Karen Read Jurors Deliberating for 3rd Straight Day as Silence is Deafening
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Welcome to another episode of Surviving The Survivor, the podcast that brings you the #BestGuests in all of True Crime…
The trial for Karen Read, the Massachusetts woman who is accused in the 2022 death of her Boston police officer boyfriend, is underway with Day 2 of testimony.
Read, 43, of Mansfield, is charged with running down John O’Keefe, her Boston police officer boyfriend, and leaving him to die in a blizzard in the town of Canton on Jan. 29, 2022.
She has pleaded not guilty to charges of second-degree murder, motor vehicle manslaughter, and leaving the scene of a collision in connection with O’Keefe’s death.
#BestGuests:
Famed Tallahasse Defense Attorney R. Timothy Jansen is a partner in the firm Jansen & Davis…he has handled complex Civil, Administrative and Criminal Litigation s, first as Chief Trial Counsel for the Secretary of State of Florida, Tallahassee, handling both complex Civil and Criminal matters.
He also spent 5 years as a federal prosecutor.
Martin E. Radner is an attorney licensed in Michigan and New Jersey. His practice is focused on personal injury, civil rights and criminal defense. He has handled and tried cases in both the state and federal court systems. Mr. Radner is well known and respected by the legal community as a fierce advocate and skilled trial attorney. His youtube channel is called brother counsel where he breaks down and analyzes high profile trials which you can subscribe to by clicking here: / @brothercounsel
Alina "Alyte" Mazeika, Esq. is a practicing attorney and a member of the California Bar and DC Bar. She is a graduate of The University of Texas School of Law and received a Bachelor of Arts from the University of California San Diego.
She created Legal Bytes as a space for people to learn about the law in a way that is fun and interesting and to empower them to make better-informed decisions and live better lives. Subscribe and check it out here:
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Finally, great guests who actually watched the trial!!!!
I had to unsubscribe from STS because the last few days he has had uneducated guests talking about things without knowing the facts that have been presented in court. I'm here because I see that Leal Bytes is here.
@@cattoes1609I agree- it was extremely frustrating hearing people give their opinions when they don't know facts of the case. I get some of the guests still practice so they're not able to watch the whole trial- but those guests shouldn't speak on facts when they didn't watch🤷🏼♀️ it seems as if they think, "if you've seen one, you've seen them all" however, if ever there was a case when that doesn't apply, it's this one!
@@MrsLindsC6 so true. This case on its face seems unimaginable, but holy heck, something stinks in Canton.
The BEST of the STS Best Guests. Intelligent, rational, and civil discussion about the facts and evidence. Whether you think KR is guilty or not, the simple truth is that there is too much reasonable doubt to convict. Period.
When a person questions their ability to trust LE and their testimony in court and the methods of collecting evidence, we have a huge problem. Reasonable doubt in this case is strong.
Tim most rational argument. The only Q the jury needs to figure out for themselves is did she actually hit him w/ the car, if not, case over!
Martin is another great attorney. He breaks it down so well even morons like myself can understand. People get on him for waiting until the trial is over to give his verdict. He’s methodical. Great characteristic.
Can we give some love to Yanetti and Little, too!
Also Bederow.
@@brandonman1315 He is not part of the defence team though…🤣
Can you imagine 1 idiot juror can ruin your life.
I'm here to whatch brother counsel love him !!! His delivery is always on spot !!!
@kimbuettner5884. I like his style as well. Very measured
@@vincedidiana5781legal bytes and brother counsel is what brought me through the door again! This was a solid panel of guests.
Those paramedics TESTIFIED in court to Karen Read, saying I hit him but it was never written/included in any of their reports. One paramedic wrote "could I have hit him? Which is vastly different from saying I hit him!
Jenn McCabe even said “did I hit him? In her grand jury trial. Then changed her testimony in this trial!
@@Cindeelouhoothat's true her grand jury testimony never stated that Karen Reed said "I hit him" but did I hit him? could I have hit him? Did I hit him?. It bothered me on Lally's closing arguments, that he stated Karen Reed said I hit him, I hit him, I hit him, I hit him. The entire trial the premise was she said that three times by the closing argument Lally added a fourth
And false memories can occur when groups of people talk about their perspectives nearly daily
Plenty of people in tragic circumstances have thought did I leave the stove on or did I leave the pool gate open or put together - they take on a sense of responsibility out of guilt the horror of the moment.
She didn’t hit him. There was no accident.
All of the paramedics save one, got their info secondhand and then misremembered how they got that info. And that one paramedic got it from Jen McCabe, I think. Karen was asking the same questions over and over.
Agree with Joel: some people need to settle down
Hi watching from New Zealand 🇳🇿 😊 I can not believe people have said things about your mum!! Thats disgusting! Im so sorry there are brainless idiots like that in this day x age!
Where is an OUI charge for everyone else out that night? they all testified to drinking and driving. Higgins moving cars at 1am after drinking whiskey all day long. This is a joke!
This. 💯
Right, but some people are actually believing the lies they told even though they probably drunk too. And who coached them all to keep saying "high top tables"?
lol I really did think Joel was saying “Our Timothy Jansen” 😂
Me too! 😂
John's poor family how do they grieve with this all going on! Very sad no matter what happened 😢 😞
Agreed 💔
they don't seem to be grieving to me
A plea would have allowed the bad behavior not the MSP to remain hidden in the shadows.
Guys we need to remember that the glass fragments "found" on the bumper was NOT consistent with the drinking glass found shattered near OJKs body. So,if we are to speculate that John had thrown the glass and broken the taillight he would have had to have had 2 glasses when he got out of the car. Its not impossible to believe but they never proved how a second glass came from or even where the mismatched fragments came from.
It makes much more sense that someone broke another glass and planted it on the taillight and at the scene and knew that it would appear to be from the same glass. Even Trooper Paul admitted he still believes it's all from one glass dispite lab results proving otherwise. Just another example of the common wealth refusing to give any credibility to any evidence that doesn't support their case.
Great guests tonight and they obviously watched the trial and were able to articulate misconceptions and assumptions with evidence.
Unlike Jeff woods
@@colleen019omg...he is thankfully retired...likely due to incompetence and corruption
Joel just reads the scroll. He’s just focused on new subscribers and making money
Reasonable doubt. Too many questions that went unanswered by the witnesses!
In other states the DA can’t charge someone with murder if the medical examiner rules the cause of death is unknown. Things need to change here in MA!
Good to know. This makes sense.
@sp74 claimed some of the taillight fragments were found before car got to the sallyport. That simply isn’t fact. The taillight fragments were all found after the Lexus got to the sallyport. Thats simply fact.
Movement of phone did not end before 12:30, but Karen on a day where it wasn’t snowing would have had to leave 34 Fairview before 1230 to have reached OJO’s in time to connect to his WiFi.
Math doesn’t change.
Physics doesn’t change.
The earth isn’t flat.
Trooper Paul is not an expert: and doesn’t understand a single thing about science.
Facts are facts.
We don't know if she really said I hit him I hit him I hit him. That could be lies
So 5 people are lying for who ?
Her attorney admitted it days later and stated it was an accident and she didn’t hit him that hard. Not sure if that spells it out or not.
She didn't say it. TheY SAID SHE SAID THAT AT THE GRAND JURY when they got their stories straight.
@stevenprice6957 No, you weren't watching. They said she said that at the grand jury almost 2 years later. It never made it on a single report from ANY of the first responders. That was all made up much later. FFS please watch the trial.
Doesn't matter.
"I hit him" isn't "I backed into him at 24 mph while my phone was at his house. "
No the police report never stated that. She said I hit him. I hit him I hit him. Please look at what the police reports stated. Did I hit him? Could I have hit him and these were on multiple different days@@stevenprice6957
The judge rents a summer home from Brian. Their kids call the judge aunt Bev.
And
Yeah she’s biased. Always remember Karma always shows herself.
It’s called BIASED
She has been renting that home for years.I think she should have stepped down from this case for sure.That entire town has a lot of dishonest, heavy drinking fools.Of they let her go she will continue to drink heavy through her depression.She has a whole city to hide from and may not be safe if she stays there.The single men know her personal and mental and physical health.
Why in the world would she not recuse herself.
Either verdict there is still an absolute cover up and contradictions and lies and a botched criminal investigation involving 3 Pd
Just a thought, we NEVER see detectives personal texts…imagine what we would see in other cases….
Lally lied with his first sentence of closing. That’s why you may have 1 or 2 person who are holding off in jury. The experts on both sides said this is not consistent with car/pedestrian
Yeah, and it’s amazing how Karen was able to hit him even more during the trial. (It went from 3*I hit him too 4*I hit him)
I know a great lawyer when I hear one - Tim Jansen knows what he’s talking about. I respectfully & wholeheartedly disagree with Martin on several of his views here- that judge is completely biased. Outrageous. I’ve experienced many judges. Crooked. Also, Lally wasn’t appointed to this case “bc they needed someone good to stand up to Jackson”…Lally was on this case from the jump, WELL BEFORE AJ came on.
😮 Just one question 😮
WHY ARE YOU SAYING THAT PEOPLE ARE SPLIT IN THIS CASE??
3% THINKS SHE'S QUILTY, THAT'S LIKE SAYING THAT PEOPLE ARE SPLIT ABOUT IF THE EARTH IS FLAT OR NOT!!! CRAZY TALK!😅😮😢😂😊❤
Tim, I just love you. You're always clearly articulating what I want to say about a case. Great guests as usual and as usual, Tim Jansen is the best guest. 💗
KR not guilty (Innocent) - If this disgusting trial can occur on TV and end in a hung jury (more than likely now it seems) - how many innocent people are in Massachusetts jails?
No one better DARE insult Karm 😠. And stop hating on Joel! STS, the good ones love you, the COE and Karm.
Joel keeps saying any coverup would have to be "a mass coverup." Take 90 seconds and think about how coverups work, dude. There's no "mass". It takes a couple of people to create a conspiracy. The rest go along with the crowd out of loyalty or because they want to cover their own backside or to not lose face. There is such a lack of basic reasoning when it comes to this case that it blows my mind.
I saw a comment earlier that said the jury has decided but sitting back to payback to Lally 😆😆🤣
😂
They didn’t put it in any report 🤷🏻♀️ if it really was said they should have told the police and put into their reports
AND Jen also didn’t testify to it at the STATE GRAND JURY. Jen made up things as she went just like Julianna Nagel
Love Tim
Jansen he gets it
@latinalatina1011. Agree. Mr. Jansen is THE best guest.
Agreed! Hes a real lawyer. ❤
The fact has been proved that John O'Keefe was not hit or injured by the SUV
This definitely seen’s to be a reasonable doubt situation relative to the prosecution evidence offered. Then, considering the police conflict of interest or downright misconduct one can’t but conclude that the Commonwealth of Massachusetts hasn’t met its burden of proof. If, no vehicle collision … no crime.
Joel, you continue to smash it everyday. Keep up the great work, brother. Is it true you’ll be in my hometown of Chicago July 16? Also, Mr. Jansen is THE best guest. I wonder if the R is for Retainer.
At the Book Cellar in Chicago July 16th. Hope to meet you!
My bet: 1 or more jurors wants to charge her with the lesser crime of leaving the scene (even though there’s no proof she hit him PERIOD) and that’s what this hold out is about.
That’s what I think and rumor has it the Bev selected foreman was a former LEO and I’d put money on him being the holdout.
@@JessSpoutingdoubt that’s true, the defense would have immediately struck him from the jury
Your comment let me exhale so big. I did not even think of this. They could have already decided not guilty on the murder and figuring out the lesser charges.
@@brandonman1315 There are commentators saying a retired Norfolk police officer is on the jury (of course, this may or may not be true). It would be ****** up if the police officer was selected as the foreperson. IMO, KR not guilty on the evidence and in fact.
The Arrca guys theory is that the drinking glass was thrown at the taillight, presumably at 34 Fairway, so in that case there would be no planting of the taillight at the scene!?
So happy to see Alyte, and previously Runkle, here. It’s because of them that I found STS.
All the traffic of people to this house and noone saw nothing maybe it's because there was nothing to see. And the body was moved there after the last person left after 2am.
💯 I'm just concerned that there is one tainted juror. Or perhaps they are just going through all the evidence because they have not had the luxury of speaking to each other for the past month about the details of the case. The truth must ring resounding and clear not guilty on all counts
@@primalcritters read thar there is a police officer and 2 lawyers on the jury. If this is true then we should get a fair outcome.
Brian Albert and Brian Higgins were given a preservation order of their phones and purposely destroyed their phones and destroyed sim cards. Why would you do that?
Not to mention they all were getting their story straight. "Tell them the guy was never in the house!". Response: "Exactly"
if he was never in the house why do you have to say that to each other?
That is strong reasonable doubt
Reasonable doubt all over the place but that text meant nothing to me. I respond to people with Exactly, absolutely, for sure…
if a person watched the trial, what difference are they than a juror if not watching gossip, so to be real
NO juror will speak up after this trial.
This town is just so small and you could see how aggro they are. No juror will take the risk
Thank you again for another great show. 🎉
Just finished this episode and loved it. Great flow of knowledge from these best guests. I didn’t watch last night but maybe you redeemed yourself lmao 🌹
Great best guests - i appreciate their time, insights, and expertise! Thank you Joel and Team!
Joel, it saddens me that since covering the KR trial, the once-civil STS community has become increasingly toxic. I hope once the verdict is released, the discourse will return to the respect and civility that this community is none to be.
Known- not none - long day… lol
I think it's only this case. Once they really ramp up the Donna Adelson trial coverage, the beautiful STS community (the real STS community) we all know and love will be revealed once more :)
I hope you’re right. I need our regular Phil and Scott Fridays back!!! ❤
There’s nothing toxic about people voicing their own opinion! Not everyone has to agree with you
Paramedics DO have connections to the Alberts.....best friend of Kaitlin Albert
The young sharp attorney was spot on!
QQQ Don't you need some conspiracy to explain the taillight?
What abt the tail light? The cop from Dighton said it was cracked. The video of her leaving at 5amish shows an intact light as well as video of the tow from her parents, side view fully intact. Proctor never took a photo of the light when p/u occurred, people were viewed around the right rear tail light in the sallyport despite their presenting and trying to snooker the jury with the mirrored video.
Great panel discussion tonight- everyone knows the case! Amazing! Free Karen!
They threw John O out like he was trash, so one has to be concerned for Karen’s safety post trial
There’s has been a lot of research into human psychology finding that if we are asked to decide on different opinions (as guilty or not guilty) but there is only one box to check. We are more inclined to check the box that is available. (Heard-mentality) so, it does matter
The verdict slip and the jury instructions are so confusing!! And, then they revived new versions of the documents…
I’m not American. We don’t have the jury system where I live. To me it’s mind boggling and totally bonkers how this is put on 12 regular citizens.. CRAZY!!
Joel you're brilliant and your guest's are very informative.
One cannot please the world, ignore the negative responses.
There was a rumor that as the jurors were walking out yesterday most had their head down but one was smiling.
I wish the FBI had attended the trial to keep an eye on things.
Just bc Prosecutors havent proven without a reasonable doubt, doesn’t mean Karen didn’t kill John !!! Defense can try and put doubts in the jurors minds, but that doesn’t mean the jurors don’t have their own common sense and seeing the truth as they see it, and that’s why, they’re not all agreeing on the Not Guilty !
Only here because I know Alyta watched the trial, last time I watched it was clear your guests had not watched the trial. You ought to really make sure guests actually know the facts.
Great guests with knowledge of the case!
I know no one from the panel will see this but blaming AJ for going full cover up have to remember he didn’t have 3 of the 4 experts when he went that route. So it’s great to say he shouldn’t have, but he didn’t have any of those 3 until February 2024 and later.
Also, without his full cover up story this trial would not be in the media like it is now. We wouldn’t be watching Joel’s episode right now because he wouldn’t have filmed it.
Tim will always be a Best Guest
Excellent guests today Joel!
My favourite panel so far ❤
Hahaha that was ME!
It's a murder case but they have the wrong murderer Brian Collin and Cloughy.
I think as she pulled up she may have thought she hit him because he was laying on the grass and no one else is there. Anyone that is in shock and confused to what she saw may have thought omg I hit him. She is innocent.
🧡Four people who are familiar with this case and argue objectively. What a relief after the last show.🧡
I have no issue with different opinions as long as both sides are arguing based on solid information and facts.
Here because of Alyte who has been following the case!
The Job ARCA was hired for was to figure out how the car was damaged in the way the car in this case allegedly was damaged. And how the victim was injured. They are not saying that a thrown glass is what damaged the car. They are saying that that is one way the car could get damaged. They had very little material to work with, they where not allowed to go outside the scope. Meaning they weren’t allowed to brainstorm freely. The glass John had was still in his hand. He didn’t throw it on the taillight and then go grab it again, and if he did the glass would probably have been in pieces.. several witnesses from both sides testified that Johns injuries does not look like injuries you have after being hit by a car. Several also say that he could not have gotten the injuries to his head by hitting grass (even if there was is and snow) he had to hit his head on asphalt or concrete to receive the head injuries. Witnesses also stated that John would have been unconscious after injuring his head. So, how was he found on grass?!?! If his body was warm when he ended up where he was found. Shouldn’t the snow have melted underneath him?!?!!
In my opinion the defense has proven that John was not hit by a car. But they also proved that he had to have injured his head somewhere where there was asphalt or concrete, not on the grass he was found on, that he would have been unconscious (meaning not able to move himself) so, how did he end up where he was found????
What about her asking lanny Do you object? Letting lanny talk 2 -3 hours and say nothing and when Defense gets up ,she tells them to hurry up ,how much time they have! To me all her side bars were off camera ,to me because she doesn't want the jury to hear and know what see is doing! Her smart remarks to the defense whom she does not like, outsiders (Lawyers) She is the worst judge ,bias blatantly!!!
The Karen Read trial is modern version of My Cousin Vinny.
Omg love it brother !!!
Jury does not know about FBI. We know only.
I think the “two sides” in this case are overrated. All polls show that at least 80% believe Karen Read is not guilty. Even the Court TV survey showed 85% and this audience is usually 90% in favor of the prosecution. Those who shout GUILTY are just very loud.
Loved this panel (and so many others I watched here) I personally believe she is factually innocent as it was scientifically proven by very credible, highly accredited experts. Joel I appreciate you trying to bring out all sides of this story, even the ones opposite of mine. IMO no one should "fear" any type of information when seeking the truth. How else will it come to light? Hands down you deliver on "best guests" 🙌🏼 I would personally appreciate to hear some input from a professional body language expert regarding witnesses' testimonies we've seen throughout the trial, and there's even some Karen Read videos to analyze. Body language has been on my mind since day 1 of this trial as we really got some quality up close footage of the ppl on the stand, the judge, lawyers etc. Maybe you can get one or more (or all) the guys from the behavior panel, or any type of credible expert on the subject. If there's someone who can find one - it's probably you😉 thx again for everything. Staying tuned ✌🏼️
The conspiracy is important for what’s coming! Right is Might!
553 calls in 3 hours when you're sleeping, ok
Do you think the jury would vote guilty because they didn’t like AJ??
Wish ppl could just admit what they did and accept consequences. Yanneti said in early press conference "this was not intentional". But instead of accepting responsibility and talking with the family, it comes to this madness. Meanwhile lawyers rack up obscene charges and get on TV at every opportunity. No shade to your guests but it's a sad world.
Watch the trial!!
You clearly did not fully watch the trial.
This was early before the FBI stepped in with their investigation and felt this was a travesty.
She may have not remembered, she remembered hitting something that night but wasn't sure. Remember the prosecution said she had 9 drinks in two hours???
Thank goodness they realized she hit John's car, clearly her tail light was intact at 5am driving away and now these experts accident reconstructionist and medical examiners saying it is impossible he was hit by a car with only a laceration on the back of his head, so only head trauma. No events detected on her Lexus black box data per FBI.
Just think about getting getting hit by a car at 24mph? The medical examiners and accident specialists said even at 15mph you have torn ligaments, broken bones, bruising swelling, massive injuries all over the body especially where the impact was. There is no way just his head was hit and only scratches on his arm.
When those FOUR showed up for closings and FINAL jury selection - the NEXT day at 9am the JURY asked the Judge to be dismissed by 4pm (yes I know she takes the bus) but WHEN have you ever heard a Jury asked to leave by 4pm at NINE AM in the morning? So they already knew they weren't going to have a verdict? Fishy! I I called it on that day that it will be a HUNG Jury or Guilty by Friday and I also said I hope I am wrong! Interesting this happened after those FOUR showed up to see final Jury for deliberations! Then the Verdict slip issues? I also stopped watching the lives during the day since then because my gut told me no verdict at least until Friday - This is a no brainer - Murdogs case even came back faster another small town that has had enough of the Murdogs crap - ALSO - I may be wrong but if she if found guilty she can't sue the town, cops, state etc correct? What about a hung jury? This also should be taken into consideration into this ish show! BTW I heard bits and pieces before the trial but nothing major - I watched the trial only - I am really wondering why the jury is struggling - Time will tell - I know a little boy 6 years old that was hit by a car and passed away and I know someone in their 40s that got hit by a car and lived - both had broken bones - severe bruising - fractures from neck to toe - no record of that on Officer John - that would have been it for me as a Juror - plus its common sense. Look at DV cases with bruises - you mean to tell me a 7200lb vehicle WONT leave bruises?!?!? Come on! Tomorrow Is Friday I will keep an ear listening throughout the day - but like I said the day after closings we will get nothing until Friday and was not surprised at all every evening when I saw nope they went home.
It's been 2.5 days. They have not talked about it until Tuesday. There is a lot to go through and there is likely at least 1 mcarsebert Townie on the jury.
@@generousbitcoinbillionaire alot to got through are you kidding me? I watched every day - not knowing but very little about this case - this was an ish show - I have seen more trial with more substance that had verdicts back in less than one day! It all just seems so fishy to me especially with those FOUR showed up and everything that happened after - when has a JUROR asked to go home at 4pm when it was only 9am? How did they know they wouldn't come to a verdict?
@@CG-cg9jythey asked at 9 because they had something they had to do.
Good content but I got to say Lita you look like you're in a hospital waiting room or an infusion room?
With a cat cruising around, I think not!
Did the bearded gentleman say it’s impossible? That wasn’t said and if it was then you must take into account that they had 1/3 of the evidence. I’m sure you professionals would know that you cannot judge anything without all the facts and evidence. What I would say is it’s impossible to plant those tail light pieces from Karen’s car unless you believe in time machines so which one do you believe? A Time Machine or a highly qualified person who said it isn’t possible without having all the evidence? Curious on his answer. Time Machine I would say is 100% impossible. The other is not.
Only a time machine puts her at the scene at 1245 and back at John's at 1236. Impossible.
You know Proctor had John's clothes until March right? Why would he keep the clothes that long. And you know that there were 2 other mens' DNA on his clothes and was not tested. Everyone in that house should have been tested but nope that would have spoiled the entire conspiring to convict KR.
I would say either crawl back in your mcarsebert hole or actually watch the trial.
@@generousbitcoinbillionaireSo because someone made a possible mistake with time lines and then corrected it in closing means what ? She’s guilty. She will siesta be guilty and a killer no matter what the result. Watch the closing as that’s clear as day. Jackson on the other hand went around in a big fat circle and came back around with nothing.
@@generousbitcoinbillionaireHey. Pull your head man. I’m as far away for Boston as you could imagine. I live in Australia and have an opinion. You got that ? Debate is fine. Agree to disagree is fine. Ridiculous Childish comments and put downs are not. So pull up your language or maybe it’s best to say nothing at all.
🐢Boy still awaiting your invite, Joel. Now, after the goons assaulted him last Sunday (see videos), there will be two A&B charges against the other side. Also, have you watched Garret Wing; Attack Dog Bite Trainer? *Dig in guys; so many lies from CW side & they know it!
If it’s unfortunately a hung jury, does anyone know how long the state has whether to retry the case?
What are these medical conditions they speak about ?
Supposedly Karen Reed has MS (multiple sclerosis). And an advanced case of Crohn's disease
ANALYZING ALAN JACKSON'S CLOSING... CONSPIRACY VS. REASONABLE DOUBT...DID ALAN LOSE THE JURY ARGUING CONSPIRACY.?... TY..👏👏
Nope
No.
No, he didn't. Any reasonable juror would think conspiracy when there's a sizeable timeline of sallyport flipped/inverted video unaccounted for. The Commonwealth timeline was never solid.
@@meavey38 HE DEFINITELY ARGUED COVER-UP VS. SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE.. 🏛️
No way!
Now the appeal and a governor's pardon....
Joel, I think you have been reasonable. Some of your guests, maybe not (Tim is too defense-biased). Nonetheless, I'm glad to hear you refute your attackers. Your show, your right to a reasonable conclusion.
Lally’s pathetic closing tells all! He lied during that, too! (DNA lies!)
31:02 US Soccer vs Panama is a much better option. I also agree the show Your Honor is a very interesting show.
It wouldn't take anywhere close to 15 hours if they all agreed or were close to agreeing - that Karen Read is not guilty on ALL charges. They take a quick poll 1st thing and go from there. Karen's not walking free, or at best as one guest said "Hung Jury"
Possibly. .then the opportunity for defense to bring forth the footage if they let it in...defense held some for that chance. ..these folks never proved manner of death...in least just not investigated by protocol..
@@marymckay7154 Maybe the judge would allow it in if there is a re-trial but that the defense held something back in case there ever was a re-trial makes no sense. You try to win the case. You don't say let's hold somethings back in case we have another trial because by holding things back you can simply lose the case and have no re-trial at all. All cases are put forth to win now.
The judge told them they should not do a straw poll first.
@@DebraLuttrell-qx2il And? Juries can disregard the law and all evidence, any instruction by the Judge to render a verdict. Plus let's say it's just you and me as jurors. We don't do a straw poll. But we can now discuss the case. And I say "do you think she is guilty or not?" and you say "No." and I say "I agree." didn't we just do a straw poll, without doing one? lol. How do they come to a verdict if they don't know which way each juror is leaning? The straw poll happened regardless.
I feel she SHOULD be found NG but I have seen how the courtroom is run, how the State Police does business from this trial and the shenanigans in that town….I don’t trust they will do the right thing…. I LOVE LegalBytes!
They are taking longer because because jury don’t agree between them
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I believe that the Judge became to friendly with the Jurors. We may be shocked by the results.
Disappointed in yoinTim. So many professionals heard her say I hit him. Yeah the investigation was super lacking. She has bug bucks for a great team and money bought experts
Did anyone see KR take a sip of her drinks? I didn't.
She kept filling the tall glass up with shots. Doesn't count unless you drink it
Why would she do that
@@debranagrocki4952 To appear to participate in the drinking - to be one of the group. She foolishly wanted to be part of this "group of friends" (Jennifer McCabe has no conception of friendship other than as a functional thing)
@@user-yg2si8lo1x Too old and successful to fake drinking to be one of the group wouldn’t one say
During girls weekends with my chica’s in North Central Wisconsin I couldn’t keep up with them. Most of the bartenders knew if they started ordering shots of Patron that mine needed to be shots of water. I’m a lightweight
@@debranagrocki4952 bc someone keeps buying her drinks and she doesn't want it. She has crohns, MS and a brain tumor. She likely cannot drink alot
Im still waiting for someone to explain if the albert family or Higgins or colin did this why would they not hid hes body at the back of house where the woods are why on there own garden it doesn't make sense
First I thought KR was guity but the prosecution couldn't prove it but I have changed my mind.
??? If she is found guilty will she have to go straight to jail or will she be allowed to wait for her appeal?
Straight to jail. That can’t happen, this woman is innocent