Two varieties of Dawn Redwood (straight species metasequoia glyptostroboides, and the "amber glow" cultivar), and the straight species of Bald Cypress (taxodium distichum)
@@branislavhavlik570 Now the dawn redwood is 20cm in diameter. Probably 7 or 8 years old. Here is a newer video with that tree: ua-cam.com/video/F8pjR0nRO0M/v-deo.html&si=688ivnvaw3RE42Tf
Planted a meter tall Dawn Redwood a few days ago, arrived with a broken leader branch though, not sure how that'll turn out but I don't think it'll be a big issue?
The most obvious difference between Metasequoia and Taxodium is that Metasequoia has opposite foliage while Taxodium has alternate foliage. All Dawn Redwoods are beautiful, but for my money, the most striking has to be ‘Gold Rush’. This variety has very bright yellow/ golden foliage that contrasts with the reddish bark. It is outstanding. I also have a couple of the variety ‘Urban Spire’ which is narrower than the species and therefore useful in somewhat smaller spaces. As far as Taxodium, there are quite a few varieties out there - weeping, dwarf, and fastigiate. The most exciting that I have grown is a cross between T. distichum ( bald cypress) and T. mucronatum ( Montezuma cypress from Mexico). The variety’ La Nana’ is the best form from huge trials in China. It does not form ‘knees’ like bald cypress can, and may have a longer holding foliage, as the T. mucronatum is basically evergreen. I do not know to what degree this foliage difference manifests itself, but I will find out, as I am planting one in my yard today.
@@moseseisley557I am 50m north of Seattle. The ‘La Nana’ hybrid is considerably hardier than the mucronatum species, which would be definitely marginal even here
I've grown lots of trees from seed, it's funny how different seeds and seedlings and everything can be or look similar. Coast, Sequoia, Dawn seeds look the same but Sequoia sprouts like a Red Cedar or Arizona Cypress. A Bald Cypress looks a lot like Dawn but the seeds and sprouts are very different. Long Leaf pine looks completely different from any other pine the first 4 years until it suddenly shoots out of the ground 4ft. I've noticed that although Bald Cypress can tolerate more water and worse soil and handle heat better, and the seeds are less..idiot-proof, the bugs don't eat up the Dawns like they do the Bald Cypress, the Dawns grow faster and the germination is far faster and I believe higher percentage...plus NO KNEES! Dawns are great but some trees, like the Eastern Red Cedar and Bald Cypress are just incredibly tough and durable trees. Coast and Dawns grow very fast but the fastest tree I've ever grown is the Red Mulberry. In just 3.5 years it was 12ft tall and putting out fruit...simply amazing. They're a bit messy but great for wildlife, delicious fruit and they tolerate lots of water and heat and bad soil like no other. Peach trees and Hybrid Willows also grow very fast. I think the Coast Redwood probably grows faster than the Dawn but my climate burns them up. And I want to give a shoutout to the Western White Pine. That's an amazing tree. Oh and Eastern Redbud is a must. I've grown some beautiful Dawns before, but I've never tried Amber Glow. Every once in a while though I've get a tree growing that's very light light green, happened twice. I guess it's like seeing a white deer. Had a pine that looked almost neon, but of course I accidentally killed it. haha The one tree I really want to grow is called Mexican White Oak. If you can find that tree, plant it. Basically the perfect tree.
Awesome info! Agree that dawn redwood is more robust than bald cypress in the south even though it's from the other side of the planet! Have you tried Loblolly Pine? Unquestionably the fastest tree i have ever grown... Nice fragrance too.
@@moseseisley557 Oh yeah, I'm in the land of lobolly and sweetgum. Loblolly is probably the hardiest pine, I mean they can handle it all. I'm trying Brutia pine right now and it's a pretty amazing tree, just not exactly right for my humid climate. I went from Long leaf and Eastern White Pine to Austrian Black Pine to Afghan Pine to Aleppo and now Brutia should work. Afghan Pine is maybe the fastest but it's terrible in humidity. The Western White Pines I have don't mind it and they grow very fast. They're just likely not as good as loblolly with the heat. I'm growing some Japanese black pine, very easy to grow and look amazing but they only live a 20 years max. I'm also trying to grow Deodar cedar. Not the easiest to grow but maybe the best looking tree there is. Yeah it's great to see a tree the dinosaurs once stood next to. Plus in high winds you don't have to worry about them.
@@wheelmanstan For Deodar, i have to grow either the "Karl Fuchs" or "Eisregen" cultivars in mid TN because the others are all less hardy. I lost several when temps dropped to -4°F in Dec 2022, but Karl Fuchs still going strong. Good report on Afghan Pine you gave. We have a new nursery here called Moon Valley and i think they're from Arizona. They have a bunch of Afhgan Pine and i was like "What the heck?" Not going to work in this humidity, although their tolerance for alkaline soils could almost make up for it. If i had a steep south-facing slope with a thin veneer of soil over limestone, i would try one.
@@moseseisley557 I'm a bit new to Deodar and haven't had a lot of success, maybe because the seeds seem pretty recalcitrant, but mostly my fault with either too must moisture or too little. But I have a few and will transplant them one of these days. They start off looking like pine trees, which is interesting. Yeah I'll try Afghan pine again and make sure to really put it out in a wide open high up area where it can really remain dry. I have one in the ground on an alkaline hard clay site and it's doing okay. I'm finding the Aleppo to be a bit hardier with the humidity and I think the Brutia will be even better but the Afghan pine are faster growers. I haven't seen them mature but they start off looking very similar. Beautiful trees. Nellie Stevens Holly are some great trees as well, for screening.
As specimen trees, you are correct. However, i'm going for a more forest-style dense planting focused on height. My entire tree collection is too close according to the recommended planting distances.
Beautiful trees.
Thanks for the video.
In Portland, Oregon we had a dawn redwood ,approx 60 tall when we moved.
@@michaelduffy5909 Wow! Any idea how old it was?
Nice trees. I have a few small bald cypress. I want a redwood too
They are easy to find online. wilsonbrosgardens.com is one of the best online nurseries.
How old is this tree? how is height and width? Is very nice tree.
@@branislavhavlik570 Now the dawn redwood is 20cm in diameter. Probably 7 or 8 years old. Here is a newer video with that tree: ua-cam.com/video/F8pjR0nRO0M/v-deo.html&si=688ivnvaw3RE42Tf
Planted a meter tall Dawn Redwood a few days ago, arrived with a broken leader branch though, not sure how that'll turn out but I don't think it'll be a big issue?
It should grow a new leader. Which company did you buy from?
The most obvious difference between Metasequoia and Taxodium is that Metasequoia has opposite foliage while Taxodium has alternate foliage. All Dawn Redwoods are beautiful, but for my money, the most striking has to be ‘Gold Rush’. This variety has very bright yellow/ golden foliage that contrasts with the reddish bark. It is outstanding. I also have a couple of the variety ‘Urban Spire’ which is narrower than the species and therefore useful in somewhat smaller spaces.
As far as Taxodium, there are quite a few varieties out there - weeping, dwarf, and fastigiate. The most exciting that I have grown is a cross between T. distichum ( bald cypress) and T. mucronatum ( Montezuma cypress from Mexico). The variety’ La Nana’ is the best form from huge trials in China. It does not form ‘knees’ like bald cypress can, and may have a longer holding foliage, as the T. mucronatum is basically evergreen. I do not know to what degree this foliage difference manifests itself, but I will find out, as I am planting one in my yard today.
What part of the country are you growing that mucronatum in?
@@moseseisley557I am 50m north of Seattle. The ‘La Nana’ hybrid is considerably hardier than the mucronatum species, which would be definitely marginal even here
@@timmillan6701 Nice. You can grow a lot more species than i can here in mid-TN.
Do you know the age of that cypress? I want to plant a few near a fresh water spring.
Not sure, but i would guess 5 to 7 years old.
I've grown lots of trees from seed, it's funny how different seeds and seedlings and everything can be or look similar. Coast, Sequoia, Dawn seeds look the same but Sequoia sprouts like a Red Cedar or Arizona Cypress. A Bald Cypress looks a lot like Dawn but the seeds and sprouts are very different. Long Leaf pine looks completely different from any other pine the first 4 years until it suddenly shoots out of the ground 4ft. I've noticed that although Bald Cypress can tolerate more water and worse soil and handle heat better, and the seeds are less..idiot-proof, the bugs don't eat up the Dawns like they do the Bald Cypress, the Dawns grow faster and the germination is far faster and I believe higher percentage...plus NO KNEES!
Dawns are great but some trees, like the Eastern Red Cedar and Bald Cypress are just incredibly tough and durable trees. Coast and Dawns grow very fast but the fastest tree I've ever grown is the Red Mulberry. In just 3.5 years it was 12ft tall and putting out fruit...simply amazing. They're a bit messy but great for wildlife, delicious fruit and they tolerate lots of water and heat and bad soil like no other. Peach trees and Hybrid Willows also grow very fast. I think the Coast Redwood probably grows faster than the Dawn but my climate burns them up. And I want to give a shoutout to the Western White Pine. That's an amazing tree. Oh and Eastern Redbud is a must.
I've grown some beautiful Dawns before, but I've never tried Amber Glow. Every once in a while though I've get a tree growing that's very light light green, happened twice. I guess it's like seeing a white deer. Had a pine that looked almost neon, but of course I accidentally killed it. haha The one tree I really want to grow is called Mexican White Oak. If you can find that tree, plant it. Basically the perfect tree.
Awesome info! Agree that dawn redwood is more robust than bald cypress in the south even though it's from the other side of the planet! Have you tried Loblolly Pine? Unquestionably the fastest tree i have ever grown... Nice fragrance too.
@@moseseisley557 Oh yeah, I'm in the land of lobolly and sweetgum. Loblolly is probably the hardiest pine, I mean they can handle it all. I'm trying Brutia pine right now and it's a pretty amazing tree, just not exactly right for my humid climate. I went from Long leaf and Eastern White Pine to Austrian Black Pine to Afghan Pine to Aleppo and now Brutia should work. Afghan Pine is maybe the fastest but it's terrible in humidity. The Western White Pines I have don't mind it and they grow very fast. They're just likely not as good as loblolly with the heat. I'm growing some Japanese black pine, very easy to grow and look amazing but they only live a 20 years max. I'm also trying to grow Deodar cedar. Not the easiest to grow but maybe the best looking tree there is.
Yeah it's great to see a tree the dinosaurs once stood next to. Plus in high winds you don't have to worry about them.
@@wheelmanstan For Deodar, i have to grow either the "Karl Fuchs" or "Eisregen" cultivars in mid TN because the others are all less hardy. I lost several when temps dropped to -4°F in Dec 2022, but Karl Fuchs still going strong.
Good report on Afghan Pine you gave. We have a new nursery here called Moon Valley and i think they're from Arizona. They have a bunch of Afhgan Pine and i was like "What the heck?" Not going to work in this humidity, although their tolerance for alkaline soils could almost make up for it. If i had a steep south-facing slope with a thin veneer of soil over limestone, i would try one.
@@moseseisley557 I'm a bit new to Deodar and haven't had a lot of success, maybe because the seeds seem pretty recalcitrant, but mostly my fault with either too must moisture or too little. But I have a few and will transplant them one of these days. They start off looking like pine trees, which is interesting. Yeah I'll try Afghan pine again and make sure to really put it out in a wide open high up area where it can really remain dry. I have one in the ground on an alkaline hard clay site and it's doing okay. I'm finding the Aleppo to be a bit hardier with the humidity and I think the Brutia will be even better but the Afghan pine are faster growers. I haven't seen them mature but they start off looking very similar. Beautiful trees. Nellie Stevens Holly are some great trees as well, for screening.
They look like they’re planted too close together. Might be problematic in about 5-7 years.
As specimen trees, you are correct. However, i'm going for a more forest-style dense planting focused on height. My entire tree collection is too close according to the recommended planting distances.
I have two 6y/o Dawn redwoods, one is bonsai.
Which zone are you growing in?
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