SEAKOSS SUGESS - Panda Dial Chronograph REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Hello fellow watch fans! Here is my review of the Seakoss Sugess Panda Dial Chronograph.
You can buy it here;
www.aliexpress.com/item/10050...
Here’s my review of the 2020 Rolex submariner 126613LB - The Bluesy
• Rolex 2020 - 126613LB ...
And my review of the Breitling Top Time Deus
• Breitling TOP TIME DEU...
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Believe it or not, your humour made me smile, I'd usually find it cringy, but you laughing at yourself made it all better hahah!
Thank you kind sir! I know I'd probably get a few more subscribers if I didn't attempt the humour, but that would just be boring - so I give it a go! Thanks again my friend 😃👍
@@SirWatchGeek So I bought this watch, and i love how it looks, and how everything feels maybe except the plastic caseback, but isn't the minutehand way too long? it extends all the way out to the tachymetre, covering the index haha
Thank you. Your review helped me a lot in making decision to buy this watch. I just received it yesterday. All I can say is gorgeous! It looks 20 times more expensive than it is in real life. At first I worried that the dial would look cheap in plain white or bland silver, but is is not. The dial looks fantastic in creamy pearly milky white with a touch of silver. Pictures and videos don't do it justice. I strongly recommend for those who are still hesitate. Get the watch! You will be impressed like me.
I'm really glad to have helped out! As you say - it looks far more expensive than what it is. Enjoy wearing it my friend 😀👍
Great entertaining review as always SWG. Nice looking watch with actively looking movement through the case back. Your way of reviewing is imo the most watchable 😎
Thanks very much for your very kind words! Really appreciated 😊🙏👍
I loved this review and I was laughing the whole way through. The “red tip” bit was one of my favourites haha you definitely have my follow now 😂♥️👏🏾
Hi Alexis - that is so very kind of you to say sir! Really do appreciate that my friend 😊🙏👍
Congrats on the 1K subs, mate, very well deserved. Nice looking homage, looks to be very good VFM.
Thanks buddy - much appreciated 😊🙏
I bumped into this video by chance and thoroughly enjoyed it. I became your subscriber straight away. Great video.
Thank you Sir!
That is very kind of you to say! Thanks very much my friend 😃👍
CONGRATULATIONS my dear friend on 1k subscribers 👏👏👏 Well done and well deserved 👍 I wish you continued success with your channel.
As for this watch, I think it is a lovely piece for the money, and the black leather strap really complemented this watch big time.
Thank you again for your great videos, amazing photography, and your wicked great humor.
All the best always.
Thank you so much my friend! Appreciate your very kind words as always 😊🙏
Lovely review, of a lovely watch, congratulations on 1000 subscribers, richly deserved. 🎉🎉🎉✊
Thanks very much John! 👊
Just found you after looking for a seagull review, love your style and humour! I watch a lot of watch guys and you defo stand out. I’m sub’d !
Hi Adam. That’s very kind of you sir! Really appreciated my friend. I have severe back problems at the moment, but I’ll hopefully return to making more videos very soon. Take care 😀👍
So useful! Thanks a lot mate! I was going to save up for a Hamilton intra-matic panda, but then I felt bothersome to be spending that much on a watch. Then I came across the Orient and that seems a bit overpriced now, but these are right up there with the great value! I’ll probably pick this up and spend the extra money to take my parents on vacation :) Keep it up!
You’re very welcome sir! It certainly scratched that itch for me and it is great value for money. You’ll love it - and what a lovely gesture taking your parents on vacation!
Thanks my friend and take care 😀👍
Mate you only live once and you should buy an amazing timepiece, Hamilton is a awesome watch. I own a Hamilton Khaki Automatic and it only gains 4 seconds a day and not 12 seconds like this chinese Sugess.
@@mohammedtaqi5259 12 seconds is still pretty good in terms of mechanical watches my seiko that i spent close to $400 on is running about +10 which is perfectly acceptable
@@mohammedtaqi5259 it's not that deep, it's really not that deep. If it lost 1 minute a day maybe but still I have a phone to get the most accurate of times. Otherwise I want what I want, stop telling people what to want.
@@mohammedtaqi5259 “you only live once, might as well spend money recklessly” huh?
Love your channel and reviews!!
Love your content, just found you but you bring a smile to my face
Another spot on review well done Nigel..........The OSO has arrived and I love it , even more great news I have found a new job its been a great week so far keep up the great work on the channel cheers Josh
Hi Josh! Great news all round mate! Really pleased for you 👊. and thanks mate 😊🙏
@@SirWatchGeek Thanks for the kind words looking forward to your next review.
Thanks for the great video! I thought that Seakos and Sugess were different companies. Interesting that there was branding for both in the box. I ordered a Panda dial that looks more like the original Seagull, but with silver indexes and the black sub-dials. Great value for these Seagull 1963 watches. It will be my 1st mechanical chronograph.
Thanks buddy! There's nothing better than a nice mechanical watch, and as you say - the Seagull 1963 type (of which there are dozens) really take some beating!
Enjoy it my friend 😃👍
The best explanation for the watch , which I am actually going to buy now , and you actually made me laugh I’m thankful for that
Thanks very much Stephen! Let me know what you think of it 😀👍
Great review! I just stumbled across your channel and I’m liking it, you have another subscriber here!👍🏻 Incidently, I have ordered one of these many different dial variants of the 1901 chronographs out there, and the one I ordered looks virtually identical to your Breitling Top Time! I had no idea that is what it was based on! I’ll do a review once it arrives. Cheers, and keep the reviews coming!👍🏻
Hi Chris. Thanks for that mate! I've just subscribed to you too - keep up the great work 😃👍👊
Congrats on 1k mate, see that double in no time! Lovely looking watch, Sugess produce a few lookers, they also make some chinese Tourbillons, which are definitely worth a look!
Thanks Jase! Appreciate that mate 🙏. I'll check out those Tourbillons 😃👍
I couldn't agree more with everything you said. I just bought the panda suggess for my father for christmas. Thanks for this amazing Review.
Thanks very much my friend! And what a super Christmas gift for your dad. He's going to love it! 😃👍
Hey loved the review. I hope your channels grows beyond your wildest imagination. This sort of narration and video style needs to reach a bigger audience.
That is so very nice of you to say! Thanks very much my friend 😀👍
I just ordered the salmon dial version of this, great review - subscribed 👍
Thanks very much my friend! And congrats on the purchase 😃👍👍👍
Congrats mate on the 1K subs it's well deserved , as for the watch , I really do like it and have thought about buying it a couple of times but that 50+mm lug to lug is just too long for me :( but it does look great especially side to side with the Breitling
Thanks very much Alan! Totally agree with the lug to lug - it's right on the limit! 😄👍
There is a 38mm version with I think 47-48mm lug to lug but the dial design and chronograph hand are different. I like the 40mm version too but the lug to lug length is keeping me from pulling the buy trigger
“I GESS I’ll just have to go on with it” hahahah nice review! Subbed!
Thanks very much Jorge! 😄👍👍👍
I see 1000 subscribers. Congratulations!!! The first of many
Thanks Brian! I hope so 😄👍
I didn’t think I would like it, but after this vid, I certainly do! I’m gonna check out some of the other colorways. Thanks!
Thanks buddy! 😃👍
Hi Everyone - I got a 'Diamond Selector II" and I tested the watch: front glass is indeed sapphire (not the back)! 😉
Thank you Sir for that really good and funny review! 👍
Hi David! Thank you very much my friend!
I finally bought a Diamond Selector II (which you may have noticed in my later videos). Very useful bit of kit isn't it!
Take care buddy and thanks again 😃👍👍👍
I've just found your site. Congratulations on all your subscriptions and I'm just adding myself to your list. I love your down-to-earth approach to reviewing. It's the best I have come across. Your light touch is so much better than that of some of the watch snobs you refer to. I love it!
I also love the watch. I recently bought the most Chinese version which has no English markings at all. It really is beautiful and so is the Seagull movement, displayed so well at the back. As a Chinese military watch, its sits nicely alongside my bright red Vostok Komandirskie - another great but quite different piece.
Finally, I also have the Steeldive Captain Willard that you are wearing. Mine is the bronze version and apart from a few problems with the crown, I love it. The Steeldive 'Submariner' homage watch is also incredible. I could never afford a Rolex or the like and I am very happy with watches in this, hugely cheaper, bracket. I wonder, as no doubt loads of others have, what will happen to the pricing of some of the big players, given the quality and price of these homages?
Keep up the great work! I'm already looking forward to your next review.
Hi Philip! That's incredibly kind of you to say good sir! I nearly bought the Chinese version, and I may still do actually 😄 and I'd also like another Vostok too - I think a Komandirskie is very tempting. How are you finding the bronze Steeldive? I've yet to be tempted by a bronze watch, has it paternated (is that the right word?) yet? or are you keeping it nice and shiny? I'm also tempted by the Sub homage! You've made some excellent choices there 😃👍.
In terms of pricing, I don't think the big players are too worried. You only have to look at how scarce Rolex's are at the moment - such a huge waiting list!
I've got huge back problems at the moment (I'm waiting news on a possible operation) which has dampened my enthusiasm - but I'll be back to posting more soon.
Take care my friend! 😃👊
@@SirWatchGeek Thanks for getting back to me - I really appreciate that. I am three months into the watch collecting obsession, so I have loads to learn and I am working through your reviews. My previous obsessions have included shoes and hats. I have recently had a drastic shoe cull, from 22 pairs to 19...
From my experience with shoes, I am a great fan of patination, so I am letting my bronze Steeldive mature alongside its owner (who is over- mature). I am very, very pleased with the Steeldive Submariner homage. It's the one with the green face ( again, I refer you to the owner). It is beautifully made and the steel strap seems solid and doesn't rattle. I have had slight problems with both Steeldives which are about screwing down the crowns. I think I have got the hang of it now. From having seen the Pagani, in person, I think the Steeldive is definitely the better watch.
My favourites, so far, are probably the Vostok and the 'Chinese' Seagull. Both seem to have loads of personality and solidness.
My poshest watch is a bottom of the range Frederique Constant which was a present from my wife. It is probably the poshest I will get to and is beautiful. My plan is to concentrate on lower end watches that are quirky, well made and good to look at. Oh, and that work. I have already had two duds.
I do hope your back improves and remember to keep moving, if you can. All the best and look after yourself. 😀👍
Hi Philip! I've only been collecting for just over 2 years now, and I think I'm now up to 33 watches 😳😄. It certainly is an obsession!
My Q&A video touched on why we collect things, it is just built in to us for some bizarre reason. I laughed out loud when you stated you'd cut your shoe collection down from 22 to 19 - you have a great sense of humour 😆. Fortunately, I've not been bitten by collecting anything else.....yet!
Enjoy your collecting my friend. Keep in touch and let me know what you get next.
And thanks for your kind words again! Take care 😊🙏
@@SirWatchGeek Well, Sir, it didn't take me long to get another one. My wife just bought me a Citizen Eco-Drive, Promaster Tough, titanium, also known as the Ray Mears. BN0118-12L
I love the idea of the word 'tough' in the name of something. What a great watch. I hope it is one that you can review when you are feeling up to it. All the best and do keep moving, if you can.
Well that didn't take long indeed! 😆 What a lovely present from your good lady. And a super specced watch too - "....weather proof design, shock resistant materials and extreme temperature resistance (-10c to +60c). It is also anti-magnetic, ISO-compliant and is water resistant to 300 metres. Featured with a Super Titanium™ case...."
I'll definitely have to see if I can get hold of one to review!
And thanks again for your kind words. My doctor has just doubled my dosage of Tramadol 😳, which so far, hasn't made a scrap of difference....😜😄.
Take care my friend! 😃👊.
Watched this with one on my wrist haha
Honestly its an amazing watch for the price. Looks amazing on a black/grey stingray strap.
As for it being a "Homage"..... Seriously? Every watch maker back in the 50's and 60's were churning these out like they were going out of fashion.
Hi Mickey! Couldn't agree more mate. And that strap option sounds interesting! Currently got mine on a Horus orange rubber strap and it looks amazing too! 😃👍
Very good reviews.i get tempted to buy after seeing your reviews. Bought 5 watches in a month after a pause of 10 years of buying any watches.
Thank you sir! So you've got the watch buying bug again 😄. What have you bought? 👍
Like it, looks pretty. Had a 1963, was a good watch that kept time well, sold it because 38mm just felt too small - could be tempted by this one tho. Thank you Sir 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Steve! I've been looking at the 1963 for a while - but decided on this in the end. And totally agree about the size! This 40mm wears just right. I've got 7" wrist (forgot to say in the review 🙄😄)
Thanks for the post on Instagram. This is my UA-cam until I get a watch related one up and running. Love your channel.
Thanks my friend! I’ve just subscribed to you 😀👍👊
That "Sugesst" pun at the beginning made me subscribe immediately. :)
Thank you so much! Very kind of you. Just don’t expect any subsequent videos to be any funnier....😄👍
hahah I subbed to that pun too
@@paulk257 😁🙏🙏🙏
Simply ripping mate ! (I'm from California so I always wanted to say those words) Yes, good video and keep up the good work and not taking yourself too seriously ! Its all just for enjoyment. Best regards !
Congrats on the 1K subs!
Thank you so much 😀
Great review! You’ve got another sub here in Manila Phiilippines🇵🇭
Thanks very much Alexander! 🤗
Great review 😊👍 Apologies, I thought I'd already subscribed! Congratulations on 1000 subscribers. Beautiful looking watch and VFM😍
Thanks mate! Really appreciated 😃👍
Just subscribed back 😄. Keep up the great work mate - I'll be viewing your vids later today! 😃👍
@@SirWatchGeek Fantastic! Love to know what your thoughts are 😊👍
I’m thinking about buying this watch. You just helped me along. Thanks
Thanks Christopher - glad I could help! I'm sure you'll love it if you get one 😃👍
Very entertaining and helpful review. Very impressed with this one. Looks great. Swans neck regulator is a useful feature for people like me who get stressed trying to regulate conventional movements.
Thanks very much my friend! I'm going to have to pluck up the courage to have a go myself at regulating it - try and get that +12 seconds down a bit! 😄👍
@@SirWatchGeek Hope it goes well! You should be able to get it super accurate
Enjoyed this immensely! No drivel here. Subscribed!
Excellent video thanks mate...hope to see another very soon!
Thanks Gareth! I'm going to try and post more regularly from now on 😃👍
So glad I watched your video because this watch is truly impressive for the price it is the poor man's Hamilton and traumatic but even surpasses that with the open case back got it in the 40 mm with the champagne finish and it gives it a vintage look replace the strap immediately with a more expensive black leather and it took it to the next level and looking luxurious everyone should have this pilot watch in their collection definitely worth every penny
Nice one mate! That's great to hear 😃👍
Great watch, great price, couldn't even get the Breitling serviced for that money. Based on the old workhorse Venus 175 that the Chinese bought. Incidentally, this movement was also used by Breitling & many others in the past.
Great info John - thanks buddy 😀👍
Brilliant vid really love the humor
Thank you Fazeel - that's really appreciated 😊🙌
Congrats on 1K
Thank you Ben 😃👍
Another great video, great looking watch!
Thank you kindly! Appreciate that my friend 😃👍
First of all, great review!
I was interested by this particular model as it seems to be the most conventional of the 1963’s.
I would have liked solid hands instead of lume and a brush finish that could give more versatility.
Got a kick out of you making the squeaking noise when polishing, been mulling one of these Chinese chronographs for a while. Great video! Subscribed as well
Thanks very much my friend! Really appreciate that 😊🙏.
As for the watch, you really can't go wrong at the price! 😃👍
@@SirWatchGeek Can't argue with that!
I ordered one during the Ali anniversary sale. Man, I can't wait for it to arrive. Coming very, very soon. Someday, I'll get the Hamilton Intra-matic, but this will do just fine in the meantime.
Excellent mate! I saw the Breitling Premier in my AD's window yesterday - £6600. Went home and immediately put the Seakoss on - I thought that'll do me just fine too! 😄👍
Lovely video. I just ordered :)
Thank you Andrew. I'm sure you'll love it - it's a great watch! 😀👍
Thanks for a great revue. I have a problem. Dont like homages, yet the case of the sugess/seagull is in my opinion so much softer and pleasing to the eye compared to the hamilton and breitling. To be honest i sort of bought my first watch and thougt a few friends would ask what it was. Today i have a few more watches (not friends:)). Nothing really fancy but only for my own pleasure. Not one single person in my comunity has asked what i got on my wrist since i became interested in whatches. Ok, my wife and kids are roling there eys in despaire for every new piece. Nice to be able to anoy a few souls anyway.
Thanks for your comments Fred! Yeah - I've not had anyone outside the watch community ask me what I'm wearing either! 😄 It really is a case of buy and wear what pleases you. Even though there a plenty of microbrand watches out there, it's pretty hard to ignore the homages! Take care my friend, and enjoy your watches 😃🙌
I think this is a great vid I've ordered one of these thanks 👍
Thanks Michael! You won't be disappointed 😃👍
Hi I'm a happy subscriber. Nice review wad a fun watch
Thank you sir! Really appreciated 😀🙌
Thanks for this review boss, just grabbed one myself after watching :)
Nice one Kristian! You'll love it 😃
@@SirWatchGeek came today (7 days to the UK) and I'm really impressed at the value on offer. I bought it mainly to test out if I should buy the very similar Hamilton intra matic chrono but I might just keep this. For the price I'm sure it's the best bang for buck you can get
@@Spit87 Excellent mate! If it scratches that itch even for a short while, it's been a good purchase 😄👍
Congratulations sir very entertaining lovely looking watch great video looking forward to the next one 👍
Thanks Patrick 😃👍
me encanti tu video, tienes un gran sentido del humor y haces reir, estaba entre un pierre pauline o un sugess pero creo que el tema del cristal es muy importante para mi. Saludos desde Chile
Greetings Rolf! Thank you very much for your kind words my friend. Do all the Pierre Paulin versions have acrylic crystal? 😀😀
Great video as always and congrats on the 1K. Love the Captain Willard, I've just bought the same watch and it's superb. I like the Seakoss/Sugess/Seagul and have been eyeing up the 1963 40mm but I also like the auto version with the ST1708 (I think?). Any views on this version?
Thanks Gary! 👍
I have to say, I'm not familiar with that one at all. Going to do some research today! 😄
Keep me informed if you get one 😃👍
Looks not bad for the money. I like having a red tip you know you have had a god time then 😂😂 good vid mate as ever
😆😆😆 Cheers mate 🙏👊
That red tip joke was quite salty:) As for the panda style - almost gives me those Hamilton Intra-matic vibes
😆 Nice one Max 👍👊
That’s it!! I’m buying it now
Nice one! You'll love it 😀👍
Great looking watch and enough minor differences to make it not a carbon copy. I wish it copied the Breitling pushers though!
The gap issue with the link and case can actually be addressed quite easily. You just press the two holders that face down and it will close the gap 😊
Ooh thanks Bill! You learn something every day! I'll have a look at that next time I change the strap 😃👍
I got myself the 38mm version, best value watch I ever bought
Totally agree with you there Antonio! 😀👍
Hi ya very entertaining video. I’m looking at getting one of these watches. Thanks for the entertainment.
Thanks David! They definitely represent great value for money 😃👍
great video, thanks! :)
Thanks very much Jack 😃🙌
Great video 👍😁
Thanks very much! Very kind of you to say 😊🙏
trés bonne revue merci ... vous etes sympatique !
Merci beacoup pour vos aimables paroles, mon ami 😀🙏
Im tossing up (off?) between one of these and a Seagull 1963 40mm. Both appeal to me for different reasons .
Interesting piece. Good thing you slapped it on a leather strap....looks way better 👌
Thanks Maarten! 😃👍
Just found your channel! Love it! You a fellow Brummie?
Thanks Lee! Appreciate that mate.
Sort of! (Does my accent give me away? 😆) Most of my life in Shirley, then 20 years in Redditch, and now in Worcester. Which part of Brum are you from?
@@SirWatchGeek As a watch geek myself I found it soothing to hear a midlands accent on watch UA-cam. 😂
I’ve spent a lot of time in Shirley at Virgin gym and I have family in the area. I’m from Bordesley Village by the Blues ground and then moved to Yardley. I don’t live in England anymore though, I moved to the Canary Islands 6 years ago.
@@leeharris5135 Nice one Lee! I'm ever so slightly envious of where you live now! We'd love to move over there but Brexshit kind of scuppered our plans there ☹️.
Are you on Instagram? And what's in your collection?
It’s a beauty, and I like the movement even more
You're not wrong Bill! 😃👍
@@SirWatchGeek im not an expert on watch movements but a few reviews by watch journals were saying these Seagull movements has the configuration or capacity that you usually see in high end luxury Swiss watches. I don’t really remember the rest of the technical details, I only just keep those comments in mind : )
I've just been doing a bit of research 😄. I've lifted the following info from another website:
"The Seagull ST19 may be the only choice currently for an affordable, fully mechanical chronograph movement, but it's also a great one regardless of what else is on the market. It boasts features that chronographs several times its cost don't have, while remaining a relatively dependable calibre.
First, it's an integrated chronograph movement , meaning that the chronograph complication is built into the main timekeeping mechanism. It's the original, but also more complicated way to construct the movement. However, because it functions as a cohesive whole, an integrated chronograph calibre is easier to maintain and service. Other alternatives, such as the ETA 2894 and SII NE88, while both great movements, are modular. As the name indicates, the chronograph mechanism in these is a separate component attached to the top of the main timekeeping module. While this makes them easier to manufacture, the separate modules make operation a little more finicky and repairs much more difficult (thus expensive).
Second, the ST19 sports a column wheel. It requires extremely precise tolerances, and is more labor-intensive to produce than the alternative cam-actuated method. But its great advantage is it allows for a smooth chronograph action. The popular Valjoux/ETA 7750, for example, is cam-actuated, but even though it is much more expensive, its pusher action is a lot more clunky than that of the ST19.
Third, the ST19 has a long, rich history, beginning in 1961 when the Swiss movement manufacturer Venus (now defunct) sold its machinery, tooling, and blueprints for its 175 calibre to the Tianjin Watch Factory. The goal was to make Project 304, a watch for the Chinese Air Force. Thus, the ST19 is effectively the direct descendant of the Venus 175, with a few refinements added along the way (17 vs. 19 jewels, higher beat rate of 21,600 bph), and of course, now produced in a modern manufacture. Some express concerns about reliability, but many can be attributed to prejudices against anything made in East Asia (despite the fact that we're all reading this on the screen of highly-advanced technology made there). There's also the reality that chronographs are a great deal more complicated than conventional three-hand movements. By its nature, a chronograph needs more moving parts, thus requiring more maintenance-whether quartz, mechanical, Chinese or Swiss.
Overall, the ST19 may just be the best bang-for-buck chronograph movement available on the market today. It's got the romance of being fully mechanical, with crisp action thanks to its column wheel. Its integrated construction makes maintenance relatively easy, and on top of that, we're doing all we can to make sure it lasts you for many years to come."
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@@SirWatchGeek Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
Here is what I copied from a review article:
“The 21,600 vph movement was specifically designed with shock protection in mind.
Without using chronograph features, the power reserve will last about 45 hours. Also, the caliber uses a column wheel, which is a design usually found on much pricier timepieces. This gives the pusher button a lighter feel.”
planning on getting this, is the Swan Neck option worth the extra bucks? or the non swan neck version will do just fine?
Depends on what the price difference is, I guess? It's a nice extra feature to have, but in reality, I doubt whether it will be needed 👍
@@SirWatchGeek the difference isnt that great.. I opted for the swan neck instead.. thank you!
@@yobmas722 Enjoy my friend! 😀🙌
Lift angle is 52 degrees - how are you finding the accuracy during day to day use?
Rewatching this to help me choose between this and the Dan Henry 1963 👍👍👍
Have you decided? The Dan Henry is lovely for sure, but for me, the appeal of a handwinding movement with display case back over the meca-quartz wins every time 😄👍
@@SirWatchGeek I haven’t yet, the Dan Henry is a homage to the Breitling Co-Pilot I believe and is in theory limited so in many ways it makes sense to get that one first, I’ve just seen my old comment about getting a Salmon dial one of these which I did and it was great but I ended up having to send it back because it had a hair sticking out of the movement 😔 I like the ruggedness offered by the meca-quartz but as you say the manual wind ones are very tempting 😁 I’m trying to save for a Black bay 36 but a Breitling or two is on my hit list for the future for sure!
This analisys fits to seagull models made by seakoss or sugess?
Saludos desde mexico, excelente pieza por cierto
Gracias mi amigo! 😃👍
How can you not like this guy 😂
Is very nice watch
Is the watch case made of stainless steel? Im considering to buy that in future.
It is indeed! 316L I believe 😃👍
About to pull the trigger.
But hesitant between white panda or creamy beige one
Hi Dr. Omar. That's a tricky decision - there's too much choice isn't there! I think the creamy dial gives a more vintage feel, while the white dial makes it more fresh and new. Does that make sense? I don't know if I'm talking rubbish or not! 😄. It's a great value watch whichever you choose and I don't think you'll focus on the dial colour too much when you get it 😃👍
You can check if it is really sapphire by checking how it is reacting to water droplet on top of it. It is a cheap and easy way to check for that.
Great info my friend! How does the water droplet differ between sapphire and non-sapphire?
@@SirWatchGeek I've a video but in french, watch?v=zMQ8wA0PR-Q but there are english subtitles.
@@SirWatchGeek But it is still not 100% accurate, but it still give you a good idea of what kind of glass it'll most likely be.
@@RmDIrSudoSu That was a really interesting and useful video! thanks for that my friend! I will now take my Diamond Selector II and some water, and test all my watches! 😃😃👍👍👍👍
@@SirWatchGeek You're welcome. :)
hello can i ask you because i am confused between sugess and sea gull . I mean i saw that sugess make sea gull 1963 and i thought that they are the same company but it turned out that sugess is just copying ? i really like the designs but i dont want to tale a fake watch . can you enlighten me over this ?
Hi Stelios. It can be very hard to understand the Chinese watch market! A lot of Chinese watches from different brands are made in the same factories with very subtle design differences (if at all!)
Sugess is just a fairly recent brand that markets many Sea-gull type designs.
Have a look at one of 'Just One More Watch' videos from some time back in which he talks about whether the Sea-gull watches are indeed genuine or fake. 😃👍
Great informative video,lovely watch,what is strap width?
Thanks Joe! Lug width is 20mm 😃👍
@@SirWatchGeek Thanks,I might get one of those watches,love the movement
@@joemyers9893 It's great value for money - you won't be disappointed!
@@SirWatchGeek Yes I had a Phylida one with the same movement,I believe its the Seagull ST19,great watch
I just ordered the exact watch you had listed the link for (opted for the leather strap and swan neck), I should have asked first, but does anyone have any information regarding all of the different watches that are made with this movement and exact same case with slightly different lettering or colors? What I mean by that is what is the difference between Seagull, Seakoss, Sugess etc. I may have already answered my own question because as far as what I have read the movements are all made by the same manufacturer and it is just a matter of product labelling. I would appreciate any insight.
You have hit the nail on the head there! The Chinese watch market is largely all about the branding from all these 'different companies'
I just received the 38mm version of this watch that I got during the 11.11 sale.
Overall, it's beautiful and it's a nice watch for the price.
However, one thing that is really bothering me, is that the chronometer hand doesn't line up with the 0 position (12 o'clock). It sits right in the middle of 0 and 1s.
I mean, I get it, it's not the most expensive mechanical chronograph out there, and there are some things I can live with at this price point, but damn, if you are going to make a chronograph, better be sure that the chronograph hand lines up at 0, since the point of a chronograph is to record the exact time.
Kinda bummed about this and I'm not really sure what to do, or if there even is something I can do. I know that shipping it back to China with tracking is not worth the cost...
Ahh that's such bad luck! If it's a smidgen off, that's one thing - but halfway between the 0 and 1 would be a bit too much for me too! This is one of those downsides of buying from China - as you say, is it worth the cost of sending it back to get it fixed? I'm not even sure how much a sympathetic watch repairer might charge to have a look at it. Very hard to look past it once you see it too 😕
@@SirWatchGeek I've been playing with the watch and found something interesting.
If I start the chronograph and stop it early, like at 5 or 10s, when I reset it the hand is in between the 0 and 1s mark as I mentioned before.
If I stop it towards the end of the minute, at around 50 or 55s, then when I reset it, the hand is perfectly at 0s, so it seems like when the chronometer is stopped early, there is not enough inertia in the movement to put the hand back in place.
I am not a watch expert, but this seems to indicate poor tolerances in the movement (which I would be somewhat OK given the price).
What do you think?
@@bdpf1744 Well, I've just done a bit of research myself! I filmed the chrono in operation in super slow motion - up to 26 seconds, the hand resets by traveling anti-clockwise. But at 27 seconds (and thereafter) the hand resets by traveling clockwise back to zero! I also noticed that when resetting, the hand carries on about 5 seconds the other way, before settling on zero. I don't know what this ultimately means to be honest in terms of why yours isn't zeroing properly every time! 🤷♂😄
Something wrong with the conversion rates 194 euros = 166 pounds and 145 dollars plus tax and import duty so how much did you pay in total?
You're absolutely right! Well spotted. I think I mixed up the Euro and USD figures. The total cost was £143 which is 168 Euro or $194. Sorry about that! 😄👍
Tolle Uhr, super Uhrwerk, günstiger Preis.
These are very simple to regulate, especially with the installed swans neck.
Should be...if you are lucky like me and get the watch that is fast and its already adjusted to max slow and no more thread on swan neck screw to slow it down even more...
Oh no! How fast is it running Dejan?
What's your wrist size Sir? I want to have an idea on how it will look on my wrist.
Hi Jim. Apologies if I didn't mention this in my review - I have a 7" (17.5cm) wrist. Hope this helps my friend! 😃👍
Review starts at 2:32
Got it today absolutely crap spent most of the day trying to get the thing to work
Rubbish
The movement is not a Seagull, it's a Venus 175, Seagul bought the tooling to make the movement from Venus owner Valjoux of Switzerland.
I'm aware of that my friend! I mention this in a little more detail in my very first review - the Straton Yacht Racer 😃👍
It looks more identical to the Hamilton chronograph.
cool
Thanks! It's definitely great value for money! 😃👍
What is the power reserve sir?
I believe it's 45-50 hours, depending if you have the chronograph running or not 👍
Isnt that watch just a simple copy of the Breitling B01 Chronograph in terms of design?
It can be taken as a 'copy' of any panda style chronograph I suppose! 😄👍
I dont know if someone see's that the minute hand is way too long and its covering minute marks and pointing on tachometer scale...
Hi Dejan. Yes - someone else did point this out. To be honest, I didn't notice 🙄😄 and it doesn't bother me but I had a look around and there are quite a few other watches that have a long minute hand too. I think this however, would be a lot better if it was just a little bit shorter! 😀👍
Fucking hilarious! I subscribed
Oh yeah great review!
Thanks mate! Really appreciate that 😀👍👊
Am I wrong or There is no antireflective coating on the Crystal?
Hi Fabrizio. Yeah - I believe you're right, but in reality it makes very little difference. I've just this minute compared the reflection alongside the Breitling Top Time Deus (which this is very similar in appearance to!) and the reflection is almost identical, but the Top Time reflection has a slightly blue tinge to it.
The absence of any AR coating makes very little difference to the readability of the dial 😃👍
@@SirWatchGeek ok , clear! Thanks a lot for your helpful answer
It's a nice watch for a good price. Brand name is a bit weird, like most Chinese watches.
Thanks Gary. I don’t know where they get these names from! 😄
I’m just editing my comparison of the Sugess homage/copy of the Breitling Top Time Deus. Another cracking watch it has to be said! 👍
A 1 to 1 copy of a Breitling B01. Is that even legal?
Looks like the Pierre Paulin, which is itself a copy of the Breitling Premier B01
Almost identical isn't it! 😃👍
@@SirWatchGeek after doing some research, it appears the Breitling came after the Hamilton Intramatic Chronograph H, which has a similar look. It's a tough one for me. I really don't like it when watches copy designs, but that is usually when the design isn't low-hanging fruit, I.e. when it isn't obvious. If a company puts out a watch that looks like the Seiko Willard, then they are taking a design which they would have never come up with themselves. But this piece seems to be too elemental for one brand to claim it for themselves.
On a side note, I actually prefer the look of this piece compared to the Swiss. No-date is the way to go. The Chinese seem to get this.
@@trevbarlow9719 Thanks for that Trev! And I totally agree with you 👍👍👍