James... mate... the Two Towers has a major scene in a swamp. A spooky swamp. With ghosts. And what goes great in a spooky swamp with ghosts? The guy yelling Rodney. Please, for thr people, do what needs to be done
Best way to sum up what is gripping the minds of the modern young man. A new outlet is needed for them and giving them good examples of male friendships should be the next move to get us out of this manosphere nightmare.
I think I've seen about 80% of these garbage caravans and I've rarely if ever seen James get so genuinely thrilled, passionate, and enthusiastic for the story telling of a movie as he does here. People feel so different when they talk about something they really love and have a lot of respect for and that vibe is clear from like 19:00 onwards. _Professional James_ . Love it!
you're so right, it's awesome to listen to someone speak passionately about t topic. I also LOVE when they hate stuff, it is so fun to listen to a genuine roast of a bad movie lol
One of my favorite quotes about Tolkien and the phenomenal impact of his work is from Terry Pratchett, another fantasy giant. "J.R.R. Tolkien has become a sort of mountain, appearing in all subsequent fantasy in the way that Mt. Fuji appears so often in Japanese prints. Sometimes it's big and up close. Sometimes it's a shape on the horizon. Sometimes it's not there at all, which means that the artist either has made a deliberate decision against the mountain, which is interesting in itself, or is in fact standing on Mt. Fuji."
Aragorn is peak masculinity. A good dude, an absolute badass, a capable leader, incredibly resourceful, honest, in touch with his emotions and respects the women in his life.
Fun fact: my favorite segment of Caravan of Garbage (which they do every week without exception) is Thoughts and Prizes. I hope one day I'm the one to win a prize.
He was obviously going to say that elves evolved from birds and have hollow bones. But he realized it didn't warrant a mention because everyone knows that. It's clearly established canon.
@@zhitchcresttail3387 it gets even funnier when the Fellowship reunites, Frodo says everyones name except for Legolas, he just stares at him, it looks like he cant remember ever meeting Legolas
@@gandalfthewhite4245 - A lot of people stop watching before they get to the scene where Legolas realises that he died right after the council meeting and has been a ghost following the fellowship around.
Ages ago a friend of mine was homeless and his routine became, wake up in the flop house, Strip his bed, eat breakfast and kicked out by 8am, Steal enough to sell for enough to pay for his habit and then, he had nothing to do. So he went to a highstreet bookstore and saw the 50th anniversary lotr books - and stole the Fellowship of the Ring. He would then go and sort himself out and then sit in a public "mall kinda place(?)" that he could directly see the homeless shelter from where he sat, and he just read the lotr all day until the shelter opened. He did pay for the Two Towers book, but not for the Return of the King....😔 but, he read trilogy cover to cover over 4 times before his space at a rehab was approved. Those books meant so much.....he essentially just lived in middle earth for over 10 hours every day. They saved him....
@devindalton4688 Stop trying to indoctrinate people into your death cult. That "salvation" that you think exists. It's all fake, but since you've been indoctrinated since birth, you'll never think critically. The book you worship justified not only slavery but infantside, and reepe. Genuine people wouldn't worship such a book
Honestly, I enjoy them more than the actual films. I love all the effort that went into the production design, effects, costumes,, makeup, cinematography, etc. The dialogue and performances not so much.
@@MrOtistetraxthat’s so real. Watching the appendices and actually understanding how these things were made was just so amazing. I think it made me enjoy the movies more as well, just because I knew what was under the hood and the love that went into it all
@@toppaismeit’s like a reverse Wizard of Oz. Beloved movie that you wish you didn’t know anything about the production of it. With these movies, they’re so great and so beloved because every single person was so passionate and invested in making them the best movies they could possibly be, and making sure they were looking out for each other throughout the whole process.
The 19 hours of the BTS documentary is the reason I work in the film industry today. I've watched them as many times as I have the films haha. I even wrote an essay for my degree comparing the New Line Offical BTS docs and the Costa Botes versions and that whole thing! Thw director commentaries are also incredible, and there's 4 of them, for each film!
"To break these up, we're going to do like we did with the prequels and put out episodes with the video games in between so it's not as much work." 2 years ago: "I don't know why we decided to do video game episodes in between the movie episodes. This is so much work. I'm so tired of this."
James thought at first that he'd be able to resist the corruption. But by the time he stood at the edge... he wondered if he really should cast the idea into the void... "No." And he turned away, keeping his prize. Knowing, in his corrupted heart, that he would make the video game segments work for him.
Ita a product of our modern profit driven world where even friendship is commodified. There is no monetary reason to be loyal and respectful quite the opposite
@@ThreadBomb a diverse group of mates being good, keeping eachother accountable, looking out for each other, doing rad shit, getting fake mad at each other and then being like “I’m not really mad I’m Doing a big smile actually”
Return of the king will the be end of the most anticipated CoG series of the past decade. Please James, bring back blue harvest or Rodney to see out this magnificent series.
Perhaps when Gimli said "and my Axe," he was actually referring to the body spray he always cares with him, and that way, the Fellowship could smell fresh throughout their travels?
nah that can't be it. there weren't nearly enough beautiful women instinctually flocking to the fellowship. if anyone's wearing axe body spray it's Aragorn and he's bogarting the stuff.
Honestly, I kind of hope it was. This is the one situation where Axe body spray would be preferable to the travel funk they probably had going. BTW, Axe is called Lynx in the UK, Australia, and some other places.
Fun fact, in the books Sauron, still weakened from the divine intervention of the Drowning of Numenor, was defeated in 2 on 1 combat by Elendil and Gil-Galad. (That's right, Sauron at the Battle of the Last Alliance was weaker than he had been just a century before) Both High Kings were killed (Gil-Galad was incinerated by Sauron's hands) and Sauron's new body was gravely injured. Isildur then used his fathers broken sword to cut the Ring from the downed Enemy, at which point Sauron's spirit fled. So no, Sauron did not reach with his Ring hand and get his fingers chopped off like a bloody moron. He more or less got looted.
I haven’t read the books in awhile (too long!) but I seem to recall it being a 5 on 1 fight with Gil-Galad, Elendil, Isildur, Elrond, and someone else fighting Sauron.
I like to picture Boromir has the most want for the ring as he sees it as the object with the power to fix all of their problems, and the ring knows that and just keeps goin "yeah mate. I can. Just take me it's all good!"
You know the boys liked the movie when the entire episode is just nonstop fanboy talk without taking a single pause to breathe lol. Hyped for next week
Little known fact: Peter Jackson actually considered including the two blue wizards, Alator and Pallando, in the extended cut of Fellowship. But it would have been too inconsistent with the established lore. Jackson, who of course wanted to stay true to the books, was quoted saying: "It's an interesting idea to include the blue wizards, but let's harvest it for another time.". Which actually led the working title of this movie to be "Blue Harvest", which coincidentally was the working title for Star Wars: Episode IV - First Star Wars.
@kirbyone oh yeah dude, for literally ANY other topic I'd have picked it. But I've watched and read enough LOTR lore on the Blue Wizards that my brain didn't catch it until too late
Fun Fact: I tear up at multiple points in this movie, and absolutely ball like a baby during the whole Frodo drowning scene. I am a 45 year old man, a cancer survivor, a father of two, i've seen some shit. Yet this movie about little dudes on a bro expedition hits harder than everything.
One of my favorite bits is when they are doing an “impression” of someone, but the voice is just like a grubby voice and then they have the person say their own name at the end so we all know who’s talking. Gets me every time. And that’s genuine btw, it really cracks me up 😂
No joke, when Fellowship came out on dvd, I watched it every night for at least a month straight. I was obsessed with these movies. I saw each of them in theaters a minimum of 3 times. Fellowship being the most at I think 6 times? Less for the others because of job hours between friends being difficult to work out viewings together). I'm still upset I missed the reshowing they did in theaters this year. I managed to catch RotK by the time I'd heard it was a thing. :( Would have killed to see Fellowship on the big screen again though.
Every year my Dad and I watch all the Harry Potter movies and we watch all of the Lord of the Rings movies and the all the bonus features. I’ve been watching the behind the scenes features since the extended version were first released and it still blows me away how unparalleled these films are when it comes to movie making. The incredible prep work, the innovative post production and the timelessness that these films have. It still shocks me that these movies came out in the early 2000s and still hold up incredibly well today
James is really onto something with the whole 'this is what dudes need' point. Yeah. Grab yourselves some bros and go on a quest. There's a great Cinema Therapy video about Aragorn that's basically an essay on how he's the best bloke. Also, I once recorded an EP on the farm of the head fletcher for these movies. He had a shed full of those thick arrows and a load of Legolas' bows. I only found out after the third or fourth recording session and had no idea why anyone wouldn't lead with that fact immediately.
The cheer I let out when I heard Thoughts & Prizes was back was the biggest reaction I’ve had to something since the Flash entered the speed force in Zack Snyder’s Justice League League. Truly a certified crowd cheer moment, even though I’m watching this alone in the dark.
Without knowing this would drop today, I’ve started watching the Rings of Power series yesterday. These movies are very precious to me so I always dreaded watching the series. But I gave it chance and halfway through the second episode I stopped because it was genuinely ttrash and put Fellowship on because I needed to see again what Middle Earth really feels like. Then boom I see this dropped today. Life is good.
I for one love the books and think these movies are like the gold standard for adaptation of book to film. Love them both. So glad you guys are covering this series!
fun fact: when they were cleaning up after all of the production work had done (ie hobbiton), they felt quite depressed when they were clearing away all the plants they had planted. as a result, this led to the working title of the trivia being known as blue harvest, which was the original working title of 1977's star wars
Came late to this party. But finished watching more than 300 Caravan of Garbage episodes in a week (I avoided the ones on games). Feels like I've reached Mt. Everest to see this one 7 hours into uploading.
The fellowship of the Ring is my favourite, the actors are all excellent, they did a really good job of setting up the world and the stakes, music was epic the cinematography was epic and I just think it was the strongest most focused entry of the three. Maybe it’s because after the fellowship goes their own way in two towers their stories diverge until return of the king
@@ThreadBomb I mean I don’t wanna rag on people who didn’t know this was part of a trilogy of films, but it’s like infinity War people went and saw it didn’t know there was a sequel planned and everyone thought that the end was unsatisfying. With this I think it leaves very clear steaks as to the situation going into the next film, the fellowship has broken up, Boromir and Gandalf are seemingly dead, Fred and Sam are travelling together to Mordor, the rest of the fellowship is going to save the other hobbits from the orcs. But again I say all this with the benefit of 20+ years hindsight
never make a newcomer watch the extended editions first. You always start with the theatrical cut and once they are hooked you show them the extended versions. Although the theatrical cut of Return of the King is the better version anyways
As a massive fan of these films, I was genuinely nervous for this CoG in case you felt kind of lukewarm going back to these films. An absolute joy to hear you discuss it so passionately. So glad to see Maso didn't say something controversial like that time he said all Jurassic Park films are of equal quality.
5:19 The credible reason some readers don't think that these (great) films are good adaptations is that the films Hollywood-ified a lot of aspects of the original books (Aragorn's character for one). Don't get me wrong, I love these films! But if you go ahead and *actually read* Fellowship of The Ring, it's a very different kind of adventure. The Hobbits on the first leg of the journey have a whole mini-adventure with a bunch of close calls where they prove themselves to be quite capable - all before they even meet Aragorn. It's a lot slower and more deliberate and more connected with the landscape and grounded in the trekking/survival aspects of the journey. It's hard to explain, you just have to read the books. These movies are GREAT!! But they don't *really* capture the essence of Tolkien. They are their own incredible thing with their own vibe. Clearly what they did capture was the love of the filmmakers for the world of LoTR. The Art Direction / Production Design is absolutely incredible. There was clearly a lot of passion there. But it's hard to adapt literature to a big budget Hollywood blockbuster format without making a ton of "sacrifices" aka new creative decisions that radically depart from the source material. And that's kind of the thing... you have to. Because as I said, this is a Hollywood blockbuster. You can't have that and then do a faithful adaptation where it's 30-60 minutes per chapter. It needs to all fit together in roughly 2 hours, or you won't get the budget. In order to get a "good" adaptation, you'd need a tremendous amount of faith from a studio OR raise literally millions of dollars directly from fans. Yes, I've worked on treatments for a 1 episode per chapter adaptation myself. It's not impossible to write or shoot. But it quickly becomes apparent that it would be cost prohibitive to film with Production Design even approaching the level of these legendary films.
When I was six my parents sat me down and said "hey we want to take you to this movie that will be way more violent and scarier than anything you've seen but it will also be one of the best movies ever created and become a formative part of your childhood and shape who you are as a person... whatyareckon?"
9:21 I think you shouldn't downplay the contribution of Alan Lee and John Howe. They were brought in because they were *THE* Tolkien/Lord of the Rings artists. They were responsible for how most readers saw the world of LOTR, so it was only natural that they should shape the movie version (which Jackson didn't have to do but, to his credit, he did).
I don't feel they downplayed it. They called it out, but had to move on for time. Same with Howard Shore. Even with all that, the video is still very long for a CoG.
Love that it's been 20 years and I'll immediately jump on any video heaping praise and revealing trivia on these films I've seen countless times. One piece of stability in a fucked world.
Best movie ever, will never be repeated. Everything in this movie was on the scale of grandeur, and executed almost flawlessly. It is timeless, it will hold up in a 100 years. The attention to detail in 12 hours of footage, while telling an epic story that never loses your attention. This was absolute peak cinema.
This is absolutely perfect I only truly fell in love with LotR this year watched all the extendeds for my 23rd birthday, listened to all the books while at work, and platinumed both Shadow of Mordor and War, and I found this channel and binged all of CoG these past couple months. I am quite pleased with this.
At the end of all my presentations at work now, I add a "Thoughts and Prizes" slide to get feedback from my coworkers rather than a "questions" slide. Ive explained it as, They give me their thoughts and maybe someone will win a prize. As of yet, no one has won a prize, and one female coworker of mine is getting especially furious that she hasn't won a prize and it's my favorite part of the job. This will probably get me fired 😂😂
26:10 “I know it can fly regardless because it has wings” NO JAMES! THE SCHOLARSHIP IS DIVIDED ON WHETHER THE WINGS ARE VESTIGIAL! YOU’VE ACCIDENTALLY SAID SOMETHING CONTROVERSIAL!!
Fun Fact: The Balrog does not have wings. They were primary foot soldiers in Morgoth's army. Emphasis on foot. The quote from the book *"The shadow about it reached out like two vast wings"* That's what Jackson depicted, shadows spreading out from a creature so evil that its mere presence suffocates the light. Like an aura of darkness.
I'm so glad you guys are finally covering this trilogy. This is my favorite set of films I've seen and i think the best films in the world and sometimes it's nice hearing people praise stuff that i also like. Also i agree this one is the best of the three but not by any significant margin. I just think it hits all the fantasy beats while the others are more focused on the large scale battles
Fellowship is the best of the trilogy, no contest. Viggo Mortensen has expressed it's his favorite because of the gritty realism. You see ruins of civilizations ground to rubble and dust, leaving you wondering what the world looked like before the onset of decay and ruin. What an artfully crafted world, and what a perfect adaptation.
I would be so happy if you included a truncated version of The Hobbit, specifically M4’s The Hobbit Edit: “A fan edit that combines Peter Jackson's The Hobbit trilogy into a more captivating faithfully adapted single-movie experience.” The edit takes over 9 hours of dread and turns it into a pretty solid time at the cinema.
James gushing over this film is what I am here for. I’ve never been more excited for CofG. Thoughts and Prays for Ben and Lawrence. Thank you gentlmen, we salute you. 🫡
LOTR is pretty much my favourite book, or at least one of my all time favs. The movies don't cover everything, and some of it saddens me. However, I totally get why things were changed or excluded. Mostly. Honestly some of the best movies of all time. I think most Tolkien nerds are aligned on this
Ah cool! Thoughts & Prizes is back, I'll pause the video here and wait by my front door as my T&P delivery from last season should be arriving. Cheers Lads 🎉
Submission for Thoughts an Prizes: Thought: "And you have my bow" is the only time Legolas ever speaks to Frodo in the entire trilogy. Meanwhile Frodo never utters a word to Legolas. Not sure why they hate eachother. Prize: Do the extended editions you cowards.
It's honestly depressing beyond words, how we will never, ever get movies on this kind of scale, this kind of passion, this kind of creative freedom, this kind of exceptionally honed quality.... ever again.
Weirdly, this was basically the end of art in cinema. And I'm not saying this as some weird fanboy. We just don't see movies like this getting made anymore. Nobody is going to put this kind of work into a big budget movie today.
I love the showdown between Gandalf and the Balrog. The Balrog is also a Maiar. It's basically an even match, but Gandalf absolutely squares up. A "servant of the Secret Fire" and "Wielder of the Flame of Anor" is basically him saying "I am a divine agent of good, and I will smite you with the light of the sun." Absolute badass.
James... mate... the Two Towers has a major scene in a swamp. A spooky swamp. With ghosts. And what goes great in a spooky swamp with ghosts? The guy yelling Rodney. Please, for thr people, do what needs to be done
We had blue fields of wheat last time and we didn’t get it. Why should we get it this time?
Because we've been really good boys?
Frodney
Yeah, but now that you've pointed it out, there's a reason for them NOT to include it. THANKS.
Bring back Rodney
"unfuckable dorks telling you how many women to hate" almost goes as hard as this goated trilogy.
*Dorks
#Hobbitsphere
Best way to sum up what is gripping the minds of the modern young man. A new outlet is needed for them and giving them good examples of male friendships should be the next move to get us out of this manosphere nightmare.
Spot. Fucking. On.
I hear 'Unfuckable Dorks' and was reminded of the movie Pixels
I think I've seen about 80% of these garbage caravans and I've rarely if ever seen James get so genuinely thrilled, passionate, and enthusiastic for the story telling of a movie as he does here. People feel so different when they talk about something they really love and have a lot of respect for and that vibe is clear from like 19:00 onwards. _Professional James_ . Love it!
Clearly you’ve never seen James talk about a certain orange feline in boots.
@@vice.nor.virtue He fuckin’ loves Zorro.
you're so right, it's awesome to listen to someone speak passionately about t topic. I also LOVE when they hate stuff, it is so fun to listen to a genuine roast of a bad movie lol
@@Yan-tz9pn I read this and thought "Wait, foxes aren't felines..."
One of my favorite quotes about Tolkien and the phenomenal impact of his work is from Terry Pratchett, another fantasy giant. "J.R.R. Tolkien has become a sort of mountain, appearing in all subsequent fantasy in the way that Mt. Fuji appears so often in Japanese prints. Sometimes it's big and up close. Sometimes it's a shape on the horizon. Sometimes it's not there at all, which means that the artist either has made a deliberate decision against the mountain, which is interesting in itself, or is in fact standing on Mt. Fuji."
GNU Sir Terry ❤
GNU STP. ❤
GNU Terry Pratchett
GNU Terry ❤
Aragorn has this vibe of "Thank God this guy is here." is probably the more accurate description of Aragorn I've ever heard
Aragorn is peak masculinity. A good dude, an absolute badass, a capable leader, incredibly resourceful, honest, in touch with his emotions and respects the women in his life.
Daddy's home energy
@@robjgolde3221not telling Eowin her cooking is garbage was not respecting women. He should’ve been honest with her. I suspect he did wanna hit it.
I love the recurring visual gag in these last few COGs of James and Mason huddled around doing the podcast in the actual film. Very fun touch.
It's brilliant and I can't believe it hasn't been a running thing before! I hope they keep it up
Fun fact: my favorite segment of Caravan of Garbage (which they do every week without exception) is Thoughts and Prizes. I hope one day I'm the one to win a prize.
If you watch this one again, you get a second chance! Good luck mate!
You didn't get your prize? I got my prize. There were tons of prizes.
We won't even win a thought. Lol
You won't. It's a scam.
Maybe the real prizes were the thoughts we had along the way?
I like how James started a thought about Legolas walking on snow and then never got to the point 😅
That he is good at walking on snow
It reminded me of that iconic moment from the hit movie The Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring
That's WHY this Caravan comes with James' equipment.
He was obviously going to say that elves evolved from birds and have hollow bones. But he realized it didn't warrant a mention because everyone knows that. It's clearly established canon.
A legendary moment in this channels history havent been this hyped since the prequels!
Or when they covered the Dark Knight trilogy
@ god i loved that
@@claytonandres1194 Or Snake Eyes!
James’ absolute joy and excitement in this video is so palpable. I need more of this in my life.
Legolas stands and says to Frodo "You have my bow!" and never says another word to him in the entire trilogy
That is an observation that has me dying laughing for some reason
@@zhitchcresttail3387 it gets even funnier when the Fellowship reunites, Frodo says everyones name except for Legolas, he just stares at him, it looks like he cant remember ever meeting Legolas
@@gandalfthewhite4245 "Aragorn! Gimli! And, uh... I want to say, Larry? Lenny? Definitely an L name."
Feel like that one auxiliary friend that ya don't really talk with, but lowkey like having around
@@gandalfthewhite4245 - A lot of people stop watching before they get to the scene where Legolas realises that he died right after the council meeting and has been a ghost following the fellowship around.
Ages ago a friend of mine was homeless and his routine became, wake up in the flop house, Strip his bed, eat breakfast and kicked out by 8am, Steal enough to sell for enough to pay for his habit and then, he had nothing to do. So he went to a highstreet bookstore and saw the 50th anniversary lotr books - and stole the Fellowship of the Ring. He would then go and sort himself out and then sit in a public "mall kinda place(?)" that he could directly see the homeless shelter from where he sat, and he just read the lotr all day until the shelter opened. He did pay for the Two Towers book, but not for the Return of the King....😔 but, he read trilogy cover to cover over 4 times before his space at a rehab was approved. Those books meant so much.....he essentially just lived in middle earth for over 10 hours every day. They saved him....
You never know where salvation awaits.
hope he's doing well now, can't really tell with the way the comment is completely in past tense but hopefully he's fine
That is a beautiful story. Being homeless is hard.
@devindalton4688 Stop trying to indoctrinate people into your death cult. That "salvation" that you think exists. It's all fake, but since you've been indoctrinated since birth, you'll never think critically. The book you worship justified not only slavery but infantside, and reepe. Genuine people wouldn't worship such a book
@@wbennin Being homed is hard too., nowadays.
The "making of" featurettes are just as worth watching as the movies themselves IMO, an amazing achievement all in all.
Honestly, I enjoy them more than the actual films. I love all the effort that went into the production design, effects, costumes,, makeup, cinematography, etc. The dialogue and performances not so much.
@@MrOtistetraxthat’s so real. Watching the appendices and actually understanding how these things were made was just so amazing. I think it made me enjoy the movies more as well, just because I knew what was under the hood and the love that went into it all
@@toppaismeit’s like a reverse Wizard of Oz. Beloved movie that you wish you didn’t know anything about the production of it. With these movies, they’re so great and so beloved because every single person was so passionate and invested in making them the best movies they could possibly be, and making sure they were looking out for each other throughout the whole process.
Oh yes they are great. Dark days the making of Blade Runner is my second fave.
@ Frankly, I wouldn’t enjoy the films at all, otherwise.
Hearing James absolutely fawn over my fave movies of all time for 30 mins straight is pure bliss
The 19 hours of the BTS documentary is the reason I work in the film industry today. I've watched them as many times as I have the films haha. I even wrote an essay for my degree comparing the New Line Offical BTS docs and the Costa Botes versions and that whole thing!
Thw director commentaries are also incredible, and there's 4 of them, for each film!
"To break these up, we're going to do like we did with the prequels and put out episodes with the video games in between so it's not as much work."
2 years ago: "I don't know why we decided to do video game episodes in between the movie episodes. This is so much work. I'm so tired of this."
James thought at first that he'd be able to resist the corruption.
But by the time he stood at the edge... he wondered if he really should cast the idea into the void...
"No."
And he turned away, keeping his prize. Knowing, in his corrupted heart, that he would make the video game segments work for him.
@@rainbowcrash6990Oh my god, is this the culmination of thoughts and prizes??
I was there 3000 years ago, when the COG had a guy yelling RODNEY in every episode.
Wasn't that when James refused to give out the first prize?
Pffft yeah right, next you're going to tell me that there's a version of james that is like him but little
Green Trivia needs to come back as well.
RODNEY!?
I miss RODNEY
„Fellowships are what modern men are missing“
Yes!! I wish more people realized this.
They think a fellowship means get together with other misogynistic neo Nazis and talk about how shit they think women are 😂
What does that even mean?
@@ThreadBomb I'm not sure either tbh.
Ita a product of our modern profit driven world where even friendship is commodified. There is no monetary reason to be loyal and respectful quite the opposite
@@ThreadBomb a diverse group of mates being good, keeping eachother accountable, looking out for each other, doing rad shit, getting fake mad at each other and then being like “I’m not really mad I’m Doing a big smile actually”
Cutting to George Bush the exact moment James says 2001 is some nasty work, I unequivocally approve
Return of the king will the be end of the most anticipated CoG series of the past decade. Please James, bring back blue harvest or Rodney to see out this magnificent series.
Do you mean Rodney?
Rodney sits on that throne
Leroy Jenkins vs Rodney, place your bets!! The newest Netflix live event
Aragorn: "For Rodney"
@@Rozemyne2314”aye, I could do that”
I love whenever we get a movie that James and Mason really love. The energy is so good
Perhaps when Gimli said "and my Axe," he was actually referring to the body spray he always cares with him, and that way, the Fellowship could smell fresh throughout their travels?
nah that can't be it. there weren't nearly enough beautiful women instinctually flocking to the fellowship. if anyone's wearing axe body spray it's Aragorn and he's bogarting the stuff.
Honestly, I kind of hope it was. This is the one situation where Axe body spray would be preferable to the travel funk they probably had going.
BTW, Axe is called Lynx in the UK, Australia, and some other places.
I remember watching Sean Bean's death in this movie as a child and thinking "this is the most violent thing I've ever seen in my life."
my kid had the same experience watching Total Recall
You didnt watch IT TV series or Saw 😂
legit. anyone can do splatter; gore is easy. communicating true _violence_ on such a visceral level is hard.
@@mikey-wl2jt exactly it felt like very impactful but not in a gratuitous way
It always stuck with me, even as a child.
22:36 That "dead" Orc flinches as Viggo jumps over him, and the other one sits up suddenly to look at Viggo. Never noticed that before.
I’m absolutely here for Masoruman and James Gandolf-ini.
Though they did cast against type and give MASON the white hair.
Gottem.
When I see that this weeks CoG is 31 minutes I know that I’m in for the greatest UA-cam moment of the year
Fun fact, in the books Sauron, still weakened from the divine intervention of the Drowning of Numenor, was defeated in 2 on 1 combat by Elendil and Gil-Galad. (That's right, Sauron at the Battle of the Last Alliance was weaker than he had been just a century before)
Both High Kings were killed (Gil-Galad was incinerated by Sauron's hands) and Sauron's new body was gravely injured. Isildur then used his fathers broken sword to cut the Ring from the downed Enemy, at which point Sauron's spirit fled.
So no, Sauron did not reach with his Ring hand and get his fingers chopped off like a bloody moron. He more or less got looted.
Thank you, nerd
@tonypine3434 S'alright 😂
I haven’t read the books in awhile (too long!) but I seem to recall it being a 5 on 1 fight with Gil-Galad, Elendil, Isildur, Elrond, and someone else fighting Sauron.
@@gunnerbriscoe3315 The general consensus is that there was a 2 on 1 afaik, Elrond was there but didn't say he and the others fought Sauron
@@Telcontar86 He's just being modest.
I like to picture Boromir has the most want for the ring as he sees it as the object with the power to fix all of their problems, and the ring knows that and just keeps goin "yeah mate. I can. Just take me it's all good!"
The level of craft and detail that went into these films are just INSANE! Like we won't ever see anything like this anymore!
You know the boys liked the movie when the entire episode is just nonstop fanboy talk without taking a single pause to breathe lol. Hyped for next week
1:49 I am 100% here for a hobbitsphere. And bros wanna buy some land and dig some hobbit holes?
Hell yeah dude, about to move to Ballarat to do just that😎
In
Hell yeah let’s all meet up in Perth
I'm down
Sure mate I've got maybe like a thousand bucks to chip in lol. Need what, up to a thousand of us at that rate? Hobbit commune on tho
Little known fact: Peter Jackson actually considered including the two blue wizards, Alator and Pallando, in the extended cut of Fellowship. But it would have been too inconsistent with the established lore.
Jackson, who of course wanted to stay true to the books, was quoted saying: "It's an interesting idea to include the blue wizards, but let's harvest it for another time.". Which actually led the working title of this movie to be "Blue Harvest", which coincidentally was the working title for Star Wars: Episode IV - First Star Wars.
You actually had me going with this one until the mention. Genuinely the best one I've seen for a while
@@TaLuVs my thanks!🧙♂
Nah man, as soon as he said "Blue Wizards," even though I'm a LotR nerd I knew where this was going 😄
@kirbyone oh yeah dude, for literally ANY other topic I'd have picked it. But I've watched and read enough LOTR lore on the Blue Wizards that my brain didn't catch it until too late
😂
Fun Fact: I tear up at multiple points in this movie, and absolutely ball like a baby during the whole Frodo drowning scene. I am a 45 year old man, a cancer survivor, a father of two, i've seen some shit. Yet this movie about little dudes on a bro expedition hits harder than everything.
“I made a promise, Mr. Frodo…a promise! Don’t you leave him, Samwise Gamgee. And I don’t mean to. I don’t mean to.” 😭😭 the truest bro there ever was
"little dudes on a bro adventure" ah dammit i have something in my eye
The line that always gets me is "I would have followed you my brother... my captain... my king."
One of my favorite bits is when they are doing an “impression” of someone, but the voice is just like a grubby voice and then they have the person say their own name at the end so we all know who’s talking. Gets me every time. And that’s genuine btw, it really cracks me up 😂
@@FiggityJones I like the "here's the thing" gag the editors pull. That makes me genuinely laugh. Every. Single. Time.
@ I also love that bit and all the creative ways they accomplish it 😂
No joke, when Fellowship came out on dvd, I watched it every night for at least a month straight. I was obsessed with these movies. I saw each of them in theaters a minimum of 3 times. Fellowship being the most at I think 6 times? Less for the others because of job hours between friends being difficult to work out viewings together). I'm still upset I missed the reshowing they did in theaters this year. I managed to catch RotK by the time I'd heard it was a thing. :( Would have killed to see Fellowship on the big screen again though.
Every year my Dad and I watch all the Harry Potter movies and we watch all of the Lord of the Rings movies and the all the bonus features. I’ve been watching the behind the scenes features since the extended version were first released and it still blows me away how unparalleled these films are when it comes to movie making. The incredible prep work, the innovative post production and the timelessness that these films have. It still shocks me that these movies came out in the early 2000s and still hold up incredibly well today
James is really onto something with the whole 'this is what dudes need' point. Yeah. Grab yourselves some bros and go on a quest. There's a great Cinema Therapy video about Aragorn that's basically an essay on how he's the best bloke.
Also, I once recorded an EP on the farm of the head fletcher for these movies. He had a shed full of those thick arrows and a load of Legolas' bows. I only found out after the third or fourth recording session and had no idea why anyone wouldn't lead with that fact immediately.
I'd buy Aragorn a pint, but he'd probably turn it down and buy me one.
Such a good bloke.
The cheer I let out when I heard Thoughts & Prizes was back was the biggest reaction I’ve had to something since the Flash entered the speed force in Zack Snyder’s Justice League League. Truly a certified crowd cheer moment, even though I’m watching this alone in the dark.
I shed a masculine tear at all the behind the scenes stuff in this episode. I've only seen this movies once but man, now I gotta go again. Great work.
Without knowing this would drop today, I’ve started watching the Rings of Power series yesterday. These movies are very precious to me so I always dreaded watching the series. But I gave it chance and halfway through the second episode I stopped because it was genuinely ttrash and put Fellowship on because I needed to see again what Middle Earth really feels like.
Then boom I see this dropped today.
Life is good.
23:43 I was praying for guy who shouts Rodney
Fun fact: the editing in these videos by Ben and Laurence is quite amazing.
Loved the end bit with both of them ^^
What music is that forgot what film score is it from?
@@1stamericanpsycho it's a classical piece called "3 Gymnopédies". It was in the movie "My Dinner with Andre" and a whole bunch of parodies.
@theomnitorium7476 thanks!
10:33 Dropping that Trump Sauron meme as James says "at the end of this age going into a new bad one" had me in stitches 😂😂💀💀
I for one love the books and think these movies are like the gold standard for adaptation of book to film. Love them both.
So glad you guys are covering this series!
James/Gandalf & Maso/Saruman is 100% S-TIER CONTENT 👏👏👏👏👏
well, they are pretty old and Mason is pretty power hungry and evil.
“Bro, I’d catch so many arrows for you, big ones too”
‘Bro 🥹’
FUN FACT! James has a Palantir at home. That what he uses so that he can see both sides. But you only see it in the extended extended cut.
It's probably also what made masos mind so twisted
fun fact: when they were cleaning up after all of the production work had done (ie hobbiton), they felt quite depressed when they were clearing away all the plants they had planted. as a result, this led to the working title of the trivia being known as blue harvest, which was the original working title of 1977's star wars
Dude, your Blue Harvest joke is so underrated, it should be top comment...😂
Came late to this party. But finished watching more than 300 Caravan of Garbage episodes in a week (I avoided the ones on games). Feels like I've reached Mt. Everest to see this one 7 hours into uploading.
The fellowship of the Ring is my favourite, the actors are all excellent, they did a really good job of setting up the world and the stakes, music was epic the cinematography was epic and I just think it was the strongest most focused entry of the three. Maybe it’s because after the fellowship goes their own way in two towers their stories diverge until return of the king
The problem is that it doesn't have a proper ending. "To be continued" is not satisfying.
@@ThreadBomb I mean I don’t wanna rag on people who didn’t know this was part of a trilogy of films, but it’s like infinity War people went and saw it didn’t know there was a sequel planned and everyone thought that the end was unsatisfying. With this I think it leaves very clear steaks as to the situation going into the next film, the fellowship has broken up, Boromir and Gandalf are seemingly dead, Fred and Sam are travelling together to Mordor, the rest of the fellowship is going to save the other hobbits from the orcs. But again I say all this with the benefit of 20+ years hindsight
"You never feel bored" tell that to my 2 daughters I made watch the extended edition 😂
This applies to Fellowship. You definitely feel it for the other two.
never make a newcomer watch the extended editions first. You always start with the theatrical cut and once they are hooked you show them the extended versions. Although the theatrical cut of Return of the King is the better version anyways
The greatest movies ever made and the greatest DVD extras ever made. Watched both the movies and extras every summer holidays
I cannot tell you how long I’ve been waiting for this series to happen. At least an hour.
Just kidding I’ve been waiting for years. Worth it.
As a massive fan of these films, I was genuinely nervous for this CoG in case you felt kind of lukewarm going back to these films. An absolute joy to hear you discuss it so passionately. So glad to see Maso didn't say something controversial like that time he said all Jurassic Park films are of equal quality.
Spoiler alert, there’s going to nothing but praise from here on out also
@@mrsundaymovies You boys are the best!
23:48 I half expected to see the Rodney supercut
I didn't realize how much I missed that segment until it went away...
5:19 The credible reason some readers don't think that these (great) films are good adaptations is that the films Hollywood-ified a lot of aspects of the original books (Aragorn's character for one).
Don't get me wrong, I love these films! But if you go ahead and *actually read* Fellowship of The Ring, it's a very different kind of adventure. The Hobbits on the first leg of the journey have a whole mini-adventure with a bunch of close calls where they prove themselves to be quite capable - all before they even meet Aragorn. It's a lot slower and more deliberate and more connected with the landscape and grounded in the trekking/survival aspects of the journey. It's hard to explain, you just have to read the books.
These movies are GREAT!! But they don't *really* capture the essence of Tolkien. They are their own incredible thing with their own vibe.
Clearly what they did capture was the love of the filmmakers for the world of LoTR. The Art Direction / Production Design is absolutely incredible. There was clearly a lot of passion there. But it's hard to adapt literature to a big budget Hollywood blockbuster format without making a ton of "sacrifices" aka new creative decisions that radically depart from the source material.
And that's kind of the thing... you have to. Because as I said, this is a Hollywood blockbuster. You can't have that and then do a faithful adaptation where it's 30-60 minutes per chapter. It needs to all fit together in roughly 2 hours, or you won't get the budget.
In order to get a "good" adaptation, you'd need a tremendous amount of faith from a studio OR raise literally millions of dollars directly from fans.
Yes, I've worked on treatments for a 1 episode per chapter adaptation myself. It's not impossible to write or shoot. But it quickly becomes apparent that it would be cost prohibitive to film with Production Design even approaching the level of these legendary films.
When I was six my parents sat me down and said "hey we want to take you to this movie that will be way more violent and scarier than anything you've seen but it will also be one of the best movies ever created and become a formative part of your childhood and shape who you are as a person... whatyareckon?"
Fun Fact: Viggo Mortensen Broke his foot when he kicked that one helmet or something.
Vigil morganstine isn't it?
That was in the Two Towers
Which lead to the working title of this movie being "Let's Kill Vigo Mortensen 2: Blue Harvest"
And Christopher Lee knows the correct noise someone makes when being stabbed which is someone gasping "Rodney"
Blue Harvest
9:21 I think you shouldn't downplay the contribution of Alan Lee and John Howe. They were brought in because they were *THE* Tolkien/Lord of the Rings artists. They were responsible for how most readers saw the world of LOTR, so it was only natural that they should shape the movie version (which Jackson didn't have to do but, to his credit, he did).
I don't feel they downplayed it. They called it out, but had to move on for time. Same with Howard Shore. Even with all that, the video is still very long for a CoG.
There's an extended edition on their Weekly Planet channel
Didn’t realize I was watching an ad to get me to watch the trilogy again. You guys should have warned me
Good thing I was already planning on watching it again with my family over the holidays.
Me losing it at James and Mason as Gandalf and Saruman
they should do an end of the year tier list ranking and reacting to their self-inserts
Love that it's been 20 years and I'll immediately jump on any video heaping praise and revealing trivia on these films I've seen countless times. One piece of stability in a fucked world.
The joy in your voices in this video made me happy..... Great work today guys 🎉🎉🎉🎉
A fellowship is exactly the masculinity we all need.
Best movie ever, will never be repeated. Everything in this movie was on the scale of grandeur, and executed almost flawlessly. It is timeless, it will hold up in a 100 years. The attention to detail in 12 hours of footage, while telling an epic story that never loses your attention. This was absolute peak cinema.
I just want to say thank you to Ben for using THAT SCENE from Bad Taste. It's probably my favorite scene in the movie.
This is absolutely perfect I only truly fell in love with LotR this year watched all the extendeds for my 23rd birthday, listened to all the books while at work, and platinumed both Shadow of Mordor and War, and I found this channel and binged all of CoG these past couple months. I am quite pleased with this.
At the end of all my presentations at work now, I add a "Thoughts and Prizes" slide to get feedback from my coworkers rather than a "questions" slide.
Ive explained it as, They give me their thoughts and maybe someone will win a prize.
As of yet, no one has won a prize, and one female coworker of mine is getting especially furious that she hasn't won a prize and it's my favorite part of the job. This will probably get me fired 😂😂
Oh my God. How I wanted this to happen. Since this series exist this is the only one thing I wanted from this! Thoughts and prizes is back!
One does not simply win a prize in Thoughts & Prizes.
I am once again on my knees!! Begging for the fifth element caravan of garbage !
I concur. Definitely one of my top five favorite movies.
Cmon guys, put him outta his misery! Do it
26:10 “I know it can fly regardless because it has wings”
NO JAMES! THE SCHOLARSHIP IS DIVIDED ON WHETHER THE WINGS ARE VESTIGIAL!
YOU’VE ACCIDENTALLY SAID SOMETHING CONTROVERSIAL!!
22:36 you can see one of the uruk-hai raise his head right after Aragorn runs past/over him lol
They’re wounded genius, not dead
@@noahsaboliauskas7753 chill tf out nerd
Man. You can tell James fucking loved EVERYTHING about these movies. He sounds so damn passionate talking about it
Fun Fact: The Balrog does not have wings.
They were primary foot soldiers in Morgoth's army. Emphasis on foot.
The quote from the book *"The shadow about it reached out like two vast wings"*
That's what Jackson depicted, shadows spreading out from a creature so evil that its mere presence suffocates the light. Like an aura of darkness.
23:00 Bring back RODNEY, the people want him back
Did you know Viggo Mortensen actually broke his foot when he kicked that helmet?!
That’s a misconception Viggo Mortensen actually doesn’t have feet
He actually didn't break toe until the DVD Commentary
We're not allowed to talk about this until the next video. You're going to have to delete this comment.
I'm so glad you guys are finally covering this trilogy. This is my favorite set of films I've seen and i think the best films in the world and sometimes it's nice hearing people praise stuff that i also like. Also i agree this one is the best of the three but not by any significant margin. I just think it hits all the fantasy beats while the others are more focused on the large scale battles
sparing a thought and a prize for Ben and Laurence to aid them in their journey ahead (only one of each, they can decide who gets which) 🙏🤔🎁
Fun fact: In the books there is about 20 years between Bilbo leaving the shire and Frodo setting off on his quest.
I love the idea of a Fellowsphere that opposes the Manosphere
Fellowship is the best of the trilogy, no contest. Viggo Mortensen has expressed it's his favorite because of the gritty realism. You see ruins of civilizations ground to rubble and dust, leaving you wondering what the world looked like before the onset of decay and ruin.
What an artfully crafted world, and what a perfect adaptation.
I would be so happy if you included a truncated version of The Hobbit, specifically M4’s The Hobbit Edit: “A fan edit that combines Peter Jackson's The Hobbit trilogy into a more captivating faithfully adapted single-movie experience.”
The edit takes over 9 hours of dread and turns it into a pretty solid time at the cinema.
James gushing over this film is what I am here for. I’ve never been more excited for CofG. Thoughts and Prays for Ben and Lawrence. Thank you gentlmen, we salute you. 🫡
Fellowship is my favorite of the series.
Also I swore they've already done this one.
Damn Mandela effect.
The Hobbit CoG episodes reference the LotR films a bit too, probably just vaguely remembering that
@Mr.NiceUK that's definitely a possibility.
You know who could have taken the ring to Mordor, no problem? That guy who yells Rodney! #JusticeForThatGuyWhoYellsRodney
He was gone too soon 😪
18:13 Ian McKellen? The guy from the shadow?
LOTR is pretty much my favourite book, or at least one of my all time favs. The movies don't cover everything, and some of it saddens me. However, I totally get why things were changed or excluded. Mostly.
Honestly some of the best movies of all time. I think most Tolkien nerds are aligned on this
Ah cool! Thoughts & Prizes is back, I'll pause the video here and wait by my front door as my T&P delivery from last season should be arriving. Cheers Lads 🎉
One of my all time favourite movies - genuinely pumped to hear you cover this and it did not disappoint.
Would adore a commentary for supporters 😅
1:45 "a diverse group of mates" literally made me lol. and then i said, yeah, i guess some of them are short and some of them are tall
They're diverse because it's a bunch of people from different backgrounds/countries/walks of life coming together.
They may all be white, but they're still from four different races; Dwarfs, Elves, Hobbits, and Men. In that respect, it's very much a diverse group.
Submission for Thoughts an Prizes:
Thought: "And you have my bow" is the only time Legolas ever speaks to Frodo in the entire trilogy. Meanwhile Frodo never utters a word to Legolas. Not sure why they hate eachother.
Prize: Do the extended editions you cowards.
I've been waiting for this day for a long time. It's beautiful.
Please, for when you do The Two Towers, we need the guy who shouts Rodney just for the swamp scene, please 🙏
omg you guys should totally cover frighteners that movies awesome and i bet so many people would be reminded of its existence
"For Brodo!" "My Bro, My Captain, My King"
Still awaiting the return of Rodney
I loved you guys before, but now that you’ve said the fellowship is your favourite of the three movies!!??? It’s forever ❤ It’s the best
It's honestly depressing beyond words, how we will never, ever get movies on this kind of scale, this kind of passion, this kind of creative freedom, this kind of exceptionally honed quality.... ever again.
Weirdly, this was basically the end of art in cinema. And I'm not saying this as some weird fanboy. We just don't see movies like this getting made anymore. Nobody is going to put this kind of work into a big budget movie today.
Bear in mind, there was nothing like this _before,_ either.
I mean, was there something like this before either?
Not as depressing as how civilization as we know it is going to come to an end this century
I mean the Dune movies are in the midst of coming out right now…..
I love the showdown between Gandalf and the Balrog. The Balrog is also a Maiar. It's basically an even match, but Gandalf absolutely squares up. A "servant of the Secret Fire" and "Wielder of the Flame of Anor" is basically him saying "I am a divine agent of good, and I will smite you with the light of the sun." Absolute badass.