The truly most stoic moments in history would actually be unknown 🤔 people who were so efficient at enduring hardship and pain that no one ever knew they were suffering.
That's only true if you live a life alone from others. Nothing that happens in a society is known only to one person. No matter how hard you try and contain it others can know through means outside your control.
Michael W I suppose that’s true. But yes, there are certainly some stoic salt dogs who lived alone that endured extreme hardship with ease that we don’t know about.
I had a skydiving accident 25 years ago. I broke my sacrum in 5 pieces, both legs, herniated two spine discs and had two embolisms at the hospital that almost killed me. Recovery took 2 years and over time 24 general anesthesia surgeries. Physical therapy was pain beyond what words can describe. I knew pain before, I didn’t know this new pain even existed. It’s 25 years later and I ride advanced dressage, training my own horses from start to the highest levels. The only thing that gives meaning to life is the fight.
I didn't pass stoic test... Those stories and the way how you showed them Ryan moved me so much I was crying almost whole video. Can you belive it to stab yourself in thigh to prove to your spouse you are trustworthy? To destroy stitches on your wounds to correct sueside? To transcend your ego, forgive the enemy and say "I am part of a bigger game"? I think I have never been moved that much by examples of will power. Thank you so much for this Ryan.
It's incredible to see how these Stoic principles have stood the test of time. From Marcus Aurelius to Jackie Robinson, their courage and strength are proof that philosophy is not just for thought, but for life. Which story here resonated with you the most?
0:50 John Lewis 3:05 Aron Ralston 5:00 Michael Jordan 7:05 James Stockdale 9:11 Cato the younger 11:07 Purcia Cato 12:38 Agrippinus 14:14 Jackie Robinson 15:55 Theodore Roosevelt 17:30 Marcus Aurelius
I have just recently started digging in to the Stoic philosophy, but I suspect it has always been a part of me. I thought it was just to suck it up and go on anyway. I have found it is so much more and will continue my education. I was diagnosed with terminal cancer 3 and a half years ago and have gone through 53 or so chemo cycles. I will be on chemo for the rest of the life I have. I accepted from the beginning that this is my path, but to not let it be who I am. I have broken six bones riding my mountain bike since I started chemo 3 years ago and I will continue to ride. There will come a day when I can no longer ride my bike, today is not that day. I am still in awe of the simple moments of joy and beauty the world gives and I make a conscious effort to focus on and be aware of those moments. I enjoy going over to the cancer center not because of what has to be done, but because I truly like all of the nurses and support staff and it is a chance to spend time with my friends. Life is what you make it.
Amazing brother thank you for sharing this! There are times when we feel quite stressed, but we have learned a little how to control stress thanks to the stoic philosophy, in our last video we talked about that and we also shared how we have applied easy tips to reduce stress, we want to invite you to give it a look since it seems that those tips would serve you
Stoicism bring me freedom.. Every burden just lifted off my shoulder...Im glad to discover about it...i will take whatever coming with a pinch of salt from now on..
#11: Ayrton Senna, 1991 Brazilian Grand Prix: Drove the last 6 laps of the race with the car stuck in 6th gear out of determination not to give up the victory in his home race after so many years of trying. Won the race, the engine gave out 100 metres past the finish line and he then passed out, having to be lifted from the car.
Two videos about this amazing story that gives all Brazilian and F1 fans goosebumps! ua-cam.com/video/Nl15MIUi6aw/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/WBAJQkDTGzM/v-deo.html Holding a car with rain, at 300km/h, no gearbox and some Gs to hold in his arms.
I agree with Thomas Monahan, we could never know all the stoic moments that thousands of people could have experimented. Seing this video it came to my mind Viktor Frankl, he was a real stoic person during the time he had to endure in the concentration camp with the nazis. His book and thoughts are really helpful for us to meditate about life hardships. Many of us have been in heaven most part of our lives.
I just realized that I was always making the wrong takeaway from the killing of Julius Caesar. I'm fifty, and up until a few minutes ago, always thought Caesar's betrayal a heinous thing. The courage and sacrifice of Brutus decision to remove a devious, sociopathic autocrat only just now became apparent to me. Wow.
haha, its hard to see mate. I only knew of this perspective when i read of it in certain book, mind you! my knowledge of ides of march was nearly twenty years ago!
Because assassination is murder, it's always been debated. In Medieval and early modern England children were educated reading the history and debating the ethics of Brutus's action. William Shakespeare got just such an education in rhetoric and debate and we see him grappling with it in his rendition Julius Caesar. It's to Holiday's advantage to offer this heroic interpretation of Brutus. In another context he could easily demonize him based on the ultimate result of the murder, which was civil war. Perhaps Caesar was mad but in killing him the Republic was far from saved.
brutus was a honourable man, he'd rather follow the man who killed his father rather than helping his mother's lover who was arguably the most powerful man in the world for the sake of the republic. sadly he's proven to be just another naive fool after caesar's assasination. same with cato, the whole roman civil war could have been prevented if not for his hatred for caesar. refusing to agree even with a deal that benefit the republic the most just because caesar was slightly loosen up.
@mark mead So, betrayal is a heinous thing irrespective of who or what is being betrayed? It also seems to me that dying 'needlessly' is a matter of perspective.
Absolute marvel of a vid! Wow @ryanholiday. To all (black) people watching this. Never forget: We stand on the shoulders of our brave ancestors,! We have to continue their work in our day and age, finding and building our own milestone! ✌🏽 Love and Light from Europe 🌟
I can’t help but realize all these men have a purpose. They have a strong ‘why’ for them to endure sheer pain and succeed thru their commitment and resilience.
Courage has many facets, without a doubt this teaches us to be brave and in many situations in life we have to be brave, bravery does not necessarily mean fighting or getting upset, being brave is also maintaining our values and being ourselves without letting our inner selves become turbid. In our last video we talked about that and we also shared how we have applied easy tips to reduce stress, we want to invite you to take a look since it seems that those tips would serve you.
Between Marcus Aurelius's Medations and David Goggins books "Can't Hurt Me" and "Never Finished" my life has changed. Marcus reminds me of hoe short life is and David reminds me how much harder I must work to make it have meaning to what I want it to mean.
Thank you for this masterpiece! Enjoyed every story and every word. Captured my amazement by the energy and tone you showcased throughout the whole video!! Something great to wake up to every morning.
This is my favourite channel on UA-cam. I gain so much from it. Ive been practicing stoicism all of my life without knowing it. Grew up as a young boxer and a rough street kid, to becoming a royal marines commando and boxing champion as an adult. Im now an engineer and a father of daughters but still as stoic as I was as a child. Only now I can justify my ability of appearing to be a cold, steely man, and label it stoicism. And, since learning about this school of thought I intend only to gain more knowledge about it and become a master, though having a solid foundation will congruently carry me toward it. I thought I'd share that with you all. Stay frosty, L.
I hate to say it but while that flu game was impressive, try Bird. He had a shattered eye socket during the start of a game and after his team was behind in points, he came back on the court. If you can imagine shooting a basketball cross eyed, that is what he experienced for the entire night as he dropped 30-something points from memory.
@@adamsandler6131 Bird played with a broken back for half his career and a broken finger for his entire career. You could really clearly see it on his retirement night.
Daily Stoic, you guys are awesome! Thank you for all your great work. I got into stoicism around 8 months ago, and it has changed my life. I read your books, and use your journal and just love them. O and this video is fantastic!! Keep up the amazing work!!
Really loved you included my favorite president the Bull Moose himself theodore Roosevelt who wrote the speech a citizen in a republic which include his famous part the Man in the Arena.☺
That story about Agrippinus and "having lunch on the road" reminded me of Craig Breedlove after getting out of his land speed record car when he had just done the world's fastest u-turn and car crash. He asked if anyone else was ready to go for lunch. A cool customer.
This is my first day on this stoicism stuff but my fourth video and I cant get enough of these amazing wisdom pieces and insights damn...feels good to be back!
Love the video. Everyone will have additions and I'm no different... I like Job's story and Sisyphus' story. Great work here. Thanks for building this.
OK, you got me -- hook, line and sinker. I subscribed to your email and I'm buying your audio book on courage. Stoicism is speaking to my soul right now.
I don't know much about Cato; but could someone please explain how his suicide (or any suicide) is stoic? So like- the Roman Republic fell, became a dictatorship, and then Cato out of Pure "the obstacle is the way" Stoicism decides to commit suicide?? He was so upset at what happened he'd rather kill himself than to endure the suffering life or try to change things? I know for Socrates he was convicted of crimes (unjustly so perhaps) but out of a dedicated to law or to his own principle, he chooses hemlock poison instead of escape or exile; which is- debatable, but I see more stoicism in Socrates than Cato; anyone got any perspectives on this??
agreed. dont think suicide would be a parallel to epictetus. i think he would say stay true to your nature and philosophy, and if they come to punish you for it, endure it. but to kill one's self? it doesnt seem right to me
@@arturzathas499 exactly, stick to your principles, and if in life you are suffering any kind of pain, or are being punished (justly or unjustly) endure it. Get through it, let it become the way to your own reforms. Socrates was on trial for a frivolous charge of "corrupting the youth" with his philosophy, so a vote was held, he narrowly loses and is to be punished. He is allowed to suggest his own punishment and instead of requesting exile, he suggests he should pay a fine; they reject that idea, and condemn him to death to drink hemlock poision. At this point his disciples could easily have busted him out and he could escape; instead Socrates chooses to accept the Hemlock; from my understanding for 2 reasons. 1. To take a dig at Democracy (which he was no fan of) to prove "Hey look; these idiots voted my death, look how great this Democracy is" 2. Uphold the idea of living within the laws of the land. Yes the charge was unjust, cruel, absurd, but he chooses very stoically accept the punishment the laws of his society has placed against him. A jury of his peers voted for his death, he accepts that, much to the dismay of his followers. 3rd (extra reason): He was old. He was 70 at the time, that was OLD back then, he was ready to die. He had zero fear of death, he was living the stoic principle "memento mori" 24/7. Carrying out his own lawful execution, drinking the hemlock being so at peace with the idea of dying there that day, that's pretty impressive. The story goes, he wanted to die as peacefully as possible so he sent out all the women present because he didn't want emotional outbursts, then when all of his male disciples where crying and mourning (becoming emotional) he softly scolds them "hey guys, death is just part of life, be peaceable fellas.. Also, I'm carrying out society's punishment against me, yeah this sucks, but hey- learn something from this. Maybe that guy Plato can take notes of all this, and maybe my death at the hands of trumped up charges will propel you guys to maybe make some changes within society. He simultaneously uses his execution to teach both the importance of upholding the laws of society while also inspiring the idea that their society was ridiculous; his execution could be (hopefully) used as an inspiration towards reform.
@@VirtueInsightWebPage "He simultaneously uses his execution to teach both the importance of upholding the laws of society while also inspiring the idea that their society was ridiculous; " - i wouldnt say ridiculous, though. still in its infancy i would say. for if you thought that the society, despite the laws you give your life to uphold, is ridiculous, then these laws or the idea of laws altogether - which one would think of as one of the pillars of a "virtous society" - have not worked out so well now, have they?! they haveny stoped society from becoming ridiculous, or at least done their best to stray them off the road to such madness. i believe socrates recognized he was facing blind men and was talking to deaf ears. it is one of those moments 'the time will come when i will say "i told you so"'
Cato was in a war in opposition to Caesar. Cato recognized his side, fighting against tyranny, had lost. Cato made sure that anyone he could get to safety before Caesar arrived with his army he did so. He refused to run away but also due to his character could not submit to Caesar. So he decided to die rather than be subject to a tyrant. I cant help but admire him, and a great source is Plutarch's Life of Cato the Younger available free on line.
@@johnz8843 i don't know. to me cato choosing suicide would almost be like that vietnam vet in the pow camp, stockdale i think, instead of cutting his head and bashing himself to disfigurement would just cut his throat. you have this video full of people standing face to face with their adversaries, some times suffering directly at their hands, then here is one of the heros of stoicism ripping his belly open before his adversary can get him. I know many stoics through the ages see cato as a "good suicide" but i just don't see it.
I have been somewhat bowled over by Stoicism of late, so much so that I have ordered a copy of Marcus's book, "Meditations". I can't wait to read it :) EDIT: Subscribed too ;)
What stood out for me is Marcus Aurelius’s saying about being a citizen of the world and the responsibilities that go with that. Today, as we see ignorance, selfishness, and plain stupidity coming from those who have politicized our current pandemic, I am reminded to be a good man(citizen of the world) and do my part for the greater good.
The truly most stoic moments in history would actually be unknown 🤔 people who were so efficient at enduring hardship and pain that no one ever knew they were suffering.
That's only true if you live a life alone from others. Nothing that happens in a society is known only to one person. No matter how hard you try and contain it others can know through means outside your control.
Serpentine Fire physical ailments they suppressed/ disguised and eventually succumb to, way before autopsies were so precise.
Michael W I suppose that’s true. But yes, there are certainly some stoic salt dogs who lived alone that endured extreme hardship with ease that we don’t know about.
Serpentine Fire being stoic doesn’t mean you don’t feel pain, it means you have a great ability to deal with pain.
Chadwick Boseman comes to mind... Rest in peace.
I had a skydiving accident 25 years ago. I broke my sacrum in 5 pieces, both legs, herniated two spine discs and had two embolisms at the hospital that almost killed me. Recovery took 2 years and over time 24 general anesthesia surgeries. Physical therapy was pain beyond what words can describe. I knew pain before, I didn’t know this new pain even existed. It’s 25 years later and I ride advanced dressage, training my own horses from start to the highest levels. The only thing that gives meaning to life is the fight.
Respect
Amazing
🔥🔥
Wow
@Frank Gruden Good for you Frank!
" Most Men can endure adversity , but to truly test a Man , give him power" -A Lincoln
Guess Lincoln failed that test.
@@baw5xc333 so true🤣
“If you want to test a man’s character, give him power” - Abraham Lincoln
He failed that test when he suspended the constitution and set about the wholesale slaughter of his countrymen.
Fabulous quote...best I've seen in some time 🔥
I didn't pass stoic test... Those stories and the way how you showed them Ryan moved me so much I was crying almost whole video. Can you belive it to stab yourself in thigh to prove to your spouse you are trustworthy? To destroy stitches on your wounds to correct sueside? To transcend your ego, forgive the enemy and say "I am part of a bigger game"? I think I have never been moved that much by examples of will power. Thank you so much for this Ryan.
It's incredible to see how these Stoic principles have stood the test of time. From Marcus Aurelius to Jackie Robinson, their courage and strength are proof that philosophy is not just for thought, but for life. Which story here resonated with you the most?
0:50 John Lewis
3:05 Aron Ralston
5:00 Michael Jordan
7:05 James Stockdale
9:11 Cato the younger
11:07 Purcia Cato
12:38 Agrippinus
14:14 Jackie Robinson
15:55 Theodore Roosevelt
17:30 Marcus Aurelius
Thank youuu!!
David Goggins should be on this list. He’s the #1 modern stoic, perhaps as good or better than anyone on that list.
@@marcusmccurley7686 He embodies it for sure but he hasn’t brought about widespread change like these figures and leaders have
there are ppl who just read out quotes. And then there are ppl like Ryan who puts power, and meaning into every word
Makes me think to "Don’t explain your philosophy. Embody it." -Epictetus
I have just recently started digging in to the Stoic philosophy, but I suspect it has always been a part of me. I thought it was just to suck it up and go on anyway. I have found it is so much more and will continue my education. I was diagnosed with terminal cancer 3 and a half years ago and have gone through 53 or so chemo cycles. I will be on chemo for the rest of the life I have. I accepted from the beginning that this is my path, but to not let it be who I am. I have broken six bones riding my mountain bike since I started chemo 3 years ago and I will continue to ride. There will come a day when I can no longer ride my bike, today is not that day. I am still in awe of the simple moments of joy and beauty the world gives and I make a conscious effort to focus on and be aware of those moments. I enjoy going over to the cancer center not because of what has to be done, but because I truly like all of the nurses and support staff and it is a chance to spend time with my friends. Life is what you make it.
Hi sir, I hope you’re still riding your bike, if not, remember the good times and keep the good people around you 🙌🙏 life is what you make of it !
"A pandemic can kill you, but it only harms you if it ruins your character"
Dude was Hardcore. This is worthy of Respect.
Amazing brother thank you for sharing this! There are times when we feel quite stressed, but we have learned a little how to control stress thanks to the stoic philosophy, in our last video we talked about that and we also shared how we have applied easy tips to reduce stress, we want to invite you to give it a look since it seems that those tips would serve you
True, but don't use that as an excuse not to be responsible...wear a mask and protect others.
@@markmerzweiler909 I supposed that is the point. Protecting others is part of a good character
@@felipebrunetta2106 I totally concur.
Stoicism bring me freedom.. Every burden just lifted off my shoulder...Im glad to discover about it...i will take whatever coming with a pinch of salt from now on..
#11: Ayrton Senna, 1991 Brazilian Grand Prix: Drove the last 6 laps of the race with the car stuck in 6th gear out of determination not to give up the victory in his home race after so many years of trying. Won the race, the engine gave out 100 metres past the finish line and he then passed out, having to be lifted from the car.
Amazing man ...
That's awesome I love stories like that
That was not Stoic.
Two videos about this amazing story that gives all Brazilian and F1 fans goosebumps!
ua-cam.com/video/Nl15MIUi6aw/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/WBAJQkDTGzM/v-deo.html
Holding a car with rain, at 300km/h, no gearbox and some Gs to hold in his arms.
Nelson Mandela is the ultimate example of stoicism ...!!! A true legend !!!
"Whoever tries to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life will preserve it."
Ryan, love and thanks from the mountain, you have shone such a bright light on this life.
I agree with Thomas Monahan, we could never know all the stoic moments that thousands of people could have experimented. Seing this video it came to my mind Viktor Frankl, he was a real stoic person during the time he had to endure in the concentration camp with the nazis. His book and thoughts are really helpful for us to meditate about life hardships. Many of us have been in heaven most part of our lives.
I just realized that I was always making the wrong takeaway from the killing of Julius Caesar. I'm fifty, and up until a few minutes ago, always thought Caesar's betrayal a heinous thing. The courage and sacrifice of Brutus decision to remove a devious, sociopathic autocrat only just now became apparent to me. Wow.
haha, its hard to see mate. I only knew of this perspective when i read of it in certain book, mind you! my knowledge of ides of march was nearly twenty years ago!
Because assassination is murder, it's always been debated. In Medieval and early modern England children were educated reading the history and debating the ethics of Brutus's action. William Shakespeare got just such an education in rhetoric and debate and we see him grappling with it in his rendition Julius Caesar. It's to Holiday's advantage to offer this heroic interpretation of Brutus. In another context he could easily demonize him based on the ultimate result of the murder, which was civil war. Perhaps Caesar was mad but in killing him the Republic was far from saved.
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brutus was a honourable man, he'd rather follow the man who killed his father rather than helping his mother's lover who was arguably the most powerful man in the world for the sake of the republic. sadly he's proven to be just another naive fool after caesar's assasination. same with cato, the whole roman civil war could have been prevented if not for his hatred for caesar. refusing to agree even with a deal that benefit the republic the most just because caesar was slightly loosen up.
@mark mead So, betrayal is a heinous thing irrespective of who or what is being betrayed? It also seems to me that dying 'needlessly' is a matter of perspective.
Stoic mindest is needed in society.
Absolute marvel of a vid! Wow @ryanholiday. To all (black) people watching this. Never forget: We stand on the shoulders of our brave ancestors,! We have to continue their work in our day and age, finding and building our own milestone! ✌🏽 Love and Light from Europe 🌟
I can’t help but realize all these men have a purpose. They have a strong ‘why’ for them to endure sheer pain and succeed thru their commitment and resilience.
"Sometimes we have to go deep inside ourselves to solve our problems" - Patrick Star
15:51 Theodore Roosevelt was a badass! Loved what was written about him in The 50th Law.
This is great list. I love the call to Courage - we often don’t see how commonly it is over looked
Courage has many facets, without a doubt this teaches us to be brave and in many situations in life we have to be brave, bravery does not necessarily mean fighting or getting upset, being brave is also maintaining our values and being ourselves without letting our inner selves become turbid. In our last video we talked about that and we also shared how we have applied easy tips to reduce stress, we want to invite you to take a look since it seems that those tips would serve you.
Between Marcus Aurelius's Medations and David Goggins books "Can't Hurt Me" and "Never Finished" my life has changed. Marcus reminds me of hoe short life is and David reminds me how much harder I must work to make it have meaning to what I want it to mean.
My gratitude to you for making this video
Wow, greatly executed. It was so beautiful it had me in tears of joy. Thank you!
When you finally realize your dead, the peace that overcomes you is surreal. Then when you live you can never forget that moment.
This made me cry, I love it.
Goosebumps
This is the best video I have ever seen. Thank you so so much.
Incredible Art you have created , I thank you very much !
Thank You👍🏻!!!
Thank you for your work. It is inspiring to me and useful. Thank you.
Thanks for this video Ryan, a truly inspirational mindset and attitude we can all incorporate into our everyday lives
Marcus, my mentor...
Awesome! Thank for your work
Thank you for this masterpiece! Enjoyed every story and every word. Captured my amazement by the energy and tone you showcased throughout the whole video!! Something great to wake up to every morning.
Motivating and a challenge to be a better stoic. Thanks Ryan.
Absolutely amazing 👏
My God! What a good video. I literally cried.
This so powerful and EPIC.
Thank you my friend put the years of your Channel and the potency of your courage
This is SUCH a great video. I'm so inspired. Also let me say that the diversity in this video is so appreciated. Thanks
This seems like something my English teacher would show the class...
You've got a great English teacher then.
My English teachers loved to shove Shakespeare down our throats. Consider yourself lucky
Lucky you
Great way to start the day. Love the idea of "doers".
brilliant. a man who publishes this, must be a great man. we need more of us, who envision heroic ideals. godspeed to you.
This is my favourite channel on UA-cam. I gain so much from it.
Ive been practicing stoicism all of my life without knowing it. Grew up as a young boxer and a rough street kid, to becoming a royal marines commando and boxing champion as an adult. Im now an engineer and a father of daughters but still as stoic as I was as a child. Only now I can justify my ability of appearing to be a cold, steely man, and label it stoicism. And, since learning about this school of thought I intend only to gain more knowledge about it and become a master, though having a solid foundation will congruently carry me toward it. I thought I'd share that with you all.
Stay frosty, L.
That was amazing! Stories give us so much strength! Thank you!
A Powerful video. Love the emotion in the voice.
thank you
I hate to say it but while that flu game was impressive, try Bird. He had a shattered eye socket during the start of a game and after his team was behind in points, he came back on the court. If you can imagine shooting a basketball cross eyed, that is what he experienced for the entire night as he dropped 30-something points from memory.
If you shoot a basketball every day it’s just muscle memory as long as you know where you are you don’t need depth perception
@@KK-bt6nc Bloody hard to aim when you see two hoops 😂😂
Kobe Bryant played with a broken finger.
@@adamsandler6131 Bird played with a broken back for half his career and a broken finger for his entire career.
You could really clearly see it on his retirement night.
I'd say that nowadays more than ever is a time for Stoic heroism.
Agreed
Great vid. Thank you I must read more & learn.
Awesome.
Daily Stoic, you guys are awesome! Thank you for all your great work. I got into stoicism around 8 months ago, and it has changed my life. I read your books, and use your journal and just love them. O and this video is fantastic!! Keep up the amazing work!!
Powerful video one of my favourite channels
truely amazing video thank you
Best video till date
Tremendous thank you!
Really loved you included my favorite president the Bull Moose himself theodore Roosevelt who wrote the speech a citizen in a republic which include his famous part the Man in the Arena.☺
That story about Agrippinus and "having lunch on the road" reminded me of Craig Breedlove after getting out of his land speed record car when he had just done the world's fastest u-turn and car crash. He asked if anyone else was ready to go for lunch. A cool customer.
The narration is terrific.
Fantastic job brother!
Brilliant!
This is my first day on this stoicism stuff but my fourth video and I cant get enough of these amazing wisdom pieces and insights damn...feels good to be back!
Thanks.
thank you - Daily stoic - i needed to hear this
Thanks so much 🙏🏿🙏🏿
This is the best UA-cam video I have
seen
Thank you for this video. It is inspirational, indeed. Peace.
Standing Applause. Bravado! We need Stoic Leaders NOW
We don't need leaders, that is why mankind is enslaved. People gave up their freedom to be saved by a leader.
start yourself, dont think on others
This video is beautiful. Thank You
Fantastic, Ryan! Practical philosophy right here, thank you very much for your well-collected insights!
Liked and subscribed. Thank you!!
The variety in these stories is great!!!
fantastic video man, really much much better than I was expecting, thank you
"Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."
great video, well done
Great video
amazing
The bit about Marcus Aurelius got me, great work!
This video is great
LOVE LOVE YOU!
Love you too ♥️
I love this channel.
awsome video
This video packed a punch, wow
Love the video. Everyone will have additions and I'm no different... I like Job's story and Sisyphus' story. Great work here. Thanks for building this.
Wasn't Sisyphos just a liar and a deciever?
Incredible.
Wow. This is beautiful. A gift for times like these.
OK, you got me -- hook, line and sinker. I subscribed to your email and I'm buying your audio book on courage. Stoicism is speaking to my soul right now.
Love From Saginaw MI
I don't know much about Cato; but could someone please explain how his suicide (or any suicide) is stoic?
So like- the Roman Republic fell, became a dictatorship, and then Cato out of Pure "the obstacle is the way" Stoicism decides to commit suicide?? He was so upset at what happened he'd rather kill himself than to endure the suffering life or try to change things?
I know for Socrates he was convicted of crimes (unjustly so perhaps) but out of a dedicated to law or to his own principle, he chooses hemlock poison instead of escape or exile; which is- debatable, but I see more stoicism in Socrates than Cato; anyone got any perspectives on this??
agreed. dont think suicide would be a parallel to epictetus. i think he would say stay true to your nature and philosophy, and if they come to punish you for it, endure it. but to kill one's self? it doesnt seem right to me
@@arturzathas499 exactly, stick to your principles, and if in life you are suffering any kind of pain, or are being punished (justly or unjustly) endure it. Get through it, let it become the way to your own reforms. Socrates was on trial for a frivolous charge of "corrupting the youth" with his philosophy, so a vote was held, he narrowly loses and is to be punished. He is allowed to suggest his own punishment and instead of requesting exile, he suggests he should pay a fine; they reject that idea, and condemn him to death to drink hemlock poision. At this point his disciples could easily have busted him out and he could escape; instead Socrates chooses to accept the Hemlock; from my understanding for 2 reasons.
1. To take a dig at Democracy (which he was no fan of) to prove "Hey look; these idiots voted my death, look how great this Democracy is"
2. Uphold the idea of living within the laws of the land. Yes the charge was unjust, cruel, absurd, but he chooses very stoically accept the punishment the laws of his society has placed against him. A jury of his peers voted for his death, he accepts that, much to the dismay of his followers.
3rd (extra reason): He was old. He was 70 at the time, that was OLD back then, he was ready to die. He had zero fear of death, he was living the stoic principle "memento mori" 24/7. Carrying out his own lawful execution, drinking the hemlock being so at peace with the idea of dying there that day, that's pretty impressive. The story goes, he wanted to die as peacefully as possible so he sent out all the women present because he didn't want emotional outbursts, then when all of his male disciples where crying and mourning (becoming emotional) he softly scolds them "hey guys, death is just part of life, be peaceable fellas.. Also, I'm carrying out society's punishment against me, yeah this sucks, but hey- learn something from this. Maybe that guy Plato can take notes of all this, and maybe my death at the hands of trumped up charges will propel you guys to maybe make some changes within society.
He simultaneously uses his execution to teach both the importance of upholding the laws of society while also inspiring the idea that their society was ridiculous; his execution could be (hopefully) used as an inspiration towards reform.
@@VirtueInsightWebPage "He simultaneously uses his execution to teach both the importance of upholding the laws of society while also inspiring the idea that their society was ridiculous; " - i wouldnt say ridiculous, though. still in its infancy i would say.
for if you thought that the society, despite the laws you give your life to uphold, is ridiculous, then these laws or the idea of laws altogether - which one would think of as one of the pillars of a "virtous society" - have not worked out so well now, have they?! they haveny stoped society from becoming ridiculous, or at least done their best to stray them off the road to such madness. i believe socrates recognized he was facing blind men and was talking to deaf ears.
it is one of those moments 'the time will come when i will say "i told you so"'
Cato was in a war in opposition to Caesar. Cato recognized his side, fighting against tyranny, had lost. Cato made sure that anyone he could get to safety before Caesar arrived with his army he did so. He refused to run away but also due to his character could not submit to Caesar. So he decided to die rather than be subject to a tyrant. I cant help but admire him, and a great source is Plutarch's Life of Cato the Younger available free on line.
@@johnz8843 i don't know. to me cato choosing suicide would almost be like that vietnam vet in the pow camp, stockdale i think, instead of cutting his head and bashing himself to disfigurement would just cut his throat. you have this video full of people standing face to face with their adversaries, some times suffering directly at their hands, then here is one of the heros of stoicism ripping his belly open before his adversary can get him. I know many stoics through the ages see cato as a "good suicide" but i just don't see it.
Awesome
I'm a big follower of stoicism
Yet it is only for those with a very strong mentality.
Beautiful
Thank you Ryan Holiday really appreciate it...
I have been somewhat bowled over by Stoicism of late, so much so that I have ordered a copy of Marcus's book, "Meditations". I can't wait to read it :) EDIT: Subscribed too ;)
Just now learning about stoicism. Some of this was hard to listen to to be honest, but maybe I just need time to reshape my mind.
This philosophy reflects my own beliefs more surely than any other - my actions however are a little more opaque.
What stood out for me is Marcus Aurelius’s saying about being a citizen of the world and the responsibilities that go with that. Today, as we see ignorance, selfishness, and plain stupidity coming from those who have politicized our current pandemic, I am reminded to be a good man(citizen of the world) and do my part for the greater good.
Thank you Ryan! Great video. I love your bookshelf, looks so beautiful
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