with half a brain knew that hype video was ridiculous the minute it came out. Fnatic are so dysfunctional, Rekless couldn't save it, no matter how well he played.
    Wunder was clearly done. That alone was probably enough to doom them. Not only done, but he seemed done in the most toxic of ways. Like he was stealing money and mad that it wasn't more.
    And then a support that 6 people allegedly passed on?
    Plus, the org as a whole has been showing more and more dysfunction...
    Like I said, even if Rekless was playing perfect it was probably doomed.

  • @GameBreaker1055
    @GameBreaker1055 Рік тому +3

    Here is the thing. I would not be surprised if some players of FNATIC might not be all to happy about Upset getting benched for Rekkles as it is straight up an absolute disrespect towards him.
    The guy took a game against T1 at world and got benched for a publicity stunt!

    • @JohnWuWu
      @JohnWuWu Рік тому

      I hardly believe that's the case. Do you really think Fnatic would prefer the publicity over winning? Also , winning is the best publicity, something that Fnatic haven't done in half a decade. According to what Eros (a respectable scene leaker) said in the Spanish League o Legends show "Esportmaniacos", rumours say It's the other way around regarding your affirmation of other players not being happy with Upset being benched. Seems like Upset was very hard to work with and three of the other FNC players didn't want to play with him. Also Fnatic management wanted to replace Hyli but Upset only wanted to stay if he was playing with him so Fnatic attempted to trade both of them to other teams but nobody wanted the combo except for one team. Upset then went a bit of diva and ruined the deal so he was he was left without a team in the offseason and had to be in the fnatic bench. And finally, they didn't pick Reckless for a publicity stunt, he was in fact one of the last options (5th or 6th according to several sources including the tweet in this video) if not considered an option at all. He was only picked because he was the only one willing to play with the recently promoted support Rhuckz. Other adcs wanted to bring their own support or play with other specific players.

    • @GameBreaker1055
      @GameBreaker1055 Рік тому

      @@JohnWuWu I just said I would not be surprised, not that I think it's actually the case. I don't think any of these guys are petty enough to pull that shit, but it is LoL so I would not be shocked, that's my point.
      What you wrote is a fair assessment of the situation.

  • @jorgerojasmundotropicaltra64
    @jorgerojasmundotropicaltra64 Рік тому +1

    good stuff i was seeing another special notice about tekken the case of girlanda the european player from italy without sponsors make it for tha 4th place surviving the group of dead with knee chikurin and arlan ash i would love to see that special that is something that not happen all the time

  • @johnnyairplane2896
    @johnnyairplane2896 Рік тому +1

    FNC went from 3rd place last season to going last in LEC this year. And the only difference is bot lane. 🤡

  • @jerichomilesalvarez9445
    @jerichomilesalvarez9445 Рік тому

    Rekkles behavior has become more and more erratic. He never shown is true form when it comes to his pro play.

  • @darkgxk
    @darkgxk Рік тому

    wunder wants to play weakside he thrives in those situations even in his heyday he would pull off insane things while being 2/3 manned on top this would let his team make a play on the opposite side and get leads.
    humanoid has always been weaker in regular season and ramped up in playoffs so it feels like he was just slowly getting back in the mojo
    rekkless wants to play weakside and scale into a late game monster for teamfights
    rhuckz is a melee engage support player that can't play enchanters which enable most meta strongside adcs
    so bot has a synergy problem where adc plays weakside and top also wants to play weakside, so the only lane that can be strongside is mid and thus razork needs to make the mid/jgl synergy work to unlock humanoid and let him make the bridge between early mid but they had bad synergy last year and from what we have seen it has not improved this year.
    rhuckz plays the engage supps but they get bodied too hard in lane where afterwards he can't really roam and go with jgl to help mid thus everything falls apart.
    you have top that can hold on, mid with the help of jgl tying to be strongside but inting their assess off(sometimes succeeding) and bot being gapped because they have only a handful of champs that can actually be paired together and if they get banned or if the enemy picks meta and you missplay then that lane is done.
    All in all the roster doesn't mesh together and for some reason they removed bot instead of either the jgl or mid that had no synergy for a whole year together...

  • @vikingjack9994
    @vikingjack9994 Рік тому

    FNC is doing what SKT should be doing, and visa versa...
    Rekkles Should never have left, and had like a "perma spot".
    Where as in SKT Faker needs to retire and they need to actually focus TEAM not Meme.

  • @GoodBoyDanny
    @GoodBoyDanny Рік тому +6

    What happened to this channel lol

  • @SarcasticSloth69
    @SarcasticSloth69 Рік тому +3

    he spent his VC all on his tatts instead of spending it on his talent attributes

  • @mitzi4250
    @mitzi4250 Рік тому

    why do this video on only LOL why not include the rest of them too or at least dota

  • @SaigaTenshi
    @SaigaTenshi Рік тому

    I only know Fnatic because I bought a MSI laptop

  • @Francis3acon
    @Francis3acon Рік тому

    Rekkles is such a good guy tho.

  • @Sasukefire007
    @Sasukefire007 Рік тому

    As LS Said Rekkles did fine all Games. Maybe he didnt carry like another top top adc could but atleast no of the loses were his fault he always did his job fine i guess.
    All ADC Players know that u just dont have that much impact in the first 20min where FNC already lost their games

    • @tobiasmartinsen3778
      @tobiasmartinsen3778 Рік тому

      u need to be playing more then fine when the meta is around adcs right now, and him begin pasiv all game impact roles such a jungle/mid a lot

  • @KingTafuu
    @KingTafuu Рік тому

    Pls make an update video after reckless stream

  • @darkplay5202
    @darkplay5202 Рік тому

    to be honest the ban and pick kinda bit questionable

  • @stx6671
    @stx6671 Рік тому

    I wouldnt say it his fault individualy…one thing was the meta it just wasnt their style at all and they as a team just didnt play around bot lane at all…it looked like solo q everyone just tunelling their lane and leaving bot lane to be camped every game

    • @tobiasmartinsen3778
      @tobiasmartinsen3778 Рік тому

      The reason the botlane is camped is because they were losing it so hard and that makes it impossible to play jungle and play around botside when ur lane is losing

  • @reikahime
    @reikahime Рік тому

    Still think benching Upset was a mistake, solely because org wanted hype zz

  • @jakerose2985
    @jakerose2985 Рік тому

    Why quoting LS tho... It's straight up inting lmao

  • @tre-rix3416
    @tre-rix3416 Рік тому

    Botlane was a huge downgrade

  • @nellismygirl
    @nellismygirl Рік тому

    Easy, they destroyed their botlane.
    Rhuckz can't play anything but Leona, Rekkless hasn't been playing near top 5 since 2018-2.

  • @XfaN888
    @XfaN888 Рік тому

    i mean whole team underperformed

  • @umu7750
    @umu7750 Рік тому

    Whats even funnier to me is that fnc kicked hylissang and replaced by rhuckz, then when they are trying to change their adc no one wants to play with a no name support guy. Thats so hilarious 😂

  • @thomasadrianx
    @thomasadrianx Рік тому

    Fnatic was falling apart. Aside from their League Team, their Dota 2 Team fell to Division 2 for the very first time in history. I believe they're having problems with their CSGO Team as well.

  • @shyguyezreal
    @shyguyezreal Рік тому +2

    Next video, What Happened to Team Liquid? (LCS)

  • @vaderglenn
    @vaderglenn Рік тому +1

    I will forever stand on this, most overrated adc player ever. Won nothing of importance and always on good teams that make him look better tban he is. G2 was his peak team and they couldn't even do anything lol. Nothing against him, just mever understood why he was always so highly praised. But fnc, funny to see them fall so far. Missed Xpeke days of Fnc.

  • @ImAnOcean
    @ImAnOcean Рік тому

    i kinda hate that you are out of the season after 9 bo1...

  • @mike_nba
    @mike_nba Рік тому

    He cares more about his image and appearance rather than League nowadays. And it's logical since he earns more from that rather than league. He is washed move on fanboys